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My two cents are: Ydog?
Harlan St. Wolf
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 16:31:29 (EST)

My two cents are: Tail between his legs?
doubt it
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 16:12:26 (EST)

My two cents are: Good thing Ydog left with his tail between his legs. Would hate to have him here gloating today. A little silver lining on today's otherwise rain laden cloud.
Glint
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 16:07:02 (EST)

My two cents are: The bodacious Mrs. just came in with the haul from the mailbox. Said the state has resumed shooting checks into it. That's great because they are getting shuffled in with the outstanding checks still arriving from the last gig.
Glint
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 15:52:38 (EST)

My two cents are: Damn cheese eaters!
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 15:52:25 (EST)

My two cents are: "How am I doing here, Glint?" - HoM. Don't worry, your effort is very...special. Pascal sort of petered out. Mainly because it lacked the features of an object oriented language and didn't scale well. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed Pascal ever since first using it in the 1970's. Borland's version was the first compiler for the PC that came in under $100 back in about 1985 or so. I wrote a lot of programs with it for doing things like figuring out when a given comet will culminate or finding out when the moon goes down and its safe to go outside and detour by the fence on the way to the round room. Language was developed by Niklaus Wirth. Pretty good effort for a cheese eater; I always like those "railroad track" syntax diagrams. Or Maybe that part was created by Dijkstra. Anyway, it was pretty cool way to represent a syntax in a universal and unambiguous way. As the cheese eater would say, it was "Elegant" however it was far from industrial strength. The only Basic I ever did was on an Atari 400. Don't laugh, it was fully loaded with the full 15K.
Glint
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 15:31:31 (EST)

My two cents are: Sounds like you need a little nation-building, Gul. Send your name to the State Department and they will forward the appropriate forms.
Ari
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 15:10:22 (EST)

My two cents are: We Afghan warlords need no vile western infidel nanny-state guideliness. Rules, laws, regs are, how you say, pussy. Pah. Get out of my poppy patch or I will (future tense) blow your fkrqurti head off, i'nshallah.
Gul Bahadar Libertarian Front
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 15:02:46 (EST)

My two cents are: I recall shadows on the cave walls. He harbored under the delusion that the light of day was only experienced by himself. Calico cats are primarily female. That's probably why Ashcroft is afraid of them, probably sees them as female devils.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 14:59:50 (EST)

My two cents are: I remember that he used to call everyone else liars, and say that they were stupid. And he thought of Democrats or anyone to the left of Manuel Noriega as a socialist. Also he had issues about his credentials, and he didn't know much about anything. But it all sort of fades away. Foop.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 14:57:08 (EST)

My two cents are: It's true about Pete. The man was mostly a compendium of unique quirks and verbal tics, which should be fairly easy to remember, but most of them slip my mind, too. I guess there just wasn't any there there, and the tic seemed more noticeable than they really were, because that's all there was.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 14:53:49 (EST)

My two cents are: What IS a calico cat? What is calico itself? Some kind of cloth, I know, but what is it like and why is a cat named after it?
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- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 14:49:45 (EST)

My two cents are: I'm a little surprised that I have pretty much forgotten how to parody Pete. About the only thing I remember is doink, and that only came into play in his last few months, after he returned from being admired by his guides. Who would have thought the creep would have so little lasting impact? I mean, MK is still easy, as the dork has just demonstrated, but the Pete persona has pretty much slipped though the memory-banks already.
House of Meat
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 14:47:37 (EST)

My two cents are: Research on cats?
doubt it
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 14:44:31 (EST)

My two cents are: Ashcroft is the nation's chief law enforcement officer. Yet he has never sent jack-booted thugs at midnight to kidnap a child from the arms of a hanger-on at the house of his distant relatives. Instead he has dealt with scofflaws... the state of Oregon, for example, and its electorate. The supreme policeman of the world is Officer C. Powell, who walks the beat vicariously through his henchman, Snippy. This is all very confusing, I understand. Learn to live with it, socialist traitors.
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- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 14:44:20 (EST)

My two cents are: To his credit, Ashcroft is in favor of using calico cats for product and medical research.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 14:43:53 (EST)

My two cents are: General Ashcroft is the supreme policeman of the world who will attempt to require all citizens of this country play by his rulebook. This rulebook includes certain kinds of medical research and choices of how an individual will deal with a terminal illness.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 14:34:17 (EST)

My two cents are: I'm thinking about giving cat ownership another shot. You can always bring them back if they become annoying.
guess who
Waco, TX - Friday, November 30, 2001 at 14:26:27 (EST)

My two cents are: I ask for nothing except what I'm entitled to.
guess who
Waco , TX - Friday, November 30, 2001 at 14:23:23 (EST)

My two cents are: Okay, I lied. I never had a job or a girlfriend. I weigh 362 pounds and suffer from a plague of boils. I also have chronic fatigue syndrome. My mom pays my rent.
guess who
Waco, TX - Friday, November 30, 2001 at 14:19:34 (EST)

My two cents are: Anyway, the good news is that Kabul has become a model of a true libertarian society. No government, no rules, just regular folks working out things without the "help" of the nanny-state.
guess who
Waco, TX - Friday, November 30, 2001 at 14:16:19 (EST)

My two cents are: I thought it was because it was a bullet. And, don't we now hold ALL major cities in Afghanistan, traitor? What more is there? The mountains? Hell, all that's up there are thousands of kooks with weapons. Geesh!
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 14:14:29 (EST)

My two cents are: Look, Ann's blunder is not that the Russians lost, but that she thinks we have won. Our boys hold no more than the Russians held, which is to say all that anyone ever holds in Afghanistan. Ann Coulter is just a dork. Her every thought reveals a weak and ignorant mind. Of course she is going to get it all wrong. This is a chick who thinks that they deprived her of her bullet charm because it was such a wonderful item, a chick so benighted as to not realize that she is treated like a snot because she is a snot. Get over it.
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- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 14:10:56 (EST)

My two cents are: Boy, who would've ever figured Ashcroft for a guy who would show such disdain for civil rights? Caught me by surprise.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 14:10:05 (EST)

My two cents are: You gotta wonder about Ann Coulter and this parenthetical slam at the Russkies being paper tigers. As I recall, the Russkies took over Afghanistan and had to fight off the Bush-supplied mujahadi'n that included the ones we now call the Taliban, as well as the ones we now call the Northern Alliance and every other raghead native, plus the foreign ones like Osama bin Laden and some crazy Egyptians. It's not like the Russkies could ask the Northern Alliance to go in and have their body parts chopped up while Gorby bombed children and Red Cross warehouses in support. Get real, Ann! Let's roll.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 13:43:17 (EST)

My two cents are: Well, if you're yacking about me, damn right I was there. Not for long last night, just a 5 or 6 post cameo, but I was there eating the potato(e) salad and squishing the ant.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 13:38:16 (EST)

My two cents are: There's been a virtual picnic the last couple of nights during your usual hours, and I'm not sure I noticed you there. Maybe you stayed mostly behind the shrubbery, because to tell you the truth these were more flesh-shredding Korybantic rituals than picnics. A lot of old-timers showed up, sunshine patriots and summer soldiers who didn't stick this out the way you did. They seemed to settle in like squatters in the newly-hosed-out Palace of the Czar of France. They strung their hammocks from tree to falling tree and lay there like giant slugs, enjoying the security that bolder persons cut out of raw chaos for them. No, we shouldn't hate them. We should welcome them, because they are persons of good will who momentarily could not damn the twerpedos. Let them stay as they will. Make merry while the pineapple is still out of the can.
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- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 13:35:37 (EST)

My two cents are: With a swarm of meat bees, I think you'd want to give each bee a tendency to stay close to his fellow bees once he knew they were there, and a tendency to stay a minimum distance away. The closeness tendency would keep the bees in a swarm, and the minimum distance would keep them from bumping into one another. And if the swarm whiplashes, say, and a few bees peel off the back end, they would have a chance to get back into the swarm, behaving exactly or at least a lot like an actual swarm. You might program a lost bee to head back to where he was lost, or to head toward where the swarm was headed when it was lost, and maybe go into a search pattern. A new swarm of lost bees might form, and search for meat, and join the first swarm at a meat object. We could give each bee a digestive tract and growth characteristics in response to success at finding meat, and investigate whether a high-flying bee or a low-flying bee is more successful, under various future weather patterns. You could really get into this meet-bee flying height problem with a little SWARM programming.
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- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 13:28:58 (EST)

My two cents are: Interesting, if that's the part I showed up for.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 13:24:46 (EST)

My two cents are: 9:00 a.m. is ten or twelve hours early for the person I'm thinking of to be posting. If you are not the person I am thinking of, let me express my deepest humble regrets to have accused you of slug-a-beddism. Maybe it is late for you, if you are not the person I am thinking of. I have no way of judging. Although in the best tradition of this site I reserve the right to judge anyway. Socialsit demonrat traitorous idiot.
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- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 13:18:28 (EST)

My two cents are: 9:00 is early??
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 13:08:05 (EST)

My two cents are: For instance, you can make each meat-bee an object, and give them behavior rules, and watch what the swarm does. You can monitor this graphically, say watching the swarm as a bunch of dots in a virtual space. You could make them fly close to the ground is response to certain stimuli, or fly up to the stratosphere in response to others. You could drop meat objects on the virtual space, and assign properties to them, such as smellowness or visual characteristic that were attractive to certain bees. Html tags ain't in it.
House of Meat
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 12:54:20 (EST)

My two cents are: What are you doing up so early?
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- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 12:49:03 (EST)

My two cents are: We humans are a funny bunch. We write the script and then seem surprised when someone shows up for the part.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 12:45:21 (EST)

My two cents are: Of course, you can tell I ain't no power user. My programming goes through these dudes that have a C-based language called SWARM, that is good for dealing with swarms of things, for instance meat-bees. Thanks for the reminder, because I really ought to call the people slated to work on that project and explain that the money might come some day.
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- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 12:38:37 (EST)

My two cents are: Another thing I dislike having to deal with is Excel. Everybody is sending Excel files that you have to open and deal with, which is like cutting off nine of your fingers, because I can't seem to find a way to run it without constant resort to the mouse. Spent about half an hour trying to make a simple XY graph out of a couple of XL columns yesterday, and just couldn't find a way to specify that one of them should be X instead of both of them being Y's. There has to be a simple way, but the thing is so counter-intuitive that I can't find it no way. Microsoft, man, they force you into their little blind box and don't want you to wriggle out.
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- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 12:31:26 (EST)

My two cents are: I mean, geesh, what's with all this DLL crap and non-native overlay? This Gates character, the osmosis I process is that cleaning up BASIC a little is all that Gates ever really did on the technical side, or at least the first thing he did, and he couldn't get over it. Visual Basic is like a back-pack that is heavier than the stuff inside it. Plus it is so-o Windows�.
House of Meat
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 12:24:47 (EST)

My two cents are: My recollection is that Cobol was primarily for business applications. Went for Pascal myself, because you could easily program in English, make actual poetry out of your sub-routines. I still feel that Delphi and hence any remainder of Pascal is and has been slated specificially for destruction by Bill Gates personally, even though it seems to my ignorant eye to be far ahead of Visual Basic, or Oracle if that is your trajectory. How am I doing here, Glint?
House of Meat
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 12:20:29 (EST)

My two cents are: Cobol? Get real. In the past the language used determined which industry bowl one swished around in. Cobol for frat rats and sorority girls, Algol-like languages for geeks, and Fortran and assembler for the pocket protector crowd. However it is interesting how the world has come around to embrace certain borg-like languages such as Java and C++. It enables one to seamlessly slip out of one cess poll and slide into another.
Glint
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 11:52:26 (EST)

My two cents are: Must.....save...the...braaaaaaaaaaaaain!
George
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 11:31:06 (EST)

My two cents are: See, the dude down there did it! "You do have cards to handout don't you?" See what the deal is? Hand out your cards is correctly nounized as a handout. Then you take "handout" and verbize it, rather than just throwing yourself into reverse and backing up to the start, which was verbally just fine. See, it's like the infamous mirrors in the barber-shop and could go on forever, maybe, although God knows how. Dammit, don't loop these things, keep it simple. As the great journalist Ernest Hemingway once said, "all out words, through loose use, have lost their meaning." The word "all", for example.
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- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 11:01:01 (EST)

My two cents are: Whatever happens, Meat, I hope it happens soon. I want to get this goddamn flag off my antenna. The goddamn think sounds like a buzz-saw at anything over 45. Maybe it's OK if you drive a Lexus, but I don't. Let's sweep these guys up and either shoot them or brainwash them into Christianity and send them out to preach on the streets of Dallas. We've got to move on and do something about these corporate taxes that are killing the economy, and get more of these lazy nappy-skulls off the government dime.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 10:41:31 (EST)

My two cents are: And, as for this bleeding heart pinko who wants to spare Osama his 72 vegans, get real, Harry. Any way you cut it the man is martyred, but the Arab world understands a dead martyr a lot more clearly than a living martyr. The last guys who bombed the World Trade Center are in jail somewhere west of Peoria, and that worked out really well, didn't it? No, we've got to be culturally sensitive here and give the man the appropriate scimitar lopping. As for closing him up in a cave in secret, that's exactly what's wrong with the tribunal idea, the secrecy. Where is the due process in locking him up in a cave without even a chance to explain himself to three military pugs? Is the Afghan in the street going to allow us to stay in the 'Stan and guard him for the next forty years? Praxis, praxis, praxis is the name of this game. It's ugly because whatever happens we're assuming guilt a priori, as a paralegal might say, a real one. But I don't want this guy brought to the states, he'll draw fire. I don't want him sent to the Hague or anywhere that Kofi Annan gets a chance to fuck everything up. I don't want him bringing more shame on the institution of the Supreme Court, that outfit is hanging by a thread. The military knows how to run a court-martial. The man gets representation and there's not screwing around with potassium drips, no bastardizations of the Hippocratic oath, thus no lying under oath by good Americans. Let's roll.
House of Meat
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 10:34:25 (EST)

My two cents are: Glint's going to be OK. He lives in a town where a security guard can work himself up to twenty bones per if he's willing to work the high-school games.
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- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 10:22:08 (EST)

My two cents are: well gourdy in retrospect, that advice is probably outdated. If the headhunters can't help you you probably need to up your travel availbility. That should solve it. Just think of yourself as a migrant worker.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 09:45:29 (EST)

My two cents are: The military tribunal could just as well shut him up in a cave as whack him, could it not? The problem with killing him is of course that it makes him a martyr, as he has devoutly wished, and gets him his 72 virgins (or however you translate it - - some people have suggested that one gets 72 somethings elses - - 72 vagrants? 72 vegans? Say, is there an Arabic language punster on this bus?). It would be good to send him into a long life of boredom and obscurity, life in prisoncave without publicity, doing something useful like knitting burqas or sorting camel dung. I don't know. Maybe just offer the traditional a cup of hemlock. Don't think he'd just fall on his sword.
borg 4 or 5 of 22
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 09:31:05 (EST)

My two cents are: The other 20 Beatles still live on.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 09:30:46 (EST)

My two cents are: Yeah, bummer. On the bright side those cancer hostpitals have received a windfall of cash from his desperate attempts to save his brain.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 09:23:23 (EST)

My two cents are: Goodbye, George.
Boomer
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 09:18:20 (EST)

My two cents are: "Sorry Mr. Marietta, I need a job, but I'm really holding out for something more aligned with aerospace, sure i can write cobol till the cows come home but I'd need at least 80k" etc. Then turn to the guy next to you and say, "gee job searching in this town - strike up a conversation etc. You do have cards to handout don't you? get some printed up. etc......Now, you also need to do this riding the metro downtown. Haul your pug ass to germantown and get on the rail. Work the cars, work the downtown lines.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 08:15:05 (EST)

My two cents are: you'll want to have a current copy of the federal register and government technology magazine under your arm or displayed appropriately. A tennis racket or gym bag would also help. What you do is schedule your happy hour rounds, no more than 30-45 minutes each. Buy a healthy drink, a juice or something. Now, here's the real tip, make fake phone calls on your cell about jobs so others can overhear them, basically verbalize your resume as follows "Sorry mr. lockheed, I just can't negotiate on my terms for this project, I've got a line of offers I'm considering" you get the point.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 08:09:04 (EST)

My two cents are: Next, lose the beard and a few pounds. Joining a fashionable bethesda gym would be a good move here. I know finances are probably tight, so do a short contract or a pay as you go, sometimes there are free trials and you could abuse several of them. Next it's on to canvassing the free happy hours at the crystal city hotels.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 08:02:45 (EST)

My two cents are: geez gourdy, I hope you weren't really expecting a job out of that swaree at the Hilton. Maybe it was just something to list as job search for the weekly check. Anyway, since you seem to have failed at networking it seems like you need a few pointers on finding a job in D.C. First, bury your political hatchet. You're going to need to be apolitical on this one, nobody is going to hire a guy wearing a cigar suit.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 07:58:15 (EST)

My two cents are: Yeah, the gourd really was one of the 22, except like you said, he never knew it. Everything else was just misplaced rage about not having the guts to fill the minivan with the pungent wafts of enticing and promised brasilian musk. Enough to make a guy wander the moonlit moors with a jar of urine singing "Ten Little Indians".
Borg 17 of 22
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 07:41:09 (EST)

My two cents are: Once again, "should pinch" is not an example of the future tense. But two out of three ain't bad for a non-liberal-arts guy. An easy way to figure these things out, something that even an engineer can do, is think about when the described action happens, and also if the action happens. The will and shall actions happen in the future, ergo future tense. The should action happens under certain conditions, hence conditional tense. One can get fanicier, for example, "he will have pinched" is the future perfect, "he would have pinched" is a conditional perfect. Remember, the conditionals don't necessarily happen, for example, "if the loaf had been larger, he would have pinched it earlier." None of this is specified as definitely occurring, but "the loaf is large, so he will have pinched it by this evening" specifies a definite action. Think about it. The English language is a marvelous tool, and it deserves our care and respect. You are all vile virtueless Demonrat liars. The picnic is over. Pete� is dead, long live (subjunctive) what he stood for. In the end, he will not have chickened out (future perfect with prepositional adverb (post-postion)) in vain. Memorizing tenses is just as fulfilling as memorizing stars, and doesn't require whining about the neighbors' mercury lights. Let's roll.
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- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 03:40:02 (EST)

My two cents are: of course it should be added that the only way to use the word 'pinch' is to describe a future disgusting act.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 01:55:51 (EST)

My two cents are: "should pinch" "will pinch" or "shall pinch."
three fine examples of future tensing of the 'p' word
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 01:54:04 (EST)

My two cents are: "Read his lips. He's done quit. name the noun that describes this act - - starts with L - Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 23:48:54 (EST)"
L i b e r a l ?
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 01:49:57 (EST)

My two cents are: So what? It's just their way of compensating for not having a hot stove burner to touch when told not to.
Princess Died
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 01:43:24 (EST)

My two cents are: Appears some of the Afghanistan saplings are also being leveled when they pick up remnants of our cluster bombs.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 00:55:26 (EST)

My two cents are: And the jail-him-in-the-cave plan ain't bad. It is exactly what we're trying to do with the bombs. The idea is to figure out where he is, then bomb the shit out of it, close it off. They'd have to install sophisticated listening devices, like those things you listen to earthquakes with, to make sure he didn't dig his way out, because this guy knows a lot about digging. But basically what you're trying to do is seal him off like Indian Joe or those guys in the Bee Gees song, and let him croak. He might be croaked already that way, and we'll have to open everything up eventually and ID the body count; but I suspect that his has scarpered the country and is in some place like Somalia right now, where we figured nation-building was a bad investment.
House of Meat
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 00:39:01 (EST)

My two cents are: Exactly. My position is that this Osama character has stepped over the line. It's unfortunate that the Republican party is trying to profit from the resultant situation, but we'll just have to deal with that. In the meantime, the best thing to do with Osama and his friends is to kill them. There is nothing to gain by giving the guy a trial and letting him spout. The alternative would be to let him appeal up to the Supreme Court, which has already disgraced itself, and doesn't have the heart or the humanistic principles of any three officers picked out of the middle ranks of the American military. These guys are sworn to uphold the Consitution and the country, and there is less chance of their procedure becoming a kangaroo court than a Rhenquist-Scalia hearing. These are peculiar times, and we really do have to play some of this stuff by ear or we will be up shit creek. The tribunal for Osama, if we are unfortunate enough to catch him alive, is the only feasible option.
House of Meat
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 00:30:23 (EST)

My two cents are: One tree or clear-cut?
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 00:27:45 (EST)

My two cents are: So, what you are advocating, Meathead, is don't let's get hysterical about Snippy's darker puppet-masters when they think up something slick and harmless and deals with a real problem? You're saying that it's a good idea to have the procedure in place to bump this guy off if he turns himself in, or at least that it's a good idea to let him know that turning himself in isn't going to work? Good thinking, Meat. I, for one, agree. I think we can trust Snippy's liberal instincts on this one.
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- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 00:20:29 (EST)

My two cents are: I sympathize with your bafflement, Wondering. These are baffling times, which is why I have returned from retirement to help work through them. The tribunals are more than window-dressing. Look at this praxistically. You can't just order every American soldier to shoot any tall guy he captures who has a long beard and a hat that looks like a toilet-paper roll, and assume that your bases are covered. What you have to do is bring them all in and sort them out, and if you find bin Laden then have a specific identification procedure, a low-key ceremony, and then shoot him. This is analogous to sniffing the cork, and pouring a little into the host's glass before filling the other people's glasses, then filling the host glass. The host doesn't have to go the whole nine yards and taste that first pouring, but it has to be poured. If somebody makes a positive I.D., in a private place, then sure, they will gun him down out of sight and say he was resisting arrest. But if we get into a lot of random shooting of tall greybeards with funny hats, it won't look good and it won't be good. No, the tribunals are a good way to go. There should sure as shit be a sunset provision that kicks in as soon as Osama is dead, though. Praxis, man. It's as the BLM says in the legal document somebody posted yesterday: don't fall the wrong tree. Not in public, anyway.
House of Meat
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 00:12:41 (EST)

My two cents are: Sad, really, that Ann hasn't yet met MK, as they are both so dedicated against central authority that they would be loathe to stand behind elementary school crossing guards.
unless they were actually trying to cross a street, in which case the rules of engagement would change to suit them
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 00:10:16 (EST)

My two cents are: In the meantime, I will reveal my plot for the divine Osama, which is to suss out his cave, or cave area, then delineate a security boundary around it, maintain same, declaring him to be now imprisoned, and thus causing him to be so. Automatically. Endlessly. A generous amount of loss of face, but no tribunals, and no martyrdom. Any takers?
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 30, 2001 at 00:04:51 (EST)

My two cents are: Please take note of Ms. Coulter's closing sentence, where she says that Ashcroft, after cancelling his breast reduction surgery to testify, should tell Congress that they are not immune to being dragged before the tribunals, especially if they take away from the time he spends defending America against terrorism. This is pretty close to treason, isn't it, threatening the Congress with the firing squad for attempting to inform themselves on the need for legislation? I wish there were a paralegal around who could explain the legalities.
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- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 23:59:28 (EST)

My two cents are: Thank god for you, house of meat, for telling the truth about tenses. I just couldn't do it. So it goes. But, briefly seriously, meat, isn't the military tribunal the moral equivalent of putting a frilly paper floogie on the rib end of a nicely cooked pork chop? Just giving the imprimatur to the same act as the guy on the street who just blasts his enemy to kingdom come (sic)? I mean, who needs imprimaturs? Really. Why the pomp and circumstance?
Wondering
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 23:58:16 (EST)

My two cents are: I explained before, the tribunals are to be able to legally whack bin Laden if we are unfortunate enough to catch him alive. We need this because we do not want to drag his sorry ass here and have him spout his stuff in open court like Jerry Rubin. The real threat is from the many measures in the Patriot Act. Forget about the tribunals, the tribunals are OK with me and should be OK with you. I will also fill in here for the public schools and clue Glint in to the fact that "should pinch" is not the future tense. That would be "will pinch" or "shall pinch." "Should pinch" would be something like an imperative conditional tense. The straight conditional would be "could pinch" or "would pinch." I notice that there are a lot more conditional tenses in English than in other familiar languages, another reason why we should not hang our heads in shame before the Frog. But, as Pete used to say, you are all liberal cowards. That's it. I quit. Forever. Learn to live with it.
House of Meat
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 23:53:32 (EST)

My two cents are: Liar? Loser? Liability? Limbaughnoid? Laughable (oops, not a noun.)
no doubt
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 23:53:03 (EST)

My two cents are: The hell with it. War's over. Let's get back to the $127 billion dollar surplus that became a frickin' $127 billion dollar deficit in, um, how long was it? Like, um, eight months? Awesome. WOO-HOO. SPEND that cash, Reichboys, SPEND it.
the inner ann
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 23:52:58 (EST)

My two cents are: Read his lips. He's done quit.
name the noun that describes this act - - starts with L
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 23:48:54 (EST)

My two cents are: Let's see. Colorado. A coward. Wife. Kids. Sounds like a Republican. Sounds like Pete.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 23:45:16 (EST)

My two cents are: Wuss.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 23:44:24 (EST)

My two cents are: Had a conversation with a person who was on a flight out of Colorado. Just before plane takes off this guy jumps up and yells, "Stop, stop, I can't do this. Let me off this plane. I have a wife and kids and I just can't do it." Instead maybe he took a bus, maybe he hitched a ride and is laying by the side of the road somewhere out in the boonies.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 23:39:39 (EST)

My two cents are: Upcoming test to see if an interceptor rocket can shoot down a mock warhead that's traveling through space. If successful maybe next thing on the agenda will be dealing with airplanes and rowboats being used as lethal weapons.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 23:22:44 (EST)

My two cents are: It's called due process. You give 'em a fair trial then string 'em up.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 23:02:59 (EST)

My two cents are: Time for the picnic to move on to a critique of SnippyKennedy's declaration that he alone can make the call about military tribunals oops excuse me let's spin that military commissions, makes it sound just a little less than the Court of Star Chamber. But what's with tribunals anyhow? Why is it better to convene a kangaroo court and get its blessing to shoot a guy than it is to just go up in the first place and put a bullet through his head? Aren't we just gilding the lily here?
Wondering
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 22:29:57 (EST)

My two cents are: Who's going to explain about verb tenses to the gourd? Never mind. The public school system so sucks.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 22:26:37 (EST)

My two cents are: Fecal Master Glint's critique of Islam consists in apparent unhappiness with their prayer posture. Really something to think about. Or, to toss gerunds, thinking about his critique really makes one - - - wonder why he thought that thought was worth the posting.
Borg 4 or 5 of 22
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 22:24:33 (EST)

My two cents are: All are favorites whether the rear is in the air or the head is bowed towards the chest.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 22:19:25 (EST)

My two cents are: He bitched mostly at the H[ench]-men.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 22:10:38 (EST)

My two cents are: John never could quite figure out that this board has always been controlled by the Group of 22. Half those retchies he bitched about were created by the Group's fertile minds. The other half, except for Glint, were either real idiots or someone else's joke. Glint was and is on of the 22. He just doesn't know it.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 22:06:38 (EST)

My two cents are: My two cents are: Well,welcome back YD. I really don't know why anyone would want to come back here with the rabid retchies from freep here.......John� J G'nite - Sunday, October 22, 2000 at 22:45:45 (EDT)

- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 21:53:07 (EST)

My two cents are: God?
doubt it
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 21:48:09 (EST)

My two cents are: Not only washing the feet in the sink, but washing the feet in the sink with the socks on. And not sandals either. Leather shoes and suits and blazers. It seemed weird, but not as weird as when they get down on their prayer rugs and point their asses skyward. No wonder God is letting them lose.
Glint
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 21:45:27 (EST)

My two cents are: "commonly associated". at least that was accurate. look out for wobbling canteloupes. You may need a telescope.
Borg 5 of 22
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 21:45:02 (EST)

My two cents are: Future tense?
doubt it
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 21:40:21 (EST)

My two cents are: Perhaps a job in the jism industry.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 21:39:21 (EST)

My two cents are: I think that I've just successfully scuttled the Ydog theory at 22:49:54, namely the fiction that "we don't have a future tense for our verbs." And I did it with the verb commonly associated on this page with the loaf. Pinch is a verb with future tense. It *is* the future tense of the verb, as in "you should pinch another loaf on my prayer rug." The present tense of course is pinching, "look, the banker's dog is pinching a loaf in front of the butcher shop." While the past tense naturally is pinched, "who pinched a loaf in my Quran and slammed the cover shut?"
Glint <QED>
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 21:39:10 (EST)

My two cents are: Get a job, hippy!
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 21:38:15 (EST)

My two cents are: So there were repated spoodge bumpings in the middle eastern sinks? This too rich. Some turnip rube believes that everytime he went into a third world desert bathroom and got pearly white "soap" all over his trousers it was from the men "washing" their feet? How many men did you see with their feet in the sink spoodge boy? A line of them patiently pulling off their sandles and waiting to dip their tarsals into the water? Geez, you were gangbanged with it. Probably still have the trousers as well don't you?
Borg 2 of 22
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 21:38:06 (EST)

My two cents are: Went to a job fair today. Sounded good, venue at the Hilton, refreshments would be served. It was in a small ballroom -- not even a ballroom more of a largish reception area with a low 10 foot ceiling. The "refreshments" were pitchers of ice water and a punch bowl of rancid red sugar water. There were only 5 companies and a couple of colleges. Several hundred people standing in long lines at the companies in the cramped little room. None seemed to give a toot about the colleges there hawking MBA programs. I could tell times are getting tough, I only picked up one coffee cup, two pens, and a key chain.
Glint
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 21:27:58 (EST)

My two cents are: "Democrats are channeling their frustration with America's imminent military victory" ?? This lady has a problem.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 21:27:39 (EST)

My two cents are: What's the futue tense of "pinch?" As in to pinch a loaf versus am pinching that loaf verses having pinched said loaf?
Glint
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 21:22:37 (EST)

My two cents are: O.K. change that "loafs" to "loaves." Don't want to start Word War II on the heels of the fall (or is was it fell?) of WW1.
Glint
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 21:20:55 (EST)

My two cents are: I saw the bankers dog the night before last when driving through the historic old town. It was being walked by the head of the Town Tree Committee. Good idea, letting it pinch its loafs under cover of darkness.
Glint
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 21:18:39 (EST)

My two cents are: Baltimore may be like a 3rd world country in some ways, particularly among the inner ring surrounding the downtown district, but the liquid soap was not pink. It was a white with a pearly texture. I must admit that each time it happend there was a temptation to pinch a loaf and roll it up in one of their prayer rugs.
Glint
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 21:11:18 (EST)

My two cents are: I wonder if we had spent the same money and effort in investigating bin Laden that we did on investigating a presidential blow job if we'd be where we are today. Thanks Ken Starr. Some of us might be wonking a bankers dog.
Borg 7 of 22
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 21:09:32 (EST)

My two cents are: Resistance is the essence of ecstacy
Marquis de Borg
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 21:06:39 (EST)

My two cents are: ok, i read the first few lines. enough to know it was a divisive partisan piece in a time when we should be looking beyond that. Regardless of whats happening, she's fueling the very partisanship that forced us to focus on Clintons penis instead of bin laden's. The myopia of republican hatred. Poison their own well to keep the dems from drinking. That's what gave him the edge. I think she's a fine example. Proably wishes she could afford to live in Carroll County and take care of a bankers incontinent neurotic dog. Thanks for pointing her out.
Borg 2 of 22
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 21:03:22 (EST)

My two cents are: That's not snow your cock's dusted with. It's mange.
resistance is futile
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 21:02:33 (EST)

My two cents are: She sounds a bit anti Congress. What, they're all analog while the President is the digital one, the pulse of the nation?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 20:59:44 (EST)

My two cents are: Reading Coulter seems like listening to Rush or Dr. Laura, I may try it. I have to listen to the right wing am radio to get morning traffic, that's enough. other pushbutton set to npr. If the picnic's really over maybe later we can take the crynic on a snipe hunt, that's about all we're missing. If the sap was around, I'm sure he kept his head low. Crynic never was one for fastball. A slow fat pitch wobbling out of the sun like an Indiana canteloupe until it became a huge black no-miss target was about all he could ever steele himself to take a swing at.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 20:55:11 (EST)

My two cents are: I agree about the cut and pastes. Nevertheless, this is Coulter we're talking about and she's always worth reading, if for no other reasons, the huge leaps and the "woman on the edge" hype. She never really disappoints. Today, she outdoes herself by losing it all in a parenthetical throw-away. "(Incidentally, this ought to prove once and for all what a bunch of paper tigers the Russians are. What were they doing over there for 10 years? It hasn't taken us 10 weeks.)" If Ann would eat a meal every once in awhile, maybe her brain would function kind of normally. But, here's the deal. The Russians were there for 10 years trying to take over and keep the fucking country. Sending in troops to foolishly engage in guerilla warfare with fundamentalist Muslims who had been armed to the teeth by the elected George Bush.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 20:42:45 (EST)

My two cents are: Picnic seems to be over, just roasting marshmellows now.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 20:31:16 (EST)

My two cents are: I mean look Breightly, the thing to do is admit the soap was spoodge. That you didn't know. Sure it's not the most flattering thing to admit. Then we might quit bringing it up. There was really bar soap in there anyway wasn't there? I mean you think we believe there was one of those little pump dispensers with the fragrant pink crap in it over there in a waterless third world country? Spoodge boy.
Borg 2 of 22
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 20:30:22 (EST)

My two cents are: You know, years ago I noticed that whenever you toast one or two of these cat turds here they pull a few yards of cut n paste.
Borg 2 of 22
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 20:25:03 (EST)

My two cents are: The masks of god. we go to great lengths to hide from ourselves. Thank god for rationalization.
Borg 3 of 22
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 20:23:18 (EST)

My two cents are: snow falling on my cedar

- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 20:22:41 (EST)

My two cents are: The Hun is at the Gate FrontPageMagazine.com| November 29, 2001 By Ann Coulter THIS WEEK'S WINNER for best comedy line about the war is New York Democratic Sen. Charles Schumer. Referring to - well, it doesn't really matter what he was referring to, but it was military tribunals - Schumer said: "To come up with the best way to do this, Congress ought to be involved." Congress came up with the Internal Revenue code, right? And the whole United States code? That's just what we need - Congress involved in emergency national security measures! Under the self-aggrandizing delusion that their input is necessary during wartime, various congressmen are trying to haul Attorney General Ashcroft before them to answer questions about the detentions and military tribunals for suspected terrorists. Democrats are channeling their frustration with America's imminent military victory in Afghanistan into hysterical opposition to reasonable national security measures at home. (Incidentally, this ought to prove once and for all what a bunch of paper tigers the Russians are. What were they doing over there for 10 years? It hasn't taken us 10 weeks.) Fortunately, Congress has no role in prosecuting this war either abroad or domestically. They are relieved of duty, free to "get back to normal," as the president has recommended - which in their case means enacting massive spending bills to fund comically useless government programs. That should make them happy. Sen. Patrick Leahy, another Democrat, has blustered that there "has been no formal declaration of war and, in the meantime, our civilian courts remain open and available to try suspected terrorists." Consequently, he said, questions are raised "about whether the president can lawfully authorize the use of military commissions to try persons arrested here." Though I am sublimely confident that the public will recognize Leahy for the sputtering fool that he is, I note that: We are at war. We have been at war since 8:48 a.m. Tuesday, Sept. 11, 2001. A precise talismanic formulation by Congress is not necessary to inform us of this fact. Wars can exist even if Congress does not declare them if, for example, thousands of civilians are slaughtered in a surprise attack on American soil. On the off chance anyone didn't know that we were at war as of 8:48 a.m. Tuesday, Sept. 11, 2001, Bush said so in his address to a joint session of Congress the week after the attack: "On September the 11th, enemies of freedom committed an act of war against our country." A formal declaration of war has certain consequences only under international law, not relevant to any domestic security measures taken under the president's war powers, such as military tribunals. Even if "international law" were relevant here - which it isn't - as the masterful United Nations has demonstrated once again during the current conflict, international law is like Santa Claus. The only difference is that Santa Claus exists only in the imaginations of small children, whereas international law also exists in law school classrooms. In the corporeal world, international law is whatever the United States and Great Britain say it is. Because we are at war, and moreover, because the president is the commander in chief, Bush had authority on Sept. 11 to give orders to shoot down the fourth plane if it had circled back toward Washington. Because we are at war, Bush had authority to bomb Afghanistan. He didn't need congressional approval for those actions any more than he needs congressional approval right now to try any suspected belligerents on U.S. soil in military tribunals. If Congress doesn't like it, the Constitution gives it two choices: It can cut off funding, or it can impeach the president. Congress controls the purse - it doesn't wage war. Knock yourselves out, boys. (Has anyone else noticed there have been no polls taken on the issue of military tribunals for terrorists?) In 1942, six months after Pearl Harbor, the Supreme Court upheld the use of military tribunals for eight German spies captured on U.S. soil, two of whom were U.S. citizens. In that case, Ex Parte Quirin, the court found that military tribunals were appropriate for suspected enemies who have "entered or after entry remained in our territory without uniform" intending to engage in an act of belligerency against the United States. (And the Huns were accused only of planning attacks on war materials - not on U.S. citizens.) The Supreme Court decided Quirin in less than 24 hours. Three days later, the military tribunal found the saboteurs guilty. Five days after that, six of the eight were executed, including Herbert Hans Haupt, a U.S. citizen. Only the two who had ratted out the plot were given prison sentences instead of death. Though Bush has ordered military tribunals only for non-citizens, the Quirin court did not exempt citizens from trial in military tribunals. "Citizenship in the United States" provides no shelter, the court held, if "unlawful belligerency is the gravamen of the offense." Citizens who associate with the enemy - "with its aid, guidance and direction" - are "enemy belligerents." The fact that the "courts are open" - the phrase absurdly invoked by Sen. Leahy - refers to the Supreme Court's decision in Ex Parte Milligan holding that military tribunals "can never be applied to citizens ... where the courts are open and their process unobstructed." Note first the use of the word "citizen" in that sentence. Note further the Supreme Court's subsequent holding in Quirin that citizens can be tried in military tribunals. Indeed, the Quirin court expressly distinguished Milligan's case from the Nazi saboteurs' case on the grounds that Milligan "was not an enemy belligerent." When Ashcroft is forced to waste his time in Senate hearings this week instead of protecting the nation from more terrorist attacks, he should remind them that there's no exemption for senators either.
slackers!
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 20:21:27 (EST)

My two cents are: I'm wearing soap on my trousers. There's so much, it's falling on my shoes.
Spoodge Boy
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 20:21:05 (EST)

My two cents are: For the service at the end, which is a full mosque, the mosk so full that actually the prayers are outside in a field somewhere nearby, with thousands of people even in a one-horse town, all the Muzz from the villages, all doing to bow toward Mecca thing, all simultaneous like a dance, because that's another nice thing about Islam, everyone prays together. Everyone has new cloth, maybe new colorful plastic sunglasses for the kids, new turbans on the men or skullcaps or whatever their choice of headgear, new bou-bous or what have you, new curly-pointed shoes, it's a hell of a joyous time, and then they feast like the beau devil, as the saying goes. I wouldn't sniff or fart about Ramadan. It's as good as a religion offers, at least where I've seen it, though of course it's modified by the culture from place to place, from my viewpoint it's pretty neat.
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- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 20:18:59 (EST)

My two cents are: Eeek! An ant! Spray it before the whole picnic goes down the tubes.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 20:16:28 (EST)

My two cents are: I fall out of chairs.
present fucking tense, Spoodge Boy!
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 20:14:27 (EST)

My two cents are: Frankly, I'm amazed that after seeing the husker would dismiss the incident and accept the explanation of the spooge (what walking around with it all over his fly) that they didn't just pants and dean the guy then and there.
Borg 19 of 22
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 20:14:01 (EST)

My two cents are: Ramadan is a time to reflect on the meanings. Then, at the end, we kill a lamb and roast that sucker up. Some folks have special food and drink during Ramadan. One I remember, amongst the Senufo, is called by a name that sounds like "jinjibah" and is super hot, like drinking Tabasco, makes me hiccup. It's a neat month of muslamics, sort of a Lent thing, only not mooning over some poor sap nailed to a cross like a frog on the dissecting tray, but thinking about one's relationship to his god and to other people and to anything else important, while possibly undergoing a little privation during the day, but nothing serious, and then having a fine group prayer and a feast at the end. Dead lamb. Yum.
House of Meat
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 20:11:50 (EST)

My two cents are: So in pissing on the picnic, I have to ask, would that be something fresh or something you've toted around at moonlight in a mason jar for awhile?
Borg 17 of 22
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 20:08:59 (EST)

My two cents are: What's that? Over there! Oh it's a boat. Looks like you missed it.
Anonymous@21:53:59
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 20:07:01 (EST)

My two cents are: If I ever fell another tree I hope it is leylandi cypree. Some guys have no class.
Borg 8 of 22
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 20:03:51 (EST)

My two cents are: Don't mean to piss on on your picnic, but did was night's rolling group grope successful in solving the fell fall falling issue? I notice the last word on the subject seems to be this: "...I'm falling out of my chair on that one" - Anonymous@21:53:59. Present tense use of the verb seems about right. Certainly sounds smarter than one who says "I'm fell out of my chair" like the guy who said "fell is the present tense" probably would have sputtered out.
Glint <QED>
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 19:57:05 (EST)

My two cents are: Nah, there's a difference here. The blue dress was a one on one affair, the trousers were gangbanged by a sinkful of swimmers. Give the man a cigar.
Borg 3 of 22
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 19:48:23 (EST)

My two cents are: In a way, he was the avant garde of the blue dress what with that messy goo all over his pants.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 19:46:30 (EST)

My two cents are: I mean think about it, ever watch a woman play with a massaging showerhead? Well, thats how your average b'hommad feels about running water when he can get it streaming over his knob after marching thru the desert for four months. Yeah, washing their feet. liquid soap. What a yutz.
Borg 7 of 22
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 19:44:58 (EST)

My two cents are: That from a guy that once wore arab spooge on his trouser front after being told it was just liquid soap.
borg 11 of 22
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 19:40:38 (EST)

My two cents are: I think it's kind of weird when some dork who buys into the Christian fairy tales, looks down his blue nose at the fairy tales of other religions.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 19:37:36 (EST)

My two cents are: Yeah, what a topsy-turvy holiday, huh? Kind of like "Good" Friday. What's so fucking good about it? Aren't all Fridays good? I mean, TGIF, man. Probably be another picnic tonight. Anybody bringing the Key Lime Pie?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 19:33:11 (EST)

My two cents are: Ramadan. Sort of sounds like rub-a-dub. Reminds me of Gore and his Dingleberry Bill.
Glint
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 19:27:47 (EST)

My two cents are: I had fun at the picnic. Of course it should have been in a cemetary. maybe it was.
borg 3 of 22
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 19:15:40 (EST)

My two cents are: Gurgle, google, doink.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 17:51:30 (EST)

My two cents are: Maybe the rser-ercet sterdiam?
dunki�
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 17:47:23 (EST)

My two cents are: Yahoo Field?
doubt it
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 17:43:03 (EST)

My two cents are: I wonder what new name they'll give Enron Field where the Astros play. Yahoo Field?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 17:30:09 (EST)

My two cents are: Either he resurrects or some evil genius just cuts-and-pastes, recycles, the boiler-plate posts. Hard to tell which.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 17:19:31 (EST)

My two cents are: Maybe so, but somehow he seems able to resurrect.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 17:08:59 (EST)

My two cents are: No, I hear Pete Died.
End of Story.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 17:04:32 (EST)

My two cents are: Oh come on, he isn't lurking. He's just out of town for a spell. As usual, before he goes, he "resigns." Then he comes back. Sad really.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 16:19:40 (EST)

My two cents are: Of course he lurks. What, do you think he found something else to do? Get real. He lurks like a colony of ants itching to fuck up a picnic.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 16:13:34 (EST)

My two cents are: He still be lurking about?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 16:07:53 (EST)

My two cents are: Sure, the best writer ecxetp for teh one whoes finegrs are fatser than his bairn.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 15:55:45 (EST)

My two cents are: Is it a coincidence that the best writer on this page also knows the most about grammar? Possibly. There can be no true test either way.
Gerald McGerund
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 15:53:36 (EST)

My two cents are: It's Gerund Man to the rescue. Fighting crimes against grammatical errors.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 15:34:41 (EST)

My two cents are: Deregulated or unregulated, end result at Enron was the same.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 15:26:10 (EST)

My two cents are: And if you folks want to really get fancy, consider the verb (verb?) "used to", as in "used to be a contender." What part of speech is that, Toto?
Captain Language Book
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 15:11:52 (EST)

My two cents are: Not only is "finding out" a gerund, it's a gerundive post-positional verb phrase.
House of Meat
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 15:08:32 (EST)

My two cents are: Improper capitalizing is seditious activity.
Evil Gerund
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 15:05:25 (EST)

My two cents are: Finding out what a gerund is will prove the first two words in this sentence are just that.
Capiche
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 15:02:38 (EST)

My two cents are: Stiffed the the Big Apple for $12 billion dollars after finding out that Bloomberg is a closet Democrat, just like Junior. Say . . . . isn't "finding out" a gerund?
Laughin Stalk
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 15:00:53 (EST)

My two cents are: Newbies without time to read the FAQ should note that the word "president", with an asterisk or without, must not be capitalized when it refers to a socialist traitor president. Thus, the Clinton or Bush II "presidencies" are not to be dignified by capitalization. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Susan P. Stilt for Harlan St. Wolf
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 14:58:13 (EST)

My two cents are: The President* lied?
duobt it�
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 14:48:42 (EST)

My two cents are: So what if the president* lied about that $20 billion for NYC? He's very popular right now.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 14:35:11 (EST)

My two cents are: De-regulation?
doubt it
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 14:33:11 (EST)

My two cents are: Right, Ann. What do these Congress critters think we elected them for? What gave them the idea we wanted them to do anything?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 14:32:44 (EST)

My two cents are: Ask Enron how well de-regulation works.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 14:32:05 (EST)

My two cents are: Next thing you know, Congress is going to want to start promulgating laws and embroiling itself in interstate commerce, telecommunications licensing, and government spending. Who do these girly-men think they are?
go Ann go
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 12:50:07 (EST)

My two cents are: Isn't Congress the outfit that shot the pumpkin? We NEED these guys, Ann.
You Little Twit-- leave war to the menfolk.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 12:46:37 (EST)

My two cents are: That's JUST what we need! Congress involved in the government!
Ann "Snort of Derision" Coulter
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 12:44:55 (EST)

My two cents are: Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
H
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 12:42:50 (EST)

My two cents are: Like a glove.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 12:39:00 (EST)

My two cents are: Another tree hugger.
fits
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 12:15:54 (EST)

My two cents are: I don't need google. My nephew is a faller and he fells the big ones. Trees, that is.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 12:09:28 (EST)

My two cents are: It is all quite obvious, once one realizes that Congress has no authority to declare war, but can only mewl and puke and enact massive spending bills to fund comically useless government programs.
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- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 11:05:43 (EST)

My two cents are: The Hun is at the Gate FrontPageMagazine.com | November 29, 2001 THIS WEEK'S WINNER for best comedy line about the war is New York Democratic Sen. Charles Schumer. Referring to - well, it doesn't really matter what he was referring to, but it was military tribunals - Schumer said: "To come up with the best way to do this, Congress ought to be involved." Congress came up with the Internal Revenue code, right? And the whole United States code? That's just what we need - Congress involved in emergency national security measures! Under the self-aggrandizing delusion that their input is necessary during wartime, various congressmen are trying to haul Attorney General Ashcroft before them to answer questions about the detentions and military tribunals for suspected terrorists. Democrats are channeling their frustration with America's imminent military victory in Afghanistan into hysterical opposition to reasonable national security measures at home. (Incidentally, this ought to prove once and for all what a bunch of paper tigers the Russians are. What were they doing over there for 10 years? It hasn't taken us 10 weeks.) Fortunately, Congress has no role in prosecuting this war either abroad or domestically. They are relieved of duty, free to "get back to normal," as the president has recommended - which in their case means enacting massive spending bills to fund comically useless government programs. That should make them happy. Sen. Patrick Leahy, another Democrat, has blustered that there "has been no formal declaration of war and, in the meantime, our civilian courts remain open and available to try suspected terrorists." Consequently, he said, questions are raised "about whether the president can lawfully authorize the use of military commissions to try persons arrested here." Though I am sublimely confident that the public will recognize Leahy for the sputtering fool that he is, I note that: We are at war. We have been at war since 8:48 a.m. Tuesday, Sept. 11, 2001. A precise talismanic formulation by Congress is not necessary to inform us of this fact. Wars can exist even if Congress does not declare them if, for example, thousands of civilians are slaughtered in a surprise attack on American soil. On the off chance anyone didn't know that we were at war as of 8:48 a.m. Tuesday, Sept. 11, 2001, Bush said so in his address to a joint session of Congress the week after the attack: "On September the 11th, enemies of freedom committed an act of war against our country." A formal declaration of war has certain consequences only under international law, not relevant to any domestic security measures taken under the president's war powers, such as military tribunals. Even if "international law" were relevant here - which it isn't - as the masterful United Nations has demonstrated once again during the current conflict, international law is like Santa Claus. The only difference is that Santa Claus exists only in the imaginations of small children, whereas international law also exists in law school classrooms. In the corporeal world, international law is whatever the United States and Great Britain say it is. Because we are at war, and moreover, because the president is the commander in chief, Bush had authority on Sept. 11 to give orders to shoot down the fourth plane if it had circled back toward Washington. Because we are at war, Bush had authority to bomb Afghanistan. He didn't need congressional approval for those actions any more than he needs congressional approval right now to try any suspected belligerents on U.S. soil in military tribunals. If Congress doesn't like it, the Constitution gives it two choices: It can cut off funding, or it can impeach the president. Congress controls the purse - it doesn't wage war. Knock yourselves out, boys. (Has anyone else noticed there have been no polls taken on the issue of military tribunals for terrorists?) In 1942, six months after Pearl Harbor, the Supreme Court upheld the use of military tribunals for eight German spies captured on U.S. soil, two of whom were U.S. citizens. In that case, Ex Parte Quirin, the court found that military tribunals were appropriate for suspected enemies who have "entered or after entry remained in our territory without uniform" intending to engage in an act of belligerency against the United States. (And the Huns were accused only of planning attacks on war materials - not on U.S. citizens.) The Supreme Court decided Quirin in less than 24 hours. Three days later, the military tribunal found the saboteurs guilty. Five days after that, six of the eight were executed, including Herbert Hans Haupt, a U.S. citizen. Only the two who had ratted out the plot were given prison sentences instead of death. Though Bush has ordered military tribunals only for non-citizens, the Quirin court did not exempt citizens from trial in military tribunals. "Citizenship in the United States" provides no shelter, the court held, if "unlawful belligerency is the gravamen of the offense." Citizens who associate with the enemy - "with its aid, guidance and direction" - are "enemy belligerents." The fact that the "courts are open" - the phrase absurdly invoked by Sen. Leahy - refers to the Supreme Court's decision in Ex Parte Milligan holding that military tribunals "can never be applied to citizens ... where the courts are open and their process unobstructed." Note first the use of the word "citizen" in that sentence. Note further the Supreme Court's subsequent holding in Quirin that citizens can be tried in military tribunals. Indeed, the Quirin court expressly distinguished Milligan's case from the Nazi saboteurs' case on the grounds that Milligan "was not an enemy belligerent." When Ashcroft is forced to waste his time in Senate hearings this week instead of protecting the nation from more terrorist attacks, he should remind them that there's no exemption for senators either.
Courtesy Marbled Meat News Service
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 11:01:13 (EST)

My two cents are: Anyone mystified by the trajectory of Khadaffi orthography should read the preface to T.E. Lawrence's opus "The Seven Pillars of Wisdom." Here, Lawrence explains his chameleonic spelling of Arabic words, which, he claims, have no "proper" spellings one way or another in English. Koran is OK, but so is Q'ur'an. If you're hip to the lingo, you don't worry about it. There are bigger things to worry about, such as what the hell is a burka or burq'a, and what is Ann C'oult'ur going to be yapping about this week.
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- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 10:58:29 (EST)

My two cents are: To safely "fell" any tree you must 1) Put on your spike heels and lipstick. 2) rub plenty of K-Y jelly on the axe-handle, for later. 3) go at it, Brucie.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 10:54:15 (EST)

My two cents are: Nobody said that Google wouldn't find the homosexual variants.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 10:51:42 (EST)

My two cents are: http://www.osha-slc.gov/SLTC/logging_advisor/manual/felling/felling.html
Barney Google
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 10:34:50 (EST)

My two cents are: To "fell a tree" means more than just cutting it down. Felling means to cut the tree in such a way that it falls in the desired direction and results in the least damage to the tree.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 10:34:12 (EST)

My two cents are: To safely fell any one tree, you must 1.Eliminate or minimize exposure to potential hazards found in the tree and in the surrounding area 2.Determine an appropriate felling direction 3.Plan and clear a retreat path. 4.Determine the proper hinge size. 5.Use a proper felling technique in making the cuts.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 10:33:44 (EST)

My two cents are: Felling Trees More people are killed while felling trees than during any other logging activity. These accidents CAN be avoided!
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 10:33:14 (EST)

My two cents are: You could find the seven ages of man with a Google search. Hell, with a Google search you can find legal documents ordering that tree falling shall occur only under certain conditions. Hell, you can find fallers falling trees page upon page until the cows stop raining. Google is a damn fine search machine. Ten monkeys could sit in a room with ten typewriters and eventually google would find every word. Think about it.
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- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 03:02:03 (EST)

My two cents are: I'll bite. An infinitive is an infinitive. A gerund is an infinitive without "to", and the back end monkeyed up with "ing." In French, which is where "avec" comes from, it's "le gerondif", if I remember correctly, and is formed by adding "ant." So if "to puke" is "vomir", which I think it might be, then "puking" might be "vomant", but that doesn't sound right, and I think it is "vomissant", because that sounds right to my French ear, the left one. Which means you form the gerondif by truncating the third person singular subjunctive, dropping the "e" and adding "ant." Probably the easiest way to find out is to look for a French translation of the seven ages of man. Did you know that Voltaire was into Shakespeare, but allowed as how he was inferior because he worked in a language that had no true future tense? Frogs are always saying idiotic stuff like that, most of them totally unaware that French is inferior because it doesn't have post-positions or, as you might call them, prepositional adverbs. For example, in French there is no way to say "check out", and hence no way to say "check-out." Think about it. If you can't say "check out" you can't say "check up" or "check in" or even "check with" or "check to" as in "I'll check to the dealer." If you can't say "check up" you can't say "check up on" and you certainly can't say "check up on about", which you might conceivably want to say. It makes for an extremely limited language, this lack of prepositional fluidity. I recommend that you all ponder this. French is nothing but an advanced form of ebonics, and people think it is classy only because a lot of it is snorted back into the nose, in a way that most white people can't duplicate.
House of Meat
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 02:56:35 (EST)

My two cents are: Didn't seem to be that many bitey ants at the picnic.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 02:09:29 (EST)

My two cents are: And a grand return it was/is. I'll bring the buffalo wings tomorrow. Courage.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 00:21:14 (EST)

My two cents are: "The picnic cloth is spread on the bones of socialsit mewlings." Which brought me to mewling and puking. Which comes from the seven ages of man, which methought was in the tempest, but I can't find it. Maybe hamlet, maybe something else, I know it's in there. Surely there are those who deal in praxis and meat bees who might locate same and thus kindly take from me the mewling jacket. But gerunds, yea, them's what's truly's worth a good mewl and puke. Good burqa post(s). As to kiddie names, the Spanish "y", joining paternal and maternal names, seems rather neatly and reasonably distributive. Anyhow, later, gentlemen (and occasional lady?). Whatta picnic.
virtual burqa avec half a mewling jacket <Borg 4 of 22>
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 00:19:16 (EST)

My two cents are: But not all at once. That short-neck had once saved the young Breightly boy from drowning in the Brazos during the flood of '58. That short-neck had once chased a fox out of the gerbil coop. So, they only ate that short-neck a little at a time. First, a leg. Then another. Let the fellow live a little longer. Good short-neck like that, you don't want to eat him all at once
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 00:13:10 (EST)

My two cents are: Rare is the male calico. This is why he is the devil. 'Nuff said. End of story. Doink! POOF!
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 00:09:55 (EST)

My two cents are: Pa Breightly had figgered wrong agin. Sendin the brain-twerp off to maryland hadn't helped the clod farm much. It was still 150 acres of red brazos mud that wouldn't support so much as a handful of meat bees swarming low over the sweating red clay. And the self-tanned carcasses of the saltwater cows still littered the horizons of the family clod farm. Things had gotten so bad lately they'd been forced to eat the last short-necked giraffe.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 00:09:41 (EST)

My two cents are: No, the correct spelling of asshole is a-r-s-e-h-o-l-e*
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 00:09:14 (EST)

My two cents are: Ashcroft is detaining 68,000 calico cats suspected of having satanic links.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 00:08:20 (EST)

My two cents are: Just bought 1000 shares of Enron for about 60 bucks. If the downward trend reverses itself and this baby climbs back to where it was 12 months ago, I'm looking to pocket a cool 85K. I'm also in the market for marked down burqas on the chance the Taliban will eventually control Pakistan.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 00:05:53 (EST)

My two cents are: Ashcroft hates calico cats because the male is sterile.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 00:05:37 (EST)

My two cents are: Those with names that did not roll off the english tongue fell into the tar pits of la brae and became another part of the fossil record. Others became parakeets and and were eaten by the widow's cats. In the end, it was the same, the only difference being the fossil record. I thought a gerund was like an infinitive. to mewl, to puke, that's the infinitive as i recall spake ms fishbreath.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 00:05:15 (EST)

My two cents are: Asshole.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 00:02:25 (EST)

My two cents are: Not to be an asshole, but I believe the current correct Western spelling is b-u-r-q-a. I'm not sure how this makes much difference but that's what I'm seeing in print and that's what I'm hearing on the street. Burqa. The same thing happened as Moammar Al Qadaffi's name became, first, Khadaffi, then Q'daffi, finally the proper Q'Aa'daf'ffi. Mao Tse Tung, likewise became Mao Zhe Dung. Go figure.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 23:59:13 (EST)

My two cents are: Perhaps we could have "Mac-Hyphens" and "Fitz-Hyphens" and such. Those with the longer names would fall off the hard drives and into the tarpits of la brae. The others would grow up to weave carpet in indonesia or perhaps evolve into small flying warm-blooded dinosaurs. In the end, we will all be eaten by the meat bees so it dosen't really matter.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 23:10:28 (EST)

My two cents are: Did you people ever decide whether mewling and puking were ajectives, adverbs, or verbs? Maybe the were gerunds! Anyone for gerunds? Gerundive verbs, that's how Mrs. Miller taught me to diagram them in the fifth form. Gives you something to mewl and puke about.
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- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 23:05:45 (EST)

My two cents are: I think the child should be given the traditional fatherly name, and then when he is 18 he should choose which one he wants. At the same age, a child should choose whether he or she wants to be circumcised.
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- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 22:59:07 (EST)

My two cents are: Hey, what happens then when a couple of hyphen kids get married and have a kid? Do they have the father's two last names, then a hyphen, then the mother's two last names? Isn't somebody's name going to get screwed, finally, if this keeps up? I say, give up and use the mother's name. Men should be gallant about this.
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- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 22:56:55 (EST)

My two cents are: The "check-out" phenomenon is an artifact of of two things, Elements of style, and feminism. Both have made the hyphen acceptable in general use. The hyphenated last name is now being dissed by the fems I know, they feel they should omit the hyphen to cast off the "need" to. They now go with two last names, no hyphen.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 22:44:38 (EST)

My two cents are: In a libertarian society, people would be free to choose which words were nouns and which were verbs. Those that wanted to use certain words as verbs and others as nouns could sign contracts agreeing to such use. Those that chose not to would fumble and blurt unintelligible spewl and eventually evolve into dinosaurs called Rushus Limbaughus.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 22:40:22 (EST)

My two cents are: Finally, I would like to note that I agree with the General, below. Who among us, after all, has not spent the past two months obsessed with the burka. I am as guilty as any of you in this. Burka, burka, burka was all I thought about since the Arabs stole the airplanes. I ate burka, drank burka, dreamed burka. I can't remember a day passing when I did not stop in the middle of some banal activity and say to myself, "what the hell is a burka?"
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- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 22:39:04 (EST)

My two cents are: What gives me a thrill, wordally, is this thing I see all the time now where people write, well I can't think of a good example, but they might write "please check-out all books 15 minutes before closing time." It's where a verb and preposition sequence is nounized, so that "check out" becomes "check-out", and then they take the new noun and re-verbize it with the hyphen hanging on like dinosaur feet on a chicken. I see it every day, no shit. You see it too, but you don't notice because you have no respect for the Queen's ebonics.
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- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 22:34:00 (EST)

My two cents are: not to be pedantic but "mewling and puking" bones of socialists would have to be called adjectives when used to modify a noun like bones. Is pete still here? it reeks of his ineptitude and legendary difficulty with language and communication skills. technically, mewling and puking are both verbs.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 22:32:41 (EST)

My two cents are: THE general leans forward in the gathering gloom, her eyes glinting with anger, and delivers a surprise attack on an unexpected foreign enemy. Not the Soviet Union for invading Afghanistan, nor the Americans still bombing her country. Not the Pakistani-backed Taleban, nor yet their Arab legions, whose Wahhabi fundamentalism fuelled much of the regime�s misogyny. Instead General Suhaila Siddiq, 60, sighs with exasperation at Western feminists and their obsession with the burka, the all-enveloping veil whose forcible use symbolised for many outsiders the Taleban�s oppressive rule. �The first priority should be given to education, primary school facilities, the economy and reconstruction of the country but the West concentrates on the burka and whether the policies of the Taleban are better or worse than other regimes,� she says dismissively. �Let these things be decided by history.� She believes that the burka, which was worn long before the Taleban and still is by most women around Kabul, is not the battlefield upon which to fight their war. General Siddiq is Afghanistan�s only woman general, a surgeon, hospital director and heroine to a generation of young women who remained in the country. Born in Kandahar the daughter of a powerful regional governor, she is that rare thing: an Afghan Pashtun who is not comfortable speaking her own language and prefers Persian, historically the language of the Kabul elite. Now head of the Women and Children�s Hospital in Kabul, she is scornful of exiled Afghan women�s rights campaigners and Western feminists who champion their agenda. Her most withering comments are reserved for such vaunted women�s champions as Emma Bonino, the former EU Commissioner, who brought the wrath of the Taleban down on Afghan women when a CNN crew accompanying her filmed women patients in Kabul in 1997. Of Hillary Clinton, another supposed advocate, she simply says: �She cannot defend her own rights against her husband. How can she defend the rights of my country?� At the 400-bed hospital in Kabul, where she now heads a separate women�s section, her colleagues speak reverentially of the woman who took on the Taleban on their own ground. �General Siddiq, General Siddiq,� repeated nine times, was the universal answer from women medical students asked to name the person they most admired in the world.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 22:27:27 (EST)

My two cents are: Also, I think there may be two other guys. But not 22.
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- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 22:27:07 (EST)

My two cents are: Dug.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 22:25:41 (EST)

My two cents are: Look up "snotter" in your nautical dictionary. Then consider that it's cool to verbize a noun. Dig it.
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- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 22:24:22 (EST)

My two cents are: A smattering of Shakespeare isn't cliche. I will happily accept praxically as a riff-born neologism. The other guy is the one who's giving you a hard time on this matter, which I gather is part of the picnic.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 22:23:08 (EST)

My two cents are: Hah.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 22:20:27 (EST)

My two cents are: my bad, it was mewling and pewking that irked me. too cliche. praxically, well take your best shot. Buckley would defend me as does the definition of the word itself.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 22:19:49 (EST)

My two cents are: Well, and then there's the verbs. "Snottered"? I think I'll let you and praxis duke that one out. go, sailors.
virtual burqa
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 22:18:59 (EST)

My two cents are: The answer is in the question.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 22:18:19 (EST)

My two cents are: The truly cool thing about 21 53 37 is that it explains not only that tiny flying chirping minature dinosaurs now populate the homes of widows nationwide, but that it also explains the fossil record. Those dinosaurs that stayed small grew feathers and wings and flew away and survived. Those that got fat and grew to seven tons broke the limbs off trees and fell into the la brae tarpits.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 22:17:05 (EST)

My two cents are: It is the adverbs that have started to suck, not the adjectives. "Praxically" my ass.
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- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 22:15:54 (EST)

My two cents are: I got Pacifico. I picture myself on the bow of a boat, maybe a physicist's play boat, with the water rushing toward me, because the old man has her lugged up and snottered tight beside the main-brace. The water is the future, which quickly becomes the past as I watch, but I have no way to describe this, lacking a true future tense. I am stuck in the pluperfect subjunctive. So I hoist my Pacifico and take a virtual snort (virtual because my language prevents me from experiencing this until I have experienced it) and say, hip-hip, the picnic! May she ever unfold backward, or something.
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- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 22:13:06 (EST)

My two cents are: Which adjectives, specifically?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 22:09:56 (EST)

My two cents are: Didn't you hear? Skinny Ann's bigtime into immanence now. Sad, really.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 22:09:10 (EST)

My two cents are: a deterioration of adjectives has appeared.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 22:08:43 (EST)

My two cents are: Hey, but isn't that what immanence is really all about?
Laughing Stalk
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 22:07:58 (EST)

My two cents are: Hey ho, then. A virtual toast I offer.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 22:06:54 (EST)

My two cents are: So, what do you suppose this week's Ann Coulter column is going to be about?
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- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 22:06:34 (EST)

My two cents are: Bateson probably came closest to a true future tense when he spoke of the concept of "immanence" something inherent in something extant yet in the process of "becoming". See, bateson could say something "was" or "is" immanent, but the way he described it it was happening in front of his words, praxically speaking.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 22:06:21 (EST)

My two cents are: Mewling and puking in the best sense. Mewling, where appropriate, and puking, in deeply reasonable response.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 22:05:13 (EST)

My two cents are: The bones of socialsits. Mewling and puking. Yep, you're right.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 22:04:15 (EST)

My two cents are: This is the picnic. Just don't ever foget that 22 stout souls took many a doink to make it possible. The picnic cloth is spread on the bones of many socialsit mewlings.
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- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 21:59:27 (EST)

My two cents are: You should be proud to be among the ones they let have a chair.
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- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 21:57:07 (EST)

My two cents are: He's no laughing stalk, no borg, neither. Jell-o again. "Jell" not "gel." Say, is this the picnic?
Laughing Stalk
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 21:56:39 (EST)

My two cents are: The Frogs were in French West Africa, a big blue space on the maps back then. It had turned a bunch of different colors by the end of the '60's. They didn't roll up the phone lines because there weren't any. They used drums.
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- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 21:55:31 (EST)

My two cents are: you think neotony explains parakeets? neotony only explains Michael jackson's concept of "pretty". Now I gotta admit, I'm falling out of my chair on that one.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 21:53:59 (EST)

My two cents are: Way I see it, the brontosauri and the tyrranosauri slept in trees. If they fell out, the ones whose arms were round and heavy, with flatter scales, frequently died. The ones with flatter arms and divided scales tended to survive. Over the eons, this produced, you guessed it, the bird.
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- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 21:53:37 (EST)

My two cents are: Well, wherever it was the frogs were then, somewhere there, where they left in the fifties and rolled up the phone lines and took them with them.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 21:51:34 (EST)

My two cents are: Neotony is maybe the word I'm looking for. It was the dinosaur BABIES that turned into parakeets. The teenagers turned into ostriches. The big ones all died. Oh, by the way, can you spell e-g-g?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 21:51:28 (EST)

My two cents are: By that line of reasoning, feller, the dinosaurs had to turn into blue whales. So, where are the scales? Feathers, man, feathers is the only thing that explains the scales. Have you ever heard of neonony? I thought not. And what is this crap about Sierra Leone? When were the frogs ever in Sierra Leone? Frogs all around, mac, but no frogs in Sierra Leone. Limeys in Sierra Leone. And, judging by the name, maybe a guinea or two.
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- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 21:48:53 (EST)

My two cents are: If I type a G, this name comes up.
Glimpse
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 21:47:25 (EST)

My two cents are: He's right gel, there is such a thing as the soft-footed giraffe, it evolved from the brontasaurus with little webbed padded feet from swimming in the great lakes of the kalahari. Giraffe toes have long been considered a delicacy in that part of the world, acting, as it were as rubber on a fiat save a little tastier to the locals. In anycase, the hoofed giraffe evolved later. They evolved from the toeless stumps of all the giraffes that had their toes chewed off by the hungry Masai.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 21:46:48 (EST)

My two cents are: Never seen this before, but when I type an H into the name slot, the slot drops down to reveal the name Harlan St. Wolf. When I type a P, it drops down and says Patience Willoughby. If I type a Pe, however, it doesn't drop down to say Pete. Can anyone explain this?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 21:45:35 (EST)

My two cents are: To fall a tree doesn't sound stupid to a tree faller. Not to the man (or woman, I guess) out there in the woods falling trees for a dollar. Praxis, man. Get over it.
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- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 21:42:49 (EST)

My two cents are: "jell"??? what are you, some kind of laughing stalk?
gelatin
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 21:42:03 (EST)

My two cents are: Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 21:42:00 (EST)

My two cents are: Welcome aboard newcomer! Would you like me to explain the rules? Before I go on...patriot or socialist?
Harlan St. Wolf
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 21:40:24 (EST)

My two cents are: Still, it harkens to me that it is 50, even 70 years earlier, maybe 1895. Back when the french were hauling slave labor raw rubber out of sierra leone to tire up the early fiats that durkheim was sitting backward in that this all started. Of course Michelin continued the slave rubber trade in indo china and indeed started the vietnam war to replace the loss of sierra leone and protect their interests there. protect the rubber for fiat and drive us backward into positivism, into kuhn, and eventually into the stupid notion that seven ton dinosaurs shrunk 30,000 percent, grew feathers, learned to fly and chirp like little yellow parakeets.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 21:39:38 (EST)

My two cents are: Bullshit! Horses have hooves. Don't giraffes have some sort of padlike things? The idea of a giraffe with hooves just doesn't jell, either with me or with Bo Belinsky. Plus, why couldn't a bird be a dinosaur? Where are the leaps, where are the bounds? After all, a pterodactyl is a dinosaur, isn't it? How is a pterodactyl that much different from a great blue heron?
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- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 21:39:00 (EST)

My two cents are: I don't know. To fall a tree sounds about ten times stupider than to fell a tree. Go fall that tree? Stupid, fucking stupid. Oh, for the wisdom of Kuhn!
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 21:38:46 (EST)

My two cents are: Yo, bro. Must be picnic time.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 21:35:59 (EST)

My two cents are: fell (2), verb, noun.v.t. 1. to cause to fall; cut, knock, or strike down. Ex. One blow felled him to the ground. 2. to cut down (a tree). Ex. The lumberman will fell these great trees.
now who wears the doink jacket?
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 21:35:13 (EST)

My two cents are: I'd be open to riffing and dumping on Ken Wilber some more.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 21:33:09 (EST)

My two cents are: The english are arguably tense in a number of ways.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 21:32:36 (EST)

My two cents are: Don't be silly. Ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny, and that's all there is to it!
Tommy Kuhn
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 21:31:45 (EST)

My two cents are: I fell a tree. You fell a tree. He, she, fells a tree. We fell a tree. They fell a tree. Simple present tense. I am felling a tree. You are felling a tree. He, she is felling a tree. We are felling a tree. They are felling a tree. Present continuous. I felled a tree. You felled a tree. He, she felled a gourd. We felled a Denny's signpost. They felled John Ashcroft. Simple past. More left.
More Tenses in English Than You Can Shake a Stick At
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 21:29:42 (EST)

My two cents are: Our Services Removal We take great care of removing your trees. We don't just fall a tree, we gently cut and lift the tree off the property to insure no damage will be done to your home, wires or disturbing the ground around it. Scott's Tree Service Servicing Vero Beach Since 1974 855 US Highway 1, Vero Beach, Florida 32960 Phone 561-569-3874 or Pager 377-3050 Email [email protected]
Scott
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 21:27:42 (EST)

My two cents are: The horse is the short-necked giraffe. most of ontogeny still lives among us with the exception that dinosaurs are not birds. that is just way way stupid like leaps and bounds evolution. any biologist that's ever cultivated a taste for stilton knows that. even lotka's principle denies the leaps and bounds. these latest yaks out of harvard are just playing a sort of roll the dice with kuhn's theory "structure of scientific revolution" which wasn't anything more than a hashed ove hegelian dialectic in the first place. I've come to think that Kuhn may have written the piece as a fucking joke. I pulled a B+ writing on his paper without ever reading the fucker. In reality I have to admit it was a third level paper, but the prof had a thing for kuhn so I was doomed anyway. And besides, you could tell from the structuralist title where it had to go anyway. So maybe kuhn was hased over levi-strauss as well. Maybe all three of these fucks were just staring out the rear window of a renault in 1962 thinking they were going forward as they filled the floorboards with empty bottles of chambartine and dreamt of patience willoughby.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 21:18:34 (EST)

My two cents are: Building with Logs covers: financing, the site, planning a good home, acquisition of logs, how to fall a tree and trim it, storage of logs, safety, foundations and basements, first logs and floor joists, hewing and the broad axe, cutting a round notch, sealing between the logs, setting allowance, gable ends, electrical wiring, finishing touches and much more.
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- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 21:18:22 (EST)

My two cents are: 3) Scout out the area. If you are going to fall a tree, have an escape path to a protected place and go there as soon as the tree moves. This escape path may need to be made before you begin cutting on the tree. Most cutters killed by falling trees and limbs are within 15 feet (3 or so meters) of the tree when hit. Try getting about 50 feet away, uphill and in back of the tree when it starts coming down. Check the tree for lean. Do not try to fall the tree against its lean unless you are a pro and have the right equipment (hydraulic jacks, for instance). Check for lean using a plumb or an axe held verticle from it's handle. Use good falling technique:
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- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 21:16:14 (EST)

My two cents are: In December 1999, an interdisciplinary team (IDT) was assigned to conduct an environmental analysis for a proposal to fall, buck and scale (tree falling for measurements) a sample of trees proposed for harvest to verify cruise accuracy, develop local volume tables, and validate timber volume equations. The project area is located within the proposed treatment areas for planned timber sales through Fiscal Year 2002...... A method used to adjust the indirect and ocular estimates involves falling a random sample of trees that are proposed to be harvested. From this set of random sample trees, direct measurements are taken and used to adjust the indirect estimates which improves the accuracy of the cruise. In response to this proposal an environmental analysis was conducted and documented in Environmental Assessment (EA) Number OR-080-00-10.
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- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 21:14:10 (EST)

My two cents are: UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR BUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMENT Oregon State Office P.O. Box 2965 Portland, Oregon 97208 In Reply Refer to: 5400 (OR-931) P September 27, 2001 EMS TRANSMISSION 09/27/2001 Instruction Memorandum No. OR-2001-081 Expires: 9/30/2002 To: District Managers: Lakeview, Salem, Eugene, Roseburg, Medford, and Coos Bay From: Associate State Director Subject: Sample Tree Falling Lawsuit Program Area: Forestry - Timber Management Purpose: The effect of Instruction Memorandum (IM) No. OR-2001-040 expires on 09/30/2001 (although the IM itself does not expire until 09/30/2002). This IM extends the effect of the previous IM for the duration of FY 2002 in order to provide limitations on sample tree falling, based upon an agreement with the plaintiffs in the Umpqua Watershed et al. v. BLM lawsuit opposing timber sale sample tree falling. Policy/Action: For the duration of FY 2002, or until Districts are directed otherwise, as it applies to sales prepared under the six western Oregon Resource Management Plans, sample tree falling for timber sale cruising may not occur as follows: 1.In reserve land use allocations (LUA) such as Late-Successional Reserves and Riparian Reserves, regardless of prescription. 2.On any regeneration timber sales or cutting units. 3.On any Douglas-fir trees greater than 20.0 inches diameter at breast height (DBH). 4.On any other tree species greater than 15.0 inches DBH. These limitations will apply on a cutting unit-by-cutting unit basis, versus applying to a whole sale. An exception would be cutting units that are multiple LUAs, e.g., Matrix and Riparian Reserve. In this case, sample tree falling on the Matrix portion of the cutting unit may occur (assuming it is not a regeneration prescription or on any trees greater than the DBH limits) if the differing LUAs within the cutting unit are clearly identified on Exhibit A, with the boundaries clearly designated on the ground. 2 In the measurement of DBH, 15.1 inches and 20.1 inches are to be considered greater than 15.0 and 20.0 inches, respectively, and such trees are not to be felled as sample trees. Time Frame: The duration of FY 2002 or until Districts are directed otherwise. Background: In the Umpqua Watershed et al. v. BLM lawsuit opposing timber sale sample tree falling, the agreement with the Plaintiffs to temporarily stay the litigation through FY 2001 by limiting where sample tree falling can occur has been extended. It was apparent during the negotiations that it was more explicit to express the limitations regarding where we would not fall sample trees for timber sale cruising. This has not changed. Manual/Handbook Sections Affected: None. Coordination: Coordination has occurred with Roger Nesbit of the Regional Solicitor's Office. Contact: Please contact Lyndon Werner (OR-931) at 503-952-6071 if you have any questions. Districts with Unions are reminded to notify their unions of this IM and satisfy any bargaining obligations before implementation. Your Servicing Personnel Office or Labor Relations Specialist can provide assistance in this matter. Signed by Charles E. Wassinger Authenticated by Mary O'Leary Management Assistant Distribution WO-230 (Room 204 LS) - 1 OR-014 (Mel Crockett, Kathy Kirkham) - 2 OR-082 (Jeffrey Gordon, Michael Finegan, Clark Tiecke) - 3 OR-090 (Dave DeMoss, Larry Larson, Frank Cooper) - 3 OR-100 (Steve Niles, Steve Wetherell) - 2 OR-110 (Dave D. Reed, Pat Madden) - 2 OR-120 (Jon Menten, Gary Britt) - 2 OR-931 - 1 REO (Stephen Odell, Debbie Pietrzak) - 2
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 21:03:39 (EST)

My two cents are: Et'ud be cawled de half o' ass translashun program lak de wun whut de fool usata habe round abouts de payge.
duh-uugh-jubeuhhh
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 21:01:09 (EST)

My two cents are: "'...failed to give timely and audible warnings before falling trees.' Huggers and Fallers! The Whole Crew!
and once again FALLING is shown to be the present tense <D*O*I*N*K*!>
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 20:21:05 (EST)

My two cents are: It looks like it took alot of work t' do dat 19:59:55 digg. Or do you habe a translashun program dat does it automatically, duh...uh...?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 20:18:59 (EST)

My two cents are: "Maxxam/Pacific Lumber and their Humboldt County Sheriffs escorts also violated Cal-OSHA safety regulations by cutting trees with forest defenders directly hugging or placing themselves near the fall path of the tree. Timber Fallers also failed to give timely and audible warnings before falling trees."
Huggers and Fallers! The Whole Crew!
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 20:16:48 (EST)

My two cents are: No problema. Take back those doinks!
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 20:16:03 (EST)

My two cents are: I fell trees. DoinkDoinkDoinkDoinkDoinkDoink.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 20:14:57 (EST)

My two cents are: Yeah, that dude is a tree faller. He fells trees.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 20:13:51 (EST)

My two cents are: You poor dorks. They don't teach much grammar in grammar school any more, do they? The present is just the white bread verb. I fell the tree. What is the dang problem? Sure, you wouldn't say it much, but it is still the present tense, same as if you said I swim in the pool or I drink beer or I drive wild. Get used to it. Doink.
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- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 20:12:19 (EST)

My two cents are: He fells trees. DOINK!
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 20:11:45 (EST)

My two cents are: It looks like it took a lot of work to do that 19:59:55 thing. Or do you have a translation program that does it automatically?
House of Meat
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 20:06:57 (EST)

My two cents are: "except for "felling" there is no actual present tense of the verb."
except perhaps the present tense provided by "falling" - Oh and ... <DOINK!>
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 20:06:31 (EST)

My two cents are: You never knew, because they don't teach it here. It's called the "present continuous": I am walking, I am climbing the stairs, I am falling this here tree. You poor saps got no praxis. You fall a tree, you don't "fell" a tree. Cocktail-party guests and 19th-century poets talk of "felling" trees, but a tree faller falls them. You are all dorks.
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- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 20:03:12 (EST)

My two cents are: so purvis figgered alot uh din's befo'e droppin' some tree. most impo'tant uh all wuz which way he wuz gonna run and how far when doodads went wrong. What it is, Mama! dosen't bode well t'be trippin' upside yo' gas kin and bea' waaay coo'a' tryin' t'avoid 4 tons uh shearin' oak. Ya' know? And dere wuz some timin' doodad, sump'n ya' do by watchin' de tree at da damn cut fo' some widenin', but also down along de trunk likes ya' would some pool cue, lookin' t'sense dat shift in weight cuz' de longa' ya' kin keep cuttin', de betta' bust ya' dig. but too far and too long and ya' end down too close t'de energy when it happens. knowin' when t'run (and not trippin' upside de gas kin). but da damn point real wuzn't about dat, but about da damn way cutters rap about it versus college super honchos. anyway, ah' plum wanna snatch de fall fell doodad anoda' step. Jes hang loose, brud. t'praxis uh course. dis asshole started me dinkin' about fall and fell and all uh a sudden it became clear. Ah be baaad... de reason we kint real reach praxis. became real clear. Ah be baaad... we duzn't gots some future tense fo' our verbs. Oh sho' man, we've gots "gots'ta run", and "gots'ta be runnin'", even "gots'ta run". but ya' kint make some future out uh run likes ya' kin some past tense as in ran. 'S coo', bro. So's de bottom line be dat some tree kint fall into de future in language, but in real life it always duz, which be why ya' always need t'know where da damn bea' waaay coo'a' and gas kin wuz. if ya' see whut ah' meant. Man! so at least fo' now, its gots me wonderin' if maybe our language reflects de fact dat we go drough life and reality backward. radical likes starin' out da damn rear window uh a movin' car. Ah be baaad... our seats facin' de wrong way. Slap mah fro! would certainly 'esplain some uh de steerin' we've done. Also probably 'esplains why old crankcase haid wuz pushin' de bultaco backward fum san antone t'tempe. probably 'esplains oda' din's too. 'S coo', bro. Keitel pullin' de 'cuda wrong way into de roll-in at da damn in and out, fo' one.
this just in from Keitel's home planet, Ebonia!
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 19:59:55 (EST)

My two cents are: Well, let's see. The verb is "to fell." But, you're right, except for "felling" there is no actual present tense of the verb. He's felling the tree. The past tense is "felled." He felled the tree. Future tense, "fell." He will fell the tree. I suppose you could say, "he fells," in answer to the question, "What does that lazy Mexican do for the Boise-Cascade Company?" What present tense is it that covers the use of "ing?" I forget. I'll take my doink like a man if one is really due me.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 19:55:34 (EST)

My two cents are: Sometimes I be here, sometimes I be there, sometimes I be not here or there.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 19:46:55 (EST)

My two cents are: "The other fell is the present tense used to connote making the tree fall on purpose."
I challenge you go use "fell" in the present -- i.e. not past nor future -- tense.
(gotta DOINK waiting with your name on it), - Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 19:44:34 (EST)

My two cents are: "Where is Ebonia?"
I don't know but Mybonia is in your mother's mouth!
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 19:41:06 (EST)

My two cents are: Here's a future tense for your verbs....
DOINK!
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 19:37:02 (EST)

My two cents are: One more very ominous note: after two weeks of flawless diction and vocabulary, the President made a speech the other day to the CIA that included no less than four instances of the word "misunderestimate." It's like watching the last half of Awakenings.
From someone else's pickle jar
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 17:29:56 (EST)

My two cents are: Okay, okay, Cali boy. The snootiness threw me off. Figured it had to be the pineapple.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 17:26:35 (EST)

My two cents are: The pineapple speaks English now? Puh-lease!
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 17:24:54 (EST)

My two cents are: Don't credit the pineapple with that one. That was me, a boy from Cali.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 17:22:29 (EST)

My two cents are: Why do we have two words, there and their. What's the difference? They both sound the same.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 17:21:36 (EST)

My two cents are: We don't HAVE to privatize Social Security any more. The Republicans managed to ensure its early bankruptcy, so there's no need to destroy it by other mean.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 17:21:27 (EST)

My two cents are: The pineapple is right about their being two verbs. What he doesn't know is one is real working American and the other is pussy. End of story.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 17:19:29 (EST)

My two cents are: Speaking of Enron, when are we going to get around to privatizing Social Security? What's the hang up? What could possibly go wrong?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 17:19:11 (EST)

My two cents are: Back when that was a good thing?
doubt it
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 17:13:53 (EST)

My two cents are: I went through the Cali public school system back when that was a good thing.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 17:06:46 (EST)

My two cents are: Two different verbs, see?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 17:05:48 (EST)

My two cents are: So there you have it. Of course you can say the tree fell. Trees fall all the time. In this case, fell is the past tense of fall. The other fell is the present tense used to connote making the tree fall on purpose. The past tense is felled.
simple really
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 17:04:48 (EST)

My two cents are: I already felled it?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 17:02:23 (EST)

My two cents are: Fwall that tree, boy!
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 17:01:05 (EST)

My two cents are: Pete died.
End of Story.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 17:01:00 (EST)

My two cents are: Yeah, sure, defend the language with no one-word future tense. I suppose you think this "evolution" thing is more than a mere theory too? Well, smarty pants, WHERE"S THE SHORT-NECK GIRAFFE??? HUH??
gotcha!
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 16:59:59 (EST)

My two cents are: Gee, hwat's teh bgi dael, Ie jist pecked pu 3,000 sheras of ENE at .62, sie teh daaed cet bhounce. dinoke*!
ePt�e
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 16:59:42 (EST)

My two cents are: Where is Ebonia?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 16:57:00 (EST)

My two cents are: In un-written communication we have the future imperfect, thus, I'm "going to" go, or, more usually, "gonna" go. Then there is the Ebonics variation, I be go by'm'by.
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- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 16:52:26 (EST)

My two cents are: Pete� has pride? Why?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 16:48:53 (EST)

My two cents are: Yeah, but that future tense requires two words, minimum, unlike past and present tenses. Why can't we have fall, fell and, say, "fwall" for the future tense. It combines fall and shall and works quite well. A little hard to pronounce but works fine in written communication.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 16:47:58 (EST)

My two cents are: That's not accurate at all. All in all, the one who called himself Pete� probably posted anonymously as many times as anyone on this site. And when he returns from one of his retirements he always starts by posting anonymously for a while, until he burps up some foul thought he is so proud of that he can't refrain from signing it.
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- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 16:47:34 (EST)

My two cents are: We even have an imperative future tense, example "shall go" in American or "will go" in English. Ours is a rich tongue, with all the usual tenses.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 16:44:49 (EST)

My two cents are: Hey, where did Pete go? I knew it would be tough when he came back to a changed America after his junket but I never figured him for a coward. He always signed his name.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 16:43:45 (EST)

My two cents are: -$55.50 per share in the last 10 days? Big deal.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 16:41:33 (EST)

My two cents are: It's not built into the verbs.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 16:41:00 (EST)

My two cents are: We don't have a future tense for our verbs?
doubt it
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 16:39:14 (EST)

My two cents are: Buying the farm?
doubt it
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 16:36:59 (EST)

My two cents are: Yeah, but Enron's buying the farm now.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 16:36:38 (EST)

My two cents are: Snippy loves them both. Gave the ranch to MicroSoft and Enron gave him the ranch, it's all a big love fest.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 16:34:35 (EST)

My two cents are: Any man who hate Microsoft has to love Enron.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 16:32:55 (EST)

My two cents are: Oh sure, it makes it look like Enron is on the skids. That's what they want you to think. Buy!
doubt it
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 16:31:37 (EST)

My two cents are: fyi, and to fufill your your giddy gleeful gloating, I offer the following: http://www.thomsonfn.com/stockquote/fcgi-bin/tipsheet_delay_ts?rnd=325077051069599900&select=1&group=ts&stq_tmpl_name=stock_quote_delay.html&ticker=ENE
Glint
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 16:27:34 (EST)

My two cents are: Of course, he hadn't become gruff yet, just a young turk with a shiny face looking for, and finding, adventure. The hard knocks came later and they haven't stopped.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 16:26:33 (EST)

My two cents are: I myself spent 25 years with the Calmar Steamship Company out of Baltimore. The men all spoke in quiet reverence when his name came up. Used to see him at night on the corner of E. Baltimore and Gay Sts. with a posse of beautiful young hookers rubbing up against him while he signed autographs for swabbies and sailors on shore leave.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 16:21:57 (EST)

My two cents are: Hard to beat an old salt in a battle of wits.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 16:18:23 (EST)

My two cents are: He can take a shot to the solar plexus that would cripple a landlubber.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 16:17:25 (EST)

My two cents are: He's a tough one alright. An excellent character actor like Slim Pickens.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 16:16:00 (EST)

My two cents are: I am still riding the positions I took in '76. Should I be wheeling and dealing and paying lots of commissions?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 16:13:24 (EST)

My two cents are: The crynic's real edge has nothing to do with time differentials or with the fact that he's a boy from Mary. It's the guy's read on the situation that sets him apart and makes it so difficult to counter. That and his possession of the true facts. And the gruffness borne of weeks spent fighting the swells off Cape Hatteras and living off the fat of the land in the Cook Islands. The man has no patience for fell-gooders or false facts.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 16:13:15 (EST)

My two cents are: Cali would own the day, if it weren't for that gruff maritime basard from Mary, that crynic. I think he take advantage of the time differential or something, because he's mighty tough to beat.
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- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 16:00:53 (EST)

My two cents are: They started the day at $91.
But it's not a "near total collapse"
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 15:50:39 (EST)

My two cents are: $.60
Even Salon is Laughing at Them
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 15:48:17 (EST)

My two cents are: I'll sell my Webvan stock certificates cheap. Suitable for framing!
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 15:43:47 (EST)

My two cents are: $.80
going, going ...
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 15:27:47 (EST)

My two cents are: We own the nite.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 15:21:26 (EST)

My two cents are: Lunch first, then the picnic.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 15:04:07 (EST)

My two cents are: I'll sell you my shares of Southern Pacific.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 15:03:34 (EST)

My two cents are: OK, spread blanket, get out wine. The good stuff this time.
Pas de doink
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 15:03:26 (EST)

My two cents are: No thanks. I'm putting my money into American Motors Co.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 15:01:57 (EST)

My two cents are: Glint, crynic and Pete's ghost are all on the phone with their brokers now. Is "sell" the Hawaiian word for "buy"?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 15:01:28 (EST)

My two cents are: Look, doubt it may be dumb as a post, but at least he's a skeptical post. I say, it's good to have him on the board. Especially now that what's-his-name is gone. Stick around, doubt it. Please amplify on these "thoughts" of yours.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 15:00:06 (EST)

My two cents are: Sure, buy a company about to go bankrupt. Great idea!
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 14:57:46 (EST)

My two cents are: He doubts it because it smacks of another liberal lie. Besides, Enron is a Texas company and, well, you know. Anyway, this total collapse couldn't happen to a nicer price gouger.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 14:56:40 (EST)

My two cents are: doubt it.
doubt it
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 14:52:47 (EST)

My two cents are: Now's the time to BUY!
Unca Dick
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 14:49:03 (EST)

My two cents are: HOUSTON (Reuters) - Enron Corp. (NYSE:ENE - news) hovered on the brink of one of the biggest corporate collapses in U.S. history on Wednesday as its rescue by rival Dynegy Inc. (NYSE:DYN - news) fell apart.
$1.20 - Lastest quote
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 14:45:31 (EST)

My two cents are: And on what do you base your doubt, oh thick-skulled one?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 14:41:59 (EST)

My two cents are: near total collapse?
doubt it
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 14:37:22 (EST)

My two cents are: Why is it that Drudge will trumpet the stock decline of a relatively insignificant company like Salon.com, but completely ignores the near total collapse of corporate giant Enron?
Just Wondering
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 14:23:42 (EST)

My two cents are: Must be in Java. Ability to fight Muslim extremists preferred.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 14:20:27 (EST)

My two cents are: Wanted: Computer Programmer. Must know Java and be familiar with frames. Knowledge of text and image blink techniques essential. Be all that you can be.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 13:45:15 (EST)

My two cents are: Don't call us, we'll call you. On de mystic horn of Shiva.
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- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 11:27:54 (EST)

My two cents are: I took off one day of unemployment to go to a job interview yesterday. Since this is a real job I used a head hunting recruiter instead of an agent. I and two poor fellows showed up to interview for three positions. I was there getting grilled for more than six hours. I must have talked to seven different people. It was as if the only job those people seem to have is nosing around other people. One of the first persons I interviewed I took to be a regular working bee. She made some comment like, "Hmm, I don't know why they're interviewing now after they just had lay offs, but oh well, they must know what they're doing." Then I interviewed with Santa Claus. Flannel shirt, specktacles, beard and hair that cascaded beneath the bald dome on top. We old timers hit it off. The only things he wanted to talk about was the good old days when we used to program things like 8085s and 8051 processors and assembly languages. Finally I interviewed with the Director of Engineering, a couple of his managers, and a supervisor that reported to one of them. The recruiter that got me in had said the client was very anxious to get someone in ASAP. When the supervisor, who is Asian-Indian,asked if I had any questions, I asked how soon they might want someone to start. This cab driver said, "Oh, couple of weeks, another month, perhaps de first of de year." At least I got a paper cup of water out of it.
Glint
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 09:58:10 (EST)

My two cents are: So, why don't the men here drop trees anymore like Anonymous@22:39:48 did when he was a wee lad? Today's good fellows have abandoned the ancient art and opted for felling the sticks. O.K. Meat, you may drop the duck story in when ready. Let the ducks land where they fell.
Glint
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 07:56:52 (EST)

My two cents are: I must have missed the golden moment when the President was transformed into a man before our very eyes. According to the smitten Peggy.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 01:25:32 (EST)

My two cents are: Whatever praxis is, I sure am glad that everybody is flocking in to do it after 22 devoted individuals carried this site alone for damn near a year and finally drove a stake into the vital moosh of the pineapple. It looked bleak when they were dancing on the turd-pile and proclaiming they were King of the Hill, but now that they've slunk off it doesn't look so tough, does it? It looks like a nice place to come and spread out the blanket and open the basket and uncork the wine, doesn't it? No terrorists here, no doinking here. Well, hell, I guess there's 22 who can take a moment of quiet pride, and reflect on how they did their part to make the world a little bit safer for praxis. 22 nameless individuals, or maybe 22 individuals and 44 names, or 4 names and 44 individuals, or something like that. The port 110 sniffer broke down long ago and nobody has keep up the count.
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- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 00:29:16 (EST)

My two cents are: No, no, that's OK. Leave in jar. I think the three dufuses suddenly appearing in Afghanistan was more timely. Tip top. But that was back when the world still took Coulter seriously, and this bitter war was new and bright as a subway token. We've all been drug through hell since. But on the bright side, they've taken the other side of the old supermarket from the side taken over by the Dollar Store, and they're slapping together something called Food Maxx. My guess is that this place is going to sell food, so that you can chew on something besides a bowl of menudo or a Chik-o-Stix while you're getting your nails lengthened or waiting to go light on next month's pay at 24-Hour Check Cashing. Food Maxx.... it has a certain je ne sais quoi, a zing or patina.... I can't wait until the semis roll up and unload the merchandise. No more driving two miles to Safeway, or Raley's, or any of a dozen giant chains, or to Trader Joe's for the frozen moules meuniere. Food Maxx is going to fill the void.
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- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 00:20:09 (EST)

My two cents are: OK. We'll work on praxis. In all senses. & In the meantime, like it or not, we says: feliz cumpleanos.
Felix
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 00:18:20 (EST)

My two cents are: Somebody's also way behind on praxis. What's up with that?
hmm
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 00:10:29 (EST)

My two cents are: Does somebody need to take Candycane Man out of the pickle jar?
Keep Up with the Board
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 00:08:23 (EST)

My two cents are: "Don't worry about ****, he'll be back. He's lurking" - Anonymous@16:10:34. You know Anonymous, denial is one of the big steps in the grieving process. Glint - Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 22:30:34 (EST)
initial grief reference--jumping off point for grief riff (just for reference)
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 00:06:11 (EST)

My two cents are: OK, so the gang was all here. Which is good. It was, like, um, sorta, sorta like a birthday party. The only thing is, for example, praxis, is that they all take me for you, but they don't take you for me. Which is basically all right. Because why not. On the other hand, there are others here who you'd think would be able to roll with the punches, but seem this night a little off-balance, which is not their usual state. So it goes. Anyhow. Riffing. Lots of riffing. Major riffing.
Laughing Stalk et al.
- Wednesday, November 28, 2001 at 00:01:06 (EST)

My two cents are: There are getting to be too many people on this page. I can hardly tell which one is Gnat any more.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 23:46:13 (EST)

My two cents are: Yo, Glint, are you ready for the duck story? No? The liberal chump here is not in denial, he's just working the reverse Tinkerbell. If everyone claps her hands and says that Pete� will come back, it will increase the load of shame he will feel considering a return, and with luck the load will be enough to keep him lurking until Adam turns off the twinkle-lights. Nothing is easy with this guy, especially not tamping down the clods on his grave.
House of Meat
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 23:44:31 (EST)

My two cents are: To understand one must be able to read between the lines.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 23:44:24 (EST)

My two cents are: Did Bo Belinsky pitch a no-hitter? I mean, a real one? Back in about '61-62? He wasn't really much of a pitcher after that, but I understand he was a hell of a nine-ball stick.
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- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 23:39:20 (EST)

My two cents are: ?????? Who is this crazy loonball? What, one snakes off and another one sneaks in? There are two useless things in life: grieving about the past and worrying about the future. We call that the Whirligig Paradox. The only way out is through. I would remember more ot the Training, but I didn't have enough invested. It was my ex-wife who paid the tuition. I just went to see if they really did group hugging. And by God they did, come to think of it, and it was worth every penny. So, what the fuck is praxis? Sounds like a fungus that invades the Chambartine.
House of Meat
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 23:36:10 (EST)

My two cents are: I agree. With everything, everything. Plus, as to previous things, well, I'll tell you when I'm grieving, and I'll tell you what fer, plus. I missed that Keitel, I did, and I missed that zit chick, and I missed that Bultaco. The various Brazilians, male and female, Dean and DeLuca--or was it Montalvo? Of course. The Cali clawed one, and his Cali friend of long ago, and the Cali one with two homes, and the one whose attributes I won't mention, which I won't mention, yes yes its true all too true, their absence caused me grief, and I was grieving, grieving, grieving . . . but for that Ann who was separated from her personal anthrax bullet kit, nay I do not grieve, nor for that red and white barberpole cylinder rolling round and round nor for what was deeply encased within . . .
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 23:18:40 (EST)

My two cents are: What a man!
Patience Willoughby
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 23:14:29 (EST)

My two cents are: probably explains other things too. Keitel pulling the 'cuda wrong way into the drive-in at the in and out, for one.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 23:04:59 (EST)

My two cents are: so at least for now, its got me wondering if maybe our language reflects the fact that we go through life and reality backward. sort of like staring out the rear window of a moving car. our seats facing the wrong way. would certainly explain some of the steering we've done. Also probably explains why old crankcase head was pushing the bultaco backward from san antone to tempe.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 23:03:02 (EST)

My two cents are: Bo Belinsky. RIP.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 22:54:01 (EST)

My two cents are: but the point really wasn't about that, but about the way cutters talk about it versus college professors. anyway, I just want to take the fall fell thing another step. to praxis of course. this asshole started me thinking about fall and fell and all of a sudden it became clear. the reason we cant really reach praxis. became real clear. we don't have a future tense for our verbs. Oh sure, we've got "will run", and "will be running", even "will have run". but you cant make a future out of run like you can a past tense as in ran. So the bottom line is that a tree cant fall into the future in language, but in real life it always does, which is why you always need to know where the beer cooler and gas can were. if you see what i meant.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 22:49:54 (EST)

My two cents are: so purvis figgered alot of things before dropping a tree. most important of all was which way he was gonna run and how far when things went wrong. dosen't bode well to be tripping over your gas can and beer cooler trying to avoid 4 tons of shearing oak. And there was a timing thing, something you do by watching the tree at the cut for a widening, but also up along the trunk like you would a pool cue, looking to sense that shift in weight because the longer you can keep cutting, the better break you get. but too far and too long and you end up too close to the energy when it happens. knowing when to run (and not tripping over the gas can).
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 22:44:21 (EST)

My two cents are: dropped a few trees as a kid with the old man's sorry stihl 024. became a 041 farm boss fan later in life when cutting wood for additional income. used to get 50-75 bucks a load for split dry oak. the 041 was a pretty good saw. had two. Anyway it was a two-stroke, like the bultaco. in fact, riding the bul was alot like riding a chansaw but thats a different story. So dropping the tree always had this precursor moment, studying, thinking, weight, size, angle, etc. Took a good half hour. these were generally about 20-30 in diameter and 50-60 feet tall. Never took a live tree, not once.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 22:39:48 (EST)

My two cents are: Md. did good.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 22:39:09 (EST)

My two cents are: What am I saying? I mean BASKETBALL!
Glint
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 22:31:20 (EST)

My two cents are: I wish that I could be like Crynic and get excited about football. Looks like the Terapins upset Illinois tonight <> "Don't worry about Pete, he'll be back. He's lurking" - Anonymous@16:10:34. You know Anonymous, denial is one of the big steps in the grieving process. <> "goat gloaters"?? Doesn't that seem a little harsh, whatever it means?
Glint
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 22:30:34 (EST)

My two cents are: The TV news of the war in Afganistan has FINALLY got around to showing us the bodies laying around instead of far off plumes of dust from our bombs. Fortunately all the cadavers laying around are those of the Mecca Bobbers, and not our guys.
Tom
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 22:19:48 (EST)

My two cents are: Thanks for the info. That Coulter is one screwed up woman, isn't she. It's been a rough year for her. Didn't she get canned by National Review On-line? Ever since then, she's been out of control. I'm beginning to think she made up this whole silver bullet story.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 21:59:09 (EST)

My two cents are: I have to go see a beaner about some French doors. But I'd like to leave Glint some info on why Ann Coulter doesn't know her ass from a hole in the ground: the airlines haven't "refused" to scan baggage. All scanning equipment and sniffer dogs are currently working full-time scanning baggage, and the two companies that manufacuture the scanners are pumping out as many as they can. It is not possible to swing open an emergency door and bring down an airplane-- all doors on airliners currently in service open inward and cannot be opened against cabin pressure, even by a swarthy Arab named Mustaffa. All cabin doors on American carriers have been or are being strengthened. The list goes on, and the point is that there is no empiricism involved, just Ann reacting to her environment the way a slug reacts when poked with a stick.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 21:46:38 (EST)

My two cents are: I agree. A girl should be allowed to keep her personal anthrax in a cute little bullet pin. This is America.
Pro Ann
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 21:37:50 (EST)

My two cents are: It's going to take more than two years in Afgan terrorism school to steal another airplane with boxcutters. Not if it has a few 6-foot-five homosexual rugby champions sitting in business class. That's why stealing Ann Coulter's silver bullet charm was so unnecessary. Of course, as unnecessary as it was, it probably felt good anyway.
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- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 21:35:20 (EST)

My two cents are: Just a gang of slobberlipped Brillo pads, Tom.
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- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 21:31:45 (EST)

My two cents are: Gangs are a thing of the past. Robert Kennedy arrested all the gangsters for spitting on the sidewalk. John Ashcroft is naming the Justice Department after him because of it. Kennedy paved the way for keeping all these Arabs in jail and safe. Ashcroft knows that if he let them out they'd all try to hijack airliners with boxcutters and get pounded into the First Class coffee tub by the rest of the passengers.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 21:30:46 (EST)

My two cents are: What gang?
Tom
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 21:30:00 (EST)

My two cents are: Surely you mean: are the gang all here?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 21:22:54 (EST)

My two cents are: What I want to know is: is the gang all here?
General Cinque
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 20:59:58 (EST)

My two cents are: Let's keep burned in our brains the massacre of the Cathars, while we're at it.
Not the Archbishop of Beziers
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 20:55:33 (EST)

My two cents are: I agree. It's time we got back at yoyos like the cryboy,by running up bills atall the free Uncle Sam dental clinics and the free hillary health card hospitals. Why, I think me and my buddies'll just down a dozen eggs a day send that cholesterol count sky-high, just so's we can pick up a buncha them all expense paid quadruple bypasses. Har har. Payback.
Laughing Stalk
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 20:53:20 (EST)

My two cents are: (There is no such place as Nebr. It's Nebra.)
(.)
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 20:50:48 (EST)

My two cents are: What I admire most about the crynic is not his inside dope on how Uncle Sam has been fixing everybody's teeth for free all these years, but the touching way that he still manages to cry about Clinton pardoning about half the number of indicted crooks that Ronald Reagan or George I pardoned on the way out. People who nurse the memory of these outrages after everyone else has let it slide are important. I myself try to keep alive the outrage of the massive federal giveaway of public land to the railroads back in the 1880's. Half of Ireland is keeping alive the bitter memory of Oliver Cromwell, and Osama bin Laden is keeping alive the excesses of the Children's Crusade. I say we owe reparations to the Neanderthals, and encourage the crynic to file his claim.
House of Meat
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 20:49:54 (EST)

My two cents are: As a matter of fact, I think I'll pop down next week and get three root-canals and a couple of extractions. Sure, it will cost close to $15,000, but my insurance will pick up $300 of that easily, and it's not my dime anyway. I'm off to Brazil, leaving the American taxpayer holding the bag, courtesy the Federal Free Dentistry Program. This fellow the crynic is a genius; he's solved a lot of my problems, anyway.
Yolo Fred
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 20:42:15 (EST)

My two cents are: I'm back from a free ride at the dentist. She's from Czechoslovakia and speaks French. Knows her way around a tooth. She once spent her whole lunch hour trying to pull the stump of a busted-off third molar out with a pair of lineman's pliers, sweating like a Russian hay-baling babushka. Gave me a free ride, or maybe the working folks paid, I don't open mail that looks like it's asking for money. She told me a root canal would be nice, but we'd already been through that and I asked her what good is a root canal when you can't even see a canal in the X-ray, it's crystallized, the whole chomper is dead as an 86th floor janitor. Besides, I'd rather take the $2,600 and go to Brazil. She says OK but take some antibiotics. Why not? It's all free. Nothing so free in America as dentistry, as the crynic well knows. The true facts.
Yolo Fred
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 20:39:00 (EST)

My two cents are: I'm confused. Is Glint really a boy from Mary or is he a boy from Nebr, The Land of No Defense?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 20:06:21 (EST)

My two cents are: Just so the boy from Hawa stays away.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 19:33:27 (EST)

My two cents are: Boys and girls from Cali.
lujean barbelle
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 19:30:12 (EST)

My two cents are: That was a birth?
Ha!
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 19:26:32 (EST)

My two cents are: Ah, the gal from Ari joins the boys from Cali.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 18:56:13 (EST)

My two cents are: Happy Birthday, HOM.
Mary
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 18:40:28 (EST)

My two cents are: They: the caries.
Sad, really
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 18:13:01 (EST)

My two cents are: Even at the dentist's office, I support the Rush Limbaugh-to-crynic concept (sic) transfusion.
Nature Abhors a Vacuum
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 18:09:20 (EST)

My two cents are: The true facts are these: we are the dentists.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 18:01:46 (EST)

My two cents are: I'll take that bet!
ILL-Lyin-Eye
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 18:01:08 (EST)

My two cents are: I think I'll wait. This looks too easy. I mean, where are the true facts?
still "at the dentist"
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 17:46:01 (EST)

My two cents are: Looks like the coast is clear, boys from Cali. We can come back "from the dentist" any time we want. We own the night!
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 17:42:58 (EST)

My two cents are: How can we be sure this isn't just a ruse?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 17:41:44 (EST)

My two cents are: Ok, I admit it. I AM a betting man and tonite my dough is on the Terps against Illinois. Evening boys.
the crynic
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 17:39:30 (EST)

My two cents are: You chickenshits! Look, what makes you think the crynic isn't really one of us? He's already admitted the crynic is just a character, a charade. You can't believe those posts are anything but satire, can you? Please! But, if you're all "going to the dentist," I guess I'll join you.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 17:34:01 (EST)

My two cents are: Oh great! You're just going to leave the other 19 of us here to go mano a mano with the crynic? My ass! Come on guys, let's "go to the dentist." It's all yours, crynic, but remember, we own the night. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 17:31:20 (EST)

My two cents are: Well, here's one boy from Cali who knows when to slink off and lick his wounds. You're "en fuego," crynic. But, just remember, you may have won the battle, but the war is yet to be decided. Later, chump. I'm "going to the dentist," too. Heh, heh, heh.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 17:28:37 (EST)

My two cents are: Way to hit 'em with the true facts, crynic! Score one for the boys from Mary!
Harlan St. Wolf
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 17:25:29 (EST)

My two cents are: What do you mean, IF you were a betting man, crynic? You're either a man or you're not a man. A man bets. 'Nuff said.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 17:23:26 (EST)

My two cents are: Well, now that we've got a real, live Republican recession going, crynic, we'll probably see and end to these dentistry give aways. Of course, once the Demoncats pull us out of the muck, and companies are begging for applicants, you can be sure they'll start offering medical/dental perks again. That'll put us right back in the full-employment, universal coverage mess we just emerged from. You just can't win, crynic. This country is full of pussies. I admire your allegiance to the Cook Islands. That takes guts.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 17:21:44 (EST)

My two cents are: But the boys from Cali own the night.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 17:18:00 (EST)

My two cents are: Going to the dentist Yolo? If I were a betting man, I'd lay odds you won't pay for the visit. Probably going to the free clinic which ain't really free at all. The taxpaying Americans are footing your bill - AGAIN.
the crynic
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 17:17:44 (EST)

My two cents are: They also are armed with true facts.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 17:09:58 (EST)

My two cents are: If I were a betting man, I'd probably put my money on the boys from Cali. The boys from Mary have too much more on their minds even the umemployed one. They also lack certain fundamentals, things like equanimity and, well, smarts. However, there's always something appealing about the underdog and these Terps make up for their deficiencies with guile and obfuscation. I like the cuts of their jibs. They remind me of Gary Bauer.
go, boys from Mary, go
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 17:08:07 (EST)

My two cents are: I always knew this would come down to a battle between the boys from Cali and the boys from Mary, between the true facts and the false facts.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 17:02:07 (EST)

My two cents are: I've got to go to the dentist. But before I leave, I'd like to state for the record that the crynic is a traitor. He cares more about the Cook Islands than he does about his native land. He wears the treason jacket.
Yolo Fred
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 16:58:30 (EST)

My two cents are: Gosh, the crynic! What a breath of fresh air! A guy who really zeros in on the crux.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 16:57:16 (EST)

My two cents are: Atta boy, crynic! Way to deliver the true facts. All is not lost. Not every place is Cali after all!
Harlan St. Wolf
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 16:56:01 (EST)

My two cents are: There are lots of big, strapping boys in Nebraska, but they've lost the cornhusk intestinal fortitude. It was corporate farming and NAFTA and the Omaha Sisters of Sappho that sapped their drive. Now they are like all the other states, wearing the jism-spotted blue dress of post-modernist level 5 civic management.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 16:54:39 (EST)

My two cents are: So the Nebraska football team aspires to husk corn? Oooh!
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 16:54:26 (EST)

My two cents are: Anonymous, I have news for you. The pussy/jailbird/criminal/liar/freeloader/socialist/turd 21 doesn't own it, but your gang of bungling bumpkin boy scouts have surely infested it. Your daily verbal stench is as nauseating as a POTUS jerking off on a cheap dress or lying under oath, or obstructing justice, or offering blanket pardons for pay, or ignoring credible intelligence which resulted in thousands of U.S. deaths, or raping women. Or a POTUS wannabe trying to rig a national election or changing the rules AFTER the election. It's astonishing actual and true facts posted by the right just can't penetrate your thick single browed heads. One can't reason with unreasonable mindless zombies. Your leftist views are bad for the country and you may regret your shortsightedness one day. Probably not, but just maybe.
the crynic
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 16:54:03 (EST)

My two cents are: Don't take the names of these teams seriously. They are merely reflections of the geographical area they play in or, in some cases, what the team aspires to be.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 16:52:39 (EST)

My two cents are: I don't know about that. I can see the Buffaloes beating the Lumberjacks, but it's hard to imagine a Cornhusker doing the same.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 16:49:31 (EST)

My two cents are: Yep. That's globalization for ya.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 16:47:44 (EST)

My two cents are: You can strike the part about football. The cornholers received a drubbing from a team that couldn't beat Humboldt State. All that's left is the hog shit, and Brazil is stealing more and more of that business as the trade protections loosen.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 16:46:30 (EST)

My two cents are: It's Cali if we say so. Come to think of it, every place is Cali, at least for the last 25 years or so.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 16:45:52 (EST)

My two cents are: Watch the language! This isn't Cali!
Harlan St. Wolf
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 16:44:04 (EST)

My two cents are: It was September 11 that kicked the slats out from under the fascists. They suddenly found that there was more to life than one man's jism. They couldn't explain the world with the comfortable edifice of stained dresses and tortured cats and cashiered travel agents that they had hung their dunce caps on. It was time to shuffle off to Carnaby Street and put on the bell-bottoms of forget.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 16:43:11 (EST)

My two cents are: Isn't it impossible to defend the indefensible? Can you fuck the unfuckable?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 16:43:08 (EST)

My two cents are: There is no direct proof of the rape allegations. Give the guy a break.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 16:40:29 (EST)

My two cents are: So, Cali IS a satanic zone! Thought so.
Harlan St. Wolf
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 16:39:24 (EST)

My two cents are: I think it was the realization that Bush Junior wears the rape jacket. Hard to get all hot and bothered about a consensual blow job when your man wears the purple serape.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 16:38:15 (EST)

My two cents are: Okay, socialsits, where's the strained, forced bravado? Where are the superficial proclamations of great victory? You know it's killing you that Pete has resigned again. Show it!
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 16:37:11 (EST)

My two cents are: A great place to visit-- the Bone Cabin and Carhenge and all-- but no place to live in the winter or in the summer. Plus no culture, unless you count college football and hog shit as culture. I say remain in Cali where you can pick an avocado off the vine and the Governor has no authority to close down strip clubs.
Yolo Fred
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 16:36:37 (EST)

My two cents are: I think what drove them away was the realization that President* Bush wasn't really elected, but rather annointed by a Supreme Court putsch. The numbers don't lie and our troglodytes grew weary of defending the indefensible. 'Nuff said.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 16:34:12 (EST)

My two cents are: What does Cali stand for? Come And Live In...... Nebraska?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 16:32:17 (EST)

My two cents are: You're thinking about Tom. He's from Bakersfield which is technically part of Cali.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 16:23:49 (EST)

My two cents are: I thought there was someone here from Texas, maybe. Bamboozled again?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 16:22:53 (EST)

My two cents are: What's THIS, an invasion of college students????? It just gets worse!
Harlan St. Wolf
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 16:15:35 (EST)

My two cents are: Monday, November 26, 2001 - Before slinking off to the safety and sanctity of their silos, the Corndogs developed a bad case of red derriere. They actually accused Colorado of running up the score on Friday. That's the ultimate Nebraska joke. This from a bunch that schedules mullets at home every year and tries to hammer them by 125 points. Nebraska once beat Colorado 69-19, but that circumstance must have been different. No wonder those people are sentenced to live in Nebraska. What does the average Nebraskan get on his SATs? Drool. The Little Red now knows how it feels to be a garden-variety Southwestern Illinois Tool & Dye State College. I intended to leave it alone and move on to the Big 12 championship, but those children of the corn won't. It turns out the goat gloaters are just sad, sore losers like everyone else. "How classless is Colorado for rubbing Nebraska's nose in it?" "We didn't get the (officials') calls or the breaks." "CWho didn't deserve to win." "Their fans are the worst." "CU ran up the score on purpose." were some of the reactions. Poor babies. The Little Red whined that Buffs coach Gary Barnett left his starters in until the end and was trying to pile on. Nebraska coach Frank Solich was even asked if he thought CU was being unfair. At least he had the dignity to say no. First off, three of the most important Colorado starters weren't even on the field at the beginning of the game. During the season the Buffs already had lost to injury their best defensive player (Jashon Sykes), their top receiver (John Minardi) and their No. 1 quarterback (Craig Ochs). Then, on the first offensive series, starting tailback Cortlen Johnson, who had burned Nebraska the past two seasons, was reinjured. Starting center Wayne Lucier also had to depart hurt. Sixty Buffs participated. Which was more than the Little Red played. Colorado's second-string quarterback and fourth-string tailback humbled the Little Red's starters. CU was ahead by only 12 points 3 1/2 minutes into the fourth quarter. Cobheads, was that the juncture when the Buffs were supposed to take out the starters? The Buffs couldn't help but score more when Nebraska quarterback Eric Crouch, who used to be in the hunt for the Heisman Trophy, kept throwing interceptions on his end of the stadium. The Cornflakes complained Colorado went for two (unsuccessfully) after making it 55-30. Doesn't a team embarrass the other by passing down the field down the stretch? The Buffaloes ran the ball on 15 consecutive plays from scrimmage in the final quarter. On the final play, with the Buffs at the Nebraska 15-yard line and in position to finish with 70 points if they so wanted against a feeble defense, quarterback Bobby Pesavento went down on one knee. The Big Black and Gold took pity on The Little Red, who were on both knees the entire afternoon. Colorado threw three times at the outset of the quarter, but never again. CU wasn't at fault for Nebraska being unable to stop a simple running play up the middle. After the opening quarter score of 28-3, the Buffs were on pace to win 112-12. The Little Red should be thankful the Buffs let up. Solich was so shocked he didn't know what hit him - or who. "This was certainly not our day," he said in the locker room. "This was Okla I mean, Colorado's, day." Nebraska should play Oklahoma in the Runners-up Bowl. They can trick-play each other over and over. "I felt like we won the kicking game," Solich said. Congratulations. Maybe Nebraska should concentrate on soccer. Hundreds of Little Red (tractor) riding hoods e-mailed me all last week about how their great-and-powerful, national-title-bound team would pummel the Buffs - and the victory would be by as much as 26 points. (It was.) All their computers must have crashed over the weekend. Or they're hiding under the grain after their team was treated like a redheaded stepchild. And not much has been heard lately from a Lincoln sports columnist whose pregame comments, under the headline "Buffs pose no real threat," included: "For all the bad breaks and close calls CU has had against Nebraska, for all the hopeful Colorado media who say the Buffaloes finally will give them reason to wave their faded black and gold pompoms, and for the heart they've shown while erasing the nightmares of 2000, the Buffs can't possibly match the Huskers' penchant for put-up-or-shut-up games." Colorado put up 62 points. The Little Red was shut up.
it's simply amazing what you can find on the internet when you are really bored
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 16:12:02 (EST)

My two cents are: Look, Harlan, I'm going to let you in on a little secret. The board has always been owned by the boys from Cali. We call ourselves the Cali 21. You think MK was real? Ha! You think YOU'RE real? Double-Ha! Don't worry about Pete, he'll be back. He's lurking, pretending this was always about him, waiting for the Cali 21 to tire and leave. His egocentrism has convinced him he is needed. He is not.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 16:10:34 (EST)

My two cents are: This is horrible! It's fine that Pete has gone. I never trusted Glint. crynic is a stand-up guy who is sorely missed as is MK who, like Jeremiah, bowed out due to health issues. I hate to see the board co-opted by the boys from Cali but it looks like that is the case. Sad really.
Harlan St. Wolf
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 16:03:14 (EST)

My two cents are: All of us on the bus figured she'd be working the hospitality suite at the Hawkeye Hotel and Conference Center.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 15:47:50 (EST)

My two cents are: Ladies can't go into an actual Moose meeting, far as I know, and I've worn the antlers forty year,myself. From what I hear, the ladies' auxiliary meets in the Cow Barn, usually a shed scabbed on to the lodge wall that doubles as a Bingo room on Wednesdays. Maybe Stick Woman was planning on taking the Thursday night co-ed Cotton-Eye Joe dance lessons in the big room.
Grand Pilgrim Rock, Orland Loyal Order of Moose
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 15:03:19 (EST)

My two cents are: She never did say what the "gig" in Des Moines was, but we all figured it had something to do with the Order of the Moose convention.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 14:54:19 (EST)

My two cents are: Oh yeah, the weed only smoking policy really steamed her. Every time she lit up a coffin nail, everyone except Montalvo and Dean would shriek in disgust until the driver pulled over and said he wouldn't get back on I-80 until Stick Woman (he gave us all nicknames) stubbed it out. The routine was, she'd take a couple of long drags, blow some smoke rings, then put it out. Said, "If it weren't for this gig in Des Moines, I'd sit here and smoke theal three cartons I packed!"
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 14:50:13 (EST)

My two cents are: If this was the Ann I know, there wouldn't have been any question of "not being allowed" to smoke cigarettes on the Tort. My Ann will burn a choke when she wants, if there aren't any warrented peace officers nearby. Plus she wouldn't touch a sprout with a lawnmower. She's all about fudge ripple and Thousand Islands sauce and veal-and-cheese dishes and Abba-Zabba bars, no veg except arugula and deep-fried artichoke hearts.
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- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 14:43:44 (EST)

My two cents are: She kept eyeballing a little Mexican dude named Montalvo, saying he was the only real man on board, that all the rest of us were girly men. Funny thing is, Montalvo ignored her even when licked her lips and said, "I bet YOU know how to 'splice a cable!'" The only person Montalvo would even talked to was Dean, his bunk mate. They spoke in hushed tones and never really were part of the group. Neither was Ann.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 14:42:25 (EST)

My two cents are: Travelled the last two days and nights riding the Green Tortoise to Des Moines. Spent both nights on a shared mattress with a skinny white chick named Ann. She never slept, bitched about not being allowed to smoke cigarettes while everyone else was toking bud. In the middle of the night she screamed, "Somebody stole my lipstick." When we stopped for lunch at the health food restaurant in Winnemucca, I ordered a tofu sandwich, hold the sprouts. Ann snapped, "I'll take those sprouts!" Never saw anyone dig into sprouts with such gusto. The skinny chick acted like it was Thanksgiving dinner.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 14:20:48 (EST)

My two cents are: Somebody pinched a bunch of my loaf. Got my own pickle jar, though, so I'm all right, Jack.
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- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 14:16:33 (EST)

My two cents are: Take a long, long time if you keep hitting the Apple Jack like that, Stalk.
House of Meat
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 14:14:15 (EST)

My two cents are: Sounds like that Archbishop of Beziers again.
watch out all you Cathars
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 13:14:56 (EST)

My two cents are: E-mail from a few Navy pilots - Kill 'em, kill 'em all!
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 12:49:16 (EST)

My two cents are: Look. It's just a ploy, now that we've revealed our recession plan, which started not long after we spent all that money. The recession plan is WORKING. So is the war plan. It's just a ploy. Bush isn't talking about helping poor people in Afghanistan--what do you think we are, the world's policeman? NOT. You guys are so crazy.
The real Ann
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 12:39:59 (EST)

My two cents are: OK, so we're not IVADING Spain, but we have the Green Light to invade Spain, anytime we need to. Get OVER it.
Ann "Everyone Else Has Turned LIEbral but me did they weaponize it or what?" Coulter
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 12:21:51 (EST)

My two cents are: Okay, so now we're invading Spain. Harbor of terrorists. Get OVER it!!!!!
Ann "It's my Bullet, Buddy" Coulter
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 12:20:01 (EST)

My two cents are: How long is this going to take, HoM?
Laughing Stalk
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 12:12:52 (EST)

My two cents are: Besides, it's not as if I'm the one who suggested that nauseus was the flipside of lamentations. Leave that job to my betters.
Laughing Stalk
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 12:11:37 (EST)

My two cents are: He's done better, but he's rusty. Give it time.
House of Meat
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 12:04:39 (EST)

My two cents are: Yellow jackets, that's another story. They zoom the liquor bottles at the local dump. You could tell a lot from the bottles, if you wanted to, which I don't. Some good liquor, some rotgut but not a lot of it, and none of the real rotgut that smells like yesterday's attempt to clean up the back room at the China Pearl. Not many Chateau Lafite-Rothschild bottles, and meat bees settling on no meat to speak of, certainly none of them longish pacific crab legs, claws, shells.
Laughing Stalk
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 11:55:03 (EST)

My two cents are: False dot. Pretty crappy work, too.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 11:45:27 (EST)

My two cents are: False dot spotted at 11:17:06.
Don't make me do it > .�
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 11:27:20 (EST)

My two cents are: I mean, I try to class up this site, give it a little tell-it-like-it-is verisimilitude, and some pornographer comes on corrupting the story. Find your own story line, Jack, or wait for Purvis.
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- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 11:23:42 (EST)

My two cents are: So, who's the wit?
House of Meat
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 11:20:07 (EST)

My two cents are: The site of a naked white ass made us toss our oars into the drink and start frantically paddling by hand toward her. When she rolled over and saw us she said, "Thank God you're here. It was awful. First they mauled my tits with their hands, it was beastly. Then they finger fucked me and it made me feel nauseus. Then they took turns thrusting their cocks into my mouth while I made gagging sounds. Then they fucked me in the twat and ass and when they got tired of doing that and ran out of juice they broke off this paddle and dipped in bacon grease and shoved it up my ass." We unzipped and said, "Geeze lady, this just ain't your day, is it?"
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- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 11:17:06 (EST)

My two cents are: This guy keeps telling me he can get me a job as a "kicker." He's a pilot, and evidently used to fly CIA airplanes over Nicaragua while guys in the back kicked machine-guns and K-rats out the door. I say "evidently" because this guy honed his story-telling skills when he was in federal prison bullshitting with the other inmates, so I can never tell how much of his rap is true. Like, he told me he used to have a job where he had to row a raft down the Grand Canyon every three weeks to take water samples. One trip he and his partner came upon a tourist raft that had dumped and one of the passengers had a broken-off paddle a foot and a half up her ass. He claimed they had to load her on his raft and row three days with the paddle still up her ass, to get her to the doctor. Then he and my boss went out on a float on a little river near here, and my boss made me come along because he didn't trust the convict to row the raft. Neither one of us believed that he knew his ass from a rubber raft, but it turned out he did. I'm still not sure about the paddle-up-the-ass part, though.
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- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 10:48:31 (EST)

My two cents are: The convict in the next cube, the first thing I noticed years ago was he had plans to line out all the available information on a certain topic. I told him what the info was, in about a minute and a half. But he went on and wrote a clause in his contract to get the info. So for $100,000 the consultant produced a "matrix" listing all the information on that certain topic. We got several boxes of the matrix, all printed up nice with covers. Totally useless. Nobody ever read it, as far as I know, except I looked at it to make sure the minute and a half worth of info was all in it, to make sure that they hadn't missed anything. I think my man has some sort of kick-back arrangement with the consultant, but I don't know because I always change the topic whenever the inter-cube conversation drifts toward potentially indictable areas. If he is, at least it's good to know that one taxpayer is profiting from privatization. Thing is, both the convict and the consultant honcha think what they're doing is useful. If they spent as much time learning which end was up instead of planning how to explain which end is up they'd be a pretty good team.
House of Meat
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 10:41:05 (EST)

My two cents are: By the way, birthday or no, I finished the FY 2001 Accomplishment Report to Congress. Wrote it up in a day and a half and charged three weeks of time to it. Lots of coffee breaks in life for a man who can type fast and cut and paste. Lied through my teeth as per instructions. Compromised more principles than a drunken Indian spouting nature shit to a wasichu. Could have farmed it out to a consultant, of course, for $300,000. We resent Helen Thomas here, anonymous, don't do it again. We suspect her of liberal tendencies.
House of Meat
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 10:33:33 (EST)

My two cents are: Yep, and Ari Fleischer delivered a classic DOINKing to the old bat.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 10:33:23 (EST)

My two cents are: She asked a question, didn't she?
proof
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 10:31:18 (EST)

My two cents are: Helen Thomas is a liberal now?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 10:30:50 (EST)

My two cents are: Meat bees are actually wasps, what you call hornets or yellow-jackets. I think they're Sphenids? That doesn't sound right, and my bug book isn't here. They're in the other big group of wasps besides Vespids. Anyway, they're the yellow-jackets that come around the picnic table and light on the burger meat. Out in nature, they make their living chewing on dead critters, is my guess. An old Indian once told me that he knew it was going to be a wet winter because the meat bees were flying close to the ground. But when you think about it, a meat bee pretty much has to fly close to the ground, because that's where the meat is. On the other hand, the Indian should know, because he's wired into mother earth, when he's sober. Maybe when it's going to be dry, there is something that gives the advantage to the broad vista scanned by a high-flying meat bee. But there I go again, trying to find the vibrations at the edge of the universe. Some things you just know, man, you don't logic them out. There may be no logic on the Lord.
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- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 10:27:05 (EST)

My two cents are: Helen Thomas: Does the President feel the United States has the right to bomb or invade any country harboring terrorists? Is he going to invade Spain? / MR. FLEISCHER: Helen, the President, as I mentioned, is focused on phase one -- / Helen Thomas: Eight suspected terrorists -- / MR. FLEISCHER: The President is focused on phase one of the war against terrorism. But the President has made it plain to the American people that this a long-term war. / Helen Thomas: Answer the question. What right do we have to invade any country? / MR. FLEISCHER: I'm not aware that we are invading Spain.
Helen Thomas, typical Liberal press troll
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 10:24:23 (EST)

My two cents are: So, what was Jeremiah's major problem? What kind of bee crawled up his ass? What species of burr was under his saddle? Hasn't he heard of sticks and stones will hurt my bones but words will never hurt me? It could have been worse. They could have given him a wedgie.
House of Meat
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 10:17:49 (EST)

My two cents are: Yeah, happy birthday, Meat!
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 09:29:57 (EST)

My two cents are: Oh, and happy birthday.
Laughing Stalk
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 09:14:38 (EST)

My two cents are: "I have become the laughingstock of all peoples, the burden of their songs all day long. Thou hast seen the wrong done to me, O LORD; judge thou my cause. Thou hast seen all their vengeance, all their devices against me. Thou hast heard their taunts, O LORD, all their devices against me. The lips and thoughts of my assailants are against me all the day long. Behold their sitting and their rising; I am the burden of their songs".
Lamentaions of Jeremiah 3:14,59-63
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 08:53:59 (EST)

My two cents are: OK, slash is good. Mushrooms good. Birthdays good. What the hell are meat bees?
Archie Mehitabel
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 08:45:06 (EST)

My two cents are: Hey, liberal dude, it's all right, you are not required to read this crap. My strategy is to save it every now and then so I can later strip off the html tags and read it at leisure to remember what life was like back in the day. Or maybe not. The frosting on the cake is the fact that Glint claims to have read everything on fornigate except Clinton's speech, so the poor bastard has to fight his way through it. And I know that Harlan St. Wolf vets it all, looking for socialist deviations that might spell doom if left unquashed.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 00:39:52 (EST)

My two cents are: To be fair to the church-bound preachers, they have to think up something to say every week, a lot like Ann Coulter. And they start out by being dumb enough to believe on the Lord, so it's never a slam dunk.
House of Meat
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 00:36:21 (EST)

My two cents are: So, finally, to cap off this day of omens, there was just a ring at the door and it's an old white-haired yahoo, looks like fucking Liberace without the piano, wants to explain God. The poor old sap is handing out "a special issue, SIGNS of the times: Where Was God? Terrorism in America, is it prophetic? How should we respond?" It's got a coupon it it for what looks like a pretty good course on understanding prophecy, which you get through the mail from Pacific Press down in L.A. There was this low-fidelity Christmas music and I asked the old fart where it was coming from, and it was from the prophecy vehicle out in the street. I didn't look, but it sounded like they had the Pep Boys tape deck turned up to max. You've got to love this aspect of the Christmas season, the old fuckers with 500-watt eyeballs shuffling down the street ringing doorbells and handing out advice on Revelations and how to explain Tragedy to your children. The man was still finishing his spiel as he turned around and shuffled off. I'll tell you, I've been in church services five or six times in my life, plus several times stumbling around the outside of a Catholic mass, and this old asshole at the door was a lot less painful than any of those experiences. Maybe if the church preachers had to stumble down the street to the next doorbell church services would be a little quicker and free of that interminable bullshit. Plus nobody sticks an alms-basket in your face right when you're trying to stifle a snort of atheistic derision.
House of Meat
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 00:33:41 (EST)

My two cents are: I'd like to spend a couple hours going over all of this, Meat, but no can do. Kids, you know. Maybe tomorrow night. Also, I'll be there on the 13th. And, uh, Happy Birthday if I haven't mentioned it already.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 00:29:21 (EST)

My two cents are: I didn't know what a "light box" is either. It was a big piece of framing, made of two-by-eights around the outside, maybe four foot square, with a criss-cross of one-by-two's on one end. Chuey told me it was to put up in the ceiling and put lights behind it, buy some acrylic lens material to smooth out the photons, but it was just too damn big for any room I have. I think I'll take it, though, for the wood. I could try to recess it back into the ceiling over the kitchen, but hat would require all sorts of complicated bracing that I don't want to get into. I could make half of a garden shed with the wood. Chuey tells me he needs the dough because he's going on a trip over the holidays. When I drove up, there was an old tortilla lady out in the garage but she slipped away in fear as I was inspecting the French doors. I went and knocked on the door inside the garage and she popped out and said "what you want?" so I told her I wanted to see her husband. She said she got no husband here, only her cousin Chuey, and then he game out with the glint of avarice in his eye. I'm going to send my convict back to buy the rest of the stuff. Give Chuey another hundred bucks, and he can buy and extra cube of lard for the holiday beans down in Sinaloa.
House of Meat
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 00:21:29 (EST)

My two cents are: By the way, part of the reason Pete� pulled out this last time was probably that he finally figured out that he was out-classed. How many times can the dumbest guy in the room console himself by calling everyone else dumb? Calling other people dumb only works, in the long run, if you're smart. Pete� was just too damned mediocre to keep up. He couldn't have kept up even if he had been right instead of wrong.
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- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 00:07:55 (EST)

My two cents are: So, I been thinking about punching out the back wall past the "formal dining alcove" and putting in a French door giving out on the patio, but the cheapest French doors down at Home Base run $300.00, which, even though I spent as much on paint and tools and beer last month seems like a lot to add a mere $5K or so to the value of the house, particularly when I'm running the rish of overbuilding for the nabe. So the guy in the next cubicle takes off early to meet with some consultants. He's just managed to swindle a million and a half out of the state government to hand to his federal contractors, so he's meeting the contractor woman at his house, and they're going to cook up some horrible waste of taxpayer money. Unlike me, my cube neighbor feels that his job is to manage contracts, and having spent several years in federal prison for something I have managed to avoid learning about he feels right at home with contractors, who are basically criminals unleashed by the Ronald Reagan "privatization" fantasy. They are called "consultants", and their job is to suck huge gobs of money out of the public coffers in return for useless reams of shit called "reports." I have adjusted to this over the past eight or nine years of cubicle-sitting, and I get along with my cubicle neighbor. So, driving home to the meeting, he spotted a house where a Mexican had three French doors plus some windows out on the driveway with a "for sale" sign, and he gave me a jingle on his belt phone after schmoozing the Mec. So I just now went over and bought a nice French door in the frame, with a two or three hundred-dollar entry lockset on it and sprung hinges, and a stack Doug-fir of two-by's for the header and framing, for a hundred bones cash. This Mexican lives on San Juan, which he pronounces sounding the "h", Son Huan, proving that he is a genuine son of the cactus. We loaded the door on my mini and as I was roping it off he offered to sell me the other two sets of doors with hardware but no frames, a huge window, and a "light box" for another hundred. These doors and windows are all double-glazed, that he pulled out of a demo home where he works that they're making into an office. I declined, but think I'll ask my man to swing by and give Chuey the hundred tomorrow while I'm at the dentist telling her I don't have enough dough for the three root-canals she's going to try to sell me. The problem is getting the damn things home, I feel like the Joad family driving through the boulevardes with that stuff roped to the Nissan. But I can use the doors, here and up at the mountain cabin, to replace the sliders, and I can pop the window into the wall of the back bedroom. Sure, it ain't too exciting, but it's as good as sneaking around at night teasing the neighbor's dog.
House of Meat
- Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 00:03:59 (EST)

My two cents are: Guess there wasn't that much in there, after one touches on the idiocy of whoever wrote "thus, at their best, the laws of America embodied an attempt to encode higher, postconventional, worldcentric responses--regardless of race, sex, color, or creed--implemented with the consent of the governed (the moral-stage-5 social contract), even if those laws were developmentally ahead of most of the governed." Can any of you 22 clowns find a useful thought in that plateful of buzzwords and confused soi-disant academic crap? Just for one minor point to consider, why is the word "embodied" in that sentence? What the fuck does it add? And what in the name of God's sweet piss are "higher, postconventional, worldcentric responses?" If you had a few of those I guess you could go into any bar in Cleveland and get laid, right? What a chump, whoever got his credential writing that shit.
House of Meat
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 23:44:17 (EST)

My two cents are: Archie, Archie, Archie. What do you know but slash turns out to be the stuff that's left on the ground after you fall and limb a tree? I guess you could call it the limbs you slashed off. You get a lot of slash out of a bushy old white fir. You can either leave it on the ground to rot away in ten years and make soil, or you can burn it, which might happen anyway. And in the long term, the slash from one forest doesn't make a whole lot of soil-- it takes eons to make soil out of fir trees, which is why the soil under fir trees is usually pretty thin down to the parent material. The neat thing about Friday before it snowed all night was that it was going to be a great mushroom year, there were mushrooms popping up everywhere. I predict that in the spring there will be lots of mushrooms, and the meat bees will fly close. Stay tuned.
House of Meat
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 23:38:15 (EST)

My two cents are: Was going to continue with tonights installment of "Life in the Fast Lane", but there are so many topics in those last five or six posts that need addressing! First, the bleat from politics is, in a word, bassackwards. Elitism in them days, which is still with us, expressed itself in the mouth of a theoretical Continental officer who supposedly told George Washington it was OK to drop cannon balls into his manse because there were lobsterbacks hiding in it. James Otis, about whom we hear very little, was a very influential steaming revolutionary in Boston, almost an SLA character of the day, so off the end that history sort of shuts him out. Thomas Paine comes up from the bottom, as do John Paul Jones, Ethan Allen, in a way Francis Marion, and a whole hotbox of them, including the elitest of the elite, Thomas Jefferson. Did you know that there are a hundred declarations of rights antedating the Declaration of Independence, with almost the same words? Didn't think so. No, it was in the air, not so much because of the Enlightenment, but because people who managed to grab hold to the edge of North America and survive had to be egalitarian from the gut out. Daniel Boone and his pals were over on the other side of the ridge walking the talk all through the Revolution that they never even signed up for-- it was irrelevant to them because they had a whole continent to walk into, shifty-eyed and hiding in the cane-breaks when they had to, and beading in on the people who were already there like so many squirrels when they had to do that part. That's what happens when an elitist gets hold of history, he sees it from the top down, America's ideals imposed on Americans, but it didn't work that way and it doesn't work that way. Look around. For every three fat-assed technocrats tormenting their neighbors' dogs we already have a Mexican shifting for himself and for the people he cares about, and we have Arabs running liquor stores and Koreans selling fruit, and the future comes up from them and not down from the people making the web-sites blink.
House of Meat
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 23:30:41 (EST)

My two cents are: Slash and burn. What some would like to do to the research department that cloned the first human embryo.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 22:32:30 (EST)

My two cents are: Moral stage 5? I don't get it. Does it have anything to do with third level poetry?
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 21:28:51 (EST)

My two cents are: Alright. I'm here now, and I'm asking. Crash and burn? Slash and burn? What the hell is 'slash'?
Archie Mehitabel
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 21:03:45 (EST)

My two cents are: "Thus, in every case of liberalism's noble history, it rode the leading edge of consciousness evolution--an ELITE leading edge, never amounting to more than perhaps 10% of the total population at the time--and yet it found generally benign ways to force its elitism on others . For example, the American Constitution is, for the most part, a moral-stage-5 document--an orange-meme statement, grounded in Enlightenment values. But when that document was written--and eventually implemented as the law of the land--less than 10% of America's population was at moral-stage 5. The brilliance of the Founding Fathers was that they found a way to take this rare, elite stance--demanding equality and freedom for all--and force it on an entire population as the backbone of a series of legal and behavioral codes that demanded that, even if individuals are not at moral-stage 5 in their own interiors, they must conform their exterior behavior to rules consistent with a moral-stage-5 act (e.g., you do not have to love me, but if you shoot me they will lock you up). Thus, at their best, the laws of America embodied an attempt to encode higher, postconventional, worldcentric responses--regardless of race, sex, color, or creed--implemented with the consent of the governed (the moral-stage-5 social contract), even if those laws were developmentally ahead of most of the governed. The legal, judicial, and political structures of the United States thus acted, in their best instances, as both a higher elitist stance imposed on the population at large and a magnet of psychological and cultural development for its peoples, who could grow into the worldcentric values of freedom and equality embedded in and informing the codes. In short, the Constitution was a pacer of transformation --it impressed a set of postconventional, worldcentric, liberal values into the land--but these were not hereditary values or aristocratic values or values given only to a select few and denied to all others: no, they were developmental values--that is, values into which all people could grow : it was an elitism, but an elitism to which all were invited." -- What we are presently experiencing in our society is a counterattack on the Constitution by those in our society who are, in Wilber's terms, at a lower moral stage of development. --Politex, 11/26/01
anti-liberals revealed to be at a lower level of moral development. hey, but that's hardly our experience here at fornigate, eh? hah!
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 20:49:01 (EST)

My two cents are: Spunk. America's secret weapon.
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- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 19:13:34 (EST)

My two cents are: I think Ann Coulter is a spunky chick, taking on the airport security monopoly like that. Who else gives voice to the frustrations of the American domestic air traveler? As a class, these people have been handed a raw deal, and are expected to take the brunt of the War on Terrorism without uttering a peep. And now the airport Cossacks have started stealing jewelry! When our liberty is trampled, it is good to have somebody to speak out against it. It is good to have a chick willing to mount the barricades. I nominate Ann for spunky babe of the week.
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- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 19:10:54 (EST)

My two cents are: Isn't there ham in Laura Ingraham? Another broom rider.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 17:55:32 (EST)

My two cents are: Back in the day, anyone who came on this page talking about poetry other than what was in the Honolulu High syllabus would get doinked. Back then you had to be smart and shifty to survive here. Nowadays, any uncultured yahoo can post.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 17:24:57 (EST)

My two cents are: Who is Laura Ingrahm? Is she that chick who used to host the entertainment TV magazine show with John Tesh? Man, her voice would cause the horses to lame up and the milk-weed to curdle. I heard there was a woman in Tennessee who died from it. I think she's still on one of those shows. She manages to sound like she's shouting even when she whispers. I'll take Leeza Gibbons any time. Leeza. There's poetry in that name.
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- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 17:22:27 (EST)

My two cents are: I'd give her a whole box of bullets for one probe from that schnozz.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 17:18:24 (EST)

My two cents are: Forget her eyes! Admit it, it's the NOSE we all lust for.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 17:08:13 (EST)

My two cents are: " Ann Coulter has beautiful eyes but a voice that rivals fingernails raking a blackboard" -- Anonymous@13:38:46. Nah, you're thinking about Laura Ingrahm again.
Glint
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 16:53:58 (EST)

My two cents are: I sign name. What am to be afraid? Like woman? Feh! I sign name with goat blood on screen!
B'hommad
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 16:38:43 (EST)

My two cents are: Hey, Halibuts. Try this on for size: doink.
bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 16:31:41 (EST)

My two cents are: OK. I'm out.
Halibuts
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 16:30:46 (EST)

My two cents are: By the way, I lament the fact that Harlan and Glint and House of Meat are the only folks left with the balls to sign their own handles. Maybe now that the doinking has died down the rest of you cowards can come out of the closet.
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- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 16:29:43 (EST)

My two cents are: Right. Except for the geeshing, of course. Still acceptable.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 16:28:53 (EST)

My two cents are: I suppose this also means the end to poofing, fooping and geeshing.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 16:28:18 (EST)

My two cents are: But you can have my share of the doinking. Still get nightmares.
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- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 16:27:34 (EST)

My two cents are: This page always survives. Forget about Pete. As long as there are the other 21 of us, who needs him?
Harlan St. Wolf
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 16:27:07 (EST)

My two cents are: If I had any neighbors with pools, I might pull that duck stunt again. I think the bleached gal across the back fence has some sort of pond, and that might work.
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- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 16:26:47 (EST)

My two cents are: Yeah, doinking is fun to watch, anonymous, but have you ever been doinked? I have, and I'm glad that things are now under control and doinking is pretty much a thing of the past. Sure, it toughened you up, but does the world really need more tough guys? I am looking forward to the rebirth of the page as a place to read about slash burning, deviations in local weather patterns, and sneaking around your neighbor's house at night teasing the dog. I have a great faux-duck-in-the-neighbors'-pool story that I'm going to uncork here some time, if the webmaster keeps the barn standing.
House of Meat
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 16:24:33 (EST)

My two cents are: It's a good thing someone saved this page. It leaves open the option of creating a "Virtual Pete."
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 16:11:11 (EST)

My two cents are: No doinking? I'm outta here.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 16:00:10 (EST)

My two cents are: There hasn't been a doinking here for as long as most of us can remember. The doinkers were all hunted out long ago, and the only ones we get wander in from other sites by mistake, and are quickly captured and turned over to the Humane Society.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 15:46:43 (EST)

My two cents are: Is this a Doink-Free Zone?
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 15:43:59 (EST)

My two cents are: True. You'd really have to be living outside the bubble to do that.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 15:02:19 (EST)

My two cents are: If no plane, there's always her broom.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 15:01:22 (EST)

My two cents are: I bet the whole security crew at Spokane International is quaking in its jack-boots as the Coulter retribution machinery cranks up. At least once the Spokanites are disciplined the rest of the airline security folks will be a lot more polite to Ms. Coulter as she flits about the trunk lines following the orthodontist's conventions and state American Legion conferences. She probably won't be hassled in an airport security line ever again. Who would risk a minimum-wage job in this economy, just to shake Ann Coulter's skid-marked panties out in front of a bunch of tired tire salesmen and tourists.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 15:00:14 (EST)

My two cents are: I can't believe that anyone working a reception area would be so unkind as to make Ann Coulter pay for her snotty attitude and uncool squawking. Snotty people have just as much right as the rest of us to courteous treatment by law enforcement officers, security toads, night-club doormen, and retail clerks. Whoever relieved her of her sentimental bullet and chucked it in the trash should be severely disciplined, perhaps by being put at the bottom of the overtime list for a week.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 14:53:01 (EST)

My two cents are: Maybe the Flip bag checkers got wind of her recent screeds.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 14:47:49 (EST)

My two cents are: Why wouldn't a man who loves to sing but refrains from even tapping his toes to the music, lest he enrage God, believe calico cats are signs of Satan?
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 14:46:23 (EST)

My two cents are: I can't figure out whether Ms. Coulter actually threatened to stop flying. She said the only "alternative" was to stop flying, but didn't specify what it is an alternative to. From the text, it seems that it would be the alternative to getting electrical shocks, or maybe to do a study on airline torture-- it's difficult to follow her line of reasoning, as usual. Possibly she just tacked the "alternative" sentence on because she thought it was a punchy way to end the column, and it is not a real threat. Either way, she has left herself plenty of room to weasel out and continue flying, and losing more keepsakes as evil security guards strip her for their Christmas stockings. It's too bad the poor kid can't figure out that they just took the charm because she is so ill-mannered and irritating, and probably chucked it in the trash.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 14:46:16 (EST)

My two cents are: We are odd indeed to think that we alone of all God's creatures are worthy of recognition for I am certain beyond question that when the last day arrives, our company will swell with fox, raven, hare, and rat, and when we are finally admitted we will see sharpening her nails upon His most resplendent throne, God's favorite unrepentant calico cat. -- Mary Margaret Carlisle
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 14:45:07 (EST)

My two cents are: Cats spend two-thirds of their life sleeping which you would imagine would make them unattractive to Protestants who, apparently, since the Reformation have been born with a work ethic. I wish I had a work ethic. In the middle ages the Inquisition associated cats with witches and devil worship. They even tried to torture cats into confessing but they wouldn't talk
This explains Ashcroft
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 14:39:42 (EST)

My two cents are: To find a calico/tortoiseshell male is very rare. This great rarity gave them special value in times past and helped them to avoid the persecution which befell other felines. In Ireland and Scotland, the calico tom was welcomed and believed to bring good fortune. It was a good omen if one decided to settle in your home. In England, some believed that warts could be removed by rubbing them with tail of a calico tom during the month of May. Children were encouraged to play with the tom because it was believed these cats were clairvoyant and that just being near them would allow this ability to be passed on to the human child. The Japanese paid huge sums to take these cats on board their ships, believing that they would protect the ship from storms and the crew from the ghosts of their ancestors.
Tobias lies!
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 14:36:08 (EST)

My two cents are: Regardless of whether or not Ashcroft believes calico cats to be demons or Tobias was just lying because he's secretary on the DNC, the real question is, ARE calico cats the devil? Take it, Glint.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 14:32:04 (EST)

My two cents are: Why do the call them dykes? You can't put your finger in them.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 14:24:13 (EST)

My two cents are: So Ann IS a dyke. Thought so.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 14:23:28 (EST)

My two cents are: Ann was yammering about how Frank Rich wouldn't allow her to sit in the Green Room of some yack show they were each going to be on. So the guy interviewing Ann says, "I'll bet Rich was just afraid of your sexual energy." Ann says, "That would be making an awful lot of assumptions". Host says, "Such as?" Ann says to the (male) host, "I think Frank Rich might be more attracted to YOU than me." The way I count it, that's ONE assumption the host might have been making. What are the others?
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 14:20:44 (EST)

My two cents are: Savage Ann and savage Savage. Bookends.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 14:03:04 (EST)

My two cents are: You're not going to get to feast your eyes on, or hear, this babe by watching the mainstream commie media elites. I heard her this morning, yammering on AM 560 (rightwing HOT TALK - home of Savage.) I think the morning crew likes to interview her every Monday around 7 - 7:30.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 13:55:24 (EST)

My two cents are: Good to see the socialist, Pete, has caved in. It was surprisingly easy. Guess he didn't want to stick around and heap praise on Bush for turning liberal. Would have blown Pete's cover. I'm glad he's gone. He will be back.
Harlan St. Wolf
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 13:52:19 (EST)

My two cents are: Where can I see this Coulter? I've read the writings, now I want to see the flesh and hear the voice. I don't have the cable, but I get the networks, including Fox 40 and Warner's and one that starts with a "P" and has re-runs of Dick VanDyke on it every night playing a doctor-detective. At least I think it's Dick VanDyke.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 13:51:27 (EST)

My two cents are: Those aren't her real eyes either.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 13:46:55 (EST)

My two cents are: That's not her real voice. It's one she worked on to gain acceptance in the lesbian community.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 13:43:25 (EST)

My two cents are: Ann Coulter has beautiful eyes but a voice that rivals fingernails raking a blackboard.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 13:38:46 (EST)

My two cents are: Coulter's a girly man. So, she lost the silver bullet some Aspen dyke gave her? Big deal! Let's see her come here and go mano a mano with Twat Boy.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 13:27:13 (EST)

My two cents are: A lady shouldn't have to withstand the indignities that poor Ann Coulter has endured. Let me know when it happens to a lady and I'll be the first to cry, "Foul!"
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 13:23:03 (EST)

My two cents are: Sure, but SPOKANE??? This chick plays all the big rooms, doesn't she?
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 13:11:39 (EST)

My two cents are: It doesn't matter why Ann Coulter is in Spokane. The important question is how is she going to get back to Connecticut? I don't see her sitting up in the chair car (as we used to call them back in the day), and it is doubtful that she can book a Pullman on such short notice, assuming the Northern Pacific ever made it into Amtrak back when the feds bailed out the railroads by letting them drop the passenger service that they promised to provide in return for half the real estate west of the Mississippi. The possibility of the gray dog has been mentioned, but fat chance. She is either going to rent a car or hire a taxi, but it's going to be tough to get to her next booking on time if it's in Cleveland, and even if she does make it she will arrive frazzled, and the troglodyte pest-control audience will not be able to slake their lust as expected. Can she spell up shit creek without a paddle?
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 12:52:32 (EST)

My two cents are: Missed the big snow up there. It rained the first night, snowed some the second and third, enough for Boreal and Donner to greet the masses on Friday, which is when I left. If there had been any snow at all, would have cross-countried. As it was, I won $50 at the blackjack tables at Hyatt. I'm thinking of opening an account off-shore. T-day dinner at River Ranch on the Truckee.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 12:52:21 (EST)

My two cents are: I tried to take my fish for a walk but all he wanted to do was flop about.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 12:04:57 (EST)

My two cents are: Funny how when you take a dog for a walk he wants to go in front, but when you take your duck he wants to follow along behind.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 11:58:37 (EST)

My two cents are: I took a little pot-bellied pig for a walk once.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 11:38:50 (EST)

My two cents are: I took a dog for a walk once.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 11:30:41 (EST)

My two cents are: Pinched a loaf, eh? Cool.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 10:46:18 (EST)

My two cents are: There was one bright moment in the days spent with the banker's guano machine of a golden Lab. Back when I first asked the retired govey to stop turning his dog off its leash on our property, Gourdon injected himself into the situation crying foul saying how, "he's been walking his dog for 20 years now and you're trying to make him stop! Duh." Of course I was, if for no other reason than the sake of that poor old frail 20 year old dog. (So simple to catch Gourdon in yet another lie.) So, on sunny Thanksgiving Day I took the banker's dog for a walk down along the highway past the front of Gourdon's house. Without being told the dog squatted and left a huge plopper right next to the mail box.
Glint
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 09:56:41 (EST)

My two cents are: Ann Coulter was in Spokane? Why?
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 09:38:33 (EST)

My two cents are: "...Maple Leaf Rag being, of course, the anthem of rag-time..." - Anonymous@23:30:44. I know I kept saying Maple Leaf when I meant to say Weeping Willow. The latter, though less famous, is a much better song -- a moving song if you will. My rag time roots go back to when I was about 14. My budding interest in astronomy had led me to a mentor who taught me all about telescopes, the sky, and what it means to be an amateur astronomer. This fellow Jesse was an old wiry and spry codger in his 80's. Young at heart and energetic. He had cataracts and so I picked up a lot of his equipment that he could no longer use and he helped me to find a used telescope that my paper route could afford. Along with a variety of telescopes in his garage was a large box with pipes. It was his calliope. Turns out he was a rag time piano man who rode the floats of local parades hammering out tunes with the calliope. He claimed that he had known Scott Joplin and the two had played together. Around this time the theme song from the movie "The Sting" was popular so even kids knew who Scott Joplin was. Who can argue with an old man, maybe he did actually play with Joplin. By the time Joplin was old and grey he had probably played with lots of his fans at club meetings and what not. But what I didn't realize at the time was that Joplin had died in 1917, some 55 years prior to my astronomical indoctrination. In any event, at that age I had little interest in music if it wasn't by Steppenwolf or Three Dog Night. However, the rag time seeds were planted deep by Jesse who died a few years later as he approached 90. Those seeds have sprouted in recent years. And so without further ado, here is today's tune: http://www.perfessorbill.com/covers/calliope.htm
Glint
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 09:25:30 (EST)

My two cents are: "...I got the 12-lb maul and whacked off a lot of the extra concrete..." - Anonymous@22:58:55. Reminds me of the time I took out that old clothesline at our previous house. The house came with a clothesline. Although the Mrs. never did use the thing I kept it maintained. Replaced the string when it rotted, etc. However, I used too much tension and over the years each end bowed. When I tried to straighten them up the hollow metal poles snapped so there was about 3" of jagged pole sticking out of the ground. When I tried to remove the stumps I discovered that each pole was set in about one sixty pound bag of sack crete. So the pole stumps stayed for about antother year until one day I decided to dig them up. Dug around the holes and broke a shovel trying to pry the concrete out of the ground. It was a Sears shovel (a Craftsman in fact) so all I had to do was turn in two pieces and get back a one piece shovel from the sales droid. Finally got each footer out of the ground. Talk about over kill, each pole had at least 3x more concrete than necessary. One by one I picked up the concrete anchors and carried them down, in a squat position with bowed back and legs sticking out sideways, carried them down and loaded them into the van and hauled them to the dump. When I got to the dump the "inspector" had a look and said that I couldn't drop off concrete refuse of that size. It needed to be reduced to regulation sized concrete rubble. So I questioned what willy nilly size that might be and was handed a three-paged mimeographed sheets of "County Landfill Use Rules, Regulations, and Guidelines." Under concrete it said concrete could be no larger than "fist size." So I returned home and, in the tradition of Henry David Thoreau, borrowed a sledge hammer from a neighbor and wacked them into golf-ball sized pieces. Loaded the pieces into two trash cans and returned to the dump where they gladly accepted my offering, along with $2 cash.
Glint
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 09:05:17 (EST)

My two cents are: Over the weekend we were watching the banker's dog. Now, this dog is a stupid brainless golden Lab and is high maintenance. I was walking him on the hill around the new forest when he paused to stick his snout down a hole. When I gave a little tug he managed to slip his collar clean off his neck and took off running. Chased him through the backyard of a next door neighbor -- actually the closest neighbor to us -- whom I haven't talked about here before. When he saw me coming he took off continuing down toward the highway and ended up in the Bird Man's back yard. You see the Bird Man has a dog who had been barking out an invite as we were walking around. The idiot Lab was dashing around pissing on the shed, then over to piss on a tree, now he's pissing on the gazebo. The whole time I've been shouting at him and making seemingly idle threats ("You are SO going to get your ass kicked!") The Lab was more generous than I would have liked with his scent. Then as if to say to the other dog, "have a sniff so you'll be able to identify the marks I left," he paused while the Bird Man's dog thrust his snout between his legs. This was the break I was looking for and I put the collar on and then sinched it up really good and tight. I've heard that you should leave it loose enough so that the dog can pull out of it "in am emergency" but we weren't going to be having any more emergencies. I kicked him twice in the ass and gave him a couple of lashes with the leash. After that I didn't have any further problems with him. He was a changed mut.
Glint
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 08:48:21 (EST)

My two cents are: We don't care about Skinny Ann any more, not that we ever did. Anti-women's-oppression-activist Laura Bush has just cast off her seventh veil and been recognized--with all virtual votes voted counting--the virtual president of NOW. Eat that, Rushies who used to be Bushies. Lie-brals RULE.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 08:48:11 (EST)

My two cents are: "...so I asked it the electricity had gone out..." - Anonymous@22:25. Power went out around the neighborhood here Saturday night in the rain. Ours was still on, however we are sort of on the edge. Houses around us have another utility company -- different crew of splicers & the whole works. What this meant was that Gourdon's and Peebody's mercury vapors were zapped as well as that fat ugly troll Rosanne's porch lights were out too. Sometimes when I'm out for a walk Gourdon's brainless dog gets a howling so he flips on the floods. When the rain let up and the pea soup fog dropped down I pulled on a pair of rubber boots and went for a walk. Man, it was pitch black out there cloaked in the shroud of un-illuminated fog. Sure enough, Gourdon's dog started yowling like it had its paw in a bear trap. I just paused by the fence and made growling noises back at it and sudden quick moves that made it yelp and retreat a few paces every time. Finally Gourdon popped out the back door of his garage with a flashlight and was pointing it in every which direction, but by that time I had faded in amongst the Leylands. I continued south, detoured west down to the highway and came back up north along the shoulder in front of Gourdon's house and then cut east back up along the observatory entrance along the north side of hiss house and strolled by the east side of his back yard once more in reprise. By this time the dog, who could hear me shuffling along all three sides of the house was fit to be tied. Out popped the bobbing and swaying flashlight again. It was great fun and the only thing that would have made it better would be if it the skky had been clear in order to take full advantage of the interruption in their wasted whiz of photons.
Glint
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 08:37:59 (EST)

My two cents are: But can he fell the fir so it doesn't fall on my living quarters.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 03:11:43 (EST)

My two cents are: I know a feller who can fall a fir.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 02:46:08 (EST)

My two cents are: Oh, it was nothing much, just a little silver charm from Aspen, shaped like a bullet. But it had great sentimental value, that little silver bullet. It is a little silver charm certainly worth more caterwauling than the Bureau of Prisons listening to the conversations of prison inmates. If law enforcement officers ever dared paw through the belongings of an Egyptian immigrant named Mustaffa with the fascist intensity of airport security stealing my little silver charm in the shape of a bullet the country would go nuts with righteous indignation. I want it back, my little silver bullet, taken from me just to impress the editorial page of the New York Times. This sucks.
Anne "Air Travel is a Tough Town" Coulter
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 02:45:30 (EST)

My two cents are: After the spring thaw I'll be looking for a faller to fell a fir.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 02:38:08 (EST)

My two cents are: change that to "filched by a 'will work for food' lady at the on-ramp."
clear sentences for a clear-thinking pundette
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 02:37:07 (EST)

My two cents are: Ann Coulter prepares to hitch-hike across Nebraska, but cancels the trip when her sentimentally valuable Aspen brooch shaped like a hand-grenade is filched by a woman at the freeway on-ramp holding a "will work for food" sign.
from "Travels with Annie"
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 02:34:39 (EST)

My two cents are: How about that,they've cloned the first human cell. What will General Ashcroft have to say about that. Maybe it does have its drawbacks. He could clone spare body parts for himself and live forever.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 02:30:23 (EST)

My two cents are: Next week: Ann Coulter branches out and complains about conditions at the Grayhound station.
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- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 00:34:12 (EST)

My two cents are: "A security guard took a piece of my jewelry at the Spokane Airport last Saturday with approval from his Olympic Security supervisor. The alert supervisor called airport police when I asked for her name. I want it back. It was a silver charm from Aspen in the shape of a bullet with a great deal of sentimental value. It was given to me by a man in the Glo-Worm Lounge in Cincinnatti with strangely glowing eyes, a cowboy hat, and a huge wad below his belt-buckle. The wad later turned out to be a pair of socks, but even so, not many cowboys hand you a silver bullet from Aspen when you're horny in a Cincinnatti bar! I want it back! And I want a real cowboy, not one of these girly wimps who can't splice a lady's cable or blow up her tire! That bullet meant a lot to me, it had a great deal of sentimental value, and some genuine Cincy DNA! That goddamn Jamaican airport guard is going to give it to some big-lipped bitch with an ass the size of the Liberty Bell, and would give her my lipstick too if it was the right color! Flip the switch to "Danger: Severe Shock" you 1960's Yale bastards! Give me the full 450 volts, you Ivy League suckwad girly-men! Millions of Americans may allow themselves to be treated like convicted criminals for no purpose whatsoever, but this is one thin chick who is going to take the Dog next trip. I've had it up to here with this bullshit! Squawk!
Ann Coulter
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 00:32:41 (EST)

My two cents are: This is all well and good, but what is Klayman up to? Are we in Kansas yet?
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 00:21:16 (EST)

My two cents are: STOP PRESSES!! COULTER TRINKET STOLEN BY AIRPORT SECURITY!!! LIPSTICK NEXT? Ann Coulter column on the latest outrage perpetrated on skinny white chick from Connecticut follow. Contains graphically horrendous material, parental supervision advised: The New Roman Arena: Airports FrontPageMagazine.com | November 22, 2001 IF the airlines had hired the most expensive consultants in the world to try to figure out a way to make the flying experience even more unpleasant than it was before Sept. 11, the consultants would have given up in despair. But chalk one up to American ingenuity: The airlines have done it on their own! Getting a head start on the holiday season, airport security guards have already begun their Christmas shopping by stealing air travelers' belongings. Unless they pilfer possessions worth more to you than making your plane and avoiding an enormous hassle, there's nothing you can do. And the guards know there's nothing you can do, which adds to the innate charm of security personnel. A security guard took a piece of my jewelry at the Spokane Airport last Saturday with approval from his Olympic Security supervisor. The alert supervisor called airport police when I asked for her name. I want it back. It was a silver charm from Aspen in the shape of a bullet with a great deal of sentimental value. But in a strange coincidence, a few hours later, it was missing from the Olympic security box of confiscated loot. It's probably already wrapped. If you are not a half-wit -- and not Christmas shopping from other people's stuff -- you will instantly recognize that a silver charm is a silver charm, and it doesn't matter if it's in the shape of the anthrax virus. Even a real bullet can't cause any harm without a gun. A silver charm soldered to a key chain is less threatening than a tube of lipstick. Of course, my lipstick would undoubtedly also have been deemed a grave security risk by Olympic Security if it had been in the supervisor's color. Since Sept. 11, that silver-charm key chain has been through airport security dozens of times. But security guards are getting nervous. There are only 29 more shopping days till Christmas! There has been more caterwauling about the Bureau of Prisons listening to the conversations of prison inmates suspected of plotting terrorist attacks than to the universal intrusive physical inspections of Americans trying to board airplanes. If law enforcement officers ever dared paw through the belongings of an Egyptian immigrant named Mustaffa with the fascist intensity of airport security patting down little old ladies suspected of flying to Iowa, the country would go nuts with righteous indignation. As long as the airlines insist on going through the manifestly absurd exercise of treating all passengers the same in an obscure desire to impress The New York Times editorial page, the airlines ought to abandon the personal inspections altogether. We can't keep weapons out of prisons; we certainly can't keep them off airplanes -- not even by turning airports into the pleasant and welcoming environment of a federal penitentiary. Indeed, after airport security confiscates any jewelry that might make a nice Christmas gift, the airlines hand out weapons on the planes. They still serve wine in glass goblets that can be smashed to create jagged glass daggers. They still serve soda in cans that can be twisted apart to create razor-sharp knives. They still have emergency exit doors that can be opened during flight, causing the plane to crash. Not to worry, though. If you think about it for up to three seconds, it will occur to you that airports are attractive to terrorists for only one reason: There are airplanes at airports! And what is alluring about airplanes is that they can be turned into cruise missiles or blown up in the air. If terrorists just wanted to kill a bunch of people in one place, they could go to shopping malls, restaurants, movie theaters -- anyplace, really. So why aren't there security guards at shopping malls pawing through our purses and stealing our jewelry? The only safety precaution that will make the planes safer would be impenetrable cockpit doors and bomb checks for luggage -- two security measures airlines doggedly refuse to implement. While still completely vulnerable to another terrorist attack, Americans submit like good Germans to these purposeless airport shakedowns. Most sick, and most predictable, is that some Americans are relishing their new roles as fascist storm troopers. In a famous study conducted at Yale in the '60s by professor Stanley Milgram, members of the public willingly administered what they thought were fatal electric shocks to another human being -- simply because they were told to do so. Believing they were participating in a study on memory, the volunteers watched a "pupil" being strapped to a chair and wired to electrodes. The volunteers were then taken to the next room and told to read questions to the pupil and to administer increasingly powerful electric shocks for every answer he got wrong. The electric-shock buttons appeared to go up to 450 volts and were clearly labeled, "Danger: Severe Shock." The volunteers readily administered the shocks while listening to the pupil cry out in pain. Two-thirds of the volunteers continued to administer the shocks even after the pupil emitted a blood-curdling scream and then suddenly went totally silent, apparently dead. The study was shocking. If asked to do so by an authority figure, a majority of people will kill another person completely unknown to them. It would be interesting to know if professor Milgram advised the airlines on their own fascinating study examining whether millions of Americans will allow themselves to be treated like convicted criminals for no purpose whatsoever. The only alternative is to stop flying.
Oh the horror, the horror...
- Monday, November 26, 2001 at 00:19:37 (EST)

My two cents are: Cuidado, rapaz. Quite frequently it is necessary to let the whole damn page load, and save it. There is no telling when whoever is running Bangcok.com is going to shitcan this appendage.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, November 25, 2001 at 23:40:19 (EST)

My two cents are: And just one last thought. Burning that shit, I was thinking about falling trees, and felling trees. Because I was bucking and decking the fallen trees, and wondered about whether bucking is as problematic to somebody who doesn't know anything about falling trees as is the fall/fell contradistinction. And the thought popped up that Ydog was pretty good at stuff like that, and wouldn't have been checked, and had probably already caught, at some time in his life, the fact that the way tree-fallers talk about their craft and the way English professors and other bubble-dwelling persons talk about it is different. Ydog had a lot of potential, and I feel priviledged to have seen him in action here. Even though he does pop up disguised now and then and try to hand out an undisguisable ration of shit.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, November 25, 2001 at 23:38:53 (EST)

My two cents are: Well, it's pretty dull around here with the liberal guy off wherever he went to, and Glint cowed into posting crap about the football game and Maple Leaf Rag. You know, a good version of Maple Leaf Rag is the one by Rev. Gary Davis, the blind guitar player. Maple Leaf Rag being, of course, the anthem of rag-time and a huge hit that turned the whole world onto that music. DeBussy, as a matter of fact, tried his hand at it, but like any Frog trying to deal with non-Frog rhythms he got it all fucked up. Some people just don't have rhythm that goes beyond that of the clock, and all Frogs fit into that category. If you've ever seen a Frog dancing to the Rolling Stones you would understand. Yet they appreciate it, apparently, and were quite taken with Josephine Baker back in the day, and were always great supporters of jazz and other non-european music. But, man, I've seen your Frog in the heart of black Africa, and where it comes to the boogaloo he just doesn't get it. Another missing personality that changes this site if Pete�, but to tell you the truth, I don't miss him. Sure, Pete� always inspired a lot of banter, but it was a sort of banter that left you feeling soiled. He brought out the worst in everyone, and part of the reason that the interesting people left was the feeling of mild shame that putting down Pete� left you with. I think it was as important as the ugly character of the man's own thoughts. Pete certainly shaped the character of the site, but he was never one of the interesting people. I'm hoping that the Webmaster refrains from pulling the plug because I'm interested in how Glint is going to fare in the new economy, and what kind of clues we might get about what is really happening to him. The difference between Pete� and Glint, beyond the obvious, is that with Glint you know you're dealing with a perception of reality, while you always had to assume that Pete� was lying about everything. I guess that the two guys were here and held on so long because of their political beliefs, such as they were, but there's often a real person in the Glint stuff, where there was never anything but bullshit in the Pete� submissions. Also, of course, Glint has talent in front of the authority of his realism. So I'll stick around, and ultimately have to decode all this crap from out of the html.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, November 25, 2001 at 23:30:44 (EST)

My two cents are: Damn, it looks as if the person with the ascerbic one-liners about gas caps and ravens has tuned out. I drive off without the gas cap every five years or so, but know how to procure a new one without trouble. Sometimes I'll go a long time with an inferior cap, but know that I'll get a really good one by and by. It's sort of like an automotive version of musical chairs, or, if that doesn't quite fit, like a 21st-century version of the "husking bee." You figure it out. A guy I went to school with, from the east coast, dropped by to visit several years ago and told me that where he lived it was against the law to put down your gas cap at a self-service station. You had to hold it in your hand. I suppose this is because the new gas caps are tightly-fitted and sealed, and serve as part of the emissions system, so if you lose one you might drive around for a long time spouting gasoline vapors into the atmosphere. The reason he told me is that he saw me using mine to wedge open the handle on the gas nozzle. Some stations remove the cogs that hold the nozzle open for some reason, so you have to stand there and hold it, and if you have the right size cap you can put it in there and keep the actuating handle open while you clean the windshield or check the oil.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, November 25, 2001 at 23:09:40 (EST)

My two cents are: It was one of those store-bought footings or piers that you buy for a buck and put in the dirt under a post. Whoever built the deck had also poured concrete around it, so it ended up being about all I could lift into the wheelbarrow. I judged that if I stiffened the gut muscles and got the legs underneath it wouldn't fuck my back up, but didn't think that once I got it on the edge of the wheelbarrow that the barrow would topple over and the damn thing would fall on my knee. After gimping around and screaming for a while to ease through the initial pain, I got the 12-lb maul and whacked off a lot of the extra concrete and got it down to a manageable weight and got it into the barrow and rolled it down and dumped it next to the other ones. I looked around for one of those Neoprene knee supports but all I could find was a roll of 2-inch Ace Bandage, which helped a little bit, but not enough to go boogie in town. Stiffens up over night, so that first step in the morning is a painful surprise. I hope it's not one of those injuries that never goes away, like you start getting after a certain age. On the other hand, all these splinters and burns and crinks in the hands that make typing excrutiating are all going to be gone by Wednesday, just like they would be in a teen-ager.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, November 25, 2001 at 22:58:55 (EST)

My two cents are: Only living thing was ravens. Somebody brought in some cats maybe, or it was Joe feeding the foxes then going off to bosnia and leaving them without food, so they ate all the squirrels and chipmunks. Although, come to think of it, there were tracks all over the snow, so plenty of animals out at night. Only thing I saw was ravens though. Heard them, too, squawking like pterodactyls out in the woods. Thursday night was clear so it got cold and the water skim froze on the deck, and the sky was bright with stars, which made me regret not going up there last week for the Leonids. Then later Friday it clouded over and, as reported, snowed at night, although I didn't notice it but only saw it in the morning. Slept upstairs because it was cold, but the snow stuck on the roof so I wasn't clued by slabs of it sliding off. In town I got some gas and also some bronze boat nails in addition to the brass screws. The brass screws admittedly don't look quite right against the sheet copper where I put it to brace the copper-pipe rails, but when everything patin�es up good it will all look pretty much the same. I have a gallon of vinegar up there about ten years old, and I have to admit I rubbed some of it on the copper to see if it would advance the process, but it just left spots, which I sanded off. Just now I realize that the appropriate way to patin� a rain-gutter is with ammonia, so it's no wonder the vinegar didn't work.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, November 25, 2001 at 22:37:05 (EST)

My two cents are: Spent all day Thanksgiving and Friday burning slash and also bucked up a bunch of logs and took them up on the back porch, nice hot fire down there. Nobody much around, just saw Colonel Hal before he took off Wednesday evening and Jay walked down the road once and we waved to each other. Friday night was going into town to hear Mountain Mama but didn't, just read a Custer book and then a book about Sir Richard Francis Burton up to where he gets to Afghanistan after the first invasion and the 16,000 people wiped out trying to get over the Khyber Pass back to Lahore, and went to sleep. At first light I saw there was nine inches of new snow everywhere and a lot more coming down, so I skidded the car down to the road and drove it up to the county road, using the grain scoop to clear out a few spots where I got high-centered. Heavy wet snow, busting trees out in the woods and covering over the slash I didn't get, and the creek where I took out the summer dam on Thursday and washed all the salamanders and Corixid water-bugs downstream. I got some wood out of the snow, but Friday I pretty near busted my kneecap loading a big piece of pier concrete into the wheelbarrow and was limping pretty bad and couldn't do much. Hurts like hell. Later on I drove into town, 25 miles, to buy some brass screws to screw the copper onto the ladder railings. Checkout guy at Ace was saying it was good to have the register going again so I asked it the electricity had gone out and he said "four hours" and looked at me as if I was a flat-lander. Of course my electricity didn't go out, because it's off the grid and can't, unless there's a lightning strike. Went by the saloon for a butter rum and saw they were having a dance that night and was going to go until I remembered that I was limping pretty bad and probably couldn't do the soft-shoe all that good.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, November 25, 2001 at 22:25:18 (EST)

My two cents are: Feed a raven and you have a friend for life.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, November 25, 2001 at 22:15:15 (EST)

My two cents are: Anyone who's never lost a gas cap baffles me.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, November 25, 2001 at 22:12:23 (EST)

My two cents are: Got me a five-dollar 13-lb turkey at Safeway, cooked it up full of stuffing, had a can of cranberries and a package of those Dinner Rolls that you heat up in the oven, and a stick of butter, and and 89-cent package of Manor House Brown Gravy that you mix with water. The rest of the family was off visiting its girl-friend at Columbia, so I ate this alone Thursday, and Friday and Saturday as well. Last night I cut the other breast off and took out the crop stuffing and bagged it, and flung the turkey off down the ravine, and chunked the leftover eggs after it. The turkey rolled up agains an old cedar log that the loggers culled, a log about 40" dbh that smells like pencils when you whack it with an axe, and this morning when I went down to get some lumber out of the garage there was a raven rose up squawking off the carcass. Went down to chuck it over the log on down to the wash and it was all torn up, drumsticks gone, meat picked off. One of the drumsticks was on the downhill side of the log. Maybe a fox or fisher lugged it around there, but my best guess is that the raven took off with it and couldn't keep hold of it, like every now and then you'll see a kestrel drop a field mouse or a snake.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, November 25, 2001 at 22:10:02 (EST)

My two cents are: Why anyone would drive off and lose a gas cap baffles me, the same way cat carpers do.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, November 25, 2001 at 22:03:42 (EST)

My two cents are: Gassed up in Orland, and left the gas cap, drove all the rest of the way with the door over the gas inlet flapping in the wind. Don't bother me, though, because it was just a gas-cap I picked off the top of a pump after the last time I lost a cap. Usually when you notice yours missing you go ask the cashier I she found your gas cap and she shows you a box of about fifty of them, take your pick. Why anyone would buy a gas cap baffles me, the same way calico cats do.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, November 25, 2001 at 21:59:39 (EST)

My two cents are: Not to worry, General Ashcroft. The gingham dog ate the calico cat.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, November 25, 2001 at 21:56:53 (EST)

My two cents are: All afternoon driving with a bunch of bumper-stuck yahoos all going 80-90. I hunkered in the slow lane with the trucks, which were all going 70-75, which must be flat out. Never saw one Highway Patrol the whole way. They're all out guarding the bridges of something. This reminds me of Rick Duisenberg's brother, who spent the years when we were in high-school out in the back yard, guarding it against the birds with a BB gun. Every now and then around Christmas he'd take a day off and spend it staring at the twinkle-lights.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, November 25, 2001 at 21:55:54 (EST)

My two cents are: (I could buy the Ashcroft story. The man looks like Janet Reno after a gang-shag. He got a deep hollow fear in his eyes, and hatred, and bafflement, and a pointy nastyness. This looks like a man who might be afraid of calico cats. I myself don't even know what the fuck a calico cat is, though I've been hearing about them at least since kindergarten.)
Anonymous.
- Sunday, November 25, 2001 at 21:52:21 (EST)

My two cents are: What happened down here? Tree branches busted off all along the street, clocks all blinking at 10:05, the plastic shit I put over the back patio to keep the rain running right all tore out and flung about. Wind, yes, but was there snow? Snowed up a shitstorm where I was. Didn't think I'd get out.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, November 25, 2001 at 21:49:48 (EST)

My two cents are: Andrew Tobias... is Treasurer of the Democratic National Committee.
http://www.andrewtobias.com/about.html
nuff said about THIS cat carper, - Sunday, November 25, 2001 at 21:49:15 (EST)

My two cents are: Why poor Glint? He seems satisfied with himself.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, November 25, 2001 at 21:47:28 (EST)

My two cents are: Time check.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, November 25, 2001 at 21:46:38 (EST)

My two cents are: Poor Glint.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, November 25, 2001 at 21:46:31 (EST)

My two cents are: Pete, pal. Are you there? I just stumbled onto this little Scott Joplin number that I have never heard of before. It's a selection from his 1911 rag opera "Treemonisha" entitled "The Corn-Huskers Dance." http://www.geocities.com/pfw8015/rags/cornhuskersdance.mid
Glint
- Sunday, November 25, 2001 at 21:43:03 (EST)

My two cents are: Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Sunday, November 25, 2001 at 21:41:49 (EST)

My two cents are: http://www.andrewtobias.com/newcolumns/011120.html
Anonymous.
- Sunday, November 25, 2001 at 21:12:45 (EST)

My two cents are: Not really. Just think about it and ask this. If the story is true, that is there really are "cats in residence" at the American embassy in the Hague, wouldn't that be grounds for legitimate griping? I don't know what condition your own cubicle is in, but most people would object to there being "cats in residence" in their office space. You see they shed their hair which winds up between the keys and on the telephone mouthpiece and they make holes in the chairs when they sharpen their claws. But on the other hand, there is no citation given for the story, so one may properly assume that this story is bogus and the product of a fertile mind who has run out of thing to criticize in the Bush administration. All that is left is carping about cats.
Glint
- Sunday, November 25, 2001 at 20:18:07 (EST)

My two cents are: Now that Pete has surrendered, it's all up to Glint. That last post looks like he's adopting Pete's incoherence.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, November 25, 2001 at 19:42:48 (EST)

My two cents are: ?
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- Sunday, November 25, 2001 at 19:16:47 (EST)

My two cents are: B.S. and F.U.D. courtesy of the Liberal mind.
Glint
- Sunday, November 25, 2001 at 18:45:07 (EST)

My two cents are: All calico cats should be brought before the tribunal and secretely exterminated.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, November 25, 2001 at 14:57:30 (EST)

My two cents are: Evil is in the eye of the beholder. Evidently Ashcroft beholds a lot of evil.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, November 25, 2001 at 14:53:23 (EST)

My two cents are: "Shortly after becoming Attorney General, John Ashcroft was headed abroad. An advance team showed up at the American embassy in the Hague to check out the digs, saw cats in residence, and got nervous. They were worried there might be a calico cat. No, they were told, no calicos. Visible relief. Their boss, they explained, believes calico cats are signs of the devil. (The advance team also spied a statue of a naked woman in the courtyard and discussed the possibility of its being covered for the visit, though that request was not ultimately made.) andrewtobias.com
Anonymous.
- Sunday, November 25, 2001 at 14:13:19 (EST)

My two cents are: Take no prisoners. If we have more riots like the one reported at Kunduz we can solve a lot of problems.
Glint
- Sunday, November 25, 2001 at 14:03:27 (EST)

My two cents are: Have a couple more melodies to add to the set of songs for the unemployed: (4) Nina Simone's version of "Nobody wants you when you're down and out" by J. Cox, and (5) Buster Benton's rendition of "Money is the name of the game" by Johnny Thompson. <> Perhaps this e-mail indicates another shot at interplanetary space travel could be in the cards: "DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL. By replying to this email you will NOT contact the firm who has viewed your resume. Your online resume at C****************.com was viewed as part of a skills search hit on the keyword 'Mars' on 11/23/2001." Here is your song of the day for today - http://www.perfessorbill.com/covers/strstrps.htm
Glint
- Sunday, November 25, 2001 at 12:45:54 (EST)

My two cents are: Anyone who hides in an airplane during a terrorist attack would certainly cancel holiday tours at the mansion during Christmas season. Maybe he's afraid someone might try to light him instead of the tree.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, November 25, 2001 at 01:27:51 (EST)

My two cents are: Quote below by Rep. John Conyers, Ranking Member of the House Judiciary Committee, Nov. 16, 2001
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 24, 2001 at 21:48:04 (EST)

My two cents are: On October 31st, the Attorney General issued regulations permitting the Department of Justice to unilaterally intercept attorney-client phone calls. "On November 9th, the Administration announced a policy of ethnic profiling by which it would discriminate in granting visas to men from middle eastern countries and target 5,000 Arab male visitors for intensive questioning. Surely in 21st Century America we can do better than saying than if you are Arab you are a suspect. "Finally, on November 13th, the Administration announced the creation of secret military courts to try immigrants and other foreigners for terrorism offenses. Collectively, the Administration has swept away the independent judiciary, the right to a public trial, the right to an appeal, the right to counsel, due process, equal protection and habeas corpus. "Not bad for two week's work."
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 24, 2001 at 21:45:03 (EST)

My two cents are: Too bad Pete's not here to share this wonderful moment. America is behind the 'Buffs and joyous to see the overrated, arrogant Cornhuskers so soundly thrashed and exposed for the lame team it is.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 24, 2001 at 20:14:01 (EST)

My two cents are: OMAHA, Neb. -- Talk about perspective. Nebraska fans now know how it feels to be the Cornhuskers' usual opponent. The Huskers' hopes of a Big 12 and national championship disappeared Friday in a 62-36 loss at Colorado. "This is unbelievable, isn't it," said Fred Suarez, a National Parks worker watching the game at Pauli's sports bar. Other shocked Husker faithful simply sat shaking their heads as the defense gave up the most points ever. "I was sick," said Mick Roenfeldt, watching the game at The Touchdown Club in North Platte. "We were going to go to the Big 12," said 31-year-old Shannon Haney, referring to next Saturday's league championship game in Dallas. Kristin Rishel, 31, sat beside her at DJ's Dugout, staring blankly at the television screen. "I'm so sad," she said. Even though devastated by the loss, some fans were generous in their praise of the Buffalos. "Give it to Colorado. They just schooled Nebraska," Matt Kroll, 23, said. At the Ice House in northwest Omaha, Katie Sevening wondered what happened to Nebraska's defense. "You could have drove a truck through the holes," Sevening said. Steve Meinhold, 45, thought the Cornhuskers had a miracle finish in them until Dahrann Diedrick fumbled on the 1-yard line with Nebraska trailing 42-23 midway in the third quarter. "I think Nebraska had a chance to comeback until that point," Meinhold said. "I just thought they were really outplayed badly." Mike Bellew at the Touchdown Club was at a loss for words. "It's kind of like, well, Nebraska... I don't know. I don't know what happened," Bellew said. "I've never seen anything like this in the whole time I've watched Nebraska football and that's been since 1957," he said.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 24, 2001 at 14:54:24 (EST)

My two cents are: Hitler youth were sadly unable to be good little socialsits because they were much too busy being good little fascists, like me. Have you seen my blacklist lately? Next, I'm getting ready to wrap up Dick's turban for him!
Lynney Cheney
- Saturday, November 24, 2001 at 09:38:56 (EST)

My two cents are: Yes, I know it's hard to believe, but yes, that's the same game Anonymous@23:59. It was like 1990 all over again -- only worse, much much worse. Oh the humanity! <> Sounds like those hitler youth were trying to be good little socialists. Aren't they cute!
Glint
- Saturday, November 24, 2001 at 08:50:55 (EST)

My two cents are: "Ken Kesey's 1962 novel, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest , provides an illustration of the totalitarian aspiration.... not simply to deprive the new Soviet man (sic) of his freedom, but to make him fear freedom in favor of security, and to affirm the goodness of his chains even in the abscence of coercion." The End of History and the Last Man by Francis Fukuyama p 24
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 24, 2001 at 00:09:04 (EST)

My two cents are: http://www.huskerfootball.com/huskers?story_id=788&past=
is this the game you guys are talking about?
- Friday, November 23, 2001 at 23:59:34 (EST)

My two cents are: http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/hitleryouth/hj-beginnings.htm
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 23, 2001 at 23:50:07 (EST)

My two cents are: "AmeriCorps faced strong Republican opposition, but over time the program has become popular, and earlier this month, President Bush, the most important conservative in the land, embraced it. His initiative calls for thousands more volunteers to help with homeland security. Bush's proposal would change the character of the program. Until now, AmeriCorps volunteers have generally devoted their efforts to helping the underprivileged, the sort of community service that today's high school and college kids do at such phenomenal rates. (As one professor famously quipped, ''I don't know where these kids find lepers, but they find 'em and they read to 'em.'') But homeland security is a law-and-order function, not a welfare function. It involves surveillance and control, not love and compassion. It's Clint Eastwood, not Alan Alda. The ethos that these volunteers will have to adopt is militaristic, and their activities will not be like the service the kids are performing now. And Bush's proposal is modest compared with the bill from Senators John McCain and Evan Bayh, which would eventually quintuple the size of AmeriCorps, to 250,000 volunteers a year, and would also enlist volunteers to help with homeland security and to respond to emergencies and national disasters. The McCain-Bayh bill is explicitly designed to give AmeriCorps volunteers the sort of tough, character-building challenges that previous generations experienced in the military. Young people accustomed to living in dorm rooms with refrigerators could find themselves sleeping in barracks and wearing uniforms. There would also be an 18-month active-duty enlistment option, even for people who didn't plan on making a career in the military. National service has always been about changing American culture as much as performing concrete tasks. Its proponents hope the program will help bind a nation that sometimes seems on the verge of fragmenting along ethnic lines. Other supporters see national service as an antidote to materialism; it takes kids out of the normal self-obsessed world of career and consumption and orients them toward service and citizenship. The program's size would make it a rite of passage for many, an institutionalized way to give something back to the nation. But the most pronounced shift, since Sept. 11, is that kids brought up in a world of harmony would be put in a world of conflict. Today's children, raised in the religion of self-esteem, with everybody telling them how wonderful they are, would suddenly face drill sergeants reminding them they are nothing without the group. Kids who have been taught to think for themselves would have to learn to defer blindly to authority. Kids raised on John Lennon-style ''Why Don't We All Just Love Each Other?'' anthems would suddenly spend their days tracking down bad guys and throwing them in jail. The ethos of the training base or the police academy really differs from the ethos of the university dorm. The military virtues -- duty, honor and courage -- differ from the peacetime campus virtues -- tolerance, inquisitiveness, compassion. If AmeriCorps does expand, and if it becomes more paramilitary, then there really will be a cultural shift among the nation's youth. American history will have achieved some sort of rhythmic perfection. The G.I. generation gave birth to the tie-dyed generation, which gave birth to the black-T-shirted Internet generation, which will have given birth to the khaki-clad homeland-security generation in steel-tipped boots." ttp://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/25/magazine/25IDEALAB.html
idealistic youth <[email protected]>
- Friday, November 23, 2001 at 23:48:20 (EST)

My two cents are: In true Fornigate style all quitters lurk.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 23, 2001 at 23:46:21 (EST)

My two cents are: N E W * F E A T U R E *** A U R O R A * B O R E A L I S * P I C S ***** http://members.fortunecity.com/fornigate/glint/aurora.html
Glint
- Friday, November 23, 2001 at 21:28:21 (EST)

My two cents are: I don't know about that. Colorado was properly ranked while Nebraska was overrated. These teams play pussy schedules. The Nebraska QB throws more interceptions than TDs and the team is as exciting as oatmeal.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 23, 2001 at 21:03:51 (EST)

My two cents are: In other words, both teams suck.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 23, 2001 at 20:26:49 (EST)

My two cents are: Colorado had a lot of good plays both running and passing. The aptly name Chris Brown had what, six touchdowns? As I said before, http://www.ericas-designs.com/songs/Wheels.mp3
Glint
- Friday, November 23, 2001 at 20:15:33 (EST)

My two cents are: Definitely Cornhuskers sucked today, including me - two six packs of German beer. The symbolism of the corn nuts is easy enough to see. The German brew is for the forefathers who settled the old country and took up the homesteads, the plow, and the ox. The good stock the volks auf der Fadderland und das good bier ya!
Glint
- Friday, November 23, 2001 at 20:10:53 (EST)

My two cents are: In other words, it's not just ONE team that sucks. They both do!
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 23, 2001 at 20:05:01 (EST)

My two cents are: I must accept blame for the Cornhusker's loss. I was ready with the customary German beers. Dinkel dark and Verum beers. But try as I might I could not find corn nuts anywhere. Oh sure, I found some jalapeno chips and pretzels. And the wife tried to placate me by whipping out a can of mixed nuts for me. Mixed nut! I knocked the can out of her hand and the nuts were out of the can, so to speak. "Who are we rooting for?" I demanded. Since when have we been fans of the almond husekrs? Are you a secret filberts fan? I wondered. And what about those Brzail nuts honey? You know, the ones you call the N_____ toes? It was the lack of corn nuts that led to Nebraska's humilation and a 62-30 loss to (boo hoo hoo) Colorado, those mile high dopers. I know the score. I remember the acid trips at Folsom field rocking to the Stones and the Peter Tosh and the Reggae. Anyway, this Dinkel's for Pete! Bottoms up, my fair man! Your team has taken the North in a most unamibiguous manner.
Glint
- Friday, November 23, 2001 at 20:04:48 (EST)

My two cents are: Thanks Glint, Aloha.
Pete�
- Friday, November 23, 2001 at 20:04:27 (EST)

My two cents are: Prte, congratulations in advance for an stunning upset. CU came out like gang busters in the 1st quarter. Glad I didn't make that bet!
Glint
- Friday, November 23, 2001 at 19:53:08 (EST)

My two cents are: Yeah, an end to that war. Trouble is there's always a new one awaiting birth.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 23, 2001 at 14:15:46 (EST)

My two cents are: "The reason we start a war is to fight a war, win a war, thereby causing no more war!" --The first Presidential debate
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 23, 2001 at 13:11:58 (EST)

My two cents are: "I don't remember debates. I don't think we spent a lot of time debating it. Maybe we did, but I don't remember." --On discussing the Vietnam War as an undergraduate at Yale, in the Washington Post, July 27, 1999
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 23, 2001 at 13:11:18 (EST)

My two cents are: "There ought to limits to freedom" --at a Press conference at the Texas State House, May 21, 1999, referring to GWBush.com
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 23, 2001 at 13:09:53 (EST)

My two cents are: "If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier...just as long as I'm the dictator..." --Washington, DC, Dec 18, 2000, during his first trip to Washington as President-Elect
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 23, 2001 at 13:08:21 (EST)

My two cents are: Does anyone care?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 22, 2001 at 18:11:59 (EST)

My two cents are: I really don't think this needs to be said but the Post on November 19, at 23:06:08 wasn't me. Nice to hear from you Whatever, Congratulations! Happy Thanksgiving to all of you.
Mary
- Thursday, November 22, 2001 at 14:41:40 (EST)

My two cents are: The born-again lie-bral president* SnippyKennedy gave his Thanksgiving address, exhorting us to care for the poor, the oppressed, and so on. God, it's good.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 22, 2001 at 13:02:58 (EST)

My two cents are: Kill. Kill them all. God will know his own.
Archbishop of Beziers
- Thursday, November 22, 2001 at 11:17:59 (EST)

My two cents are: Those kids should be sprayed with Roundup. Goes right to the root of the problem.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, November 22, 2001 at 01:03:19 (EST)

My two cents are: acid trip

- Wednesday, November 21, 2001 at 21:21:43 (EST)

My two cents are: ....I'm just sitting here watching the stars go round and round I really love to watch them rise The Earth is just a merry-go-round...
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 21, 2001 at 20:14:56 (EST)

My two cents are: Must have been a liberal judge. This kind of lenient sentences is the root problem with why kids these days are constantly terrorizing old people from sea to shining sea.
Glint
- Wednesday, November 21, 2001 at 19:48:38 (EST)

My two cents are: What constitutes a terrorist? Who can be charged with terrorism?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 21, 2001 at 16:32:43 (EST)

My two cents are: Teens charged with terrorizing bingo players with squirt guns take a plea bargain By Associated Press, 11/21/2001 14:29 HOUMA, La. (AP) Three teen-agers charged with terrorizing bingo players with squirt guns have struck a plea bargain requiring them to write an essay titled ''Why I'm Proud to Be an American.'' Under the deal, the terrorizing charges were dropped and the three 18-year-olds pleaded guilty Tuesday to simple battery. Each must write a 3,500-word essay, perform 48 hours of community service, speak to an eighth-grade class about their experiences in jail and write a letter of apology to the bingo players. Chad Leblanc, Woodrow Straley and Clint Walker burst into a bingo hall on Oct. 15 and sprayed 10 players with large squirt guns. Police said the teen-agers created ''a near panic'' among 175 players who feared the prank was connected to the Sept. 11 terrorists attacks or anthrax scares.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 21, 2001 at 16:23:42 (EST)

My two cents are: http://www.guitarsarah.com/LivingA.mp3
Judas Priest!
- Wednesday, November 21, 2001 at 13:26:30 (EST)

My two cents are: Here's a little dance number for Tom: http://www.perfessorbill.com/covers/rtdance2.htm Thought he might enjoy the lyrics too, and if he follows the instructions it might help him with the oreos: http://www.perfessorbill.com/lyrics/lyragdnc.htm
Glint
- Wednesday, November 21, 2001 at 13:13:03 (EST)

My two cents are: More signs of cover art plagiarism by the once grateful [now gratefully] dead. http://www.perfessorbill.com/covers/tedybear.htm
Glint
- Wednesday, November 21, 2001 at 12:50:24 (EST)

My two cents are: So Meat, what are your feelings about the 2nd amendmet?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 21, 2001 at 12:39:03 (EST)

My two cents are: Apologies and that, but if I'm going to avoid the tree-hugger frame these troglodyte scamps have been trying to hang on liberalism I've got to leave pretty soon and get up to the woods, burn that slash and buck them trees. Got a great little storm coming through, rain like a bull piss in a bucket, maybe snow come down to the survival freehold when the cold front comes through. Maybe stoke up the musket-gun and shoot some Pyrodex� off at night, see the flames since I was in town for the Leonids and didn't see a one. Or maybe go shoot some quail, Thanksgiving tradition, except the last time I swore off, mountain quail just flying up in a tree and down to the ground like a shooting gallery, meat on the wing but the gruesome aspects of the sport became too apparent. When that happens you're half-way to hugging trees, so maybe I better get out there and kill something.
House of Meat
- Wednesday, November 21, 2001 at 12:18:07 (EST)

My two cents are: Ho-Hum, you there today? Here is a patriotic song selected especially for you > http://contexas.com/pats/In%20the%20navy.mid
Glint
- Wednesday, November 21, 2001 at 12:12:04 (EST)

My two cents are: music: http://www.perfessorbill.com/midi/batlhymn.mid; words: http://www.perfessorbill.com/lyrics/lybtlhym.htm; May we all join together? A one, a two, a three....
Glint
- Wednesday, November 21, 2001 at 11:35:00 (EST)

My two cents are: Pete, in honor of your team. Good luck on Friday. http://www.perfessorbill.com/covers/buffalo.htm
Glint
- Wednesday, November 21, 2001 at 11:25:34 (EST)

My two cents are: Yeah, Geraldo's full of himself as usual. Typical report goes something like this: Fox Anchor: "So Geraldo, can you tell us about what is going on in Kabul?" Geraldo: "Yes, thank you. As you know I left my cushy talk show on one of the other cable networks so that I could come here and cover the war. You know, this is the sort of job I've always dreamed about. I have always been a war correspondent and I'm still rather buff, if I may say so. Back to you. Geraldo Rivera, reporting from Kabul, Afghanistan"
Glint
- Wednesday, November 21, 2001 at 11:24:01 (EST)

My two cents are: At last, Geraldo has liberated the Fox News Network. Even better than Snippy Kennedy sending Ashcroft to laud the rest of the Kennedy clan at the naming of the RFK building. Soon even Ashcroft will be a Kennedy.
Glitch
- Wednesday, November 21, 2001 at 11:23:54 (EST)

My two cents are: At last, Geraldo has liberated the Fox News Network. Even better than Snippy Kennedy sending Ashcroft to laud the rest of the Kennedy clan at the naming of the RFK building. Soon even Ashcroft will be a Kennedy.
bwa hahahahaha
- Wednesday, November 21, 2001 at 11:21:15 (EST)

My two cents are: Here's a dedication. To my vilE puss pot from your friend peekin' behind the pineapple --- http://www.perfessorbill.com/covers/bmns.htm
Glint
- Wednesday, November 21, 2001 at 11:19:42 (EST)

My two cents are: At last, Geraldo has liberated the Fox News Network. Even better than Snippy Kennedy sending Ashcroft to laud the rest of the Kennedy clan at the naming of the RFK building. Soon even Ashcroft will be a Kennedy.
bwa hahahahaha
- Wednesday, November 21, 2001 at 11:16:11 (EST)

My two cents are: Pete, are you out there anywhere? Here's a patriotic rag just for you. Let's roll! http://www.perfessorbill.com/covers/usarmy.htm
Glint
- Wednesday, November 21, 2001 at 11:01:16 (EST)

My two cents are: This 1904 cover is quite interesting. I always wondered where the Grateful Dead stole their inspiration from. http://www.perfessorbill.com/covers/carbrlk3.htm
Glint
- Wednesday, November 21, 2001 at 10:54:26 (EST)

My two cents are: Here is some good classic American piano blues: http://www.perfessorbill.com/covers/wearybl.htm
Glint
- Wednesday, November 21, 2001 at 10:48:03 (EST)

My two cents are: This version of Weeping Willow is played perfectly: http://www.perfessorbill.com/covers/willow.htm
Glint
- Wednesday, November 21, 2001 at 10:38:43 (EST)

My two cents are: Still a little too fast for my taste: http://www.ragtimemusic.com/midifile/weepingw.mid
Glint
- Wednesday, November 21, 2001 at 10:10:06 (EST)

My two cents are: Here's one for which I offer you the following alternative lyrics >>> Spring is here, a-suh-puh-ring is here. Life is skittles, And life is beer. I think the loveliest time of the year is the spring. (I do. Don't you? 'Course you do!) But there's one thing that makes spring complete for me, And makes ev'ry Sunday a treat for me. All the world seems in tune on a spring afternoon, When we're poisoning ground hogs on the hill. Ev'ry Sunday you'll see my sweetheart and me, As we poison the ground hogs on the hill. When they see us coming, The critters all try an' hide, But they still go for Decon When coated with cyanide. The sun's shining bright, Ev'rything seems all right, When we're poisoning ground hogs on the hill. We've gained notoriety, And caused much anxiety In the Humane Society With our games. They call it impiety, And lack of propriety, And quite a variety Of unpleasant names. But it's not against any religion To want to dispose of a wood chuck. So if Sunday you're free, why don't you come with me, And we'll poison the ground hogs on the hill. And maybe we'll do in a squirrel or two, While we're poisoning ground hogs on the hill. We'll murder them all Amid laughter and merriment, Except for the few We take home to experiment. My pulse will be quickenin' With each drop of strych'nine We feed to a wood chuck, (It just takes a smidgin!) To poison a ground hog on a hill.
http://www.armory.com/~keeper/1/poispige.html <[email protected]>
- Wednesday, November 21, 2001 at 09:46:09 (EST)

My two cents are: Here's a song about one of my heros, complete with lyrics so that you can sing along: http://www.armory.com/~keeper/1/wernvonb.html
Glint
- Wednesday, November 21, 2001 at 09:37:57 (EST)

My two cents are: Yo, Pete! Here's a peppy tune that will perk up the people in your office! It's Scott Joplin's one and only Pineapple Rag: http://www.armory.com/~keeper/1/PineAppl.html
Glint
- Wednesday, November 21, 2001 at 09:34:34 (EST)

My two cents are: This version of the Maple Leaf is being played *way* too fast (especially for use as a dirge): http://www.armory.com/~keeper/1/WeepWill.html
Glint
- Wednesday, November 21, 2001 at 09:32:01 (EST)

My two cents are: Ydog, Ydog where have you gone? I haven't seen you since February, I've got the Yellow Dog Blues.
http://www.armory.com/~keeper/1/YelloDog.html <[email protected]>
- Wednesday, November 21, 2001 at 09:25:19 (EST)

My two cents are: http://www.ericas-designs.com/songs/Wheels.mp3
Loads slow but it's worth the wait <[email protected]>
- Wednesday, November 21, 2001 at 09:13:16 (EST)

My two cents are: Correction: Track 8 on the Scott Joplin disc is the "Weeping Willow Rag," not the "Maple Leaf Rag." The latter is a fine song, but the Weeping Willow Rag is a real tear jerker. I consider it to be a good choice for use at a funeral. Although I've never heard it played at one before I am considering using it myself someday. :-)
Glint
- Wednesday, November 21, 2001 at 09:09:39 (EST)

My two cents are: I've decided that for safety's sake it is better not to drive listening to Judas Priest. Not that I'm spending much time driving these days, but the Priest tends to awaken the agressive driver in a person and therefore has been archived into the chamber of the CD juke on THE sound system. Better when behind the wheel to be listening to the soothing rag melodies of Scott Joplin. The only time one of these threatens safety on the highways and byways is when the eyes mist over each time track 8, the "Maple Leaf Rag," rolls around. I'm back to digging the tunes I've come to appreciate during these extended vacations or periods of temporary retirement referred to by the lay person as unemployment. Included in this collection of renditions applicable in the current situation is (1) "Proud Mary," by CCR; (2) "Keep on Rocking me," by the Steve Miller Band; and my theme song (3) John Lennon's "Watching the Wheels". Mixing it up with some Howlin' Wolf, Frigid Pink, and Ray Charles in there too. Here's an interesting version, and it loads pretty fast too: http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/spicegirls/273/keep_on_rockin_me.mid
Glint
- Wednesday, November 21, 2001 at 09:04:54 (EST)

My two cents are: Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 21, 2001 at 08:58:04 (EST)

My two cents are: http://members.fortunecity.com/fornigate/
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, November 21, 2001 at 02:37:30 (EST)

My two cents are: By the way, Tom, you can see pix of that sweet lady on Glint's fornigate web page. If you ask him nice he might post the URL. I don't have it in my bookmarks or I'd do it myself. But beware, kid. She'd eat you up like a Moon-Pie and spit you out onto the drain-grate. If her fianc� didn't pound you into the dirt like a nail first. With tight women like that you have to understand your limits. If you can dance pretty good and have a suit tailored in London or bought off the rack in Florence she might give you a few minutes on the floor, if you aren't as ugly as most guys from Bakersfield. Go to it, kid. Air tickets to Boston are cheap this season.
House of Meat
- Wednesday, November 21, 2001 at 00:03:47 (EST)

My two cents are: Yo, Tom, in your dreams. The closest you'll ever come to that fine Oreo cookie is a rolled-up Playboy. It's nice to see a kid with aspirations, though. You ought to read that story about the votes a little closer, though. It says that Gore won the election. Water under the bridge, man. We got the bandy-legged little dude now, the little squirt who's afraid of a forty-pound turkey. Al Gore may be an asshole, but you can bet he's hung a turkey before, being turned out to the farm for a stint when he was a kid, and forced to do farm things in the southern tradition. One year me and a buddy raised a couple of turkeys, white domestic ones like the one that scared the Snipster, and ended up with about twenty pounds of left-over finisher feed by Thanksgiving. Mine was named Squeaks and his was named Homer. We hung Squeaks up on the porch railing by her feet, and I soothingly pulled her head out and slit her throat like I seen Africans boogaloos do with birds, seen them kill them with no fuss. And I cut her neck through and was immediately sprayed up and down my whole body by a wildly-thrashing blood-spout. It went on for a long time, too-- it was like killing a fucking turtle. I dressed her out and stuffed her, and we roasted her up in the Weber kettle, a day before Thanksgiving because my kid was going to his Mom's for the real thing, and it was a pretty good feed. The only thing, I forgot to stuff the crop, the part in front of the breast, and I opened it up and spooned the stuffing from the crop out on my plate and took a big bite and it turned out to be roasted turkey finisher. The whole crop was stuffed full of cooked turkey food. It's a good time of year.
House of Meat
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 23:56:18 (EST)

My two cents are: spit spat at apt pats
White Juicy Cream is Sexual Harrasmint
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 23:42:00 (EST)

My two cents are: apt pat

- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 23:36:32 (EST)

My two cents are: Sounds like an apt pupil. Although he doesn't have the vocabulary down twat. Excuse, I meant pat.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 23:04:24 (EST)

My two cents are: Does Pete charge for those lessons?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 22:49:35 (EST)

My two cents are: You been taking lessons from Pete???
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 22:43:51 (EST)

My two cents are: Hey meat man, how's it shaking? Who's the oreo on this page. I'd like to screw the cookie open and fill the gap between the chocolate halves with white juicy cream.
Tom
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 21:35:43 (EST)

My two cents are: I haven't been around in a while. Where's the meat man at? Been sort of bummed out since finding out that no matter how they count the votes Bush beat Gore. It doesn't help me feel any better that the only way Gore can win is if they count votes where the voter picked nobody as a Gore vote or where he or she voted for Gore and anybody else, that's a Gore vote too. It was close though, and nationwide Gore got more votes. At least in the states where there are more people than cows.
Tom
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 21:29:59 (EST)

My two cents are: That crynic character has an almost perfect ear for posting the wrong statement. But what's so marvelous about him is his blustering style, so pround about how perfectly he's nailed it when the hammer flew out of his hand on the backswing and is hurtling toward that old lady back down the block, shuffling toward the crosswalk. You'd think such a thoroughly-exposed unpatriotic slacker would hang his head in faux shame just to keep appearances up, but noo-oo. Here he is yapping about how shameful it is to speculate on whether Pete the human yo-yo will come back to the string-finger to take more lumps; the crynic stands at the arcade watching an innocent freckle-faced girl who's been beating the hell out of the Whak-a-Mole� board for four years and speculates that the mechanical moles have taken umbrage and won't come back out of the smoothly whirring guts of the machine no matter how many quarters she drops into the slot. What a rube. What a clueless dick-face. The guy ought to take a shower.
House of Meat
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 21:27:31 (EST)

My two cents are: "Incognegro," that's a good one. But I never think of you as negro or not negro, Whatever... to me you are always a sweet Oreo cookie. Keep the faith, sista!
Buster Terwilliger
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 18:56:58 (EST)

My two cents are: If the try Osama in America, somebody will try to spring him and patriots like the crynic don't want to run the risk of stubbing their toes on the rubble when they visit the home sod from their adopted islands.
House of Meat
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 18:51:28 (EST)

My two cents are: Pitiful, pitiful. A voce crying in the wilderness yearning to be heard and few would listen.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 18:05:05 (EST)

My two cents are: What's wrong with trying Osama Bin Laden in America?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 18:03:48 (EST)

My two cents are: This board is like a bad accident. I don't want to look, but I can't help from watching you democrat dunderheads tripping over each others half thoughts day after day. Humorous actually.
the crynic
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 17:44:17 (EST)

My two cents are: Can we trade in Pete the Patriot for Pete the Pup? At least he made us cry when he was about to be gassed. I don't think the same could be said for the other Pete.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 17:35:10 (EST)

My two cents are: You've got to admit, when it comes to being a man, the crynic is much more of one than Pete. crynic's farewells to the board number only in the single digits.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 17:31:31 (EST)

My two cents are: "Pete the Patriot"?? The guy whose philosophy can be summed up in two words -- "Run away!!""?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 17:29:47 (EST)

My two cents are: What kind of sadist is cyrnic? Does he want Pete to return?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 17:29:20 (EST)

My two cents are: Someone was kind to Whatever? Where?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 17:24:37 (EST)

My two cents are: Spoken like a true simpleton.
the crynic
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 17:23:51 (EST)

My two cents are: How many times have we gotten what we wished for? 37?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 17:23:04 (EST)

My two cents are: You're just jealous, crynic.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 17:20:18 (EST)

My two cents are: You liberal masochists are pathetic. You whine when Pete's here, you whine when he's gone. A classic case of getting what you wish for. A bunch of sophomoric nitwits with too much time on your idle socialist hands and not enough life pulsing thru your veins. Even you liar demons must admit it's petty and boring for you holier-than-thou eggheads to be theorizing about if and when Pete the Patriot may or may not return to Fornigate. Keep your fingers crossed and say a prayer - you never know. I think a pretty please may help./ / / Kinda cool about President Bush and the tribunal, huh?
the crynic
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 17:14:09 (EST)

My two cents are: Well, hi guys, has been a while since I dropped a post. I'm sorry I've been so incognegro. Well, I just wanted to tell you the good news, I got engaged, finally. I'm excited and scared and a whole bunch of things at the same time. I don't know when or where the wedding will be. I'm thinking NYC, because it's easiest to get to, especially for all my old folks in NYC, and when, I don't know. I really wanted the first week of September, but then I'm thinking, that is around Labor Day, and it might be kind of expensive to get everyone in NYC that particular weekend. So, I'm thinking we'll either push it back a week or push it forward a week. We still have to go down to NYC on Thanksgiving, to see my family and show them the ring. Just wanted to tell you guys thanks for the lovely words about me between my last post and this one. Thanks especially to Glint, who is a kind and wonderful person as well. And finally, with respect to NYC, I still have to get to The Promenade, which is in Brooklyn, and faces NYC. You get this spectacular view of the skyline. In fact, the typical shot of the Manhattan skyline is taken from The Promenade. Everyday when I was in high school, my girls and I would go down to The Promenade and watch the skyline. My friend, Miss Skibunny as a matter of fact, went down to Brooklyn this past weekend, and told me that I HAVE to go to The Promenade and look, because it blew her mind to not see the Trade Center in the skyline.
Whatever
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 17:10:54 (EST)

My two cents are: I disagree Anonymous. I give Pete a day or two at the most before he's back. There aren't many people who can turn their backs on Glint's riveting astronomy stories. In fact, I'd say that the liveliest office pools going are the ones over whether or not Mr. Peebody is going to shut off the damn mercury vapor.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 16:48:25 (EST)

My two cents are: Pete is history. Out. Nevermore. Quoth the raven. In his own immortal words, "end of story. Gone." He's had it. He quits. Forever. The only thing left for him is to nuke everyone. Not here. He's nuking by his absence. He is breaking 22 hearts. I'm cryin'.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 16:35:41 (EST)

My two cents are: Who is this Pete fellow and why does he so loudly encourage our overseas forces to put themselves in harm's way when he himself can't even withstand a verbal assault on this board?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 15:59:52 (EST)

My two cents are: DEERFIELD BEACH, Fla. (AP) -- A man dashing across a lake on a customized personal watercraft at about 55 mph was killed in an apparent collision with a flying duck. Leon Resnick, an employee of Riva Yamaha, was testing the water jet-propelled craft Thursday on a lake about 20 miles north of Fort Lauderdale, investigators said Monday. A co-worker who was watching turned to pick up a radar gun to check Resnick's speed, and when he turned back Resnick was no longer aboard the craft. Resnick, 31, of Hollywood, drowned after suffering a blow to his head, the Broward County medical examiner's office said. ``Our theory is that the bird was airborne and clocked him in the head,'' said David Bamdas, an owner of the dealership.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 14:24:51 (EST)

My two cents are: I dreamed that my chiropractor cracked my neck and my head fell off. What does this mean? Is it prophetic?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 14:09:24 (EST)

My two cents are: Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 14:07:35 (EST)

My two cents are: I dreamed that my dog was chasing a rabbit. What does this mean? I don't even have a dog.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 14:03:28 (EST)

My two cents are: Doesn't Bush know this is a Holy War? Ann and Pete..one and the same...say it is. What is Bush doing dining with the enemy?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 14:02:24 (EST)

My two cents are: My take on this? Pete will be back PDQ if the Buffs win on Friday, if not before. In the meantime the surrender of Kandahar is off the table. My take on this is that it's good news because big Mullah Cheeze Whiz has prophecied his own impending death >>> "...Recent reports suggested that Mullah Omar, facing almost certain defeat, had agreed to surrender Kandahar. But yesterday Ahmad Karzai, whose brother Hamid has been negotiating with the Taliban for the surrender of the city, said Mullah Omar had changed his mind because he had had a prophetic dream in which he remained in power. "I have had a dream in which I am in charge for as long as I live," Mr Karzai quoted Mullah Omar as saying..."
Glint
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 13:58:06 (EST)

My two cents are: Bush becoming a liberal was Pete's true reason for leaving.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 13:53:36 (EST)

My two cents are: We own this place. Let's get on with it.
the 22 or so socialsits
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 13:48:35 (EST)

My two cents are: How many abdications is this? When will it stick? Shall we hold our breaths or what?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 13:43:21 (EST)

My two cents are: It will be interesting to observe greed rearing its ugly head in perilous times. Economy might improve with the increased wealth of more than a few lawyers.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 12:33:53 (EST)

My two cents are: Hard to believe that a closest surviving relative gets 50 large while a child over 24 gets a measly $10,000. Do these people have to promise to not sue the American Airlines to collect?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 10:44:55 (EST)

My two cents are: The King of the Hill turned out to be the queen of the wuss. Good out of the gate but not a finisher. He became weary of educating the stupid, stupid lie-brals who infest this page. His instruction never took. Economics in particular would simply not enter the lie-bral mind. He tried and tried to explain that the state exists to get more dollars into the hand of its wealthy citizens so that they have enough money to employ the less wealthy. But did anyone listen? Did anyone take his military elucubrations seriously? Did anyone take his poetry seriously, or the "postitions" he had taken in the market, or the "profit taking" that he considered after the "positions" had doubled in value? Did anyone believe that his experience of playground wedgies gave him a special understanding of race relations? Did anyone really think that he understood life from the bottom up because he had worked as a waiter while going to night school at Heald Business College? Did anyone think he had the legs to run the whole course?
Nope. Nobody did.
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 10:34:57 (EST)

My two cents are: NEW YORK (AP) - A city-run charity has distributed a second wave of checks worth $24.4 million to families of victims of the attacks on the World Trade Center, Mayor Rudolph Giuliani said Saturday. The money was earmarked for 197 families who lost a breadwinner, the mayor said. The checks are headed toward the relatives of 171 fire department and emergency medical service workers, 15 Port Authority officers and 11 members of the police department. ``At least this gets a substantial amount of money immediately into the hands of the families who need it,'' Giuliani said during a press conference. Some 270 families have now benefitted from money raised by the Twin Towers Fund, according to Giuliani. The fund was designated for the families of 403 Port Authority and New York City police officers and firefighters who died in the tragedy. The distribution breakdown is as follows: $85,000 for the spouse of each victim, $25,000 for each child under 24 and $10,000 for each child 24 and older. The closest relative of victims who left no surviving spouse will receive $50,000
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 10:21:59 (EST)

My two cents are: I can't believe this. The King of the Hill abdicated???
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 03:28:50 (EST)

My two cents are: No, because after he mentioned it I recalled that she told me that too. You see, she had sued the guy because it was discovered that he was dumping his ashes in her field. At that time he was burning stacks of pallets, which contain lots of rusty hardware. They got it worked out and when she was telling me the story she said he began asking about the field and said he might be interested in buying it. He asked her how much and she told me the price she told him, and slapped her bony knee and threw her head back with chortling glee. He also told me how much he's going to counter offer at. Maybe he thought that the inforation would be communicated to her. He also said that if I "don't buy it out from under him" he would make her an offer in the Spring. She was in the hospital this week, so maybe I should move on it before her relatives take over. Hey, maybe she and him are in it together trying to grift me!
Glint
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 02:43:38 (EST)

My two cents are: Let's just hope the Arab world don't see any videos of the turkey encounter. The Arab Street will find it difficult to comprehend that a man could be afraid of tomorrow's dinner. In those places you buy your fowl on the hoof, it doesn't come packed in shrink-wrap by illegal aliens. You want to eat it you got to kill it and pull out the feathers. If this gets out, it could prolong the war by several years.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 02:43:19 (EST)

My two cents are: When you think about it, of course, you realize that if there is any truth to evolution a turkey is just a dinosaur with feathers. That could put the fear in any man, under the right conditions. Even a man who can splice a cable and change a flat tire. No, the turkey episode didn't reveal anything at all about the inner man, any more than throwing the baseball did. We put too much faith in images and omens. We're like primitive druids, the kinds of people whom woe would overtake if their leader ducked when the ceremonial bird jerked on the alter. We should shake off that old superstition and realize that a hot-house cheerleader is on unfamiliar ground when it comes to live domestic fowl. There probably hasn't been a President who could deal comfortably with a live turkey since the despised Jimmy Carter, who was run out of office for being attacked by a rabbit. At least he didn't grab the turkey and hold it over the sinks, spurting jism on it, the way Cliton would have done.
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- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 02:38:16 (EST)

My two cents are: Wonder if the Civil War reenactor was sandbagging. About the widow's offer. Maybe he's crafty and doesn't tell the real price. The old reverse switcheroo. Dumb like a fox. On the other hand, it looks like Snippy will drop a few points in the esteem of those pundits who admired his bravery on the safest baseball mound in Christiandom. He was not nearly so brave when that turkey eased its shoulders under the presidential* hand. Jerked back like a nanny with a frog in her pinafore. Bravery is all in the situation, though, or so they say. Henry Fleming or whatever his name was ran the first day but carried the colors to glory on the second. Maybe it will be different with Osama than it was with the turkey. Hate to see a grown Texas cowboy who likes walking amongst his cows flinch on the first date with a bird, though. Got to admit them turkeys are pretty big, and look like they could put a hurt on a bandy-legged little guy. We got three years to watch the wrinkles come out.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 02:29:06 (EST)

My two cents are: When I woke up it was 5 a.m. -- the predicted peak time at which the Earth was expected to cross the debris stream left by Comet Tempel-Tuttle when it passed through the inner solar system in 1766. Jupiter and a few stars were visible so I went out side and laid on my back. It kept clearing and by 5:30 it was very clear overhead and Gemini, Auriga, Orion, and Ursa Major were all visible. Quite a few meteorites were seen, sometimes as many as 4 or 5 at once. A very good shower on my unscientific threshold scale: I didn't fall asleep watching them like I do at other meteor showers. Got pictures too.
Glint
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 02:24:10 (EST)

My two cents are: Yes, he does. To get on his good side (and to help convince him he should flip on the off switch on his lamp :-) I told the bloke, "The thing we have in common is we both enjoy the outdoors at night." Think we bonded. He also told me he was thinking of buying the widow's field. He told me the price she was asking. It was 50% more than the price she had given me. Of course I didn't ask her to make me an offer. She volunteered.
Glint
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 02:16:37 (EST)

My two cents are: I dropped the power to gain a wider field useful in sweeping out galaxies. When I stepped back up the ladder I noticed an unusual phenomenon. Off in the distance, toward the southeast, glowing ovals were appearing in the sky. Definitely not Leonids, for they did not move. Glancing up I noticed a gauzy haze had enveloped Jupiter and Saturn. It was a high fog or low clouds (take your pick) rolling in. The oval patches were photon impact zones from each of the recently installed spot lights used to illuminate American flags that had been springing up around the county. So we could kiss the galaxies good night. I rolled the 0.5 meter inside and climbed up the hill. With the fog that thick it would be impossible to see any but the brightest Leonids. It was about 1 or 2 a.m. by now. So I went into the round room, opened up the slit and pointed the telescope at Saturn, glimpsing it as the gentle breeze blew thinner patches of atmospheric nebulosity across the field of view. Then sped on to Jupiter. After a while the cloud cover was completely opaque. I passed out on the observatory floor and slept like a baby.
Glint
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 02:10:14 (EST)

My two cents are: Black powder is great at night. Nice plume of sparks and flame out the front of the gun. Keeps burning. Black powder is neat to shoot anyway, because of that quality. Like where in a modern gun the charge goes off all at once, making highe velocities a reality, with black power or Pyrodex� it goes off all the way down the barrel, with a beautiful sort of rumbling boom, and the recoil isn't a sudden kick but more like a cuff with a huge knuckle, pushing you back with a hard but sort of gentle nudge. Pumpkin rolling, you could call it, that big ball rolling off down toward whatever it is you're shooting at. Had a friend went out with his great-great-grandfather's pistol, looked like a pirate would stick in his sash, maybe .60 calibre, shot it at a tree and the ball bounced back and hit him in the chest. They call a big pistol like that a horse-pistol, and Francis Parkman describes shooting buffalo with them in 1848, running alongside break-neck across the prairie-dog holes on his horse and shooting down into the thundering buffalo with the pistols. Black powder and bonfires, and fuck the dry grass. That neighbor sounds like he knows how to amuse himself and suckle of the honeys, even in the nanny state.
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- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 02:05:09 (EST)

My two cents are: So the photon spitting fire was out, and the firetrucks and all the flashing lights had left. I continued ferreting out faint galaxies in Cetus and Pisces. Suddenly it was brilliant out as I noticed that the black sillouhette of the house was being cast against the hill. I peered around the corner of the house and where the fire pit was located couldn't help but notce that a bajillion watt sodium vapor arc lamp was sitting there pointed directly at our house. It was weird and I figured that perhaps the guy was freaking out. In the confusion of voices I heard one [presumably] fireman say, "I don't know who called it in but somebody did." Perhaps he was taking revenge against neighbors. If he couldn't have his fire he would have an electric sun. But why is it pointed straight at me? Is it possible he thinks that I was the one that narced on his ass? One way or another that light had to be put out so I took off across the widow's hay field, attracted by the light. He was standing there with a garden hose in hand watering the fire pit when I asked him what the Hell he thought he was doing. Apparently he wanted to make sure that every coal was extinguished since he had denied the firemen access to his property to put it out themselves. Minute later the neighbor from the west side of him showed up asking what the Hell was going on over here. He's the John Deere salesman who lost the sale. He was the neighbor with the un-neighborly prices. I took my business to the dealership on Ydog's home planet in Montgomery County and saved about $3K. His name is Stephan, but I always call him Steven becuse I like to hear him say, "The name's Steffan." Eventually the fire was out and it was time to get back to the eyepiece.
Glint
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 01:58:21 (EST)

My two cents are: Oh, come on, ?, you know the drill, bonfire, drought, sparks, fuel, volunteer firemen, dufus, nanny-state? How could there be any question? It all fits together like a finely-crafted eyepiece.
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- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 01:54:47 (EST)

My two cents are: ?????
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- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 01:50:59 (EST)

My two cents are: One of the other neighbors is a firebug, I may have mentioned him before. On weekends he builds bonfires and sits around. In the past he used to shoot firearms in the middle of the nighg. Some neighbors said it was black powder and that he was one of those recreationists. You know, like from the Civil War. Anyway, I could tell he had a fire going because I could see the shadows were dancing about. Peeked around the corner of the house and flames must have been 15-20' tall! The bonfire was a massive torch and it looked to me like his trees might go any minute. Weird thing about it is that with the current draught there is a state wide ban against open fires. I could hear startled voices from observatory in wild exclaimation saying, "Geeze, a huge fire over there!" A fellow drove down the hill and announced he was leaving. He made a comment about the burn ban and I said that the guy lights up every weekend. He said someone should call the fire department. I said that there are enough neighbors around who burn stuff and are always careful to get the right permits. Furthermore, stuff like this grinds their grist and it wouldn't surprise me if one of them did report it. Within two minutes we could hear the local volunteers on their way. The first truck pulled up in front of the house. By this time the petrol-fed flames had died down and the fire was merely roaring. Apparently they couldn't see the fire from the road and they resumed driving. A second truck came by and followed the first. Then the fire chief came and smoked him out. Could hear the voices. "Blah blah blah gotta put it out right now." "Blah blah blah nobody told me 'bout it." Only thing worse than a poor dumb dufus is a poor dumb dufus in a nanny state.
Glint
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 01:45:42 (EST)

My two cents are: Did anyone watch the Leonids Saturday night? I wondered over to Mr. Peebody's shed. He and the groper were having a beer. Peebody obliged by nodding and flipping off the switch to the mercury vapor lamp. Thanked him and left, but then noticed that there was a floodlight left on pointed my way at the apex of the gabled roof of the house. Ever since he's ran that American flag up his lamp pole he likes to keep it properly illuminated. I called one of the other two neighbors who bought land from the widow woman and built houses after us. They turned off the lights on the north side that normally interfere with observations being made with the 0.5 meter telescope. Asked them to flip off the rear floods too as there were people set up near the observatory. They did. Said it was a good thing I called because they were on their way out to watch a pay-per-view boxing match somewhere. They flipped the north lights back on when they came out to get in their car, and split.
Glint
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 01:31:04 (EST)

My two cents are: I'm on vacation and I don't know how long it's going to last. I know, it sounds like the title of a blues tune. I Heard about Pete so I closed and latched the observatory's shutters and strolled down down the hill to post this. Perhaps this can help get Pete back into action. >>> "Buffs say backup QB can do job" LINCOLN - The thought of throwing a backup quarterback at Nebraska's defense is enough to leave some in Colorado with uneasy feelings. Bobby Pesavento, subbing for Craig Ochs, will lead Colorado against No. 2 Nebraska. Friday, Pesavento will try to get things done in a high-stakes match against second-ranked Nebraska in a 2:35 p.m. game at Boulder's Folsom Field. The winner will represent the North Division in the Dec. 1 Big 12 Conference championship game. The loser will start making plans for a bowl trip to a destination that will fall a couple notches below expectations. It could be argued that wherever the Buffaloes wind up, it will be a bonus for a team that has had to overcome adversity and injury to get to Friday's game with an 8-2 record. Colorado lost its best receiver, John Minardi, and top tackler, Jashon Sykes, to season-ending injuries before the season moved into October. The Buffaloes have been without No. 1 quarterback Craig Ochs since the second quarter of their Oct. 27 game at Oklahoma State when Ochs suffered a partially torn tendon above his ankle. He hasn't played since, missing CU's wins over Missouri and Iowa State. Colorado had hoped that Ochs might be able to play against Nebraska, but Buffaloes' Coach Gary Barnett said during Monday's Big 12 coaches telephone press conference that Pesavento will start. Ochs first went to the sidelines Sept. 22 after taking a hit to the head in CU's game against Kansas. He played the entire game Oct. 13 in a win over Texas A&M, but was sidelined for the 41-7 loss Oct. 20 at Texas with postconcussion symptoms. "We don't see a whole lot of difference between the two," said Craig Bohl, Nebraska's defensive coordinator. "Obviously, one was a starter for a reason. But they've been winning with the other guy, and I haven't seen any difference in the play selection." The Buffaloes were in dire need of Pesavento's help when Ochs went down in the Nov. 27 game against Oklahoma State with the ankle injury. The Cowboys blew out to a 19-7 first-half lead, but Pesavento rallied the Buffaloes to a 22-19 victory. While the victories have boosted Pesavento's confidence, he will be facing a Nebraska defense Friday that has broken the spirits of 11 quarterbacks this season. "They are a very disciplined team," Pesavento said. "They're always in the right place. They're perfect on their assignments. We've been on a mission this season, but you can see that Nebraska's defense is on a mission, too."
Glint
- Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 01:21:34 (EST)

My two cents are: Amazing how lie-bral c*nt-faces twist the truth to try to impose socialsitism on the rich that they hate. Doingk!
Pete�
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 23:48:46 (EST)

My two cents are: "Former vice president Al Gore has joined Metropolitan West Financial, a holding company that encompasses Metropolitan West Asset Management, the firm announced today. Gore will serve as a vice chairman for MetWest. In this role, he'll help develop private equity strategies in the biotechnology and information-technology fields, as well as advise on international markets...." Guess Gore's monkey handlers should have listened to him and called Erin Brokovich! Hardy Har Har! Guess Gore won't need another opportunity to hog tie the country like he did in November-December 2000. Twisting the rules trying to get a corrupt Democrat Scofla court to carry his water for him. Oh, the warning signs were there allright. He couldn't control himself from breaking rules of conduct at the debate. Interrupting and posing questions himself. But he got the debate coaches' vote so it wasn't a total loss for you sh*t-boxes.
Glimpse Faintly, substiture troglodyte
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 23:46:17 (EST)

My two cents are: ?The ethical and legal standards of the Bush administration will sink low if the President carries through with his plan of naming the nation?s top law enforcement agency after someone who spent his tenure in the Justice Department trampling on the civil rights of all Americans. It is widely known that Kennedy urged then FBI director J. Edgar Hoover to misuse FBI files to blackmail members of Congress to ?overlook? his brother, President John F. Kennedy?s, affair with an East German spy. With the possible exception of John Mitchell and Janet Reno, I cannot think of a worse choice.?
Judicial Watch Chairman and General Counsel, Larry Klayman
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 23:38:48 (EST)

My two cents are: The soul of such an one, when the knife of judgement brings it forth from the throat, will pollute the very Seven Hells. I must go, and select the swiftest camel from within the roped space, for tonight I make jihad.
B'Hommad
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 23:36:17 (EST)

My two cents are: Say it ain't so.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 23:32:34 (EST)

My two cents are: Ewwwwwwwwwwwwww!
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- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 23:25:07 (EST)

My two cents are: Please come back Pete. I really miss you. Hugs and kisses.
Mary
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 23:06:08 (EST)

My two cents are: Who died?
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 21:52:00 (EST)

My two cents are: Oh, I thought the surprise announcement was that he was now a socialist. I guess one must read the fine print between the lines, mustn't one. Basicly, he quit because he wasn't going to get laid. Good riddance.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 21:25:31 (EST)

My two cents are: Was this the "surprise announcement" Pete promised the other day? Where's the surprise? The first thing I thought when I read the teaser: He's going to quit...again. As a surprise this ranks right up there with, Clinton shot a stream of jism into a sink and Glint hasn't had a peaceful day since.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 21:00:18 (EST)

My two cents are: Maria Grazia Cutuli
chop
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 20:29:27 (EST)

My two cents are: Time to put the place on the block.
The Butcher
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 20:21:12 (EST)

My two cents are: I never thought Pete was a quitter. Wait, I take that back..... I always thought Pete was a quitter.
House of Meat
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 19:40:51 (EST)

My two cents are: I might as well terminate my ISP. Save a few bucks.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 19:39:37 (EST)

My two cents are: Yes, they call it vocabularestectomy, I believe.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 18:58:38 (EST)

My two cents are: He e-mailed me, too, but I couldn't understand a word. I had never realized how hard he works on his posts here. Evidently they all go through several drafts, and review by Pete's doctor, who also tries to correct the English.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 18:52:12 (EST)

My two cents are: Well, Pete just emailed me and said it is true, he quit. Says he may only return if Teresa comes back. Sad sack.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 18:35:03 (EST)

My two cents are: http://www.usatoday.com/news/attack/2001/11/19/iraq.htm. One down, 59 to go.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 18:34:00 (EST)

My two cents are: What happened to Glint was he turned liberal but was ashamed to admit it on this site. I'm going to monitor it for a while, just to make sure they don't come back, but I think it's pretty much over.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 18:14:07 (EST)

My two cents are: He may be able to kick it cold turkey this time. All he does here is get the stuffing whacked out of him. Even Pete can probably see that his posts are lame. It must be frustrating. Glint is afraid to try to help him any more, and it doesn't look as if he's going to get laid off this site. "Forever" might mean forever this time. Yet, paradoxically, Pete saying "forever" is a good clue that it won't be forever.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 18:10:38 (EST)

My two cents are: I give him no more than two days. Any takers?
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 17:20:46 (EST)

My two cents are: What is THE agenda?
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 17:20:32 (EST)

My two cents are: Typical liberal tactic. From one who has no clue about the evil socialism which is in fact THE agenda for liar demonrats. You people are not worth wasting any more of my time. I've had it. I quit. Forever. The only thing left is to nuke everyone. Sayonara. I'm done with this stupid stupid group. Sorry, it's over. End of story. Gone.
Pete�
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 17:15:35 (EST)

My two cents are: How many times have you seen this headline. Republican Governor_________, is seeking increase in state's sales tax, gas tax to pay for _________? When the revenues are down at the National level,the states get hit hard. Who pays? We all do, rich and poor, consumers and producers.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 17:10:44 (EST)

My two cents are: I figure Iggy is rich though. I don't know how much he makes, but he charges me and a few others out at $55/hour. Hell, even Pedro and Ahmed charge out at $26.00.
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- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 17:08:59 (EST)

My two cents are: What point?
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 17:06:18 (EST)

My two cents are: Seeking the "answer" proves the point. Doink.
Pete�
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 17:04:56 (EST)

My two cents are: Don't ranchers in Texas keep turkeys in the barnyard?
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 17:04:21 (EST)

My two cents are: I may not be rich, but $17.50/hour ain't chicken-feed.
House of Meat
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 17:03:22 (EST)

My two cents are: Well, whoever they are, I admire them and would like to meet them.
Miffy Brooks-Jackson
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 17:01:27 (EST)

My two cents are: No answer on just who is/are ("the rich") that we hate so much.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 16:56:56 (EST)

My two cents are: Yeah, 16:49, that's your problem. You do not understand how economics work and the benefit of "the rich" you ahte so much. You are nothing but a stupid brainwashed thief and always will be. scum.
Pete�
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 16:53:00 (EST)

My two cents are: WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush smoothed the feathers of a nervous 55-pound turkey, declared him safe from any Thanksgiving roasting pan and then snickered at the absurdity of it all. "Here we are at the White House. All in a day's work," Bush said Monday while two dozen news cameras focused on him and the bird, named Liberty. In the Rose Garden with some three dozen schoolchildren, Bush seemed a reluctant keeper of this particular White House tradition - the 54th annual pardoning of the Thanksgiving turkey - and an inexperienced hand at handling live turkeys. Bush grabbed 7-month-old Liberty by the scruff of the neck and the bird snapped in protest. "Down boy!" the commander in chief ordered before encouraging the children to step up and pet the saved Liberty. "Looks mean, but it's a sweet bird," Bush said. Liberty will live out the remainder of his two-year life expectancy at a suburban Virginia petting zoo in the ironically named Frying Pan Park. As is the custom, an alternate turkey - named Freedom - was on standby Monday to fill in if Liberty had a case of stage fright. "And Freedom is not here because he is in a secure and undisclosed location," Bush joked.
Too bad there isn't $25 M on Cliton's head
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 16:51:50 (EST)

My two cents are: Hey, if he took econ in college we better not try to argue with him. He's got us cold. It would be like trying to box with Evander Holyfield. I'm out of here.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 16:50:05 (EST)

My two cents are: "the rich" ?? Rich is relative.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 16:49:02 (EST)

My two cents are: No, I took Economics in college and anyone with half a brain can see the brainwashed lies of the left as they race bait, lie about "the rich" and set their program for national socialism in motion. Theya re the true pod people enemies of America. Those who want to steal from the capital producing and incentive generating segments of society. Suicidal, of course, but like all manic depressives, demonrat socialsits could never see the light to save their own pitiful arses. Traitors.
Pete�
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 16:44:11 (EST)

My two cents are: Or wearing a flowered bowling shirt on Fridays?
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 16:41:14 (EST)

My two cents are: What happens is they hear some confused goof misapplying a word and think it sounds a little more intelligent than the the normal usage. So they use it themselves, thinking it's slick, like a tie-clip, or folding your hankie into points, or drinking tequila.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 16:39:34 (EST)

My two cents are: (1).Ability of the State to tax a business and people to death as a mark of success. (2). Business is what employs people, PAYS TAXES and grows prosperity. Where's the problem?
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 16:37:01 (EST)

My two cents are: Me, I always get a chuckle out of people who use "grow" to mean "make bigger." I'm going to order some concrete and grow my driveway.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 16:35:52 (EST)

My two cents are: Taxes? What's left to tax after a Republican destroys the eonomy?
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 16:33:50 (EST)

My two cents are: You'd think that someone with such a deep appreciation of spin would know how to use the word.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 16:33:29 (EST)

My two cents are: Interesting how demonrats still spin the ability of a State to tax a business and people to death as a mark of success. Business is what employs people, pays taxes and grows prosperity. The government does none of this on its own. Liberals are the msot stupid sheep ever to bleat in open air.
Pete�
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 16:27:41 (EST)

My two cents are: VIRGINIA GOV. James Gilmore completes his four-year term having run the state's finances into the ground. He belatedly acknowledges the difficulty, though not the cause. Revenue for the current fiscal year is likely to fall $1 billion below projected costs. The governor blames the Sept. 11 terrorist attack; "Virginia's economy is now in a post-attack recession," he says. No hint of a problem before then, nor that the governor himself bears a share of the responsibility. Republicans everywhere are running to hide under the September 11. This is reality, economy under Republicans. Recession = Republican.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 16:22:24 (EST)

My two cents are: Man, the market is rockin. Up almost 50% since I took my positions. Profit taking soon...
Pete�
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 16:20:56 (EST)

My two cents are: Yes, liberals are "disturbed" by everything. That is whby they are such dopes. Feel gooders for the tree of life. No conflict allowed. POW!!!
Pete�
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 16:18:05 (EST)

My two cents are: "We are going to continue pursuing him," he said. "Let's also remember, we're going to continue pursuing the entire al-Qaida network, which is in 60 countries, not just Afghanistan and, worst of all, here in the United States. ... This is a campaign against all the global terrorist networks and the states that support terrorism."
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 16:16:58 (EST)

My two cents are: Couldn't you mail it? By the way, I didn't even know that a football team needed a "rival." But now that I know, it disturbs me that Nebraska hasn't selected one.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 16:16:33 (EST)

My two cents are: The Jackalopes are doing it to the Bunnies, so I hear...
Pete�
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 16:14:28 (EST)

My two cents are: Looks like everything is under control here, Meat. Guess I'll head to the mountains for a few days. I'm taking 14 other posters with me. Plan to hand out the holiday bonuses. I'll send yours in the mail or bring it when I see you on December 13. Later.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 16:02:01 (EST)

My two cents are: How are the Jackalopes doing this year?
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 15:51:34 (EST)

My two cents are: I believe Colorado is 2-11-1 against NU when both teams have been ranked. Is it any wonder the Cornholers laugh off this "rivalry?" Of course, Nebraska has the recruiting advantage of being allowed to sign criminals to the program. CU's players generally do not become criminals until later in life.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 15:45:46 (EST)

My two cents are: "The Bill McCartney era began, with the brash new Buff boss declaring in 1982 that Nebraska would be CU's rival. "I always felt that was Bill's privilege," Tom Osborne said of the declaration that has yet to be acknowledged east of Limon. "CU fans never quite understood our approach." Nebraska's approach is that there is no rival, not even Oklahoma. Seriously. "We really tried to take the focus that the team that was our rival was the team that we played that week," Osborne said. "It bothered folks we didn't take Colorado as our rival." McCartney's breakthrough victory in 1986. Then, after two losses, CU beat the Cornhuskers in 1989 (27-21) and '90 (27-12) en route to a pair of Big Eight championships and a share of a national title. "It didn't really change our approach," Osborne said of the Buffs' success."
Yeah Right, Dr, Tom stole the 1990 AP poll by voting the Buffs 4th instead of 1st. Enemy #1
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 15:21:25 (EST)

My two cents are: Monday, November 19, 2001 - OMAHA - Seated for a steak dinner in Omaha's Old Market district by a waitress in red to a table with red and white napkins, Tim White, clad in a golden polo shirt with a Colorado Buffaloes logo near his heart, took note. Maybe the three sitting at the next table were just done with dinner, but when they got up just as White arrived, he jokingly said, "That's how they see Colorado fans." Such is life for the handful of CU supporters living on the home turf of their team's biggest rival and trying to keep from drowning in a sea of red. White, class of 1987, is a senior engineer at an Omaha software company who came to Nebraska for work more than 14 years ago and never left. He was joined at dinner by fellow fans Brian and Chrissi Bywater, a banker and music teacher, respectively, who attended Nebraska Wesleyan University in Lincoln and decided they had had enough of the Nebraska Cornhuskers' mystique. "I get really tired of the arrogance of Nebraska fans," said Brian Bywater, 31. "Nebraska football, it even enters into our church worship. I can't remember the last time Nebraska football hasn't been mentioned in a sermon." Bywater had a college roommate from Loveland who started converting him during their freshman year at Wesleyan. When J.J. Flannigan dropped a key pass during CU's 7-0 loss in Lincoln in 1988, Bywater did not know why, but he was hooked. He in turn won over Chrissi, 29, when they began dating. This is not considered normal behavior for two native Nebraskans who never left the state. But they defiantly stick to their black and gold, with plans to attend Friday's game at Folsom Field between CU and Nebraska. They even have a jumpsuit ready for their 3-month-old son, Connor, to grow into. "Our families give us such guff," Chrissi Bywater said. "When it comes to football, we aren't family members." Like her husband and White, she also must deal with the usually good-natured grief she gets at work. Occasionally, her boss at her elementary school will declare a Nebraska Day. He announced one after the Huskers' 24-17 Orange Bowl victory over Miami earned them the 1994 national title. "The principal sent out a memo - 'You are not an American if you don't wear red,' " she recalled. "I wore all black. I was in mourning." Lincoln civil engineer Frank Lee, 33, also needs to make sure he has built up a thick skin around co-workers. Lee met his wife, Jodi Rave, at the Colorado-Kansas State football game in 1994, the last season Bill McCartney coached the Buffs. "What gets tiring is comments about how we're not their rivals," Lee said. "There's always talk about how the whole thing's a creation of McCartney and that their real rival is more Oklahoma." The harassment is not always so friendly. White used to organize CU watch parties in town. He recalls as his group tried to watch inside an Omaha bar Colorado's famous Hail Mary victory at Michigan in 1994, a couple of drunk Nebraska fans got testy, though no punches were thrown. With the past five games in the Buffs-Huskers series decided in Nebraska's favor by 15 points, White has noticed a change in tone. "With the really close games, there's a fair amount of respect afterwards. More like, 'That was one hell of a game, and we're very lucky to get out of it,' " he said. But White says he is not getting less militant about the enemy: "The constant barrage of Husker, Husker, Husker makes you look back and be more of a fan of where you came from." Lee also will make the trek to Boulder for Friday's game. He was not shy when asked to predict the game's outcome. "I feel sorry for them," he said of Nebraska fans. "The Buffs are going to win and this whole state's going to be down."
Pete�
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 15:17:21 (EST)

My two cents are: No, NU, claims there are no rivals to NU. That is why theya re supremely arrogant. Tom Osborne himself said that even OU is not NU's rival and never was. Smug. Article also coming up...(faux Hummer sighting)
Pete�
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 15:13:31 (EST)

My two cents are: Somebody had to run the goverment when Reagan was in office.Beacause he was too dumb. He was just a wind up puppet for the right wing nuts.
Ho Hum
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 14:55:07 (EST)

My two cents are: National ID cards are neat. In France, for example, you can't stay in a motel without showing yours, so the cops always know where you spent the night and with whom. We should get them right away.
House of Meat
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 14:54:05 (EST)

My two cents are: Hwere are ym gorupies? I awnt osme!
ePete�
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 14:49:05 (EST)

My two cents are: After delivering a speech in Columbia, Missouri, Justice Scalia was asked if he thought national I.D. cards would be unconstitutional. He said that the Fourth Amendment doesn�t mention I.D. cards. True enough, as far as it goes (which isn�t very far at all). Scalia then added that opponents should try to pass an amendment to the Constitution. �If you think it's a bad idea to have an identity card, persuade your fellow citizens.�
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 14:47:48 (EST)

My two cents are: There is no mania. Nebraska's rival was always the Sooners until they briefly hit the skids. CU(nt) was then annointed rival due to their short ascension, before two fine coaches dumped the Buffies out of boredom. A measly $761 on ebay for four tickets tells the story. Pete's impressed by this weak number but it's a chump number to a scalper.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 14:41:03 (EST)

My two cents are: What was amazing as I was cooling my heels off island this weekend was Hawaii's 52-51 win over Miami. Yeah, the Buckeye one. Amazing game.
Pete�
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 14:35:46 (EST)

My two cents are: Glint, the mania is ensuing: "Four $45 tickets for this week's game (CU-NU in Boulder - Snow?) sold Saturday on the eBay Internet auction site for $761. ...But when cash fails, these [NU] fans will resort to trickery. Some have joined booster clubs of other teams in the Big 12 Conference to ensure entrance to sold-out games. Dave Egr, a construction manager in Omaha, got even more creative. "I dressed up and put on some Notre Dame garb to garner a little sympathy," he said of his successful attempt to watch Nebraska's 27-24 overtime victory last season in South Bend. He ended up with seats on the 30-yard line that gave him a perfect view of the extrasession. At the Journal-Star last week, classifieds supervisor Chris Lange reported Colorado fans have placed ads in her newspaper. "There'll be a lot of Nebraska fans (at Folsom Field)," said Pete Watters, co-owner of Lincoln's Zoo Bar and a road regular. "I know a lot of fans going to the game. About two-thirds of them have tickets." For every sellout, though, there is a Buffs backer who will let Nebraska fans take their tickets only when they pull them from their cold, dead fingers. Asked if he would sell his tickets for $1,000, Lincoln-based CU supporter Frank Lee replied: "If I didn't tell my wife, I wouldn't sell them. . . . I saw Notre Dame do that and that was shameful. Buff fans cannot do that." Another CU fan based in Nebraska, Tim White, said he would not surrender his seats for any price. "I wouldn't sell my tickets to a Husker fan. Really, it's not right to the team," he said." Tune in this Friday for the Main Event.
Pete�
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 14:34:14 (EST)

My two cents are: No, the Buffs and the Cornholers had the week off. Gives the Buffs time to dwell on the coming humiliation at the hands of one of the most boring college football teams in the land, year in year out.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 14:33:32 (EST)

My two cents are: Sure, the Sharper Image sums it all up, but there is texture to Pete's blindness. Any and all facets are worthy of mention.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 14:29:33 (EST)

My two cents are: Speaking of which, did the Buffs play last weekend?
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 14:27:00 (EST)

My two cents are: Pete bought two Volswagens?
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 14:23:10 (EST)

My two cents are: You could have skipped all that and just mentioned Sharper Image.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 14:20:43 (EST)

My two cents are: Interesting how Pete, a brain-dead Buffnoid, a GOP tool, an owner of two oversold German cars, a sucker for rightwing talk media, can chastise anyone for going with the groupies.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 13:42:47 (EST)

My two cents are: I'd go with groupies if I had any.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 13:36:25 (EST)

My two cents are: Poor Pete. So incisive and specific and yet with nothing really to say.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 13:23:06 (EST)

My two cents are: Poor Mary. So nice, so confused, so willing to go with the groupies....
Pete�
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 13:11:37 (EST)

My two cents are: Here's the real skinny: I'm NOT worried. Everything is FINE. I have a JOB. I write COLUMNS. I AM REAL.
PINCH ME IF YOU CAN FIND ANY MEAT LOOSE ENOUGH
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 12:44:12 (EST)

My two cents are: Here's the real skinny: I'm NOT worried. Everything is FINE. I have a JOB. I write COLUMNS. I AM REAL.
Ann Coulter
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 12:38:19 (EST)

My two cents are: I can't believe I missed the Victoria's Secret show. Can I send the FCC an e-mail complaining about it anyway?
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 10:24:02 (EST)

My two cents are: Here's the real skinny: I'm NOT worried. Everything is FINE. I have a JOB. I write COLUMNS. I AM REAL.
Ann Coulter
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 10:12:17 (EST)

My two cents are: Here's the real skinny: I'm NOT worried. Everything is FINE. I have a JOB. I write COLUMNS. I AM REAL.
Ann Coulter
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 10:11:53 (EST)

My two cents are: Harlan and Meat, I confess that I'm a little worried about the bankruptcy thing. The joblessness thing, too. The worst-ever-since-the-great-depression shitty productivity thing, too. Not to mention those 16 acres of still-burning rubble and resultant problems, which I won't mention.
Virtual Burqa
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 08:51:24 (EST)

My two cents are: Pleased to be of service. Now stop worrying. Harlan St. Wolf and I have it all under control.
Anonymous.
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 00:24:30 (EST)

My two cents are: I'm not afraid of Arabs or Muslims, its never been the individual or the group I feared. No, I fear what the government can do to innocent arabs or muslims or foreigners that just look middle eastern. It has always been the misuse of power that I feared, and an unchecked government.
Mary
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 00:15:27 (EST)

My two cents are: Meat :) You are a nice guy to have around. Thanks, for putting things into perspective.
Mary
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 00:08:21 (EST)

My two cents are: I think the elder Bush is a little too old to be running anything. He's just cashing in, which is weird in itself, why an old guy whose next act is to croak would care about making money. Maybe someone he owes is cashing in, and he's just being a good guy. Either way, my freedoms haven't been diminished, as far as I can tell. The guys at the door are just rent-a-cops, friendly, thinking about Saturday night. Haven't seen any terrorists yet. The Arabs I run into seem OK as people, within the context of being Arabs. If you're taking your cue from the guys on this page, you should realize that Pete is a self-marginalized non-starter-- he has nothing to do with Republicanism or anything real at all. Sure, if we were suddenly taken over by some strange Fuhrer, Pete would be there to help kill the innocent, but here in the modern USA he is just a harmless nut. Glint is just a guy who got interested in politics when Clinton got in trouble, and he has no substantial beliefs. The stuff he says is just a man-boy trying things out, trying to accommodate himself to radio shows he listens to and television shows he watches. He is neither dangerous nor potentially effective, politically. I don't think Bush is dangerous either, except through his voodoo economics, which really is going to bankrupt the country. But that's just money. Anyone who becomes president, even by appointment, is going to feel a certain responsibility, unless he's just an Alzheimer's case like Reagan. Snippy is fortunate because he got into a fairly serious problem with these terrorists, and so he really did have to develop responsible positions in many areas. We're not just kidding the troglodytes here about how he has become liberal-- he really has in a lot of ways, because he simply must if he is going to survive. Notice that even though he lucked into tremendously high poll ratings, he hasn't used that credit to advance the program that the Republicans anointed him to advance. This thing is working out fairly well, and although hard times are ahead we've been through hard times before, and will make it. Snippy so far has been no worse for the country than Ronald Reagan, and we survived him, and even bounced back under Clinton. I'd say relax, enjoy, it's just politics.
House of Meat
- Monday, November 19, 2001 at 00:01:33 (EST)

My two cents are: I also think that Gore would have been just as ruthless on civil liberties. I am hard on Gore today, but he had the election, he had everything and his decisions cost him the election. Based on that,and looking at all his decisions in retrospect...Gore isn't presidential. But in his favor, neither was Bush. But Bush isn't making the decisions.
Mary
- Sunday, November 18, 2001 at 23:46:41 (EST)

My two cents are: Bush may be a lightweight, but his father isn't. I believe Bush SR. is still running the show. I will always suspect that he actually ran the Presidency under Reagan, and knew everything about the Iran Contra Affair. More than Reagan knew.
Mary
- Sunday, November 18, 2001 at 23:38:46 (EST)

My two cents are: Hey, Meat. You nailed my fear...:). Thanks. My family's family was in Hungary when the Hungarian Revolution took place. The idea that just like that freedom could be lost always stayed with me. I guess it was hearing my Grandmother lament their fate so often. Germany seemed like ancient history but as I got older I realized it was only the recent past. The idea that it was only 1940 made me realize that free countries can change hands just like that. I 've always been insecure in my freedom.
Mary
- Sunday, November 18, 2001 at 23:28:41 (EST)

My two cents are: Gore blew everything..it's better that we have Bush. I would even vote for Bush over Gore next election, given those choices. One thing the election demonstrated was the total lack of ability for Gore to lead. I don't like him. I like Bush, but I don't trust him. And least of all do I support the Supreme Court to uphold the constitution. I may sound as hysterical as Ann Coulter,but its mind boggling all that's happened since 9/11 to our liberties. Its barely been two months. What's in store? Everyone says ...its time of war , the war powers act allows this in time of war. Why do I feel like something is wrong here? I don't feel protected, just threatened.
Mary
- Sunday, November 18, 2001 at 23:22:09 (EST)

My two cents are: You've got to remember that this Ashcroft is not Adolf Hitler, but rather just a Republican political dufus who couldn't beat a dead man in an election. Sure, he doesn't understand citizenship or patriotism or the Constitution, but that doesn't make him dangerous. These guys are all lightweights, chasing any loopy idea that comes into their minds, and their attempts to deal with the situation are basically anti-Republican and will never get past Antonin Scalia and his butt-boy Clarence Thomas. Consider that your really dangerous totalitarians were real men who could splice cables, and not second-rate dorks like Ashcroft and Cheney and Bush. Adolf Hitler, for example, served in the trenches in World War I, and got an iron cross. Contrast that to Ashcroft, a draft-dodger, and Cheney, a draft-dodger, and Bush, who got a cake job in the National Guard and couldn't even stick that out when the cocaine started calling him. These guys don't have what it takes to be dangerous to America, or anyone else. If they come down to installing fascism is America, there will be plenty of people willing to play for more than just the safest most comfortable place to drop their own fat ass, and the Republicans will lose. Republicanism is a luxury possible only in an environment made safe by Democrats and other serious people of good faith. Don't worry. At the first sign of adversity, the Ashcrofts and the Lotts and the DeLays will turn tail and run.
House of Meat
- Sunday, November 18, 2001 at 23:15:26 (EST)

My two cents are: We still get to vote. I bet this Administration will find some way to cancel the elections if there is a chance he won't get re-elected.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, November 18, 2001 at 23:06:51 (EST)

My two cents are: Lighten up, lie-brals. The worst thing is the mind-set, how Ashcroft and other Republicans say terrorists don't deserve constituional protection, forgetting that in our system we apply the protections while we are figuring out whether the possible perp is really the perp. But, hey, don't go overboard. We still get to vote, and the only reason the last presidential election ended up being crooked was that it was so close. Probably never happen again. Snippy came close to winning the election, and the republicans treated the attempt to find out who won as an extension of the campaign, rather than as an attempt to find out who won. You knew they were up to no good when they brought in the oddly nauseating and thoroughly corrupt Jim Baker, who they had promised would never get anywhere near the Bush camp. This was a knife-edged disputable election, but I believe the only lasting damage that resulted was the tax cut that Snippy won before the airplane attacks, which will bankrupt the country for the next generation. Bankrupting the United States of America has been the objective of mainstream Republicanism since Ronald Reagan, and it doesn't necessarily mean the total loss of civil liberties. The goal is to eliminate Social Security, along with the shredded remains of the New Deal, and thus cut the tie that binds the citizenry to the federal government. The Republicans have never understood that the country does best when its citizens do best, all of its citizens and not just those interested in hiring household help. Their ideal is a country with lots of poor people in it. I don't think this is going to work at all-- the New Deal was not something that sprang from FDR's brain, but an absolute necessity dictated by the fact that it is impossible to maintain a feudal system any more. The New Deal was an antidote for revolution or totalitarianism, and it worked. Something like it will come along again once the Republicans have fucked everything up, and they will go away and stew for another half-century before they trouble us again. Don't worry, be happy.
House of Meat
- Sunday, November 18, 2001 at 22:43:35 (EST)

My two cents are: Looking at today's Patriotism its being used more like a sledgehammer. I'd say it was McCarthyism all dressed up in new clothes.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, November 18, 2001 at 21:05:05 (EST)

My two cents are: Look, the right has always had an urge to limit individual freedom. The only part of the Bill of Rights they care about is the second amendment. Freedom to them is something that should be enjoyed by business, not people. Remember all that hoo-hah about their fear that Clinton would declare martial law and suspend the Constitution. They just wanted to be sure he didn't steal their idea.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, November 18, 2001 at 20:46:40 (EST)

My two cents are: At least the right-wing have begun to turn on themselves. That's pretty much fun. Now that Lil' Bush and his missus became lie-brals, it's only for Tom DeLay and Osama Bin Falwell to usurp the mantle of true Repugnicanism. Pretty soon Shrub, who now can say "Pashtun" with impunity, will be understanding what the Kyoto Protocols are all about, once his good amigo, rootin'-tootin' Putin explains it all to him. War amongst the reichies. Kewl.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, November 18, 2001 at 20:45:19 (EST)

My two cents are: Maybe the silence from the right is coming from the same fears that has kept me from saying anything. The idea that it is unpatriotic. I hope they will come around and be true to themselves.
Mary
- Sunday, November 18, 2001 at 19:50:41 (EST)

My two cents are: Where are all the conservatives...the WACO bunch? Weren't they hollering against the very laws they are so proud of Bush for passing? That is what scares me the most, in their hearts they must fear all of this. I know if Clinton were doing this there would be an earful.
Mary
- Sunday, November 18, 2001 at 19:48:17 (EST)

My two cents are: Those last posts were mine.
Mary
- Sunday, November 18, 2001 at 19:36:15 (EST)

My two cents are: I'm not talking about the war,I'm just talking about all these frightening assaults on our liberties. Somehow to say this is wrong is to suppor the taliban. Now how it leaped to that extreme, I don't know, but it has. That's spooky. I won't talk of the war, because like most Americans I have no idea what we are into.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, November 18, 2001 at 19:35:12 (EST)

My two cents are: I still repect authority but only when authority is operating in obedience to the constitution, or whatever agreement governs them. I keep comparing this to the blind obedience that eventually cost the lives of all the Jews in Germany. Nationalism, propaganda and fear were really the tools of power that Hitler used initially, and he could not have had them without the people's consent.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, November 18, 2001 at 19:27:53 (EST)

My two cents are: Well, In my youth I may have been told to protest was unamerican and unpatriotic, and to respect authority. That was wrong then and IT IS WRONG NOW! It goes against every true American. I can't sit idly by and let the idea of Patriotism silence me. If I'm considered an anti-patriot and have to fear my government for my views, so be it. I was over on the Freerepublic and the excuses they are making for the obvious destruction of liberties is sickening. They exposed to me just what I would be if I didnt speak out. Even Laura Bush said to speak out for the women in Afghanistan. If we dont want the equivalent to come to pass we need to speak out against the manner the executive office is misusing the constitution. This begins with the undemocratic election some of us would call a coup and continues to the junta that is setting in place its agenda. Call me whatever you want, I see no conflict in going against what could evolve into tyranny from the WAR ON TERROR and being an American or a patriot.
Mary
- Sunday, November 18, 2001 at 19:22:17 (EST)

My two cents are: Now Cal Thomas is giving credit to McGovern. What is happening in the conservative camp?
Anonymous.
- Sunday, November 18, 2001 at 17:49:14 (EST)

My two cents are: Well, there's no point ot any of it now. Missed the show, but I did have the pleasure of attending a death metal show at this club at Pier 96. All ages welcome. I was the oldest. Riley was the youngest. 6 bands. LOUD.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, November 18, 2001 at 13:03:33 (EST)

My two cents are: Mt. San Bruno might be above the fog. Could be the best viewing in the state if there is a thick low fog that blots the city lights.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, November 18, 2001 at 12:40:23 (EST)

My two cents are: Sure, there are a hundred different ways to go, but from the City I figure the smoothest is through Orinda. When I lived on Vine and Henry with Captain Billy, and later on Henry itself, and was learning the night sky, I'd go up the town side, and come back down Marin to a midway cross-street. I almost never went up Marin, out of respect for the clutch, and because there is no advantage to it that I can figure. I wouldn't use Marin off 80 either. Albany farther west than you need to go, or at least you're going around the square instead of up the hypotenuse.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, November 18, 2001 at 12:24:03 (EST)

My two cents are: Can't I just take the Albany exit off 80, then hit Marin Ave. and head up to Grizzly Peak at that traffic circle?
Anonymous.
- Sunday, November 18, 2001 at 11:27:14 (EST)

My two cents are: Go to Orinda. Turn left on San Pablo Dam Road. Just outside town, opposite the EBMUD office turn left and drive up Grizzly Peak about three miles. There's a viewpoint or overlook. Darkest skies in the area. Clear.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, November 18, 2001 at 10:32:56 (EST)

My two cents are: How am I supposed to watch the leavings of Comet Tempel-Tuttle in all this dense fog??
Anonymous.
- Sunday, November 18, 2001 at 03:17:14 (EST)

My two cents are: he House package is little more than a rehashed corporate wish list, doling out $115 billion in tax breaks to big business and the wealthiest taxpayers, and a comparatively measly $14 billion to poor and moderate-income families in the form of tax rebates and unemployment benefits. And while the tax cuts for the haves are permanent, those for the have-nots are good for only one year. What's more, the money given to corporate America is given without conditions -- not tax credits tied to investments, but handouts more likely to end up in CEOs' Christmas bonuses than back in the economy. All you really need to know about the true nature of this bill can be found in a largely unnoticed provision that makes permanent a gaping tax loophole that was about to expire. It allows multinational corporations such as GE and Ford to avoid paying taxes by shifting profits to their offshore subsidiaries -- but only if those profits remain overseas. Tell me, how exactly is providing incentives to keep money out of our economy supposed to stimulate our economy? The House bill is so outrageous that even some top GOP officials are balking. In a rare slip from the party line, Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill colorfully criticized it as "show business." Rep. Greg Ganske, R-Iowa, one of seven Republicans who voted against the bill, labeled it "an early Christmas card" for "already profitable corporations." And the president's budget director, Mitch Daniels, informed the nation in a poetic outburst that "the corral gates" have been blown open and "the animals are running loose." The galloping beasts in this case are corporate lobbyists and their chums on the Hill, Dick Armey and Tom DeLay chief among them. The juiciest goodie in this box of corporate bon-bons, the retroactive repeal of the corporate alternative minimum tax, will lead to $25 billion in instant corporate rebate checks to needy companies such as IBM (slated to get $1.4 billion), GM ($833 million) and GE ($671 million). Of the $25 billion refund, over $6.3 billion will be given to just 14 corporations. Not surprisingly, these 14 lucky winners have been regular and generous political donors. Over the last 10 years, they've poured almost $15 million in soft money into the national committees of both parties. It turns out that may be the smartest investment they've ever made. Such a blatant quid pro quo is so indefensible that the main champions of the grandly named Economic Security and Recovery Act aren't even trying very hard to justify it. Take Armey's wan effort on "Meet the Press." There he was, half-heartedly trying to convince Tim Russert that we need these massive tax cuts because the last round of massive tax cuts were not geared to stimulating the economy. Really? Wasn't that him at a House subcommittee hearing back in March, selling the last tax cut bill as "just the shot in the arm that this economy needs"? Armey then offered us all a lecture on how big corporate giveaways are the best way to create new jobs. Unfortunately, the facts don't bear him out. The $15 billion Congress just handed the airline industry hasn't kept it from laying off 140,000 workers. Armey also called enhanced unemployment benefits "a feeble response" and not "commensurate with the American spirit." He went on to promise that the new stimulus package "will create 170,000 new jobs next year alone." Not exactly the most heartening news to the 7.8 million people currently unemployed in the country. What are the 7.63 million left on the sidelines supposed to do, sit around and cross their fingers, hoping one or two of the lucky 170,000 will eventually rub their new bosses the wrong way? Is that more in keeping with the American spirit?
go Arianna go
- Sunday, November 18, 2001 at 02:59:52 (EST)

My two cents are: If GW graduates from reading The Very Hungry Caterpillar to the Harry Potter books then and only then will I believe he has fulfilled his potential.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, November 18, 2001 at 02:39:48 (EST)

My two cents are: I TOLD you Junior had become Kennedy. Klayman figured it out. But you guys, well, No-o-o. Gosh. Boy George IS Kennedy, Laura IS now become Gloria "Feminazi" Oppression-of-Women Steinem. The Coup has happened already!!$#@!. I thought our boys already DONE it when Tony Scaly (Scaly Tony?) cast his one man one vote. Hey. Wow. Thsi sucks, pardon my French. F*ckin' socialsits. Where to can we flee? Will now Stern Ann lead us to vicktry?
Mindy Parsnip
- Sunday, November 18, 2001 at 00:46:01 (EST)

My two cents are: All easily explained. See, as an astronomer -- or at least somebody who plays one on this board -- I have a keen insight into the phenomenon we call "alternate universes." Basically, the Klayman who obsesses Clinton is from our (or the "normal") universe. On the other hand, the blue meanie who brings up all sorts of nasties about dear sweet Shrubbie and his daddy is a resident of the alternate (or "abnormal") universe. You can usually spot these evildoers by their trademark goatees. Same goes for Libertarians. I mean, they were really nice people when they joined us in colorful conversations about Clinton's cock and Monica's dress, but when they started calling Mr. Bush "King George" for his restrictions of civil liberties post 9/11 -- well, there you go, the alternate universe again!
Glimpse
- Sunday, November 18, 2001 at 00:09:35 (EST)

My two cents are: The greatest sedition is silence By William Rivers Pitt "The principle office of history I take to be this: to prevent virtuous actions from being forgotten, and that evil words and deeds should fear an infamous reputation with posterity." ~Tacitus November 7, 2001-The argument is simple: it is in the best interest of the nation that nothing controversial regarding the administration be publicly discussed. To do so would undermine all efforts currently directed towards bringing the terrorists to justice, and would unnerve a populace bombarded hourly with reports of anthrax contaminations. The maintenance of this best-interest argument relies completely on the idea that the administration deserves total freedom of action, and the belief that everything it is doing is directed toward protecting us and capturing the butchers. The great trust Americans are laying at the feet of George W. Bush and his administration is being horribly abused. Under normal circumstances, e.g. the days before September 11, this would perhaps raise some eyebrows and earn a goodly share of vitriol on the editorial pages. Now, with all that is at stake, such abuses are criminal and treasonous. Worse, they are being ignored in the name of unity and patriotism by much of the media. If the American people come to the realization that those responsible for their safety are nothing more than 21st century robber barons, the delicate latticework of faith and tightly controlled fear within the populace will shatter. God help us all if this should occur, for it will signify nothing less than total victory for the murderers who attacked us. Under this patriotic cloak of absolute faith, the Bush administration is engaged in crimes and constitutional perversions that besmirch the very essence of our American system. Its actions undermine the premise described above completely and totally. It does not deserve our trust, and does not deserve the shroud of trusting silence that has been enveloped around it. It must be called to account for it. As Bill Moyers so eloquently stated in his speech on October 16, the greatest sedition at this point is our silence.http://www.onlinejournal.com/Commentary/Pitt110701/pitt110701.html
Anonymous.
- Sunday, November 18, 2001 at 00:09:02 (EST)

My two cents are: http://www.bushwatch.net/bushmoney.htm
Go Larry, Go!
- Sunday, November 18, 2001 at 00:02:21 (EST)

My two cents are: No more real troglodytes. They have lost all pride in their ignorance, fear, and hatred, and have thrown in the towel. Good. They sucked.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 23:32:25 (EST)

My two cents are: Looks as if Klayman has become a flaming liberal. Now watch the liberal media make him their darling.
Glimpse
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 23:21:20 (EST)

My two cents are: Repeated Obstructions In Defamation Case Against Accused Spy Wen Ho Lee Contrary to Court Rulings, Bush Justice Lawyers Refuse to Make Witnesses, Documents Available (Washington, DC) Judicial Watch, the public interest law firm that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, filed today a motion for sanctions against Bush Justice Department lawyers for obstructing discovery in a defamation case against accused spy and admitted felon Wen Ho Lee. Judicial Watch represents Notra Trulock, the former chief of the Energy Department�s intelligence operations, in his defamation claim against Lee and others for falsely accusing Trulock of racial bias in requesting that Lee�s actions be investigated.The case is before a federal court in the Eastern District of Virginia.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 23:20:13 (EST)

My two cents are: (Washington, DC) Judicial Watch, the non-partisan public interest law firm that investigates and prosecutes government abuse and corruption, was astonished to learn today that President Bush intends to name the Justice Department after the late Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy. �The ethical and legal standards of the Bush administration will sink low if the President carries through with his plan of naming the nation�s top law enforcement agency after someone who spent his tenure in the Justice Department trampling on the civil rights of all Americans.stated Judicial Watch Chairman and General Counsel, Larry Klayman.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 23:15:57 (EST)

My two cents are: Did the Buffs win today? Does Corso ride the mechanical bull? How did the Beavers do? The Terps? Who's going to the Zucchini Bowl?
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- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 22:20:36 (EST)

My two cents are: T-Shirt with American Flag Click on picture for a larger view NEW Patriotic T-Shirt Quality Hanes Brand 50/50 With "Waving American Flag". Available in White OR Ash Grey Sizes Child through 3X Price $13.95 plus (S+H)
Today's Bush Country Flag Code Violation
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 22:14:49 (EST)

My two cents are: A plant, yuk, what kind of plant? Why a Laughing Stalk, they grow all over Missouri.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 22:08:22 (EST)

My two cents are: I think it's nice that Pete has Glint to look up to. Pete seems needy in that sort of way. Probably lonely in that Autumn wind moon garden and all. Guy needs a boat.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 22:01:52 (EST)

My two cents are: Pete's always been the real halfwit here. Jeremiah was just a plant. The sand leaking out from the the bottom of Bulgy Whale.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 21:58:26 (EST)

My two cents are: That's a tough call for sure. An atom bomb or a 757. Got to give that one some thought.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 21:56:54 (EST)

My two cents are: Accidentally had my radio on AM and was inadvertantly exposed to about ten minutes of Dr. Laura. Feel like I need a bath.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 21:56:20 (EST)

My two cents are: To be gallant about it, though, Laura undoubtedly realized that if she graded Pete on what he learned he would just end up in her class again, year after year until he broke the desk with his increasing bulk. She made the right decision, for herself if not for the rest of us.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 21:56:04 (EST)

My two cents are: As for Pete, he's so dumb he has been quizzing Glint on whether a nuclear explosion could create as much destruction as the World Trade Center fly-in. Now that's pretty dumb, don't you think? In the "Nuclear Age" and all? Maybe Laura Bush was his teacher, and didn't get all frothed up about whether the kids were learning anything.
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- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 21:54:03 (EST)

My two cents are: If we do send a destroyer, let's be sure to station a lookout to discourage the row-boat from clamping on to its hull and blowing a hole in it.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 21:45:17 (EST)

My two cents are: NOV. 26: ATTORNEY General John Ashcroft announces a plan to incarcerate anyone who is thinking about committing a crime. "Since the Sept. 11 terrorist attack, we have become ever more aware that thinking about a crime is the first step in committing one. "Too long have we sat back passively and waited for the criminals to act. We have allowed terrorists free rein to plan and ponder and refine and consider. Is that any way to protect the American people? The president does not think so. As he said just last week, 'A person who thinks like a terrorist is a terrorist.' " Those suspected of thinking like terrorists will be arrested under a special executive order. They will be taken to an undisclosed location different from the undisclosed location where Dick Cheney lives. They will be tried in secret, sentenced and executed. Unless they're innocent, of course. Ashcroft does not think it likely that many will be innocent. "You have the greatest law enforcement people in the world right here in the United States," Ashcroft says. "They have sacrificed themselves for the country. They believe in this country. They would not act hastily, but when they do act, we want to support them with everything we've got." Ashcroft says that he has been briefed on the constitutional issues, and he does not believe they pose any difficulties. "We are at war. These are extraordinary times. We know that the American people strongly support the president to do whatever he feels is appropriate. In fact, we're counting on it." DEC. 14: THE president announces a crackdown on "funny-looking men with mustaches." "We have heard from people across the country. They are frightened. We live in frightening times. And the thing that frightens them, quite frankly, is funny-looking men with mustaches. They are everywhere, in malls, in airports, even in churches. "Starting today, federal officers will be patrolling the streets, looking for funny-looking men with mustaches. These men will be taken into protective custody. They will be encouraged to shave their mustaches and, when appropriate, not to speak in a foreign accent -- or, even worse, a foreign language." The president adds: "We are at war. I know the American people support me in any darned thing I want to do, and I am grateful for that." JAN. 5: VICE President Dick Cheney today announces a sweeping new Homeland Defense Order, a plan whereby every resident of the United States (except those on military duty or working for the government) would be transported to "Patriotic Resorts" for their own protection. "This great country is just too damn big for sensible law enforcement. People move here, people move there, la la la. That's stupid. If we are going to protect people, we need to know where they are." The plan, which will be in effect only as long as "a viable terrorist threat" exists, assigns every citizen a lovely bed in one of the sprawling resorts that have been under construction since Sept. 14. The "campuses," as they are also called, are a little barren right now, but Cheney emphasizes that "the American spirit of volunteerism will make these places shipshape in no time." According to Cheney, Americans will feel safer behind electrified fences inside a heavily mined perimeter. "I'd like to see Osama bin Laden get through our state-of-the-art monitoring equipment," he says. He adds: "Sure, there's a downside. But this is war. We know our citizens want to make sacrifices; we're just showing them which ones to make." It'll be just like summer camp, except for the large watchtowers.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 21:44:18 (EST)

My two cents are: I think we should send a destroyer to Yemen and sink that goddamn row-boat.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 21:43:52 (EST)

My two cents are: Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot to explain. The customary protection is either the Omaha Police Department or the Port Authority Police Department. Or maybe it's a castle. Castles are alway good for protection in hostile ports, especially if they have boiling oil facilities. Tell you what, though, I've never been to military school in Nebraska or any other corn-belt state, so I don't know much about protection against rowboat attack in foreign ports, and you'll have to ask Glint for the real skinny.
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- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 21:41:43 (EST)

My two cents are: Uh, you know, CUSTUMARY. As is the custom. Clinton was trying to chart his own course, ignore the customs of his predecessors, like Ronald Reagan, a great man, who observed all customary protections of our boys arbitrarily stationed in friendly places. Remember, only eight GIs died in Grenada. Only 241 Marines were lost in the Beirut campaign. Customary protections were in place.
Glimpse
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 21:39:49 (EST)

My two cents are: Just so you other liberals don't get too worried about the military tribunals, the idea is applicable to only one perp, and that's the bull-goose troglodyte Osama bin Laden. There are two motives: 1) it's "outreach" to Osama. The idea is to let him know that if he surrenders he won't get a public trial, no chance to spout off and rally the troops from the witness stand. That's because catching Osama alive and putting him in jail and on trial would probably cost us a lot of sky-scrapers or the equivalent. 2) the second motive is to be able to kill him without a lot of ceremony if we do catch him by mistake or if he figures a way to turn himself in. I know that the tribunal idea is tough to take with an asshole like Ashcroft running the Department of Robert F. Kennedy, but, see, the tribunes will be professional American soldiers, so we at least know that unlike Republican judges they are trained to respect America and to defend the Constitution. I think with Colin and Snippy in the driver's seat, Cheney in the bubble, and Ascroft growing floppy breasts, we can get away with the tribunal idea this one time, until Osama is dead.
House of Meat
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 21:35:47 (EST)

My two cents are: Yo, Glint! It's time to put up or shut up. What "customary protection" are you blatering about. Explain yourself, Jism Boy.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 21:34:36 (EST)

My two cents are: Yeah, but he sent those helicopters to Iran without checking the tire pressure and adding oil.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 21:31:20 (EST)

My two cents are: I think it's charming the way Glint refers to a President as "commander in chief", as in "Carter was pathetic as a commander in chief. Impotently waffling between Mr. peace and Mr. tough guy failure. Another loser foisted on this country courtesy of the Liberals." He's a very military-oriented fellow, this Glint, and I suspect he went to military school when he was back in the Corn State. Usually, the only thinking about war that people from Nebraska do is hoping that they won't have to go to it, but Glint is a regular Mr. tough guy, not a waffle to him. Even so, I think he is selling Carter a little short. After all, Jimmy Carter never sent any American battleships to fuel up in ports belonging to our hostile friends, without the customary protection. Think about it.
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- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 21:23:40 (EST)

My two cents are: Robert Kennedy is probably rolling over in his grave after tha comparison.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 21:13:46 (EST)

My two cents are: Enough about Rush would have done. What would Harry Truman have done? To be fair to Peggy Noonan (for whome I am beginning to lose respect), she started her piece by talking about Truman but trying to make the reader she was talking about Little Bush. Stuff like: he was a scrawny little rube, dumb as a post, couldn't talk good, wore suits the wrong size, and then she reveals: It was Harry Truman she was talking about all along, and not Little Bush! But one thing she says is something about how he followed a charismatic wildly popular President. Later on, she has to take that back, saying that Truman followed Roosevelt, but the great President that Snippy followed was Ronald Reagan, not that asshole Clinton. Good save, Peg! The problem with the piece was that Truman was smart, very well-read, a coherent and even eloquent speaker who wrote his own speeches, a combat veteran, a successful senator, honest, vice-president to Franklin D. Roosevelt, a moral man with strong convictions, a leader, despised and viciously attacked by all Republicans, and of vastly greater stature than Snippy (or Ronald Reagan) in any measurable way. Harry Truman was twice the man and twice the liberal that Snippy will ever grow to be-- which is not to discount Snippy, because there aren't many men of Truman's stature in history. Peggy Noonan should give it a rest, maybe work on duck-taping the cracks in her safe room some more and snap some digital photos of possible terrorists, as all good Americans should be doing.
House of Meat
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 21:07:43 (EST)

My two cents are: If Hillary had killed anyone, besides Vincent Foster, Rush would have blown out his inner ear in outrage.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 20:34:32 (EST)

My two cents are: Mrs. Bush gave what aides said was the first weekly presidential radio address given in full by a first lady. If Hillary had done this Rush would be ranting for a week about the Co-President.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 19:42:57 (EST)

My two cents are: Bush knows his base isn't big enough. He lost in Florida.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 19:16:57 (EST)

My two cents are: What are they trying to do? Why would they want to distance themselves from their base? Republicans sure don't appreciate those comparisons. Where's the great Ronald Reagan?
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 19:14:08 (EST)

My two cents are: Peggy Noonan gushes that Bush is positively Trumanesque! Ashcroft compares himself to Robert Kennedy.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 19:10:18 (EST)

My two cents are: Calm and soothing except to those who dare cross the street. Then she's a fucking terrorist on wheels.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 18:57:44 (EST)

My two cents are: Calm and soothing, eh? How can she be calm after what she did? I say, we find out what's in the medicine cabinet.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 18:13:29 (EST)

My two cents are: "The calm soothing former school teacher. The sort who doesn't froth about peanut butter and pronunciation of "nuclear" not "new-clur". ..... Glint - Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 10:53:41 (EST)"....... Glint, that shows how little you know about good third-grade school-teaching. I good public-school teacher, who confronts a classroom with bright kids in it, with normal kids in it, and with fuckups in it, has to choose her battles. If she's got a kid who doesn't talk too good, and is otherwise generally a fuckup, she doesn't waste time frothing about his pronunciation. She concentrates on the kids who can profit from instruction. Laura Bush is too smart a lady to try to improve her man in ways where he is so obviously not capable of improving. She might buy him some neckties that don't have mylar twinkle-thread in them. She might buy him an Ab-Crusher�. She might get him a dashboard Jesus, or an etiquette book, or a Penis-Pump�. But she will never, ever, give him a dictionary or a set of vocabulary flash-cards.
House of Meat
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 17:34:42 (EST)

My two cents are: "Is this story ever going to go anywhere? Are we almost to the good part or is there still more about the steam, dobermans, and men's biceps and thighs that must first be endured? Anonymous. - Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 12:06:52 (EST)...." Well, there was no steam. "Humidity" was mentioned, but a rise in the humidity of a room containing several dozen female teen-age Christian virgins who haven't been near a young man, or any man with a chin, since last summer is not necessarly an indicator of steam. I believe that the humidity in the room resulted from an involuntary moistening of certain teen-age virgin body parts, and that is the only reason I mentioned it. I mentioned the dobermans only because later on in the story they come to play an important role. If you had ever seen Don Bigelow's biceps, you would know that a mention of them, when talking about Don Bigelow, could not be avoided. The thighs were your thighs, which are smaller around than Don's biceps. So it all fits.
House of Meat
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 17:22:55 (EST)

My two cents are: Well, here's todays Neighborhood Notes (I'll try to cut the superfluous detail-- just did that to inspire Pete, show him that it's possible to use lots of words without getting their meanings wrong): Just out bolting a new starter into the truck and heard the neighbor mom bragging to her friend that she gets $9.50/hour, and I had to chuckle. Guess my $17.50 still tops the neighborhood (Iggy charges me out for a lot more, but then he owns the shop.) Out and about getting the motor I see that there's a new check-cashing outlet in the center on my side of the big road. The one on the other side next to Tapatio Bros. has a new plywood window where somebody without a check busted out the old one to get at the money, though I don't know when they would have done it because it's a 24-hour outlet. There's also a new nail shop over there, "L.A. Nail Talk", in case you don't like the work they do at China Nails across the street. And Star Doughnuts is advertising cappuchino in the window, so the whole neighborhood is going upscale. Got a fresh $2.69 loaf of rye bread at the Dollar Store for a dollar. It's a cool day, the sun is shining. I got all hardwood floors and probably the best wage rate on the block, and I don't give a damn who beats Yale. Life is good.
House of Meat
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 17:05:11 (EST)

My two cents are: Go on, go on, talk about zygotes and all those other foreign things, but no one can forget how Laura Bush sold all us girls out. Who would think that someone with a driving record like hers could afford to sell we ladies down the swamp, or whatever it is. I support less education for women. I support less education for men. I support less of everything, but a lot more prayer. It worked for those girls in Afghanistan, didn't it, and they said they'd only done twenty percent of everything they were accused of doing. Is that breaking the law, I ask you? Hah.
Mindy Parsnip
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 14:58:55 (EST)

My two cents are: As an impartial observer, I think that Glint is as flummoxed by his new knowledge that sanctified holy girls lust in their crotches as much as he is disturbed by knowing that Laura Bush killed an unwitting pedestrian. He is probably nursing both wounds at some level, during the beer breaks, but I believe his deeper contemplation is reserved for the Jesus girls. After all, how many astronomers are going to be thinking about Laura Bush when they squeeze the soap-bar over the sinks watching the Leonids? He'll pick a missionary chick sandwich or Betty Boop every year, I'm certain of it.
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- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 14:42:46 (EST)

My two cents are: Is htat Harvard-Yale or Princeton-Yale? I always fogret.
ePete�
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 14:34:01 (EST)

My two cents are: Go, 'Gotes!
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 14:16:12 (EST)

My two cents are: Nah. Like everyone else in America, Glint is monitoring the game of the year, Ringworms vs. Zygotes.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 14:11:13 (EST)

My two cents are: Glint is still reeling from that shot about Laura Bush, natural born killer.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 14:09:00 (EST)

My two cents are: FDS?
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- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 14:05:35 (EST)

My two cents are: It's getting pretty bad when you have to imagine your troglodytes, Glimpse.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 14:04:55 (EST)

My two cents are: Faux Glimpse spotted at 11:57:47. I do not think sex is necessarily dirty. It can in fact be clean if you use the right detergents. I recommend Blue Cheer, followed by liberal application of FDS to the mucus tissues. There is nothing so exciting as a bath with your loved one in a tub with a cup and a half of Cheer, followed by thumbing the cap of an FDS bottle, and maybe a little Euro-gel for lubrication. Of course, it wouldn't work with a weak-chinned woman, unless it was Betty Boop you were imaging all this about.
Glimpse
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 14:03:13 (EST)

My two cents are: I celebrate on Not a Crook Day. I celebrate a man who had the honor and the patriotism to resign. I celebrate a man who did not stick around to drag his country through the horror of impeachment. I celebrate a virtuous man, honest enough to come into America's television viewing areas and tell it like it was. I celebrate a man who was not a crook. Doingk.
Pete�
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 13:55:31 (EST)

My two cents are: This is a tough town for detail. But there's a point, and the point is, those christer girls that go on humanitarian relief efforts, the bubbly waters run deep in those dames. Especially the ones with the fervor to try to convert fundamentalist Muslims. I guess you have to be there with them when it happens, inside the mosquito netting of Christ, but the fact is that missionary fervor in many young women is the inner woman culturally interpreted or debased by an upbringing in the Church. These are kids ruled by the various glands following glandular secretions in turn ordered by DNA spawned slowly over a million years of the particular thread of evolution leading to that particular kid, and the ones who are hot for Jesus are expressing a temporarily truncated procreational impulse that is not denied when subjected to appropriate stimulus. Or, to put it in a historical context, Joan of Arc would have bred like a mink if they hadn't burned her up before the dew had fermented to a useful tanginess. Or, to put it bluntly, missionary girls are hot. That could be why Glint is attracted to them, far be it from me to speculate on that.
House of Meat
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 13:49:52 (EST)

My two cents are: Chelsea's inner woman? Well, she carries the genetic strain of X-treme sexuality that pretty much determines just what that inner woman must dictate to the outer woman. If you catch my drift. This chick is destined for world leadership.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 12:46:16 (EST)

My two cents are: This is the anniversary of the day Nixon said "I am not a crook."
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- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 12:41:44 (EST)

My two cents are: There was a horrible thumping sound. I still dream about it. And the feathers!
Patience Willoughby
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 12:40:04 (EST)

My two cents are: I killed an owl once. I ran into it at night with the Volvo. It was awful.
Patience Willoughby
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 12:38:32 (EST)

My two cents are: I think the dobermans and the biceps were important to the d�roulement of the story. A good gothic sex tale has to have an atmosphere, the mood set with detail, so that when the wanderer with the heroic chin goes to the beautiful wanting blonde virgin for the fornication scene the reader is prepared. There was going to be a fornication scene, wasn't there?
Buster Terwilliger
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 12:37:13 (EST)

My two cents are: Ever kill anyone, Mindy? Hell, I'll marry you if you say yes.
Pete, pat. pending
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 12:34:16 (EST)

My two cents are: Oh, I don't care a fig that Gloria Steinem isn't a porker, much less that she just got married, and I haven't and nobody else in my litle Texas sorority neither. Huh. No, I care about Ann Coulter and prom dates, and who's going to do the decorations, me or Muffy Witherspoon! Will the ribbons and ballons be pink or purple? Pink! PINK!! That's what makes America great! So there.
Mindy Parsnip
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 12:29:33 (EST)

My two cents are: What about Chelsea's inner woman?
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 12:24:38 (EST)

My two cents are: Once a woman has killed someone, they say her juices really kick into overdrive. The only way to soothe her tortured sould is to lose herself in wild monkey sex with her male owner, even if it be on the Oval Office carpet.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 12:22:35 (EST)

My two cents are: Gloria Steinem? What tragedies has SHE endured? Did she ever kill anybody while on a drunken joyride with a carload of gal-pals? Steinem's inner woman is unblemished and lacking in the things that build character. Like vehicular manslaughter. Bush comes by her feminism honestly.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 12:17:01 (EST)

My two cents are: Oh, and I don't care if Laura Bush IS a porker. She has no right to take her veil off, much less whine about anybody else's. So there.
Mindy Parsnip
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 12:16:01 (EST)

My two cents are: White-GLOVE-doffer, I mean! See how upset I am?
Mindy Parsnip
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 12:13:11 (EST)

My two cents are: Who says the guy she killed was innocent? Is anybody really innocent?
Glimpse
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 12:12:48 (EST)

My two cents are: I'm VERY upset. First, our dear Junior becomes a Kennedy, and now his little woman, his wife, his helpmeet, turns into arch-feminazi Gloria Steinem, whining on national radio about the oppression of women?? She's supposed to be the first Lady, for heaven's sakes! When will this outrage end? Laura Bush, traitor, whitelove-doffer!!
Muffy Parsnip
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 12:12:06 (EST)

My two cents are: I think that reference to Laura Bush's felonious history was too much to stand up to. It's one thing to blithely yammer about the "inner woman," quite another to gainsay the broad's soul of darkness when there's real innocent blood involved.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 12:11:29 (EST)

My two cents are: What I like about Glint is how he stays and defends his position even in the face of withering assaults form the E-vil socialists. The guy's a regular MK.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 12:07:18 (EST)

My two cents are: Is this story ever going to go anywhere? Are we almost to the good part or is there still more about the steam, dobermans, and men's biceps and thighs that must first be endured?
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 12:06:52 (EST)

My two cents are: On the other hand, paradoxically, I do find jism fascinating and I'm in conflict about this.
Glimpse
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 12:05:07 (EST)

My two cents are: So, you don't want to hear the rest of the story. OK, I can handle that. Back to the public opinion ratings of the past and present first ladies. I'm going to make a prediction. I predict that when the official list of Most Admired Women comes out at the end of the year, Laura Bush is going to come in first. Just think of it! A few short years ago nobody knew she was even nominated! I predict that Laura is going to beat out even Oprah. Sure, Mother Theresa is dead, but the competition is still stiff. The country has had it up to here with ashtray dents in the White House plaster. Laura Bush is in, Hillary Clinton is out, first-lady-wise.
House of Meat
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 12:04:17 (EST)

My two cents are: ????? I don't understand. There are women who like sex? I thought the Bible said they just grit their teeth and think patriotic thoughts. I don't think I could be attracted to a woman who was interested in sex. It's so dirty.
Glimpse
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 11:57:47 (EST)

My two cents are: Standing there watching Don discuss the need for rules with his daughters, with the several dozen missionary virgins standing round, I felt the room becoming noticeably humid. Any roomful of teenage girls, even christer girls, is going to include a fair number that the Lord has equipped with the means to excite potential husbands with whom to populate the world in Christ. There was one virgin in particular, a steamy tall blonde girl who had that ineffable ability to communicate acute painful need by the way she seems to not be noticing you. You know what I'm talking about, Glint? The beautiful girl who knows she gives men a sense of urgency, and who is oceanically aware of you without any outward hint that she is aware of you? That's the kind of girl that it is worth sneaking past the Dobermans and over the razor-wire for some dark night, isn't it?
House of Meat
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 11:55:25 (EST)

My two cents are: ???
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- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 11:54:40 (EST)

My two cents are: Where was I? Oh, yes, the chin. So in this room, past the Dobermans and the razor-wire, with the several dozen missionary daughters, one missionary fireplug, and a young man from the dangerous Outside with a marvelous chin that could obviously not have grown on a face that had spent its life droning Bible verses at girls with muslined abs. With a chin like that, an outside boy or young man could have had eggs Benedict eyes like Vlad Putin and a banana-slug upper lip like president* Bush, or keg legs like Hillary or just could be all-around disgustingly ugly like Barbara Bush or Mamie Eisenhower, and could still have started forbidden juices oozing in that roomful of throttled nubility. For the chin, you see, is important.
House of Meat
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 11:43:17 (EST)

My two cents are: I was with Don Bigelow, a little missionary fireplug with upper arms the size of your thighs, and a short-sleeved shirt with the sleeves rolled up on the biceps in narrow folds such as used to be the practice among heavily-muscled men in such places as Whitefish, Montana. He had two daughters in the school, and they wanted to talk to him about some outrage that the school administration had perpetrated on a student. I don't know what it was, probably something like a kid being expelled after found with a Farah Fawcett poster, and they spoke in low voices so I never did get the details. It was in a sort of atrium or common room, and several dozen young missionary girls stood around, ostensibly to support Don's outraged daughters, but also, I believe, to admire my chin, which was in those days that of a young Adonis, a regular babe-magnet among chins.
House of Meat
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 11:30:58 (EST)

My two cents are: The missionary high-school story should go on to where I found a way to creep in past the guard-dogs and the razor-wire into the dorm-full of moist virgins, past the doctored bikinis hanging in the tropical breeze, and into the very Seraglio of Jesus and the waiting arms of let us say six or seven of them in sequence, wreaking great havoc amongst the Lord's hymens. But this did not happen. However, a couple of interesting things happened at the public swimming-pool, which I will not report now, and I did, in fact, once get inside the missionary school among the missionary virgins.
House of Meat
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 11:22:19 (EST)

My two cents are: Sure, she may have killed someone, but for 11 months now we haven't had any inner womanly keg legs in the white house.
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- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 11:12:45 (EST)

My two cents are: A land with draconian religious restrictions is just what a real church-lady aches for. These people thrive on the hope for a personal mini-Armageddon. That's probably why they go to places with draconion religious restrictions to begin with. It is almost certain that these two chicks were not part of any organized missionary effort, however, because I do not believe that any organized missionary outfits put effort into converting Muslims. Muslims simply don't convert to Christianity, and attempting to convert them is a waste of resources that is thoroughly recognized among prosthelyzing christers. Seeing those two babes describing their experiences reminded me of one of my own, because they were made up and primped to project the traditional innocent trendy sexuality of the missionary daughter, and as with most missionary babes I know they projected that old country-western quality of she's a angel in the day but a devil in mah arms at night. I once lived in a town where there was a missionary high-school where the missionaries sent their children from six or seven countries. There was a public swimming pool, and the kids went there in chaperoned groups, and since the girls could find only bikinis in the shops they all had bikini swimming suits with some sort of dull gray cloth sewn from the tops to the bottoms to keep the devil from entering via their belly-buttons. Man, these suits were really ugly, but you could sometimes see the interesting detailed shapes of those sweet midriffs when the muslin pulled tight against them. The kids would swim and dive, while the male chaperone would sit by the poolside with his Bible and annoy everyone by droning out verses in a loud monotonous missionary voice. Weirdest damn pool I ever visited, but you didn't have much choice. It wasn't just the missionaries, either. I once went swimming in a pair of cutoffs and some officious little asshole, probably a Muslim came up and said I couldn't swim in them, and yapped at me for several minutes, making the point that if he let me swim in cutoffs I would soon be wanting to swim in a business suit. For some reason this seemed wrong to him. There is more to this story, so stay tuned.
House of Meat
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 11:05:03 (EST)

My two cents are: The bitch KILLED somebody????????? The polster didn't mention that. Ugh.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 11:03:13 (EST)

My two cents are: Ah, the inner woman. Calm and soothign on the outside, totmented by images of the man she killed on the inside. It's understandable. Only a cold-blooded murderer could laugh such a thing off. Laura Bush is not a murderer. She's a killer, but not a murderer. Still, the visions must be horrible. The nightmares. Of course, the man's surviving family has known no peace since that horrible day.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 10:59:53 (EST)

My two cents are: Correct me if I'm wrong, Glint, but isn't Laura Bush also our only first lady with a vehicular manslaughter rap on her record? I'm pretty good at first lady trivia and I'm pretty sure that's true. I'm not sure what her blood alcohol reading was a the time of the "accident." Do you know?
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 10:54:33 (EST)

My two cents are: Yeah, with you it's all about looks. Nothing about the inner woman. The calm soothing former school teacher. The sort who doesn't froth about peanut butter and pronunciation of "nuclear" not "new-clur". No dings in the White House dryboard from flying lamps and ashtrays for about 11 months now.
Glint
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 10:53:41 (EST)

My two cents are: That's not a particularly promising topic, but what the hell. Digging down as deep as the scoop will go, I can't find any particular image of a first lady that I could approach that particular poll with if asked to participate. Thinking back into the long history I can remember that George Washington was married to Martha, and that's it. Then there was Dolly Madison, but she sewed the flag before she was first lady, if she ever was, I think. Then there was Mary Todd Lincoln, notable because she was loopy or became loopy, and because we read so much about AbeLincoln. Mrs. Wilson ran the country after Woodrow had his stroke, but that's all I know about her. Eleanor Roosevelt was a great lady, revered by the halt and the poor for her efforts on their behalf, but worse than keg-legged-- downright ugly in fact, with a chin like a tree-trunk fungus. Bess Truman and Mamie Eisenhower were midwestern frumps who probably made a mean Jell-O ring. Jackie Kennedy had big feet and breasts about the size of Rangpur limes, and a voice like Minnie Mouse. Lady Bird Johnson was a tough, smart lady who got the billboards off the freeways and bought a black dress for Lyndon's funeral while he was still in office. Pat Nixon, that poor woman. Then we had Betty Ford, a Sterno-sucking drunk remembered for the celebrity drying-out clinic that bears her name. Rosalind Carter seemed pretty stable for a christer. Nancy Reagan gave the best head in Hollywood and stayed thin, but she had thick ankles and no discernable heart. Bar Bush should have been in a side-show: see the Polar Bear Lady! She may have had keg legs, but never showed them or at least they never entered the public consciousness. Hillary Clinton was a professional with her own life, good for upsetting rubes from Maine to Mexico. Laura Bush seems like a pretty nice third-grade teacher. I don't think I could fairly responds to Gallup on any of them. It is pretty much a case of who gives a shit, relative to "image of a first lady." But this is an admittedly important topic, and I await further instructions.
House of Meat
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 10:44:29 (EST)

My two cents are: It's nice having a lady back in the white house and not some frumpy self serving cookie hating keg legged clymer: November 17, 2001 -- WASHINGTON - Laura Bush gets a thumbs-up from most Americans who say Mrs. Bush - not feisty predecessor Hillary Rodham Clinton - is their idea of what a first lady should be. Mrs. Bush fits the first-lady image of 56 percent of the public, while only 26 percent say Mrs. Clinton, now New York's junior senator, came close to their ideal, according to a new Fox News poll. Despite praise for Sen. Clinton in the aftermath of the World Trade Center attacks, the public remains split over her - 44 percent view her favorably and 44 percent unfavorably, compared to a 52-38 split in January, when she was sworn into office.
Glint
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 09:43:21 (EST)

My two cents are: Some women do o.k. without chins. Betty Boop for instance. But for some others, previously mentioned, it just doesn't work. <> CNN has been covering the life stories of the U.S. aid worker hostages that were recently freed in Afghanistan. Sure am glad they are out. Pretty bad when you're in a land with such draconian restrictions on religious expression.
Glint
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 09:18:34 (EST)

My two cents are: Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 08:57:11 (EST)

My two cents are: Carter was pathetic as a commander in chief. Impotently waffling between Mr. peace and Mr. tough guy failure. Another loser foisted on this country courtesy of the Liberals. But on the glass half full side at least his DNA did not ever have to take the witness stand.
Glint
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 07:20:36 (EST)

My two cents are: Complain about Carter though you might, about his never declaring war on Osama bin Laden, but he got a few things right. Fore example, as an Annapolis man he never would have sent a battleship into an Arab port to take on fuel without the customary protection. He would have gassed up in Nebraska, where it's safe.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 03:06:45 (EST)

My two cents are: I come for the lessons in military history. And to hear about how Snippy declared war on Osama bin Laden.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 03:03:29 (EST)

My two cents are: It still looks like a step up. We've got to have faith in Glint's ultimately developing a good heart. It's the only reason we're hear, except for info on the sinks.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 02:59:42 (EST)

My two cents are: Ask him. He's the expert on the sinks.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 02:58:25 (EST)

My two cents are: In the sinks?
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 02:56:32 (EST)

My two cents are: Not really. It sounds like he's jilted Linda Tripp and is now beating off to the two humanitarian aid bimbos.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 02:56:07 (EST)

My two cents are: You mean because he's commenting on high crimes and misdemeanors outside the Clinton jism bubble?
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 02:52:53 (EST)

My two cents are: ???????
It looked like a step up to me.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 02:49:04 (EST)

My two cents are: Geesh. Poor Glint is degrading to the pathetic asshole stage.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 02:47:14 (EST)

My two cents are: Great news about the humanitarian aid hostages getting out of Afghanistan. Bush made it look so easy. Why did Carter have to make it look so hard?
Glint
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 02:30:48 (EST)

My two cents are: He was thinking of Vlad Putin, the Butcher of Chechnya. Thinking about how a bandy-legged cheerleader and a wall-eyed KGB agent make as good a pair as Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, November 17, 2001 at 01:25:26 (EST)

My two cents are: Saw a news clip of GW and Laura going up the steps to enter Air Force One. At least two steps behind her man, good thing she didn't trip. He never could have come to her aid. You're on your own Laura. Make it up those steep steps the best you can. It didn't appear the President was going to offer his arm. He was on a roll full steam ahead.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 23:27:15 (EST)

My two cents are: The two church babes were just following Ann Coulter's incoherent orders.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 21:35:19 (EST)

My two cents are: So, all in all, it's been a pretty good news day, but a piss-poor troglodyte day. Pete never did approach coherence, and all Glint did was wrap himself in the bubble of Clinton's jism. Harlan St. Wolf is the only lucid troglodyte left, and he just pops in as a tourist.
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- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 21:28:21 (EST)

My two cents are: And the aptly-named Laura Bush is now saying that the Taliban is to strict about women. Says a woman should walk two steps behind her man, but eight steps and carrying a hundred-pound sack of camel feed on her head is too much.
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- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 21:26:05 (EST)

My two cents are: That old fraud Billy Graham is spouting his hatred of Islam through his son. The old faker figures that if he says Islam is an evil religion himself, he won't be invited to yap about God in the halls of power any more. Figures if God can sacrifice his son, he might as well do it, too.
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- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 21:24:17 (EST)

My two cents are: If Dick Cheney doesn't pop up pretty soon and not see his shadow, there's going to be more warfare. People will get killed. Pete has advanced the theory that if any of the people who get killed are Americans, E wins. If no Americans are killed, Pete wins. I don't understand this either, so don't even ask. It possibly has something with Pete's inability to pinch a loaf during Ramadan. Beyond that, your guess is as good as mine.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 21:19:31 (EST)

My two cents are: Secretary Rumsfield has just announced that if the Taliban doesn't give up in such and such a place there's going to be a battle and people will be killed. This guy is really catching on to the nuances of warfare.
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- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 21:15:46 (EST)

My two cents are: These two church ladies that got away from the Talibanese through the power of prayer are a trip. Just listening them for a sentence or two, I get the idea that they were as guilty as hell. That's exactly what your basic missionary babe is like, a heart full of Jesus and a head full of air. What a waste of nubility.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 21:14:25 (EST)

My two cents are: Ashcroft is trying to tell everyone that throwing away the Bill of Rights is just the same as Bobby Kennedy going after organized crime by arresting mafiosos for "spitting on the sidewalk," which of course Bobby did a lot. Figuratively speaking.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 21:10:44 (EST)

My two cents are: They're going to name the military tribunal program after Mitchell.
House of Meat
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 21:08:34 (EST)

My two cents are: President Bush plans to issue an executive order early next week naming the Justice Department after the late Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy, according to sources familiar with the matter.
Hey, what's wrong with naming it after John Mitchell?
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 21:07:33 (EST)

My two cents are: What's with the story on Drudge about Snippy being charged with bigamy?
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 21:04:53 (EST)

My two cents are: http://a740.g.akamai.net/f/740/606/1d/image.pathfinder.com/time/photoessays/defender/kennedy.jpg
One for your mantle, Pete
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 20:52:53 (EST)

My two cents are: Geeve Ashcroft a break. I theenk the secret military tribunals are good idea! That's how I do eet een my country.
Mullah Nazruddin
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 19:16:41 (EST)

My two cents are: Whoa. Safire revealed as yet ANOTHER Kennedy socialsit liebral ACLUer. Good god, what's this country coming to?
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 19:14:38 (EST)

My two cents are: Doink!
Pete�
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 19:07:37 (EST)

My two cents are: Safire? Nothing but a nattering nabob of negativism.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 19:00:07 (EST)

My two cents are: HA, SAFIRE! Just another screaming ACLU girlyman.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 18:33:08 (EST)

My two cents are: Don't worry. The treasonous Senator Leahy is trying to bollix the plan up.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 18:28:54 (EST)

My two cents are: "Misadvised by a frustrated and panic-stricken attorney general, a president of the United States has just assumed what amounts to dictatorial power to jail or execute aliens. Intimidated by terrorists and inflamed by a passion for rough justice, we are letting George W. Bush get away with the replacement of the American rule of law with military kangaroo courts." William Safire
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 17:55:33 (EST)

My two cents are: What were our battleships roaming all over the world for anyway, and why did they need to stop for fuel? Why didn't they gas up when they left Jersey? Don't they know it's wasteful to top off? What does a battleship need a full tank of fuel for anyway? Why aren't our battleships in Lake Erie, where they can defend us?
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- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 17:32:50 (EST)

My two cents are: I think history will ignore economics and chasing Arabs. I believe that it will concentrate on the battleship that the treasonous Clinten sent into port without the customary protections. He left that battleship in an Arab harbor without even a Combat Air Patrol overhead and no sub screen. When it was attacked by a rowboat, it had no way to defend itself. THAT is history.
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- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 17:24:45 (EST)

My two cents are: We don't know yet if the history books will tell the tale of both Bushes chasing an Arab and not catching him. If Snippy catches his Arab, then we will lose that book-end. If Snippy doesn't manage to catch his Arab, then we will have historical symmetry as well as economic symmetry.
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- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 17:19:23 (EST)

My two cents are: The technical term for a clueless geek is "clueless geek," according to my dictionary. Don't real men get to use technical terms? Are they supposed to just grunt and keep splicing the cable?
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- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 17:15:14 (EST)

My two cents are: The history books will ever tell the tale of Snippy's loss of the US popular vote, and of the voted vote in Florida. The history books will ever tell the tale of the glorious Clinton years of peace and prosperity, bookended by the depressing economic chaos of both Bushes, pere et fils.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 17:14:35 (EST)

My two cents are: But the jilted ones ARE worms, aren't they?
??????!
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 17:13:10 (EST)

My two cents are: Yes, but real men call those they dislike clueless geeks. Women just call them worms. Especially the jilted ones.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 16:05:26 (EST)

My two cents are: It's probably a result of all that complaining that Clinton was illigitimate because he didn't get over 50% of the total vote. Now that Snippy didn't even get more votes than his opponent, they are a little sensitive about his cheating for the electoral college win. That's why all the outrage and paranoid yapping when anyone tries to figure out exactly what happened. You don't commit crimes and then jump with joy when somebody tells the world how you did it.
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- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 15:50:00 (EST)

My two cents are: That URL someone posted down there is for a hilarious attempt by a right-wing journal to complain that it wasn't fair to count all the votes because it wasn't requested in Gore's action and it wasn't required by the Supreme Court. That would be weird, but it's a right-wing site and the looneys are taking Snippy's illigitimacy pretty hard.
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- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 15:46:31 (EST)

My two cents are: Do crazed worms pillage?
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 15:42:03 (EST)

My two cents are: "Worm" is a little strong. I prefer to think of Pete as a pitiful, sick geek, and of Glint as a clueless dufus with potential.
House of Meat
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 15:40:56 (EST)

My two cents are: It does appear that the worms are in fact speaking to each other.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 15:36:53 (EST)

My two cents are: Wormspeak?

- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 15:34:22 (EST)

My two cents are: 14:57:09 A worm by any other name is still a worm.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 15:21:16 (EST)

My two cents are: http://www.humaneventsonline.com/articles/11-19-01/carney.html
so who's lying now?
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 15:17:09 (EST)

My two cents are: Ashcroft? He's just a poor man's Dr. Mengele who, to his misfortune, looks like the firstborn of Janet Reno and the Three Stooges.
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- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 15:10:18 (EST)

My two cents are: What a pitiful, sick geek.
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- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 15:02:14 (EST)

My two cents are: I've decided to become a socialist. Tired of dealing with the Freepers. Tiem for some rampant chaos. I'll revert to the other spectrum when I need some order. But, starting right now, I am going on a crazing and pillaging expedition. Not sure I'll make it back alive. Wish me luck. Charge!
Pete�
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 14:57:09 (EST)

My two cents are: GW Bush would be a minor league dictator. John Ashcroft is in the major leagues.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 14:53:57 (EST)

My two cents are: If there are only 15 at your bar, it must be the cattle prodding that did them in. I have some interesting information to share in a few hours. Stand by....
Pete�
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 14:51:46 (EST)

My two cents are: "Tell us more about Clinton's jism, Glint" - Anonymous@14:24:07. Well, it took a bow when presented as evidence in a Federal investigation and was a principle character in the Starr Report. Linda Tripp even had an opportunity to scratch and sniff a patch of it. Could explain her once unfortunate appearance.
Gllint
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 14:50:53 (EST)

My two cents are: See, the E*vile witch is quaking in her boots because no Americans ahve actually yet been killed in afghanistan in this War. She used to crow about Cliton's turkey shoot in Kosovo, as if that was even a war, and the fact no one got killed. She is a certifiable idiot. We knew that.///Yeah, Glint, Woody's "page" just lowered my estimates for success enxt week. I still think we'll win, but now we might have to use a trick play or two. Maybe even a reverse! Yow!
Pete�
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 14:50:20 (EST)

My two cents are: Meanwhile, the airports are in a hell of a mess, and Coulter is wasting her time complaining about Clinton's ruminations on the Indians and, for some weird reason, Walter Cronkeit. I certainly hope that next week she again turns her withering dishonesty on whoever is responsible for making her wait in line. There have been new developments, and Glint doesn't know what to think about them.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 14:49:29 (EST)

My two cents are: I'm out of here until this evening. Maybe the trogs can regroup. This isn't enough to keep the mind alive. I'm taking at least 15 others with me to the bar.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 14:46:58 (EST)

My two cents are: Geesh! When they start making long stories short, what's left for the 20 of us to do?
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 14:42:52 (EST)

My two cents are: Why is Pete being so nasty about his Tootsie Fingers when she's not here? Is he trying to impress Glint with his calm, manly assessment of Mary? With the dismissive chuckle of the many-wedgied haole table-jumper? Pete should be careful. Glint is not one of the guides, and is not so easily impressed by faux b'wana. Glint will need actual facts, like an Ann Coulter essay, before he stops worrying about Mary.
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- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 14:42:07 (EST)

My two cents are: Well now, I don't know, Pete. The Buffaloes might be ranked #14 now like they were early in the 1990 season when they were 1-1-1. But they are #14 now at the *end* of the 2001 season. That's a long climb upward. That Woody Paige fellow sounds like one of those mosque (pronounced "mosk-ay) mullahs predicting America to crumble during Ramadan, if God wills. Let us hope coach Solich is geting his trick play book in order and that coach Barnett is learning the nuances of bull riding in a smoke filled room. <> "Now would be a good time for Glint to explain, once more, how Bush won the election fair and square" - Anonymous@13:23:35. To make a long story short Bush got more votes than Gore. Plonk!
Glint
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 14:39:58 (EST)

My two cents are: When Pete calls Bush a liar, is there anything left to fight for around here?
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 14:39:01 (EST)

My two cents are: Oh yeah, Meat! Now they're "wiley." Not moribund. Not weak. Not defeated. Not pussified. "Wiley." Right.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 14:37:54 (EST)

My two cents are: Perhaps these virtually-turbaned Clinton-jism-obsessed trogs are Supreme Leader Mohammad Omar's secret weapon for destroying America . . .
peace and prosperity is for socialsits
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 14:36:41 (EST)

My two cents are: That wasn't Clinton's whole speech that Glint didn't read. It was probably less than a fifth of it. The man is long-winded. I tried to post the parts that Coulter quoted and twisted, as evidence that even the supposedly inflammatory parts weren't inflammatory, and that Coulter is a liar. I confess that I didn't read it either, just skimmed it for the offending parts. I figured if I didn't pay too much attention and build a major case regarding Coulter's dishonesty, one of the trogs might take a shot at attacking the speech, and leave another right-wing glass chin exposed. They don't always take the bait, though. They're getting wiley, the troglodytes.
House of Meat
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 14:35:16 (EST)

My two cents are: Geesh, Meat, when you told me (and the other 17) about this place two years ago, you billed it as a site where the pickings were easy but fine for off-season conditioning. So, how do you explain THIS? If things don't improve, I'm going to have to leave. There's such a thing as TOO easy, you know. I mean, there's no sport in this. I'd be better off at the driving range.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 14:32:47 (EST)

My two cents are: G.W. Bush - "If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator."
go, george, go
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 14:30:33 (EST)

My two cents are: GREAT LAKES, Ill. (AP) - U.S. special forces have been involved in ground combat in Afghanistan, killing Taliban and al-Qaida fighters, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said Friday. No Americans have died or been wounded in the operations, he said.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 14:29:46 (EST)

My two cents are: ?????
Buffs Fan
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 14:27:42 (EST)

My two cents are: CHICAGO (Reuters) - In what may be a sign of the times, one depressed dot-commer is offering free Prozac to depressed consumers as part of a promotion by the drug company. The Indianapolis pharmaceutical maker Eli Lilly and Co. (NYSE:LLY - news) has teamed up with money-losing Internet healthcare firm WebMD Corp.(HTML) to offer Americans a free month's supply of the famed antidepressant. Prozac has already lost about 80 percent of its market share since the generic form of fluoxetine, its chemical name, was introduced in August and Eli Lilly has been pushing its once-a-week form of Prozac, which has no generic competition.

- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 14:27:31 (EST)

My two cents are: Yeah, Pete has the market cornered on Clinton's dick hitting the lecturn. Glint is Jism Boy.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 14:25:03 (EST)

My two cents are: Tell us more about Clinton's jism, Glint.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 14:24:07 (EST)

My two cents are: Okay, okay, I lied. There are no Buff fans on this page. All together now: Fuck the Buffs!
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 14:20:50 (EST)

My two cents are: Pete must know the identities of all 22 posters. He already busted Whelp for being Ho-hum.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 14:20:04 (EST)

My two cents are: Wonder who that one Buffs fan could be? Obviously a lying liberal. Fits. Next.
Pete�
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 14:19:50 (EST)

My two cents are: Yes, Glint, don't worry.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 14:19:22 (EST)

My two cents are: Glint, don't worry, that was just Crazy Mary. She's sorta playing some sort of "I'm on the liebral team" right now, but a thinking person knows better. She's just a feel gooder. One who likes to pander to the ponderers. One who likes to think she's tolerant to mask her complete ignorance of the basis for her brainwashed beliefs. She's a basic soccer mom mentality, spoon fed from the lies and hysteria of the left. Flailing, but pleasant...when she's not anonimi.
Pete�
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 14:18:30 (EST)

My two cents are: I'd read it, but that Corso story has permanently raised my expectations and I don't want to risk losing that high.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 14:17:29 (EST)

My two cents are: Well, one IS a Buffs fan. And that one has already read it.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 14:16:04 (EST)

My two cents are: Whew! Save some of those zingers, Glint.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 14:15:28 (EST)

My two cents are: Glint, this is what one must read if one is a Buff fan. Complete, unadulterated insanity: http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1002,111%257E227109,00.html
Pete�
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 14:15:01 (EST)

My two cents are: Good one, Glint. I smell a comeback!
Husker
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 14:13:46 (EST)

My two cents are: "You guys would have made John� happy." - Anonymous@01:54:48 (EST). At least John� lived long enough to see a second Bush presidency. Certainly made his passing easier to take.
Glint
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 14:10:21 (EST)

My two cents are: Tell us the one about the smart Republicans who couldn't fill out the absentee ballot apps correctly, Uncle Glint. Tell us how rules are rules.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 14:08:13 (EST)

My two cents are: Take it, Glint. Tell these jisms just how it is that Bush really, really DID get elected. You say it so purty.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 14:06:31 (EST)

My two cents are: Movie bluffs? I don't know where they are. Hidden humoUr that no one got? Credit that to a good job of hiding the humoUr. My question is, where in the duty statement does it say the chief executive is to serve as Propogandist-in-chief? Or is it Assuager-in-chief? Did we elect* him to be THAT? I mean, is that what we would have elected him to be IF we had elected him*.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 14:03:45 (EST)

My two cents are: "The neat thing about this all is that Glint professes to read every word." - House of Meat. Coincidentally, the one exception I have made to that practice, was skipping over the text of the Bubba speech last night. Nothing new, more of his usual distasteful bahavior and public sink wanking. Poor impeached reprobate; I'm glad that unlike you Liberals I'm on the outside of the bubble of Clinton's gurgling jism.
Glint
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 14:02:07 (EST)

My two cents are: Actually, there were 6 Crusades from about 650 to 1295. That referred to a string of unbroken centuries of conflict. Part Deux, refers to the revival of those long centuries of war. I say nuke the bastards and be done with them, but that isn't PC around here. Anyway, they will nuke us before we nuke them, then we get to nuke them. The dead Sea Scrolls say so. So does Einstein. No one got the hidden humour in "Part Deux"? Where are the movie bluffs? Sheesh!
Pete�
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 13:53:22 (EST)

My two cents are: What about the Jews? Did they say anything bad about the Jews?
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 13:52:14 (EST)

My two cents are: You mean that long cut-and-paste said THAT! Geesh, I've got to start reading these things!
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 13:49:55 (EST)

My two cents are: Yeah, that is a mind-blower that they're badmouthing us in the mosques. Kind of came out of left field.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 13:48:48 (EST)

My two cents are: I don't know, anonymous. This latest report about how the imams are saying bad things about us in mosques all over Arabia has me worried. I think I'll stick around in case they try to pull some stunt like stealing an airplane and flying it into a building.
House of Meat
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 13:47:18 (EST)

My two cents are: I'm tempted to leave myself. I figure the remaining 21 can handle clean-up.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 13:46:40 (EST)

My two cents are: You don't think it's the old rope-a-dope, do you?
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 13:44:51 (EST)

My two cents are: Meat, I'm not sure there's any more work to be done here. I mean, check out the rubble. I'll stay around but only out of nostalgia.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 13:43:47 (EST)

My two cents are: Stupid is as stupid does.
to coin a phrase
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 13:41:55 (EST)

My two cents are: Watch out. Glint isn't THAT stupid. This is a trap.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 13:40:57 (EST)

My two cents are: Well, yes, the illegally obtained ballots WERE primarily Republican in that it was the GOP who fucked up the applications on behalf of Republican voters. Your point?
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 13:39:35 (EST)

My two cents are: Hmm, I guess that's why they are referred to as The CrusadeS, not The Crusade. Always wondered about that.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 13:37:37 (EST)

My two cents are: "..Therefore, all the improperly completed requests for absentee ballots the GOP was allowed to 'amend' ater the fact are disqualified." - Anonymous@19:18:58. Yet on those ballots the intent of the voter was unambiguous. No under or over votes among them. Must have been Republican voters.
Glint
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 13:35:54 (EST)

My two cents are: Pete, that great student of history, claims that this is "Part Deux" of the Holy Crusades. Let's see, there were THREE Holy Crusades, so this must be...yep, Part Deux alright.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 13:35:19 (EST)

My two cents are: That almost makes me want to look up "assuage" in the dictionary. Like many words, it sounds wrong the way Pete uses it. It's transitive, but I don't think it can logically transit to "the masses." I think it must transit to the burden assuaged, for example "thirst." To assuage the thirst of the masses. No biggie, though. It's just that you don't often hear the word, so when you hear it misused it's difficult to pinpoint how it is misused.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 13:35:07 (EST)

My two cents are: Pete's credibility is shot.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 13:29:40 (EST)

My two cents are: Good job, St. Wolf! I was about to bust the fucker myself.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 13:27:51 (EST)

My two cents are: I told you people that Pete was an enemy of America and the Republican Party. Now we have proof. Note below how Pete comes right out and calls President Bush a liar. Now, connect that to Pete's oft-stated disdain for liars. I rest my case. Pete, the shower curtain has been pulled open and you're the one standing there naked!
Harlan St. Wolf
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 13:26:45 (EST)

My two cents are: Now would be a good time for Glint to explain, once more, how Bush won the election fair and square.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 13:23:35 (EST)

My two cents are: You're not invited, Pete. Have a nice day!
Harlan St. Wolf
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 13:20:50 (EST)

My two cents are: I support President Bush. However, I can see where he needs a gentle nudge as he continues to tilt leftward. I worship the inner man, not the appeaser of Democrats. The Bush I voted for was owned by the right, now he seems to be selling out to the left. A gentle nudge should do the trick and get him back onto the path of righteousness. He WAS elected in that he got the most electoral college "votes." To me, it doesn't matter HOW he got them. The fact is, he got them. Live with it, pansies!
Harlan St. Wolf
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 13:17:48 (EST)

My two cents are: Propaganda to assuage the masses. This is Holy Crusades, Part Deux. Buckle up.
Pete�
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 13:14:43 (EST)

My two cents are: So it looks as if Osama bin Laden's military chief Mohammed Atef may be getting used to the accoutraments of Hell. Hope he says hi to JFK and son while down there.
.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 13:12:16 (EST)

My two cents are: Well, the president* for one says it's not about Islam. Don't you support Snippy? Traitor!
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 13:11:49 (EST)

My two cents are: KHOBAR, Saudi Arabia (AP) - Worshippers from Saudi Arabia to Jordan prayed Friday for America's demise and Osama bin Laden's safety and victory on the first day of Ramadan, the holy Muslim month of fasting. ``The Americans are digging their own grave and, God willing, our holy warriors in Afghanistan will bury them soon,'' said Ahmed, a 25-year-old Saudi from Khobar, who only wanted to be identified by his first name. But the prayer leader at a Khobar mosque, Sheik Mohammed al-Tawwash, was more cautious in his sermon. He called on God to ``protect the innocent Muslims and give them victory over the infidels and enemies of Islam'' but made no mention of the U.S.-led attacks on Afghanistan. Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah had urged Muslim clerics to be cautious in their pronouncements, saying they had a responsibility toward their faith and government. ``You know that we are now passing through critical days and our duty requires that we be mindful ... because you are now a target for those who are biased against the Islamic faith,'' Abdullah said in remarks carried by the official Saudi Press Agency. Saudi Arabia - Washington's closest Persian Gulf ally - is mindful of maintaining close U.S. ties while also appeasing Saudis who see the airstrikes as a war against Islam. During Ramadan, observant Muslims abstain from eating, drinking, smoking and sex between sunrise and sunset. The month, which officially began Friday in most Arab nations, commemorates the time when God began revealing the Quran, the Muslim holy book, to the Prophet Muhammad some 1,400 years ago. In Jordan, a preacher at an Amman university mosque prayed for God to seek revenge from ``Americans, Jews, their allies and whoever stands behind them.'' ``God, disperse them and grant victory to the mujahedeen (holy warriors) in Palestine, Afghanistan and Chechnya,'' Abdul-Wahab Kassasbeh said. In Lebanon, Grand Ayatollah Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah, a senior Shiite Muslim cleric, railed against what he called U.S. attempts to establish a ``strategic base'' in Central Asia. ``Muslims, Arabs and the entire world should know that America does not care for the interests of the entire world but it is working in the context of the international coalition against the so-called 'terrorism' to serve its interests at the expense of the others,'' Fadlallah said in a sermon at a Beirut mosque. In northern Afghanistan, thousands of men crowded into the main mosque in Taloqan to hear a new northern alliance-appointed prayer leader, Sadiq, who promised to bring Afghanistan good government and peace. ``We will give the rights of women and the rights of educated people, and bring a real Islam,'' he said, urging alliance members to keep fighting terrorism. Prayers at the main mosque in the Gulf state of Bahrain included no mention of the strikes on Afghanistan. ``He who fasts in Ramadan, with faith and introspection, his sins will be forgiven,'' said Sheik Adnan Gattan. ``The holy month of Ramadan is an opportunity for Muslims as peoples and societies ... to replenish our blessings and to cleanse our souls of sin.'' He called on God's help for Palestinians, Afghans, Chechens and Kashmiris, saying: ``Oh God, remove their calamities and their sadness.'' In Damascus, more than 10,000 Syrians prayed for rain as the country braced for its fifth straight year of drought. ``This drought is a disaster God has inflicted on us because we - leaders and peoples - are disobeying him,'' Sheikh Muhammad Saeed Ramadan al-Boutti told worshippers.
who says this isn't about Islam?
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 13:05:48 (EST)

My two cents are: And to think, I worshipped that man.
Harlan St. Wolf
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 13:02:10 (EST)

My two cents are: This is a serious blow to Horowitz' credibility.
Harlan St. Wolf
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 13:01:35 (EST)

My two cents are: No wonder. Liberals oil their doormats. Just like the mafioso. Birds of a feather.
Pete�
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 12:59:04 (EST)

My two cents are: Lying 101, Horowitz: �It is incredible to me that at a time when our country is engaged in a war against terrorism that former President Clinton would make a speech on foreign policy at a major university blaming America first and saying that �the U.S. is paying a price today for its past sins.� Check out Clinton's speech, and you will find he did not say that. Horowitz's quotation of Clinton is not a quotation of Clinton. A pure, bald-faced lie. Horowitz could have twisted what Clinton said, taken it out of context, slanted it somehow, but instead he just changed it. He quoted Clinton as saying something he did not say.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 12:48:45 (EST)

My two cents are: Hey, did I just hear the door-mat squeak? I'll have to remind the janitor to oil it.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 12:31:18 (EST)

My two cents are: Delusions of grandeur from the lost tribe. WE own this place. Doink.
Pete�
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 12:01:14 (EST)

My two cents are: It got a little abusive toward the end. But I guess it had to be.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 11:35:41 (EST)

My two cents are: The whole thing. Silencing them.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 11:34:02 (EST)

My two cents are: Which bit?
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 10:14:55 (EST)

My two cents are: You guys would have made John� happy. Maybe it was worth it.
Anonymous.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 01:54:48 (EST)

My two cents are: Anyone want to buy a telescope? A surf-board? How about the Bantam edition of Emily Dickenson? A subscription to "Baby Boomer" magazine? The complete works of Rush Limbaugh?
Pete�
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 01:53:56 (EST)

My two cents are: House of Meat, you may have smoked them out of their holes. It's too early to tell, but there's a possibility that they'll pop up tomorrow with a few cut and pastes, maybe even an original post or two. Tell you what, though, it's getting harder and harder. Pretty soon all we're going to have around here is Pete�, who is more and more resembling a sassy door-mat. We are stuck with the halt, the chinless, and the pathetic. Oh well. Foop. Doink. See you in Port 110. Where the gridlines cross.
.
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 01:50:50 (EST)

My two cents are: Yo, 01:09:46. Yeah, it's ugly. What I think is that we can deal with these fascists when the time comes. Sure it's bad to drop a few stitches, but in troubled times we may need a few evil bastards trying to catch the other evil bastards. It's like having cops-- they are barely-controlled criminals, and always have been, but they help keep the peace, and so far we have managed to regain control of them after they have got out of hand. I think that America, once it has used various bureaucratic troglodytes as slightly dirty weapons in the "war against terrorism", can get control of them. I admit, this is a fairly Pollyanna take on things.... but on the other hand, this Ashcroft is a lightweight, as evil as he may be, and if America can't manage to discard him and his ilk when the time comes, then maybe we don't deserve to. Shit, when I was a kid we were saddled with J. Edgar Hoover, who was smarter and more powerful than Ashcroft could ever be. And we got rid of that asshole. Let's not panic, but it's good you keep your eyes open. The Constitution is getting fucked here, but I think we will save it in the end.
House of Meat
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 01:22:00 (EST)

My two cents are: I can handle myself, Meat. 83 years old, and just a baseball writer, but I've always been good with my hands, and to tell you the truth, this Pete� ain't all that scary to an old buzzard like me. No, don't worry about old Whelp. I'll take Pete�'s best, and if it gets too hot, well, I've lived a good life and am ready to roll. I'd worry more about the less experienced liberals, those of the 22 who haven't taken the hits I've taken, or learned how to shake them off. And remember, confidence is good, and cockiness is important, but never underestimate your enemy. Remember what Pete� did to E, how he worked within the context and exploited it to her doom, twat for twerpedo. The man is dangerous, so never let your guard down. Courage.
Whelp
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 01:13:58 (EST)

My two cents are: Until Oct. 30, only a court order from a judge could allow government wiretaps of communications between detainees and their attorneys - - protected under the Sixth Amendment. But now, in cases where Attorney General John Ashcroft suspects a detainee may be plotting terrorist acts or violence, it is he -- a Cabinet member from the Executive Branch -- who will be the judge. Five days after Congress gave him broad new powers to wiretap, monitor e-mails and secretly search the homes of suspected terrorists, Ashcroft assigned himself even more power -- this time to monitor phone calls and mail between anyone in federal detention and his or lawyers. No need to call a judge. No need to call a news conference, either. "This is a decision based upon the new mission of the department to have an eye toward prevention of terrorism," said Justice spokeswoman Mindy Tucker, who noted the rule change didn't merit a news conference because "it's a procedural change and it affects such a small universe of people." Citing the post-Sept. 11 threat of terrorism, the Justice Department also bypassed the regular 30-day notice required before a federal rule takes effect. The department published the rule in the Federal Register on Oct. 31 -- one day after it took effect.
small universe
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 01:09:46 (EST)

My two cents are: Pete� says you're a target Mole, Whelp, and asks about your Prozac. Prozac? That must bite pretty deep, Whelp. This Pete� really knows how to hurt a guy, and you are his target Mole. He said so. You must be trembling in your Prozac-soaked boots. You poor target Mole.
House of Meat
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 01:07:45 (EST)

My two cents are: Yeah, speaking of Dick-in-the-hole, the vice-president, whatever happened to his wife? Remember how back in September she started spouting off about how we had to start teaching how to hate Arabs in the public schools? Man, they clamped down on her spout qucker than John Mitchell's old lady, Martha, back when she tried to rat out Nixon. You know, when I think back on it, it seems that that was one of the earliest signs that Snippy was going to go liberal-- putting the cork in the unreconstructable troglodytes hanging around the administration. Lately we haven't even seen Dugout Dick himself. It's as if a fanatic right-wing oil swindler isn't really the sort of dude that Snippy wants fronting for him as he goes 69 with Vlad Putin and tries to kick fascist ass in central Asia. Where the f*ck is the guy, anyway? I picture him in a plastic bubble three hundred feet under Omaha. The plastic bubble keeps the anthrax out, but even better, it keeps Dick Cheney in. Snippy's own Dan Quayle.
House of Meat
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 01:03:48 (EST)

My two cents are: Even so, guys, I'd wait a while to make sure. I once shot a limit of doves, took them back to the house and of a sudden one started fluttering in the bag. Pretty damned creepy, to have a bird start fluttering in a gunny-sack in your living-room that you thought had been dead for hours. What I'm saying, there's no guarantee that either Pete� or Glint might rare up on his hind legs again and try to piss into the tent one last time. We've all got to stick around and make sure this bullshit is over with. Then we can rest.
Fess Parker
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 00:54:40 (EST)

My two cents are: What were you expecting, Meat, George F. Will? If you're fishing for someone to demolish, you might try another site, some place where the right-wingers still have a ball or two. I understand the problem-- the right-wing sites don't allow more than a post or two of dissenting opinion, but shit, at least that's a post or two against a fish that is still alive! These guys here hang on, and submit to their deserved abuse, but so what? Is it really that much fun gutting the same squid ten or twenty times? It's getting damned hard to find a real trog that can fight back, with Snippy turning liberal and everybody buy Cheney and the mid-level Bushites pretty much getting down to real business or at least trying to cover their ass with some sort of variation on enlightened government. I guess we'll just have to stick here for a while to make sure that these geeks are beaten, and then look for something better.
Whelp Greenlee
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 00:49:48 (EST)

My two cents are: Dang! I have to fire up the old ISP every now and then just to hook up to Fornigate and see if a troglodyte has taken the bait. So all I get is poor, pathetic Pete�. Come on, trogs, can't you do better than this?
House of Meat
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 00:41:33 (EST)

My two cents are: Look, Whelp, you are no one to talk. Or should I say mumble. How's the Prozac? Hope alls well. We missed you, not the lack of substance, but the appearances as a target Mole.
Pete�
- Friday, November 16, 2001 at 00:16:08 (EST)

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