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My two cents are: Has the snipper said anything? Really? I mean I saw the pinchy face and heard the "hunt them down" crap. But has the guy said anything yet or is he just still trying to figure out which way the toilet water spins north of the mason-dixon line????
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 15, 2001 at 18:16:02 (EDT)

My two cents are: Where is Cheney?
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 15, 2001 at 17:29:33 (EDT)

My two cents are: Look, I support Snippy and his administration because, by hook and crook, they're what we have. The fact is, Snip can't do much himself. He's a faceman and always was. There are better facemen, for sure, guys who could say the right words without a frat-rat smirk on their faces. Snip just does not instill any confidence in anyone. The definiton of Empty Suit. His henchmen, likewise, come across as nothings, except for maybe Powell. The hope is they will let Powell back in the loop. This Rice broad is of no use at all unless the Cold War starts up again. Cheney never was worth shit and, besides, he'll be dead soon.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 15, 2001 at 16:55:46 (EDT)

My two cents are: I especially love how Snippy told Giuliani that this was a sad day for the Tri-State Area. Made it sound like a bad weather day in Pinched Loaf, Nebraska. Snip's a regular FDR, who once said, "Today is a day that will live in infamy. The Greater Metropolitan Honolulu Area was inconvenienced the bad will of the Japanese."
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 15, 2001 at 15:19:18 (EDT)

My two cents are: The flag was at half-mast as we sang the Star Spangled Banner today. A couple of hundred of us looking for something we couldn�t find. I have never seen two symbols clash so violently. The singing of a national anthem. In front of a a half-masted flag. I asked myself a lot of questions then and the last couple of days. Why are we hated like this? Who are these people? And where did they get the money? The money was probably the most interesting question once I thought about it. The money came from the U.S. consumption of oil. From oil wells leased by the likes of Exxon, and Texaco, and other multinationals I suppose. Paying vast sums of money to the arab world in royalties that support not only honest starving nations but also the errant bin Laden�s and Kuwaiti and other Sheiks of the world enfant�s terrible.. It was our own money, our own kapitalism, our own jets, and our own very bodies and the fruits of that very oil that were turned into weapons against us. By our own kapitalism. Wrought by our own hand.
HaHaHa <The H-Man Lives!!!!!!>
Belly , of The Beast - Friday, September 14, 2001 at 18:12:30 (EDT)

My two cents are: Vengeance is mine, sayeth Junior. Vengeance is mine, sayeth Osama.
vengeance is whose?
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 17:41:57 (EDT)

My two cents are: Perhaps some of us were so blinded by Cintoons penis that we didn't see bin Laden's cumming.
HaHaHaHaHaHah <The H-Man Lives.>
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 17:15:16 (EDT)

My two cents are: I say we neutralize each and every one of the terrorists like crynic says. They wouldn't be barbaric enough to use biological weapons on us, would they?
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 14:13:05 (EDT)

My two cents are: I'd love to stay kiddies, but even we capitalist bastards need to have some fun. Have a great weekend.
the crynic
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 13:56:10 (EDT)

My two cents are: Anon, I thought you were gonna miss toasting France. Thorough, as always.
the crynic
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 13:52:59 (EDT)

My two cents are: The only thing left to discuss is whether Snippy is the right man to do it, or should we wait another three years. Maybe next time the Supreme Court will appoint some sort of bounty-hunter.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 13:52:55 (EDT)

My two cents are: I've never seen Braveheart so I can't comment, but I doubt I'd think it was "so great" when people were losing their heads. With or without a blow job, I'd sleep much better knowing OBL and other extremists had been neutralized. Wouldn't you?
the crynic
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 13:49:21 (EDT)

My two cents are: On the other hand, it has always been possible to discipline people who go around chopping heads off. You just got to be cool about it and not think you can do it by dropping stuff from the sky. This bin Laden crowd has to have a place to operate from, so all we have to do is close down the Sudan, Syria, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, maybe Iran, Libya, and China, Oman, Turks and Caicos, parts of Egypt, and France. Once that is done, they can run but they can't hide.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 13:45:41 (EDT)

My two cents are: Fine, crynic, go bomb the shit out of Afghanistan and dance in the streets like those idiot Palestinians, get your blow job and sleep like a baby, thinking that the world is terrorism-free and see where it gets you. Isn't the point of history to learn it so we're not doomed to repeat it? We've already been there and done that with the underestimating the enemy shit. You know, the reason why they've been this successful is because of their dedication and their denial of this individuality notion we seem to be crippled by. They'll sacrifice their lives for the good of their people, just like Braveheart. We thought it was so great when Braveheart was chopping folks' heads off, but you spit on these people who are doing the exact same thing?
Whatever
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 13:37:19 (EDT)

My two cents are: What the hell is he talking about, spin? Yo, the crynic, it's not exactly the liberal line that the Palestinians are right but ought to be napalmed anyway for break-dancing in the streets. You may be getting confused by recent events, as evidenced by your brutal lashing out against George the First. You stick with maritime policy and let Whatever handle the middle east question.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 13:28:26 (EDT)

My two cents are: The airlines didn't take Osama bin Laden seriously until he grabbed half the flights to the coast. I'd watch this crynic character. Beneath the solicitous exterior and the gruff persona may lie a dangerous hulk of mean wind. The man is like a Chinese box puzzle, and there's no telling what he'll pull next. He may be on every watch list in Boston.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 13:24:42 (EDT)

My two cents are: . . .It's his kind of thinking that will have us suffer another attack . Whatever Friday, September 14, 2001 at 12:58:20 (EDT) - - - Excellent spin. You're learning. If doggie dogg and Mother E were still around, you would be a bona fide spinmeister in a matter of months. Keep up the good work.
the crynic
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 13:24:18 (EDT)

My two cents are: Denial noted. No one has taken the crynic seriously around here since his pi�ata party.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 13:21:06 (EDT)

My two cents are: I think Harlan works on a hot-shot crew somewhere in Nevada or Utah. He's probably still on wildland fires, of which there are plenty if only the liberal media would tell us about them. Those guys don't have much training in building fires or scraping meat-stains off rubble. He's OK unless he got burned up in a dead-end arroyo somewhere.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 13:18:30 (EDT)

My two cents are: I hope to *o* Harlan St. Wolf is okay.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 13:04:57 (EDT)

My two cents are: Please, you think I'm listening to the crynic's rants about turning Afghanistan into a crater, which will solve all our problems and eradicate world terrorism in one fell swoop? They guy didn't even know that the nips have peeped in the past 50 years. It's his kind of thinking that will have us suffer another attack. These people are like roaches, for Christ sake!
Whatever
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 12:58:20 (EDT)

My two cents are: decapitated roosters . . . I once played a round of golf with a Japanese guy in Hawaii. It was about 90 degrees and high high humidity that day. He was totally dressed in black. Black hat, black shirt, black LONG pants, black socks, and black shoes. He would hit the ball, grab a club, and run to his ball. Shot after shot - for over four hours. Not sure he ever sat in the cart. At the 19th hole, he had four Jack Daniels and coke and fell down on the floor unconscious. Funny guy. /// Best car 1958 MGA - Worst car 1958 MGA.
the crynic
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 12:53:52 (EDT)

My two cents are: Like to stick around and explain everything in Pete's absence. But I got to go bleed a Jewess.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 12:52:48 (EDT)

My two cents are: The Chrysler 600 maintained its quality through the '80's.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 12:50:49 (EDT)

My two cents are: Anonymous, I understand the counselors put in place for the WTC families also deal with misguided anger. Take a chill pill, dude./// But gotta admit, the "cloak of all-knowingness" was pretty funny.
the crynic
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 12:47:44 (EDT)

My two cents are: Worst vehicle I ever had was a Volvo. Best was a '68 Olds Vista-Cruiser.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 12:44:38 (EDT)

My two cents are: Yes, but you got to admit the Nip had us going for a while, running around like decapitated roosters setting up quality circle programs and empowering the peons. That thing about Detroit vehicles being worthless was a myth if you knew enough to stick with something simple, like a C-10 Chevy pick-up with a flathead six and three on the tree.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 12:42:55 (EDT)

My two cents are: Uh-oh, the crynic is going to try on his cloak of all-knowingness again. Poor little misguided filly. Poor little uninstructed Negress. Come under my hairy wing, dear. Watch out for this guy, Whatever. Underneath that solicitous exterior lies a gruff sailor-man with a vague idea that the Constitution says he deserves everything he can steal and a syphillitic maiden in every port.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 12:39:35 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sorry Meat, I forgot how well the Japs did in their speculative real estate on Hawaii. Bought up all the good hotels and resorts at top dollar and couldn't unload them at 30 cents on the dollar. My bad. All the while, they were building cars that actually worked. Guess that had nothing to do with Detroit finally getting off their lazy union laden collective ass and put out a decent product.
the crynic
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 12:37:53 (EDT)

My two cents are: Interesting, you use the word misguided. Hmmmm....
the crynic
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 12:32:40 (EDT)

My two cents are: Gotcha.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 12:17:43 (EDT)

My two cents are: Just a figure of speech, anonymous. Change it to once the Jewess starts bleeding.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 12:15:34 (EDT)

My two cents are: What good is war if you can't rape the grieving wives?
Ghengis Khan
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 12:14:29 (EDT)

My two cents are: Bleeding?
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 12:14:23 (EDT)

My two cents are: Who knows? I imagine most people stop taking the damn things once they start bleeding.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 12:13:19 (EDT)

My two cents are: You got that wrong, anonymous. The World Trade Center was swarming with Republicans. Two or three hundred times the Bush margin of counted votes in Florida, at least. It's his only possible sympathy ploy if he is ever brought to trial before the international court for ordering this.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 12:12:18 (EDT)

My two cents are: But that REM sleep is better than a dozen consummated rapes, eh?
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 12:10:21 (EDT)

My two cents are: If they'd just give everyone a half-bottle of Trazodone, this thing would clear itself up a lot quicker. It would also probably cut the incidence of consummated rapes, in Afghanistan or elsewhere, if my experience is any clue.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 12:08:50 (EDT)

My two cents are: If it's any comfort to you, Glint, once the body count is complete, I believe you'll find that the overwhelming majority of the dead were pro-choice. In addition, many of the set up pig cunts actually murdered their own children before the children were even born. With any luck, a handful of actual abortionists got vaporized. Add to this the fact that at least 75% of the dead once defended the indefensible Clinton and many of the dead men received sexual favors, including blowjobs from their secretaries and interns. Finally, you can assume most of the dead were registered Demonrats. Where's the tragedy?
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 12:06:36 (EDT)

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Nanny-state or prudent planning? You decide.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 12:05:39 (EDT)

My two cents are: Glint is just blowing hot air. The only bombs he drops have pinch-marks in the back instead of fins. This is a guy who sits behind a telescope every clear night goggling at the pretty colors. Sure, if you rile him up he might drive his lawn-mower over your zucchini, or look up the tresspass laws, but that's about as far as it goes. Shit, the man is just some sort of webmaster-equivalent at some outfit that deals in paper widgets. Give him a break. He's probably left half a dozen abortions behind that he never heard about, if you believe his stories.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 12:02:11 (EDT)

My two cents are: Haven't heard a peep from the nips in fifty years? Jeez, the crynic, they practically destroyed our system of golf as we know it in the 1980's! They screwed up Rockefeller Center and Warner Bros. and next they're going to buy all the ski resorts. If we'd left them to run around the western Pacific in their tin ships and plywood airplanes we never would have got snarled up in Viet Nam or Korea. The Soviet Union would have blown its wad twenty years earlier worrying about them. Mao Tse-Tung would be nothing but a lamp-shade. We'd all be driving Japanese pick-up trucks and playing Japanese video games and playing on Japanese golf-courses.
House of Meat
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 11:54:57 (EDT)

My two cents are: And you, Glint, with this bombing the abortion doctors, you gotta stop that shit too.
Whatever
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 11:51:02 (EDT)

My two cents are: crynic, that's the same kind of thinking that has us here in the first place. We did bring this shit on ourselves. No one's saying not to bomb the shit out of Afghanistan, kind of like blowing up a rat's nest, but do realize that they are not evil incarnate, just misguided beyond the point of no return. We need to check ourselves, hell, we already wrecked ourselves.
Whatever
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 11:50:11 (EDT)

My two cents are: Up in the mountains I not only have a safe haven from the round-ups, I have a forty-eight star American flag. I can fly the flag in solidarity with everybody but Alaska and Hawaii. I'll paint in a star for Alaska and leave Hawaii as a place to keep the Arab-Americans. They can walk on the beaches in their curly-pointed shoes and feel right at home.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 11:48:24 (EDT)

My two cents are: I still have two cars. Of course they aren't Mercedes, but then I'm not stranded in Nairobi with a bad case of the clap, either.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 11:45:44 (EDT)

My two cents are: Of course, they claim to have said they wouldn't touch the lock-boxes unless there was a war or a recession. Now that we have a fluke war and a possible recession everything is fair game except the tax cut.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 11:44:20 (EDT)

My two cents are: This country never needed overweight dyslexic morons any more than we needed Arabs. The crynic and I are for rounding them all up together under the Texas A&M bonfire and throwing in a match.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 11:42:35 (EDT)

My two cents are: We need guys like Pete now. Think of how many paralegals we lost in the towers.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 11:40:51 (EDT)

My two cents are: I gave my chrome pony to my kid. Driving the flivver. Heading out for the mountains in a little while. Best to hunker down in the first few days of World War II. Back when they have all the liberals rounded up behind wire, and they've taken back the $300.00 to save the inheritance tax cut. Funny thing, they were bitching that the inheritance tax was wrong because it was instituted during WWII and we weren't in any wars now.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 11:39:54 (EDT)

My two cents are: I seriously doubt the authorities will allow Pete to re-enter this country. Not now, not after this.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 11:12:02 (EDT)

My two cents are: Yeah, to think I coulda had a Saturn.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 11:10:19 (EDT)

My two cents are: Wait til the Snipster lays the $5.00/gallon gas on you. Should have bought the small KIA.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 11:07:04 (EDT)

My two cents are: All this had to happen right after I bought the new 5-speed Mustang. Here I am trying to have fun, speeding around in this racing green beauty, and the fucking rag heads lay this huge bummer on me.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 10:51:02 (EDT)

My two cents are: Hey, Anonymous, it's just the real crynic coming out. Recent events have caused him to break character. Don't expect to see that gruff, hard-ass troglodyte he was portraying. Things have changed.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 10:39:54 (EDT)

My two cents are: Bring it on? You need to pinch a loaf already?
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 10:38:26 (EDT)

My two cents are: Unlike you liberal twits, I tell it like it is. Don't need a spin doctor when right is on your side. You'll really like this one. I'm pro choice. And we need more gun control. Geez, I'm starting to sound you socialist wingnuts. Bring it on.
the crynic
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 10:27:23 (EDT)

My two cents are: To repeat, Pee Wee Herman could avoid WWIII in this situation, so Snippy just might do it. Come on, folks, these are just a few rug-pilots who got lucky. They tried to blow the place up from the bottom and found out it didn't work, so they looked around to see where we were weak and spotted the airports. What Snippy is doing is building it up into a "war" so he can bust Social Security, something the GOP has been dreaming about for sixty-five years. Tell me when you hear about the tax cut being rescinded to pay for all the new spooks and the smart bombs and the candle-light vigil coordination.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 10:23:24 (EDT)

My two cents are: All right, who is parodying the crynic?
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 10:18:29 (EDT)

My two cents are: Crynic, let's stick to the script and assigned roles. You shouldn't be saying George Sr. fucked up. That's our job.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 10:18:09 (EDT)

My two cents are: That suspect list looks like ethnic profiling to me. When are we going to learn to get past these stereotypes?
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 10:17:36 (EDT)

My two cents are: I agree with Glint. If the terrorists really care about innocent lives being spared, they should target the individuals who run the Amerikan war machine and leave the good people alone.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 10:16:35 (EDT)

My two cents are: With the except for abortion docs in the 'hood of course.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 10:02:30 (EDT)

My two cents are: See, Anonymous@09:52:14makes the same mistake. Equating extremism to a religious group. If you really want to stop killing innocent life, you'll snipe a few abortion Doctors at work, in their cars, or at home.
Glint
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 09:57:07 (EDT)

My two cents are: Tim McVeigh won't be killing anyone anytime soon, now will he?
the crynic
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 09:54:15 (EDT)

My two cents are: The mistake G Bush Sr. made, in hindsight, was kow towing to the United Nations. G Bush Sr. needs to keep the power within NATO and the allies. Learn from the past and keep the United Nations from hamstringing us again. They might even be on our side if we pay some back dues, but don't ask them what they think we should do.
Glint
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 09:54:10 (EDT)

My two cents are: I say we start with the extremist Christers who bomb clinics in this great land. The War on Terrorism begins at home. Right, General crynic?
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 09:52:14 (EDT)

My two cents are: Ted apparently loved Grape Nuts
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 09:43:18 (EDT)

My two cents are: The suspected hijackers aboard American Airlines Flight 11, which hit the north tower of the World Trade Center, were Walid Al Shehri, Wail Alsheri aka Waleed Alsheri, Mohammad Atta, Aabdul Alomari and Satam Sugami. Aboard United Airlines Flight 175, which hit the south tower of the World Trade Center, the suspected hijackers were Marawn Alshehhi, Fayez Ahmed, Mohald Alshehri, Hamza Al Ghamdi and Ahmed Al Ghamdi. Those believed to be the hijackers aboard American Airlines Flight 77, which hit the Pentagon, were Khalid Almihdhar, Majed Moqued, Nawaf Al Hazmi and Salem Al Hazmi. The suspected hijackers aboard United Airlines Flight 93, which crashed in rural Pennsylvania, were Ahmed Al Haznawi, Ahmed Alnami, Ziad Jarrah and Saeed Alghamdi.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 09:41:20 (EDT)

My two cents are: Who did Ted Kazinsky love?
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 09:40:20 (EDT)

My two cents are: Self-reflect and analyze our behavior? Bullshit! Let's spend some of the $70 billion, find these assholes, and send them to never never land asap. It's no secret that George Sr. f**ked up when he didn't take Saddam out. Hell, he could have easily dusted off a few of the (at that time) splinter groups as well. Let's not forget after we blew the shit out of Japan, we haven't heard a peep from the nips in 50 years./// Agreed, there will be considerable collateral damage, but the little buggers dancing in the streets in Palestine this week ARE the next generation of fanatic thugs. Don't give them the chance to breed their extremist priorities.
the crynic
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 09:37:57 (EDT)

My two cents are: Dudes, if Shrubbie and his cohorts can possibly avoid WWIII by convincing the zealots that America isn't the bastien of evil, he's got my vote for the next 40 years.
Whatever
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 09:19:56 (EDT)

My two cents are: Y'all heard how the Taliban is now stating that bin Laden is not to blame, while simultaneously running to their bunkers hidden beneath the sand dunes? I think we need to lay a couple of missiles down there quickly before they bury themselves too deep in the sand for the missiles to reach.
Whatever
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 09:17:56 (EDT)

My two cents are: Unless there's some way we can convince them that America and capitalism is not the absolute evil. Whoever can accomplish that really would be a superhero.
Whatever
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 09:16:08 (EDT)

My two cents are: Well, if they do see America as the absolute evil, which I completely can see and don't exactly blame them for, and they won't rest until America is toppled and every woman is wearing a black shroud in 100 degree weather and walking two steps behind every man, the only solution is total annihilation. Shee-it, they're not stopping until we're totally annihilated, so, we just gotta take 'em out.
Whatever
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 09:14:58 (EDT)

My two cents are: Obviously, this shit is going to revamp Hollywood as well. I mean, if Tuesday taught us nothing, it taught us that there are no superheroes. Movies and shows about superheroes seem, well, in poor taste. Movies about sieges, destruction and the like seem in poor taste. One movie we should really be drawing from would be "The Siege," with Denzel and Annette Benning and Bruce Willis. The situation was pretty much the same, and what ended up happening is that Arabs were corralled into the stadium like dogs, which they realized was wrong. We can't blame all Arab people for the acts of zealots, point blank.
Whatever
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 09:12:25 (EDT)

My two cents are: Binnie is also angry because there are American troops stationed near Mecca and Medina. These guys see the USA as absolute evil. They want an Islamic caliphate from sea to shining sea like in the old days. The Russians taught them how to not care that much about dying. Snip thinks somebody has declared war on them and he said victory twice, to make sure everybody understands that the good guys are going to win, like in Viet Nam.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 09:08:51 (EDT)

My two cents are: It's just important for us to self-reflect. We must realize that we've done the Arabs and Palestinians like we've done everyone else in history: Blacks, Native Americans, etc. It just came to a point at which we pissed off the wrong minority. We have got to analyze our own behavior and realize that, in a small way, we did, in fact, bring this on ourselves.
Whatever
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 09:06:21 (EDT)

My two cents are: Plus, if this were a pure act of evil, there would have been no point to it. As it stands, the point was to hurt America the way these people feel they have been hurt. Tim McVeigh was more evil than these guys, because they didn't kill their own countrymen, at least, not those who weren't completely willing to die.
Whatever
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 09:02:53 (EDT)

My two cents are: I'm sure BJ'll keep his hands to himself. They hate America because they love the sacred land they believe America defiled, and they love the people they believe America has stepped on. Their beliefs are too extreme for the mainstream, hence, he was exiled. Besides, hate can't exist without love. You can't hate something or someone who hasn't violated someone or something you love.
Whatever
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 08:59:14 (EDT)

My two cents are: I'll say a couple of things based on my perspective. First, assumming Bin Ladin & Co. are involved, they are not doing this out of love of country. Bin Ladan's country exiled him and there's no love lost. No, he has stated his hatred for America ever since Saudi served as a staging area to dislodge Sadam's prick out of Kuwait's ass. He's declared one of those death warrants (like the Iatola did against Salmon Rusdie) ordering Arabs to kill American citizens. Secondly, I wish the media would stop referring to these organizations as "Islamic extremist groups." Their beliefs and actions seem to run counter to the teachings of Islam and every other "civilized" religion. <≫ Since the bomb threat sent me home I'm watching the memorial service. Clinton and a strangely grinning Chelsea just came in. BJ sat down next to Barbara Bush. He'd better keep his hands to himself.
Glint
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 08:56:14 (EDT)

My two cents are: ``Now that war has been declared, we will lead the world to victory,'' President George W Bush
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 08:38:18 (EDT)

My two cents are: Stop that. This isn't an Islamic attack, it's the attack of zealots.
Whatever
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 08:34:44 (EDT)

My two cents are: I just feel for Shrubbie, you know? He looks like he hasn't had a bite to eat since this whole thing happened.
Whatever
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 08:33:54 (EDT)

My two cents are: A passenger on one of the hijacked planes made a cell phone call from the plane's lavatory to the customer service department at United Airlines. He complained about a passenger, who later turned out to be one of the hijackers, who had been seen washing his feet in the sink with his socks on. The passenger was reported saying that when he entered the bathroom and turned around to close the door, his pants brushed up against the sink producing a wet spot on the front of his pants. This was caused by water that had been splashed onto the counter top. The passenger then bitterly complained about the hand soap near his zipper and what people might think just before the phone line went dead.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 08:33:07 (EDT)

My two cents are: I've got to bounce, as they say. We're doing a mosque drive-by and I get to heave one of the bricks.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 08:32:49 (EDT)

My two cents are: They cancelled the Madonna concert and the Big 10 football games. What makes anyone think they're going to allow people to mosh in the pit? The Black Sheep people are all at home writing patriotic war songs to inspire the troops, most of whom are people of color and like to hear a little back-beat instead of Sousa marches and tubas.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 08:31:20 (EDT)

My two cents are: No football until next week, the mere notion of which has probably whooped them up into a gun-shooting raghead-ass-kicking frenzy. Just where we want them.
Whatever
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 08:28:43 (EDT)

My two cents are: Yo, I'll stay back and harvest the corn and the pumpkins, they can go kick ass or get their asses kicked.
Whatever
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 08:27:28 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sure they'd go, if only it wasn't the start of the new TV season and football. Maybe if they all got free satellite mini-TV's to watch in the sniper nests.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 08:27:13 (EDT)

My two cents are: Hell, I don't even know if they can even open the clubs. I tried to go to a show last night. This group Black Sheep, who haven't put out a mainstream album in 10 years, but the one they did put out is truly a classic, and this kid from my job manages a group that was opening up for Black Sheep. I was there for an hour and a half when they cancelled it. I don't think folks are trying to leave their houses.
Whatever
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 08:26:29 (EDT)

My two cents are: We should hold a few back to harvest the corn and the pumpkins.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 08:23:50 (EDT)

My two cents are: That's the other surreal part. A state trooper rolled right on me as I was on the highway, doing a good 65 in a 40 or 35. I got scared, and practically smacked into the car in front of me, trying to switch to the center lane. The state trooper just kept rolling. The same thing happened, except it was a local policeperson. No tickets being handed out at all.
Whatever
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 08:23:43 (EDT)

My two cents are: The government has decreed that tonight is the night of candle-light vigils. No getting it on in the 'hood. Spend the five bucks on candles, if there are any left.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 08:22:51 (EDT)

My two cents are: NO DOUBT!!! Let's send all the gun nut paramilitary heartland yahoos to the dunes to kick ass! The best part is I'm sure they'd go. I have half a mind to go myself, and I can't even shoot a gun, much less these guys.
Whatever
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 08:21:43 (EDT)

My two cents are: Firemen are OK, anonymous. They wear slick hats and give out toys to poor children on Christmas. The ones we despise are the ones handing out unemployment checks. And cops. Cops are always trying to give you speeding tickets.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 08:20:45 (EDT)

My two cents are: Anyway, if I decide to go out tonight and release some tension, I'm going to the 'hood. Ordinarily, we wouldn't be trying to go to the 'hood, because something is almost always jumping off in the 'hood, and you can't just have a peaceful time. I heard on the radio this morning an advertisement, where the guy said, all these people want you to dress up and leave the 'hood and spend your money. Don't do that. Stay in the 'hood, pay $5, no dress code, and come get your party on. Now, y'all know like I know that the terrorists know better than to target a bunch of Black people in the 'hood. So, I'm thinking that the 'hood is the safest place to be right about now. No one's going to try anything anytime soon. It's so crazy, driving through Boston, ever since the event, I haven't heard one horn blaring. Ordinarily, you can't even hear the radio, going through South Station. No one talks on the train either. We're all devastated.
Whatever
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 08:19:06 (EDT)

My two cents are: As I understand it, this outfit is a little different from your normal run of Arabs, even of Palestinians. They are Arabs who went to Afghanistan to help in the war against Russia, and they got all fucked up by it. Maybe a few thousand of them, with a few million sympathizers about as effective as someone like Pete, and no threat. Napalm probably isn't the answer. What is called for is a bunch of snipers like Jeremiah, enough to take out the core group. We should parachute the entire Missouri chapter of the NRA into central Asia and see how they do. It just might solve the problem. Maybe not.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 08:17:27 (EDT)

My two cents are: Morning, Glint. Yeah, what's up with all this "reporting?" Actually, I think this is all part of a vast media conspiracy, the likes of which Bill and Hillary Clinton have never seen. I'd like to think that they're using the media to plant stories to divert attention, but then again, when Orrin Hatch is oh-so-casually dropping military secrets over the airwaves at a time when no one has the facts straight, I can't imagine how organized of a conspiracy this could be.
Whatever
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 08:13:56 (EDT)

My two cents are: You talked to a fireman? One of those government employees? Was he leaning on his Pulaski?
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 08:13:08 (EDT)

My two cents are: Oh, now I remember what I was going to say. Senior Bush was in Boston, telling people how these "cowards...kill out of hate." Now, we all know about this calling them cowards bit. It's like getting smacked by the bully in the playground, you have to call him a punk/pussy/sissy in order to save face, but this is no playground and we're not 8 years old. But "killing out of hate?" Why is Senior Bush giving people erroneous information? They kill out of love. They kill because they love their people, and we continuously shit and step all over them, and defile their sacred land. They're just like Native Americans, in terms of their plight, but in terms of their desire for survival and the advancement of their people, they're like roaches. We could bomb the shit out of them until the cows come home and they'll still be there. They'll be there after every last one of our national monuments are reduced to rubble. The only thing I've even seen actually get rid of roaches, at least for a long period of time, is tearing down the building and rebuilding, or having the exterminator come in and blast the whole area once a month for a year.
Whatever
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 08:10:23 (EDT)

My two cents are: Missed deadlines are no longer excusable, for any reason. Don't you know there's a war on, soldier? Loose lips sink ships, there, flapping gums guide the 737's right into the boiler room. Let's have less nattering about where and when the bomb threats clear the buildings. The enemy is listening.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 08:10:16 (EDT)

My two cents are: Good morning. At last count client is confirming one fatality involving an employee abord one jet that collided with the WTC and up to 15 others missing. This morning I pulled into client's parking lot about 45 seconds ahead of the fire engines. People were standing in the parking lot but nobody seemed to know what was happening. I approached a fireman on foot who was swinging around the corner of the building. He said that they wanted to clear the building and parking lot until they could determine whether there was a bomb. I hope it's not too late to resume to working on defense contracts. In hindsight it seems as if it was safer than being near the front line in the jihad against capitalism. Not that today's event has anything to do with the others. Certainly the work of a prankster or perhaps an employee on the verge of missing deadline.
Glint
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 08:07:12 (EDT)

My two cents are: Of course Gore would have done better. Pee Wee Herman would have done better. That famous Bush concern for victims is the result of electrical-shock training. It's about the same as his claim that he likes to talk to his cows. This is a guy who ordered a bunch of Cubans dressed up like Arabs to kill tens of thousands of people. Sure, he was only following orders himself, but so was Eichmann.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 08:03:02 (EDT)

My two cents are: A guy in my organization, at an office about 300 miles from here, was in the airplane headed for San Francisco. They had an "all hands" meeting to break the news, but I missed it and slipped out for a long lunch. The good news is that I can get free grief counseling if I need it.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 07:56:14 (EDT)

My two cents are: You guys think that Gore would have handled this better? I tend to believe so. I'm sure Gore would be crying in press conferences, showing his human side, and making us all realize that he's not such a bad guy after all, just like Snippy. However; UNLIKE Snippy, he probably wouldn't have alienated already shell-shocked people by addressing an American city as "your part of the world," and has enough experience in Washington to have already sent a couple of scuds over and laid that damn place out by now.
Whatever
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 07:53:56 (EDT)

My two cents are: Snippy, and the other hand, is an old F-104 pilot just like President Harrison Ford and the president who shot down the flying saucers after Randy Quaid figured out how to do it. I don't know why anybody doubts a guy like that, even if he did miss his last year of training after he scored the three keys of cocaine.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 07:52:38 (EDT)

My two cents are: OK, I've been watching the news and crying all morning. I cried when they showed the CEO of the bonds-trading company who lost 700 employees. My heart broke when they told that woman, who's been waiting at the Pentagon since Tuesday for her husband, to leave, because it's now a recovery mission. I'm proud of Snippy, he's been holding it down remarkably well, seeing as how we all know him to be a sniveling simp. I didn't appreciate how he called New York "YOUR part of the country," when talking to Giuliani and Pataki, as if New York is some faceless burg in the remotest part of the squarest state with no natural resources. What was up with that? He did, however, show that he's a caring, loving person who's been deeply traumatized, as we all have. I saw those same Pakistani people walking to work this morning, the ones that I stared down the day before. Last night, they were reporting that, in my very neighborhood, these people have been threatened, their stores vandalized, and have been told to get their pig non-religion out of "our" country. Knowing that this is not an Islamic act, but the act of religious zealots, not unlike our paramilitary friends out in the woods, I realized that blaming Muslims for this problem would be like Christians being blamed for the act of one crazed paramilitary group who decided to go to Jerusalem and bomb the Dome of the Rock, which is among the most holy of Islamic places. Of course, that wouldn't happen, because Israelis aren't as fat and lazy and complacent as we are, but that's beside the point. I smiled at the guy and told him to keep his head up.
Whatever
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 07:51:01 (EDT)

My two cents are: He would tell nostalgic stories about his memory of jumping out of the helicopter onto the blimp and letting the air out it with his Boy Scout knife.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 07:48:36 (EDT)

My two cents are: Bullshit. Reagan would have got the whole thing confused with the movies, and wasted everyone's time ordering them to throw up blimp defenses around the Super Bowl.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 07:30:40 (EDT)

My two cents are: Reagan would have handled this just fine, thank you. He would have tossed off an old WC Fields joke about Philly, and made the country laugh through its tested resolve.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 07:29:35 (EDT)

My two cents are: At least Snippy relies on credible evidence. Reagan never got past astrology.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 07:28:18 (EDT)

My two cents are: A man who doesn't run like a jack-rabbit upon receipt of credible evidence has substituted vainglory for prudence.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 07:27:35 (EDT)

My two cents are: Typical socialist liar. Attorney General Ashcroft himself said there was "credible evidence" that the bad guys were targeting Air Force One. Somebody phoned it in. The facts that he had an Arab accent and the nuclear missile codes are what made it credible.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 07:26:10 (EDT)

My two cents are: Yea, though I pass through the valley of the shadow of death I shall fear no evil, for I am zig-zagging across the backbone of this great nation toward Fortress Nebraska like a jackrabbit through a brushfield heading toward his hole.
run now, make up excuse later
- Friday, September 14, 2001 at 06:19:05 (EDT)

My two cents are: I AM JEREMIAH THE MISSOURI PUKE! MY NAME IS THE DEACON, BUT SOME CALL ME ASS-FACE. I SIT ON A BALE OF HAY AND SCRATCH MY RECTUM WITH A PENCIL, HOPING THAT NOBODY WILL NOTICE. I STAND GUARD OVER MY GUNSHED BUT NOBODY EVER COMES TO STEAL WHAT IS NOT INSIDE TO BEGIN WITH. I AM AS UGLY AS A LEBANESE PIMP AND TWICE AS DUMB. I AM ARROGANT, FOOLISH, IGNORANT, AND PROUD. I AM RESPECTED BY MY DOG AND REVERED BY MY GOLDFISH BUT MY CAT SHITS LIQUID ON MY PILLOW AND MY DAUGHTER THINKS I AM A TUB OF BAT GUANO. I HAVE NEVER FOUGHT IN ANY BATTLE OR EVEN A BAR PUNCH-UP. I WAS A DRAFT DODGER. I EAT BOOGERS. I HAVE NEVER BEEN MUCH OF ANYWHERE, EXCEPT ONCE I WENT TO KANSAS CITY WITH MY BOWLING TEAM TO SEE A TITTY SHOW. I HAVE SEEN HOGAN'S ARMY, GOMER PYLE, THE DICK VAN DYKE SHOW, LOTS OF HBO MOVIE SPECIALS, WAYNE NEWTON IN THE FLESH, SIAMESE TWINS AT THE STATE FAIR, AND THREE RODEOS. I AM RECOGNIZED IN EVERY TWENTY-FIVE CENT PEEP SHOW IN BRANSON. I HAVE BEEN GRIPPED BY THE SURLY BONDS OF THE EARTH FOR MY WHOLE FUCKING LIFE AND I'M GETTING TIRED OF IT. MY FINEST HOUR COMES WHEN I AM BEATING OFF IN MY GUN SHED AFTER EVERYONE ELSE IS ASLEEP. I WANT TO LIE IN THE TREMBLING ARMS OF A GRIEVING MOTHER AT THE GRAVESITE OF HER HUSBAND WHO WAS A PARAPLEGIC AND LEFT HER WANTING THE BIG ONE CUMMING. MY NAME IS OLDE ROTTEN-TOOTH. LONG MAY I FART, DEAR GOD, LONG MAY I BLOW IN FATUOUS IGNORANCE. NO ONE SHOULD EVER FORGET.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 23:29:50 (EDT)

My two cents are: Virgil, go suck on your bottle, your drunken bum. Klinton, just had to show up today like what he thinks really matters. Klinton would just laugh it off while cumming on some interns chin. The whole while not giving a damn about the American people. Let's see, hmm, I remember Ron Brown and something about Klinton laughing and joking at his funeral until he realized the cameras were on him. A true actor and liar at the core for sure. ////////////////// I AM THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. MY NAME IS OLDE GLORY. I FLY ATOP THE WORLD'S TALLEST BUILDINGS, I STAND WATCH IN AMERICA'S HALLS OF JUSTICE. I FLY MAJESTICALLY OVER GREAT INSTITUTIONS OF LEARNING. I STAND GUARD WITH THE GREATEST MILITARY POWER IN THE WORLD. LOOK UP AND SEE ME!!! I STAND FOR PEACE, HONOR, TRUTH AND JUSTICE. I STAND FOR FREEDOM!!! I AM CONFIDENT, I AM ARROGANT, I AM PROUD. WHEN I AM FLOWN WITH MY FELLOW BANNERS, MY HEAD IS HELD A LITTLE HIGHER, MY COLORS A LITTLE TRUER. I BOW TO NO ONE!!!! I AM RECOGNIZED ALL OVER THE WORLD. I AM WORSHIPPED - I AM SALUTED - I AM RESPECTED - I AM REVERED. I AM LOVED - I AM FEARED!!! FOR MORE THAN 200 YEARS, I HAVE FOUGHT EVERY BATTLE OF EVERY WAR; GETTYSBURG, SHILOH, APPOMATTOX, SAN JUAN HILL, THE TRENCHES OF FRANCE, THE ARGONNE FOREST, ANZIO, ROME, THE BEACHES OF NORMANDY, THE JUNGLES OF GUAM, OKINAWA, TARAWA, KOREA, VIETNAM, THE HEAT OF THE PERSIAN GULF, AND A SCORE OF OTHER PLACES. LONG FORGOTTEN BY ALL, BUT THOSE WHO WERE THERE WITH ME. I WAS THERE!!! I LED MY SAILORS, SOLDIERS, FLYERS AND MARINES. I FOLLOWED THEM, I WATCHED OVER THEM, THEY LOVED ME. I WAS ON A SMALL HILL ON IWO JIMA. I WAS DIRTY, BATTLE TORN AND TIRED, BUT MY SAILORS AND MARINES CHEERED ME!!! I WAS PROUD!!! I HAVE BEEN SOILED, BURNED, TORN AND TRAMPLED ON IN THE STREETS OF OTHER COUNTRIES THAT I HAVE HELPED TO SET FREE. IT DOES NOT HURT, FOR I AM INVINCIBLE. I HAVE BEEN SOILED, BURNED, TORN AND TRAMPLED ON IN THE STREETS OF MY OWN COUNTRY. AND WHEN IT IS DONE BY THOSE WHOM WITH I HAVE SERVED IN BATTLE, IT HURTS THE WORST!!! I SHALL OVERCOME, FOR I AM STRONG!!! I HAVE SLIPPED THE SURLY BONDS OF EARTH, AND FROM MY VANTAGE POINT ON THE MOON, I STAND WATCH OVER THE NEW FRONTIERS OF SPACE. I HAVE BEEN SILENT WITNESS TO ALL OF AMERICA'S FINEST HOURS, MY FINEST HOUR COMES WHEN I AM TORN INTO STRIPS TO BE USED AS BANDAGES FOR MY WOUNDED COMRADES ON THE FIELD OF BATTLE, WHEN I FLY HALF MAST TO HONOR MY SAILORS, SOLDIERS, FLYERS AND MARINES, AND WHEN I LIE IN THE TREMBLING ARMS OF A GRIEVING MOTHER AT THE GRAVESITE OF HER FALLEN SON OR DAUGHTER. I AM PROUD!!! MY NAME IS OLDE GLORY. LONG MAY I WAVE, DEAR GOD, LONG MAY I WAVE!!! NO ONE SHOULD EVER FORGET!!!
the last thing we need is klinton
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 22:59:56 (EDT)

My two cents are: Probably never would have happened. Old Tax and Spend Willy, if he hadn't been distracted by the attempted coup, would have probably figured out a way to set up a reasonable airport security system. To be fair to Snippy, he was pretty exhausted from watching Baker get him appointed, and then he had to put all his attention into bankrupting the government and enriching his friends. Hard to take care of business when you've got a finger up your ass the other hand in the cookie jar, and they won't let you take a drink before 8:00 p.m.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 22:39:21 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sure would be a good time to have slick willy back in the White House. At least he can carry on a conversation that makes sense. Also, had Clinton been in there we would already be watching the bombs falling on that asshole that did this.
Virgil <[email protected]>
Crestline, CA United States - Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 20:38:35 (EDT)

My two cents are: Where do you suppose Glint is? Vacuuming the Breightly Family Bible and Official Snake-handling Concordance in preparation for tomorrow's official "day of prayer?" The White House has also intructed us to organize candlelight vigils. This may be great for people interested in nanny-religion, but it sort of makes me uncomfortable to have the Government, backed by its jack-booted thugs, telling me when to assemble and believe on the Lord. It is also worrisome to have all these Arabs assembling in their houses of "worship" and popping up and down like jumping-jacks pointed toward Mecca. You get enough of these rag-heads together and after the Imam stops shouting the holy teachings at them they start ululating and celebrating and dancing the Bedouin Boogaloo. If we could get the "good" ones to clear out we wouldn't have to spend so much money and wait in such long lines to keep the bad ones off the airliners.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 20:32:28 (EDT)

My two cents are: Newsweek is now reporting that in the upcoming interview Justice Scalia has said that cutting short the election with Snippy ahead was a mistake, and that he wouldn't have done it if he "knew the country would be facing serious challenges requiring skilled leadership." Evidently he viewed this as a way to preserve the conservative court majority, and now regrets it. A little late, isn't it Vince?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 20:21:02 (EDT)

My two cents are: Worth saying twice, anonymous. The Snip in Dick Cheney's suit seems to be ambling toward a whole raft of ineffectual economic blockades, surgical strikes, and Keystone Kop CIA agents sitting in waiting rooms waiting to get their tickets punched. On the other hand, why does this look so tough? All you're looking at is a bunch of religious fanatics not much more sophisticated, although a lot tougher, than the Christian Coalition, and it is theoretically possible to spank a bomb into most of their yurts if you don't mind taking out a few hospitals and orphanages by mistake. It is certainly possible to hire a cop to stand by the boarding gate and check the passengers off against a book of mug-shots, root around in the Baywatch cast panties before loading the bags, and tell these assholes stuffing duffel bags in the overhead compartment that the party's over. Sure, it would be expensive to hire cops to check, but not if you compare it to dropping skyscraper parts on thirty or forty of them at a time and having to train new ones plus pay the survivor benefits. It would be nice to have some cops doing something useful instead of finger-fucking Columbian mules bringing in our much-needed recreational chemicals in Ziplock bags tucked up the ass like a string of sausages. A sensible outfit could pull this all off, but somehow listening to Snippy this outfit doesn't seem sensible in just that way. You can take the oilman out of the oil, but you can't take the oil out of the oilman, maybe, and we've appointed the wrong crew to handle this. A Republican administration is great for putting the Negro and the hard Mexican back on the street where he belongs, and culling out the excess dot.coms, and making citizens sign loyalty oaths and pledge alliegance to the flag and piss into government beakers. But the last set of foreigners they managed to make behave were the Spaniards, who weren't what you'd call a might power at the time. I wouldn't bet the ranch on this one.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 19:28:00 (EDT)

My two cents are: The ruins of the WTC nicely parallel the ruins of Stupid's economy. Time for Junior to run for cover. WAG that dog. WAG it good. Maybe they won't notice your hand in their cookie jar.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 18:49:17 (EDT)

My two cents are: If this is going to be a two-pronged effort -a War on Terrorism and tightened airport security- I'd like to see the security plan prong taken care of first, if it's not asking too much. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for a War on Terrorism, sort of along the lines of the War on Poverty if it had been allowed to proceed unfetterred by Vietnam and Republican yahoos. This could be a fine way to wiggle out of the doomed War on Drugs with a simple transfer of funds. Anyway, the way I see it, the terrorists won, bigtime. All of a sudden, Bush isn't the smug isolationist he was just days ago. You watch, soon Powell will be leading negotiations between the ragheads and the jews, pushing for Clinton's peace plan. I doubt you'll be hearing much about rescinding treaties or the need for Star Wars for quite a while. The terrorism was not a senseless act. Horrible, yes. Barbaric, sure. Just not senseless in the long run.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 18:25:22 (EDT)

My two cents are: I'll nail a blood-bowl to the maple tree and sacrifice those damned doves that keep shitting on the patio.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 18:10:40 (EDT)

My two cents are: US President George W. Bush has designated Friday as "a national day of prayers and remembrance," for the thousands of victims of the attacks on New York and Washington, the White House said Thursday. White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said the president will attend a prayer service here Friday to honor the estimated thousands of victims of the attacks Tuesday, and was "calling on Americans during their lunch hours" to take time to attend prayer services "to pray for our nation." Americans should "attend prayer services at churches, synagogues, mosques, other places of their choosing to pray for our nation, to pray for the families of those who were victimized by this act of terrorism," Fleischer told reporters.
mosques?
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 18:09:19 (EDT)

My two cents are: This whole thing sort of reminds me of back in the day, when the newsreaders and the punditry and the politicians were all thinking that there would be some sort of huge revulsion against Bill Clinton because he had been caught with his hand on the cookie, and he would be out in a week, maybe a month and a half max. In my area I haven't heard anyone beating his gums about warring on the A-rab, except when I was buying paint on my day-off of infamy the man getting his bucket mixed before me allowed as how they ought to nape the dancing Palestinians. And the weird yahoo across the street hung his 4th of July flag, but he has a lot of Christmas lights too. It's as if nobody is overjoyed that the towers fell down or is going to bitch much if his flight is delayed, but the general idea seems to be that Arabs stealing airplanes and killing themselves in them is not that off the wall, and these guys got luckier than they deserved to get. This is war, well, yeah, but it might be a little early to void your $300 check back to Captain Snippy. Let's see how much of the impending sacrifice comes out of the inheritance tax cut and the huge cuts for the top brackets, and how much needs to come out of the old folks' trust fund. It is inevitable that people will stop watching tube and start thinking about the accomplishments of 11 years of war with Iraq and about the helicopters that run out of gas over the Gobi desert chasing cowards that don't turn out to be all that cowardly. Poor General Glint figures he can get command of some Russian armored divisions and run them over the one-lane roads daylighted in mountainsides all the way to Kabul, but your average citizen in his SUV doesn't have that kind of glory to look forward to. Poor Glint figures that with us providing the Tang� and the Tetracycline, and the Russians providing the bodies, and good HTML tags providing the productivity that this will be a snap. I wouldn't count on the old portfolio doing much more than catching up with the way it looked in 1991, or this "war" amounting to a hill of shit.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 18:05:54 (EDT)

My two cents are: Don't worry about the Red Cross, they pay plenty for advertising. Donated ads don't cut it with those folks, they want the best that money can buy. The firefighter in the street will get some generic Visine drops in his eyes and a wipe-down with a dishrag.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 17:44:11 (EDT)

My two cents are: Well, I guess they have to do SOMETHING if they're going to donate the top banner to the Red Cross.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 17:16:27 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 16:55:20 (EDT)

My two cents are: If Harrison Ford were President, he wouldn't have flak-danced all the way to Nebraska. If his campaign manager told him he had to, he would have karate-chopped him down and hurled him out the hatch with no 'chute. That's the kind of campaign manager that makes a Bush look like a wimp. You guys remember the wimp factor, don't you? Hard to believe it could apply to a guy with a ranch and a belt buckle as big as the Alamo.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 16:32:12 (EDT)

My two cents are: Mayor Giuliani standing next to the burning building and having to really run for cover doesn't count. The guy has prostate cancer and a vindictive wife, so his life isn't worth a plugged nickel to begin with. Rumsfield's staying in the Pentagon just reveals him to be a nut.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 16:28:34 (EDT)

My two cents are: They were going to chase down Air Force One one their magic, flying carpets.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 16:19:37 (EDT)

My two cents are: Karl Rove is now saying that Snippy twice asked if he could go directly to Washington as Air Force One escaped toward Fortress Nebraska, zig-zagging to shake off any persuing terrorist blimps. What a brave guy! It now turns out, that some unidentified someone-or-other called up somebody and said Air Force One was targeted! Snippy had to run! Karen and Karl made him run! Who was Snippy to demand to go to his DC throne and put on his magic jogging suit of leadership? Karl said no, and that was that. What would the country do if Snippy were knocked out of the sky by a.... by.... well.... maybe by bags of honey peanuts thrown from the cockpit window of a commandeered 737? When the going gets tough, the tough get going, and the Snipster got going, craftily jockeying from airbase to airbase until he found one with a hole deep enough in the ground that the whole crew could crawl into it. Yet, still, according to the new information revealed by Karl Rove, the Snip was begging to be allowed to turn toward the inferno to the east. They just wouldn't let him.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 16:15:09 (EDT)

My two cents are: It's also comforting to note Glint's never ending hard-on for all things Clinton.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 16:11:22 (EDT)

My two cents are: I like it when Glint does one of his analyses of some yahoo's opinion screed in the New York Times, something he thinks of as the New York Times speaking. He's all over the place with the bracketed comments, crushing his own arguments as he procedes, giving no quarter, cutting no slack, leaving no wisp of bitter irony unuttered. Plus, he hdes, giving no quarter, cutting no slack, leaving no wisp of bitter irony unuttered. Plus, he has the uncanny ability to find what he fears between the lines, a message quite unlike the truth that Dad would deliver, sitting with the tank-town know-it-alls on the whittlin' bench, spitting into the bucket. This is what makes the old site worth the cost of entry, even with its premier military analyst AWOL in a Nairobi gonnorhea ward.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 15:32:07 (EDT)

My two cents are: I don't have a Father Asshole. I'm not even Catholic.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 14:24:29 (EDT)

My two cents are: S E R I O U S L Y *** This map link is just to give you some idea how close John's grave is to the impact site at the Pentagon in VA. The grave is located near the intsersection of MacAurther Drive and Patton Drive seen in this map: http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmap&addr=Arlington+National+Cemetery&city=&state=VIRGINIA&slt=37.568600&sln=-78.525400&mlt=38.871600&mln=-77.059500&name=&zip=&country=us&BFKey=&BFCat=&BFClient=&mag=9&desc=&cs=3&newmag=10&poititle=&poi= John can add this one to the list of wars he's seen including WWII, Korea, and Vietnam.
Glint
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 14:22:24 (EDT)

My two cents are: somewhere in Australia, a disjointed shadow of a man lurks at the sink, stiff bent cock in hand, Foster's in the other, staring at a jismmed pasty image of the gaping hole in the trade center. somehow he finds it erotic, but he's not thirsty anymore
better?
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 14:03:34 (EDT)

My two cents are: talking about your father asshole.
get a clue
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 14:00:26 (EDT)

My two cents are: Wrong sink. Try the one in Australia. (get a clue: 11:20:19)
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 13:54:11 (EDT)

My two cents are: somewhere in Harlem a disjointed shadow of a man lurks at the sink, stiff bent cock in hand, staring at a jismmed pasty image of the gaping hole in the trade center. somehow he finds it erotic.
not hilllary
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 13:51:11 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sounds like a bloody mess, box cutters be damned. Also explains how posing as the pilot might have helped calm passengers. http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/12/plane.phone.call/
"This is your pilot, Akwad, speaking!" <[email protected]>
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 13:49:12 (EDT)

My two cents are: This Afghanistan place seems like an easy target. The citizens don't even have guns. I give it two, maybe three months before President* Junior has turned it into another shining beacon of freedom.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 13:38:02 (EDT)

My two cents are: Did Snippy tell someone that he wanted to bomb Afghanistan?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 13:35:35 (EDT)

My two cents are: New York Times is on its knees licking Taliban sphincter >>> If there are Americans clamoring to bomb Afghanistan back to the Stone Age, they ought to know that this nation does not have so far to go. This is a post-apocalyptic place of felled cities, parched land and downtrodden people [like Osama B.] ...... In 1998, America fired a volley of more than 70 cruise missiles at guerrilla training camps reportedly operated by the Saudi multimillionaire Osama bin Laden [Bad, bad America!]. Now, there seems to be the prospect of another barrage, with Afghan hospitality to the same man as the cause [What? Attacking just because the people are nice? how outrageous!] .... "Killing our leaders will not help our people any. There is no factory in Afghanistan that is worth the price of a single missile fired at us [Guess BJ Clinton found that out the hard way]. It will simply increase the mistrust between the people in the region and the United States." Whatever else there is to say about this entreaty, one part that is indisputably true is that this land-locked, ruggedly beautiful nation is in absolute misery. Here in Kabul, the capital, roaming clusters of widows beg in the streets, their palms seemingly frozen in a supplicant pose [What? Bush wants to bomb the widows?]. Withered men pull overloaded carts, their labor less costly than the price of a donkey [...And old withered donkey men?]. Children play in vast ruins, their limbs sometimes wrenched away by remnant land mines [... And bomb the stumpy children too? What a monster!]. The Taliban are credited with improving safety. [Hitlary would love this part:] They disarmed the population..... [Sounds like Liberals to me.]
Glint
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 13:30:58 (EDT)

My two cents are: As the big jetliner hurtled toward the Pentagon she calmly told the cell phone that the Arkansas hit-list was about to get a lot longer.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 13:26:30 (EDT)

My two cents are: Where were these agencies on September 11, 2001?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 13:24:11 (EDT)

My two cents are: Listen, Hightower, these are the guys who pinpointed the Chinese Embassy so Clinton could hurl bombs at it. Liberal traitors to a man and woman.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 13:24:08 (EDT)

My two cents are: She called to say that one of the "Arabs" had a familiar bend to his schwanstuka.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 13:19:24 (EDT)

My two cents are: HIGHTOWER: America's Counter-Terrorism Terrorists Jim Hightower, AlterNet July 11, 2000 Just when you thought it was safe to go outside again, along comes the National Commission on Terrorism. Why is it that every time there's a terrorist assault somewhere, our country's officials respondby conducting a terrorist assault on our Bill of Rights? Welcome to the NCT, a panel of six Republicans and four Democrats appointed by congressional leaders after a 1998 bombing of a U.S. embassy in Africa. The panel's members are mostly former spooks from the CIA, FBI, and the like, so --Big Surprise! -- they have concluded that the answer to terrorist attacks around the world is to give spooks like them more power to restrain the civil liberties of innocent people here at home. The government already spends some $10 billion a year on assorted anti-terrorist escapades, yet this bunch wants more. For starters, the commission recommends that the Feds track the movements of every foreign student in the U.S. Is there a big problem with foreign students committing terrorist acts in our country? No. But, say these geniuses, a 'small minority may exploit their student status to support terrorist activity." Joseph McCarthy would be so proud. The commission says federal police should be alerted anytime foreign (or foreign-looking) students change their majors from, say, "English literature to nuclear physics." Oh yeah, switching majors is a sure sign of terrorist inclinations. In addition, the NCT wants to militarize the anti-terrorism campaign on our own soil, conveying operational authority from civilian agencies to the Pentagon. Now there's an idea that would make King George III smile. Also, the commission says the CIA must be unleashed again to employ foreign human-rights abusers, thugs, and even terrorists as informant agents. Great -- maybe the agency can re-recruit Manuel Noriega. This is Jim Hightower saying . . . Lord save us from counter-terrorism terrorists! http://www.alternet.org
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 13:19:01 (EDT)

My two cents are: And then Mr. Olson clicked his heels and let out a little involuntary yelp of glee.
she was a hero and we'll miss every burned chunk of her
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 13:17:24 (EDT)

My two cents are: How can we be anything but acrimonious, ever since Dumbocraps Cliton and Hitlery started this wag-the-dog stuff? Take no prisoners is what you do when you're up against a cowardly shadow-lurking enemy who is attacking you just because you're a shining beacon of freedom the way Snippy explained. I mean, what's so wrong about being a beacon of freedom? Taking prisoners is for wimps like Jimmy Carter and George C. Marshall, the socialist traitors. Thank God the right-wingers won the appointment and everybody is sitting in the catbird seat again. Sure would like to know how much my amazon.com has shot up. Go USA! Fly the flag, or else. Let's get in there to Outer Mongolia or wherever these creeps are hiding out, kick ass, and pull out before there is mission-creep and nation-building.
grab the oil AND the goats
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 13:14:54 (EDT)

My two cents are: The coffee lady debated Bill Press? She needs to switch to decaf.
Glint
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 12:56:17 (EDT)

My two cents are: Although Mrs. Olson was generally a take-no-prisoners advocate, Mr. Olson recalled on Tuesday that she recently told him she had come to believe that the national political debate had become too acrimonious. He recalled that she said that during one television appearance, she believed those who called in comments to her and her liberal counterpart, Bill Press, were far too harsh. [NY Times, 9/13/01]
A day late and a dollar short
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 12:37:21 (EDT)

My two cents are: Yeah, right. If you happen to be an Arab.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 12:33:00 (EDT)

My two cents are: Say what you will, scoffers, I think the Charge of the Snippy Brigade is going to be fun to watch.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 12:32:22 (EDT)

My two cents are: How does Glint manage to find the bottom of the barrel in ANY situation, and scrape it? The guy must be some kind of genius.
House of Meat
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 12:17:33 (EDT)

My two cents are: Is this the same Mrs. Olsen who used to hawk coffee on TV? All America agrees there is nothing more heroic than making a cell-phone call, unless it's faxing an order to a Chinese restaurant.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 12:16:08 (EDT)

My two cents are: Hey, Klayman, America's worst day was when they took the Alamo. The 2nd worst was when the liberals got Willy's cat. The 3rd worst was when they pulled Elian out of the arms of the Fisherman. Get your priorities straight.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 12:13:17 (EDT)

My two cents are: Aides to Seattle Mayor Paul Schell were stunned yesterday when they opened an envelope containing an invitation from New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani. The invitation was for a conference next month on disaster preparedness and included sessions on terrorism, major-event planning and "major building collapses with implications." The location: 7 World Trade Center, a 47-story building that collapsed Tuesday under the falling debris of the center's twin towers.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 12:05:47 (EDT)

My two cents are: Oh yeah, and then there was that time Clinton bombed the Chinese embassy. Give that man a cigar and an intern and tell him to sit down and shut the fu*k up!
Glint
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 11:46:19 (EDT)

My two cents are: (Washington, DC, September 12, 2001) Yesterday, during the events of what will be undoubtedly remembered as America's worst day, the life of Barbara Olson was tragically taken along with possibly thousands of other Americans. The reports of Mrs. Olson's heroic phone calls of assistance from the hijacked plane are no surprise to us. Throughout her life, Mrs. Olson demonstrated a fearless resolve when protecting the interests of her fellow Americans. She will be greatly missed and will always be remembered as a true American patriot, our friend and colleague. We, the Directors and Staff of Judicial Watch, would like to express our sincere condolences to the family of Mrs. Olson. Our prayers are with you.
Judicial Watch <[email protected]>
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 11:37:59 (EDT)

My two cents are: Who made Glint a general? Does the golem still get to pull rank, even from the Nairobi bunker?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 11:30:29 (EDT)

My two cents are: Elsewhere on the web: "...At l0 o'clock, [my son] Josh calls to say he is "standing in front of the hole" at ground zero and will be going in shortly. He has been asked to help search for bodies. He's phoning to say we won't see him until sometime today. This does not ease the heart. Two more buildings are creaking and ready to collapse. Late, they report there are asbestos particles in the smoke. I finally shut things down. I am afraid to turn off the phone as I usually do. The last thing I hear is that Al Gore is "stranded in Austria" and Bill Clinton is "under protective guard in a resort in Australia." For the first time in a long, long day there is some good news."
Glint
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 11:20:19 (EDT)

My two cents are: Don't worry, General Glint. Snippy has Karen Hughes on the team making sure that none of this will be politically embarassing. What could possibly go wrong?
charge!
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 11:15:47 (EDT)

My two cents are: What a major league big time fuc* up. Only way Clinton could hit any target was with a cigar! >>> "...Amid the calls and preparations for reprisals, there were some voices of caution. Brent Scowcroft, who was national security adviser during the Gulf War, said the United States needed to avoid hitting the wrong targets, as the Clinton administration did in 1998 when it bombed a pharmaceutical plant in Sudan and an empty militant camp in Afghanistan after bin Laden associates allegedly bombed U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania...."
Glint
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 11:11:48 (EDT)

My two cents are: Russia was a soft, layabout, vodka-soaked country. Our guys go to the gym two times a week and drink Chardonnay, a healthy beverage.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 11:00:03 (EDT)

My two cents are: Military aid to an Afghani tribesman is powder and ball and a nice sturdy bolo knife. Those people could have got all the supplies they needed out of the Sears Garden Catalogue.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 10:58:29 (EDT)

My two cents are: General Glint is right. The Afghan campaign is a slam-dunk. Let's hurry up and do it quick before somebody else picks them off!
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 10:54:32 (EDT)

My two cents are: So why couldn't Clinton take his dick out the sink long enough to act on the intelligence information and attack Bin Ladan when he had the chance (or was he going easy on Binny because he was the tail that wagged the dog for Clinton during the 1998 embassy bombings?) >>> WASHINGTON - In the waning days of the Clinton presidency, senior officials received specific intelligence about the whereabouts of Osama bin Laden and weighed a military plan to strike the suspected terrorist mastermind's location. The administration ultimately opted against an attack. The information spurred a high-level debate inside the White House in December 2000 about whether the classified information provided the last best chance for President Clinton to punish bin Laden before he left office, the officials said.
Glint
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 10:49:53 (EDT)

My two cents are: Now wait, just think about it. Last time Russia went into Afganistan who was helping them? They were fighting the Afganie who were getting military aid from which other super power? Now that you understand the true nature of the "quagmire" note that the NATO allies may also be involved. Some of these allies used to be in the Warsaw Pact. In other words you'll have Russia's allies and the U.S. allies on the same team. Remember last time Russia and the U.S. teamed up? Did they win?
Glint
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 10:31:12 (EDT)

My two cents are: What?!! Thers's some Nostradamain quatraine that says something like "beware when the twin boners at the tip of the land shaped like a nutsack shrink unto flaccidity, for then the bald eagle shall grow hair up its ass."[?] I won't believe it until I read it, in its original tongue, of course. :-)
Glint
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 10:21:27 (EDT)

My two cents are: As Glint has noted, a good scrap can be invigorating. Like the scrap on that flight that went down in Pennsylvania. The bummer is when the cowards hide in the shadows or at least in the pilot's seat and knock down your financial district skyscrapers like dominoes. By all means, we need to jump into a good scrap with the Pathan head-loppers in their home mountains, February would be a nice time to hit.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 10:14:40 (EDT)

My two cents are: Hi guys. The only person I know who worked in the WTC left late that morning and was stepping onto the ferry in Hoboken when it happened. Good karma, I guess. Sorry, Curt... I'm in my office & plan on staying here for a while.
Teresa
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 10:11:51 (EDT)

My two cents are: Yes, the Russians will go in in front. There's nothing like getting quagmired in Afghanistan to make a country want to get quagmired in Afghanistan. Maybe we should hit France first, just to tune up the troops.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 10:09:52 (EDT)

My two cents are: Reports were they had knives too. Probably small thin knives, like the shivs which are quite effectively popular in the prisons against other unarmed prisnors. Mexicans carry them in their shoes. Has anyone looking at it from that angle yet? I just bit into a burrito and the thing exploded grease and pulp out the back end all over the keyboard and screen! Be careful what you eat in these trying days.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 10:08:15 (EDT)

My two cents are: The Gulf War! What a moral-builder that one was! Grenada all over again, with real bullets.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 10:07:34 (EDT)

My two cents are: The Russians didn't have smart bombs that can fly right down the chimney of a yurt.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 10:06:04 (EDT)

My two cents are: Russia has been a fine staging area for Afghanistan. Many courageous campaigns have embarked from that dear sod.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 10:05:05 (EDT)

My two cents are: Yeah. Half the mom 'n' pops in San Francisco are owned by Palestinians. They're all headed back to the homeland to defend against the invasion of bloodthirsty Glints and it's hard to get a jug of Ripple.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 10:03:40 (EDT)

My two cents are: Hi Teresa, welcome back. What, is your flight grounded somewhere and you're killing time at some airport internet bar or something? The coalition is going to be built. The home governments of the perps, Egypt and Saudi, have already pledged. Russia's a given. Another chance to bomb Afghanistan? They'll jump at the chance to avenge their "Vietnam." They need a good scrap to boost moral, like the "Gulf War" did for this nation. Coincidentally, Condolleeza Rice's area of specialization is Russia. Can you say "staging area?"
Glint
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 10:02:09 (EDT)

My two cents are: Yo. Box-cutters might work pretty good on those stitches, set up pig.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 10:01:03 (EDT)

My two cents are: Is hum still in jail? Or just the rehab? The only tail he's talking about is the one big bubba's been penetrating every night.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 09:56:31 (EDT)

My two cents are: Just spoke to Ho-hum. Man, does he have a tale to tell about the ripple effect (or is it "affect?") of this war. More to follow.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 09:43:12 (EDT)

My two cents are: Hi Teresa, good to see you. Did you know anyone in the blast?
Whatever
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 09:37:28 (EDT)

My two cents are: Hiya Whatever. Good to see you're okay. You too, Curt.
Teresa
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 09:29:03 (EDT)

My two cents are: That's impossible, seeing as how there are no facts in this situation.
Whatever
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 09:19:55 (EDT)

My two cents are: ...and the baby bear said, i was on the plane and they killed us all up
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 09:19:32 (EDT)

My two cents are: get your facts right already
allah knows
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 09:16:25 (EDT)

My two cents are: "Those guys," meaning the terrorists. They probably won't find the shit for a good month.
Whatever
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 09:13:02 (EDT)

My two cents are: Those guys could have shut the black box off. God only knows why they would put a mechanism ON THE PLANE to shut the black box off, but then again, God only knows how 50+ grown men and women could let 3 - 6 towel heads with some pussy-ass BOX CUTTERS, for Christ sake, kill them all up and take over the plane.
Whatever
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 09:12:26 (EDT)

My two cents are: babies with 3 arms + shit = GW blunder
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 09:07:20 (EDT)

My two cents are: I might be going down to NYC, to visit my hard-headed boyfriend who's bent on getting a passport. If I do, we're headed to the disaster zone. I can't wait to see it for myself.
Whatever
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 09:07:01 (EDT)

My two cents are: Actually, I think we have to choose between nukes or rapers and pillagers. Don't think we can do both. Unless Shrubbie's stupid enough to send ground troops in before or after the nukes are dropped. I mean, folks don't seem to mind the thought of human casualties, but they will if Shrubbie sends them in to rape and pillage and then blows them all up, and sends the rest home to make babies with 3 arms and shit.
Whatever
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 09:05:03 (EDT)

My two cents are: nukes + rapes = test of America's resolve
bring it on
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 08:57:59 (EDT)

My two cents are: nukes + rapes = economic recession
i dont think so
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 08:44:50 (EDT)

My two cents are: someone should advise the rapers and pillagers of Afghan women and children to take care of business BEFORE the nukes are dropped. might be hard to get in the mood with the radioactive fallout and all.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 08:43:34 (EDT)

My two cents are: Well, Nostradamus said that this action would spawn WWIII. I'm assuming Shrubbie must be enjoying a nice, high approval rating at this point, combined with a 100% approval rating for this pending war. However; once the nukes have been dropped and the Afghan women and children have been raped and pillaged, when the ensuing recession rolls in, how are his approval ratings going to be?
Whatever
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 08:38:22 (EDT)

My two cents are: The Japs thought America was soft when they bombed Pearl. A short two years later they were claiming that the Marine Corps had recruited a bunch of Chicago gangsters who fought dirty. Look for reverses, though, at first, something akin to getting pushed back to Australia by a bunch of sword-wagging buck-toothed nips who couldn't do anything but manufacture cheap knock-offs of American toys. As everyone from war-worn Snippy to George F. Will says, this will be a long, tough fight. Maybe we should break out the nukes?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 08:23:56 (EDT)

My two cents are: People are forgetting the Heartland. The land of Burma Shave, of Wayne Newton, particularly the Show-Me State. What we need is to fill a C-47 with Missouri Riflemen wearing their deer-hunting camo and pancake it into the Kabul airport. Let them spill out into the surrounding mountains on their all-terrain vehicles and get to sniping. These guys can shoot a Mujahadeen pirate off his yak at five thousand feet with their groundhog rifles. What do they think, that this country was settled by a bunch of fat-assed vacuum-cleaner salesmen who watch Buffy? Bring it on!
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 08:06:34 (EDT)

My two cents are: What this country needs right now is a bunch of Glints shouting let's get them bastards.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 07:57:22 (EDT)

My two cents are: Actually, war isn't great for the economy, when you feel that it is imperative to stop taxing rich guys. Your Viet Nam war fucked this economy good, the old guns 'n' butter strategy for financing blown-up equipment by going light on the pot. War against Arabs is particularly tricky when your memo-writers and HTML programmers drive to work in SUV's. War led by the former part-owner of the Texas Rangers, a reformed drunk with no brains or equanimity, and a houseful of rapacious oil brokers to feed, may have a strike or two against it from the get-go. War when you have Orrin Hatch spilling your intelligence secrets all over USA today has a few bugs in it until we get the barbed wire strung around the shack we have to send him to live in. War against persons unknown in a place you can't get to with allies you can't trust and balls you don't have isn't much more useful than a good team of grave-diggers to put the scraps into, in the present situation.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 07:55:09 (EDT)

My two cents are: Quiz of the day: What would you rather be? A bro riding a camel down Broadway or a sandy drivin a deuce and a quarter low rider tricked out with gold plating and fur seats wearing a fedora on Wall St?
you choose
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 07:51:54 (EDT)

My two cents are: The other thing is that I hope we're not characterizing these guys as "crazy." Nothing crazy about them. In fact, they supposedly turn away mentally unstable people, because they can't get their shit together when the time calls for them to do so. They recruit the suicide bombers in the mosques, and train them in camps, similar to what Navy Seals go through. It's no joke. They're not crazy, they just hate America that much, and truly believe that Allah will receive them and praise them for bringing down the Devil's country.
Whatever
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 07:37:41 (EDT)

My two cents are: But guys, it seems to be true that all these terrorists had was box cutters and knives. I really can't fathom that all those people couldn't have prevailed over some towel-heads with box-cutters, for Christ sake. Shee-it, we went through worse assaults in junior high and high school. All the kids carried shanks and box-cutters, and you'd see the occasional Sally Jessy Raphael Show, all up in arms because some 13-year-old girl got her face slashed by some punks with box-cutters. How can 50+ grown people let even 6 people kill up everyone and take over the plane? There HAD to have been some other weapon, or else, those terrorists were no fucking joke with those box-cutters. I suppose, if you've been in training half your life, even the plastic spoons become weapons of mass destruction. I guess.
Whatever
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 07:30:57 (EDT)

My two cents are: I was this close yesterday to calling the FBI and warning them to monitor my neighborhood. Quite a few Arabs in my apartment building alone. Told y'all yesterday how I stared a couple of them down, if not for anything, for the fact that I feel bad for them, and am proud of them, as they stand to incur some psychological abuse, quite comparable to the routine stop of a brother in an expensive car because "they fit the description."
Whatever
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 07:27:35 (EDT)

My two cents are: On the other hand, war is really good for the economy, and as opposed to GW #41, GW #43's wag-the-dog effort comes with 100% public approval. Hell, we got people lined up, ready to don the combat boots and automatic weapons. This whole thing may be better for Shrubbie than any of us could have ever imagined.
Whatever
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 07:25:15 (EDT)

My two cents are: The free world is over as we know it. Jesus, I had to pump my own gas today while the ragheads at the 7-11 huddled over a PC looking for a site to buy magic carpets to fly home on. The flag shop was sold out of Old Glory but slashed prices on the Afghan flags. Afghan TV is airing a miniseries this weekend called "Boxcutters and you - Hijacking 101".
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 07:23:48 (EDT)

My two cents are: Well, shit's still fucked up. Logan Airport opening up this week? HAH!! I can't believe my boyfriend's still in NYC, thinking he's getting his passport any time this week or next. God bless his determination, though. So, I guess the whole give-them-the-land-and-shoot-it-to-hell thing won't work, since the Afghanis aren't interested in any land. They need to be, since Afghanistan is a burnt-out shithole, but whatever. You all take note, as the evidence mounts against bin Laden, that Iran, Iraq, Libya, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, and all these questionable Middle East countries "align" themselves with America and NATO, so as to not get the shit bombed out of them. I hope Shrubbie's not that gullible.
Whatever
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 07:23:35 (EDT)

My two cents are: Airports? Of course! Airports, that's what the prez meant when he said ports.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 07:01:58 (EDT)

My two cents are: One bright side of war is that you get to take all your production and hurl it into the bleak hills of central Asia. You don't have to waste it patching chuck-holes or building bridges. War and huge tax cuts go together like hot dogs and mustard. War is the one thing that finally gets the government off the back of the citizen. War is good because it gives you time to adjust to your old SUV will Detroit concentrates on building military vehicles to run over land mines with. Economic warfare also has the benefit of putting the kibosh on this globalization business. It stabilizes prices, and drives up the value of internet sites selling mail-order dog pillows. And the best thing about war is that the good guys always win.
House of Meat
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 07:00:02 (EDT)

My two cents are: Let's not do anything rash until we get all our Seventh-day Adventist missionaries out of Afghanistan.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 06:53:10 (EDT)

My two cents are: The best way to strike fear into the hearts of these bastards is to go on CNN and jawbone about what you are going to do to them and their harbours. We can count on Enron to ensure the domestic tranquility while the volunteer army and what's left of the CIA and FBI are running these punks to earth.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 06:51:16 (EDT)

My two cents are: Let's all join up with the USA and crush the Arab and his oil baksheesh. Let's line up behind the great empire whose resolve has been tested by the swift stroke of the box-cutter and a box with the word "bomb" written on it.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 06:47:20 (EDT)

My two cents are: What the president* meant to say was that they are cowards compared to him. This is a man who as we speak is still trying to jew down the reparations to China for landing a busted airplane on their island to a mere $37,000. This is a man who had the courage to hide his drunk driving arrest from his children for something like fourteen years. This is a man with the courage and endurance to dance naked on a table with a lampshade on his head for forty-five minutes before tumbling into the hurl. This is a long tall Texan with a big belt buckle and a ranch. Don't even try to compare him to some anonymous rag-head creeping around an airport security gate with a box-cutter in his overnight bag.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 06:44:27 (EDT)

My two cents are: You get real, anonymous. The president*'s speech-writers are right. Who but a coward would take over an airliner and sixty passengers, armed with a box-cutter? Talk about chicken-hearted!
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 06:38:11 (EDT)

My two cents are: It seems to me that a NATO official in, say, Luxembourg, might be looking somewhat askance at the leadership in the USA right about now. Maybe they will go for a coalition, if only to inject some sense into the bullshit spree. Maybe they will think for ten or twenty seconds and figure that maybe the Arabs didn't steal the airliners and fly them into the skyscrapers because America is the beacon of freedom. Maybe they won't agree that the hijackers were cowards. Maybe they will want to discuss some of these things before climbing in the helicopters to fly a thousand miles across the desert into Kabul. Maybe they will say, "let's get real."
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 06:33:47 (EDT)

My two cents are: I don't know if it's wise to attack the Arabs. They have knives.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 06:28:47 (EDT)

My two cents are: I don't know. Maybe they'll want us to try upping the airport security guard wages to eight dollars an hour and give them paid coffee breaks.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 06:27:48 (EDT)

My two cents are: Screw the Strategic Oil Reserve. We've got twice the Strategic Oil Reserve sitting under all those caribou. Can you spell oil shale? Solar energy? Bring it on!
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 06:26:26 (EDT)

My two cents are: It's true about the coalition. The only difference might be that in 1992 the trick was to go in and grab the oil-fields back, whereas now the call will be to shut off oil production to whip the Arab into line, put an economic hurt on him, take away his figs the way we've been denying Saddam Hussein his figs for the past 11 years. Surely the civilized world will jump at the chance to dry up their gas pumps to strike at persons unknown. The frogs right now are probably planning their campaign, worried silly that somebody might drive the Concorde into the Eiffel tower. They are probably confident that this time Bush won't stop at the border, but will roll whatever suspects we attack right up to their capital city. Sign right here on the dotted line, Spain and Portugal, Norway and Italy, Poland and Turkey. The Japanese will be permitted to contribute funds. I'd feel better about this, though, if Clinton hadn't pissed away the Strategic Oil Reserve.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 06:23:47 (EDT)

My two cents are: Too bad Clinton couldn't build a coalition. Milosevic would be in custody by now and the Serbs would be out of Kosovo.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 06:16:12 (EDT)

My two cents are: If he's as successful as his father, we ought to be able to take Bin Laden out in about 25 years. Of course, if Saddam was behind this thing, maybe we'll have to re-evaluate Poppy's great success.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 06:14:56 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sort of on the theory that flying an airplane into the World Trade Center is tantamount to flying an airplane into the whole civilized world? Makes sense. Soon we will see Danish airplanes flying deep into Kuwait on clouds of napalm to discipline the ululating hordes? Maybe. Maybe not.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 06:10:02 (EDT)

My two cents are: ...or a similar mistake. Same mistake, different dick-in-hand Democrat.
Glint
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 05:05:43 (EDT)

My two cents are: Looks like it's time for Dubya to build his own coalition as his father so successfully did before him. Question is, will the sheeple remember or will they turn their back on him and make the same mistake they did in 1992?
Glint
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 05:04:14 (EDT)

My two cents are: "Afghanistan was port-less last time I looked" - Anonymous@21:47:10. What brilliant insight! Has the Taliban banned the airplane and bulldozed the airport in Kabul? Amazing!

- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 04:57:41 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 04:43:52 (EDT)

My two cents are: Well, all this theoretical speculation is well and good, but as a media event the best thing about the fly-in was the picture of the airliner slipping into to second tower like Pete's famous big one cumming into a twat wide open, and then this guy Eagleburger's act. Eagleburger is a George the First state department lackey, the guy who spent so many months kissing Slobodan's ass, who muscled his way onto all the television networks yesterday as one of the few potential talking heads with nothing much else to do. This guy was a regular fire-breather of almost Glintian proportions, ranting and raving about war war war and kicking the Pathan's ass back and forth over the Khyber Pass, taking out Saddam, wailing that America must have the balls for the long haul, you name it. At the end of the day he ended up on the network that has the other guy who is not Dan Rather and who doesn't have the hairlip voice, Peter something, and Peter asked him a few pointed questions and he dissolved into a bowl of jello. Seeing this character makes you happy that Snippy felt the need to hire a token cabinet member with nappy hair and ended up with Powell, whether he's on Thorazine or not. He's the only one of these fools who isn't a real termite-exterminating pumpkin-shooting Republican, goes around giving lectures about children depending on communities, sounding like a dark-complected version of Hillary Clinton. I get the feeling that he's the only moderately sane person on the whole ship of clowns, the only one who's anything more than an oil broker looking for the next deal. He may have a yellow stripe up his back as wide as Uncle Tom's do-rag, but at least he's not behaving like a kid trying to bust into a gumball-machine like the rest of Snippy's crew.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 21:56:05 (EDT)

My two cents are: President* Bush said our enemies ports would not be secure. Perhaps he's contemplating a raid on Italy since Afghanistan was port-less last time I looked.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 21:47:10 (EDT)

My two cents are: Yeah. What them Talibanese need is a good dose of nation-building. I've always said we wouldn't do any nation-building unless somebody drove a couple of airliners into Morgan Stanley's World Headquarters.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 19:54:48 (EDT)

My two cents are: Hey, scoffing anonymous, certainly if we appropriate funds we can find a solution. Look what Sylvester Stallone accomplished in Viet Nam. Let the spending commence!
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 19:52:52 (EDT)

My two cents are: Afghanistan.... Afghanistan.... isn't that mountain range full of Pathan head-loppers, bordered by Russia, Iran, Pakistan, and some bogus former Soviet republic? The one that stopped Alexander the Great, Peter the Great, Pitt the Elder, and Gunga Din? The one that is a thousand miles from the nearest aircraft carrier? The one that just kicked Russia's ass and broke up the Soviet Union? Shit, ought to be able to extradite that guy with a couple of Special Forces A-teams trained to eat lizards. Piece of cake. What the fuck are we waiting for?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 19:51:24 (EDT)

My two cents are: Powell is playing a cat and mouse game with the dog-waggers. Unless he's on board as their frizzy-haired mascot and all they plan for him is to breed him with Condalezza after Cheney has had his way with her big-time and is spent. If he's not planning to call in his Army chips and have the junta arrested by troopers wearing the new trendy black berets, then we're all screwed, in the deep doo-doo as George the First used to say, and we might as well start marching toward the ovens. It seems as if poor Pete was right, and the bad guys have taken over, although he characteristically got it backwards, wrong bad guys. As a soldier, Powell was calm, clear-thinking, not prone to panic, restrained, possibly even chicken-shit, and these qualities would be essential if things were really as they appear, and we are governed by a crew of excitable amateurs who think they are somehow going to put a hurt on Afghanistan the way nobody has been able to do since Ghengis Khan. The current situation, if it were real, would call out a clarion bleat for a reasonable airport security system and the digging of many graves, which would pretty much solve it. Powell seems to have the brains to be able to figure this out, although nobody else in a prominent position has, and people may sense it in him, so he is good p.r. and safe for the moment. He is working within the belly of the beast, a Negro disguised as a Republican, and he is our only hope. The Thorazine is just a disguise. When he starts barking out orders, it will be with the bark of a hound that could have disembowled Saddam Hussein, if he had had any balls. Watch for his signal, frightened America.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 19:42:16 (EDT)

My two cents are: Barbara Olson paid the ultimate price for being a lying, angry cunt. A bit steep, perhaps, but kharma does catch up with you. Of more immediate concern is why Snippy's suit suddenly looks 3 sizes too big for him. And whoever is shining the headlights in his eyes better stop now. If we can't have a duly elected president in our time of crisis, at least somebody should be working on the Snip's body language. Maybe Dan Quayle get his squint trainer to work with Bush. Is Powell on thorazine?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 19:19:29 (EDT)

My two cents are:
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 17:23:38 (EDT)

My two cents are: In Bakersfield, Calif., the Army recruitment office took dozens of calls and walk-ins Tuesday and Wednesday - three to four times the normal activity, station commander Warren K. Hurley said........
Tommy, we hardly knew ye.
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 17:20:41 (EDT)

My two cents are: It seems weird. As if the whole country had suddenly turned into Nebraska. On the way home there's a spleeb on a heretofore unoccupied corner holding the Good Book up in front of his nose and shouting verses from Revelations. I follow a honyocker in a mini-van who's got a three foot American flag on a pole mounted on the roof. On the other hand, the former Bush economy seems to have been doing all right until the RNC Cubans did their work. A Mexican who used to come down my street pushing an ice-cream cart that has a bell that rings every time the wheels go around has gone up-scale and now pulls it with a cheap mountain bike. It is hard to figure out how to deal with all this stuff without the Pete� ghost to explain it. I hope he comes back soon. He'll know what to do.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 17:15:49 (EDT)

My two cents are: Don't mess with that red signature. It's a trap to run up the advertisers' hit counters. It's the equivalent of clicking on the button that says you have 1 message waiting. They're starting to play dirty.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 16:47:59 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 14:07:15 (EDT)

My two cents are: Suicidal aliens? They must not adhere to Islam. The government of Egypt has proved that it is impossible for a Muslim pilot to commit suicide.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 13:41:03 (EDT)

My two cents are: "Or was it the one about the aliens zap-raying New York City?" - Anon. Day of the Saucers. They were crashing into buildings all over D.C. One of them took down the Washington Monument and I think another one landed on Abe's lap.
Glint
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 13:10:04 (EDT)

My two cents are: Hey Osama, when you crawl out from under that rock in Afghanistan, I am coming down to that shithole and shove that fucking koran up your murdering ass. Get ready motherfucker.
God
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 13:06:06 (EDT)

My two cents are: 1 part Arafat blood + 1 part stem cell research = a master race of ugly mediocre drummers with a penchant for marrying broads with great wheels. Now you know why GW is against it.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 12:59:32 (EDT)

My two cents are: And the person who drew the blood stepped discreetly out back and poured it into the sand. I mean, why take chances? Have you taken a close look at the guy?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 12:52:54 (EDT)

My two cents are: Excuse me. I've got to go down to the elections office and change my registration to Republican. Just as soon as I cancel the New Republic subscription and erase my Tom Oliphaunt bookmark.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 12:50:59 (EDT)

My two cents are: Arafat was not donating blood for the cause; he was replacing blood used in the lobotomy of his son, Ringo Starr.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 12:47:48 (EDT)

My two cents are: He says that the liberals have been handing out classified documents and put their neighbors in the World Trade Center at risk. Gosh, I hope this one goes into the Al Haig bin pretty quick. We got another discombobulated Republican on the prowl.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 12:47:14 (EDT)

My two cents are: The Vistaliner is a hoax. He actually commandeered a NY taxi and replaced the driver, a Mr. Andlzrwkc, with Mohammad Al Mohammad Al Mohammad of Queens.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 12:45:34 (EDT)

My two cents are: Secretary Rumsfield is having a press conference and is advocating putting all the Japs in concentration camps or something. He says you don't walk outside whistling in a war zone, so lets develop a little balance between freedom and self-defense. If there were a stock exchange, it would be a good time to invest in Barbed Wire.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 12:45:17 (EDT)

My two cents are: Isn't it just amazing that Hollywood predicted this? I refer to Wag the Dog and the one about the blimp attacking the Super Bowl. Or was it the one about the aliens zap-raying New York City?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 12:43:30 (EDT)

My two cents are: They showed Arafat giving blood for the rescue effort?
Whatever
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 12:41:26 (EDT)

My two cents are: He hijacked a Grayhoud Vistaliner and is on his way to Phoenix. They've got spy satellites searching for the bus right now.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 12:39:11 (EDT)

My two cents are: So, is Powell going to ask NATO to mobilize against the Bush Administration? What are the legal ramifications here. Doesn't NATO keep its hands off intra-national squabbles? What is Powell's exposure if the administration is brought before the international court? Can he claim to have been a shunned outsider until they needed to push somebody who could talk sense up front?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 12:37:54 (EDT)

My two cents are: How come they haven't broken the story about these guys getting arrested in the hotel in Boston? One guy supposedly escaped by hijacking an Amtrak train or something off the wall like that.
Whatever
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 12:37:14 (EDT)

My two cents are: What you're asking, anonymous, is where do we ride in on the napalm cloud? Whatever's idea about hitting the raggers in Palestine and Kuwait is a good one, but we should maybe hold some inventory for the ranch out in Dustbin, Texas. If Powell could get his old buddies to broil Hughes, Rove, and the rest of the staff under one cloud, we'd be home free. Save Snippy to throw himself on the mercy of the court, and see if Scalia and Rhenquist stick with him, which would be a good excuse to string them up by the balls and teach them what justice is really about. Old Man Bush should be left to stew in his memories, even if he turns out to be the one pulling the strings.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 12:32:20 (EDT)

My two cents are: First Vince Foster, now Barbara Olson. Who's next on cunt Hillary's hit list?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 12:27:57 (EDT)

My two cents are: You know, the realization that the plane-whacking knocked off many times the margin of the Bush election "victory" makes you stop and think. Of course, New York City is a notoriously Democrap-ridden burg, but most of those votes are down in the street, and all you'd get in the World Trade Center is a few janitors. If Bush picked up any sympathy votes for being forced to try to look like a leader, he killed as many of his supporters outright. Maybe Jim Baker is loosing his touch, or maybe he's playing second fiddle to Karen Hughes. How did Bush himself do in remedial math? Who the hell is in charge of this thing?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 12:24:42 (EDT)

My two cents are: Shit, I had to show my federal I.D. to a swarthy gun-toting chick guarding the only one of four gates into the parking lot they opened this morning. Later on there was an e-mail memo from the guy in charge of monitoring water-cooler traffic warning that anyone giving lip to the security guards would be dealt with severely. Jesus H. Christ, a dozen rag-heads figure out that Americans are too irritable to submit themselves to airport security and too cheap to pay for it, they get lucky with the heat-resistance properties of structural steel, and suddenly everyone has to read chickenshit memos from self-appointed cops? Give me a break. I got shovels to lean on, dude.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 12:18:50 (EDT)

My two cents are: You are right. The term "folks" IS a bit harsh.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 12:15:11 (EDT)

My two cents are: Yeah, sure, it's always nice to have bevies of blondes doing the mouth-frothing. I mean, have you ever taken a close look at Pat Buchanan or Tony Blankeley? One rabid mouth-breathing right-wing fanatic is as good as the next, although it is true that only women can fit the proper medical definition of hysterical. But why was this stitch-twatted set-up pig in the Pentagon when the big one was cumming? Was she lawyering in there or just looking up Senator Kerry's records? Did the coordinators of this event know that such a key link was exposed? What kind of Cubans is the RNC hiring these days? Let's try to get it together, and stop bumping off so many of our own people, guys. Even Timothy McVeigh knew enough to target government employees rather than enough Republican voters to swing a Bush election.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 12:12:26 (EDT)

My two cents are: I hear they caught the perps or some perp supporters in a hotel in downtown Boston. They said that the car that the terrorists had rented, from National Rental Car, a Mitsubishi, was rented to folks either from or with ties to the United Arab Emirates.
Whatever
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 11:55:40 (EDT)

My two cents are: http://slate.msn.com/code/theFray/thefray.asp?m=1825939
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 11:25:50 (EDT)

My two cents are: Barbara Olson can rest in peace knowing how deeply she was able to infiltrate beneath the Liberal skin. Read slowly and savor this broiled carp: :-D >>> TRNP has been watching the growing media presence of a bevy of blondes on the talk-news circuit espousing the cause of Kenneth Starr in his single-minded pursuit of Bill Clinton. Four chief spokesmen for Mr. Starr--let's call them Starrlets--are Barbara Olson, Laura Ingraham, Whitney Adams, and Ann Coulter. The first three are members of the Scaife-funded conservative media booking agency called the Independent Women's Forum (see above) which fields dozens of conservative women into the mediastream to mouth their opinions on multiple conservative issues. ..... Gleaning from skimpy news reports and on-air comments, Barbara Olson served as lead counsel to Congressional Oversight Ccommittee probing the White House in the FBI files and �Travelgate� matters. Despite the fact that these two investigations are still open and ongoing by Ken Starr, Olson speaks about the cases on talk news shows and uses her inside knowledge of these investigations in her arguments to support Mr. Starr. She is married to Theodore Olson who was an attorney for David Hale while Hale was cooperating with Congressional Whitewater probes. Her husband Ted was at one time one of Starr�s law partners. He recently resigned (we believe) from the board of American Spectator where he was Director of the American Spectator Educational Foundation (which received $345,000 from Scaife in 1996 alone). Ted Olson was said to be responsible for firing Spectator publisher Ron Burr who wanted to audit Scaife's Arkansas Project at the American Spectator, yet Olson was in charge of the Spectator's in-house probe of the Arkansas Project. Cozy. Barbara has publicly discussed socializing with Ken Starr, "but there's so many other things to discuss that we never discuss the Grand Jury." (Notably she did not give the correct answer: "Oh, Grand Jury matters are secret and it would be contempt of court for Judge Starr to discuss them"). Barbara Olson is tough. During the Lewinsky uproar she appeared almost daily on major news talk shows (CNBC, MSNBC, CNN, Fox News and ABC), persistently defending Mr. Starr with a subtle and amazing grace, smooth as silk. She's a pro. Barbara Olson functions, in effect, as a leading spokesman for Ken Starr whom she always refers to as �Judge Starr.� She qualifies as the #1 "Starrlet" in commercial talk news today, although her media hosts seldom if ever mention any of her significantly pro-Starr, anti-Clinton background and associations. Rivera cut off one of his talking heads in mid-sentence when the poor gentleman (Susan McDougal attorney Mark Garegos) was trying to blurt out all of Barbara Olson's Starrian connections. Talk news hosts almost always identify her benignly as a �former federal prosecutor,� often without mentioning what cases she worked on (Filegate and Travelgate). Sometimes she is labeled �Independent Women�s Forum�--but almost always without mentioning Scaife's funding of IWF.
Glint
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 11:10:55 (EDT)

My two cents are: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2001/09/11/victims-olson.htm
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 10:55:02 (EDT)

My two cents are: Killed in the Pentagon crash was author and delightfully anit-Clinton lawyer and political commentator Barbara Olson: http://r1.us.rmi.yahoo.com/rmi/http://shop.barnesandnoble.com:/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp/rmivars%3ftarget=_top?userid=0H165IQMEE&mscssid=&sourceid=00002123464168997780&bfdate=09%2D12%2D2001+13%3A40%3A28&ean=9780895262745
Glint
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 10:50:06 (EDT)

My two cents are: The calvary shot down the UA flight in Pennsylvania. Convenient locale. Minimized collateral damage.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 10:48:35 (EDT)

My two cents are: I blame this wagging the dog tactic on Clinton, who was the first to use it (after Roosevelt). Jim Baker and Karen Hughes couldn't have thought this up all by themselves. I'm just amazed that W went along with greasing so many of his former classmates and party buds. Maybe the guy really is a Texan.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 10:30:04 (EDT)

My two cents are: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1540000/1540044.stm
How the World Trade Center fell
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 10:17:45 (EDT)

My two cents are: Why don't you dog waggin' people move to Egypt or somewhere that your views would be more appreciated: Fellow student Murad went as far as speculating that the United States was behind the attacks, "to find an excuse for the National Missile Defence system" that Bush wants to deploy to protect the United States from so-called rogue states, despite widespread global opposition.
Glint
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 10:13:57 (EDT)

My two cents are: Talk like an Egyptian. This woman would be right at home here with the other enemies of America>&t;> also vented her anger. "We saw the tower crash down. I only wish George Bush and his dear little baby Sharon had been buried in there too." - Polytechnic student Amira Ryad
Glint
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 10:11:24 (EDT)

My two cents are: The thing is, what if this shit wasn't the work of Arab terrorists? What if this is some in-house shit like Oklahoma City? You know, with all my travels, every time, I'm so happy to come back to the US, if for nothing, for the fact that I feel safe, that shit like that doesn't happen here. In a way, the silver lining is that now, we are finally atune to the fact that we're not indestructible, nor are we Teflon- nor Kevlar-coated. We are vulnerable, and we can't go around shitting on everyone with absolutely no consequences.
Whatever
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 09:40:14 (EDT)

My two cents are: When did the cavalry arrive?
Whatever
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 09:37:40 (EDT)

My two cents are: But really, Shrubbie can't go around bombing the shit out of everything. Of course, that would be the only equivalent action to this terrorist act, but it would accomplish nothing, other than to cement the notion that we're a bunch of cowboys, and send Shrubbie's presidential approval record spiraling into oblivion, just like his father after the Persian Gulf. Find out who did it first. Most likely, it's some radical faction of the PLO or bin Laden. Give them what they want, pretend like we're crying, oh, boo hoo, you kicked our butts, we're all ass out, you totally screwed us, and as they're dancing in the streets, blanket their asses with a cloud of napalm.
Whatever
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 09:36:57 (EDT)

My two cents are: To 9:25:54 - the calvary DID arrive, DOD and the Air Force just won't acknowledge it. Wise decision. Saved lots of lives. And took out 3 - 5 of those Arab cocksuckers.
an America
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 09:36:16 (EDT)

My two cents are: No dude, cell phones work on planes, just that they supposedly mess up the radar or sonar or their communication with Air Traffic Control. How the hell Air Traffic Control could just "lose" an airplane is beyond me. They should have shot those planes down over the ocean or in the East River. And I still refuse to believe that three dudes with knives alone could take over a plane. Well, they must have sent the best terrorists in the planes to the World Trade, sent the second string to the Pentagon and third string to what would have been the White House or the Capitol.
Whatever
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 09:33:55 (EDT)

My two cents are: Oh yeah, wasn't anyone I know. Now I'm hearing about the madness in VA. It was just like the gridlock out here. I went to my friend's house after they let me out of work, to watch the footage. Her house, fortunately, was in the opposite direction of the traffic. Anyway, as I was driving, there was a literal wall of cars. If I had to turn back, what would have been a 10 minute drive would have taken at least 2 hours. It was surreal. Whoever was posting yesterday about the slackers at Logan are not playing. They let anyone in without any regard. I remember being surprised about the ease with which I could get back into the gate area. Don't even have to show a ticket anymore. Hell, I actually offer to give the people at the counter my ID, they don't even ask anymore. I feel so bad for Arabian people going to work today. There were two, leaving my apartment building as I was pulling off to go to work, turbans and all. I eyed them suspiciously, and they eyed me back.
Whatever
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 09:30:42 (EDT)

My two cents are: I guess the capitalist airlines' myth that cell phones won't work on planes was uncovered yesterday. Where's Morley or Ed or Mike Wallace when you need them?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 09:30:09 (EDT)

My two cents are: that plane would have crashed into the White House or the Capital. Curious to hear what the little black box says.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 09:26:40 (EDT)

My two cents are: What went wrong was all the passengers snarled up 911 with simultaneous cell phone calls, so the cavalry never arrived.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 09:25:54 (EDT)

My two cents are: One good man with a knife and a belief in Allah can beat fifty men with cell phones, cable television service, and a membership in Weight Watchers. They're testing not only our resolve but our natural reluctance to unfasten our seat belts.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 09:23:47 (EDT)

My two cents are: Remind me not to get on your bad side o.k., Coppertone? And if I ever do, please don't invite me for dinner. ;-) I've heard 2nd or 3rd hand accounts of the clients' employees telephoning business contacts who they know were working in the top floors of one of the towers and being told that most everybody in the office is dead and that the rest are getting burned alive. Mighty awesome stuff. Did you check out my post from yesterday at 10:37:17? Hope everyone you know is o.k.
Glint
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 09:21:42 (EDT)

My two cents are: And can we talk about this unsafe-ass airport I've been flying out of all this time? I took that flight, from Boston to LA, in March, on our way to Las Vegas. You mean to tell me that, had we postponed our trip until now, that we could have been on that plane? Could you imagine being on that shit? And how did they overpower the whole plane armed only with knives? I mean, guns, I could understand. I figured they must have shot the pilot and taken over the plane, but knives? You can overpower any assailant with a knife. They had to have had guns. That would be ridiculous, that they could have taken over the plane and all those people with mere knives. The folks who crashed near Pittsburgh, every last one of them should receive a posthumous Purple Heart. Lord knows where that plane would have crashed.
Whatever
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 09:16:06 (EDT)

My two cents are: I really don't know what we're doing here at work today. Yeah, yeah, we have to show solidarity and all that, but let's keep it real, we got our asses kicked!! Yesterday was a nightmare. I couldn't get in contact with my parents or my boyfriend, all of whom were in NYC. My boyfriend went down there yesterday early to get his passport. I couldn't find my other friends, my friends here couldn't find their friends there. The stories I've heard are my friend's uncles calling their wives telling them goodbye, my friends walking home from their offices, people covered in soot walking in a daze alone with them, this guy from our church, who's a limo driver, delivered two people to their deaths, and got out of there in the nick of time. I started hyperventilating yesterday. I can't believe these bastards took out the Twin Towers. I grew up in their shadow, and now, they don't exist? It's hard to stomach. Anyway, my father's been preaching about how something terrible happens every 2,000 years, and we were about due. Not to mention, the Nostradamus predictions, how he said that the Anti-Christ would be an Arab. Ain't that some shit?
Whatever
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 09:00:26 (EDT)

My two cents are: OK guys, here's the deal. The whole reason for this massacre is that the towel-heads have been fucked with too many times. They can't get back their land, thanks to American-backed efforts. We think we're the infalliable giants, and we happen to step on plenty of people all the time, but we just don't notice. We've enraged them to the point that they're willing to give their own lives and thousands of others to bring attention to the injustice that America serves up on these people constantly. I understand that we've destroyed and pissed off too many people, who we haven't taken seriously before, but must now. I respect whoever coordinated this massacre. So, what do we do about it? We give the Palestinians back a portion of land, completely for them, say we've conceded, they're right, we're jerks. So, while they're so happy that they're doing the Dance of Joy in the rubble-ridden streets of the new Palestine, we bomb the shit out of them. Have you land, fuckers, at least, what will be left of it. What do you think about that?
Whatever
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 08:55:36 (EDT)

My two cents are: My day has been hell so far since I discovered that the client's data feed for stock quotes, both domestic and international, has gone down. Nothing but goose eggs coming down. Suppose this means that the server was either located at the WTC or in the immediate vicinity which has the juice turned off. Just got back from a small briefing, about six people in the room. Client is reporting off the record six "confirmed" dead in one of the WTC towers. I didn't know any of them; however, they were technical personnel -- not stock brokers or money managers. Client believes there are about 20 employees who are missing. Guess I'll cease complaining about my day.
Glint
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 08:25:32 (EDT)

My two cents are: I'll go along with Krautland if budget permits, but not until Oktoberfest is over.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 08:16:40 (EDT)

My two cents are: It's been over fifty years since we leveled Germany. Maybe we could tamp them down a little bit as long as we're set up for it.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 08:13:04 (EDT)

My two cents are: France is a given. Didn't think it even needed to be mentioned. Good idea on Paraguay. In fact, we should take out all of central and south america and solve the coke problem while we're at it. I would also recommend eliminating Mexico, but we do need domestics and landscapers.
an American
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 08:07:10 (EDT)

My two cents are: Bullshit. The country to hit first is France. If we could surgically take out the Academie Fran�aise, the Arab states would fall like so many rotten figs. We've taken enough guff from these supercilious punks, and it's time to strike.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 08:00:22 (EDT)

My two cents are: It would simplify hemispheric relations if we could take out Paraguay at the same time, an American. Would you consider putting that rat-hole on the list?
interested in SA
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 07:55:14 (EDT)

My two cents are: George can't be a pussy now. He needs to blow the fuck out of all those motherfucking raghead cocksuckers who can even spell America. Afghanistan - LEVELED. Iran - TOAST. Iraq - GONE. May as well take out Syria and that wig wearing cunt Kafuckindaffi.
an American
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 07:50:29 (EDT)

My two cents are: Colin Powell said that any country implicated in flying the airplanes into our stockbrokers is going to find that it is impossible to have a friendly relationship with America. That will bring them to their knees quick. This is going to be a piece of cake. I predict that not one single American who joined the Army to be the best that he or she could be and to get the tuition benefits will have to die face-down in the mud of Afghanistan.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 07:13:41 (EDT)

My two cents are: That's right, keep the pressure on. No flagging, no waffling. We've got to treat this guy the way he treats us. What do they think, America is a country of panty-waists that they can engourd our sacred ground? Phaugh! And do we still have operational B-52's? Oh, sure, throw down the peace offer now, when our blood is up, apologise, turn off the light after a summer of encroaching gourd horror. Shit, they postponed the Madonna concert, they postponed the Big 10 games, the fucking postponed professional baseball! What about the home run-a-thon? They fucked with the country's hitting streaks. This smells increasingly of the French. Maybe we should lob a few cruise missiles into Rambouillet and see if they cry uncle the way they did in 1940.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 07:08:34 (EDT)

My two cents are: Then, along about 10:15 p.m. or so, Gourdon's mercury vapor light suddenly went out. I wondered what was going on. Sneak attack? I've seen it short out when it rains but last night was clear, calm, and steady out. Was he following the lead of the Empire State Building by turning lights out in mourning for the victims? Did he snip my light pollution screed out of the Sunday paper and find a friend who could read it to him? Or perhaps it's an olive branch. The latter is possible. I normally roll out the telescope just after sunset, about 2 hours before use, so that it can reach thermal equilibrium at the ambient temperature. Maybe he saw it sitting out there and decided now was the perfrect opportunity for him to show a little consideration for once. Perhaps he flipped it off because he wants me to stop mowing his trespassing tendrilous gourds. Maybe the right thing for me to do is reciprocate by sparing the gourds next time I'm out defoliating the patch with the Deere. After all, this is the ripening season for gourds and they're probably getting all fat and pulpy. If I leave them alone just maybe he'll leave his light off for good. But what happens after the Fall harvest, when the gourds are all safely tucked away drying in the shed and the leaves fall off the only tree that provides some meager shade from the menacing blue sun? Then what? On second thought, it's probably best just to continue whacking on the stupid gourds.
Glint
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 05:57:06 (EDT)

My two cents are: Last night Anonymous asked, "Where the hell is Glint?" I was out with the light bucket, seeing what it was like to look up at a sky not filled with planes. Ususually they're all lined up like ants. There's a line heading climbing north out of Washington and/or Dulles, and another clan of planes descending toward Baltimore in the east. About a mile from our older house there was a navigation beacon sitting in a field that looked like a bowling pin. Look up during the day and the contrails always made a bend overhead.
Glint
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 05:46:10 (EDT)

My two cents are: *Stupid, sadly enough, can't tell a yurt from a gerbil. Probably right now readying top secret plans to bomb Pets 'R Us.
where's a missile shield when you really need it
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 05:44:48 (EDT)

My two cents are: Good Morning, Coppertone. I agree, we need to target not only the perps for yesterday's actions, but strike terrorists of any ilk and particularly their sponsors. <> In a broadband e-mail message, the client says, "We are all shocked and saddened by the disaster at the World Trade Center, which directly impacted many of our employees and our customers. We are working diligently on all levels to confirm the safety of our employees and manage through this crisis. Below is summarized what we know and the plans we have made so far..." It goes on to say that there are several hundred employees at the WTC and MOST are known to be safe and that all buildings in the downtown financial district area are closed today including four of client's other offices.
Glint
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 05:27:52 (EDT)

My two cents are: Just heard on NPR that there was a fire truck on the scene at the Pentagon plane crash from Lincoln, NE. Go Cornhuskers!
Glint
- Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 05:21:06 (EDT)

My two cents are: This thing had to be orchestrated by a major power, maybe Iraq, maybe Afghanistan, maybe France. I mean, look at the logistics! At least 12 guys were involved, and they had to know how to read airline schedules. We've got to bomb the shit out of Afghanistan and Iraq and teach these punks that they can't get away with crap like this.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 22:58:26 (EDT)

My two cents are: The President is no leader at all if he doesn't bomb every yurt in Afghanistan. Then he can send the new army of Glints in on foot to hold the Mujahadeen down. They fuck with us, we fuck with them, it's that simple. This never would have happened to begin with if choir-boy Carter hadn't made it illegal to assassinate people we think might steal airplanes and dive them into skyscrapers. It's getting to seem as if every time we want to bomb a Chinese embassy we have to pretend it was because our AAA maps were out of date.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 22:54:58 (EDT)

My two cents are: It's just one step to the next, anonymous. First you do something faintly within comprehension such as, say, misuse the civil courts in an attempt to delegitimize a presidency. With that under your belt, and more experience with lying about everything from the import of blow jobs to who actually would benefit from a tax cut, you have few moral qualms about enlisting a US Supreme Court political majority as part of your campaign machinery, and manipulating election results to subvert the actual vote. From there you only have to choose among a million fanatical right-wing paranoids to find the handful best equipped to commandeer a few jetliners and fly them into buildings. The sad thing is that the Bush people had to resort to this trick less than a year into the false administration. They either sensed that they were losing their grip, or they were unsatisfied with the grip a mere President has, or they were simply crazy and drunk with the first sips of power. Let us hope that there are a few honorable men and women involved in this, who still have a capacity for shame, and who will be moved to act in defense of Democracy.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 21:22:09 (EDT)

My two cents are: When Clinton used to wag the dog at least he did it with foreigners' lives. It took the Republicans to do it with our own citizens, and not just poor folks either but plenty of rich guys. The World Trade Center and the Pentagon were full of Republicans, and they were sacrificed for Bush's election hopes in '04. Sad, really.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 20:23:45 (EDT)

My two cents are: I'm a New York City fireman. What I do for a living is run up and stand next to steel-frame sky-scrapers and wait while the steel about half-way up gets hot enough to bend under the weight of the floors above.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 20:02:05 (EDT)

My two cents are: The goddamn president* makes his Churchill at the Ramparts speech and makes a big point about opening the federal offices tomorrow. Damn! I was planning a few rounds of golf. This is the guy who spent all day hiding under his desk, and just because Hillary is getting face time he's got to jump up and send federal bureaucrats in the hinterlands into harm's way to show "continuity of government." As Glint learned from the wise men sharing a plug of Red Man in the cornshucking shed, all that's going to mean is a bunch of easy money dudes leaning on shovels. Hey, give the troops a break, Snippy, and we won't feel so disgusted when we have to walk past your ugly mugshot in the lobby, and the one of Dick Cheney that some GSA wag hung about a half-inch higher.
Anonymous Fed
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 19:59:27 (EDT)

My two cents are: Where the hell is Glint? Probably down at the Army recruiting office trying to pretend his piles don't bother him much. Enlisting in the war, the way any patriotic American would on Pearl Harbor Day. Basic training ought to be a dream for a man who believes in football coaches.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 19:16:56 (EDT)

My two cents are: Checked out the talking heads, and they are all by God talking about Pearl Harbor, Snippy mumbling at a joint session of Congress, a long and bitter twilight struggle with the forces of evil, the whole nine yards. What the fuck? Is this some sort of mass psychosis? Like, we got these Dominicans in charge of keeping irate camel-drivers off the airplanes, this wasn't supposed to happen. Fire the splibs, hire some English-speaking Burns Detective Agency dudes and maybe a few warranted overseers, tune up the metal detectors, and the problem is solved. Ever taken a flight from Europe recently? They question everyone for ten or fifteen minutes, where you been, why, what did you see, did you like it, beading in on your shifty eyes. In Boston you walk past a bunch of Carribean bongo-drummers leaning on the X-ray machine yapping back and forth in creole about who they screwed last night and what drugs they used to heighten the experience. Shit, back when the Cubans started this sky-jacking business we had the Sky Marshals for a while, tough guys with guns on every plane, it would work wonders if everybody who tried to fly an airplane into a trade center got shot in the back. Pearl Harbor my ass. Snippy had better find a better dog to wag if he wants better results in the off-year elections.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 19:13:38 (EDT)

My two cents are: It's true. Snippy SO needed this tragedy to overset the stone fact that he's singlehandedly ruined the once-burgeoning economy. Wag that dog Snippy. Wag it gooood.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 18:27:58 (EDT)

My two cents are: The speculation on this site is silly. The only outfit with the means to pull this thing off is the Republican National Committee. Ever hear of dirty tricks? This is a page from Clinton's Kosovo book, wag the dog come home to roost. Snippy is about to go light on the SS trust fund, and he needed to distract attention from it. Jim Baker came up with this way to distract attention and get an excuse for dipping into the fund at the same time. It is SO obvious.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 17:44:42 (EDT)

My two cents are: No way, Tom. The ticketing is all electronic now and you never stop at a counter unless you want to check your bombs through to Zagreb. You have to go through security, but the guards are hired by the airlines and make six bucks an hour, no benefits, so they're all Dominicans and Senegalese who couldn't get jobs driving taxis. Most of them can't speak English, and the rest are blind in one eye. These guys could have been Ceylonese or pig-Irish or a Southern Baptist splinter group, the Columbine High School Aeronautics Club, anything. They'll never catch them.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 17:40:43 (EDT)

My two cents are: There might be some videos of people getting on board, interviews with ticket agents, etc. Primarily, anyone with sand on their shoes, or wearing sandals. Bearded bean colored camel jocks with a diaper on their heads or even a fez. Passengers hanging around the lounge munching on figs, talking to people named Achnad. It's easy to tell who they are.
Tom
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 17:32:03 (EDT)

My two cents are: What if the sand niggers were using phoney names? We might fry the wrong yurt.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 17:24:58 (EDT)

My two cents are: Any politician showing on the streets today didn't have to muscle up to no camera, by the way. The newshounds were so short of talking heads that they were interviewing assholes in the street about what they thought when they heard the big bang.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 17:23:13 (EDT)

My two cents are: We won't catch the pilots because they cooked themselves in the crashes. But the place to start is by looking at the passenger lists, looking for sand niggers with last names sounding like Huckalucka. Then go in for a flyover riding a cloud of napalm.
Tom
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 17:22:39 (EDT)

My two cents are: Well, Tom, George W.'s first instinct when it comes to advantage for himself is to run and hide. Remember the Viet Nam war? First he ran and hid in the Texas Air Force, and that was still too exposed so he went AWOL. The guy feels safe only if he's somewhere where he has HBO, loose shoes, a warm place to shit, and Karen Hughes's four-inch clitoris to suck on like a lollipop. Don't worry, he'll come out into public again, the same as he eventually did after the supreme court chose him.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 17:20:59 (EDT)

My two cents are: Where has George Bush been? At a time like this he needs to be out in front of the cameras using the horrible events of today to his advantage. But where is he? In Omaha of all places! At least Chuck Schumer and Hillary Clinton did the smart thing to do by going to the Pentagon where the cameras were. They muscled their way in front of the cameras as the Pentagon burned behind them and took turns telling America what an outrage this has been. Nothing wrong with that. Get out on camera and don't be taking evasive maneuvers behind the scenes. I hope some American voters were watching.
Tom
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 17:08:59 (EDT)

My two cents are: What if we can't catch them?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 17:08:27 (EDT)

My two cents are: Damn, what's going on in this country? We've got fucking rug-pilots hijacking airplanes and murdering thousands of innnocent people. When we catch them we need to chop off their hands before killing each and every Habibi son of a bitch. Then bury them with pig dicks in their asses and mouths. I don't know for sure if the dune coons are behind this or not but if they are then look out. However, if like with Oklahoma City, it turns out to be the work of peckerwoods, they should get a free ride on old sparky. Doesn't matter who or what did it as long as they pay.
Tom
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 16:57:10 (EDT)

My two cents are: It helps if the refs are rooting for you, too.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 16:45:37 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sometimes pretending to win is just as good as winning. If you do it long enough and with enough conviction, sometimes the guy who really did win gets worn out and goes away.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 16:43:59 (EDT)

My two cents are: The little guy may not the silver-tongued orator of the Platte, but I am confident that he'll bark out the winning signals when it's late in the fourth quarter, fourth down and goal to go. We gonna fake the screen, drop back, and boot this here Osama Been Laid right between the goal-posts. Meanwhile little George is gonna be barking those signals to the alumni in the stands and to the kids holding the cards and it's gonna be a thing of beauty. The GOP is going to win yet another one for the actor who pretended to be the Gipper in the movie-show.
Rep. Coach Tom (R-NE)
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 16:41:51 (EDT)

My two cents are: Shrub: "Hunt down the folks who committed these acts."
Don't you think "folks" is being a bit too harsh?
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 15:04:45 (EDT)

My two cents are: Is the 'Huskers game still on? We're on a roll, dammit!
Rep. Coach Tom (R-NE)
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 14:44:40 (EDT)

My two cents are: Karen Huges says: "The resolve of our great nation is being tested." Maybe it sounded better on paper.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 14:43:18 (EDT)

My two cents are: Somehow I feel relieved that the little moron is still alive. As long as he doesn't move in next door to me.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 14:39:03 (EDT)

My two cents are: Strait is the Gate, oh my President*. Guide us with the remarkable Bush family competence hand through the dangerous shoals tonight, your experienced hand firmly grasping the tiller. Before turning it either way, be sure to check with Karen Hughes. Call your mom.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 14:37:41 (EDT)

My two cents are: He probably said, "is it not written in the holy of holies that the mighty son of the lion feels the prick of the thorn just as surely as the mouse? For even the clean may feel the sorrows of the unclean, or children of America led into sins of the flesh of thy faithless land, when the unclean is erased from the swamp where it abideth," or something like that. The Associated Press translators probably added the words that offend Glint.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 14:33:19 (EDT)

My two cents are: Rest easy there, Glint, big fella. It is doubtful that Mullah Abdul Salam Zaeef, the Taliban ambassador to Pakistan actually said he feels our pain. At least not if he was talking in Afghanese.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 14:23:03 (EDT)

My two cents are: All clear oh captain my captain. Come on out and tell us the game plan. Persue them to the ends of the earth and make them pay?
Rep. Coach Tom (R-NE)
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 14:17:42 (EDT)

My two cents are: Is it safe to come out?
President* Earlip
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 14:14:24 (EDT)

My two cents are: I concur, Senator Rube. It is a day that will live in Infamy. We got to go over and stomp them Germans, except no American boys from the heartland must be sent. We'll show them. We'll win this one for the Gipper.
Rep. Coach Tom (R-NE)
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 14:13:08 (EDT)

My two cents are: I heered of that there Pearl Harbor. Some sort of disgruntled foreigners blew up some government ships out in the American Ocean somewheres along about the 1930's or so. There was a lot of airplanes flying around and I think Ben Afleck or somebody got a medal for catching the bad guys. Now they gone and done it again, though this time right here in the Big Apple. It was worse than anything on Jerry Springer, and I don't think that I overstate it.
Senator Rube (R-NE)
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 14:10:24 (EDT)

My two cents are: This is the second time the 'Huskers lost the coin toss to Notre Dame. I don�t think that I overstate it.
Coach Tom
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 14:05:34 (EDT)

My two cents are: Coach Tom will not only concur, he will volunteer to wear the dunce cap half the time.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 13:36:59 (EDT)

My two cents are: The only problem with the Chuck Hagel analysis is that flying hijacked airliners into office buildings and the Pentagon because you're pissed off about something has about zero to do with Pearl Harbor. Can you spell apples and oranged, Senator Chuck? Where are you from, anyway, some rube state out west? If you'd bother to learn a little history and logic, you would realize that this is the second time Woodrow Wilson started World War I. So long, and don't overstate anything. Much better to miss the point entirely.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 13:35:56 (EDT)

My two cents are: �This is the second Pearl Harbor. I don�t think that I overstate it� -- Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE) <<< I'm sure coach Tom will concur with that.
Glint
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 13:29:27 (EDT)

My two cents are: ....Still, they haven't apologized for taking over the U.S. Embassy and kidnapping American hostages, so should be attacked!
Glint
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 13:25:10 (EDT)

My two cents are: Iranian President Mohammad Khatami on Tuesday condemned the kamikaze "terrorist" attacks in the United States and expressed his deep sorrow and sympathy with the American nation. "On behalf of the Iranian government and the nation, I condemn the hijacking attempts and terrorist attacks on public centers in American cities which have killed a large number of innocent people," President Khatami said in reaction to the worst attack on American soil since Pearl Harbor. <<< Alright. They didn't claim or deny responsibility and did not couch their condolences with Clintonesque sound bites. So far so good.
Glint
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 13:23:36 (EDT)

My two cents are: Air Force One landed in the afternoon near Omaha, Neb., at Offutt Air Force Base, headquarters of the Strategic Air Command. �The president wants to return to Washington as quickly as possible,� White House spokesman Scott McClellan said. �He arrived in Nebraska as a security precaution. He will convene a meeting of the National Security Council via teleconference from the Air Force Base.� <<<< I'm glad the Dubya didn't wait until the last month of his 8 year term to visit the Cornhusker state like his sink jerking predecessor.
Glint
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 13:17:46 (EDT)

My two cents are: This horrible incident is proof positive that we need Star Wars NOW.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 13:05:23 (EDT)

My two cents are: Better her than Junior. Just stay under that desk, kid. Cheney will tell you when it's safe to come out.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 13:04:08 (EDT)

My two cents are: Everything's OK. Karen Hughes says she's in charge.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 13:00:11 (EDT)

My two cents are: Where is Snippy? Hiding under a desk? His star-wars scheme surely would have prevented all this death and chaos!
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 12:57:15 (EDT)

My two cents are: I get paid by the hour, so what I do, at the end of the day I estimate the time I spent on the net and deduct it from my wage claim. No, no, don't treat me sith any special respect.... this is the virtue expected of a Republican.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 12:50:48 (EDT)

My two cents are: Bin Laden? Maybe. Maybe Tim McVeigh's disappeared other partners with their good old American know-how.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 12:50:24 (EDT)

My two cents are: Everything's OK. The President is in a bunker and Dan Quayle is on MSNBC.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 12:45:32 (EDT)

My two cents are: Yeah, that always frost me, the way those guys always lean on their shovels while I'm hard at work searching Drudge for good cut and paste material.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 12:40:29 (EDT)

My two cents are: I knew that the silver lining of this tragedy would be the reuninion of all the old stalwarts to this site. Especially since the Gov't is sending them home early today so they can loaf in comfort.
Glint
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 12:36:20 (EDT)

My two cents are: There were forty or fifty thousand Republican stockbrokers in the World Trade Center. The core of America's greatness, wiped out with a couple of airliners. If we had been attending to business, we would have built those towers so they could take an airplane or two without imploding. Back during WWII a B-25 flew into the Empire State Building and people on the 30the floor didn't even hear it. American structural engineers built for durability back in those days.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 12:18:07 (EDT)

My two cents are: Where is Greenspan? Does he have adequate protection? They'd better get him to an army base or an an aircraft carrier quick. Any place that has good anti-aircraft cover. These suicidal Arabs are trying to fuck with the interest rates.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 12:14:44 (EDT)

My two cents are: We're OK. President Bush has a big belt buckle, just like John Wayne, and a pair of bright yellow work gloves. President Bush will protect us. He will not only protect us, he will pursue these cowardly camel-drivers to the ends of the earth and put a hurt on them they won't soon forget. If it takes the whole damn Social Security Trust Fund.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 12:12:19 (EDT)

My two cents are: It was Cliton who invented this tactic, in Bosnia and in Kosovo, and his chickens have now come home to roost in the GOP hen-house. The Bush numbers are going to go through the roof, unless Sun Myung Moon happened to be part of the collateral damage. Bush didn't mangle a single word in his announcement that he, like Al Haig before him, was in control, only stuttered a bit and switched some syllables around. It's all about expectations, the same as in the debates with the Vice-President back during the campaign. Most Americans probably figured that Snippy would scream that we're all going to be killed, and dive under the desk. His emergence as a stern figure largely in control of his natural panic, vowing to punish these perps, in fair control of the tendency to skid off into the falsetto range, is going to endear him to the hearts of vengeance-seeking wild-eyed hillbillies and hillbilly equivalents throughout America.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 12:09:05 (EDT)

My two cents are: It appears to me that the President* has been surprised by this. It is probable that Jim Baker decided not to let him know about it until the airliners were already commandeered and there was no turning back. Maybe figured he lacked the gut and might have gone AWOL the way he did back when the Hondurans were poised to invade Texas, or that he would start hitting the bottle again.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 12:01:43 (EDT)

My two cents are: I wasn't on the Linda Tripp site in the early glory days of Curt, so seeing Glint lathered up like this is something new. The rock-hard little html-tagger is ready to take names and kick asses, probably listening to Metallica through his phones. Meantime President* Snippy has calmed the rest of the nation with the assertion that he is at the helm, in contact with Vice-President Cheney and Alan Greenspan, and ready to track the dastardly perpetrators of this cowardly act to the ends of the earth and punish them. He sounds eerily like a third-grader caught with sticking needles in the puppy and explaining to his mom that he really wasn't doing it. The man is going to have to learn to lie better if he's ever going to be Emperor.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 11:57:04 (EDT)

My two cents are: I hadn't thought of the Jimmy Carter angle. So HE'S the guy responsible for this. Is he within range of our cruise missiles?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 11:51:54 (EDT)

My two cents are: AMEN, brother! >>> "Second, the president must, at long last, undo the idiotic Executive Order forbidding assassinations, that pious piece of paper from smug Jimmy Carter that has hamstrung our counterterrorist efforts lo these many years. If we identify the commanders of this operation, they should be killed. If we identify a regime that supported it, it must be destroyed, removed from power, and held up as an example to anyone else who dares think along similar lines." -- Michael Ledeen
Glint
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 11:22:36 (EDT)

My two cents are: Pity Colin Powell. What can he do after being cut off at the knees by the administration.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 11:21:37 (EDT)

My two cents are: Thank you Bill Clinton for firing Linda Tripp and keeping her safe from the terrorist attacks of today. Amen.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 11:07:11 (EDT)

My two cents are: Is this guy anybody we know, or anybody that we know knows? >>> ..... Clyde Ebanks, vice president of an insurance company, was at a meeting on the 103rd floor of the South Tower of the World Trade Center when his boss said, "Look at that!" He turned and through a window saw a plane go by and hit the other building. It was 8:50 and sunlight was streaming though the windows on the 47th floor of the trade center. And then, "I just heard the building rock. It knocked me on the floor. It sounded like a big roar, then the building started swaying, that's what really scared me."
Glint
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 10:37:17 (EDT)

My two cents are: On second thought, anyone using "Clintonesque" phrases like "feel your pain" to express condolences should be attacked!
Glint
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 10:34:34 (EDT)

My two cents are: Mullah Abdul Salam Zaeef, the Taliban ambassador to Pakistan, said in reaction to the news of the terror attacks that "we want to tell the American children that Afghanistan feels your pain and we hope that the courts find justice." <<< That's not an explicit denial. Guess he's o.k.
Glint
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 10:33:12 (EDT)

My two cents are: Here's another, but older, possible link ---> On Sept. 11, 1922, a British mandate was proclaimed in Palestine, despite Arab protests. It lasted until 1948, after the United Nations authorized a partition of the territory and the state of Israel was established.
Glint
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 10:25:40 (EDT)

My two cents are: Any group explicitely denying responsibility for this action should be attacked.
Glint
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 10:13:37 (EDT)

My two cents are: I just heard via the Washington Post that they closed Knotts Berry Farm. You Californians are worse than the Marylanders.
Glint
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 10:11:38 (EDT)

My two cents are: Afghan Taliban Say Bin Laden Not Behind U.S. Attacks KABUL (Reuters) - A spokesman for Afghanistan ruling Taliban said on Tuesday that Saudi dissident Osama bin Laden could not be responsible for a spate of terror attacks in the United States. ``What happened in the United States was not a job of ordinary people. It could have been the work of governments. Osama bin Laden cannot do this work, neither us,'' Abdul Hai Mutmaen told Reuters from the southern city of Kandahar. ``We are not supporting terrorism. Osama does not have the capability. We condemn this. ``This could have been the act of either internal enemies of the United States or its major rivals. Osama cannot do this work ...,'' he added.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 10:05:17 (EDT)

My two cents are: Well, my client has closed shop here in Maryland for the day. Typical Maryland reaction, like closing schools when there's a dusting of snow forecast. Unfortunately, I'm paid by the hour so I'm going to stay here and keep the company afloat. Especially after receiving a wide scatter e-mail from the client saying that their facilities at at the World Trade Center in Manhattan has closed but that all other offices, including those in Manhattan, shall remain open.
Glint
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 10:04:28 (EDT)

My two cents are: Could this be why? Drudge --> "REPORT: Plane was headed to Camp David. Anniversary of Camp David Accord Sept 5-17, 1978..." <>> Any group claiming responsibility should be attaacked whether or not they were actively involved. Just wipe 'em out.
Glint
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 09:57:39 (EDT)

My two cents are: On the other hand, it's funny that this happened right after Pete disappeared on "vacation."
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 09:26:03 (EDT)

My two cents are: I think this is the work of Casper Weinburger. Never did trust that guy.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 09:24:40 (EDT)

My two cents are: Well, they closed down my place of work and sent me home on the taxpayer dime. Guess I'll have to stay here all day trying to figure out which tail is wagging which dog here. Whatever saying that they didn't hit Harlem is food for thought. except that Clinton is in Copacabana buying thongs for unnamed interns. Is Clinton orchestrating this whole thing and trying to make it look as if it's only the Bush family wagging the dog? I notice Hillary wasn't anywhere near the World Trade Center this morning.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 09:23:32 (EDT)

My two cents are: http://kinya.com/view.html
Glint
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 09:20:58 (EDT)

My two cents are: Glint is absolutely right. We've got to develop a missile shield capable of shooting down domestic air traffic. Also, think of the hundreds of stock brokerages wiped out in the World Trade Center. These companies will have to be indemnified, and it might take the whole Social Security Trust Fund. If only the golem were here to issue an open letter on the ramifications.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 09:19:35 (EDT)

My two cents are: Thanksfully I haven't heard of any casualties at or near the Great Prairie Tower: http://www.starcitymall.com/webcam/
Glint
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 09:18:20 (EDT)

My two cents are: I wonder why Powell felt the need to say that the Bush wag-the-dog strategy will "not affect the nature of our society?" Is he trying to forestall martial law and an attempt by the Bush clan to install themselves as hereditary dictators in the manner of Papa Doc and Baby Doc Duvalier? Stay tuned.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 09:15:09 (EDT)

My two cents are: Were any of those Kamikaze airliners en route from Nairobi?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 09:11:32 (EDT)

My two cents are: As an independent, I'm disturbed that President* Bush has adopted the wag-the-dog tactics of Bill Clinton. Is he going to do this every time there is a slight dip in his poll numbers?
House of Meat
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 09:10:48 (EDT)

My two cents are: ``A great tragedy has struck our country and it will not affect the nature of our society. We'll find out who's responsible for this and bring them to justice.'' -- Secretary of State Colin L. Powell, speaking at a meeting of the Organization of American States in Lima, Peru prior to cutting short what was to have been a two-day visitHe took no questions and returning to Washington.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 09:04:55 (EDT)

My two cents are: "...Israel, he noted, had already envisioned the possibility of an air attack, and shot down a small plane that took off from Lebanon in May after it flew menacingly into Israeli airspace...." Not to sound hysterical, but I feel that the congress needs to give the President the authority, at least temporarily, to target terrorists for extermination. Israel is on the right track by not dicking around with them and hitting them where they live and work. It's War.
Glint
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 08:26:17 (EDT)

My two cents are: Probably referring to a "feel good" war, played at the away team's stadium. This is nothing of the sort.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 08:23:32 (EDT)

My two cents are: "The Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine has claimed responsibility for the attacks on the World Trade Center, according to the BBC and Abu Dhabi television. However, DFLP sources have denied any involvement. . It is unclear who is responsible for today's apparent terrorist attack on the World Trade Center in New York, but it is unlikely that Palestinian groups are involved, said an expert on international terrorism...." - Jerusalem Post
Glint
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 08:20:47 (EDT)

My two cents are: "...Now all [Prsident Bush] needs is a recession or a war, and he's home free" - Anonymous@16:56:53. Does this count?
Glint
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 08:17:43 (EDT)

My two cents are: Ironically, Rumsfeld had just called for a 15% reduction in staffing at Pentagon headquarters.
Glint
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 08:13:13 (EDT)

My two cents are: Bet Shrubbie wishes he had that $300/taxpayer back!!!
Whatever
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 08:11:42 (EDT)

My two cents are: It was the Palestinians, and bin Laden. Collaborative effort. One organization couldn't have done all this. It wasn't necessarily the PLO, but a Palestinian liberation organization, I can't remember the acronym.
Whatever
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 08:10:47 (EDT)

My two cents are: President's defense spending shouldn't have much trouble getting through now.
Glint
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 08:04:24 (EDT)

My two cents are: Doubt if it was the Palestinians. Not unless they've had help. They couldn't punch their way out of a wet paper bag no matter how many rocks and punks they had.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 07:50:56 (EDT)

My two cents are: Fornigate is under attack. A plane has narrowly missed John's grave by several hundred yards and hit the Pentagon!
Glint
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 07:44:59 (EDT)

My two cents are: I can't believe you guys thought you could play with the Palestinians. At least Clinton was trying to deal with both parties as equals. That's why they didn't bomb Harlem, when they easily could have, because he was trying to do the right thing in office. Now, you got this schmuck playing Tiddlywinks with alligators, and now folks are pissed off because the alligators are biting everyone to bits. // Oh, just heard the Capitol wasn't bombed, thank God.
Whatever
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 07:37:43 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sept. 11, 1990 - U.S. President Bush vowed "Saddam Hussein will fail" while addressing Congress on the Persian Gulf crisis.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 07:33:39 (EDT)

My two cents are: Now, the Capitol in London has either been evacuated or hit, and Chicago, the same?! My God, people, this is pandemonium!! I TOLD you right-wing bastards to take the Palestinians seriously!! But nooooooo, you think you can play with the Palestinians all you want to. This is ALL your boy Powell's fault. Shrubbie will suffer HEAVY losses as a result of this. You think he won't? HAH!! He already has.
Whatever
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 07:32:26 (EDT)

My two cents are: Oh shit guys!! 2 planes crashed into the World Trade, 3 or so into the Pentagon, one into the Federal Reserve or something near the White House, and NOW, an explosion in the Capitol?!?! We're under SIEGE!! I have goosebumps. I thought they had said it was Bin Laden, but it might be the PLO. Sure hope not, because that would be a bad, bad move. They better pray to Allah that we don't blow every last one of them off the map. They KNOW Shrubbie is trigger-happy!
Whatever
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 07:23:47 (EDT)

My two cents are: So, Glint, you are arguing that the Florida courts have no authority to consider the malfeasance of Florida executives? A novel theory, and not particularly conservative. Unmentioned in the paper issuing from the US Supreme Courts meddling. On the other hand, it certainly was a travesty to subject the heir apparent to the actual results of an election.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 07:06:38 (EDT)

My two cents are: Well, New York's under attack. Last time something like this happened it turned out to be the work of Americans in OKC. All right now, everyone think hard. Today is the anniversary of WHAT!?
Glint
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 06:58:19 (EDT)

My two cents are: That's right, the U.S. Supreme Court had to step in becuase the Florida Supreme Court was trying to car jack the election which by state law gets certified by the Secretary of State. The U.S. Constitution gives the power of elections to the states, and the Florida State legislature gave authrority to the Executive branch and the Secretary of State. Then the Democrats tried to make an end run by taking it to the courts, who quashed the request. Then they tried to make an even bigger end run around the law by going to the Florida Supreme Court who were unapologetically partisan. It was such a travesty of justice especially with the surgical hand counts in selected counties using vastly different standards. Onc the Florida Supreme Court became involved the whole thing really started to smell. They got a whipping, and they still misbehaved and had to get a second one. <WHACK!> The US Suprememes did the judicial equivalent of yanking the SCOFLAs' foul black robes up over their heads and took turns kicking them in the caboose.
Glint
- Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 06:35:16 (EDT)

My two cents are: The Supreme Court majority did what it was appointed to do. If Florida had ended up sending two slates to the electoral college, and the Governor of Florida had had to choose between them, there was always the chance that the crazy bastard would have risen up on his hind legs and endorsed the one chosen by the citizens rather than the one selected by his family's spin team before the election was over. Faced with that possibility, what else could Rhenquist and his boys and girl do, considering this isn't Russia where they have an independent judiciary that is still not allowed to appoint those who will feed at the trough? Thank God for the court, because we're all $300 richer than we could have been if the votes were counted, except for those of us with fat portfolios, who are all considerably less rich.
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 22:59:46 (EDT)

My two cents are: Today on old Fornigate it was really neat the way crynic came out swinging, adopting the persona of a gruff conservative and everything. The only way it was different from the last time he put on the character of a gruff conservative was that last time he did it because so many of the non-conservatives were dissing Pete� and he felt moved to defend the guy. Pete� was alive at the time, of course, but now that he's dead and even his ghost has flitted off on safari it's impossible to guess exactly why crynic feels the need to pretend to be a gruff conservative. Maybe it's the same thing that motivates him to pretend to be gruffly knowledgeable about the maritime industry, who knows? But the crynic has certainly motivated Glint to make his political views known, so those unfamiliar with them now know he disapproves of the rule of law in Florida, believes that the ramshackle frame hung around Elected President Clinton by the House Former Termite Exterminators' Caucus somehow dishonors him, and looks up to yokel college football administrators. Who would have guessed that about a man at war with a neighbor's garden vines, who patrols his property lines armed with a bottle of piss?
House of Meat
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 22:41:41 (EDT)

My two cents are: You bet that that sheeny cunt, Leona, posts here, Tom. She baits us daily with her tales of humping drunken nightclub doorman behind the clip joints in downtown Philly, and giving the Schuykill tongue-bath to every cabbie from Allentown to Scranton. Check out the yearbook page that Glint has lovingly assembled, and you will see a picture of the set up pig. Some of the best posts on the page emanate from her foul hole.
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 19:03:19 (EDT)

My two cents are: It is true, somebody had to step in when the Florida courts traipsed gaily forward under the misapprehension that administration of elections had been left to the states. It was becoming obvious that these fools were going to go ahead and rule on state election laws, possibly resulting in Florida's sending two slates to the electoral college, a minority slate and a majority slate, forcing the final decision onto the desk of the Governor of Florida. There was no telling which slate that crazy bastard might certify. As the majority wrote in their decision, continuing to count votes could cast a cloud on the legitimacy of future President* Bush and would materially harm his administration. Especially if it turned out that he hadn't been elected, in which case it would harm his presidency even more. The counting obviously had to stop, there was no other way to preserve the legitimacy of the government that might have been voted in if enough people had voted for it. These are tricky questions, crying, and we know you are a busy man with your community and charitable activities and your contemplation of maritime policy, so just stick with Glint and me and we'll pounce as required if you just keep letting out the rope.
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 18:54:25 (EDT)

My two cents are: Must be the other anonymous. Most of my days are spent teaching the ins and outs of the maritime industry to the homeless. Mighty vessels piloted by dauntless men, I tell them, pushing a Safeway cart full of maritime pamphlets and other informational literature. They just love my one dog-eared copy of Mahon, so I have been forced to chain it to the cart. Who will carry your hops, I ask them, your grapefruit and your oranges and your miscellaneous citrus? Who will carry Flemish wheat end Egyptian cotton.... oh, when I descended impassible rivers, I sensed myself no longer guided by the boatmen, the screaming redskins having taken them for targets, nailing them naked to colored stakes.... Who will carry your Douglas-fir cants to Japan, and your hubcaps to Sri Lanka? Who will tote containers of Pantera CD's to China so that the crystalline flying V riffs of Dimebag Darryl can waft over the forbidden city, scratching the infamous minds of tyrants as they bend to evil deeds? Oh, in an island by the river, he was broken to the knee; there he read, writ with iron pen, that God had wearied of Wessex men, and given their country, field and fen, to the devils of the sea.
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 18:38:31 (EDT)

My two cents are: Which anonymous has been here daily???
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 18:07:34 (EDT)

My two cents are: The U.S. Supreme Court had to spank thekr kiesters at least a couple times / "Fish" cried the porter again, "Fish rhymes with Orange." / and am reduced to a puddle of slime / i like to eat cheese and oranges
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 17:19:52 (EDT)

My two cents are: You can now say you have done your good deed for the day / Stuffed animals never think of suicide / We are working at SW today / But why the hell should you take it in stride?
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 17:09:01 (EDT)

My two cents are: Thanks Glint / Beyond the shady shadows there's little else to do / with sand in my laces I said to the shrew / I'm tickled pink by eyes of blue
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 17:07:43 (EDT)

My two cents are: I was just letting out a bit more rope for him / and of green pointy thingies i've had my fill / He could call back though, I'd be a fool to acknowledge him / from my pockets, he's added to his till
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 17:05:48 (EDT)

My two cents are: I don't got nothing to hide / Everywhere the ceremony of innocence is drowned / I ask for an order of honey marinara sauce, on the side / and lo the net has withered and waned
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 17:04:34 (EDT)

My two cents are: Thanks Glint. I was just letting out a bit more rope for him. You can now say you have done your good deed for the day. Good job.
the crynic
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 17:04:28 (EDT)

My two cents are: Crynic, there's been (according to one anonymous source) at least two anonymous posters who regularly participate. Like Tom here they hail from California, only farther north. By the way, Crynic, the anonymous who justly pointed out the partisan "unconstitutional intrusion of the Supreme Court" was talking about the appaling 4-3 vote in Talahassee that started that mess. How the Liberal authors so conveniently forget that inconvenient fact. The U.S. Supreme Court had to spank thekr kiesters at least a couple times. And it was great!
Glint
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 16:56:48 (EDT)

My two cents are: Anonymous, can I be correct in assuming you've been on this page DAILY since I left many months ago? Is that possible? Sir/Madam, you are in desperate need of a life. Instead of vomiting your thin thoughts of vile bile, go out and help someone. Join a club, volunteer, help a kid, get a job. If you are physically and mentally handicapped to the point where you can only peck your poison on your keyboard, please accept my apologies. Otherwise, get in the game. Just a thought.
the crynic
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 16:50:15 (EDT)

My two cents are: Hi. Sorry that I forgot to look up the chat page. All you had to do was ask because I don't got nothing to hide. The link to this site was on the Thomas Paine board. I was wondering if anyone could tell me whether Leona still posts here or not. She might have been using an alias, but I think she used to participate in this board.
Tom
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 16:44:54 (EDT)

My two cents are: "...and the unconstitutional intrusion of the Supreme Court into the election." - You can always appeal the decision. Oh, never mind, I forgot, the Supreme Court is the FINAL APPEAL. Too bad. ///"She's obviously three times smarter." - I'll give you that one. She is by far the sharpest knife in the liberal drawer here at Fornigate.///Ascot and cowboy boots? Only when I take the yacht to the rodeo./// Out of respect for Anon of 16:06:38, we'll not discuss the maritime policy until THAT Anon is ready. Fair enough?
the crynic
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 16:43:48 (EDT)

My two cents are: The biggest giggle, after the hilarious disenfranchisement of American citizens in Florida and the unconstitutional intrusion of the Supreme Court into the election, it the crynic's pretending to sneer at Whatever's naivete. She's obviously three times smarter, better-educated, better-informed, healthier, more comfortable in herself, more sensual, and more experienced than the poor cryn... the pathetic sap just fell the 2 1/2 feet to the deck from a right-wing talk-radio turnip wagon, gets up and dusts himself off, and strides off to do battle with lesser mortals, convinced he is the most sophisticated dude to ever wear an ascot and cowboy boots. Maybe if we are lucky, he will tell us about maritime policy!
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 16:22:23 (EDT)

My two cents are: Bush's maritime policy has one fundamental flaw. He has taken all the federal dollars that used to be earmarked for plugging the holes in ships and supporting a healthy propeller-repair industry and given it to Enron executives and their heirs to trickle down on the peons. Now, for the first time since the War of 1812, the American maritime industry has to sink or swim on its own initiative, and there are holes in the lifeboats. (don't grade this quiz answer until I've had a week to expose it on the Freep and have it honed by the resident geniuses over there.)
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 16:06:38 (EDT)

My two cents are: Strunk & White say you now LIE ehre lame, socialist bonehead. Chickens lie down to lay eggs. Doink!
ePte�
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 16:00:06 (EDT)

My two cents are: Ok Anonymous, I'll take the bait rut My pockets empty the shop is shut her cold gaze settled down upon those about her like so much freon And her eyes shattered as CD-ROMs frozen in liquid nitrogen Still, at the edge of consciousness flits His disembodied aura, deceptive images fashioning ... The malt-o-meal of His existence, wondering. colors like the smell of trout in my eye, it's true who then tried to feel my swollen balloons Born to be an athlete I now lay here lame
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 15:28:30 (EDT)

My two cents are: That was weak, even for a lightweight like you / my heart muscle to you with the ebb and flow of my heart muscle to you with the ebb and flow of my heart muscle to you with the ebb and flow of my heart muscle to you with the ebb and flow of my heart muscle to you with the ebb and flow of my heart muscle to you with the ebb and flow of my heart muscle to Grey souls, Grey shoes I've even got grey blues
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 15:27:01 (EDT)

My two cents are: Swollen Pustules / And though I don't remember when I could not mask the pain / if you like, i'll give you my mule / The brown man signals happily, erasing the pain
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 15:20:40 (EDT)

My two cents are: The hospital prescribes prurient acne vulgaris / Thus the AMA x-rays slippery hangnails / A paramedic butchers luscious trachiotomies / Shall not a student nurse euthanize infected pustules? / Your cuticle dismembers green arrythmia / Acute boils! / Dr. Kervorkian suctions out Hippocrates' diarrhea / Doink!
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 15:16:18 (EDT)

My two cents are: Forget pudding. Without viagra more like jello.
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 15:10:23 (EDT)

My two cents are: let's not forget the maritime policy quiz / and on the potty, was the 10 / Funny Clown, bunch a balloons / our baubles, our unnecessary clothes
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 15:01:29 (EDT)

My two cents are: you brought it up, dickweed / he couldn' wait for orgasm to begin / Cause he had nothing but seed / Thus the huddled, shuddering BBQ penguins
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 14:59:42 (EDT)

My two cents are: Oh Webmaster, Webmaster, hear our pleas! / He has dared E to spread her knees / Make him stop, he is a crank! / Tunnels stitched long, dark, and dank / We beg, we plead, hear how we howl! / Too late, they've spread, the air grows foul.
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 14:49:49 (EDT)

My two cents are: Somewhat like shadow boxing.
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 14:38:33 (EDT)

My two cents are: That's the trouble with anonymouses. Sometimes can't discern which is which.
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 14:32:35 (EDT)

My two cents are: and let's not forget the maritime policy quiz. It's your turn. AMF.
the crynic
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 14:30:59 (EDT)

My two cents are: That was weak, even for a lightweight like you. But don't go away sad little man. I'll be back soon. Take an hour or two, think it through and give me your best shot. I'm looking forward to it. Now get back to that soft glob of pudding.
the crynic
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 14:29:13 (EDT)

My two cents are: Let the hot young girlfriend speak up. Inquiring minds would like to know if the power is actually in a big dose of viagra.
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 14:20:55 (EDT)

My two cents are: You brought it up dickweed. You remembered that statement from several months ago. I'm flattered. Is your world really that empty? Now grab a handful of fleshy pudding and stroke it gently; you know like you do with your thesaurus. Go get em cowboy.
the crynic
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 14:17:18 (EDT)

My two cents are: I don't shun accomplishments, crynic. I just doubt that you have any on record worth mentioning.
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 14:11:00 (EDT)

My two cents are: these little ditties / are worse than saggy titties / sounds like 'toine is back / this time on crack
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 14:09:52 (EDT)

My two cents are: Yep, if Gore had got the corn-pone vote the election would have been damn near theft-proof. But his problem was, if you try to make yourself appealing the the corn state anal retents, you run the risk of alienating normal people who see the whole poker-bible-and-blue-hair scene as hypocritical. It might have been a wash, with Bush pulling off the fraud in some other state like Oregon.
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 14:09:37 (EDT)

My two cents are: The current maritime policy is tricky indeed / or the pork loins / as i wonder how to fulfill my needs /A La Piffin a la paffin a la po pe Puffin
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 14:05:55 (EDT)

My two cents are: Don't let the bastards get you down, Glint / not being able to break thru / while tortured chicken beaks cry for mint / a fly grasping warmth while perched on an integrated circuit
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 14:03:31 (EDT)

My two cents are: Ok Anonymous, I'll take the bait. Please advise the unwise or erroneous segments of the current maritime policy. Enquiring minds want to know. Perhaps if you had a hot young girlfriend and a positive net worth, maybe then you would understand. Ever notice those who shun accomplishment and success usually haven't achieved either? Interesting.
the crynic
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 14:03:12 (EDT)

My two cents are: Crynic be still / her cold gaze settled down upon those about her like so much freon / due to his lawyer I get nothing from his will / watching homosexual pigeons
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 14:00:41 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sounds like quite a righteous god-fearing and chaste set of fellows, those champion college boys who engineered the dreadful snub. They are truly the Sons of Nebraska. Do you suppose they went on to vote for ex-coach Osborne, figuring that Ronald Reagan had proved that a college football coach would be an excellent political leader (as long as his handlers pointed him toward the audience when he talked) because he was nicknamed after a part he played in a movie about a college football coach?
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 14:00:16 (EDT)

My two cents are: You know some folks say that the wedgie Osborne gave Clinton in the famous snub is what guaranteed the coach a seat in the House of Representatives. Nebraska was the last state visited by Clinton in the final weeks of his 8 year term. If Gore had won in Nebraska he could have been president without making a spectacle out of himself in Florida.
Glint
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 13:53:10 (EDT)

My two cents are: To clarify that, the Gipper was a Notre Dame football player who Ronald Reagan portrayed in a movie. Last Saturday the University of Nebraska Cornhuskers shucked the shorts off the real life flocking Irish, in addition to their previous victory last year. Tom Osborne was a coach that led the Cornhuskers to several national titles. Reagan won the White House in a landslide election. In a movie Ronald Reagan said "win one for the Gipper." Tom Osborne (R-NE) won his 3rd District seat with 80% of the vote. In the wake of one of the Cornhusker's championship victories a Bozo, who was playing the part of the president, invited the Cornhuskers for a White house photo opportunity. They snubbed the man leaving him boomerang in hand (if you get my drift) standing next to the oval office sink. Are you with me so far?
Glint
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 13:35:56 (EDT)

My two cents are: Naive, maybe, but not so naive as a man who thinks that a portfolio and hot young girlfriend are going to dull the pain of a misguided maritime policy.
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 13:34:01 (EDT)

My two cents are: Loblolly pine ought to do nicely.
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 13:14:20 (EDT)

My two cents are: Hey Anonymous, poetry (or should I say rhyming) isn't your strong suit.
the crynic
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 12:34:38 (EDT)

My two cents are: I suspect the dirty dogg and E ran off together as was foretold in the series those hilarious short stories posted here many months ago. Now that was entertainment. /// Pete still pushing the rock? Too bad about John. He was a cool old guy. Kinda miss heckling Whatever. So righteous, innocent, naive, but misguided by the liberal lepers here./// Glad to hear the Leylands are doing well. I planted 20 Lombardi (now there was a coach) Poplars last year with very little success. Any suggestions for our region.
the crynic
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 12:20:50 (EDT)

My two cents are: "Fetch me my pickle jar," said Glint in a snit / When words of such caustic nonsense numb the ears of serenity / Reality is a staircase leading nowhere. / Savour each passing glimpse of eternity
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 12:08:26 (EDT)

My two cents are: Oh Crynic you're back / while the circumcised wren burbles efulgently / And smack dat ho fo stealin' my crack / My produce watches defiantly
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 12:04:16 (EDT)

My two cents are: Pete is off to Africa/That would be a cryin' shame./Mashed potatoes, where's the gravy baby?/I talk and talk about the government just the same
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 11:58:58 (EDT)

My two cents are: Bonzo was a chimp in a flick/Washing the wet army boots of dead soldiers/he sadly said"yes, because i'm a hick"/for sometimes i fall on monsters
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 11:57:40 (EDT)

My two cents are: A football coach. And all this time I thought he was a lifeguard who kept a record of all his saves by carving notches in a log.
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 11:55:54 (EDT)

My two cents are: Bonzo, Ronnie, the Gipper, what's the difference?
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 11:49:45 (EDT)

My two cents are: To clarify that, the Gipper was a Notre Dame football player who Ronald Reagan portrayed in a movie. After he got his legs chopped off in an accident, Knute Rockne (the only coach in the story) told the remaining players to "win one for the Gipper," which took care of Reagan's contribution. Now, to simplify the lesson, Ronald Reagan was not the "Gipper", nor was he a coach. He was "Ronnie", a B-grade Hollywood movie actor and spokesman for General Electric, 20-Mule Team Borax, and Chesterfield cigarettes, among others. By the same token, Ronald Reagain is not "Bonzo." Bonzo was merely Reagan's co-star in his greatest movie.
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 11:48:45 (EDT)

My two cents are: They're hoping that a genuine college coach will be able to make the Speaker do his bidding, since Hastert is only a high-school girl's wrestling coach.
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 11:38:46 (EDT)

My two cents are: Better watch it or we might send a football coach to the White House. Oh wait. We did that already with the Gipper!
Glint
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 11:32:59 (EDT)

My two cents are: The games the same even without a name.
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 11:30:48 (EDT)

My two cents are: As ever, Glint is a font of information. Who needs a pickle jar? But enough, my gut is still splitting with residual guffaws about the sheeple teaming with the ACLU. Good on you, gnome, good to see you haven't lost the touch!
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 11:29:57 (EDT)

My two cents are: Funny that General should show up while Tom is hanging.
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 11:27:04 (EDT)

My two cents are: Ahoy, Crynic! Long time no see. Whatever's been scarce, but not as scarce as the ydogE pair. Pete says he's gone to Africa, but Jeremiah checks in every once in a while. This Tom guy said he followed a link in from a chat board and was going to tell us which one. But so far he hasn't come through.
Glint
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 11:26:07 (EDT)

My two cents are: The best I can manage is a wry yet tolerant chuckle upon hearing that the midland is still rube enough to send a football coach to Congress.
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 11:25:28 (EDT)

My two cents are: Well, the sheeple are joining forces with the ACLU in hopes of finding a couple of brain cells to rub together. By the way, you'll get a chuckle out of the hit counter on this page: http://www.sheeple.com/
Glint
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 11:22:54 (EDT)

My two cents are: Bit the dust? I think not, fuckface.//// Been away from this page for a long while, but with good reason. You goofy liberals are STILL whining about the election. Give it up. Get over it./// Hey Glint, hope all is well with you. And you too anonymous (sp). Where is Whatever, doggie do, E, and Pete? All gone for good?///And thanks Anon, for I am your breath of fresh air. Happy to accomodate. //// Is this Tom character a ged educated, dick in the mall, racist bigot or he is a clever conservative dickin with the liberal jerkoffs w/o them even knowing it?
the crynic
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 11:21:06 (EDT)

My two cents are: Whatever happened to the concept of sheeple?
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 11:17:43 (EDT)

My two cents are: Looking at my portfolio, now I'm really laughing. Don't know if I can survive this joyful experience.
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 10:57:28 (EDT)

My two cents are: One of the pleasant surprises of Saturday's televised Notre Dame V. NU NCAA game was an in-booth interview with former NU coach and current U.S. Representative Tom Osborne (R). The guy has class and is a good role model. Of course while sports broadcasters love him the Liberal media hates him. Osborne got 80% of the vote in the 2000 election, by the way.
Glint
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 10:56:51 (EDT)

My two cents are: Yeah, laughter is good. Let's see if we can manage to laugh through the entire recession.
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 10:47:49 (EDT)

My two cents are: Historically, Americans have ranked the court higher than Congress and the president in confidence ratings, and those ratings have not diminished in the months since the [Bush v. Gore] decision. In a Gallup poll, for instance, 49 percent of those surveyed expressed �a great deal� or �quite a lot� of confidence in the court immediately after the election ruling; 50 percent said so this June. That�s a smidgen higher than the court�s 47 percent approval rate in June 2000, long before the big controversy.
scotus approval rating up since election
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 10:27:36 (EDT)

My two cents are: ''Twenty minutes later the phone rang. It was Gore again. �I tried to call Bill [Daley, the campaign chairman], but his phone�s off the hook and his cell�s turned off.� �Silly me,� thought Klain. �I�d kept mine on.�'' <<< BWA! HA! HA! Help me! I'm dyin' here!
Glint
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 10:20:01 (EDT)

My two cents are: Remember those photo ops that showed Gore and Lieberman sitting side by side each with a telephone receiver up to his head like they were having some sort of conference call. Were these the sessions which hatched the great "secret plan" of calling Erin Bwahahakovich? Oh please, I hope Newstweak & co. keep opening up more "wounds" with these stories because laughter is the best medicine. Need to be careful that I don't O.D.
Glint
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 10:18:04 (EDT)

My two cents are: Gore should have called Erin Bwahahakoich instead! :-D
glint
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 10:12:16 (EDT)

My two cents are: What was "Gore�s Secret Plan?" Who you gonna call? Erin Brockovich! Don't you mean Erin Brockovich? Crying out loud, this poor wooden headed fellow was so out of touch with reality that he was hatching desperately idiotic "secret plans." It's too much! I can't stand the pain of laughing. I feel just like one of those knee-slapping hyena-howling Katzenjammer kids. I hope we get to read about more of Gore's "secret plans" and lock boxes as he morphs out from his cocoon.
Glint
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 10:11:16 (EDT)

My two cents are: That's President Potty Mouth to you, fuckhead!
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 09:34:00 (EDT)

My two cents are: Many thoughtful readers have expressed an interest in the "Presidential IQ" story, an internet hoax which was portrayed as factual in a recent strip. This was a regrettable error, although perhaps inevitable, given that this feature uses the same fact-checking house as Saturday Night Live and The Drudge Report. Trudeau takes full responsibility, acknowledging the use of fictional material from an outside source instead of simply making it up as he usually does. The creator deeply apologizes for unsettling anyone who was under the impression that the President is, in fact, quite intelligent.
from doonesbury.com
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 09:32:04 (EDT)

My two cents are: From Newsqueak >>> SO ON TUESDAY AFTERNOON, December 12, Gore decided to write an Op-Ed for The New York Times, on the assumption the Court would rule in his favor. .... The vice president phoned Walter Dellinger, a former solicitor general under Bill Clinton, for counsel. "I�ve spent the last few hours writing an Op-Ed for tomorrow�s Times," Gore told him. "I want your judgment on whether I ought to run this or not." Dellinger liked it, suggested some changes that Gore punched into his laptop, and they were done. Gore said he would send it to Bill Daley, the campaign chairman, for one last look. "Is there anything else I need to think about?" he asked Dellinger. "As a lawyer, I wouldn�t write an Op-Ed on a case I�d argued that was pending. But, then, you�re not the lawyer. You�re the client, so there�s no rule about keeping silent." Dellinger then added, "But still, you should be thinking about whether running this would provoke the Court." After all, it was Gore who�d told aides after the recounts were halted over the weekend that no one in the campaign should "trash" the Court. Might this Op-Ed be regarded as the velvet-gloved equivalent? "O.K., let me think about it." Gore paused for only seconds, then made up his mind. He chuckled. Said the vice president of the United States about the Supreme Court: "---- �em." <<< Yeah, "---- him" too! Your garden variety hypocrite. Telling his people not to "trash" the ----ing Supreme Court. In hindsight more than ever potty mouth Gore doesn't deserve the White House.
Glint
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 09:31:56 (EDT)

My two cents are: Boy, does Trudeau ever have egg on his face! He's finished!
Harlan St. Wolf
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 09:27:13 (EDT)

My two cents are: Tom is the most refreshing thing to happen on this page since crynic bit the dust.
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 09:24:57 (EDT)

My two cents are: The GOP didn't choose to run the Brillo pad. He pushed his way in, not trusting Bush to win and wanting his nickel up front. He probably made more running on his own than he could have made sucking hind tit like Cheney and the others. He's a loudmouth, and Little Bush likes his splibs quiet, uttering soothing counsels in calm voices marinated by years and years of working the affirmative action racket. To junior, Ambassador Keyes looks like a dangerous street boog, and he don't walk on that side.
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 06:32:41 (EDT)

My two cents are: The majority of voters in the election made a grave mistake in casting their ballots for Al Gore. What right does Gore have to be president anyway? His dad was only a senator. The country came close to rejecting Bush, and it was up to the Supreme Court majority to stop a count that could have gone against him. Who the hell else is going to play hard-ball in this country and get the job done? Do you think we can rely on the fucking military?
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 10, 2001 at 00:01:02 (EDT)

My two cents are: Fortunately, there were five justices on the court willing to step up to the plate and pick the junior. To do otherwise would have meant that votes were counted by different methods in different counties. Something that the Constitution directs the federal courts to guard against, whatever this Ginsburg twat says.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 23:55:33 (EDT)

My two cents are: Somebody ought to put a cork in that sore loser Justice Breyer. Ditto that Ginsburg cunt, squealing about how the interpretation would invalidate every election in US history. Sometimes you have to step up to the plate and pick the President, cunt. It's in the Constitution or something. Open wide. Doink.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 23:46:55 (EDT)

My two cents are: Repeat: Gore never had the lead in Florida. Repeat: of course not. If Gore had had the lead in Florida the Supreme Court would have ruled in favor of counting the votes.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 23:42:24 (EDT)

My two cents are: Inept may be unacceptable. Perhaps a tattoo using the words Accidental President.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 23:22:03 (EDT)

My two cents are: ...spellchecker, I fully realize acceptible is not acceptable. But more acceptable than missing e.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 22:49:46 (EDT)

My two cents are: Good, the spellchecker is in Africa. Missing an e in more ways than one.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 21:50:07 (EDT)

My two cents are: Yes, he definitely should have the word impeached carved into his forhead. Inept sounds like an acceptible word for GW's carving.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 21:45:07 (EDT)

My two cents are: Ahh. Your grousing over the election is music to our ears. Gore never had the lead in Florida. Close election but he lost. Oh yes, and the boss he was serving was impeached. :-)
Glint
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 21:02:44 (EDT)

My two cents are: Archie Bunker LIVES
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 21:01:02 (EDT)

My two cents are: My man Gore had a bagel dog side kick for sure. But at least they didn't run a brillo pad Uncle Tom for the top spot like the Republicans did in the primary. At least the Democrats figured had it figured out and kept their Hymie-calling boffer sidelined this time.
Tom
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 20:32:39 (EDT)

My two cents are: Kaplan's book excerpt reveals that the animosities within the Court spilled over at a gathering of the Justices while they were hosting six visiting Russian judges. ``'In our country,' a Russian justice said, bemused, 'we wouldn't let judges pick the president.' The justice added that he knew that, in various nations, judges were in the pocket of executive officials -- he just didn't know that was so in the United States,'' Kaplan writes. ``Stephen Breyer was angry and launched into an attack on the decision, right in front of his colleagues. It was 'the most outrageous, indefensible thing' the Court had ever done, he told the visiting judges. 'We all agree to disagree, but this is different.' Breyer was defiant, brimming with confidence that he'd been right in his long dissent.'' Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg was more baffled than annoyed, attempting to rationalize the legitimacy of the ruling. ``'Are we so highly political, after all?' she said. 'We've surely done other things, too, that were activist, but here we're applying the Equal Protection Clause in a way that would de-legitimize virtually every election in American history','' Kaplan writes. ``Sometimes you have to be responsible and step up to the plate,'' Justice Kennedy told the Russians. ``You have to take responsibility.'' Justice John Paul Stevens offered, ``I'm so tired. I am just so exhausted.'' The excerpt from ``The Accidental President'' (William Morrow, an imprint of Harper Collins), also reviews the private goings-on of the Gore and Bush camps. Bush campaign guru Karl Rove was watching MSNBC when the Court ruling was announced. He called Bush in Texas; the governor was watching CNN. ``This is good news,'' Rove told Bush. ``No, no, this is bad news,'' Bush replied. ``Where are you now?'' Bush asked Rove. ``In the McLean Hilton -- standing in my pajamas.'' ``Well, I'm in my pajamas, too,'' said the new president-elect, at 9:00 pm CST. Kaplan also reveals an earlier, scrapped, secret plan hatched by Al Gore while his aides were trying to figure out how they could collect enough horror stories to convince a judge that the Florida ballot was confusing, Kaplan writes. ``Gore had not only been thinking about the problem, but he'd done something about it. He'd called Erin Brockovich ... the real Erin Brockovich. The vice president thought 'she should come to Florida and lead our efforts to collect affidavits.''' Gore aide Michael Whouley told the Vice President he thought it was a really bad idea, while aide Ron Klain, exhausted, said ``Sounds fine to me, it's great.'' Klain said later: ``Bring in a camel with three heads. It just seemed like the whole thing's a huge menagerie at this point. Erin Brockovich -- of course!'' On the Bush side, Kaplan reveals how immediately after the election Bush campaign official Don Evans asked former Senator Jack Danforth to represent the campaign in a federal challenge to the constitutionality of the manual recount in Florida. Danforth was vacationing with his wife in Cancun, before finishing a second Margarita, a hostess told him he had a call. After listening to Evans, Danforth asked, ``Is there a chance of us prevailing?'' He then worried aloud to Evans that any lawyer filing it was jeopardizing his credibility. The next morning, Evans called back and said, ``We've thought about it and we want you to do this.'' The Bush campaign arranged to send a private plane to take Danforth to Tallahassee. Danforth checked out of his hotel, though he remained uneasy. He decided he needed to talk to Bush himself. In his next call with Evans -- and the leader of Bush's team, Jim Baker, on the line as well -- Danforth said so. Danforth assumed they'd put him right through. The phone rang, but it was Evans again ``Jack,'' he said, ``it sounds like your heart's not in this. Maybe it's best for you not to do it. Have a nice vacation.''
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 20:21:37 (EDT)

My two cents are: Lanny Davis, whatever any of the cynical weasels on this site may say, lacks a moral compass. Not three years ago he was saying that Clinton shouldn't be compelled to testify about the nature of his relationship with Monica Lewinsky. Hah, imagine that! Now the amoral bastard has said that what Gary Condit should do is fess up to having an affair with Chandra Levy! The ridiculous sap is navigating the seas not knowing where he is or where he is headed. No compass.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 19:56:58 (EDT)

My two cents are: I don't know who Lanny Davis is, anonymous, but I've heard the name so he or she is probably famous. Apparently she said during the impeachment travesty that it was just a low-level Republican smear, and now she has some other ideas about Condit. This is almost as important to Glint as the theoretical shame of a cartoonist.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 19:51:16 (EDT)

My two cents are: I'm not sick of the Condit thing, maybe because I only ever see it out of the corner of the eye. Apparently if you watch Fox News and CNN all the time you get a lot of Condit, which probably would be a drag. Glint's favorite New Republic queer, Andrew Sullivan, just wrote a screed about how he can't figure out what the hell Condit did wrong. First thing that dork has ever produced that it is possible for a reasonable man to agree with.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 19:44:58 (EDT)

My two cents are: How do you figure the Democrats don't kowtow to the sheeny vote when they ran a sheeny for vice-president?
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 19:39:29 (EDT)

My two cents are: I'm pretty sick of this Condit thing and I agree with you. Why should a congressman like Condit care about what the public thinks. It's none of their business what he does as long as he hasn't killed anybody. Nobody's proved he had any involvement at all. And as soon as he cooperates we can get over it all and move on. ..... Security guard went berserk today and popped a bunch of other security guards. Kind of spooky because I worked as a security guard once at a mall. Got out of the business just in time.
Tom
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 19:38:21 (EDT)

My two cents are: Who is Lanny Davis?
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 19:35:31 (EDT)

My two cents are: Tom, this particular deal about reparations to the conkeys down at the conference is about giving money to the dictators and their friends in places where they used to buy the slaves long ago. It's not about buying a tuck-and-roll job for your local mud-duck's Camero. The idea is that certain African countries are fucked up as a result of the slave trade a couple hundred years ago, so the people where the slaves ended up should pay to correct that. In reality, most African countries are fucked up because they are in the hands of thugs, and because the whole sociology over there is fucked up to begin with-- that's probably why they sold the slaves to the europeans to begin with. Even today you can get all the slaves you want in sub-equatorial Africa, and the desert Arabs swoop down on their camels and grab them whenever they perceive the need for a few. The whole place is still back in the dark ages, only you won't ever learn anything about it because all the information you get is from news stringers in the capital cities along the coast. You are wise to focus on other matters.
House of Meat
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 19:33:59 (EDT)

My two cents are: here, here.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 16:48:52 (EDT)

My two cents are: Yes, Gary. You need to come crawling before your great benevolent public begging for forgiveness about sex with an intern. And we, the great benevolent public, will decide whether to forgive or crucify. We the public are in our glory when we have the opportunity to smack down, stomp on, then follow with pretend forgiveness. But first, we need grist for the mill. Furthermore, you probably should be crucified for allowing your kids to call you by your first name. Shameful.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 16:03:02 (EDT)

My two cents are: I thought the whole thing was about a missing intern.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 15:40:03 (EDT)

My two cents are: Yes, Tom, Fresno State did get a good start this season kicking Colorado's ass. And if there is a God Colorado will go go out with a good shucking at the hands of the Cornhuskers in their closing game. <> I couldn't believe my eyes this afternoon on Wolf Blitzer's show. There was Lanny Davis demanding that the Condit thing is not about sex. When Wolf asked what Condid needed to do Davis said he needs to come out and admit publicly that he had an affair with Chandra Levy. Has laughable Lanny had some sort of an epiphany? Is this the same Lanny who we used to see insisting that Clinton's perjury scandal was all about sex and that he should not be compelled to testify about the nature of his relationship with Monica Lewinsky? BWA! Poor Lanny, like a a ship without a moral compass. <> Time to go weed whack around the 83 tree Peebody Leyland hedge.
Glint
People's Republic of, Maryland - Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 15:31:49 (EDT)

My two cents are: Perhaps Fresno State can teach you something about double negatives. Good luck.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 14:08:00 (EDT)

My two cents are: Don't know what this Whatever dud is all about. But if he's some racist who wants to spout off about stuff I don't want to hear it. Some people are just poison in a chat room. I'm more interested in getting my GED and getting on with my life. Maybe get an AA and then go to Fresno State. As far as politics go I'll stick with the Democrats since they don't kow tow to the Schwoogies and Sheenys.
Tom
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 13:55:59 (EDT)

My two cents are: I don't want nobody thinking I am predjudice just because I talk about the "Canadians" using certain words. It's not a big deal with me and in fact the less time we spend talking about them the better. There are other more important things to worry about like unemployment and the economy and football.
Tom
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 13:44:52 (EDT)

My two cents are: Watermelon seeds, mud duck, conkys? That's what I call vocabulary expertise.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 13:44:51 (EDT)

My two cents are: I don't consider myself to be a red neck or a racist. I think the real racists are the ones who pretend to be friends with Jar Jar Binks and company on the outside while trying to eliminate them behind the scenes. You know, like when those guys chain dragged that mud duck on a chain and George Bush was laughing about it during the debates. Republicans are racists but we aren't.
Tom
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 13:26:53 (EDT)

My two cents are: Hmm, would like to see Whatever show up about now.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 13:24:32 (EDT)

My two cents are: hee-haw
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 13:23:31 (EDT)

My two cents are: ha.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 13:19:09 (EDT)

My two cents are: Course I guess its not necessary to point out that although Bush didn't send Rice or Powell the African race conference we did send down our House niggers from the CBCF. (That was a joke)
Tom
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 13:14:29 (EDT)

My two cents are: And then there's always red-necked racism.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 13:13:49 (EDT)

My two cents are: That Africant conference on racism didn't get too much participation by us. Seems that the big deal was trying to get backpay for our cotton picking antique farm equipment. If that happens they'll just get bigger car stereos and we'll have even more baboomba on our streets than we do now. Our higher up blacks in Washington like Rice and Powell didn't go. Guess that's o.k. Suit themselves. The problem I see with the Republicans is that they waste too much time trying to kow tow to the blacks. They are always falling all over themselves trying to placate the watermelon seeds who just end up trusting them even less. Don't know why they bother bending over backwards when they're only going to get about 10% of the bootlipped vote. Democrats are smarter because they just sit back and keep their mouths quiet. The conkys are going to vote for the Democrat every time so why should the party take a chance on saying something that'll get them in trouble later? Don't make any cornbread promises you can't deliver. The ghetto vote ain't broke, so don't try fixing it. I have nothing against no homies. I just think it's funny how the Republicans are trying to be their friends all the time.
Tom
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 13:05:54 (EDT)

My two cents are: On the other hand, maybe the battlin' bulldogs have learned how to not disintegrate completely during the second half. The nerve of some uppities calling bulldog fans red-necked hillbillies.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 13:02:11 (EDT)

My two cents are: Do you like Pantera, Tom?
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 12:51:47 (EDT)

My two cents are: Big freaking whoop. Everybody slaughters the buffs, if they're anywhere above mediocre.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 12:50:00 (EDT)

My two cents are: I see that there's a Cornholer fan here. Before their Notre Dame game Trev Albert said "So things don't look good for Nebraska if you're facing Notre Dame. The Irish front seven are all studs....My prediction: Notre Dame, 14-10. The Irish return to the Top 10." Wish he was right but I guess he's just a jerk off with his head and shoulders up his ass. Now, his prediction of Fresno State over Washington was correct but not too brilliant. I mean it was given that we'd win. I say "we" because I've had two brothers who went to Fresno State. The older one dropped out and the second one is there now. Anyhow, Fesno seems to be this year's college football Cinderella team. They are 3-0 after starting off the season by slaughtering the Buffs at Colorado U.
Tom
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 12:24:05 (EDT)

My two cents are: San Diego de-regulated earlier than everybody else for some reason unknown to me. It was about an extra year of whining and bitching, as I remember, the canary in the mine shaft, the harbinger of the statewide price scandals. The problem now is that the utes had so buy electric from Enron at jimmied prices and sell to consumers under regulated prices, so PG&E went bankrupt and the pols are trying to prevent So-Cal Edison from going bankrupt as we speak. The Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, following directions from the Snip's puppet-masters, refused to require rebates from Enron and the other gougers to the California utilities. It was a huge transfer of money, billions of dollars, to the energy brokers from the utilities and ultimately from the rate-payers or taxpayers if the feds don't step in and spank the Texans, which duh they won't. It was a payoff for fronting a few million to the Bush clan, the first big obvious example of Republicanism in action afforded by the unelected administration that has moved itself into the executive branch.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 11:49:02 (EDT)

My two cents are: Good morning Ghlint, you mean. Although its afternoon.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 11:45:13 (EDT)

My two cents are: Toot to Duluth said the lady in the booth selling tickets for the train.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 11:40:23 (EDT)

My two cents are: What city has for from November to April? It can't be Duluth, because they have fog all year.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 11:39:37 (EDT)

My two cents are: good morning hglint.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 11:00:32 (EDT)

My two cents are: Look, Glint, your friends from San Diego are just typical California kooks with their rant about a 200-300% rise in utility bills. If memory serves, this was true for maybe one month and then only in San Diego. The rest of us rode out Enron's gouge of maybe a 40% increase. This magically stopped once their ten-gallon hats got dented by nasty news headlines. Things have settled down, although the bankrupt utility companies were able to force a tiered increase in rates in order to pay off executive bonuses and the governor got a little antsy and entered into a few high-price, long-term contracts. In the end, the utilities got bit in the ass by the de-reg scheme they rammed down our throats and the 44 states without de-regulation have learned from this. Now, let the Carroll County Fishwrap know about your error before I send them a scathing letter of correction.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 09:45:02 (EDT)

My two cents are: Or one could live in a place that has much fog from November to April. A fog tent. It wouldn't matter if every light in the city were turned off.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 09:18:04 (EDT)

My two cents are: Good. Strip off the pinch-assed ignorant comment on the California "energy crisis" and talk about the light pollution by describing real things that people can see. Unfortunately, you're addressing a tribe that likes its cave, and has learned how to make a cave of the outdoors by shutting out the sky. Your problem "resonates" only with those few interested in the stars and reflex tree-huggers, the rest of the folk like it the way it is-- more lights, let's focus on the new cars with improbable names and not have to worry about something jumping from the sky and biting us. NB: Here we have a Mediterranean climate, which means it rains off and on from November to March, and it doesn't rain from April to October, although there may be cloudbursts in the mountains. I used to sometimes pack an old shower curtain for a tarp in case that happened, but if you stroll the hills around the popular back-packing spots you will notice that everybody has a tent, and almost everybody puts it up and sleeps in it on the driest nights. They seem to like the enclosure, and are uncomfortable sleeping under the sky. Maybe this is genotypic, something handed down from an animal that wanted to crawl into a den at night, or maybe it is phenotypic, an acclimation to sleeping under roofs. It means that your goal of turning off the lights will be more difficult than the goal of reasonable firearms control-- you will run into the sturdy wall of baggage that people carry around inside their heads, consciously or unconsciously. Your only hope is to do what denizens of Carroll County apparently always do when something happens that they don't like: you must sue.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 08:28:39 (EDT)

My two cents are: [You're already seen the start of this letter in the sneak peak postings on Tuesday; now here's the rest of it].....................Beyond the California politics was the news that energy conservation helped in reducing the demand. Unfortunately, this conservation was driven by higher energy costs and the threat of rolling blackouts. Cooling temperatures also helped to ease demand through reduced use of air conditioning. What does this have to do with astronomy, you ask? An amateur astronomer and his wife from San Diego were recent visitors at our home observatory. They reported that back home the energy crisis has dramatically decreased the number of unnecessary and wasteful outdoor lights visible from their back yard at night. A silver lining to the crisis indeed. They reported anecdotally that their gas and electric rates rose between 200-300% in a single year. How lucky we are that a similar crisis has not affected Carroll County. Still, when I look at my electric bill the rates don't seem all that low. Yet when traveling around county at night one sees tremendous waste in unnecessary and misdirected outdoor lighting, or "light pollution." For instance, there's an enormous tower being constructed in Union Bridge whose bubble of light can be seen from miles away even when the tower is below the horizon. If it were located in a city such as Baltimore it would hardly be noticed. Yet, in the rural countryside of western Carroll County it sticks out like a dead tree. Car dealers have a reputation for notoriously gaudy lighting. Granted, they want customers to be able to see what they're buying. But that should not be an excuse for drowning out star light with wasteful sideways pointing light packs that spray much of their light output up instead of down. A better solution are downward pointing lights capped with reflector shields. That way all of the light gets directed and reflected down to where it should be wanted most: On their show lot. As an added bonus a car dealer may find that they could achieve the same illumination with fewer watts using less electricity and thus save money. These savings could then be passed on the customer. Among the very worst light polluters in the county are the public schools. Many of them feature exteriors which are very poorly illuminated because it appears that their lighting engineer's rule of thumb is "the more watts the better." The light fixtures on tall masts are misdirected and in some cases point in a nearly horizontal direction. This means that almost half of the light beaming from the fixture is lighting the bellies of airplanes and nocturnal birds instead of illuminating school property. When I drive past a school on a foggy night and see the orange haze above it I think of the tax dollars being wasted to light up that cloud. The squandered tax money might be better spent on education. We all need light but wasteful energy misuse must be eliminated. Besides the economic cost caused by waste bad lighting is marring the once starry sky over Carroll County. What citizen would tolerate an act of vandalism on a natural landmark? The night sky is a resource that belongs to everyone but where has the Milky Way gone? It is a mere ghost of its former self because of wasted lighting. Light pollution isn't a toxic form of pollution (unless you count the byproducts from electrical power plants such as the soot from burning coal). Unlike air pollution, when a light is turned off or shielded the adverse effects stop immediately. There is no lingering pollutants as their are with land fills or polluted lakes. With light pollution there are no "clean up" costs. On the local level county residents can help by turning off unused outdoor lights. If you're not using the deck, turn off the flood light. Save money and energy and help restore the inspiring sight of the stars against a dark sky. A neighboring light that trespasses onto another's property or into someone's window is similar to unwanted noise pollution or smoke from burning rubbish. If a person complains about a noisy neighbor do the nuisance laws suggests ear plugs for a remedy? Of course not. If a person complains about irritating smoke billowing onto his property what court would order the placement of a clothespin over the nose? Absolutely none. Similarly, suggesting that a person pull down the blinds to keep out a trespassing light is equally absurd. The issue of light pollution is nonpartisan. It is not a leading "green" issue although it has been linked with threats to wildlife including nocturnal birds and migrating turtles. Light pollution is a quality of life issue. Who doesn't want to pass along the heritage of the night sky to our children? The same night sky that was known to the ancients who could see the Milky from the center of the largest metropolises of their day. We should each be more aware of employing good energy use and eliminating waste in our fixtures and consumption. Lights should be shielded with all light pointing down below the horizontal to where it's needed. Flood lights should be triggered by timed motions detectors which does two things: (1) controls energy usage and (2) produces a sudden light that startles intruders. Let each of us think of ways to curb energy usage in our own situations. Why not reduce the problem of energy waste before another energy crisis takes care of it for us.
and from today's Carroll County Times.....
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 08:01:16 (EDT)

My two cents are: good morning, e
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 07:51:21 (EDT)

My two cents are: More headlines of doom as stupid's economy continues its downward spiral. More like a freefall, really.
which way to the faith-based soup kitchen for some faith-based soup
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 07:44:22 (EDT)

My two cents are: T H E * FA C T S *** Seems I need to do a little more explaining. Let's see if this helps. There was this yellow dog that dwelt among the valley people down along the road that was constantly yapping barking and yowling as thougth it was fending off a herd of elephants. Make a sudden motion like open your front door to water a plant and "Woo! woo! woo! woo! ... Woo! woo! woo!" In fact the dog seemed to mimic the behavior of its hanlEr who was also pretty hight strung and would shout across or hop on top of the fence and shake fist. The first mistake was to try reasoning with the dope. Alas, logic had no effect and so other means were necessary. The answer was to perhaps use their own tactics against them. If a plopper gets dropped here, a loaf gets pinched over there. That sort of thing. And you know what? It works because the yellow dog and it's Evil handler have both slipped back into their shacks.
Glint
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 07:12:14 (EDT)

My two cents are: Someone's confused again. Gourdon's not retired. He drives out at 7a every morning in his little box truck to nail siding on the walls of rich people's houses. The retired govey rifee is dog man. And haven't seen hide nor hair of him since the widow woman sued the fire bug for dumping ashes full of nails and crap on the small hayfield that dog man used to use to trespass across to get to where he could turn the dog lose on our property. Last time I saw him walking his stupid mongrel was probably last year. We were outside saying goodbye to some guests as they were preparing to enter their automobile. Notice one of them looking past, and turning around saw the dumbass duo crossing over from the field. A guest asked, "who is that coming?" The Mrs. explained he was an inconsiderate neighbor who, depite repeated requests, continues to turn his dog off its leash on our property. While she was talking the dog squatted and pinched a loaf. Waving broadly I yelled out, "Thank you! Thank you very much!" <> That seemed to take care of it. Either that or he changed his dog's bladder and/or sphincter schedule. Gourdon's been acting weird too. When I was out with the telescope on Friday, I saw him down the hill come out of his garage with a flashlight. He went over to the property line and was messing with the gourds. The telescope I had at the time couldn't point down below the horizontal and I didn't have any binos handy. I think he probably sneaks out to turn them so they don't get flat on one side. But why at night? And what was in that bottle he was carrying?
Glint
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 06:57:27 (EDT)

My two cents are: You've got it all wrong, Anonymous@21:14. You need a twenty ounce soda or tea bottle because you can keep a good grip on it, and wide mouthed so that your straw can fit inside without losing a drop while walking along without attracting attention while pulling bag worms off the leylands with the other hand. You can pour it on the fence, but if by flicking the bottle with quick wrist actions you can disperse content at least 20 feet away. That's right, just like the Pope you can flick your holy water with pin point accuracy. And as far as that pickle jar I keep down by the corner stake, those aren't pickles in there. :-) <> Second half was lackluster. Actually the last three quarters. Cornhuskers scored 17 in the first quarter. The rest of the game they reminded me of govy employees acting busy until the clock ran out. 3 and 0.
Glint
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 06:33:42 (EDT)

My two cents are: Perhaps we should give Jeremiah a little more credit. Proudly uneducated, proudly unemployed, and proudly silent about the fact that his wife is sucking Dr. cock down at the hospital.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 04:22:00 (EDT)

My two cents are: Don't you mean the First* Lady?
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 00:35:36 (EDT)

My two cents are: Shit, the fanciest dinner I ever went to, all they had was those "snakes" that are made of black ashes and crawl out of this sort of pill when you light it. And they had a couple of Safe 'n' Sane pinwheels after the fish course.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 00:34:23 (EDT)

My two cents are: How were the fireworks?
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 09, 2001 at 00:30:56 (EDT)

My two cents are: Reading that post is almost as exciting as watching the casa blanco state dinner on cspan. First lady looks like a big red balloon.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 21:55:57 (EDT)

My two cents are: Hte nurse finally left, and I hweeled my gurney into Dr. Souleymane's office and I'm typing this on ihs imac. I ahd to drag the IV tubes ebhind but I tied the stand to hte gurney and it works OK. Htey're straining my blood for the schistosomes and hte doctor says htat I'll be out in by hte end of hte monht. My assigned "tour buddy" Mrs. Edberg ahd the operation and hte doctor says the rectum will probably stay inside but hse's going to ahve to stay for a week or two so I'll ahve somebody to talk to. Hte negroes ehre are very ignorant and don't understand Swahili and insist on using words htat are not even Swahili and so htey are not in the Text Book. Htis has turned out to be a horrible vacation but I lent my camera and binocular to a Negro who said he would take some pictures for my web site. He says there are lots of animals near his village. He was going to bring hte camera and binox back last Wendesday but he ahsn't come back yet so htere must be a lot of animals and he is taking extra pictures. I gave him my traveller's checks and passport to buy film in case he needed to, so it's all right. My room is rihgt enxt to the courtyard and there are a lot of sick Negroes there on grass mats and rope hammocks, with their families, and a pretty Negro girl comes to my window trying to sell me cigarettes. I htink she may be interested in dating, and the enxt time she comes I'm going to ask her. Toodles! I love all you guys and when I get better I'll be back. The man from the embassy says the Walter Reed is the best oshpital to actually finish the blood straining and then manage a drug cure, and as soon as I can sit in a wheelchair I'm going htere. I already ahve hte airline ticket. Toodles! A ni bilikro ke dosobe! Aloha!
Pete�
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 21:37:08 (EDT)

My two cents are: I didn't understand the deal with the mason jar. Does he walk around peeing into the jar, and if the dog comes close he throws the piss on it? Or is he just saving the piss in the jar and pouring a little on the fence posts so the dog can tell the boundary? If so, why doesn't he just piss right on the fence? Any way you cut it, it doesn't sound like something that would be approved by Linda Tripp. Of course, you never know about a woman who robbed $500 bucks from a cash register and tried to get out of it by claiming it was a practical joke.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 21:14:06 (EDT)

My two cents are: Nope. It's Grolch. Bottled in a mason jar. Don't ask.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 20:19:40 (EDT)

My two cents are: That you, GW??
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 19:56:56 (EDT)

My two cents are: "This country needs a new paradox and I'm ready to lead us into it so that we can be somewhere else in the future. Answering differnt questions about other problems we haven't even begun to see yet, one's we can't imagine today because they're out there, out there in the future which isn't here because we're not in it yet. But when it happens, I'll be there, asking tough questions in the future, you can count on it." (Gues who)
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 19:09:46 (EDT)

My two cents are: too fuckin funny!!!!
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 19:00:20 (EDT)

My two cents are: Can't spell for shit, though.
grolsch
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 18:45:56 (EDT)

My two cents are: In the darkness, Gourdon could not be seen.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 18:10:55 (EDT)

My two cents are: I think Gourdon's doing a pretty good job with the urine caterer. I mean here's a guy, retired from the fed with videos of his neighbor stalking the property line at 2 am and pissing in a mason jar. Gourdon's got this one nailed shut.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 18:08:45 (EDT)

My two cents are: One might consider eating the gourds. Fruit of the loins of the earth. Unless of course they bothered one in some effigicial way.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 18:03:02 (EDT)

My two cents are: Quixotically, Jeremiah was always sort of the poor man's MK. MK was a titan, a guy who knew his shit, a guy that could take the libertarian road and hoe it right down into the swamps. Jeremiah always had his wife's paycheck to back him up. That was the big difference there.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 18:00:03 (EDT)

My two cents are: No prowling tonight, but I am fueling up for the walk with a 12-pack of Grolch. Great game so far in Lincoln. Poetically speaking, the Cornhuskers are sticking giving the Irish by giving them a Wadsworth in the Homer with the Long fellow.
Glint
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 17:59:14 (EDT)

My two cents are: Naw. Prowling the property lines at night with a jar full of urine sort of takes the edge off things.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 17:56:14 (EDT)

My two cents are: It had nothing to do with Doonesbury. Clinton lost the support of the American people because he came into Glint's living room and lied about who he had been boning. And then he said it depends on what the definition of is is, which set Pete off like a gerbil in a treadmill, working himself to higher and higher levels of personally satisfactory hilarity that nobody else seemed to be able to interest themselves in long enough to see the joke. He's probably lying in the rectal ward right now trying to think of new ways to milk that one for guffaws. None of this redounded to Clinton's legacy, and he left office under a cloud of 65% approval.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 17:24:07 (EDT)

My two cents are: Anonymous, you're making me homesick for the golem. I long to read one of his screeds misapplying some simple grammar rule from Strunk and White because he doesn't know what appositive means. Where is the insane little freak? What if they call in the margin on his webvan.com shares and he never makes it back? For about four years now I've been able to marvel at least twice a week at some incredibly boneheaded statement sneered knowingly out of his serial-killer personality.... now all I get is the gnome watching the moon shadows with his bathrobe over his head. The world has become a pretty bleak place.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 17:14:41 (EDT)

My two cents are: If he's paid attention to the open letters, he could do like the golem and convince himself of the reality of an imaginatively new dyslexic drunkard's definition, and then sneer at his betters because they don't know what the word means.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 17:09:01 (EDT)

My two cents are: Where does Glint get this shit about the spending of the past? Does he thing we're spending less now? Well, maybe we will be spending less if Snippy holds to his campaign promise to leave the trust funds inviolate, as modified by the recent discovery that he had exempted recession and war. If his nerve holds, he may invent a new definition for recession and claim that he's managed to put the country in one.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 17:05:33 (EDT)

My two cents are: He's trying hard not to be remembered for breaking his campaign promise to keep his mitts off social security. Now he says, wal, I've always said that we wouldn't touch social security except in recession or war. Only problem is, he never said that until just now. These guys are tricky.... they lie. But Republicans never went broke underestimating the intelligence of the voter, so maybe Glimpse has a point. Now all he needs is a recession or a war, and he's home free.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 16:56:53 (EDT)

My two cents are: This page could use a few more righteous conservatives! It's a pretty heavy load for just Glint and me.
Harlan St. Wolf
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 16:17:27 (EDT)

My two cents are: >>What will be remembered is that Bush kept his campaign promise about the tax refund.<< Given the state of the economy, the Democrats certainly hope so.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 15:59:24 (EDT)

My two cents are: I stopped reading Doonesbury about 12 years ago when Trudeau started mocking Gore and calling him Prince Albert. Trudeau is a rightwing tool. He's the reason Clinton lost the support of the American people.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 15:42:42 (EDT)

My two cents are: A hundred bucks says Glint's arteries harden after the Huskers blow this one.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 15:39:53 (EDT)

My two cents are: Had a busy day today. While Al Gore is fretting over how to re-re-reinvent himself I balanced three months worth of checks and credit cards. Cornhuskers are hosting the fighting irish tonight. So, if you'll excuse me I need to run out for beer and corn nuts.
Glint
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 15:36:04 (EDT)

My two cents are: Satire may be dead, but this page is about to enter its Golden Age. Welcome, Tom!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Harlan St. Wolf
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 15:11:47 (EDT)

My two cents are: It must be tough on Glint without the golem. One faux trog trying to hold down a fort he's prisoner in. Can't even use the golem's boilerplate rants.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 15:10:10 (EDT)

My two cents are: Drops, are they? Thank the Lord. Republicanism is dead,
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 15:07:53 (EDT)

My two cents are: These nine little drops or so out of the SS surplus is nothing compared to spending of the past. What will be remembered is that Bush kept his campaign promise about the tax refund. What are Democrats going to do? Run candidates who who come out promising another tax increase? Think about it.
Glint
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 15:06:08 (EDT)

My two cents are: Satire is dead.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 14:17:48 (EDT)

My two cents are: http://207.69.141.215/BushIQ.shtml
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 14:16:29 (EDT)

My two cents are: It requires a high IQ to be able to discern the White House is white.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 13:36:33 (EDT)

My two cents are: How could a guy who used to have part ownership in a baseball team be dumb?
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 12:08:50 (EDT)

My two cents are: Not to be concerned, Gary. Every time the president opens his mouth he demonstrates his IQ.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 11:00:32 (EDT)

My two cents are: So why are the twins horking down so much brew? Junior never copped to his drunken driving arrest until after at least Jenna was fighting beer jowls and had moved on to Tequila and 7-up poppers. This theory of honesty and open communications isn't fool-proof, and sometimes it backfires, the way it did for Speaker Livingston and the distant Elian relatives.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 10:54:43 (EDT)

My two cents are: Look, troglodyte-- the only reason Bill Clinton lied about shaking his jalooba at Paula Jones was that he was trying to protect the twins from the knowledge that their President was a horn-dog. The liberal tactic of bringing it all out into the open that the conservatives adopted is probably why Bar and Jenna keep opening their twats to take the big ones cumming on the midnight sidewalks of every dusty Texas town between San Antonio and Longview
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 10:34:17 (EDT)

My two cents are: That Trudea character really knows how to grovel. Probably took apology lessons from Klintoon, who even though he did "apologise", couldn't resist continuing to think that Judge Starr was a dipshit. Where are the real apologies? Where is the copping to youthful indescretion and experimentation? Trudeau, Klintoon, and Drudge = peas in a pod.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 10:29:20 (EDT)

My two cents are: I think somebody should write the webmaster and explain that Pete is dead and his golem is off in Africa fighting schistosomiasis. He probably has come to hate this page after listening to Pete's constant bitching about slow loading or getting frozen up by the banner Java. Maybe he'll cough up the lost pickles. On the other hand, maybe it's best to let sleeping dogs lie.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 10:23:01 (EDT)

My two cents are: You do know that the story about Presidential IQ's that you used in your strip is an Internet hoax, do you not? People that print things as vile and false as you did do not care what the truth actually is. -- Kerry Wilson, Carrolton What kind of ignorant piece of white trash do you need to be to try to use some fake IQ study to hurt the name of the leader of the free world? -- Joseph Dirt, Winston-Salem Not surprising from a Mamby Pamby Commie Pinko Liberal like yourself. Must be real depressing for you to realize that even I know you're full of it. If I know you're lying, everyone must know you're a liberal liar. -- Steve Chapman, Goose Creek Damn Liberal Freak! You are nothing but a scumbag, pal. -- Chad Brewer, Gadsden You're a moron. Have a good day. -- Andy Bailey Many thoughtful readers, including those sampled above, have expressed an interest in the "Presidential IQ" story, an internet hoax which was portrayed as factual in a recent strip. This was a regrettable error, although perhaps inevitable, given that this feature uses the same fact-checking house as Saturday Night Live and The Drudge Report. Trudeau takes full responsibility, acknowledging the use of fictional material from an outside source instead of simply making it up as he usually does. The creator deeply apologizes for unsettling anyone who was under the impression that the President is, in fact, quite intelligent.
on his knees
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 10:21:37 (EDT)

My two cents are: Really? I always figured he was playing hide the weenie with Dennis's mom.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 10:19:00 (EDT)

My two cents are: Mr. Wilson was a pedophile.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 10:09:47 (EDT)

My two cents are: Did you ever see Little Orphan Annie? Try to tell me that that Punjabi bastard isn't dipping into the white meat.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 08:47:01 (EDT)

My two cents are: Yeah, well what about Kathy? She spends her whole life looking for Mr. Goodbar. Does she ever get any pork sword at all? And don't even think about what Mark Trail does with that St. Bernard when the cabin door is closed.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 08:43:32 (EDT)

My two cents are: Dagwood my ass. The real horn-dog of the funny pages and the real twat sewn shut who couples with him behind the panels are Hi and Lois. Did you ever take a close look at Lois's crotch area? Not to mention Miss Buxley, who is gang-shagging with Beetle, Killer, Zero, Lieutenant Fuzz, General Halftrack, and almost everyone else in that strip. About the only character in Beetle Baily who isn't getting his knob polished off-panel is Sarge. The way Sluggo goes at Nancy when Aunt Fritzie is away pales in comparison.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 08:41:19 (EDT)

My two cents are: I don't know, anonymous. Jeremiah has vague memories of Klintoon having used corrupt accounting tricks to make it seem as if everybody was making more money than they really were. If this is true, then the Republican administration has not caused this economy to slide towards the tank by cynically destabilizing the country's central systems. If it were not true, we would be faced with the laughable explanation that Bush is a traitor and enEmy of America.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 08:34:33 (EDT)

My two cents are: It's Republican policy, dork, to put the country in dire financial straits in order to erode government's stranglehold on America. Reagan did it, the elected Bush would have done it if he hadn't been homosexual, and whoever is pulling W's strings is trying it. Notice the way they are changing the mood toward acceptance of buying faith-based defense with IOU's to Social Security. Once you destroy SS, you have removed the closest relationship between government and a citizen's future, and this will further reduce citizen participation in government and make a Republican oligarchy easier to achieve and maintain. This is the only possible explanation for the missile defense scheme, its role in pissing away the personal security of less well-to-do or disabled Americans, if you discount the need to continue government handouts to defense hardware contractors. Sure, some people have to suffer, but it's the only way to ultimately beat down wages, get America's losers off the backs of American winners, and grow the bank accounts of those who have had the entrepreneurial moxie to inherit great wealth. If we could get only 15 or 20% of American workers to hit the bricks, we could develop a cushion of obsequious hoboes and wouldn't have to let all these Mexicans in to mop our floors and pick our prunes. Let's get on with it.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 08:27:39 (EDT)

My two cents are: Dagwood has been getting away with murder for years. There is no doubt that Blondie is giving him blow-jobs behind closed doors. She probably has a closet-full of stained dresses. A national scandal.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 08:14:22 (EDT)

My two cents are: Yes, it's true, now we all get the chance to listen hard to the Reichwing spin as they tell us that Clinton balancing the budget was BAAAD and that Junior de-balancing the budget and pissing away the Clinton surplus is GOOOOOD. Some silly gourds even believe this nonsense. They're the kind of people who try to turn child molesters into folk heroes. K-K-Koresh.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 07:39:02 (EDT)

My two cents are: Nice to see Trudeau finally brought to his knees. Our national nightmare is over. Next on the hit list: The Katzen-fucking-jammer Kids!
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 07:38:05 (EDT)

My two cents are: A lot of what passes for political or social "analysis" on this site is anglophilic liberal trash that makes me puke. A head of state is a head of state, and we have to back the one we have. Who cares if the socialist queen of perfidious England doesn't like the way our President's rectum has been wiped, or the brand of pomade he uses on his hair? We fought a war so we didnt' have to grovel to British royalty, and Reagan was right in not taking any special hygenic measures when he went over there. The rest of the world wipes its ass with newspaper or with a clawed left hand, and have no cause to bitch. The Satrap of Oman can bake in the sun forever as far as his opinions are going to have any effect on the price of corn in Nebraska. This glorification of Janet Reno is another thing that should sicken good Americans. Every time a citizen bought a bunch of machine-guns and barricaded himself and his family in a cabin or barn or bungalow her first instinct was to slip the leash on the homosexual FBI and send in the jack-booted thugs and the Bradley armored vehicles. Just like the California energy crisis, all this did was take law officers away from dealing with black crime. As for guns, let's stop the flow of drugs into this country and see how it drops the numbers of self-inflicted gunshot wounds. And let's vote down Dingel-Norwood, whatever the hell that hilarious-sounding measure is.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 07:22:42 (EDT)

My two cents are: Jerry, you sound kind of unhooked. But the part about Klintoon changing the "reporting methods" was hilarious. Also, yesterday when you said, "IT'S FRIDAY!" were you pretending to be a guy whose workweek was coming to a close and looking forward to fun times this weekend with your ugly family? Or were you celebrating the fact that Saturday is the day the wife gives you your allowance? When you say you have "work to be done," are we talking about making the bed?
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 06:50:28 (EDT)

My two cents are: Boy, the garbage here is truly amazing. If I remember right, Komrade Klintoon had methods of reporting growth changed so as to make it appear that the economy was functioning better than it actually was. Yep, Reno will take care of Florida dandily. If anyone rises up she will shot'em all and say she is protecting the children. Typical dumocrat bull, just like Bro. Jesse was servicing his ho while consulting and consoling Klintoon on how not to stain dresses. /////// Hey, moron, it is NOT the weapon; it is the operator of the weapon that provides the end result whether it be death, mutilation, etc. People have been murdering each other since the beginning of time. Their deaths are real, only the methods have changed. What really is amazing is the fact that all the "youth" deaths that are claimed to be from accidental shootings when in reality the majority of the deaths are either drug related, gang bangers or both. /////// Gotta go, work to be done. Sorry to disappoint you anon, but I have to work for a living. I don't get free dumcrat handouts. /////// Hey, ymutt, how come you and e don't have the courage to post your names, too ashamed?
Jeremiah
United States of America - Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 04:08:12 (EDT)

My two cents are: Oversized belt buckle. Maybe he got a hernia from hauling lumber, rocks, dirt, and the buckle serves as a truss.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 08, 2001 at 00:13:29 (EDT)

My two cents are: Well, I for one don't regret the "courtesy" of those times. If my President is getting his ashes hauled in the White House, I by God want to know about it. Suppose Ronald Reagan left Alzheimerian skid-marks on eight years of Presidential undies? Shouldn't those undies be sent to the FBI forensic labs for DNA analysis? Dirty laundry is dirty laundry, especially if it might be evidence of Presidential inattentiveness to proper rectal hygiene. Suppose he was negotiating sensitive trade agreements with the Satrap of Oman, and all the Satrap could think about was the stench from Reagan's half-wiped anus? Is this not the people's business? It is about time this country got its priorities set straight, and stop coddling presidents and making allowances for them. What is it, for example, with that oversized belt buckle on the young President* now in office? Is this some sort of secret signal for chorus girls, or is it just an affectation of Texas-ness like the new ranch? The FBI should confiscate that buckle, or at least have it scraped for samples. Let's start cleaning up these bastards-- they are, after all, our Heads of State, and the only people we can send to the Queen's funeral when the old lady shuffles off this mortal coil. Do we want to be sending a smelly-assed, Brylcreemed, senile, monkey-faced old fart, or a jug-eared kid with joy-juice on his belt buckle? Think it over, America.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 23:11:48 (EDT)

My two cents are: We may never know exactly what went on, but my opinion is that Reagan was not hampered in the loins by the brain damage, and that the whole eight years he was pretty much pumping away like the Sultan of Turkey. The reason it didn't come out was that the liberal press and the Democratic politicians are all a bunch of horn-dogs and open twats waiting for big ones cumming, and lived in glass houses. Also, nobody every really thought of Reagan as a President, but more as sort of a Master of Ceremonies at the USA Club, and an MC is allowed to frolic with the housemaids. Reagan didn't shave his armpits for nothing, in my opinion, although I have no idea what perverted practice he put the pits to once they were hairless. We can be pretty sure, whatever it was didn't drop out of his sexual repertoire just because they cast him as President. We can be pretty sure that Mike Deaver and the Germans brought in plenty of young nookie to help him with whatever it was. Those were more courteous times, though, and the media and the opposition politicians didn't rub America's nose in it.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 22:36:57 (EDT)

My two cents are: People say that Reagan was too dumb to figure out a way to get pussy into the White House, but I tend to disagree. His wife, Nancy, was no smarter than he was, yet she still managed to wrap her lips around Frank Sinatra's schwanstukka in the Lincoln Bedroom. As noted by a famous Hollywood actor in his autobiography, she was known for giving the best head south of Los Banos, and she apparently carried this talent into the First Ladyhood. Reagan himself, it's hard to tell what Bonzo got himself up to behind closed doors, whether he continued to rape starlets or whether his blood had cooled. Maybe the early-onset Alzheimer's affected his tool, and this was why Nancy had to bring in whatever syncophantic mafioso she could find who would submit to her oral attention. It's all a pretty hazy area, and we may never know exactly what went on.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 22:12:48 (EDT)

My two cents are: This stuff about the feds buying all the stocks is well and good, but did you ever think about how many stocks would be left over for you and me to get rich on? Sure, it would drive up stock prices, but once we sold and made the killing, what else would there be for us to do? We couldn't buy, because prices would remain high, backed by the stock-fat US Treasury. If Pete hadn't died, maybe he could write an open letter that would straighten all this out. This one might pass editing by the freep and work its way up high into the councils of government.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 22:04:33 (EDT)

My two cents are: If the damn Republicans had been on the ball when they were running things early on, they would have invested the whole federal budget in junk bonds instead of just the Social Security trust fund. Then all any of us would have to do would be sit back and watch the money flood in. Pretty soon the federal government would have a majority interest in every company on every stock market on the planet. The poor President would have to spend so much time flitting from board meeting to board meeting that he'd never get any pussy at all, even legal pussy. We'd have both a privatized budget or a federalized business community, as well as a sex-free White House. Almost too good to hope for.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 21:53:27 (EDT)

My two cents are: Gary, forget about IQ's. You should zero in on the razor topped chain link fencing.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 21:49:13 (EDT)

My two cents are: I sort of feel that Drudge and Trudeau deserve each other. It would be nice to be able to drop them both in a mayonnaise jar and watch them fight it out like ants.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 21:48:13 (EDT)

My two cents are: Does anyone else get the eerie feeling that Glint thinks of Gary Trudeau as some sort of liberal icon?
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 21:46:28 (EDT)

My two cents are: Now, if you'll quit reading Nancy and Sluggo and Family Circle, you'll have more free time for star-gazing.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 21:42:55 (EDT)

My two cents are: If Social Security were a private pension plan instead of federal survival pay for old folks and the disabled, it would have invested to produce future benefits instead of buying nothing but Treasury IOU's. And if it were an eight-year-old kid it would have invested in E-tickets at Disneyland. If it were a frog and had wings it wouldn't even have to bump its ass jumping.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 21:40:49 (EDT)

My two cents are: I subscribe to the theory that Doonsbury swallowed that hoax hook, line, and sinker and was compelled to -- get this! -- apologize!! I'm glad Drudge pointed it out early on becuase I quit reading Doonsbury 20 years ago.
Glint
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 21:37:30 (EDT)

My two cents are: Why are Republicans so sensitive about the intelligence of their champions? Sure, they've run more than a few goobers for president, and were the proud party of Ford, Reagan, and the Bushes, but they've had some smart guys too. Richard Nixon, for instance, was a fairly sharp guy, if not great at small talk and only moderately insane when he stayed sober. Herbert Hoover was a managerial genius as well as a guy with great talent for wringing his hands as he watched the country tank. Calvin Coolidge was an Einstein, as far as anyone could tell. Warren G. Harding was at least smart enough to get plenty of pussy in the Oval Office. No, the Republicans have no cause to feel shame just because their recent presidents have been dim bulbs. If they had been smart, like Harding, they too might have brought shame into the White House and spotted the blue dresses of America's daughters.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 21:34:36 (EDT)

My two cents are: Last year the federal government was projecting huge budget surpluses for many years into the future. (Of course, these "surpluses" were largely the result of including actuarial prepayments to Social Security, which in a private pension plan would have been invested to produce future benefits instead of being spent, but that�s another story.) These projected surpluses gave Clinton and a Republican-controlled Congress an excuse to bust their own spending caps by $94 billion, while Al Gore told us that the magical Surplus would pay for all of his proposed spending.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 21:34:33 (EDT)

My two cents are: Maybe like "One American out of work is too many Americans out of work."
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 21:29:40 (EDT)

My two cents are: So, Glint, let's nail this down. Does this mean that you subscribe to the theory that Bush has more than half of Clinton's IQ points, and that his vocabulary includes substantially more than half the words in the average presidential vocabulary? Careful, now. Don't go out on a limb, here.
House of Meat
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 21:24:21 (EDT)

My two cents are: Vocabulary? What vocabulary.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 21:22:56 (EDT)

My two cents are: Another liberal feasting on crow who got it wrong about Dubya's IQ. Icing on the cake is he's going down swinging like a girl {BWA!} >>> COMIC-strip creator Garry Trudeau was duped by a flimsy Internet hoax on presidential IQs, and has had to apologize to President Bush. Tomorrow's "Doonesbury" features a purported conversation between Bush and a White House adviser, and cites as fact a nonexistent study claiming that Bush has half the IQ of former President Bill Clinton and a little more than half the average presidential vocabulary. Trudeau, husband of Jane Pauley, ran an apology on his strip's Web site, saying, "[The strip] was a regrettable error, although perhaps inevitable, given that this feature uses the same fact-checking house as �Saturday Night Live' and �The Drudge Report.'" The comment was a potshot at Matt Drudge who, days earlier, had broken the news of the "Doonesbury" blunder...
Glint
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 21:14:54 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 21:13:15 (EDT)

My two cents are: Nope, Glimpse, you got it wrong, the past seven years is the seven the politicians didn't dip into the SS and Medicare funds, because of the Clinton surplus they didn't need to. The way you dip, of course, is with IOU's, treasury bonds, that have to be paid back, which is the national debt and hasn't gone anywhere. Before Clinton, the trust funds were available to Democrats to provide government services and for Republicans to give in tax cuts and corporate welfare to their golf buddies. The interesting switcheroo is that the Repubs used to paint themselves as the balanced budget party, the fiscal responsibility boys, but now they've changed places with the Dems and are the budget busters. Another interesting switch is the way soi-disant "conservatives" are now the folks who rant and rail because law enforcement went up against somebody breaking laws, and try to make an innocent of this poor sick Koresh yahoo. Back in Nixon times, the Republicans were the party of "law 'n' order", although that was just a code word for keeping the negras down.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 21:12:17 (EDT)

My two cents are: Profits over Pollution - the Bush motto.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 21:07:34 (EDT)

My two cents are: The administration and the secretaries of Defense and State have denounced the removal by Isreal of Palestinian terrorists. However, I think that behind the diplomatic language our govornment understands that the attacks by the Palestinians against the Israelies cannot be handled diplomatically, politically, or legally (police action). The violence is from what the Palestinians call the Intifada (however they spell it out in English) which is a holy war. Isreal has a war on their hands and so they have to protect their people by eliminating those who would do them harm. I say let them have it.
Glint
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 21:02:11 (EDT)

My two cents are: No offense to Tom, but that cut and paste earlier was a very disjointed and rambling rant. Typical Democrat journalism. If you don't have the truth on your side, use invective and hate. The truth is, even if the "First Idiot" dips into the S.S. surplus for a few $B it's a drop in the bucket from the looting that went on during the previous 7 years. Also, nobody who followed Clinton's yuck yuck Middle East policy is the least bit surprised at the violence going on. The only thing that has happened to change the course of the last 7 years is Israel decided to stop giving away land for peace that never comes. Surgically popping a few Palestinian boils is a solution whose turn has come. I'd like to have some of those helicopter-mounted rocket launchers to use during rush hour.
Glint
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 20:56:33 (EDT)

My two cents are: I really believe that GW is ready to graduate from reading The Very Hungry Caterpillar. Maybe I could suggest the M & M Counting Book.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 20:56:06 (EDT)

My two cents are: The thing is that even though it wasn't about sex, why was the president's cum all over it like chicken coop full of poop?
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 20:43:15 (EDT)

My two cents are: Well, looks like half of the ydogE show is here. Pete called him a blue dog Democrat. I prefer "blue dress Democrat" myself. He'd chew a patch of cum on a blue dress if it would make his president Billy out to not be a liar after all.
Glint
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 20:36:51 (EDT)

My two cents are: Reveal yourself and Turn into hman why don't you.
ask the webmaster
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 20:32:16 (EDT)

My two cents are: sorry, mr. telescope bubbie. your fella koresh had a taste for underage twat. lots and lotsa testimony to that effect. i know it's hard, and we all here at fornigate feel your pain, but hey, deal with it.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 20:31:06 (EDT)

My two cents are: Okay, okay, but you gotta admit he screwed over the economy, the formerly balanced budget, and the whole frickin' previously enviroment. Oh, and did I mention restarting the arms race? So solly that its the economy stupid. or rathter that it's Stupid's economy.
give it up, give it up now. yeah
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 20:28:27 (EDT)

My two cents are: " pedophile Koresh." that is a good one one - "bwa ha ha." Truth is, that's the lie Reno trotted out immediately after she accidentally murdered scores of people. Sort of like planting a gun on the dead unarmed "bad guy." I guess we know which Florida AG the accused cops down there learned that trick from Aunt Maude Reno! <> Observed until the moon rose. Was observing au natural except for a robe -- I know, more information than you needed. A technique long used by astronomers to increase dark adaption and contrast in the eyepiece is to observe with a hood wrapped over the head. I needed a little help to see a faint mag. 13.8 galaxy but I didn't have a hood. So I pulled the robe up and over my head. Good thing it was dark out. Hope none of my other neighbors have one of those electronic star light image intensifiers. You know, like the ones the bad guy (who really did have a gun) put on when he was trying to pop Jody Foster in the darkened house.
Glint
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 20:24:40 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 20:06:59 (EDT)

My two cents are: The junior could solve all his problems by rescinding tax cuts for anyone making over a million and a half a year. Everyone else could retain his pittance and we'd be fat again. But nobody said dismantling the United States of America was going to be easy, and the Snipster has been pointed in the right direction by his puppet masters. Who better to take the inevitable abuse but an ex-cheerleader, and a Bush to boot? This is a guy trained since prep-school to dodge the tossed beer-can, to wipe the egg off his chin with the sleeve of a letter sweater. His old man puked on the Grand Mahooki, for shit's sake, at a state dinner, and was a one-term president before him, got kicked out of office by the Governor of Arkansas, if the sorry truth be known. Sure, he's going to get licked. He been groomed since he was in Doctor Dentons to be the hole punched in somebody else's ticket. What else is new?
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 19:52:01 (EDT)

My two cents are: Ariana went mano a mano with the Twat Sewn Shut? What could they possibly talk about? Ariana is a society gal, an intellectual, a hot number, an original thinker. What could she achieve arguing with a cartoon? Like a lot of things I've heard here, it doesn't make sense.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 19:42:39 (EDT)

My two cents are: Hey, I like Ariana. Especially after I watched her go one on one with the anorexic one.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 18:46:03 (EDT)

My two cents are: Someone else is pulling the strings on this little jointed puppet, Arianna. At the present his modus operandi is getting the Mexicano vote.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 18:42:53 (EDT)

My two cents are: evil miscreants fear Reno in her house dress, as did pedophile Koresh. Brrrr.
bwa ha ha
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 18:38:22 (EDT)

My two cents are: Ya gotta give 'em credit: jUNIOR ruined the country in a few short months.
LICK BUSH!
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 18:31:26 (EDT)

My two cents are: Funny thing about Arianna, up to a few years ago she was just an intelligent version of Anne Coulter. She ran her queer husband for Senator in California, he lost, and she saw the light. Sort of a poor man's Maria.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 18:30:59 (EDT)

My two cents are: go arianna go
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 17:52:44 (EDT)

My two cents are: (Hope you like this cut and paste) An Administration with No Conscience or Principles: Arianna Huffington recently wrote about the administration's efforts to line coffers of defense contractors vis-a-vis the Missile Shield by greenlighting China's nuclear buildup. She writes: "The time has come to ask: If launching a moon-shot scale defense project with less than a moon-shot likelihood of success means living in a world that's much more heavily armed with nuclear weapons, why are we doing it?" The following is a first stab at answering that generic question on what appears to be this administration's illogical and insane modus operandi: Why are they doing this? Why are they embracing greater danger under the auspices of their claim to be reducing it? Because this is a no-talent administration with no conscience and no moral principles undergirding its actions, which appear to be no more than making (and stealing) money for a select few. For them, trouble is an opportunity for exploitation, so manipulating that trouble is merely the first step, just as it appears that "trouble" was manufactured in California's energy crisis. Two corporations are going bankrupt here in Oregon, but the First Idiot says it is a good thing we have a weak economy depriving us of a surplus. This is the first time I have ever heard a president revel in economic misfortune that hits real people and real companies. One supposes that it pays to be one of the "pioneer" corporations, and it's a hearty "who cares what you think?" for the others. This man others call "President" has zero morals and no intellectual insight. Observe the continuing tragedy of the Middle East. In one stupid, astonishing visit by Sharon to the Temple Mount, seven years of work was wiped out. At the time I could not think of anything more calculated to drive every Palestinian on earth into an emotional rage of epic proportions. Sharon is like a minor Hitler to these people. Who gave him permission to wipe out seven years of work? It is clear that there truly IS nothing we can do about the terrorist, the one willing to destroy all progress in one quick blow, and it is now also clear that the right-wingers of Israel will NEVER allow the sacrifices necessary to forge a "real politick" peace in this region where East meets West. (The Jewish-Palestinian thing - IMO, that's just a sub-plot). As someone who feels the weight of the Christian West and its blood guilt, God forgive us for what we have done, in this and the last century, to Jews and Palestinians. One group of politicians will never resolve this because mere politics is never enough with such an enormous existential matter and crisis, and the other group will benefit from destroying any attempts at peace made in the interim. Only the truthtellers, prepared to recognize the crushing burden of Real East-West Politicks, and at the same time prepared to make an historical plea for 100-year forgiveness for what our culture has wrought, have ANY shot at making any inroads here. And that means we need to look at current events and ask the first question: Who in HELL gave Sharon permission to lord it over Palestinians at the Temple Mount? Whoever that person(s) is, is the enemy of humanity. An old right-wing, highly religious conservative friend of mine, very well-traveled and who lived in the Middle East, once said to me, when it comes to the U.S., the name of the game is to stir up trouble. That's the problem with the Republican party -- in the absence of a genuine cold war, it has no raison d'etre, so it is now rationalizing its evil actions and strategies to maintain the shell of itself in power, up to and including stealing an election, neutering our representatives, and torpedoing peace in a region that, newly offended and freshly polarized, will justify its life blood - the corporate-militarist taxpayer-funded feeding frenzies - as distinguished from supplying the grunt, who had to get in and out fast in the Gulf War before those supplies ran out. These are evil people. It is as if my country is a child I know is being abused in another home, but I am powerless to do anything to protect her.
Tom
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 17:45:53 (EDT)

My two cents are: Hi guys. That drink recipe down there looks pretty good. Next time I'm trying to pick up a chick in a Cincinatti bar I'll buy her an aunt Jamima. Lord, that's funny. You guys are really walking the line here.
Tom
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 17:42:57 (EDT)

My two cents are: I could use a good cut and paste about now. C'mon people!
Harlan St. Wolf
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 16:42:49 (EDT)

My two cents are: http://www.80-proof.net/drinks/drink_dtl.asp?drinkid=127
slurp her every last drop!
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 13:16:50 (EDT)

My two cents are: http://www.marys-antiques.com/black_memorabilia/ms_009.htm
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 13:07:48 (EDT)

My two cents are: http://rinkworks.com/dialect/dialectp.cgi?dialect=jive&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bangkok.com%2Ffornigate%2Fgb.shtml
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 12:56:57 (EDT)

My two cents are: That kind of parody always cracks me up. Whooey! Dat. Dey. Too much. Great negro dialect, dude!
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 12:55:27 (EDT)

My two cents are: Dey found Jimmy Hoffa's hair in a old beat up cah. I wonder if dey found it in wunna dem cup holders? I tink da investigators needs to aks if it coulda fallen off a soda can.
Anita Hill
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 12:11:16 (EDT)

My two cents are: http://interestalert.com/brand/siteia.shtml?Story=storage/qm/09070002aaa04421.nafr&Type=News&Sys=quotemedia&Fid=FRONTPAG&Filter=Front%20Page
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 12:00:20 (EDT)

My two cents are: Like I said, Hoover Lite.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 11:09:40 (EDT)

My two cents are: below 9600 now....can anyone get a telegraph through the the bongo beaters? this is urgent!
webvan.com
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 11:01:39 (EDT)

My two cents are: Bet the webvan employees are broken hearted. Who wouldn't miss working in a cubicle maze like this: http://webvan.com/lasvegas/furniture-layout-1.gif. Course the cubes themselves look like something the cat threw up: http://webvan.com//fostercity/furniture-photo-3.jpg
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 10:23:45 (EDT)

My two cents are: djia is about ready to dip below 9600! i wonder if pete's lap top's cell phone can reach ameritrade!
webvan.com
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 10:14:18 (EDT)

My two cents are: What are you waiting for? The deadline for advance registering for the Judicial Watch annual conference is only days away now. If I don't hear from you by Monday, I will be forced to release your registration to someone who is not currently on my priority invitation list. And, then you'll miss the chance to hear and speak with educational, inspirational and motivational guests such as Judge Sander Sauls, Governor Jeb Bush and others who have been invited. You can register on line, or get more information -- including a complete list of invited guests -- at www.JudicialWatch.org. And there is more....We have just been given notice that for five days leading into the conference our case against Janet Reno and officials in the INS will be heard in a Miami courtroom. As your bonus for registering now, if you arrive a day or so early in Miami, you can see our work first hand in court. I will email you details when you register.
LARRY KLAYMAN
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 10:09:45 (EDT)

My two cents are: Guns are tools...like saws, hammers, chain saws, even crocodile hats.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 10:02:49 (EDT)

My two cents are: Far be it for me to disparage in any way mature women striking out toward a new life and career but, don't the pictures of Reno this week (house dresses, Crocodile Dundee hats) give you that "Aunt Maude is loose again in her nightie and crossing against the light at Fourth St. and Elm!" look? Campaigning on Clinton's accomplishments will fit right in.

- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 08:41:53 (EDT)

My two cents are: The always informative Capitol Hill Blue tells us that Mr. Condit (if you please, even though his kids call him "Gary") intends to set his own time table for leaving and thinks the end of his term would suit him just fine. We're beginning to think that's just fine. Let him hang around the dems necks as they start to crank up their campaigns. Sit, Mr. Condit. Stay.
the anti E
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 08:39:12 (EDT)

My two cents are: I have an old DOS 5 manual laying around and have confirmed there was indeed an UNDELETE. I don't know what they've done with it. They've tried so hard to pull the windows circus tent down over the orgy of DOS elephants that they might have changed some names. But on the other hand the little icon says "DOS" and opens up a shell that looks and quacks like DOS until you try to enter a simple, though infrequently used, command like undelete. I think MS tried to have it both ways and wound up with a half assed DOS gui and the other half of the ass is the DOS shell. Even if there was a Linux solution this particular machine doesn't have Linux installed on it. My CD ROMmed version of Linux doesn't seem to want to work on a machine with an AMD Athlon brain. I'll take the 1993 OS/2 Warp 3 over Windoze ME any day. It's still ahead of its time.
Glint
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 08:35:01 (EDT)

My two cents are: I'll bet there is a freeware program out there that can ape NU undelete. There may even be one in Linux that can reach over and monkey with DOS.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 07:48:52 (EDT)

My two cents are: I don't remember that there ever was an undelete command in DOS. You had to have Norton Utilities. Maybe MicroSoft added it after they added scandisk from Norton, but I never remember it being there. The wastebasket was the first Windows attempt to deal with mistaken deletions, a typical clunky bloatware approach, and you may have tweaked it so you didn't have to go through the confirmation dialogues, which was a good thing to do but backfired in this case. If you deleted in DOS the file is probably in there, minus the first letter of the file name. I could send you NU Undelete, but it's on 5 1/2-inch flops. As an alternative, I have the pickle up to August 24, and could send it for a small fee. This, however, doesn't solve the problem of the missing 18 1/2 minute tape, the mysterious blank in the record toward the end of August. I'd go easy on Adam-- he sounded a little curt, hostile even, and too many importuning e-mails could push him over the edge and cause him to cut off the nose of Bangkok.com to spite its face. He's a liberal, and there's no telling what dastardly tactics he may employ. This could be a trap.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 07:46:56 (EDT)

My two cents are: Drudge is reporting the DOW is down 150 points in first 10 minutes of market open, but it looks like it's turning back up now: http://www.thomsonfn.com/graphics/intraday/nyse_indicy.gif
webvan.com
- Friday, September 07, 2001 at 07:17:34 (EDT)

My two cents are: Good morning to all, and especially to Jeremiah on this Friday. I e-mailed webmaster Adam asking for temporary access to the pickle brine but he hasn't returned any of my mail. Probably means his work is keeping him busy. Or perhaps he's taken a proprietary view as he contemplates the shimmering green specular glints of the light shining through the jar in his lap. Might be he whacked the file and John's now got it with him. <> The remote server timed out while uploading the file using an ftp client. While in ftp I accidentally dropped and broke my copy of the jar. I was in the wrong directory at the wrong time. Now, there must be some way to get the file back but I'm not a Windoze weenie and the machine that it was on was. The ftp client was running in a DOS window so I used the old DOS "undelete" command and Bill Gates started laughing through the speakers saying that the command was not foundd pulling the trigger. But then again in our society we don't seem to be responsible for our actions. \\\\\\\\ IT'S FRIDAY!!!!!!!
Jeremiah
United States of America - Friday, September 07, 2001 at 04:31:54 (EDT)

My two cents are: Instead of anti-gun would Heston consider anti-bullets?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 21:00:10 (EDT)

My two cents are: He may have been a shit, but he always confessed in the end, always copped to the truth when the deal went down. Compare that to some of these yahoos who are still feigning respect for Linda Tripp, or claiming that they think W won the election fair and square.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 20:59:57 (EDT)

My two cents are: He was against the nanny state. Nanny relatives and nanny friends, those were the ones he highly esteemed.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 20:53:10 (EDT)

My two cents are: In a shocking turn of events last week, National Rifle Association President Charlton Heston declared that he will NOT accept the presidency of the National POT Association, and instead will stand a fourth term as the president of the NRA. While Heston says he was simply answering the demands of fellow NRA members, many outside the pro-gun network have protested the former Moses (1956, The Ten Commandments) turned anti-Christ (1997, First term as NRA president) and his refusal to admit that guns, in fact, do kill people. Popular Vote First Lady, Tipper Gore, actress Susan Sarandon and Million Mom March Leader Stacey Newman each expressed their outrage at organized protests in opposition to Heston�s leadership. Asked to comment on the protests, Mr. Heston said, �what, they�re just some bitches who deserve to be shot.� He went on to classify those others who protested as �some hippies who deserve to be shot,� �some queers who deserve to be shot,� and �some non-white freaks who deserve to be shot.� When asked how we can rid this country of poverty, Mr. Heston said, �we can shoot all the poor people,� and when asked how the U.S. can adequately function as a diplomatic country in the world, Mr. Heston calmly stated, �we can shoot all non-American, foreign freaks.� (Off the record, Mr. Heston then said, �it is our 2nd Amendment right to shoot everyone,� but since that statement was off the record, I�ve decided not to include it.) I then asked Mr. Heston if he could, in one word, summarize recent gun violence incidents in elementary schools, and he appropriately said, �SHOOT� I don�t know.� Mr. Heston said his hobbies including listening to the Shoo-Tang Clan, eating Shootaki mushrooms, and riding his motor shooter. Heston has three kids, named �Shooter,� �Shoota,� and �Sho-Ot,� and he tried for a 4th but, well, as the NRA motto has warned us, �Shoot happens.� His favorite bumper stickers read �Shoot your holes, you freakin� liberals,� and �Stop shooting heroin - start shooting heroin users.� Finally I asked Mr. Heston if he was really suggesting that we shoot everyone, and upon walking away, he calmly said, �Hey if the shoot fits�..�
Drudge Report
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 20:48:02 (EDT)

My two cents are: That extra s in "occasional" is like a signature. Lose it.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 20:47:13 (EDT)

My two cents are: MK was prone to the occassional miscalculation, sure, but the guy sure had the nanny state sussed. Just though the polyp removal isn't on my dime, I hope the lying little shit survives. But I know it is on my dime. Who else is going to cover it? This guy had burned all employment bridges behind him and was one step from the welfare line.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 20:45:12 (EDT)

My two cents are: Tom must have hit the Wild Turkey a little too hard after the Simpsons. Either that or he's back to eyelid-popping the mescal extract.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 20:43:53 (EDT)

My two cents are: Star Wars sucked. Bunch of actors running around shooting ray-guns at each other.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 20:41:29 (EDT)

My two cents are: Oh rats, no upload. Now I'll never know what wasn't said during the period I wasn't here.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 20:40:38 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 20:35:24 (EDT)

My two cents are: Poor people don't deserve to watch fireworks. Let them make their own fireworks. Light an entire book of matches, throw them skyward.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 20:33:50 (EDT)

My two cents are: Say, somebody mentioned that MK got polyps up his ass and had to quit the site. Is that true? Did the poor bastard really wind up with polyps up his poop-chute? He always said that there was a one in a million chance that he would ever get polyps. Go figure.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 20:32:38 (EDT)

My two cents are: Lemme tell y'all, those fireworks are nothin' compared to my here Star Wars show. You want fireworks, well dagnabbit, you're gonna have them.
*
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 20:31:54 (EDT)

My two cents are: Russian Rocket Burns Up in Atmosphere By AMY WESTFELDT, Associated Press Writer A Russian rocket that had orbited the Earth since 1975 re-entered the atmosphere Thursday, its fiery debris creating a spectacular early-morning light show along much of the East Coast. ``It was kind of sparkling a little bit, almost like it was on fire,'' said John Yeomans, who saw it at 6 a.m. as he and his wife were drinking coffee at home in Smyrna, Del. ``It left just an incredible trail.'' The SL3 rocket body re-entered the atmosphere over the Atlantic Ocean about 100 miles off Delaware, said Navy Cmdr. Rod Gibbons, a spokesman for the U.S. Space Command at Colorado Springs, Colo. ``The object was not designed to survive re-entry'' and probably burned up before any pieces could reach the ground, Gibbons said. People from Massachusetts to North Carolina reported seeing the fiery return of the rocket, which put up a satellite 26 years ago. The National Weather Service (news - web sites) and the Naval Observatory at first speculated that the object was a meteor. Naval Observatory spokesman Geoff Chester later concurred that it was a Russian rocket. ``The satellite itself came down in 1992,'' Chester said. ``And this is basically the gas tank that got it up there.'' Gibbons said the rocket was one of 8,300 manmade objects the center is tracking in space. Some 17,000 such objects have re-entered Earth's atmosphere since the late 1950s, he said. The center began stepping up its surveillance of the rocket a week ago. Gibbons said the Space Command generally cannot predict when and where an object will re-enter the atmosphere. Charles Tekula, 49, a fisherman on New York's Long Island, was with his son when he saw the sky light up. ``At first I thought it was a jetliner coming toward us, but then I saw a smoke trail,'' he said. ``My son said it looked like a big, slow-moving firework across the sky. We were speechless. It was the most fantastic thing I'd ever seen.'' Yeomans, a captain with the Delaware State Police, said he saw a dark mass that gave off a reddish-white glow, followed by a grayish smoky trail that lingered several minutes after the object faded from sight. ``It was weird, totally weird,'' he said.
who needs fireworks
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 20:28:29 (EDT)

My two cents are: Weezer quit the business and is working as a deckhand on an Illinois River barge. He is watching the development of George W.'s maritime policy closely.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 20:26:01 (EDT)

My two cents are: He's right. Woody Harrelson IS the Anti-Heston.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 20:25:24 (EDT)

My two cents are: Hold the Mil's Best, the carrots, and the Cheetos. I'll just take one of the spuds.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 20:21:58 (EDT)

My two cents are: There should be special fireworks shows for poor people. They deserve fireworks just as much as rich people. Maybe down by the docks, or over by the dump.
Larry King
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 20:20:44 (EDT)

My two cents are: Fireworks always seem a little better if you know that poor people aren't seeing them.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 20:18:15 (EDT)

My two cents are: Unless Congress does something to control the rising prices of gas, I'm gonna start walking to that 7-11 around the corner instead of driving . . . .Is there anything better than pancakes at Noon? YES!: Pancakes at 3am . . . . Canada is cool . . . . Whatever happened to Weezer?...If I had to entertain with only $10 in my pocket, the only smart way to do it is with a 12-pack of Milwaukee's Best, a bag of potatoes, carrots and Cheetos -- case closed! . . . . I've been covering Federal Appeals Court Cases for a long time, gang, and let me tell you, that Napster decision was fucked up!. . . . You know what I said before about pancakes? I could say the same about ESPN's SportsCenter . . . . If you think about it, isn't Woody Harrelson the OPPOSITE of Charlton Heston? . . . . The next time you pick up a Gatorade, get yourself the High Tide flavor. You'll thank me...For my money, there is no greater actor than Jackie Chan. He'll fuck you up! . . . . If you don't like the comic strip Calvin And Hobbes, you are literally nuts . . . . What if the Buddhists are right and the whole universe takes place inside a lotus blossum. Whoa! Stepher Hawking never mentioned it in "A Brief History Of Time", but maybe I forgot; I was pretty baked when I read that. . . . If you asked me, gang, I'm not really into the new Dave Matthews album. It's too pop . . . . No matter how long it's been since you've played, there is nothing quite as pleasurable as a good game of foosball.
Larry King
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 20:16:36 (EDT)

My two cents are: No wonder it was a no-frills menu.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 20:15:00 (EDT)

My two cents are: XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX WED SEPT 05, 2001 22:31:58 ET XXXXX FIREWORKS FOR THE FEW, WHITE HOUSE FEARED CROWD; COST ESTIMATED IN SIX-FIGURES Taxpayers may have footed the bill, but White House officials wanted no pre-publicity for a massive fireworks display on The Mall Wednesday night celebrating President Bush's first State Dinner. The common man was not invited to view the 20-minute fireworks display launched from The Ellipse, described as one of the most dazzling in the city's history. Officials feared tens of thousands of residents and visitors would gather to watch the show if word leaked out, creating a "security concern" around the executive mansion. The president and his guests watched the fireworks from the White House's South Balcony. The cost of the display is said to be $175,000 to $250,000. A source connected to the Pennsylvania pyrotechnic company responsible for lighting the fireworks, Zambelli Fireworks Internationale, told the DRUDGE REPORT show fees ran into "six figures". With just 136 invited guests at the White House -- the price tag for the fireworks alone was well north of $1,200 per attendee. A White House spokesman refused comment on the financing of the fireworks. The secret fireworks show caught residents by complete surprise. One local e-mailed: "From my apartment, I just witnessed the most amazing fireworks I have seen in my twenty years in Washington." A second eyewitness described the show as being "one of the very best fireworks displays I've ever seen. "The display I saw tonight had many, *many* fancier fireworks than the ones used on the Fourth of July. Tonight there were fireworks that shot up, in three colors, a sort of planet, with a ring around it in another color; a firework that shot off a central band of white explosion and a sort of wheat-sheaf of fireworks in other colors both above and below the band; a firework that shot off hundreds of massive white streamers each of then exploded into five more small streamers. I go into this detail only to say how fancy and beautiful the whole thing was." Park police estimated less than 100 people quickly gathered to watch from public space surrounding The Ellipse.
Read it and weep, socialist traitors
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 19:53:40 (EDT)

My two cents are: Bad news. The upload failed and file went down the bit bucket.
Glint
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 19:14:45 (EDT)

My two cents are: Stay away from fornigate, Tom. Try to hang on to whatever class a guy from Bakersfield might have. Don't ruin your life before it's even hit high gear. BC might take you as a late matriculant. And there's always Sonny Bono Bible College in Tustin. Tustin isn't so far away. You could thumb home on weekends. SBBC believes in giving guys like you a second chance.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 19:13:25 (EDT)

My two cents are: Ditto that doink, anonymous.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 19:09:43 (EDT)

My two cents are: Tom was a second-class citizen the day he was born. The dude lives in Bakersfield, for Christ's sake.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 19:08:39 (EDT)

My two cents are: We should have listened to Pete. Ever since the troglodytes became Kings of the Hill the webmaster has treated Fornigate as if it's not a central feature of the bangkok.com empire. The 11 to 22 of us, plus Tom, have become second-class citizens. They care more about scrawny little foreigners pulling rickshaws around the streets of Bangkok than they do about true-blue American heroes and philosophers. What can one say but "doink?"
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 19:07:08 (EDT)

My two cents are: The snarling webmaster. Must have got some hairs up his butt.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 19:01:45 (EDT)

My two cents are: I hanker to know what went on between 26 August and 29 August. I bet it was good.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 19:00:48 (EDT)

My two cents are: Alright, I'm using port 110 as we speak to upload the latest fgate archive -- all 3,396,959 bytes of it. It's complete up until 26 August, so there's about 3 days missing before Adam chopped it off on 29 August. There's not a link to it yet on the main ancillary page, but the URL should be: http://members.fortunecity.com/fornigate/archive/20010826.htm.
Glint
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 18:37:37 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 18:37:06 (EDT)

My two cents are: Babe in Arms, don't believe anything you read on this page.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 18:11:24 (EDT)

My two cents are: I think that dude down at 14:31:39 (EDT) needs to learn a thing or two about computers. I scrolled down there and checked out those Google links. They came right back to this page. My last post was at the top. Those Google heads don't cache no pages, they only collect the links that they save in a data bank. If If anything is cached or caught it's probably on your own desktop computer.
Tom
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 17:48:20 (EDT)

My two cents are: Hey dudes, is there anyone out there tonight? I came back to see what's happpening. Did you hear about that berserk guy down in Simi Valley that killed a bunch of people? Glad I live here where it's safe. Tomorrow's the last day to register at BC and I don't think I'l make it.
Tom
Bakersfield, CA U.S. - Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 17:44:36 (EDT)

My two cents are: What good is a pickle jar if you can't open it?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 16:24:35 (EDT)

My two cents are: The Google search offers a cache of searched web pages in most cases. Clicking on one of these links leads to a snapshot of the searched page, which is stored by Google, not this (or any other) web site. Of course, their cache abbreviated and not as retentive as Glint, but then again, who is?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 14:31:39 (EDT)

My two cents are: Windows DooDz don't grep, lLaMa.
hackerman <[email protected]>
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 14:28:11 (EDT)

My two cents are: You mean you DIDN'T post those messages to thefirsttwins.com, Glint? Damn, they were the best ones there!
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 14:27:56 (EDT)

My two cents are: full circle
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 14:11:28 (EDT)

My two cents are: Like who needs the archive anyway with everything indexed under Google? Wait. Oh, all the links point back here. Too bad, I guess you'll be needing my services after all. <> And check this out if you want to see a whole load of extra-Fornigatte faux Glint posts: http://www.thefirsttwins.com/messages2.html
Glint
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 13:48:47 (EDT)

My two cents are: http://www.google.com/search?q=foop%21+toodles
even more
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 13:25:59 (EDT)

My two cents are: http://google.yahoo.com/bin/query?p=pussed+over+and+sewn+shut&w=dir&fr=op&o=a&h=c&g=0&n=20&hc=0&hs=0
get a load of this!
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 13:21:46 (EDT)

My two cents are: Don't worry, I have the archive. It's just that in the latest snapshot I was missing the last few days. I wanted to see Adam's version to top it off. Guess I'll drop him an email and see if he can't help. Then I'll post the thing so that you can start grepping for "foop" and "toodles". Don't forget to grep case sensitive for "enemiEs".
Glint
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 12:49:57 (EDT)

My two cents are: The interesting act was the Pete character when it quit. A post about how he loved everyone here and was going to miss them, and he was sorry for having been such an asshole. Adam the webmaster archived it, but then when Glint complained that he couldn't get into the archive the webmaster sneered that he wasn't going to worry about it. It appears that a lot of negativism has developed on the site, factions and cliques have formed, and people are sniping at one another's posts instead of pulling together to improve quality. The whole thing appears to be running on fumes, and it's been pretty much that way ever since MK developed the polyps up his ass and quit as a health measure. Teresa pulling the train all over Philly didn't help, either.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 12:38:32 (EDT)

My two cents are: What did glint sound like when he ran off like a burned hog?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 12:25:10 (EDT)

My two cents are: Your wife was pussed over so I had to cut a hole in her bag. foop!
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 11:40:04 (EDT)

My two cents are: Your wife? Yeah, she sure is.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 11:35:58 (EDT)

My two cents are: Hey, she's OK with a bag on her head.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 10:43:07 (EDT)

My two cents are: NEW YORK. Opening night at the The Metropolitan Opera this coming season will be the world premiere of a new opera on Bill Clinton:"La Bubba Vita," composed by Giuliani Veritas. It will be performed in Italian. The following is a summary of what is expected to be regarded as a modern masterpiece of political satire and verissimo drama: Act I Bill Clinton has been elected President of the United States by an overwhelming margin. The Republicans are devastated and angry and are trying to find their way back to power. As the curtain rises on the opera, the House Republicans are meeting with Ken Starr with the object of trying to find a way to remove Bill Clinton from the Presidency. The opening chorale, "We must find a way" ("Creato grandissimo floozi scandala") is sung as a sextet. In an impressive recitative, Tom DeLay sings, "Where will we find a helper?" ("Dredgi uppulia una Granda Bimba"). The House Republicans exit. Paula Jones enters stage right with a mirror, singing her plaintive "Why can't I find a man?" ("Mia schnozola es humongo"). Tom DeLay and Newt Gingrich enter from the other wing. They spot Paula and sing the duet, "Why not her?" ("La flooza perfecta"). They meet and take Paula to a small cafe where they hatch their plot in hushed tones. Paula tells them of her meeting in a hotel with Clinton years earlier and how her fortunes have collapsed since then. DeLay and Gingrich offer to help. They sing the aria, "Your luck has changed" ("Nozjobbo e' rewardo"). Act II The House Republicans reconvene with the news of Paula's revelations. They sing in jubilation, "We must tell the world" ("Fono tabloido"). The rear curtain rises to reveal the Chorus of Media, who sing the chorale, "Tell us more, but only the truth" ("Sexio scandala hypo sweepi"). Gingrich enters with Pat Robertson. They sing the duet, "He must go" ("Hypocriti pious crappola"). Robertson offers to make time on his television program to expose the charges. At the House Republicans' suggestion, Paula initiates a lawsuit. The Paula Jones scandal becomes the topic of conversation throughout the country.The Chorus of Lawyers enters from the right to sing the jubilant grand chorale, "We must do our duty" ("Molto, molto grande moola"). Ken Starr meets with the House Republicans to plan the next steps.They sing the aria, "We will save the country" ("Sleezi connivo, la media soccittuppo"). Starr promises to convene a grand jury that will send charges to the Congress. He sings, "The truth will be known" ("Whitewater non starto, il probo la flooza epidemio"). The Chorus of Lawyers sings a reprise of "We must do our duty" as the act ends. Act III Linda Tripp enters the stage arm in arm with Ken Starr. She is wearing a headset. She is singing, "Monica is my dearest Friend" ("Io sono la oichida witchi occidenta"). She tells Starr about the secret tapes that she has made of conversations with Monica Lewinsky. Starr takes them from her and sings, "We've got him now" ("Presidente droppo pantaloni"). Starr hurries off to the Grand Jury to call Monica as a witness. In Scene 2, Monica enters the grand jury room where the Chorus of Lawyers asks her questions. They sing the recitative, "How did it happen?" ("Panti hong, la flashi"). Monica sings the long passionate aria, "We were meant for each other" ("Nonsmoko el producto, phalli ymboglio"). In the third scene, Hillary and Bill are sitting in the Lincoln Bedroom discussing the revelations about Monica. Hillary sings, "I will stand by you" ("Tu jercho estupido, io removo tu equippamento"). Bill replies with, "She was the only one" ("Non counto Gennifer, Paula, piu molto bimba forgetta"). They embrace. Act IV Sam Donaldson is interviewing Henry Hyde in the Capitol Building. The Chorus of Lawyers hums in the background.Hyde sings the aria, "We believe in something" ("Impeaccho hippi bastardo"). Donaldson sings a recitative in answer, "We only want the truth" ("Mio toupee eslippo"). The great trial begins in the Senate.Trent Lott reacts to public opinion polls showing that the President has a 76% approval rating with the public with the poignant aria, "What is right is not popular" ("Partia repubblico commitini suicido"). The Chorus of Lawyers sings the chorale, "Principles come first" ("Mi adultero non counto") with great flourish. Henry Hyde, Bill McCullom, and Tom DeLay stand before the Senate to present their case. They sing the somber trio, "How can you not convict?" ("Evidensi multi flimsioso"). Finally, in a moving chorale, the Chorus of Lawyers sings "For the good of the nation, we must acquit" ("Senatorios non stupido"). After the vote is announced, Henry Hyde, Tom DeLay, Trent Lott, and Bill McCollum leave the Senate Chamber singing the grand quartet, "We still know the truth" ("Wasto multi milliono") as the Act ends. Epilogue The President sings the contrite aria, "I am very sorry" ("Revengo futuro furioso") as the Chorus of Media circles him shouting their questions. They sing, "Who will believe us?" ("Publicca degustanta es in media"). Monica Lewinsky crosses the stage, singing, "It is still not over" ("Repubblicani no Nooki getti eternamente, per tutti las Damas canna standim") as the final curtain falls on this epic drama.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 06, 2001 at 04:41:00 (EDT)

My two cents are: How's your ugly dotter, Jerry? Do you call her Princess just to be cruel?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 23:04:17 (EDT)

My two cents are: Greetings, Glint, are Pete and Whatever around? Man, it has been ages since I pulled this page up. Things have been VERY hectic. That and the lightning that came in on my modem. It tickled the bejeebers out of it. Just lucky that the modem was all that was tickled. /////// What's with Reno? Guess she thinks there are enough queers in FL to get elected. That and if the demos can rig the election this time. They tried to stop GW and twist the votes but it just didn't happen. Now the dumos know what didn't work last time so they can try something different. I sure wouldn't trust her, she'll twist everything around. /////// Glint, I got the kids a pup last night. Replaces the one the stupid moron shot with an arrow last winter. Got a great pyrenees puppy. She is 4-5 months old and weighs 40-50 lbs. Better go, later. Oh, I scrolled back some and no, that cut paste job earlier was not by me, ymutt.
Jeremiah
United States of America - Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 21:42:45 (EDT)

My two cents are: Actually, Jackson, it was the bank that brought Leo in, but I couldn't fit that into a single stanza. You know how it is.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 20:43:15 (EDT)

My two cents are: Listen up, amigo. You ought to be hitting the books before the spleef overloads. I got to polish up the 302nd stanza, the one about how Dad's clothing store went out of business and we brought in Leo Toledo to run the close-out sale. See you around.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 20:38:15 (EDT)

My two cents are: I'm writing an epic poem about my 27 years in Buttonwillow. The central theme revolves around the time I almost drowned in the Kern River dipping the tamale in a little muchacha sauce. I was the only Okie in high school who never got rat-packed by the pachucos. I could speak Spanish because my Dad did his missionary year in Honduras when I was seven. That was a long time ago, though, and things have probably changed.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 20:34:48 (EDT)

My two cents are: Buttonwillow's a nice place. I haven't been there in about 5 years and don't remember anything about it. I was pretty drunk the whole time I was there (about 6 hours). You must have a big dog if it can throw up Bakersfield. But if it did hurl you would come back? Your statement confused me some, no offense. What makes you think I'm a cop? That's too funny!1
Tom
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 20:33:45 (EDT)

My two cents are: Meant to say I wouldn't set foot in Bakersfield if the dog barfed it up right in front of me.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 20:29:12 (EDT)

My two cents are: You went to BC? Wow, I really feel lucky. What are the chances of that? I'm toying with the idea of a double major or a minor in something. I want to concentrate on automotive industrial technology but for the second interest I'm torn between computer studies and theater arts. I'm pretty good on the computer so I think that will eventually win. I can chat jus100 miles away.
Tom
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 20:28:40 (EDT)

My two cents are: I lived for twenty-seven years in Buttonwillow, and I would set foot in Bakersfield again if the dog barfed it up.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 20:28:07 (EDT)

My two cents are: Watch out for this Tom character. I have a feeling he's an undercover police officer who found the URL in H-man's coat pocket.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 20:25:18 (EDT)

My two cents are: I don't do buttons that much. NOt like I used to once upon a time. Bakersfield's an o.k. place. Everyone here seems to like it. I can understand other people who haven't lived here not liking it but that's because they don't live around here. Don't know what you mean by "jasper citizen", but I don't think it was a put down, was it? You guys are a bad influence. I'm really off this time but I've bookmarked the page on my computer.
Tom
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 20:20:24 (EDT)

My two cents are: I got an AA in dwell at BC! Small world, cowboy. Then they changed all the Detroit iron to electronic ignition and I couldn't get a job anywhere from Turlock to Indio. It was fucked, Jim. But you go ahead and hit the books. Ain't no reason not to dream.
Neb Nocliw
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 20:20:19 (EDT)

My two cents are: A packet sniffer is what tells you if the man is into Port 110, dude. Don't upload and warRez if there's a sniffer on the backbone.
hackerman <[email protected]>
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 20:16:49 (EDT)

My two cents are: It's been nice chatting with y'all. I've got to go study before I get too fucked up. (ha) I'm working on my GED. Once I have it then I'll enroll at Bakersfield College. Want to study science and techology but screwed around and missed the Fall enrollment. I know some guys who went there and they have good jobs now. BC has good mechanical classes in auto brakes and wheel alignment, engine overhaul, tune-ups and other industrial tech classes.
Tom
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 20:11:31 (EDT)

My two cents are: I don't know, Tom, it's sort of difficult to trust a jasper from Bakersfield who does buttons in the Mojave and rocks, if you know what I mean. Are you sure you didn't just fall off a load of pineapples? Been burned before, citizen.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 20:11:19 (EDT)

My two cents are: The golem's absence reminds me of the time I saw Charley Musselwhite working up a new band in a beer and wine basement. Musselwhite is or was the famous white Chicago harmonica player who plays a chromatic harp, sounds like a normal blues harmonica guy except there's an indefinable quality of tuba about him. He had a Chinese guitar player who sounded like Harvey Mandel, a little curly-headed keyboard guy with a lot of spirit, drums and bass. Musselwhite's amp went out on the intro to a blues in D-minor and the band took off, played some great music until the amp kicked in and the tuba-tinted harmonica drug everything back down. It's like that here, the golem takes off and suddenly Glint and some of the anonymous dopes are riffing almost as good as liberals, to foop, no toodles, no c'est la vie, no sad really, no EeEeEeE traitor socialsits the E-nemies of America, no you just don't get it birdbrain trickle-down, and a three thousand percent cut in re-posts from Drudge with stupid tag lines at the bottom. Refreshing, is what it is. I might stay here and make this my chat board.
Neb Nocliw
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 20:08:12 (EDT)

My two cents are: Bakersfield rocks. It's closer to lots of stuff. My favorite is the Mojave. I like to chow down on buttons when I get the chance to go. It's hot as hell in the daytime but tripping at night is the coolest.
Tom
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 20:03:48 (EDT)

My two cents are: Does anyone know what those two IRS phone numbers were? I've been skimming through this board. There's some interesting stuff here but I don't understand all of it. Such as what is this packet sniffer thing? Is it that new kind of police sniffer based on the technology used for the alchol sniffer that allows the cops to smell dope on you from five feet away? I heard it can smell both smoke on the clothes and unburned pot like a joing or bag in your pocket. If they pull you over and it goes off they get probably cause to go through your car and strip search you if they want to. Is there a cop posting on this board or something?
Tom
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 19:59:06 (EDT)

My two cents are: I heard about that Bakersfield Community Orchestra. The one where Buck Owens is First Cowbell. Admit it, Tom, Bakersfield is a honyocker town of the first squeezing. Its only advantage over Fresno is that it's closer to Simi Valley.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 19:57:44 (EDT)

My two cents are: Yes, this URL was given in a chat room earlier this afternoon. I followed a link to the chat and don't have the URL. If anybody wants me to I can try and retrace my steps to find it. But long as we're here why move, right?
Tom
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 19:55:00 (EDT)

My two cents are: Who was asking about skunks in Bakersfield? There's all sorts of skunks around. Some are dead along the road but most seem to be alive and well. Cats? You mean like the Broadway play starting the flea bag cast? Don't know, but we do have a symphony orchestra here in town, but I don't like peeling off $55 for tickets.
Tom
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 19:24:01 (EDT)

My two cents are: The Associated Press Sept. 5, 2001 PHOENIX - The Internal Revenue Service published two phone numbers intended to allow taxpayers to call for help. Instead, callers reach phone-sex services. The publications were distributed in January. One was sent to 286,000 taxpayers and the other to "relatively few," federal auditors said late last month. One document was an explanation of the earned-income tax credit, which produces refunds for many low-wage workers. Its toll-free number directed callers to a second 800 line with adult content. The other mistake came in a list of state agencies that taxpayers and bank tellers could call for information on making tax deposits. The number was long outdated, the Treasury Department's inspector general reported. IRS said it has halted distribution of the publications.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 19:23:27 (EDT)

My two cents are: You know, it's a lot harder to beat the conservative troglodytes on this site since the golem is not here making a stink-bug of himself. This character Glint sneaks and hits like a long-tailed weasel. Even this bonehead with the sad dialect patter is hard to pin down, freed from the haole ball and chain.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 19:21:09 (EDT)

My two cents are: No sorry I was really supporting the unbalanced budgeters. yeah, american is waay better off when its frickin unbalanced. Ronny reagan worked for years to unbalance the budget and now that junior has pissed away billions its like sooo important to spin everything like we don't fricking care that individual home mortgages are being defaulted at a rate that's the highest since 1992 so it would be like such a relief to have others explain why the east is no longer red but the west is not just ready but frickin scarlet at least the US of frickn A is.
hey ho
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 19:18:32 (EDT)

My two cents are: Say, do we have to give Junior a break after the poor boo has wrecked the economy?
It's the economy, stupid bush
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 19:14:54 (EDT)

My two cents are: Say whut? Say, wall we jus' don' give a shit, mah man. Eat frickin cake. ( As if.)
It's the Economy, Stupid Bush
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 19:11:40 (EDT)

My two cents are: O yeh. I loved muh man Daschle 'N his man Gephardt's tax cuts. Them was awesomes. Yu du that more offen, 'n Merica will be set2 rights agane. Balanze that budget. Screw them budzet unbalanzers. Effin commies.
pardan mah french
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 19:09:50 (EDT)

My two cents are: Does this mean chat people are chatting about this page in a chat room?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 19:08:27 (EDT)

My two cents are: Tom, is it true that people in Bakersfield listen to squealing-cat symphonies and take half-dead skunks home to their apartments?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 17:53:06 (EDT)

My two cents are: It was Daschle and Gephardt who handed out the mufflers. It was the Lexuses themselves that broke the bank.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 17:50:15 (EDT)

My two cents are: Welcome aboard, Tom. Make yourself comfortable next time you come around. So it was Dashle and Gephardt that pissed away the surplus, eh?
Glint
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 17:32:13 (EDT)

My two cents are: I heard about this page in a chat room. Is anybody here from California? I'm from Bakersfield myself. Time to hit the road and head home.
Tom
Bakersfield, CA U.S. - Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 17:23:54 (EDT)

My two cents are: The $300 worker's relief checks were not part of the Bush plan. You can thank Tom Dashle and Dick Gephardt for that wad of bills in your pocket.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 17:12:12 (EDT)

My two cents are: This is all just liberal nay-saying. As long as the white man has the power, I say let him rule from power. Do we want this country's economy spoiled the way Robert Mugabwe ruined the prosperous farmers of wherever he's president? Repealing the estate tax and going light on the social security and medicare trust funds can only help the black man, by allowing him to hand his wealth down to his children and watching long-lived white men collect pensions while his own people are slashed down in razor fights at a young age, and never collect jack.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 17:09:27 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 17:02:03 (EDT)

My two cents are: Not that Keyes was actually UN ambassador, but you get the point. Anyway, I doubt Keyes would have gone. He hates Bush and he needs to get his next campaign going so he can pay himself with contributions.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 15:43:39 (EDT)

My two cents are: Bush is Hoover Lite. First, he talks down the economy, then goes on vacation. And to think, this guy was head cheerleader in prep school. If he gave a shit, he'd be waving the pom-poms at rallies for the economy. You know, talking the economy up. You know, like Clinton or Gore would have done. You think either of them would be talking to cows right now? Nope. They'd be working. Clinton would also be getting a blowjob to keep focused. It's called multi-tasking.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 15:41:54 (EDT)

My two cents are: Should have sent former UN Ambassador Alan Keyes to the Racist UN Conference http://66.54.2.136/foxfan/images/alan_keyes.jpg
Glint
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 14:35:59 (EDT)

My two cents are: We got our tax refund check in the mail this week. We win!
Glint
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 14:17:29 (EDT)

My two cents are: Bush's real agenda needs a recession for public support. That is why Bush and Cheney first cry from the bully pulpit was "RECESSION". It was the equivalent of yelling fire in a crowded theatre. They were aware of their influence. Want a tax cut..created economic fears and the need for an immediate stimulus. Want to drill in the Alaskan refuge? Bring on a recession. Want to end the remaining remnants of the NEW DEAL and The Great Society once and for all. Eliminate the surplus and create a recession. Bush said he won't dip into Social Security unless there is a recession. Is there really any substantive , concrete reasons for this market? Not one 'fix' has been effective. I believe this is all the result of Bush's first act as President: that of crying recession.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 13:36:56 (EDT)

My two cents are: It's better to buy a telescope than to curse the darkness.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 13:09:36 (EDT)

My two cents are: I'm beginning to think this $300 check is just a typical Republican gimmick to distract the goobers from the real agenda.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 13:05:49 (EDT)

My two cents are: Son of a bitch probably has lights all over his house.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 13:00:26 (EDT)

My two cents are: These light pollution cranks give me a pain. Daylight Saving Time rules! Let there be light.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 12:57:54 (EDT)

My two cents are: The trouble with the United Nations is, they let all these coons in, and Chinamen, Japs, every kind of guinea you can name, and any sand-nigger with an embroidered towel and a throne in the desert. If they would only keep out the lower end of the humanoid evolutionary tree, it might be a swell club.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 12:51:47 (EDT)

My two cents are: http://bicomnet.com/ritchieobs/pages/lights.htm#index
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 12:51:33 (EDT)

My two cents are: With four-way stop signs, you don't need a left turn lane, and the left-turner inconveniences no one. Anyone wanting to go right is through there without problems, because the cluck coming from his left has had to stop or will have to stop. Everybody comes up to the line, waits for the rear end to drop, and goes through, perhaps with a friendly nod to his fellow motorists. Frustration level is low because everybody is always moving, none of this tie your shoes or read the horoscope at the stoplight stuff. The four-way stop-sign is the peak achievement of classic traffic engineering. It has never been surpassed, with all the electronic gimcrackery produced by the chip manufacturers of the Santa Clara Valley. A tip of the hat and an ice-cold cucumber to the four-way stop-sign intersection.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 12:42:16 (EDT)

My two cents are: It would be nice to have Polyp-Boy here to clarify things.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 12:35:54 (EDT)

My two cents are: Priority goes to the blonde on the right.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 12:34:22 (EDT)

My two cents are: What's the definition of eternity? Four blondes at a four way stop.
nuff said
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 12:28:25 (EDT)

My two cents are: It all depends on the traffic signal in question. What i'm seeing more and more of, especially in the 'burbs are these three-way and four-way signals where they don't seem to be necessary and two way signals, with no left turn lane, at busy intersections. Your four corner stop signs work okay in light traffic. In a libertarian society, right of way would be negotiable.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 12:16:47 (EDT)

My two cents are: Speaking of fish, I once had a pet catfish names Yasir Arafat.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 11:43:55 (EDT)

My two cents are: Arafat told it like it is, and that's one thing the Racist Jews will not tolerate!
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 10:33:42 (EDT)

My two cents are: Give a man $300 and he'll buy a Brody wheel for the Benz, and maybe a set of curb feelers. The rest he'll blow up his nose.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 10:30:15 (EDT)

My two cents are: He think he Snoop, or what?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 10:02:52 (EDT)

My two cents are: Give a man $300 and he'll buy $300 worth of fish. Teach a man to fish and he'll sell $30,000 worth of fish. Shee-it!
Eddie Gann
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 10:01:48 (EDT)

My two cents are: At least President* Bush didn't ride to office on the back of Sister Souljah. Where does Clinton get off dissing a sister, anyway?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 10:01:20 (EDT)

My two cents are: If I were black, I'd vote for Bush. When did Clinton ever give the black man $300?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 09:58:44 (EDT)

My two cents are: Is that Jeremiah, or just a cowardly anonymous?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 09:56:30 (EDT)

My two cents are: "Testing the Branch Waters: Clinton�s ghostwriter pick is another civil-rights calculation" The ghostwriter of Bill Clinton's $10 million memoirs will be Taylor Branch, who can be expected to give the text historical sweep. Branch is best known for Parting the Waters and Pillar of Fire, two heroic volumes on the civil-rights movement (the former won a Pulitzer prize). But Clinton's choice of Branch itself speaks volumes. He wants to be remembered as a civil-rights figure. Recall, though, that Clinton won the presidency in 1992 by offering himself as a New Democrat, and that an essential feature of that newness was his willingness to defy organized black opinion. (At a crucial point in the primaries, he criticized Sister Souljah for her violently antiwhite racism.) But as soon as President Clinton hit trouble, after the 1994 elections, he surrounded himself with totemic black people: Jesse Jackson was a spiritual adviser, Rep. Charlie Rangel a political one (steering Mrs. Clinton to a New York Senate race and Bill to a Harlem office). Like the sultans of old, he even had a Negro minding his seraglio, Vernon Jordan. Clinton's calculation was that blacks would rally around anyone, however corrupt and feckless, who promised them access and made the right gestures. Blacks did. This is Bill Clinton's contribution to civil rights.
ain't it the truth!
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 09:56:20 (EDT)

My two cents are: They wrecked the economy? What economy? Those people eat pounded yams and pounded bananas and then some more pounded yams. Their only clothing is a piece of cloth. They live in mud huts with no heat and no blankets. What is this economy business?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 09:55:23 (EDT)

My two cents are: They should charge her with a hate crime in addition to filing a false police report. Teach her to blame it on whitey.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 09:41:43 (EDT)

My two cents are: Ha! I knew it. The bitch is a race baiting liar! (see September 03, 2001 at 08:40) Tell Al Sharpton that it's o.k. to go home now. //////// A 32-year-old black woman who said she was abducted, robbed and sexually assaulted by two white men last week has recanted her story. The woman, who lives in Bivins, about 150 miles east of Dallas, told police that she carved the letters "KKK" into her chest with scissors. Her motive is unknown.
Texas: Woman recants story of attack by KKK
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 09:36:36 (EDT)

My two cents are: Yes, give them a break. Especially after the poor boos have wrecked the economy. Maybe we can export Clinton to Zimbabwe. He can help inflate another new economic bubble and then bug out as usual as it begins to deflate beating on his little tom tom.
Glint
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 09:20:10 (EDT)

My two cents are: Did he wear the high-heeled shoes and the belt buckle in Kennebunkport?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 08:27:27 (EDT)

My two cents are: Is it widely known that W bought the Crawford home-place two years ago, during the campaign? Lived in the Gov's mansion, in a gated community in Texas, and in Kennebunkport before then? No wonder he's got to talk to the cows-- he probably hasn't met a lot of them yet.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 08:26:44 (EDT)

My two cents are: "There's a lot of people in the Middle East who are desirous to get into the Mitchell process. And -- but first things first. The -- these terrorist acts and, you know, the responses have got to end in order for us to get the framework -- the groundwork -- not the framework, the groundwork to discuss a framework for peace, to lay the -- all right."
President* Bush
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 08:21:54 (EDT)

My two cents are: Well, it's just typical of the UN. They give every little tinpot dictatorship a vote in the General Assembly. What kind of name is Thabo, anyway? Is that Irish? Thabo Mbeki my ass. Robert "Mugabe." How can you take these clowns seriously?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 08:07:41 (EDT)

My two cents are: If you were a cheap little African dictatorship, you'd probably try to scam a few bucks off the ex-colonial powers, too. Don't be so hard on the poor jigaboos.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 07:09:01 (EDT)

My two cents are: Moonshot approach = redundantly engineered, overbuilt except if you are trying to set a man on the moon and get him back alive. No slur on NASA. Said, for example, of a public transit system designed so that trains theoretically reun every 1.5 minutes with no drivers, prevented from bumping into one another by electronic equipment that smokes and sizzles in locked boxes at each end of the cars, when busses would do fine. A county civil engineer I worked with once nixed a stoplight at a busy intersection, left it a four-way stop; ten years later the area was annexed and the city put in a traffic light, and it took about the same time to get through, maybe a little longer. There is an asymptote to the production curve, you approach it as you approach the things that limit production, for example the laws of thermodynamics. Getting a glimpse of the asymptote is not necessarily a bad thing. It this case it worked out all right, because a) there was probably overproduction, as revealed by the AMD layoffs last week and b) enough people flipped the switch that energy consumption dropped around 20% below expectiations and the cucumbers cooled down. I've never been able to figure out what computer chips produce, after every design engineer has an 8286 and Symphony 1.0. It must be something, but what? Maybe the golem will come back with the answer.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 07:05:12 (EDT)

My two cents are: ........At one of the sessions, South African President Thabo Mbeki railed against the alleged wrongs done by European colonialism and demanded reparations to African nations. Yet meanwhile, in Zimbabwe -- formerly the British colony of Rhodesia -- a very different story is being played out. Gangs of thugs backed by dictator Robert Mugabe are conducting a campaign of terror against the nation's white farmers and seizing their land. The farmers' crime is that their ancestors settled in a sparsely populated, undeveloped territory and turned it into productive farms, which employ many black workers -- who happen to form the backbone of the opposition to Mugabe's regime. There has been no discussion, at the UN conference, of Mugabe's racist atrocities. Many at the conference also back reparations for slavery in the U.S. This is the perverse theory that whites today -- who bear no responsibility for slavery -- should be made to pay for what other whites did 135 years ago. It is an attempt to codify the assignment of collective, racial guilt. Yet this is promoted, self-righteously, as a battle against racism. Such hypocrisy should be no surprise, because it is typical of the United Nations. These are the same folks who recently refused to allow the United States onto the UN Human Rights Commission -- while installing a representative from Sudan, an Islamic theocracy that tolerates the practice of slavery. The UN is an organization that claims to be devoted to world peace and opposed to aggression while it gives veto power to the world's worst aggressors and largest dictatorships; while it refuses to recognize a relatively free nation, Taiwan, in order to please the Communist dictators of China; while it gives equal votes in the General Assembly to every cheap little dictatorship on the planet; and while it holds conferences allegedly dedicated to fighting oppression, whose most prominent participants are murderers. .......... The U.S. has wisely chosen not to send a high-level delegation to the conference of racists.
The UN Conference of Racists
- Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 06:37:08 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 23:32:54 (EDT)

My two cents are: Well, if a computer plant in Palo Alto had to close down because the machines couldn't stamp out the silicon chip wafers, giving everybody the day off, then that pretty much is "lost productivity." Unless the folks that worked there went back home to their respective garages and started building Apple XXs from parts smuggled in their gym bags. I don't understand your quip about the "NASA moon-shot approach." Can you name at least one other moon shot approaches that had better success reaching moon than NASA's
Glint
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 23:21:45 (EDT)

My two cents are: Finally, since I got up at 1:30 this morning, and because Harlan hasn't been much help, let me note that as a dude from outside the bubble you should know that the idea of the air-conditioners turning off and the TV flickering and going dark for fifteen minutes really doesn't scare a nation of tough guys like the USA. Nobody around here is going to fart and moan and belly-ache about it. Just flick the switch, that's what we'll do, and reach into the pemmican sack for another handful, grunting at the meteor shower. This country wasn't raised up out of the swamps and deserts by a bunch of crybabies worried that they wouldn't get to see all the Survivor II re-runs. It takes more than a failed energy policy and resultant across-the-board productivity loss and traffic bedlam to make us cry crisis.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 21:29:44 (EDT)

My two cents are: By the way, you should always be careful when you write about events "resulting in lost productivity." You mean because some cluck had to figure out how to negotiate an intersection following the rules of the road he became less productive than he otherwise would have been? Productive of what? This is California, remember? Hot tub soaking? Hare Krishna chanting? Duck bestiality? Acupuncture? Skateboarding? Also, blacked-out intersections tend to run more smoothly than ones with signals, more cars through per hour. What you do is stop and yield priority to the right, no crime-fighters needed. My occasional experience as an unlicensed traffic engineer has taught me that a four-way stop is better in most situations that a light, and I have a suspicion that the lights we have everywhere are a sort of NASA moon-shot approach to a set of conditions that can be managed in a much simpler way. Oh, but without getting too complicated about this, what we had for a crises was the possibility of the future discomfort of some fat dumb and otherwise happy Americans, and gosh-darned if it didn't make the nightly news! Go figure.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 21:22:05 (EDT)

My two cents are: Probably for the true skinny on the energy shortage you should query [email protected], who seemed to have it figured out when we all still thought he was a well-to-do yuppie with washboard abs and nightly adult games. What happened to your Diego friend was that for some reason (there's clarity) they got deregulated earlier than the rest of the state and took gas about a year before the people who ended up with warm cucumbers. Gas prices went up because whoever was distributing the gas figured out a way to charge four times as much for it for a few months. There was an apparent electricity shortage because energy purveyors scheduled maintenance all at the same time in May, which turned out to have a lot of triple-digit days in it, which ran consumption up to around 95%. Everybody panicked and a crisis was declared. The people who swooped in and bought the energy plants when the green MBA's who had taken over the utilities decided that it would be smart to sell them off and wheel and deal in the energy market tried to milk the situation by running at low capacity, maintaining scarcity and keeping prices hysterically high. When Jeffords jumped to the left and the Senate Democrats suddently had the power to call hearings, it was the Texas boys' turn to panic, so they turned the electricity back on. Right now the state is left with a bunch of high-priced long-term contracts negotiated at inflated prices during the panic, and they're trying to encourage more consumption to burn up the glut so they don't get stuck paying for something they can't sell. In my own case, I had the utility company attach a green plastic box to my central air conditioner, which is supposed to turn it off for up to an hour during a crisis. For this I get five dollars a month off my bill. It's like manna from heaven. This whole thing has worked out great!
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 21:11:32 (EDT)

My two cents are: Then it continues thusly, "...Mixed in with this was the political finger pointing. Was the energy shortage a result of too much or too little deregulation by the previous governor and the Democrat led legislature? Did the crisis come about because certain members of the advisory board, who were hand- picked by the current Democrat governor Davis, had conflicts of interest due to their ownership of stock in California's utility companies?..."
Glint
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 21:03:47 (EDT)

My two cents are: My story starts like this: "One of this summer's big news topics was the energy shortage that led to rolling blackouts and significantly higher energy prices over the previous year in California. The reported blackouts not only took out refrigerators resulting in warmer cucumbers but also knocked out factories, offices, and traffic signals resulting in lost productivity while diverting law enforcement resources away from fighting black crime to fighting gridlock at blacked out intersections....."
Glint
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 20:59:23 (EDT)

My two cents are: Can you help me with my latest light pollution rant for the local paper? So far I've discussed the facts about the California energy "crisis", the false deregulation and the Governor's hand-picked board of industry insiders with vested interests through stock ownership. I and need something anecdotal from the Calis to drive the point home. I've already mentioned how the dinner guest from San Diego complained that his electric and gas went up 200-300% in a year. But that range seems too much like guess work so I'm looking for some firmer facts. Give me something I can use.
Glint
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 20:52:56 (EDT)

My two cents are: What a relief! Realtors wouldn't mislead anybody. And they have to pass a test, I think.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 20:51:12 (EDT)

My two cents are: Look for the tell tale cigarette but and its spongy DNA evidence about a mile or two down the road from where the fire originated. Anyway, the stakes that are stuck match those on the survey. Nothing's changed since the six copies of the mortgage got signed and the realtors had a group hug.
Glint
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 20:47:48 (EDT)

My two cents are: Yo, Harlan. Easy on the politics. I thought you'd be greasing the yenta. Trying to gently wean the bubble-boy away from the hind tit of the learned haole. Don't scare him off. He's half a nostril into the box.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 20:46:36 (EDT)

My two cents are: I did go to Sunday school for a while, maybe three months. They had someone come who explained how the people in Japan worship false gods, bowing down to alters in their very homes. They explained about God flying over some city and killing all the first-born or maybe everyone who didn't have a certain mark on the door. They had no loaves at all, just a marshmallow with a birthday candle stuck in it for kids whose friends had told the administration that they'd had a birthday that week. I myself was one of these unfortunate few. I have managed to stay away from churches since then, and so speak of the bear loaves figuratively, without empirical experience.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 20:43:04 (EDT)

My two cents are: Isn't this the cutest little tea party. Come on, gents, let's rock. Unfortunately, I need my sleep. Been out on the lines saving Weaverville and Hayfork from the fires.
Harlan St. Wolf
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 20:39:33 (EDT)

My two cents are: Hate to appear illiberal, after no harping on Al Gore's facial hair or Hillary's dissing Loretta Lynn lyrics, but that nanny state may not have watched all that closely in the mad scramble to split up the land into what may well be the county's only remaining saleable units of any mercantile value. The developer probably doesn't know anything about surveying, the mortgage company certainly doesn't. If the neighbor, or anyone, is at the edge of the plat, his parcel could just disappear if there is a lot line adjustment. Happens. A fence, if it is built where there was an older fence, which may have been built where there was an older fence, might easily evidence the original line better than the line of a traverse that wasn't closed properly, or closed on bogus evidence. Sounds as if there was no early fence, though, because nobody would probably have enclosed an isolated acre. But somewhere there is a fence following a real property line, and some sixteenth- or seventeenth-century field notes that are the only thing that matters if they turn up. It doesn't matter at all where any of this is in relation to Uranus or the gridlines, but only where it is in relation to wherever the original Indian was standing when they shot him and drove that first stake.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 20:36:36 (EDT)

My two cents are: I'm glad my kids don't go to the same Sunday school you went to. In ours the communion loaves are made of bread.
Glint
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 20:27:29 (EDT)

My two cents are: Historically? (Like was the fence builtt by Indians?) Yes. Yes. Yes. Well, two subdivision actually; older one about 11 or 12 years old. Yes, far enough. Whose field notes, the surveyors? Yes, definitely. Both old and new; some are from multiple surveys -- the developer, the mortgage company, etc. -- stakes stuck under the watchful eye of the nanny and the nanny's nanny. Probably. Maybe he does. Maybe he is. Maybe he's not. Maybe he will.
Glint
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 20:23:21 (EDT)

My two cents are: Gondola not up. Looks as if he's working on it. Has 1/4" aircraft cable stretched from a pulley on the deck to a tree maybe 100' away, still far on his side of the East Fork. Seems associated with the bird-feeder, but I didn't pay enough attention to figure it out. There are a couple of "assholes" in the cable, which is what we call a potential kink, a loop that would kink when you pull it tight. These assholes are set with wire-clamps, and it wasn't immediately apparent why he had done this. The gondola will be a long time coming. Bears are lazy only in the cartoons. They rip apart four-foot stumps for a few termites, and shit loaves that would feed a Sunday school.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 20:16:20 (EDT)

My two cents are: Dangerous thing, trusting in stakes, pipes, rebar, and concrete, when there's a fenceline. Was there a fence historically? The courts might go with the fence. Is there a record of survey to go with the monuments? Recorded at the courthouse? Stamped with Land Surveyor or Civil Engineer stamp, license number? Is this a recent subdivision? Does a foot over the line sound like a long way? Do you have the field notes? Are all these corners adequately pissed on? Are those new pipes or old pipes? Anything like an old Reo axle around, broken china buried, scarred trees? You never know. Maybe the dog does. Maybe the dog is tuned to the earth currents. Maybe the dog isn't intimidated because the tractor is small and mows only one acre. Maybe the dog will piss on your grave. Maybe not.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 20:06:21 (EDT)

My two cents are: No, Gourdon's split rail fence is actually about a foot over the line on his side. The stakes, pipes, iron rebar, and concrete markers are all there for the world to see. I keep them well maintained. Sure, every once in a while he'll run into one - on purpose no doubt - with his little lawn tractor, causing it to bend in my direction. But I just use the Deere's hydraulic arm to straighten them up. I suppose if I was a jerk I might have thought about string up a fence inside of his. In retaliation for the gourds which manage to criss cross the line. Now, if he ever comes out again waving his fists because I've made another fresh batch of gourd butter I am prepared to wave the state's doctrine of self help in front of his face.
Glint
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 19:50:30 (EDT)

My two cents are: Well? Did he get the gondola line up? Guess the bears might find it handy as they tend to be on the lazy side. The odd squirrel or two might leap and land on the roof as it swings around the pully into the station. Is it a loop (two way) gondola or one that has to stop and back up (one way)? Look at the bright side. If the water heater explodes and your house turns into the olympic torch there's a fire truck 50 feet away. You just need to look at the bright side.
Glint
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 19:44:14 (EDT)

My two cents are: That was by Walt Whitman, who shamelessly promoted the queer lifestyle.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 19:43:32 (EDT)

My two cents are: When I heard the learn'd astronomer,/ When the proofs, the figures, were ranged in columns before me,/ When I was shown the charts and diagrams to add,/ divide, and measure them,/ When I sitting heard the astronomer where he lectured with much applause in the lecture room,/ How soon unaccountable I became tired and sick,/ Till rising and gliding out I wander'd off by myself/ In the mystical moist night air, and from time to time, / Look'd up in perfect silence at the stars.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 19:42:44 (EDT)

My two cents are: At the risk of explaining things too clearly, an electric fence pulses electricity, maybe AC maybe DC but I'd assume AC since a battery-driven one is a lot heavier, through a light, bare, steel wire. When we think of fence here we shouldn't be thinking of Joel Chandler Harris rail fences or hurricaine fences or Normandy hedgegrows, no, we're thinking of a slim wire strunk between insulators. What you do is you string this wire on the inside of the neighbor's rail fence, at about neck height on the dog, then "flip the switch." If anybody objects, go down to your local library if it's still open and check out "Evidence and Procedures for Boundary Location" from the tech section, open it to the chapter on metes and bounds, and wave it in front of the neighbors face. Chances are a worm fence is half on your ground to begin with. If it comes to a show of force, destruction of your electric fence, all you really lose is a third of a $3.98 roll of fence wire and maybe a few 9-cent insulators if he is really thorough. Later, when the girls have grown a little, you festoon the whole wall and drain-pipes under their windows with the rest of the wire, and knock half the teen-age boys in the county into the rose-bushes.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 19:38:21 (EDT)

My two cents are: Just checked current weather conditions on the backyard observatory's web site. We have humidity of 100%. No relief from breezes as the wind speed is 0 mph with 0 mph gusts. Dew point = current temp so the grass should be getting damp.
Glint
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 19:35:02 (EDT)

My two cents are: As an aside, this irrational mistrust and/or hatred of neighbors -- anyone's neighbors-- has got to stop. It's corroding your gut, eating you up like a virus. When the man across the street bought the A-frame hunter's shack on its three steep acres for next to nothing he came over and started telling me all about how he could get a snowmobile for a hundred bucks and would bring his fire-engine and his antique generators and his back-hoe and his pressure-tanks and he was going to build a gondola-line across his ravine, and I said in my own mind, yeah, fire-engine, backhoe, right. But I'll be god-damned if I don't pull in one night and there's a fire-engine in his driveway, an old one with no cab roof and weird antique multi-nozzle sprayers, and a damn back-hoe, and every night when he's there this damn generator rigged for LP gas comes on and the place lights up like the World Trade Center. This guy is no tree-hugger. He says he loves being out in the woods all alone but you wouldn't know it, he's like the fucking Mayor of Cincinnatti at a Reds game, gladhanding the whole canyon constantly, there isn't nothing he doesn't know or can't get or won't help with. He feeds the foxes because he wants to help them with his largesse, the way he wants to help everyone, he feeds the fucking squirrels and the chipmunks and worries about them eating the birdseed like John�. Now me, I'm kind to animals situationally. A couple years ago a squirrel decided to spend the winter in the hot-water heater shed outside, where I've kept the pilot going ever since I blew my eyebrows off lighting it after cruising in plastered one midnight, it's warm in there to a squirrel. I hung on practically until March not driving that damn squirrel out, and when I finally judged that he could make it on his own I had to fashion a tool to scrape the squirrel-shit and seed-husks out from under the heater, it's a miracle the place didn't catch on fire. There's still about half a pound of shit under there. For a while I even kept an open garbage pit, figuring I could develop some dump-bears to admire, but in a fit of compassionate conservatism I thought better of it.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 19:28:12 (EDT)

My two cents are: Well, I hoped it wouldn't come to this, but it must be mentioned for the third time that the dog already has one fence around it. It was mentioned at 18:02:37 and then again at 18:35:46. Are you suggesting that I climb over Gourdon's fence and install my own electric fence interior to the aforsaid fence? ........ Oops sorry, I was watching Bob Barr on FoxNews. Or are you perhaps hoping that if an exterior electric fence is placed close enough to the dog's split rail & hog wire fence that when he whizzes on the fence and the stream shoots through that he might take a jolt of juice in the straw? Short of drawing a picture I hope that it is now clear that the formerly snarling dog is surrounded by a fence. The way things are going I'd better draw that picture anyway, just to make sure. The fence is in the right foreground here: http://members.fortunecity.com/fornigate/glint/rainbow1.jpg
Glint
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 19:17:22 (EDT)

My two cents are: Once when I was a kid we stopped at a place where they had a de-stunk skunk, and it was a neat pet. The natural kind, though, they're a pain. They eat mice, and used to come and hunt the mice that lived under the floor of the trailer, so you'd wake up at three a.m. with actual pain from the stench two feet under the bed. Few years ago I set a Hav-a-Hart trap on the deck, right before christmas, because something stole a two-pound brick of cheese out of the snow-bank, woke up in the morning and there was a skunk in the trap. What do you do now? They say that if you drill it in the medulla it won't spray, so I beaded in on it with Grandpa's .22 Winchester model 57 sporter, drilled it right through the back of the skull so it flopped like a pair of galoshes, but it left a stink that drove us back to town for the hols. Next summer I found the cheese wrapper down in the Cathedral of the Cedars, when I was cutting brush.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 19:10:46 (EDT)

My two cents are: That's the idea of an electric fence. One or two jolts is all you need in a dog's lifetime. Maybe an extra anti-exploratory jolt every six months or so if the dog is particularly pushy, you know the kind, the one who runs through grandma's knees on his way to the food bowl just because he doesn't recognize the existence of anyone else. This problem is posited as one of learning where the property line ends, and even the canine equivalent of a Pete� is not so dumb that a little AC won't help him figure it out. Once the line is learned, the bark is reserved for inside it, and everything outside it is where it is supposed to be. For instance, three weeks after the electric fence goes in, the gourd-guarding pooch won't think twice if a grossly overweight black-masked disgruntled out-of-work haole paralegal with a pocket full of webvan.com shares and an insane hatred of reasonable men belly-creeps along the fence-line and aims a deer-rifle at the observatory door, muttering something about liberal traitors, the E-nemies of America.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 19:02:40 (EDT)

My two cents are: The Sasquatch. Is that like the Olney Ale House? I feel your pain over your green wienie neighbor. Sounds like there's a tree hugger on every corner and neck of the woods in California. Last week's dinner guests - the ones from San Diego - mentioned a neighbor who places her scrap wastes out for the skunks. Apparently another friend of theirs knew some kook who came across a run over skunk that wasn't dead. They took it home to their apartment to render aid. (Of course the apartment isn't their property and maybe they had it in for the land lord?) The dingbat called the humane society to come pick up up and they refused. Finally, someone with some sense out there! I guess she eventually nursed the thing back to health and released it. Takes all kinds, and you have them all out there it sounds like.
Glint
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 18:55:33 (EDT)

My two cents are: Flip off the light switch. A simple solution. Of course, if it's summer-time and the bottom floor is not cold enough to drive a man into the loft, there's no reason to keep the loft free of gas fumes so there is no light-switch, only the knob on an Aladdin lamp or a Coleman lantern. You turn off an Aladdin kerosene mantle lamp and you need fifteen minutes to start it up and trim it so the carbon doesn't cake out on the mantle, so forget it. Of course, with the sun shining and the generator running during the day for the power tools the battery is charged and there's plenty of juice, so one turns on lights briefly now and then, and the foxes may be attracted to these flashes. All of this aside from the fact that the VCR and the Jenna Jameson tapes are in the loft, so the gas fumes may be undesirable after all. This self-sufficient libertarian living has plenty of considerations. Your electric fence-charger is sized for horses, cattle, goats, maybe the Duroc sow, and a terrier encountering one if only briefly stays well back beyond pissing distance. Flip the light switch. That's a good one. Maybe it would help to not plug in the curling iron or the microwave as well.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 18:48:32 (EDT)

My two cents are: That capital-gains tax-cut is a great idea. There's nothing so fine for the untrammeled working of a free market than preferential tax treatment of certain categories of income! This is right in line with the New Republicanism! I say give it a go, and watch the poor folk reap the inevitable benefits.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 18:38:51 (EDT)

My two cents are: Solution's simple. Flip off the damn light switch and the foxes won't come over to where they can admire their own pinched loaves beneath your false sun. Now, as for the electric fence, how is that ever going to stop dog on the other side of yet a second fence from barking? No, I like my solution better. It's based on gentle patience and understanding accompanied with documentation that can be read by the dog's own God given snout.
Glint
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 18:35:46 (EDT)

My two cents are: And speaking of shit, I spotted a giant lump of bear shit down across the ravine whilst cruising to far side, full of some sort of bean-like items which I did not inspect closely. Talk about Teresa's anal sphincter after a month of Philly door-men, this creature must have had a rectum the calibre of a softball pitching-machine. I judged him to be a four-hundred-pounder at least. It's that time of year when the bears are filling up for the winter. Wait for them and you won't have to saw up and cart off your rotten stumps, they come and do the work for you, to get at the termites.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 18:35:43 (EDT)

My two cents are: Bush May Cut Capital Gains Tax By Alan Fram Associated Press Writer Tuesday, Sept. 4, 2001; 6:52 p.m. EDT WASHINGTON -- President Bush opened the door Tuesday to a future cut in the capital gains tax, a longtime Republican prescription for reviving an ailing economy, but said he first wants to see the effects of last spring's income tax cut.
great news when it eventually happens
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 18:28:37 (EDT)

My two cents are: BB gun is good. Electric fence. Surprised you haven't installed one, they're cheap, maybe about a hundred bucks including the wire and a handle with red plastic insulation for the gate. Problem with the small dog was that when it barked, you eventually went away, so it felt successful. Worked every time. A man's got to patrol without cease, beat the bounds continuously, to keep his freehold secure. Just this past week, the damn foxes shit all over the porch or deck just about every night. The super-friendly neighbor who built the laird's castle after buying the shack-site across the street and tearing down the shack is off in Croatia taking a language course, getting in touch with his roots. The fool feeds his leftovers to the foxes on the deck, and since he's gone they come over to my lights and express their annoyance at the provender by pinching loaf. It was worth it, not having the guy come over all the time and offer to lend me tools or help out with his back-hoe or invite me to dinner down at the Sasquatch and not let me pay. The whole thing is about him when he's around. My ladder, my utility trailer, my antique fire-engine, my cold-chisel, my peavey pole. Much nicer when he's not there, as wonderful as he is.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 18:26:50 (EDT)

My two cents are: Do you or any of your neighbors have annoying barking dogs? Gourdon has one of some species that has a shrill bark louder than any other dog in the neighborhood. It used to be that whenever you'd step outside the thing would start wailing, even though it's 100 yards or more away. And if you're out on a midnight walk -- forget it! The thing's going ROW!ROW!ROW!ROW!WOO!WOO!ARF!ARFYAP!YAP!YAP!YOWWWL! The dog appeared to be unaware of the legal boundaries and relatively puny size of its own 1 ac plot. The dog apparently had some other world view in which it envisioned its territory extending to the limit of its own vision. The obvious answer was to challenge the dog's views in a way that it could understand. I took to carrying a soda bottle around (wide mouthed of course) while walking the normal laps around the property. The bottle and its subsequent contents came in handy for other things as well. Eventually, the dog stopped its yapping as it realized that not only is the property beyond the fence not in its own "territory" but neither is the strip of grass between the fence and within about 10 feet of its master's house.
Glint
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 18:02:37 (EDT)

My two cents are: I thought it was all about which star you could see overhead in the summer. But I'm so confused by now that I have no idea which one that is. Can't be Vega, because it's blue, and how can something blue be hot?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 17:52:30 (EDT)

My two cents are: It sure would be sad if the Nasdaq really tanks while Hawaii's greatest portfolio manager is off regarding the new wart-hog crop. Maybe the poor sap should have stayed at home riding the palm pilot.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 17:50:30 (EDT)

My two cents are: Perhaps you're right and between us there's a suitable answer in there somewhere. See, the way I learned it, is that when the two stars with the greatest apparent magnitude -- Sirius and the Sun -- appear together in the sky, then their combined energy was believed [by the Egyptians?] to lead to increases the daytime temperature. Of course, using your Dog Star, Procyon, we find that it is closer to the Ecliptic. Is it possible that the Dog Days of Summer actually came about with the combined light of the sun, Procyon, and Sirius? In other words, is it really the Dogs' Days of Summer?
Glint
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 17:49:08 (EDT)

My two cents are: The weird-ass neighbor from across the street, the white guy with the ugly wife and the black stepson, just brought my package for me that I asked him to hide if it showed up on the front porch. I'll go out and install its contents right now. What is it with all these helpful neighbors? First the old geezer with news of the fire and now this weirdo? I wish these people would plant some gourds or something so I could attack them with my Weed-Eater�.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 17:47:03 (EDT)

My two cents are: Besides, the ash-tray is already full of pennies and nickels, burnt-out fuses, and unidentifiable keys.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 17:44:03 (EDT)

My two cents are: Always heard that Procyon is the Dog Star. That's why we call it the dog days. Or maybe, now that I think of it, Sirius is the Dog Star, and that's why we call it the dog days. Learned my stars in 1969, writing a paper on navigation for Astronomy 10, during the People's Park riots, or whatever they were. That's why I miss the golem, someone who knows his way around the heavens, as the memories fade. So, what do you do after you hit Omega Vega? Do you start over, like a Lotus spreadsheet column? Alpha Omega Vega? Me and the bald-eyed ancient Greeks never had to worry about all that, although it must be a problem for the Masai warrior and his hardwood stick.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 17:36:28 (EDT)

My two cents are: I suppose I could use the ash-tray. But then if I ever had to give the vicar a ride, he would know that I smoked, or at least that I permitted smoking in my vehicle. No, the place for a cigarette butt is the roadside ditch, same at for beer cans and empty Canadian Club mickeys.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 17:29:17 (EDT)

My two cents are: From west to east you should have beheld Saturn, having been Gored by the bull's horns, Jupiter, which should make a nearly equilateral triangle with Procyon and Betelgeuse, and Venus, east of the twins and closing in the sun. Although Procyon (you say Procyon, I say Alpha Canis Minoris) is a dog star, it is not the Dog Star. That honor belongs of course to Alpha Canis Majoris or, as you would say, Sirius. I suppose if you wanted to weeble and dodge you could even call Alpha Canum Venaticorum "the dog star" as well.
Glint
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 17:28:04 (EDT)

My two cents are: Wednesday morning I went out to micturate into the woods, and the sky was smokey. Grizzled veteran that I am, I guessed that something was burning. Later in the day the neighbor courteously came over and told me that the nearest town was on fire, twenty-five miles away, had been burning since Tuesday afternoon. Yes, we had made a run to that town on Tuesday, to the hardware store for paint and pipe, and to the green-grocer's for spuds and crackers, left about one o'clock, and yes, I had chucked a butt or two out the window, but I swear we were never on the side of the mountain where the conflagration started. I have often wondered whether cigarette butts are a useful substrate for fingerprints, and my wonderment usually leads me to hold the dog-end of a smoke out the window and roll the cinders out of it into the dry forest, then drive for a mile or two before flinging out the potentially incriminating butt itself. One cannot be too careful in a world gone mad from nanny-ism.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 17:26:05 (EDT)

My two cents are: I can see it's going to be tough to make it through the month without the subtle wisdom of the golem to rap off of. And the day seems a little less bright, somehow less easy to bear, without the encouragement of an occasional toodles, doink, or foop. Winding through the mountains, I noticed a bright celestial object north and a little east of Orion, or up off to the left of what appeared to be the bull's horns, halfway to the next star-group on the ecliptic, which would be, what, Castor and Pollux? Then, a hundred miles or so further, on the open ground and freeway, with the light washing out most of the stars, there was a large star south by a few points east which I took to be Procyon, the Dog Star, and there was a brighter light to the east and higher, and a very bright object yet east of that. Which of these last two was the light I had seen between Taurus and Gemini? I had guessed Saturn. Was this brightest light now Venus? It was about two fists of arc above the eastern horizon, the fist held at arm's length. Bo�tes and Vega nowhere to be seen, oh how I miss the golem's astronomical expertise.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 17:14:02 (EDT)

My two cents are: I would like to be able to come up with a snappy rejoinder, but had to get up at 1:30 this morning to make it to work on time, and the brain is not what it could be. Of course maybe this rum and coffee will help. Found a bill in the mailbox for $345.00 for garbage collection, sewer, and drainage. Drainage? In a libertarian society we would let the water run down hill and not charge decent citizens for it. But that's for nine months, so it's around $40.00 for all those fine services. The water does seem to flow into some sort of engineered hole in the ground, so maybe there are costs involved.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 17:04:39 (EDT)

My two cents are: I blame the anti-tax troglodytes for closing the library in my town.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 17:00:07 (EDT)

My two cents are: Didn't the liberals win the Scopes Monkey Trial? Or was that the conservatives?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 16:24:45 (EDT)

My two cents are: I tend to blame the socialist traitors for things, not the pre-Jesus Christians, and certainly not the Moslems of any time. They are the world's natural conservatives, I find.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 16:22:20 (EDT)

My two cents are: Point taken. I will confess a feeling of shame when groups who associate themselves with the Christian faith overstep their bounds. What I am talking about is the second burning of the Library at Alexandria. I vigorously denounce that burning. However, don't blame Christians for burning it the first time in 47 BCE. I also denounce the Moslems for burning the library for the third and final time in 642 CE.
Glint
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 15:37:24 (EDT)

My two cents are: The Salem Witch trials, the Haymarket Riots, the Trial of Sacco and Vanzetti, the Days of Rage in Chicago, the attempt to liberate Symbion, name me one that the liberals won? Sure, they won World War II, but that was started by Woodrow Wilson, a known liberal, and it was "fought" against the liberal Hitler and the parlor pinko Hirohito, so it was probably fixed.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 14:43:33 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sodom and Gomorrah, the Rape of Crete, the Slaughter of the Jacquerie, the Spanish Inquisition, the Purge of the Kulaks-- you name it, dude. The liberals never win these things.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 14:36:29 (EDT)

My two cents are: Dang. If it weren't for this Brewer genius, I could say that the liberals won.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 14:34:26 (EDT)

My two cents are: http://www.politicalusa.com/columnists/brewer/brewer_019.htm

- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 10:45:04 (EDT)

My two cents are: Don't need to remind him. Pete took the sniffer with him. It's small enough to slip under the seat in front. He's hoping to use the African data to triangulate the output port posing as 110.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 10:28:06 (EDT)

My two cents are: Oh I see. Personnally however, I prefer the twatted Liberal tactics myself. Seems more cunning whtn the tactics are commandeered.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 10:24:46 (EDT)

My two cents are: When Pete� comes back from safari, will someone try to remember to ask him to use his packet sniffer and retrieve the archive from Port 110?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 10:23:16 (EDT)

My two cents are: The Pee Pee and Doody tale, while certainly not funny and certainly juvenile, is merely an example of using right wing tactics. Similar in nature to Pete calling women cunts and telling them to spread their twats.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 10:15:52 (EDT)

My two cents are: I'm warning you, faux glint@09:32:34, if this keeps up I may have to resort to using Ydog's old verification code. Of course it was easily broken, as the dog was very energy efficient when it came to brain power.
Glint
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 09:38:39 (EDT)

My two cents are: A pinched loaf is one thing, a very funny thing. But can't you just get your mind out of the toilet?
Glint
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 09:32:34 (EDT)

My two cents are: What was that story about? Oh I get it. Some fantasy wedding between Eleanor Clift and John Conyers. Yeah, o..k. - good.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 09:31:52 (EDT)

My two cents are: Thank you, faux Glints @8:11 and @08:10:27 . Do I need to start adding the "TM" or something? Or perhaps you'd like to append it when you post. Come back if you can get your mind out of the toilet. <g!>
Glint
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 09:28:36 (EDT)

My two cents are: That ought to be great over a 300 baud modem.
Glint
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 08:11:55 (EDT)

My two cents are: Pee Pee and Doody get Married in the Toilet It was a wonderful long awaited occasion. Everybody knew that Pee Pee and Doody have been together for a very long time and were hoping this day would eventually come. Finally a few weeks ago Doody splashed down in the toilet and said, "Pee Pee? Will you marry me?" Pee Pee crying her yellow tears of joy said, "Of course Doody! I love you!" Doody wept a brown hersheys kiss and said, "I love you too!" Pee Pee swirled all around the toilet making a little whirlpool of joy as Doody lay back and enjoyed the ride. The date was announced and the invitations were flushed to everyone (and anyone who is anyone in Toiletland was invited) ?the honored guests included: Throw Up, Doo-Doo Wipe Toilet Paper, Used Bloody Tampon, Spit Gobber, Cigarette Butt, Diarrhea Splat Splat, Puss Covered Bandaid, and even Snotrag. The event was the closest thing to royalty Toiletland would ever know. The day of the wedding was glorious. And all invited guests waited for the arrival of Doody and Pee Pee. The stall was decorated tastefully with toilet paper- it was all very glamorous. The creak of the bathroom door alerted the guests to quiet down as the arrival of the bride and the groom was close at hand. A few flies buzzed around overly excited for this emotional event and Throw Up shushed them up. Used Bloody Tampon wrapped her string around her in a fashionable twist and Doo Doo Wipe Toilet Paper was covered with brown smear hearts for the occasion. Many guests were crowded around Snotrag to blow their noses and dry their tears as many were overcome by the beauty that surrounded them. The guests stared anxiously upwards as the room darkened and the butt covered the toilet sky. The butthole opened slowly and Doody emerged looking crisp and clean as any doody ever has. His doo doo skin was smoothed neatly and he was completely nut free. A glistening handsome elegant deep brown ploppy that made the guests gasp in awe. Doody dove into the toilet splashlessly, twisted once and then gently floated to the top. The guests made space for him as he waited impatiently for the arrival of his bride. Within moments Pee Pee sprayed down upon him in a steady graceful stream. She was beautiful and the full force of her yellow love was directed at only on Doody- they embraced each other lovingly and the guests expressed appreciative jealousy of the oneness they shared. The flush came all too soon and Pee Pee and Doody lead the way twisting through the exit to the reception deep in the bowels of the sewer system. Doody and Pee Pee were off to celebrate a life forever intertwined- radiating to all a security that in grand plan of life and love- some things are truly made to be.
Glint
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 08:10:27 (EDT)

My two cents are: Typeing htis on a 300-bod modem at hte Nairobi Ramada Inn. My assigned tour "buddy" Mrs. Edberg forgot to take her Lomotil and ended up with an everted rectum. I volenteered to atke her to the clinic here because there is a Burger King right xnet door. So far only three words ahve been sent, and I've got to go talk to the surgeon. Toodles! I bin neh ko so baranda.
ePte�
Nairobi, Africa - Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 07:59:10 (EDT)

My two cents are: "We have long advocated the invention of a device that could serve many in public life (why does Clinton spring to mind?) called the Full Body Condom - suits of head to toe latex that would keep, not only the dangly bits but the mouth and mind, out of trouble. Now comes word that the National Enquirer will report this week that they have interviewed another of Gary Condit's girl friends who says that he, at some time during his now legendary sexual career, had his body hair removed so that he could wear rubber accouterment at play time. Obviously, we want to know more. The New York Post Page 6 item and it's link to this story has disappeared but courage....the Enquirer will be out on Thursday."
but i thought ronny was the only guy in the world that shaved his pits? <oh i see...we're not talking about armpits, are we?>
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 07:31:47 (EDT)

My two cents are: So you're in favor of frying innocent retards? You must be a Liberal.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 04, 2001 at 06:15:56 (EDT)

My two cents are: Perhaps that's why he actually said retards should not be subject to the death penalty...unless they're guilty.
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 03, 2001 at 20:45:09 (EDT)

My two cents are: You mean people actually believe Bush's IQ is 91? How gullible! The poor man rates a 61 tops.
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 03, 2001 at 20:44:15 (EDT)

My two cents are: Well, it's just anonymous and myself left. Please stick around, Anonymous, and help carry the torch until Pete's return. Although the enemy has been smitten and has retreated in disarray we can stand arms around each other's shoulder on top of the rock as we proclaim, "We won!" But just in case there are any veterans lurking behind the lesser rocks, I shall recite for their amusement, pending the return of the site poet, a poem. Its name is "Empedocles on Etna" by Matthew Arnold: "No, no, ye stars! There is no death with you, \ No languor, no decay! Languor and death, \ They are with me, not you! You are alive!"
Glint
- Monday, September 03, 2001 at 08:51:43 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sounds like Tawana Brawley the second. Has anyone thought to call Al Sharpton yet? She was probably out fucking around on her boyfriend and made up the entire thing. /////////// .TEXARKANA, Texas (AP) - Police are investigating allegations by a black woman who says two white men assaulted her and carved the letters KKK on her chest. The 32-year-old woman was hospitalized Thursday for a bump on her head, cuts and bruises. ``We are looking into an incident that happened earlier this week where a woman was abducted and assaulted,'' said Cass County Chief Deputy Ronnie Fincher. When contacted Sunday, police said they would have no further comment on the case until Tuesday. The woman said the attack took place in Bivins, about 150 miles east of Dallas. Her name was being withheld to protect her family. The woman told the Texarkana Gazette she was walking home at about 6 p.m. Wednesday when she was approached by two men driving a pickup truck. She said they wore sheets or pillow cases over their heads and taunted her with a racist name. ``I took off running but they drove toward me and knocked me down by opening the truck door,'' she said. She said she was forced into the cab and hit in the back of her head. ``I don't remember too much after that,'' she said. After being held all night at an unknown location, the woman said she was thrown out of the truck.
Woman Says Men Carved KKK on Her
- Monday, September 03, 2001 at 08:40:23 (EDT)

My two cents are: After facing fierce derision Israel is threatening to walk out of the UN's Racist Conference. Can't say I would blame them a bit. Powell saw it coming and made the right move. Then there's the flapping craw of the U.S. delegation'sBarbara Lee from California, who is trying to distract attention away from issues of world racism to the Congressional Black Caucus. I denounce theCongressional White Caucus for not sending a delegation.
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 03, 2001 at 08:30:40 (EDT)

My two cents are: XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX SUNDAY SEPTEMBER 2, 2001 21:25:07 ET XXXXX DUMBSBURY: GARRY TRUDEAU FOOLED BY PRESIDENT I.Q. HOAX Comicwriter Garry Trudeau is so determined to undermine President Bush -- he's now resorted to using a phony Internet IQ study of American presidents. In Sunday's Doonesbury installment, Trudeau draws President Bush in conversation with adviser Karl Rove who tells the president that he received a 91 I.Q. in "an I.Q. ranking of modern presidents". Rove also informs Bush that "Clinton got 182 -- double your score." But a quick Internet or Lexis-Nexis search shows that the study is an Internet hoax hatched by the non-existent Lovenstein Institute of Scranton Pennsylvania. Among the mainstream press to inform readers that the study was bogus were the ASSOCIATED PRESS on August 12, and US NEWS AND WORLD REPORT in its August 20 edition. X X X X X
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 03, 2001 at 07:16:37 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 03, 2001 at 07:15:16 (EDT)

My two cents are: We won! Hallelujah!!
Glint
- Monday, September 03, 2001 at 06:41:33 (EDT)

My two cents are: http://members.boardhost.com/americanpolitic/msg/94.html

- Sunday, September 02, 2001 at 22:04:45 (EDT)

My two cents are: "A Modest Proposal for preventing the children of poor people in Ireland, from being a burden on their parents or country, and for making them beneficial to the publick" -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It is a melancholy object to those, who walk through this great town, or travel in the country, when they see the streets, the roads and cabbin-doors crowded with beggars of the female sex, followed by three, four, or six children, all in rags, and importuning every passenger for an alms. These mothers instead of being able to work for their honest livelihood, are forced to employ all their time in stroling to beg sustenance for their helpless infants who, as they grow up, either turn thieves for want of work, or leave their dear native country, to fight for the Pretender in Spain, or sell themselves to the Barbadoes. I think it is agreed by all parties, that this prodigious number of children in the arms, or on the backs, or at the heels of their mothers, and frequently of their fathers, is in the present deplorable state of the kingdom, a very great additional grievance; and therefore whoever could find out a fair, cheap and easy method of making these children sound and useful members of the common-wealth, would deserve so well of the publick, as to have his statue set up for a preserver of the nation. But my intention is very far from being confined to provide only for the children of professed beggars: it is of a much greater extent, and shall take in the whole number of infants at a certain age, who are born of parents in effect as little able to support them, as those who demand our charity in the streets. As to my own part, having turned my thoughts for many years, upon this important subject, and maturely weighed the several schemes of our projectors, I have always found them grossly mistaken in their computation. It is true, a child just dropt from its dam, may be supported by her milk, for a solar year, with little other nourishment: at most not above the value of two shillings, which the mother may certainly get, or the value in scraps, by her lawful occupation of begging; and it is exactly at one year old that I propose to provide for them in such a manner, as, instead of being a charge upon their parents, or the parish, or wanting food and raiment for the rest of their lives, they shall, on the contrary, contribute to the feeding, and partly to the cloathing of many thousands. There is likewise another great advantage in my scheme, that it will prevent those voluntary abortions, and that horrid practice of women murdering their bastard children, alas! too frequent among us, sacrificing the poor innocent babes, I doubt, more to avoid the expence than the shame, which would move tears and pity in the most savage and inhuman breast. The number of souls in this kingdom being usually reckoned one million and a half, of these I calculate there may be about two hundred thousand couple whose wives are breeders; from which number I subtract thirty thousand couple, who are able to maintain their own children, (although I apprehend there cannot be so many, under the present distresses of the kingdom) but this being granted, there will remain an hundred and seventy thousand breeders. I again subtract fifty thousand, for those women who miscarry, or whose children die by accident or disease within the year. There only remain an hundred and twenty thousand children of poor parents annually born. The question therefore is, How this number shall be reared, and provided for? which, as I have already said, under the present situation of affairs, is utterly impossible by all the methods hitherto proposed. For we can neither employ them in handicraft or agriculture; we neither build houses, (I mean in the country) nor cultivate land: they can very seldom pick up a livelihood by stealing till they arrive at six years old; except where they are of towardly parts, although I confess they learn the rudiments much earlier; during which time they can however be properly looked upon only as probationers: As I have been informed by a principal gentleman in the county of Cavan, who protested to me, that he never knew above one or two instances under the age of six, even in a part of the kingdom so renowned for the quickest proficiency in that art. I am assured by our merchants, that a boy or a girl before twelve years old, is no saleable commodity, and even when they come to this age, they will not yield above three pounds, or three pounds and half a crown at most, on the exchange; which cannot turn to account either to the parents or kingdom, the charge of nutriments and rags having been at least four times that value. I shall now therefore humbly propose my own thoughts, which I hope will not be liable to the least objection. I have been assured by a very knowing American of my acquaintance in London, that a young healthy child well nursed, is, at a year old, a most delicious nourishing and wholesome food, whether stewed, roasted, baked, or boiled; and I make no doubt that it will equally serve in a fricasie, or a ragoust. I do therefore humbly offer it to publick consideration, that of the hundred and twenty thousand children, already computed, twenty thousand may be reserved for breed, whereof only one fourth part to be males; which is more than we allow to sheep, black cattle, or swine, and my reason is, that these children are seldom the fruits of marriage, a circumstance not much regarded by our savages, therefore, one male will be sufficient to serve four females. That the remaining hundred thousand may, at a year old, be offered in sale to the persons of quality and fortune, through the kingdom, always advising the mother to let them suck plentifully in the last month, so as to render them plump, and fat for a good table. A child will make two dishes at an entertainment for friends, and when the family dines alone, the fore or hind quarter will make a reasonable dish, and seasoned with a little pepper or salt, will be very good boiled on the fourth day, especially in winter. I have reckoned upon a medium, that a child just born will weigh 12 pounds, and in a solar year, if tolerably nursed, encreaseth to 28 pounds. I grant this food will be somewhat dear, and therefore very proper for landlords, who, as they have already devoured most of the parents, seem to have the best title to the children. Infant's flesh will be in season throughout the year, but more plentiful in March, and a little before and after; for we are told by a grave author, an eminent French physician, that fish being a prolifick dyet, there are more children born in Roman Catholick countries about nine months after Lent, the markets will be more glutted than usual, because the number of Popish infants, is at least three to one in this kingdom, and therefore it will have one other collateral advantage, by lessening the number of Papists among us. I have already computed the charge of nursing a beggar's child (in which list I reckon all cottagers, labourers, and four-fifths of the farmers) to be about two shillings per annum, rags included; and I believe no gentleman would repine to give ten shillings for the carcass of a good fat child, which, as I have said, will make four dishes of excellent nutritive meat, when he hath only some particular friend, or his own family to dine with him. Thus the squire will learn to be a good landlord, and grow popular among his tenants, the mother will have eight shillings neat profit, and be fit for work till she produces another child. Those who are more thrifty (as I must confess the times require) may flea the carcass; the skin of which, artificially dressed, will make admirable gloves for ladies, and summer boots for fine gentlemen. As to our City of Dublin, shambles may be appointed for this purpose, in the most convenient parts of it, and butchers we may be assured will not be wanting; although I rather recommend buying the children alive, and dressing them hot from the knife, as we do roasting pigs. A very worthy person, a true lover of his country, and whose virtues I highly esteem, was lately pleased, in discoursing on this matter, to offer a refinement upon my scheme. He said, that many gentlemen of this kingdom, having of late destroyed their deer, he conceived that the want of venison might be well supply'd by the bodies of young lads and maidens, not exceeding fourteen years of age, nor under twelve; so great a number of both sexes in every country being now ready to starve for want of work and service: And these to be disposed of by their parents if alive, or otherwise by their nearest relations. But with due deference to so excellent a friend, and so deserving a patriot, I cannot be altogether in his sentiments; for as to the males, my American acquaintance assured me from frequent experience, that their flesh was generally tough and lean, like that of our school-boys, by continual exercise, and their taste disagreeable, and to fatten them would not answer the charge. Then as to the females, it would, I think, with humble submission, be a loss to the publick, because they soon would become breeders themselves: And besides, it is not improbable that some scrupulous people might be apt to censure such a practice, (although indeed very unjustly) as a little bordering upon cruelty, which, I confess, hath always been with me the strongest objection against any project, how well soever intended. But in order to justify my friend, he confessed, that this expedient was put into his head by the famous Salmanaazor, a native of the island Formosa, who came from thence to London, above twenty years ago, and in conversation told my friend, that in his country, when any young person happened to be put to death, the executioner sold the carcass to persons of quality, as a prime dainty; and that, in his time, the body of a plump girl of fifteen, who was crucified for an attempt to poison the Emperor, was sold to his imperial majesty's prime minister of state, and other great mandarins of the court in joints from the gibbet, at four hundred crowns. Neither indeed can I deny, that if the same use were made of several plump young girls in this town, who without one single groat to their fortunes, cannot stir abroad without a chair, and appear at a play-house and assemblies in foreign fineries which they never will pay for; the kingdom would not be the worse. Some persons of a desponding spirit are in great concern about that vast number of poor people, who are aged, diseased, or maimed; and I have been desired to employ my thoughts what course may be taken, to ease the nation of so grievous an incumbrance. But I am not in the least pain upon that matter, because it is very well known, that they are every day dying, and rotting, by cold and famine, and filth, and vermin, as fast as can be reasonably expected. And as to the young labourers, they are now in almost as hopeful a condition. They cannot get work, and consequently pine away from want of nourishment, to a degree, that if at any time they are accidentally hired to common labour, they have not strength to perform it, and thus the country and themselves are happily delivered from the evils to come. I have too long digressed, and therefore shall return to my subject. I think the advantages by the proposal which I have made are obvious and many, as well as of the highest importance. For first, as I have already observed, it would greatly lessen the number of Papists, with whom we are yearly over-run, being the principal breeders of the nation, as well as our most dangerous enemies, and who stay at home on purpose with a design to deliver the kingdom to the Pretender, hoping to take their advantage by the absence of so many good Protestants, who have chosen rather to leave their country, than stay at home and pay tithes against their conscience to an episcopal curate. Secondly, The poorer tenants will have something valuable of their own, which by law may be made liable to a distress, and help to pay their landlord's rent, their corn and cattle being already seized, and money a thing unknown. Thirdly, Whereas the maintainance of an hundred thousand children, from two years old, and upwards, cannot be computed at less than ten shillings a piece per annum, the nation's stock will be thereby encreased fifty thousand pounds per annum, besides the profit of a new dish, introduced to the tables of all gentlemen of fortune in the kingdom, who have any refinement in taste. And the money will circulate among our selves, the goods being entirely of our own growth and manufacture. Fourthly, The constant breeders, besides the gain of eight shillings sterling per annum by the sale of their children, will be rid of the charge of maintaining them after the first year. Fifthly, This food would likewise bring great custom to taverns, where the vintners will certainly be so prudent as to procure the best receipts for dressing it to perfection; and consequently have their houses frequented by all the fine gentlemen, who justly value themselves upon their knowledge in good eating; and a skilful cook, who understands how to oblige his guests, will contrive to make it as expensive as they please. Sixthly, This would be a great inducement to marriage, which all wise nations have either encouraged by rewards, or enforced by laws and penalties. It would encrease the care and tenderness of mothers towards their children, when they were sure of a settlement for life to the poor babes, provided in some sort by the publick, to their annual profit instead of expence. We should soon see an honest emulation among the married women, which of them could bring the fattest child to the market. Men would become as fond of their wives, during the time of their pregnancy, as they are now of their mares in foal, their cows in calf, or sow when they are ready to farrow; nor offer to beat or kick them (as is too frequent a practice) for fear of a miscarriage. Many other advantages might be enumerated. For instance, the addition of some thousand carcasses in our exportation of barrel'd beef: the propagation of swine's flesh, and improvement in the art of making good bacon, so much wanted among us by the great destruction of pigs, too frequent at our tables; which are no way comparable in taste or magnificence to a well grown, fat yearly child, which roasted whole will make a considerable figure at a Lord Mayor's feast, or any other publick entertainment. But this, and many others, I omit, being studious of brevity. Supposing that one thousand families in this city, would be constant customers for infants flesh, besides others who might have it at merry meetings, particularly at weddings and christenings, I compute that Dublin would take off annually about twenty thousand carcasses; and the rest of the kingdom (where probably they will be sold somewhat cheaper) the remaining eighty thousand. I can think of no one objection, that will possibly be raised against this proposal, unless it should be urged, that the number of people will be thereby much lessened in the kingdom. This I freely own, and 'twas indeed one principal design in offering it to the world. I desire the reader will observe, that I calculate my remedy for this one individual Kingdom of Ireland, and for no other that ever was, is, or, I think, ever can be upon Earth. Therefore let no man talk to me of other expedients: Of taxing our absentees at five shillings a pound: Of using neither cloaths, nor houshold furniture, except what is of our own growth and manufacture: Of utterly rejecting the materials and instruments that promote foreign luxury: Of curing the expensiveness of pride, vanity, idleness, and gaming in our women: Of introducing a vein of parsimony, prudence and temperance: Of learning to love our country, wherein we differ even from Laplanders, and the inhabitants of Topinamboo: Of quitting our animosities and factions, nor acting any longer like the Jews, who were murdering one another at the very moment their city was taken: Of being a little cautious not to sell our country and consciences for nothing: Of teaching landlords to have at least one degree of mercy towards their tenants. Lastly, of putting a spirit of honesty, industry, and skill into our shop-keepers, who, if a resolution could now be taken to buy only our native goods, would immediately unite to cheat and exact upon us in the price, the measure, and the goodness, nor could ever yet be brought to make one fair proposal of just dealing, though often and earnestly invited to it. Therefore I repeat, let no man talk to me of these and the like expedients, 'till he hath at least some glympse of hope, that there will ever be some hearty and sincere attempt to put them into practice. But, as to my self, having been wearied out for many years with offering vain, idle, visionary thoughts, and at length utterly despairing of success, I fortunately fell upon this proposal, which, as it is wholly new, so it hath something solid and real, of no expence and little trouble, full in our own power, and whereby we can incur no danger in disobliging England. For this kind of commodity will not bear exportation, and flesh being of too tender a consistence, to admit a long continuance in salt, although perhaps I could name a country, which would be glad to eat up our whole nation without it. After all, I am not so violently bent upon my own opinion, as to reject any offer, proposed by wise men, which shall be found equally innocent, cheap, easy, and effectual. But before something of that kind shall be advanced in contradiction to my scheme, and offering a better, I desire the author or authors will be pleased maturely to consider two points. First, As things now stand, how they will be able to find food and raiment for a hundred thousand useless mouths and backs. And secondly, There being a round million of creatures in humane figure throughout this kingdom, whose whole subsistence put into a common stock, would leave them in debt two million of pounds sterling, adding those who are beggars by profession, to the bulk of farmers, cottagers and labourers, with their wives and children, who are beggars in effect; I desire those politicians who dislike my overture, and may perhaps be so bold to attempt an answer, that they will first ask the parents of these mortals, whether they would not at this day think it a great happiness to have been sold for food at a year old, in the manner I prescribe, and thereby have avoided such a perpetual scene of misfortunes, as they have since gone through, by the oppression of landlords, the impossibility of paying rent without money or trade, the want of common sustenance, with neither house nor cloaths to cover them from the inclemencies of the weather, and the most inevitable prospect of intailing the like, or greater miseries, upon their breed for ever. I profess, in the sincerity of my heart, that I have not the least personal interest in endeavouring to promote this necessary work, having no other motive than the publick good of my country, by advancing our trade, providing for infants, relieving the poor, and giving some pleasure to the rich. I have no children, by which I can propose to get a single penny; the youngest being nine years old, and my wife past child-bearing.
Dr. Jonathan Swift
- Sunday, September 02, 2001 at 20:43:43 (EDT)

My two cents are: My two cents are: So they next day (day after the fishfry) we headed east through yazoo city to Kosciuko miss. where ms y's grandmother and uncle live. Terrain was hillier and the kudzu draped the trees to where they looked like huge statues. The grandmother is 87 now and after some talking and some lunch we all drove out to the cemetary (here it comes glint, but there's still another cemetary in the story too) where ms y's mother is buried. Ms y had a good cry since she hadn't been back since her mothers funeral at age 11. Granny explained the history of the family plots and pointed to a large tombstone aways off that was a statue of a woman. Granny said "that man sent a picture of his wife off to france to have that statue made and had it set up high so he could see it from his house. Later he said he wished he'd never done that because every time it rained all he could see was tears streaming down here face." ydog - Monday, October 23, 2000 at 09:14:21 (EDT)
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 02, 2001 at 20:06:04 (EDT)

My two cents are: Good evening, Liberals. Happy anniversary on the 1969 death of Ho Chi Minh. Last week's dinner guests were Californians, from San Diego. An amateur astronomer and his wife. As I recall he reported that electric rates were about triple this year. Does that sound about right?
Glint
- Sunday, September 02, 2001 at 18:45:30 (EDT)

My two cents are: http://vatican.rotten.com/infantiphagia/taboo2.jpg
abortion rights advocate
- Sunday, September 02, 2001 at 15:00:32 (EDT)

My two cents are: http://vatican.rotten.com/sixtyfour/
Earl & Eleanor
- Sunday, September 02, 2001 at 13:43:30 (EDT)

My two cents are: http://vatican.rotten.com/shavedpussy/
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 02, 2001 at 13:27:33 (EDT)

My two cents are: http://www.whatshotin.com/chat/lobby.html
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 02, 2001 at 13:08:49 (EDT)

My two cents are: Last night's dinner guests were from Mongtomery County -- Ydog's home planet. Seems they have their own neighbor problems. Only difference is their neighbors are wealthy horse owners, who actually aren't their neighbors. Seems the horse farm next to theirs board upscale horses at rents running around $500/month. The owner has a live-in stable master but the owner himself lives on another farm a short distance away. The owner's farm has riding trails that the people who board their horses are allowed to use. Our friends, whose property the horse owners have to cross to get to the trails, are also permitted to use the trails for their horses and their kids have four wheelers whic they and their friends tool around on. The kids, who are all comfortable with horses, have rules that includes giving horses the right of way, and turning off their engines when horses approach. Apparently some of the uppity rhinestone cowgirls who drive their Lexuses out to go horse riding don't cotton much to sharing the trails with the kids and especially their machines. There's been ugly shouting matches as the horse owners bitch to their husbands who then jump behind the wheel and speed up to our friend's barn after hearing only one side of the story. Some conversations begin with, "Do you know that I'm a lawyer?" The Washington area is rotten with lawyers, but many of them are patent attorneys, title insurance lawyers, FCC lawyers, and the like. The bottom line is our friends and the owner of the neighboring horse parking lot, are buiding a fence to keep the boarders off from both farms. They'll be able to ride around the 40 or so acres immediately surrounding the barn, but the 300-400 acres of combined trails will be off limits to them. However, the kids will still have access to them with their four wheelers and their own horses. We all have our gourds to mow.
Glint
- Sunday, September 02, 2001 at 12:25:59 (EDT)

My two cents are: Well, we got our tax rebates today, too. She wants to save it, but I told that, whether we spend ours or not, The Dems and the Reps will carry on as usual, so we ought to just do what we want. My quandry is, do I shop around to a couple of used 9mm Glocks (she seems to handle them well, despite the MS) or buy new Kel-Tec P-11's? I prefer the P-11's, as they have all the same fire-power as the newer (compact) Glocks, but are not only cheaper, but hella smaller. I could get on each, Glock and Kel-Tec, but I'd rather get a double, that way, either of us can use the other's and still feel comfortable with the equipment.
1:20 am and I'm still not sleepy <[email protected]>
Here, NJ USA - Saturday, September 01, 2001 at 22:28:11 (EDT)

My two cents are: Ydog's irrational fear of Carroll County due to the negative (I would call favorable) conservative ranking on the turnleft.com web site kept him furiously checking the archives of the Carroll County Times daily newspaper. The problem? Caroll County is a conservative bastion in the otherwise Socialist Liberal People's Republic of Maryland. It hasn't always been that way, and hence -- the T H E O R Y * O F * T H E * G O U R D S (gourds gourds gourds [echo] ....) Once upon a time Carroll was full of commies packing secret documents to be shipped off to Moscow in pumpkin patches all around the county until Whittaker Chambers pulled up the circus tent and exposed Alger Hiss for the traiterous treasonous foul drippy sissy creature that he was. So what does that have to do with mowing gourds? That's a dumb question. If we mow all the gourds then all the commies won't have any pumpkins to stuff with their commie contraband. How do we know which gourds are good and which are bad? Good question, but why not mow them all and let God sort them out? Pete's observation that Gourdon might be a socialist pretty much seals the fate of his gourds. The proof? Gourdon's irrational claim that property that belongs to me is "county property." It is the socialist dream of state owned land that seals the fate of the gourds. I will mow them when I feel llike it. And I did feel like it today! I don't mow Gourdon's gourds -- only my gourds. If they're on my land they are my gourds. They're my gourds and I'll mow them if I want to! Mow them if I want to! Mow them if I want to!
Glint
- Saturday, September 01, 2001 at 21:25:38 (EDT)

My two cents are: Virgil, my friend. It is good to see you back. The Mrs. said we got our refund today. To be honest with you, I'm only goint to hang onto it for a couple of weeks until it goes back with the Sept. 17 quarterly tax payment. Taxes are still too high gobbling up more than 1/3 of income, since there's no nanny employer to pay their usual share, so I have to shell out what most others don't have to. <gt; It's hard to believe that John has been buried for half a year. Way back when, when John used to talk about visiting his wife at Arlington it was obvious that the whole Arlington honor thing was very dear to him. He seemed to almost look forward to the day that he would lie on top of her in their common grave. I could tell that it was important to him and promised him that when the day came I would visit him there. This made Ydog squeamish and he complained about the corpse launches, but John responded by posting his grave site address on this page. So far, I have been there three times, including the time that they lowered his body into the ground. It seems so strange now, yet so perfectly logical at the same time. Here was a man who lived a full life -- career, family and his own agenda -- who like most of us don't think of that final day when the sun shines on our flesh and the air caresses us for the last time. I don't think any of us actually met John, and few of us ever heard John's voice. I know Pete spoke with John by telephone while John was in the hospital, but who else did? Then, on the day he was buries there was I. A person who John had never met and a voice John had never heard at his very graveside as the bugler played taps in honor of a Life John lived -- a life that I had no part in experiencing. Yet in his final months John spent his time on this and the Linda Tripp page in activities that in the broader aspect of his life experience were trivial. Yet, through this trivial endeavor came forth one appeared not in his life but at the very instant that his earthly existence ceased. In retrospect it leaves this person with parallel senses of awe -- to be privileged to share with John his final moments above the dusty ground, yet a piercing feeling of inadequacy for having not personally known, in the flesh, the man who was John Dichard. The events of those days of John's funeral and buriel I feel will always be with me. I miss John and wish he was here. But I feel honored to have been blessed with the contact so brief in which the rivers of our lives crossed.
Glint
- Saturday, September 01, 2001 at 21:03:02 (EDT)

My two cents are: did the same with mine virgil, good to know you're well. Peace.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 01, 2001 at 14:53:37 (EDT)

My two cents are: Take a pill Glint, take two. You're making it too damn easy. Before you know it, some fag from San Fransico will be calling you "Montalvo" and making you wear a blue dress next to the lectern.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 01, 2001 at 14:52:21 (EDT)

My two cents are: I havent been here in a long time. Just checking in to see who is still here. I got my refund check this week and I have decided to save it just to piss Bush off. The guy is an idiot.
Virgil <[email protected]>
Crestline, CA United States - Saturday, September 01, 2001 at 13:06:31 (EDT)

My two cents are: Racism? Check the pickle jar, I'm almost positive Ydog said the old woman with the statue fetish was black. <> As far as nostalgia goes, yes, perhaps it is nostalgic. I've never met anyone whose grand pappy plowed his fields with no Kubota jap job. Of course most of the compact utility tractors now are imports from Japan, such as the Ford-New Hollands are. As I recall the John Deere's engine is imported from Japan. However, it was assembled in the good old USA in Wisconsin. As far as air filters go, there are two -- an outer primary and an inner secondary. There's also an idiot light that tells when the primary needs to be replaced. Except that it's not an idiot light, it's a pop-up pin in the engine just like one of those thermometers on a ButterBall turkey. If the thing never pops up then (1) the filter needs replaced after 500 hours, or (2) the popper-upper is busted. I've seen enough failed turkey timers in my life to always double check the filter by taking off the cover and having a look inside. It's not too dusty here. The secondary filter is as clear as the day it was new. It's replacement schedule with every 3rd primary filter. <≫ The Rustoleum idea is interesting. Blades are going to need sharpened too at the end of the season.
Glint
- Saturday, September 01, 2001 at 08:41:17 (EDT)

My two cents are: http://members.boardhost.com/americanpolitic/msg/88.html
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 01, 2001 at 08:33:29 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 01, 2001 at 08:21:09 (EDT)

My two cents are: And for god's sake, spray some wd40 or put a few drops of machine oil in the ignition switch.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 01, 2001 at 08:21:06 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 01, 2001 at 08:20:03 (EDT)

My two cents are: And for god's sake, spray some wd40 or put a few drops of machine oil in the ignition switch.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 01, 2001 at 08:19:59 (EDT)

My two cents are: Is the racism intentional or does it just come naturally Glint?
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 01, 2001 at 08:16:34 (EDT)

My two cents are: Holy COW! Here's the lifelong Democrat Gore mole who's on her way to jail. She even looks rodent like. http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20010831/capt.999274058debate_tape_at103.jpg <> At least Linda never went to jail and her actions netted results too. Clinton: the only 20th century president to get impeached.
Glint
- Saturday, September 01, 2001 at 08:13:25 (EDT)

My two cents are: Now the Kubota is really the top of the line, but I can understand the nostalgia for a John Deere. Some people found the Edsel attractive.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 01, 2001 at 08:11:58 (EDT)

My two cents are: What you need to do there Glint is pull that deck off and paint the underside with rustoleum. Trust me on this one, it's the first thing to go. Rust never sleeps. an inline fuel filter and a new spark plug would also seem to be in order. Trust you also cleaned the air filter but just forgot to mention it. Jeez, do I have to raise you?
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 01, 2001 at 08:09:13 (EDT)

My two cents are: Got the engine oil and oil filter changed on the John Deere. Greased all the points on the tractor, front end loader, and mowing deck. Checked fluids in the 4WD axels, hydraulics, battery, coolant tank, andthe fuel sediment bowl. Almost ready to roll for the next 100 engine hours. <> Looked last night during a twilight thunderstorm. One of the Mrs.' flowerbeds is a "memorial" for her mother, featuring one of those little concrete Cupid statue bird baths. Sure enough,just like Mrs. Ydog's poor old black granny used to say, that little Cupid rascal was just bawling its little eyes out in the rain.
Glint
- Saturday, September 01, 2001 at 07:59:32 (EDT)

My two cents are: I like the way Stupid Boy George pulled the rug out from under the economy.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 01, 2001 at 06:53:48 (EDT)

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