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My two cents are: http://www.onlinejournal.com/Books___Reviews/Dowbenko060401/dowbenko060401.html
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 23:37:35 (EDT)

My two cents are: As I pointed out right at the start, our government is lying to us as a matter of war necessity. If they didn't tell us that Padilla was trying to blow up the country for Al Quaida, Osama bin Laden couldn't be lured into thinking he was trying to blow up the country for Al Quaida. Get it? Winston Churchill explained it all in my quotation book, I think. It would be a lot simpler, I'll admit, if Padilla had jism on his socks, but nobody said War would be as easy as Impeachment.
Glurb
- Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 23:24:40 (EDT)

My two cents are: Enemy combattant? What the fuck? Jose Padilla?
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 23:18:08 (EDT)

My two cents are: The administration* is crooked, that's what's up. The Bush family and the bin L.'s have been holding hands for 20 years min. This is all in the family. Al Caida hates them both, the Snipper worst, although they realize he's just the rag doll in front. Not only did the bin Ladens fly out of the country before our patriotic homeboys could question them, the flew out at a time when civil aviation was locked down and NO AMERICAN CITIZEN could fly anywhere. That's right, Jose, you heard it here first. The bin Laden family, the forty or so of the rug pilots who were in the USA, got to fly out. Everyone else was grounded. Fucking Kenny Boy Lay himself couldn't fly AS FAR AS WE KNOW. Hey, what do we really know? These people lie about their shoe size, whether they like tomato soup, whether they bat left or right. What the hell does anyone know? Careful, don't answer-- some administration* cowboy suit might decide you're bad people, and lock you up as an enemy combattant somewhere.
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- Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 23:15:42 (EDT)

My two cents are: Jose Padilla has a towel name. What's Ann Coulter's towel name? Does Snippy have a towel name? Say, isn't he the one who made sure all the Oil Bin Ladens got out of the country safe and sound? What's up with that?
Snippy Bin Laden
- Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 22:46:55 (EDT)

My two cents are: A Wednesday night traffic stop by members of South Florida Joint Terrorism Task Force. How weird is this??? Was this a routine traffic stop?
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 22:44:52 (EDT)

My two cents are: These Chicago and Florida guys are the key to Al Quaida. Ousama next. Let's roll.
Pete�
- Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 22:36:48 (EDT)

My two cents are: That quotation on the url where it say Bush said during the campaign that he would "avoid tapping Social Security except in cases of war, recession or a national emergency?" That's one of those Bush lies that has attained urban myth status, so even the page debunking Snippy's lies assumes he said it. But he didn't. He lied later and claimed that he had said it, but he never did. Check it out. You got to watch these guys.
House of Meat
- Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 22:34:16 (EDT)

My two cents are: Great news! First Padilla, now Adham Amin Hassoun! Green days are just around the corner!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 21:38:25 (EDT)

My two cents are: MIAMI (CNN) -- Federal officials in Miami told CNN Saturday they had arrested a south Florida Muslim activist with ties to "dirty bomb" suspect Jose Padilla. Adham Amin Hassoun was arrested during a Wednesday night traffic stop by members of South Florida Joint Terrorism Task Force, according to FBI spokeswoman Judy Orihuela and Immigration and Naturalization Service spokesman Rodney Germain. The task force coordinates activities between local, state and federal law enforcement officials. Hassoun, 40, is being held at the Krome Avenue Detention Facility near Miami on an immigration violation charge. The Miami Herald quoted a federal source as saying that Hassoun was charged with overstaying his visa, and that officials hoped he could shed light on how Padilla, raised in Chicago by Puerto Rican parents, became someone the government characterizes as a Muslim extremist. Padilla, also known as Abdullah Al Muhajir, is accused of being part of a plot to build and set off a dirty bomb -- a conventional bomb laced with radioactive material. He is in Justice Department custody at a Navy brig in South Carolina, held as an "enemy combatant." Hassoun and Padilla attended the same mosque, Masjid Al-Iman in Fort Lauderdale, for most of the 1990s and were friends, according to the Herald. Officials also said Hassoun was listed as the Florida registered agent for Benevolence International Foundation, but left the organization when it moved to Chicago shortly after its inception. Benevolence International Organization is charged with financing Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda terrorist network.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 18:59:40 (EDT)

My two cents are: Hep!
Pete�
- Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 17:13:37 (EDT)

My two cents are: http://www.lipsio.com/gainesvillehumanists/dubya.htm
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 17:09:00 (EDT)

My two cents are: That was the mystery today at the White House, where an administration that prides itself on secrecy was in a minor uproar over an intern who apparently dropped a computer disk containing a confidential analysis of the coming 2002 elections in Lafayette Park. The disk was then picked up by an enterprising Democratic Senate staff member, who made sure that its most embarrassing points were made public. Advertisement For example, the White House analysis of campaigns for the Senate, where Democrats hold a one-vote margin, shows that there is a "strong chance" that two Republican incumbents, Tim Hutchinson of Arkansas and Bob Smith of New Hampshire, will lose to Democrats, a direr assessment than Republican officials have stated publicly. In addition, it says, President Bush needs to "grow" his outreach to Latinos, suburban women, Roman Catholics and union members, but only "improve" his outreach to African-Americans, a group that was alienated during the 2000 election recount in Florida, where some blacks believe there was an organized attempt to disenfranchise them.
RepubLies
- Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 16:21:39 (EDT)

My two cents are: PROTESTER REMOVED FOR TURNING BACK ON BUSH OHIO STATE STUDENTS LOUDLY WARNED: CHEER BUSH OR BE ARRESTED, LOSE DIPLOMAS! FLOPPING WHITE HOUSE NEEDS APPLAUSE SIGN: JUST LIKE ON TV! EXCEPT THIS SIGN ADDED; "MAKE IT THUNDEROUS -- BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING!" COERCION IN THE HEARTLAND But Someone At OSU Has Sense Of Humor: Administrative Failure/Disaster Bush Given Honorary "Public Administration" Degree! Bush was invited to speak at the Ohio State commencement by representatives of the graduating class. But immediately before class members filed into the giant football stadium, an announcer instructed the crowd that all the university's speakers deserve to be treated with respect and that anyone demonstrating or heckling would be subject to expulsion and arrest. The announcer urged that Bush be greeted with a "thunderous" ovation.
How fascist and stupid is TOO fascist & stupid?
- Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 16:14:48 (EDT)

My two cents are: Of course he mangled it. He's stupid.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 16:13:14 (EDT)

My two cents are: You had to leave, this means you were unable to hear if he mangled the english language in front of all the graduates?
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 16:01:16 (EDT)

My two cents are: Snippy's own Mommy knows he's way too stupid to be *Resident.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 15:50:20 (EDT)

My two cents are: "Look, the person performing as President of the United States is George Bush's worthless son. How crooked do you want it?" Can't be repeated often enough.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 15:46:51 (EDT)

My two cents are: [In] my search for an organizer of Turn Your Back On Bush, I did indeed hear the announcement. Graduating students were told that they would be expelled and arrested if they turned their backs. they were alerted that dozens of staff members and police officers would be watching the stands, as well as the Secret Service. ... It didn't take long for our stomachs to turn....the first speaker (I believe the OSU President) began spouting about how proud they were to have Bush there. He said "We have a long tradition of inviting great men and women to speak at our commencements." I quickly responded "but since we couldn't get one, here's Georgie". That got the attention of the state trooper in front of us. His eyes were on me the rest of the time. ... About 10 minutes later, Shrub was introduced to speak. Before he even got to the stage, we did our about-face. I looked over my shoulder to see how many graduates were doing the same. However, everybody was standing at that point, and in pure black robes, it was impossible to see who was facing what direction. Furthermore, over that same shoulder, I saw one of Columbus' Finest heading our way. We never got to see how many students participated. We were being led out of Ohio Stadium. To the officer's credit, he realized there was a 3-year-old in my arms and was not at all hostile. I asked him if I was under arrest, and he did not answer me. When we reached the exit, I asked the SS man why we had been ejected, and he told me we were being charged with disturbing the peace. ...
How fascist and stupid is TOO fascist & stupid?
- Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 15:35:56 (EDT)

My two cents are: Priests molesting young kids is much more acceptable than spooge on a blue dress.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 14:52:22 (EDT)

My two cents are: Jittery? The truth is that the intelligence services are full of bureaucratic cover-your-ass fools (the FBI always has been), Wall Street is a scam on the ordinary citizen, a rigged poker game with the un-rich public, the Glints and the Petes as chump, the Catholic priesthood is a kid-fucking conspiracy, having moved on from nuns when they began giving it to the laity, and duh, drug companies are manipulating prices. Look, the person performing as President of the United States is George Bush's worthless son. How crooked do you want it?
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 14:50:59 (EDT)

My two cents are: Is Scandal, Fear Inspiring Malaise Among Americans? WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Nine months after the Sept. 11 attacks, the United States finds itself in a jittery mood, as scandal and doubts envelop a growing number of major institutions. The CIA, the FBI, the Roman Catholic Church, the stock market, major corporations, accountants and brokers are among the organizations and professions facing criticism either for their honesty or their ability to perform -- or both. "The country is restive. There's all this worrisome stuff happening and there's deepening concern about whether the dangers are being properly addressed," said Bruce Buchanan, a political scientist at the University of Texas. "Sept. 11 has affected the way we feel. People are not changing their lifestyle but how they look at life has changed ... We all know that there is the potential for more bad things to happen to our country," said Ed Klimek, mayor of Manhattan, Kansas, a town of 44,000 in the American heartland. A sense of anxiety about the reliability of company balance sheets has weighed down the stock market for weeks. Ordinary investors, who rode the boom of the 1990s, now seemed spooked as the value of their retirement funds erodes day by day, although the economy has resumed growth. In one Wall Street Journal survey released this week, 57 percent of respondents expressed lack of confidence in corporations and brokers to give them honest information. Additionally, 59 percent said they lacked confidence in the intelligence services; 68 percent said the Catholic Church was covering up the child-abuse scandal instead of releasing the facts, and 54 percent expressed negative views about drugs companies, suspecting them of manipulating prices. "We have an extremely jittery nation. I do sense there is tremendous insecurity out there. It's almost like the reaction of children whose parents get divorced and start to question everything they once took for granted," said Jennifer Laszlo, a public opinion pollster.
the reason we have a jittery nation is because of the virtueless .liberal mentality. If there was honest and virtue, then this scum would never be in power.
- Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 14:33:10 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 12:04:02 (EDT)

My two cents are: Thanks, I'll look for it.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 11:32:32 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 11:31:43 (EDT)

My two cents are: Actually called Powerblock. Try www.powerblock.com
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 11:19:05 (EDT)

My two cents are: Good weight set to buy is called The Block, I believe. Takes up the space of an end table. Check it out.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 11:09:35 (EDT)

My two cents are: Bush and family get a kickback on all oil bought from Saudi Arabia.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 11:00:19 (EDT)

My two cents are: But you got a hand it to Glunt, I mean here's a guy that literally lost his job the day BLT and is now working for pennies of his former salary under the bush regime. I mean because of Bush, the kid is going to have to drive a used car and get porked at a state university instead of driving a beemer and getting boned by the gentry at a private school. Shame, sounds like a bright kid. Probably an exception to that principle of regression toward the mean.
zerk
- Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 10:19:38 (EDT)

My two cents are: gonna smoke a sirloin later. getting ready to exercise - still havent bought more weights. Gonna detail the zx2 and take it for a ride out some windy roads or something maybe.
zerk
- Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 10:15:40 (EDT)

My two cents are: Morning meat, anon.
zerk
- Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 10:14:13 (EDT)

My two cents are: Pete's a loser.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 10:13:16 (EDT)

My two cents are: No, meat, you bonehead. It's the blow-jobs that gnaw at a rube's gut! It's the pussy, stupid!
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 10:08:56 (EDT)

My two cents are: The only drawback to reflexively commenting, on any topic, that Bill Clinton is a criminal, is that he is not a criminal. Aside from that, it is a reasonable expression of your political acumen, Glunt, which is stuck at the level of childish unreasoning hatred for Clinton. It is as if he is the particularly successful coach of a rival high-school football team, or the Commies, or a city slicker, or something equally yet logically abhorrent to a midwestern rube. And yet he's just another guy, much like a midwestern rube, only smarter, better educated, better dressed, more talented, more successful, and a twice-elected President who presided over two terms of magnanimity in peace, victory in war, balanced budgets, charity to all, malice to none, and economic prosperity. That must really gnaw at a rube's gut.
House of Meat
- Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 10:05:51 (EDT)

My two cents are: hey glunt, buy a ride yet??? Saw a commercial the other day, as follows'' kid shows up to pick up this guys daughter for a date. kid driving a minivan. Father has flashback to his own 1970's van rocking on a beach somewhere. Next scene is the kids driving off except in a sports car - girl saying "wow, I can't believe my dad is letting you drive his Viper".
zerk
- Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 10:03:22 (EDT)

My two cents are: They can still wear a charm bracelet on the wrist, though.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 09:57:10 (EDT)

My two cents are: A little girl down Mississippi was watching her mother get dressed for work one day. The mother took off her shirt and the little girl saw her breasts and said, "Mommy, what are those flappy things?" The mother replied, "They are titties." The little girl then asked, "When will mine look like those?" The mother said, "When you get to be chest high to the wringer washer."
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 03:47:10 (EDT)

My two cents are: "Get ready to gulp: Open cups banned at metal detectors" Tom Zoellner The Arizona Republic June 14, 2002 05:45:00 - Get ready to chug-a-lug your $3 cafe latte before going to board a flight at Sky Harbor International Airport. New security rules that go into effect Saturday require Phoenix passengers to either drink or throw out their coffee before walking through the metal detectors. "It was a practical thing," said Deirdre O'Sullivan, spokeswoman for the federal Transportation Security Administration. "If any liquid spills, it could hurt the machines." The new rule banning open containers of liquid, which will eventually be in effect at every airport in the nation, will eliminate the last object that passengers were allowed to carry by hand through the X-ray machines.
subtext for next thursday's column
- Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 03:29:15 (EDT)

My two cents are: Not all rich guys. There are also the rich criminals. Just look at Bill "ice man" Clinton.
Glint
- Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 02:22:20 (EDT)

My two cents are: But wait a minute! Pete says that rich guys are rich because they're better and deserve to be rich! He says that having a government has no effect on whether they become rich or not! He says that in Somalia, with no government and no "death" tax, the same guys would get rich! How can you argue with Pete? This is a guy who sent an "open letter" to 40 right-wing pundits, after which Glint noticed that many of them stole the idea! This is an old Dunster House boy, or a liar, take your pick!
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 01:03:25 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sure, interesting story on the estate, or "death", tax. From what I hear, there are 3,280 estates that now qualify, including six in Wyoming and none in Alaska. Typical Republican issue. A "defining" issue, as the re-pubs say. We're at "war", folks-- the only thing your country asks of you is blood, toil, sweat, tears, and step up and vote for a tax cut for the rich guy. Republicanism, it makes the world a funnier place, no doubt about it.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 00:58:20 (EDT)

My two cents are: http://www.nytimes.com/2002/06/14/politics/14LOBB.html
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 00:17:47 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sure, O'Connor is a flaming liberal, but you've got to hand it to her for saying, "Ohm shit, now I can't retire!" when it looked like the votes were going to be counted.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 15, 2002 at 00:06:39 (EDT)

My two cents are: For me, the greatest supreme court case was the one where they said that if Gore got more votes than Bush it would tend to put a cloud on Bush's presidency. Couldn't be much clearer-thinking than that! What sort of moron would deny it?
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 22:05:27 (EDT)

My two cents are: "The Constitution...is a law for rulers and people, equally in war and in peace, and covers with its shield of protection all classes of men, at all times, and under all circumstances".
typical lie-bral fuzzy thinking
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 22:03:56 (EDT)

My two cents are: I don't think you can have a war without declaring a war. That may be why they didn't hang Jane Fonda. Then there's the technicality of having no defined enemy, just some renegades. Can you really declare war on a set of potential actions, legally, with all the perks of war like being able to kick prisoners in the nuts and maybe shoot them if they talk back? It doesn't make sense. It's one of those emperor's new clothes deals. It only works as long as most people play along, not counting the ones who are too dumb or ignorant to figure the situation out. Call them the Fox Fans. The problem with declaring war is, of course, that you have to have a debate, and all the goddam liberal professors and faggots and Rabbis start crawling out of the woodwork and mouthing off, and the voter may be left with an idea that we're in something other than a war, or that the war cliches don't apply to this war. And if you can't apply the cliches, what good is a war to begin with? This whole thing is confusing to me and Pete. The only thing we see clearly is that we should bomb Mecca becuase it's us or them.
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- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 22:01:00 (EDT)

My two cents are: Yes, it's a bad time to have a chipher in the White House, a Warren Harding type, and have bad people like Cheney and Ashcroft holding power. Times of war hysteria and the war excuse for precipitant action are usually bad enough, even with liberals in office. To have these reactionaries running the executive, and seditionists like Trent Lott and Phil Gramm and Tom DeLay in prominent positions in congress, and immoralists in the Supreme Court, and an ignorant citizenry viewing the world through television, is dancing pretty close to the fire. With a little luck we get through it. But it doesn't look like we're headed for any shining city on a hill.
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- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 21:51:15 (EDT)

My two cents are: The way it works is, if you can get a confession from an American, like Lindh, develop at least a half-assed case, then you send him through the courts. If you have no case, like with Pirillo, you send him to an undisclosed location where you can maybe work a confession out of him. Seems the idea is, a "bad guy" or "enemy combattent" wouldn't cut you a break, so why recognize his rights? A problem arises becuase there is no procedure for deciding who is a bad guy and who isn't. That's usually what a trial does, but in the Cheney/Ashcroft world you already know when you have a terrorist, so you can either give him a trial or not. Who needs a trial or constitutional guarantees for people who fly airplanes, or maybe discuss flying airplanes, into buildings? So, who are the bad guys? To me, Cheney and Ashcroft, and maybe old man Bush, are the bad guys. But for some reason I haven't figured out, just my saying they're bad guys doesn't put them in jail. It only works when they do it. Remember, Snippy wasn't even legally elected-- that is, the process of his installment was in clear violation of the Constitution, which leaves elections up to the states. So, we have uncontstitutionality as the go-to play for this administration*. It's a sad episode for America, not only because it's all illegal and immoral, but because it's all so chickenshit. These guys don't have any faith in democracy, in the Constitution, or finally, in America. They make me almost ashamed to be an American, because they are supposed to be the best and have some leadership and stature even if they didn't really get elected. Well, I suppose there's no reason to be ashamed to be an American, even if you are ashamed of the president and his pals and the many people stupid enough to vote for them. It's more a matter of they shame America, or we are ashamed of them. You almost have to get into Pete-think to work it out optimistically.
House of Meat
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 21:40:58 (EDT)

My two cents are: The problem is that we are not really at war. More like a hunting terrorists expedition. Not rolling, more like putt, putt.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 20:56:43 (EDT)

My two cents are: US Supreme Court ruling in the Milligan case : "The Constitution...is a law for rulers and people, equally in war and in peace, and covers with its shield of protection all classes of men, at all times, and under all circumstances".
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 20:49:53 (EDT)

My two cents are: I'm beginning to get somewhat concerned about how this administration* is putting people in military jails indefinitely, without any charges. The way I understand it, it really doesn't matter whether you're a foreigner or an actual native-born American citizen. I find this hard to believe and even harder to stomach. What's up with this? It seems kind of unconstitutional. Are we going to have to wait for the Supreme Court to rule on this, say, a couple years down the road, or is Snippy going to monkey-wrench the whole deal until he can replace the liberals like Kennedy and O'Connor and put it a couple of Long Dong clones? If MK had lived, I know he would be outraged. How about the crynic? Does any of this bother him? I'd ask Glint but his specialty is cum stains and the polls. I'd ask Pete, but his reply would just be random words strung together.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 20:43:49 (EDT)

My two cents are: Ya know that big movie star, Winona Ryder? Shoplifter. Yup. Gorsh dang, seems they get to be big stars and they're still stealin don't want to pay no more that some poor shitkicker. Gorsh jiminy dang. Mutha dog.
... developing...
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 20:30:52 (EDT)

My two cents are: Back in the day, Americans had it wrong. Those dorks back then thought that liberty and freedom and rights was something you fought for, with fear and discomfort and insecurity. They had it so backwards that some of them thought that those things contributed to our ultimate security. Nowadays, since Ronald Reagan and other philosophers, among them the Bush family and their retainer John Ashcroft, have rethought things, it is apparent that liberty is something that you have to be willing to trade for security. I suppose, though, that if three thousand people had been killed in the Revolutionary war, for example, everyone would have seen things differently, not just the Pete types, the tories, and the other conservatives. And we wouldn't have to worry about it now.
House of Meat
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 20:23:48 (EDT)

My two cents are: I imagine if Clinton had done everything Bush has the Republicans would be fighting it with all the collective power they have. Why are they sitting back letting Bush do what they feared Clinton would do? Is it because of party loyalty? What happens when the party in power changes? Will they be able to accept all of this from a Democrat?
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 20:05:30 (EDT)

My two cents are: And, let me tell you. I would DENFINITELY give up the civil rights of some yahoo that looks like a goddamn Arab. There is no way I am going to go around worrying about the possibility of somebody flying a jumbo jet up my ass because some liberal thinks swarthy-looking people should be allowed to go where the rest of us go. Close it down for the swarthy. Nobody wants them here anyway.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 20:02:50 (EDT)

My two cents are: Ashcroft is scary. Be afraid....be very afraid.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 19:58:28 (EDT)

My two cents are: Right. I'm mildly afraid. Especially when I fly or snort cocaine. Who knows what those bastards have done to it? I'm willing to trade my civil "rights" and those of the less fortunate, so that I won't ever have to be afraid again. Let's turn this thing over to Ashcroft. Who could feel afraid with Ashcroft in the saddle? If we let him have our rights, he will destroy the bad people planning to put a hurt on the average fat-assed haole or crush-faced corn-husker. Then we can breath easy. Who said America wasn't a great country, filled with a great people. The ones who aren't bums sitting around waiting for their free cheese.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 19:55:58 (EDT)

My two cents are: Lot of rolling going on here.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 19:51:43 (EDT)

My two cents are: "Times of tragedy and war naturally bring out strong emotions... Sometimes people are only too anxious to sacrifice their constitutional liberties during a crisis, hoping to gain some measure of security. Yet nothing would please terrorists more than if we willingly gave up our cherished liberties because of their actions." US Rep. Ron Paul (R-Tex)
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 19:50:48 (EDT)

My two cents are: The greedy bastard is rolling for the dough that would have went to those who died. Well, so what? They're getting rich off this deal, aren't they? Isn't that what a war is for, even if it's not a real war, to get rich? Why shouldn't Glint grab something off the high pie, with the smoke still in the air, the smoke of vaporized doughnuteers? Why shouldn't a living data sentry take down a little, just the same as a dead one? I say hail to a man who knows how to snout the trough when the snouting is good. And while we're at it, let's nuke Mecca.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 19:48:58 (EDT)

My two cents are: Found that raped granny link over on Drudge. Great disappoingment. No pics by which to judge the judgement of the assailant. There was one of the dirty columns of the building. The whole thing could use a good sandblasting - including the victim.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 19:43:04 (EDT)

My two cents are: Ashcroft vs the Constitution. What's a libertarian to do?
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 19:41:27 (EDT)

My two cents are: For the queer ones too, Glint? Are you rolling for the faggots and heathens and liberals and Muslims and negroes and criminals and fetus-killers who died?
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 19:37:16 (EDT)

My two cents are: Rand's cult of selfishness vs Bush's call to volunteerism. What's a libertarian to do?
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 19:35:06 (EDT)

My two cents are: Have to get rolling later on. Cell phone turned off, but they called on the private line. Working from midnight on. Have to switch off all the donut makers while they replace a tape drive. Then start switching them back on. Problem is donut production gets behind. Last time we had one of these 3 hour repair periods at midnight, I was still trying to catch up in the afternoon - and that was with some improved scripts I wrote. This time they'll be tweaked better, I hope. Osama won't stop the rolling data this time, unless one of his planes hits the building with the servers again. I am rolling for those data sentries who lost their lives on 911.
Glint
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 19:33:18 (EDT)

My two cents are: FREEP BARF ALERT FREEP BARF ALERT FREEP BARF ALERT.............. Veteran Democratic fund-raiser Mitchell Berger of Fort Lauderdale, Fla., said he expects to see many of the top Democratic money-raisers at the Memphis meeting. "Memphis is going to be an opportunity for many old, and some new, friends to get together who have been the financial backing for many national Democratic campaigns in the past," Berger said. "They've stood side by side before. This is an opportunity for them to get together and be with Al and Tipper and discuss the state of Democratic politics currently and in the future." Berger said it's clear that Gore is interested in running for president again, noting his strong performance in 2000: "He got more popular votes than anybody since Ronald Reagan ......................................... FREEP BARF ALERT FREEP BARF ALERT FREEP BARF ALERT
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 19:33:11 (EDT)

My two cents are: From each, according to his ability; to each, according to his need. GWB
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 19:27:36 (EDT)

My two cents are: When you're masturbating and your hand falls asleep.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 18:47:18 (EDT)

My two cents are: Question for Glint and Pete? Whats the ultimate in rejection?
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 18:46:54 (EDT)

My two cents are: Any suggestions for decorating a jail cell?
Martha Stewart
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 18:29:40 (EDT)

My two cents are: The good thing about following the poll numbers is, once they get high they stay high. You don't have to sweat blood any more, if you are a poll-watcher and your man pulls some good numbs.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 18:23:50 (EDT)

My two cents are: Repent, sinner!!
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 18:21:47 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sure, I suppose some grannies are hot. That one brunette (ref: April 13, 2002 at 19:11:15) - best friend of the teenage blonde backdoor beauty queen - looks like she can still take at least big one coming at a time.
Glint
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 18:19:55 (EDT)

My two cents are: Not that the polls mean anything, of course. It's all in how you ask the questions and raise the eyebrows.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 18:17:10 (EDT)

My two cents are: Yeah, but Clinton had to get impeached by Republicans to get those numbers. Snippy didn't even have to deal with Republicans to get his numbers.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 18:11:27 (EDT)

My two cents are: Enron is over? Snippy survived it with the same numbers Clinton came out of impeachment with? Wow, geesh.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 18:06:22 (EDT)

My two cents are: Does everyone know that Tom DeLay's bill authorizing Snippy to invade Holland if any Americans are ever detained by the new world court has passed both the House and Senate, and is in conference. Congratulations, Tom. But let's soften them up with artillery before we go in-- "percussive" shells over their emplacements and all. Take out the rail system. Let's not lose American lives unnecessarily.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 18:02:34 (EDT)

My two cents are: Some of those grandma's can be pretty hot, eh, Glint. Some of them even have the double-palooza. Is that why you posted that?
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 17:57:41 (EDT)

My two cents are: Aha! The Glumpster is back, with his finger on the pulse of America and a new way to say 70. The upper quad. I like it. Business is healthy- everyone is still getting a fair shake. Cheap electricity in every outlet, and the Bush family/Enron thing is nothing to worry about. Everything will just keep getting better and better. The Bush management and intelligence fuckups are a joke. After the shakedown the Bushers will start catching bombers before they bomb, the way Clinton did with the LAX/millenium bomb-meister, or catch them and put them away, the way Clinton's boys did with the WTC bombers. They just had to have it brought to their attention that this was serious, but now they are focused. Get the appropriate elements of various existing departments into a new department, with some brand-new stationery, and everything will drop into place. Look at what this wonder-boy Cheney can do! After a twenty-year career at the govenment trough he put in eight years at Halliburton and made millions! In the private sector! With no help from the government! By submitting bids that the Department of Defense couldn't refuse, they were so good. Hey, don't tell me about good! Life itself is good! Let's recharge them batteries and maybe go squash some gourds this weekend.
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- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 17:54:45 (EDT)

My two cents are: US to extradite Vietnamese bomb suspect to Bangkok... LOS ANGELES - A Vietnamese emigre who allegedly attempted to plant a bomb at the Vietnamese Embassy in Thailand will be extradited to Bangkok to face terrorism charges, American prosecutors said. Van Duc Vo, 42, of Baldwin Park was arrested last year at John Wayne Airport in Orange County after stepping off an Alaska Airlines flight from Seattle. He was charged in the United States with conspiracy to use a weapon of mass destruction but prosecutors decided to drop the charges after he agreed he will not fight extradition to Thailand. Vo, a naturalised US citizen, is a member of Free Vietnam, an organisation dedicated to overthrowing Vietnam's government. The group is run by several exiles who vow to liberate their homeland. The man allegedly placed a backpack full of explosives in front of the Vietnamese Embassy in Bangkok in June last year, Thai authorities said. He also threw a box over the embassy fence, which contained 5 kg of diesel fuel and ammonium nitrate, the authorities said. Notes were attached to both items and linked to a detonator that was supposed to be activated by a cell phone, prosecutors said. The bombs never went off. Vo faces nine counts of firearms and explosive charges in Thailand and could be extradited within the next few months, assistant US attorney Andrew Brown said on Wednesday. Vo's brother, Van Tri Vo, is facing charges for bombing bids in Manila. --AP
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 17:51:39 (EDT)

My two cents are: It's illegal to rape a dying person?
Snippy
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 17:50:01 (EDT)

My two cents are: DYING GRANDMOTHER RAPED IN HOSPITAL TOILET: A grandmother dying of cancer has been raped on a hospital ward... MORE...
Developing
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 17:46:36 (EDT)

My two cents are: Damn, it looks like the American Taliban might skate, unless Ashcroft can find some better loopholes in the Constitution. Why didn't we amend the goddamn thing when we still had the time? The demonRATS, that's why. Every time we try to amend the constitution and adapt to new situations by introducing elements of totalitarianism, the Dimbos leap up and start yapping that the sky is falling. As for me and Steven Spielsberg, we'd just as soon trade the constitution for protection from the one in 20 million chance that we might die at the hands of one of these wild Arabs.
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- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 17:42:06 (EDT)

My two cents are: Poor Liberals. Can't find any more dead horses to beat. Trail's gone cold with Enron. "Terrorgate" scandal - a joke. Poll numbers in the upper quad. More tough times ahead for sure. <> Happy Flag Day! Cast was cut off via circular saw this morning. Took the day off - relaxing. Need to recharge every once in a while. Then keep rolling.
Gllint
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 17:41:39 (EDT)

My two cents are: Fee-splitter?
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 17:40:25 (EDT)

My two cents are: Maybe Pete's a lawyer and splitter is one of those Latin legal terms.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 17:40:08 (EDT)

My two cents are: Drunk for the last 4 years? Geesh.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 17:32:37 (EDT)

My two cents are: I'm not trying to condemn him or defend him. I am just trying to understand his posts. So I can help straighten the poor sap out. Call me a pollyanna. I consider this part of my 4,000 hours. My second 4,000 hours. Snippy uttered the clarion call again today, and who can cry "nay?" Not this volunteer.
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- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 17:31:55 (EDT)

My two cents are: My conclusion is that he was drunk. He seems to be getting drunk earlier and earlier in the day. Not that you can blame the poor bastard. This is Pete we're talking about, after all.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 17:28:38 (EDT)

My two cents are: It's not easy to defend the poor bastard. I tried. I regret it now. Fuck him.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 17:27:02 (EDT)

My two cents are: Maybe he meant "spitters." Or maybe "stutterers." Or it could have been "sitters." Even "shitters" would have worked better. "Go gitters?" "Hitters?" "Litterbugs?" "Jitterbugs?" "Knitters?"Quitters?"
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 17:25:38 (EDT)

My two cents are: Well, shit, I tried. I kind of figured we'd get hung up on "splitter" whether function, dysfunctional or neither. You birds can parse it out yourself. Or you brethren sistern, as Pete says.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 17:24:00 (EDT)

My two cents are: What do you mean, "split what?" Split what have you. Split the grease in the pan. Split the difference. Do the splits. Split the hair in four parts. Split the black oak. Split it down the middle. What the hell does it mean, what they split? The important thing is the ACT of splitting. The FUNCTION of splitting, which has become a DYS-funtion? Does every stanza have to be explained to you? I hate to think what you'd do with Shakespeare, or with Emily Dickenson.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 17:20:02 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 17:16:10 (EDT)

My two cents are: What does it matter, whether he's modifying "splitter" with "dysfunctional" or the other way around or neither. Does it help me understand what a splitter is? I don't think so. And don't the splitter part and the dysfunctional part modify one another to a degree whether one or the other is a recognized modifier, because he's trying to describe how the liberal are dysfuntional as whell as that they are dysfuncional. In other words, one might say that somebody is a "dysfunctional kleptomaniac", meaning that the nature of his dysfunction is that he steals things. I think that Pete is saying, whatever grammar rules or lack of rules he is following or lost in, that liberals, or most liberals, are dysfunctional because they are splitters. My question is, split what? Is that too much to ask? Split fucking what, OK?
possible splitter...
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 17:15:57 (EDT)

My two cents are: Geesh, you guys! Look, I hate to do this, but somebody has to defend Pete. Maybe he wasn't modifying "splitters" with "dysfunctional." In fact, it's quite apparent that he was saying liberals are dysfunctional AND splitters. I hope this helps.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 16:45:42 (EDT)

My two cents are: Is that 22 forwards or backwards? Doink.
Pete�
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 15:55:12 (EDT)

My two cents are: I take umbrage at that. I'm a functional splitter. I take my functional splitting as a sense of pride.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 15:42:11 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sure, a lot of liberals are dysfunctional splitters and can't understand satire. But liberals who are functional splitters do exist. Who is to say that some of the 22 liberals don't split functionally? I say keep up with the satire, Pete. Use the long rod and the dark tunnel and the twat wide open as only you can. Use the big one cumming and even pussed over and sewn shut. You have a potential appreciative audience here among the 22.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 15:42:09 (EDT)

My two cents are: 15:24 imposter need sto study his brethren's sistern at 15:04 about: "it's the absent of thought in the sentence."
Pete�
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 15:41:50 (EDT)

My two cents are: The man simply doesn't understand satire. Must be a liberal. Or a sewn shut twat. Get it?
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 15:39:09 (EDT)

My two cents are: I'm tired of Pete coming on here and bullying everyone with the tools of his trade, superior logic and precision. He is an impossible match for anyone who is a dysfuncional splitter, and I've never encountered a liberal who wasn't one of those. Dysfunctional splitters I mean. They just don't understand how to functionally split. Its the crux of their problem. Unless you can split functionally, you are doomed here. Because you will be crushed by truckloads of falling pineapple.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 15:38:42 (EDT)

My two cents are: Huh?
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 15:36:11 (EDT)

My two cents are: The blows are getting lower and lower. Must mean that the liberals are getting liberaler and liberaler. Doink.
Pete�
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 15:24:49 (EDT)

My two cents are: Fess introduced me to George and now George calls me Petey-pete, or Pitty-poot, or something. Just send a letter to Fess Parker, [email protected], and he'll explain it to you.
�ePte
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 15:23:32 (EDT)

My two cents are: Maybe the pineapple spent too many days in the shade of Kiliminjaro... what a minute! Hello! Kiliminjaro is near the equator, where shade is absent! It looks as if there's shade there, but look closer and shade is absent. Or is it? Don't the natives get d*nged hot without any shade? Everything the pineapple brings up get complicated right away. It looks as if it's simple, but on closer inspection simplicity is absent. Oh you pineapple. Oh you kid.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 15:19:49 (EDT)

My two cents are: What's wrong with the pineapple's sentence is that thought is absent. This is a tough concept for a pineapple to shoehorn into its yellow matter. It turn out that the thought you assumed was there is absent. Get it? Thought is absent? Hey, maybe that's the problem. Diokn.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 15:16:24 (EDT)

My two cents are: What makes it so good? It's not Pete's sentence that's in question, it's the absent of thought in the sentence. When the poor, pathetic pineapple equates a horrible condition (ugliness) with a sense (of pride) the reader is left with no other choice but to assume the poster is lacking coherence. On the other hand, perhaps it's just bad poetry.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 15:04:54 (EDT)

My two cents are: A sense of pride in a something that turns into a nothing that turns into a doink.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 15:01:31 (EDT)

My two cents are: "It looks as if there's a thought there, but then upon parsing it turns out that thought is absent." Talk about a sentence that starts out as something, then turns to nothing. Doink. Pete� - Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 18:11:08 (EDT)
this ones good
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 14:56:31 (EDT)

My two cents are: Butt? Parts? House of Meat loaf?
doink
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 14:55:27 (EDT)

My two cents are: Pete? You're still here? The genuine butt of all disgust? What brings you to these parts?
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 14:52:02 (EDT)

My two cents are: Some sorry liberal predicting the "end of satire"? Talk about speaking out of its arse.
Pete�
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 14:43:39 (EDT)

My two cents are: Poor sick bastard. The poor imbecile thinks he somehow involved in the production end of satire.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 14:21:55 (EDT)

My two cents are: After going to a Mississippi nightclub, the couple left in separate cars, McCool said. Outlaw had stopped his car on Alabama 17 near Aliceville in southern Pickens County when King pulled up behind him. King attacked Outlaw with a knife, slashing his arms and stabbing him repeatedly in the buttocks and rectum, McCool said. "The wounds were so severe to the buttocks that they are gone," McCool said. "It's pretty bad." Outlaw was able to drive his car nine miles on the rural road before collapsing in front of a home in Sumter County, where police and paramedics picked him up two hours later, The Tuscaloosa News reported. King had previously told authorities she had not seen Outlaw after the two left the nightclub at 1:30 a.m. Sunday. King had attempted to get child support in 2000 from Outlaw but the case had been dismissed, according to court records.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 14:09:56 (EDT)

My two cents are: Satire only works on liberals who are not dysfuncional splitters. Haven't found on yet. Doink.
Pete�
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 13:52:52 (EDT)

My two cents are: Why does Jimmy Swaggart need atonement? I thought he was battling Say-tan, that was the whole point of sitting in the dingy motel rooms, staring at the twats wide open. I thought that was standard pentecostal practice! You mean Ashcroft doesn't do that, same as his churchmate, Jimmy? I think it's going to take a little to convince me of that. I think that Ashcroft does a little battling with Say-tan himself. I'd like to see someone try to prove he doesn't. Have the justice department sinks been sent to the FBI for DNA testing lately?
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- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 13:36:53 (EDT)

My two cents are: He'll be back. He's in one of his atonement periods, hoping this time it will stick. A Jimmy Swaggert repentant moment, if you will.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 13:14:17 (EDT)

My two cents are: Not exactly. Glint just fades away. He doesn't make the grand announcement the way Drama Boy does. He doesn't thunder out a curse on both your houses and ride off on his mighty steed. He just sneaks off into the moon-beams.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 13:05:39 (EDT)

My two cents are: Glint quit? Like the Twatster quit?
Mullah Nasruddin 4 or 5 of 22
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 12:49:27 (EDT)

My two cents are: Glint doesn't fear Ashcroft. They're homeboys. Cornbelt poker-asses, each with his little Bible, and each with his little secret. No, any shame that catches up with Glint, it's going to have to be from the television. Television morality is the only kind he'll get. And looking at the cold, lifeless heavens as squirrels romp and birds chirp and earth-bound glorious life abounds all around him. And the dachshund crumples up the welcome-mat and humps it over in the corner of the observatory. Ashcroft would love to be there, but he's got a job or work to do. He's got to smiteth the non-believer, and cover the sinful loins of salacious marble and bronze that the evil ones have sprinkled throughout the land.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 12:41:51 (EDT)

My two cents are: Why did Glint quit? Took his hermaphro-lust as a sense of shame? Oar was it Ashcroft?
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 12:35:15 (EDT)

My two cents are: I't like a sense of hitting his fat, gelatinous, Arab-like bottom.... growf! Maybe getting some of his "specialty!"
Ann "Silver Bullet" Coulter
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 12:19:52 (EDT)

My two cents are: He takes a sense of pride as hitting bottom?
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 12:17:18 (EDT)

My two cents are: He takes hitting bottom as a sense of pride.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 11:06:24 (EDT)

My two cents are: Oh, he's hit bottom if you know what I mean and I think you do.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 10:48:43 (EDT)

My two cents are: You mean he hasn't hit bottom yet?
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 02:47:34 (EDT)

My two cents are: I'd still like to munch his politically incorrect cable-splicing, rain-gutter polishing gelatinous white rump. Just munch down like a bulldog and hold it, dreaming of a really fat Arab, dark tunnels and long rods. Mmmmmm, he's baited me with it daily ever since he sent me that "Open Letter." I got a big one waiting.
Ann Coulter, aka "Dexter"
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 02:19:52 (EDT)

My two cents are: True. But what if it wasn't really a hill, and he wasn't really the king? What if it was just a third-rate web discussion board, where four or five people with somewhat liberal political opinions came to sport with one really stupid right winger? Suppose he was the butt of a joke rather than the king of a hill? Suppose he was just a guy who people could torment and treat cruelly without feeling guilt, because he was such a benighted shithead? Any of these situations could be real... your guess is as good as mine. I suppose the Christian thing to do would be to say, yes, he was king of the hill, and pretend to let him scrabble back into the throne.... but you know, the Christian thing ain't going to happen. I just sense it somehow. It's something I know, but I can't describe or say why or how. It's just a feeling, a conviction really, down in the gut. The poor bastard is never going to be any better off than he already is. He has peaked out. King of the hill or benighted shithead, he's shot his wad and he's on the way down.
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- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 02:12:14 (EDT)

My two cents are: Have some compassion. It's tough being a dethroned king of the hill.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 14, 2002 at 01:03:09 (EDT)

My two cents are: I see your point. Who knows if his ugliness is a sense of pride? Or a sense of anything, for that matter. Maybe a lady's pussed over twat is a sense of pride. Maybe his copper roofing is a sense of...oh...fear. It gets confusing and the easy out is to call it poetry and move on, like you do when a street schizo startles you with some weird yelp. Looks straight ahead and move on.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 22:47:21 (EDT)

My two cents are: Yes, but who's to say he isn't TRYING to post about a lady's twat? That's the whole problem right there.... the reader can never be sure about what the pineapple is trying to say. Deep down inside, he could be transposing the thought "foop" or "POW" with his other thought, "twat." Do you see what I mean? With this character, anything can mean anything. Hitler is a socialist. Craven shit is virtue. George Bush is elected. The Church of Communication is total incomprehensibility. Hey, this guy is OUT there, maybe farther than any of us can comprehend. Maybe he's so far behind that he's ahead, somewhere out in front, although, to be honest, I seriously doubt it. But who the hell knows?
befuddled baseball umpire
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 22:14:45 (EDT)

My two cents are: Maybe poetry, sure. But satire? Methinks not. Methinks it can't be satire if he's not posting about a lady's twat.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 21:14:39 (EDT)

My two cents are: Maybe it was poetry. Or satire.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 20:51:44 (EDT)

My two cents are: Pete is just a furry big cuddly cutesy conservative to me. Off the record, I'd like to shave his left buttock and then bite it. Hard.
Ann Coulter
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 19:42:40 (EDT)

My two cents are: How's about we call it peteheadedness?
Peatish?
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 19:39:26 (EDT)

My two cents are: Why do liberals always dis Pete? The guy is pretty sharp, for a moron. Some day he may come up with a worthwhile thought, or a humorous line.
liberals = no patience
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 19:36:39 (EDT)

My two cents are: I don't think Pete is really dyslexic. In dyslexia, the letters are reversed, or the words may be reversed. With Pete, the thoughts themselves are reversed. Check his last few posts and you will see what I mean. "I take my ugliness as a sense of pride." The original thought here, if there was a thought, is that he is proud of his ugliness, he takes a sense of pride in it, presumably because it means he is not just another pretty face. But he can't say that because the thought gets jumbled and develops an interior backasswardness as it moves through his brainstream. Somehow his ugliness becomes something like a sense of pride, rather than something he is proud of. He has totally lost contact with the spark of his thought. It has lost coherence. It means nothing. How does he manage this? We should call it something more than just stupidity or dyslexia, because it is deeper than either, although it owes something to each. Perhaps we should call it Deep Dyslexia. Or perhaps we should call it addlepatedness. I'm sure that the correct term will develop. We have only to wait.
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- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 19:21:55 (EDT)

My two cents are: Easy. Who needs shoeslaces or belt? Just wait for the firing squad.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 19:14:35 (EDT)

My two cents are: OK, here's the scenario. You've been pulled off the airplane by the FBI. The tell you that you're wanted for thinking about getting into some discussions about dirty bombs, and that you've been leaving cookies on every hermaphrodite web-site in Manila. They take you to a Navy brig somewhere down south, maybe South Carolina, maybe Cuba for all you know, and put you in a bare room with a lightbulb that burns 24 hours a day and a coffee can to squat over. After maybe a week, who knows, they come and tell you that the courts have required whoever has imprisoned you to give you access to a lawyer. The catch is, the lawyer is Pete. What do you do? They have also taken your shoe-laces and your belt.
10 point disciplinary pop quiz
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 19:12:52 (EDT)

My two cents are: Pete, Pete, Pete. What is wrong with you? Thought seems absent. Upon parsing your posts, it still seems absent. You aren't particularly bright, are you? How were you at diagramming sentences?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 19:08:09 (EDT)

My two cents are: What about me? I'm scary too! Grrrrr!
Snip
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 18:52:46 (EDT)

My two cents are: SPIELBERG SIDES WITH BUSH ON FBI PRECRIME; DREAMWORKS EXEC CALLS ASHCROFT 'SCARY'
typical Hollywood lie-bralism
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 18:52:15 (EDT)

My two cents are: Hermaphrodite Johnathan-Sue Kept real cool through the worst you could do When told, "Screw yourself!" It'd grin like an elf And say, "Thanks, I don't mind if I do!"
Richard Glans
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 18:30:40 (EDT)

My two cents are: Hermaphrodites cause a sensation By their odd, two-in-one combination. Concave or convex They are partly each sex, And a dilly at self-fornication.
Richard Glans
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 18:28:35 (EDT)

My two cents are: There was once a young girl from Samoa, Braged she could take in an entire boa, Till a man at a dance Pulled down her pants And filled her tw@t up with spermatozoa.
Dr. J
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 18:23:38 (EDT)

My two cents are: And then there's pride as a sense of ugliness.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 18:20:15 (EDT)

My two cents are: Said E with the pussed over schism, "I'm seeing as though through a prism. Those grunts that I heard As my world became blurred, Imply that my face is covered in jism.
Dr. J
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 18:19:46 (EDT)

My two cents are: "It looks as if there's a thought there, but then upon parsing it turns out that thought is absent." Talk about a sentence that starts out as something, then turns to nothing. Doink.
Pete�
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 18:11:08 (EDT)

My two cents are: It's beautiful! It makes just as much sense with any words you put into it, and in whatever order! Congratulations, Pete! You haven't done such good work since yesterday!
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- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 18:00:17 (EDT)

My two cents are: I take Huey Newton as a sense of pride.
The game of horseshoes
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 17:59:15 (EDT)

My two cents are: I take the game of horseshoes as a sense of pride.
Huey Newton
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 17:58:39 (EDT)

My two cents are: I take the Golden Gate Bridge as a sense of pride.
Herb Caen
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 17:58:12 (EDT)

My two cents are: I take the planet Jupiter as a sense of pride.
Glimp
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 17:57:37 (EDT)

My two cents are: "I take my ugliness as a sense of pride?" That couldn't be a faux Pete. Who else could write a sentence that seems to mean something at first, but then turns out to mean nothing? Pete should patent that technique, except that no one would be able to duplicate it anyway. It looks as if there's a thought there, but then upon parsing it turns out that thought is absent. He seems to be able to do it without even trying.
House of Meat
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 17:56:14 (EDT)

My two cents are: Well, Pete is the same way. He's really moved. Even though he wasn't part of it, wasn't in America, he's still quite moved. I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't sometimes have to choke back a heartfelt sob. Mr. Empathy is what they call him. The bugs call him that.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 17:53:08 (EDT)

My two cents are: I take my ugliness as a sense of pride. Doink.
Pete�
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 17:51:53 (EDT)

My two cents are: I get the feeling that Ann Coulter is really broken up about the slaughtering of thousands of Americans. She seems to still be in mourning. She seems to be on the edge of tears. Her soft heart cries out for closure. Just a feeling.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 17:50:32 (EDT)

My two cents are: I'll bet Pete is as ugly as his writing is cutesy. It's a compensation mechanism. One that some day the FBI may well slaughter thousands of Americans for. Those bastard will slaughter a thousand here, a thousand there, for all sorts of bizarre reasons. Why not Pete's compensation mechanism for his ugly mug?
Ann Coulter, getting down to what it's really all about
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 17:47:26 (EDT)

My two cents are: Why is it that liberals are always down-bumming the "cutesy" writing style? What, I demand to know, is wrong with "cutesy?" I'm going to keep developing my style in the "cutesy" direction, I don't care if a whole FBI-slaughtered sky-scraper full of politically correct liberals complains about it.
Pete�
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 17:43:49 (EDT)

My two cents are: Methinks that Pete is getting dumber than when he started. But on the other hand, how could you get dumber than the Mara Liasson eyebrow code or the Open Letter? What do youthinks?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 17:40:10 (EDT)

My two cents are: That's plenty enough for me, and I'm not even a Liberal. That's a full plate right there. The best thing is, a lot of those people the FBI slaughtered for political correctness were liberals, which will remind them that they can be executed by right-wingers. This thing is working out pretty d*nged fine. Methinks the people I disagree with are on the run. But methinks the New York Times is getting a free ride this week. What's up with that?
Charles Leffington Gould III
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 17:39:10 (EDT)

My two cents are: Liberals should be applauding the white male oppressors at FBI headquarters, not this incipient Mark Fuhrman. It was FBI headquarters that rebuffed Rowley's callous insensitivity to Muslims, refused to engage in racial profiling, denied a warrant request to search Moussaoui's computer, and thus failed to uncover the Sept. 11 plot. The FBI allowed thousands of Americans to be slaughtered on the altar of political correctness. What more do liberals want?
doinked
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 17:19:49 (EDT)

My two cents are: Methinks the liberals are in full bore retreat: "One shudders to think what names liberals would be calling the unglamorous agent if she were a witness to actual crimes committed by their beloved Clinton. Also fortunately for Rowley, liberals aren't listening to her. "
Pete�
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 17:11:49 (EDT)

My two cents are: This Whistle-Blower They Like Universal Press Syndicate | June 13, 2002 By Ann Coulter IN THEIR ENTHUSIASM to bash the Bush administration for its handling of the war - which Democrats consider an annoying distraction from the real business of government, which is redistributing income - the left has embraced FBI agent Coleen Rowley as a modern Joan of Arc. From liberal headquarters in Times Square, Maureen Dowd fawns over Rowley, calling her "the blunt Midwesterner" painting a "stunning and gruesome portrait of just how far gone the bureau is." Frank Rich calls her "a forthright American woman." At least they seem to have gotten over their disdain for government whistle-blowers. Back when the world's most famous whistle-blower produced tapes proving the president of the United States had committed a slew of felonies, the left was more muted in its enthusiasm for female truth-tellers. Dowd called Linda Tripp a "witch" with a "boiling cauldron." Rich said Americans "despise" a "snitch." Fortunately for Rowley, she is only a witness - after the fact - to the FBI bureaucracy's abject fear of racial profiling. One shudders to think what names liberals would be calling the unglamorous agent if she were a witness to actual crimes committed by their beloved Clinton. Also fortunately for Rowley, liberals aren't listening to her. It is striking that the media have refused to report on Rowley's specific indictment of the FBI, preferring to prattle on about her raw courage in the abstract (i.e., she painted "a stunning and gruesome portrait of just how far gone the bureau is." OK - but what did she say, exactly?). Bewildering news accounts leave the impression that Rowley's act of dauntless valor was to fly to Washington to inform the Senate that the FBI has really old computers. In fact, the gravamen of Rowley's 13-page memo is essentially that FBI headquarters botched the Zacarias Moussaoui case by refusing to acknowledge that being a Muslim constitutes "probable cause" for a search warrant. She didn't put it that succinctly, but that is precisely her point. Rowley condemns FBI brass for refusing to authorize a search warrant for Moussaoui based on the following information: He was a Muslim in flight school who had overstayed his visa and toward whom agents were suspicious because he refused to consent to a search of his computer. First of all, refusing consent to a search is not considered suspicious, since it is your right to refuse. Any other rule would allow cops to bootstrap their way into a warrant. "Hi, Zacarias, may we search your computer? No? That's suspicious! Grounds for a warrant!" I don't think so. So, let's see, which of the remaining factors might constitute probable cause? In flight school? NO. Overstayed visa? NO. Is a Muslim? NOT ALLOWED. As Rowley admits, "reasonable minds may differ as to whether probable cause existed" on the basis of Moussaoui being a Muslim. But there is more! She insists that once "French Intelligence Service confirmed his affiliations with radical fundamentalist Islamic groups," probable cause was "certainly established." Not under the law it wasn't. Being in league with known terrorists may be suspicious, but it is not probable cause to believe that a particular crime is being or has been committed by a specific individual. Were the law otherwise, one could get a warrant to search anyone who associates with the Clintons. Moreover, any Muslim who has attended a mosque in Europe - certainly in England, where Moussaoui lived - has had "affiliations with radical fundamentalist Islamic groups." A few months after the Sept. 11 attack, 80 percent of British Muslims said they opposed the war in Afghanistan. The Muslim Council of Britain called for an immediate end to the war. A poll by the Daily Telegraph found that 98 percent of Muslims between the ages of 20 and 45 said they would not fight for Britain - and 48 percent said they would fight for Osama bin Laden. A Gallup poll taken at the end of last year found that only 18 percent of the people in nine Muslim nations believed the yarn about Arabs flying planes into buildings on Sept. 11. (Many subscribed to the Zionist plot theory.) This was based on almost 10,000 face-to-face interviews in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan, Indonesia, Turkey, Lebanon, Kuwait, Jordan and Morocco. Seventy-seven percent said America's military action in Afghanistan was "morally unjustified." In other words, if you associate with Muslims abroad, you are associating with Muslim fanatics. Consequently, Rowley's position is that "probable cause" existed to search Moussaoui's computer because he was a Muslim who had lived in England. I happen to agree with her, certainly after Sept. 11, but liberals don't. So how did Rowley become their Norma Rae? Liberals should be applauding the white male oppressors at FBI headquarters, not this incipient Mark Fuhrman. It was FBI headquarters that rebuffed Rowley's callous insensitivity to Muslims, refused to engage in racial profiling, denied a warrant request to search Moussaoui's computer, and thus failed to uncover the Sept. 11 plot. The FBI allowed thousands of Americans to be slaughtered on the altar of political correctness. What more do liberals want?
go anne go
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 17:10:19 (EDT)

My two cents are: Yeah. The guy nails it every time. Why IS that?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 17:08:52 (EDT)

My two cents are: Anyone ever notice what good timing Pete has?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 17:07:50 (EDT)

My two cents are: What chimp? This is outrageous! The man is a bandy-legged little phrase-mangler, and we love him for it.
Peggy Noonan
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 17:06:48 (EDT)

My two cents are: OK.
Pete�
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 17:06:46 (EDT)

My two cents are: Hey, if someone leaves a note saying "Bush is a Chimp" we have no option but to dwell on it.
White House Counsel
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 17:05:50 (EDT)

My two cents are: The bulk of the report [on naughty Clinton admin pranks], 130 pages, is an extraordinary exchange between the White House and the GAO: 77 pages of responses from the Bush White House rebutting the GAO's findings and 53 pages in which the GAO responds to the White House complaints. Though Bush officials have said repeatedly they had no interest in furthering the controversy, they responded to the GAO report paragraph by paragraph.
No interest whatsoever-- let's move on...
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 17:04:24 (EDT)

My two cents are: Paugh! Unions! A product of the discredited "trickle up" theory of economics! I will join a union when hell freezes over or when Osama bin Laden is paraded in manacles down Pennsylvania Avenue, whichever comes first.
Fess Bottoms, Conservative
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 16:56:30 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sure, it ain't much of a life. But you can always try for the brass ring: you can always send "Open Letters" to Hannity and Rush, and hope that they'll like the cut of your jib. You can always post your best high-school essay, the one where you analyze the history of the world as a figurative "pendulum" or gearshift knob shifting right and left from classicism to romanticism, on obscure web sites and hope that the Oprah Winfrey Book Club notices.
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- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 16:54:07 (EDT)

My two cents are: They have "shape-ups" down at the court-house. Everyone who gets a medallion works that day. If you keep your nose clean, don't drink, don't spend too much time in the bug-house or rehab, you might get a job with one of the big firms. That's where the gravy is.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 16:49:54 (EDT)

My two cents are: Don't paralegals get paid by the union?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 16:46:03 (EDT)

My two cents are: Would those be paying clients or not?
Pete�
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 16:22:28 (EDT)

My two cents are: Barr realizes this planet is lawsuit heaven for lawyers and their clients.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 15:59:04 (EDT)

My two cents are: Bush is dead wrong on the environment.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 15:38:58 (EDT)

My two cents are: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&ncid=716&e=3&u=/ap/20020613/ap_on_go_ot/air_pollution_5
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 15:23:32 (EDT)

My two cents are: http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36%257E87%257E669659%257E,00.html
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 15:03:45 (EDT)

My two cents are: I used to own a piece of the rock. Now, I'm looking into pyramids and such ...
Pete�
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 14:07:29 (EDT)

My two cents are: He has one hell of a lawyer, though. If I were Flynt, I'd be quaking in my boots.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 13:01:39 (EDT)

My two cents are: Bob Barr's Believe It or Not The Reliable Source can be reached at [email protected], or c/o The Washington Post, 1150 15th Street, N.W., Washington, D.C., 20071. Here is an archive of columns. By Lloyd Grove Washington Post Staff Writer Thursday, June 13, 2002 We never realized that that Rep. Bob Barr -- the Georgia Republican who so despised Bill Clinton that he demanded his impeachment before the Monica Lewinsky scandal -- was such a delicate hothouse flower. Well, it turns out that Barr was deeply hurt by all those slings and arrows during his 1998 ordeal as a Republican impeachment manager. Barr was so wounded, in fact, that he has filed suit in a Washington federal court against the former president, Clinton loyalist James Carville and politically active pornographer Larry Flynt seeking compensatory damages "in excess of $30 million" for "loss of reputation and emotional distress" and "injury in his person and property" allegedly caused by these three -- who Barr claims conspired to "hinder [the plaintiff] in the lawful discharge of his duties." When Barr's normally media-friendly lawyer, Judicial Watch president Larry Klayman, initially declined to comment on the lawsuit, we sensed that something highly unusual was afoot. The suit was filed very quietly back in March, but didn't come to light until yesterday, when Flynt issued a press release. Maybe Barr, who was mum yesterday, thought the publicity wouldn't help his tough primary race against Rep. John Linder, another Republican incumbent, in their freshly re-drawn congressional district. Defendant Flynt, meanwhile, declared: "This time, Barr has kicked the wrong dog." Defendant Carville told us: "To call this suit 'frivolous' would be to elevate the status of 'frivolous.' " Clinton's attorney, David Kendall, said: "The claims have no legal merit and will be defended vigorously." In due course, the strangely reticent Klayman said: "I don't wish to comment on the substance of the case. However, it is serious, and the congressman is confident of prevailing."
Pushed too far, the pumpkin man lashes out in defense
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 13:00:26 (EDT)

My two cents are: English lesson: I suppose it is about time to reveal to Fornigate that in English we don't capitalize the seasons. This should save you some pinky fatigue the enxt time you feel the need to talk about the summer's investment plans.
Captain Hope for Literacy
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 12:45:00 (EDT)

My two cents are: Good idea on the land. Nobody ever lost money investing in real estate. Except for the Founding Fathers, the Continental Congress, George Washington, Daniel Boone, John C. Calhoun, Abraham Lincoln, William McKinley, Andrew Carnegie, John D. Rockefeller, Herbert Hoover, Thomas Alva Edison, Jean-Paul Sartre, Sonny Bono, Donald Trump, the Mormon Tabernacle Choir, and Fess Parker.
This is a sure thing! Wish I had a piece of it!
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 12:39:46 (EDT)

My two cents are: How about one a week for the next twenty years? -- Ann Coulter
bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 12:16:06 (EDT)

My two cents are: "IPO's are not a good idea right now." - Pete�. I agree that's why I've decided that this Summer it's land. A piece of the planet, a chunk of the rock.
Glint
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 12:11:15 (EDT)

My two cents are: I don't know how many more withering attacks on liberals I can stand from Coulter and her twin sister, Pete.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 11:53:42 (EDT)

My two cents are: Boulter should be executed just to put right-wingers on notice that they better behave.
card-carrying ACLU member and honorary Negro
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 10:52:25 (EDT)

My two cents are: Right. POW! Dionk!
liebrals finally admit it
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 10:50:14 (EDT)

My two cents are: So what? As a liberal, I'm happy that the thousands were slaughtered by the FBI for political correctness. What more could a liberal want?
A Liberal
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 10:49:24 (EDT)

My two cents are: No, anonymous, Coulter is right. The thousands were slaughtered for political correctness, just as Coulter says. Let's call a spade a spade. Reasoned political discourse demands it.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 10:48:22 (EDT)

My two cents are: While I agree with Coulter that the FBI allowed thousands of Americans to be slaughtered, I think it is an exaggeration to say that it was for political correctness. I think the motivation probably was conservativism. Just my opinion, man.
.
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 10:47:09 (EDT)

My two cents are: I don't think it's a real Coulter. I spanked a Netscape search on it for New York Times, and evidently it's not in there. First one shows up in the post below. How can there be a Coulter column that doesn't bitch and whine about the New York Times? This is a fake.
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- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 10:45:02 (EDT)

My two cents are: Maybe that's why I couldn't read it. Bit too close to the bone.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 10:42:32 (EDT)

My two cents are: I read the Coulter screed and it isn't one her really good ones, although I heard her say on the radio yesterday that it was a doozy. So, Coulter lies. The only good part is where she sort of shames the liberals of supporting the FBI shit-disturber woman after treating Linda Tripp with revulsion.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 10:08:57 (EDT)

My two cents are: by Ann Coulter/ This whistle-blower they like/ http://www.NewsAndOpinion.com | In their enthusiasm to bash the Bush administration for its handling of the war -- which Democrats consider an annoying distraction from the real business of government, which is redistributing income -- the left has embraced FBI agent Coleen Rowley as a modern Joan of Arc. From liberal headquarters in Times Square, Maureen Dowd fawns over Rowley, calling her "the blunt Midwesterner" painting a "stunning and gruesome portrait of just how far gone the bureau is." Frank Rich calls her "a forthright American woman." At least they seem to have gotten over their disdain for government whistle-blowers. Back when the world's most famous whistle-blower produced tapes proving the president of the United States had committed a slew of felonies, the left was more muted in its enthusiasm for female truth-tellers. Dowd called Linda Tripp a "witch" with a "boiling cauldron." Rich said Americans "despise" a "snitch." Fortunately for Rowley, she is only a witness -- after the fact -- to the FBI bureaucracy's abject fear of racial profiling. One shudders to think what names liberals would be calling the unglamorous agent if she were a witness to actual crimes committed by their beloved Clinton. Also fortunately for Rowley, liberals aren't listening to her. It is striking that the media have refused to report on Rowley's specific indictment of the FBI, preferring to prattle on about her raw courage in the abstract. (I.e., she painted "a stunning and gruesome portrait of just how far gone the bureau is." OK -- but what did she say, exactly?) Bewildering news accounts leave the impression that Rowley's act of dauntless valor was to fly to Washington to inform the Senate that the FBI has really old computers. In fact, the gravamen of Rowley's 13-page memo is essentially that FBI headquarters botched the Zacarias Moussaoui case by refusing to acknowledge that being a Muslim constitutes "probable cause" for a search warrant. She didn't put it that succinctly, but that is precisely her point. Rowley condemns FBI brass for refusing to authorize a search warrant for Moussaoui based on the following information: He was a Muslim in flight school who had overstayed his visa and toward whom agents were suspicious because he refused to consent to a search of his computer. First of all, refusing consent to a search is not considered suspicious, since it is your right to refuse. Any other rule would allow cops to bootstrap their way into a warrant. "Hi, Zacarias, may we search your computer? No? That's suspicious! Grounds for a warrant!" I don't think so. So let's see, which of the remaining factors might constitute probable cause? In flight school? NO. Overstayed visa? NO. Is a Muslim? NOT ALLOWED. As Rowley admits, "reasonable minds may differ as to whether probable cause existed" on the basis of Moussaoui being a Muslim. But there is more! She insists that once "French Intelligence Service confirmed his affiliations with radical fundamentalist Islamic groups," probable cause was "certainly established." Not under the law it wasn't. Being in league with known terrorists may be suspicious, but it is not probable cause to believe that a particular crime is being or has been committed by a specific individual. Were the law otherwise, one could get a warrant to search anyone who associates with the Clintons. Moreover, any Muslim who has attended a mosque in Europe -- certainly in England, where Moussaoui lived -- has had "affiliations with radical fundamentalist Islamic groups." A few months after the Sept. 11 attack, 80 percent of British Muslims said they opposed the war in Afghanistan. The Muslim Council of Britain called for an immediate end to the war. A poll by the Daily Telegraph found that 98 percent of Muslims between the ages of 20 and 45 said they would not fight for Britain -- and 48 percent said they would fight for Osama bin Laden. A Gallup poll taken at the end of last year found that only 18 percent of the people in nine Muslim nations believed the yarn about Arabs flying planes into buildings on Sept. 11. (Many subscribed to the Zionist plot theory.) This was based on almost 10,000 face-to-face interviews in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan, Indonesia, Turkey, Lebanon, Kuwait, Jordan and Morocco. Seventy-seven percent said America's military action in Afghanistan was "morally unjustified." In other words, if you associate with Muslims abroad, you are associating with Muslim fanatics. Consequently, Rowley's position is that "probable cause" existed to search Moussaoui's computer because he was a Muslim who had lived in England. I happen to agree with her, certainly after Sept. 11, but liberals don't. So how did Rowley become their Norma Rae? Liberals should be applauding the white male oppressors at FBI headquarters, not this incipient Mark Fuhrman. It was FBI headquarters that rebuffed Rowley's callous insensitivity to Muslims, refused to engage in racial profiling, denied a warrant request to search Moussaoui's computer, and thus failed to uncover the Sept. 11 plot. The FBI allowed thousands of Americans to be slaughtered on the altar of political correctness. What more do liberals want?
Just don't dust Ann's back for Muslim fingerprints
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 10:06:12 (EDT)

My two cents are: Aunt Peggy thinks she's a bit of all right. Whacks the liberals upside the head no end.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 09:52:50 (EDT)

My two cents are: Didn't Coulter join some Mustafa's hareem or something? Was she a real fourth wife or just a concubine? What number is she?
Mullah Nasruddin 4 or 5 of 22
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 00:58:08 (EDT)

My two cents are: Coulter this week is complaining about liberals, who have done something wrong. As far as I read I found she didn't particularly like the FBI lady or Maureen Dowd or a third person, who is a liberal, according to her. I didn't even get down to the part about how the New York Times is to blame. If you want that much, you'll have to read it. More than I could face this eve. After Glint posts it, I might read more. After Pete posts it, thinking he is making a statement of his beliefs, I may read yet more. Can't chew the whole loaf right now.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 00:12:22 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 23:05:04 (EDT)

My two cents are: watched midsummer nd with callista flockhart last night.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 22:32:19 (EDT)

My two cents are: That dodge didn't work for Oedipus, ain't gonna work for no Glymph.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 22:12:19 (EDT)

My two cents are: Yeah, its going to be his defense when ashcroft comes for the hard drive... but I'm blind, I tell you, blind....
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 22:06:38 (EDT)

My two cents are: The grasshoppers have arrived. The munching shall begin.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 22:05:30 (EDT)

My two cents are: Perhaps its more of some sort of deranged penance or atonement, you know, blinding himself for leering at all those internet trannys and hermphs.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 22:04:42 (EDT)

My two cents are: Aw sheeit, you guys blew it, this was glunts big plan to get the pineapple to stare directly into the equatorial sun proving with definity that there is no shady side to kilimanjaro.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 22:02:46 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 22:00:45 (EDT)

My two cents are: But it IS nanny-state hooey! It IS!!
Lemon Jefferson
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 21:58:21 (EDT)

My two cents are: The picked bones of a small animal, possibly a canine, were found nearby. Authorities do not believe the two discoveries are connected.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 21:54:53 (EDT)

My two cents are: Yes, a sun-gazing picnic at the cemetary. "Family of right wing loonballs found blind after staring at the sun for 4 hours in Arlington National Cemetary" Father explained he was de-bunking another Clinton lie, that the sun was not real. That Clinton had stolen the real one and the fake one was nothing but a giant porchlite on the other side of some invisible leyland cypress trees. A mason jar of urine was also confiscated.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 21:49:02 (EDT)

My two cents are: I remeber about a year or two ago he said something about seeing all these spots in front of his eyes. Now the car wreck. hmmmm. Blinded by the right?????
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 21:44:21 (EDT)

My two cents are: I sort of have this image of Glint gradually getting the idea that all this "you have to use filters to look at the sun stuff" is just a bunch of nanny state liberal hooey. Fear inspiring BS like the military industrial complex and the status quo tried to feed us about acid and flashbacks and chromosome damage. He's already started stepping down regular lenses without a filter and basically just wandering outside to stare at the sun even without an event or anything. Probably wont be long now until they find him stumbling blindly over the tombstones at Arlington National Cemetary, eyes literally seared out of his skull and feeling frantically at the etched names calling "John, John, John".
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 21:39:42 (EDT)

My two cents are: So, if I give Pete $100, he'll return only $40? But, Ponzi guarantees a $60 return? Nice try, Pete!
Clem "Turnip" Cornwaller
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 21:30:37 (EDT)

My two cents are: Gosh, that's great! That poor, sick moron Pete can get us only 40%.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 20:55:05 (EDT)

My two cents are: Wait! Do not deal with this false man! You give me the check, I get you 60, maybe 70% for heem. You write it out to me, Francisco Ponzi. I can ride this 'stocks market' like a big gray horse! Thanks to you very much.
Ponzi
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 20:14:52 (EDT)

My two cents are: http://serendipity.magnet.ch/wot/bushflub.htm
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 19:17:34 (EDT)

My two cents are: http://www.buzzflash.com/analysis/2002/06/11_Booker.html
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 19:00:58 (EDT)

My two cents are: TORONTO -- The Bush administration opposes the labeling of genetically engineered food, Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson told the world's premier biotechnology industry gathering. "Mandatory labeling will only frighten consumers," he said during a breakfast speech Monday at the BIO 2002 conference. "Labeling implies that biotechnology products are unsafe."
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 18:25:25 (EDT)

My two cents are: Tell you what, socialsit morons, just write me a check and I'll give you a 40% return. Doink.
Pete�
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 18:24:09 (EDT)

My two cents are: Life. What a beautiful choice.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 18:13:59 (EDT)

My two cents are: Former ImClone CEO Accused of Fraud (AP) - The former CEO of ImClone Systems was arraigned Wednesday on charges of conspiracy to commit securities fraud for allegedly tipping off two people to sell stock in the biotech company the day before federal regulators rejected its application for a cancer drug. FBI agents arrested Samuel Waksal at his home at 6:30 a.m., said Waksal's spokesman, Scott Tagliarino.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 18:13:13 (EDT)

My two cents are: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/698992/posts Read this not so much for the article but the core attitude of the self righteous conservaties. What hypocrites.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 18:01:30 (EDT)

My two cents are: Looks as if Pete left a mess of confused investors here. The least he can do is come back and explain what he was trying to say. Unless, of course, he didn't have anything to say and was just making noise to make himself feel better.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 17:56:23 (EDT)

My two cents are: I still don't know what I should do! Should I star cash heavy for a bit, or should I buy the enxt big terrorist attack? I suppose it depends on what it is.
....or does it?
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 17:48:44 (EDT)

My two cents are: OK, I get the part about the rally in the pre and post October period, but what do I do if the rally occurs on the month left over, October itself? Do I buy or sell? Or does that, too, "depend on what it is?"
worried Tampa investor
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 17:34:08 (EDT)

My two cents are: Remember that while you watch the summer doldrums, keep an eye peeled for "maybe a rally in mid-summer or pre-October/post-October period." Now, what you do about this rally is up to you, because it "depends what it is of course." Are we clear on that?
Chuck Schwaub
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 17:32:05 (EDT)

My two cents are: Is Pete drinking again? Or was he always this stupid?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 17:29:10 (EDT)

My two cents are: Poor Pete. Here is a guy dumb enough to assume that if there is a enxt big terrorist attack, the markets will be halted. The lemming following his own great market advice will never make a nickel, because he'll spend the three months after the Series Blimp Attack waiting for trading to halt. What an absolutely lame moron. What a pitiful, idiotic rube.
House of Meat
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 17:27:55 (EDT)

My two cents are: I wish the webmaster were still alive. He could change the bit about searing the meat to "watch the summer doldrums."
sound advice. SOUND fucking advice...
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 17:20:03 (EDT)

My two cents are: Wait a minute, what about "watch the summer doldrums?" I say the p-apple is a genius! An original genius! Watch the summer doldrums. The sheer beauty of it! Is this guy good or what?
.
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 17:16:59 (EDT)

My two cents are: IPO's never were a good idea unless you were an investment banker or had one beholden to you, and could be on the inside of the scam. Then there were the chumps, like the pinapple chump, who is going to be explaining his fool-proof system for winning roulette next. Chances are it will be something equally sophisticated as his stock investment strategy, something like "put 50% on red and 50% on black and pray zero doesn't come up."
House of Meat
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 17:14:20 (EDT)

My two cents are: Yep, and I didn't include the Bermuda Triangle or Area 51, either.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 17:10:02 (EDT)

My two cents are: ?????
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 17:09:08 (EDT)

My two cents are: IPO's are not a good idea right now. Watch the summer doldrums. Maybe a rally in mid-summer or pre-October/post-October period. Depends what it is of course. Stay cash heavy for a bit. Or buy the enxt big terrorist attack: 50% before the markets are halted and 50% when they reopen.
Pete�
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 17:06:43 (EDT)

My two cents are: "... the internet, love canal, and now the lincoln bust caper."
you're forgetting "Love Story"
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 16:58:03 (EDT)

My two cents are: That IPO (ref: May 22, 2002 at 15:31:53) is already down 0.560 for the day.
Glint
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 16:46:27 (EDT)

My two cents are: Gore... Gore... name rings a bell.... Isn't he the guy who headed up the commission that said airport security sucked and needed to be improved to protect America from evil doing? And the administration tried to do that but the Republican congress killed the idea because the airlines paid them off? Is that the Gore you're talking about?
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- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 15:41:02 (EDT)

My two cents are: So that means that what sticky-fingered Al was doing in the White House was sitting in his "ceremonial office" in the White House? Yeah, "ceremonial office".... sounds to me like a crash pad for use during burglaries.
... the internet, love canal, and now the lincoln bust caper
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 15:36:59 (EDT)

My two cents are: Searched that GAO report for mention of the infamous Lincoln bust that Al Gore stole, and found that it was in the vice president�s ceremonial office and packed up with his personal stuff by the movers. In other words, that lazy bastard Gore didn't do his own packing. Or didn't steal his own Lincoln bust if you want to think ill of him. Ahh, it's stuff like this that really brings the foam out onto the lips of our right-wingers. The report is a wonderful trove of things to misreport and lie about. Have at it, virtuous ones.
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- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 15:33:09 (EDT)

My two cents are: Another gate bites the dust.
doink
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 15:23:15 (EDT)

My two cents are: Here's an example of what the GAO had to do in responding to the White House counsel's voluminous comments on the "alleged vandalism" report to Barr. You might be asking yourself why the White House would bother, given that there's a war on and we're locked in deadly embrace with the evil ones, but, hey: "In comment 112, the White House noted that the director of GSA�s White House service center said that he observed little in the way of damage, vandalism, or pranks during the 2001 transition, so when he said the condition of the office space during the 2001 transition was the same as what he observed during the 1989 transition, this means that he claims not to have observed much in either transition. For the purposes of clarification, we added that he said that he observed little during the 2001 transition in terms of damage, vandalism, or pranks."
Hey, this is important stuff!
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 15:14:59 (EDT)

My two cents are: Forget the blonde cuban, once you try the redheaded hawaiian, you never go back. (coff)
Pete�
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 15:13:19 (EDT)

My two cents are: You think that's funny. Have you heard the one about how Clinton wouldn't take Osama bin Laden when Sudan offerred to turn him over? This one is a real knee-slapper. Better than the "vandalism" squawk.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 14:39:32 (EDT)

My two cents are: Why let facts get in the way of a good story?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 14:37:28 (EDT)

My two cents are: If you want to read the gao report, here's a link: http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d02360.pdf..... It's pretty hilarious. About a third of the report is a hysterical rebuttal by the Republicans, and there is a response from GAO correcting the rebuttal claims. Read it and weep, silly troglodytes.
Captain U-Read-It
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 14:33:47 (EDT)

My two cents are: GAO AFFIRMS BUSHIES LIED ABOUT "TRASHGATE" The General Accounting Office today issued a report that affirmed the Bush White House lied outrageously about vandalism by outgoing Clinton aides in January 2001. Recall that, in January and February 2001, Bush officials and supporters reported massive theft and destruction by outgoing Clinton staff, both inside the White House and on Air Force One. "$200,000 in furniture taken out," said Fox's Sean Hannity. "The price tag right now is about $200,000," said Bill O'Reilly. Clinton staffers admitted to having pulled some minor pranks -- like removing the "W" keys from some computer keyboards -- but said that the rest of the charges were either false or overblown. And now the GAO has backed them up. According to the new report, Bush aides make their reckless charges without keeping any record of damages. In truth, the GAO report shows that the total cost of "professional clean up" at the White House came to $1150 -- a TINY sum, when you think of moving out an entire presidential staff from where it had worked for eight years. The GAO also reported evidence about vandalism by Bush I staffers when they left in January 1993, including furniture piled up in hallways, words carved into desks (including an obscenity), broken chairs, broken computers and missing hard drives, telephone lines pulled out of walls, leftover food, prank notes, political cartoons in a copy machine and missing office supplies. The then-incoming Clintonites were simply too gracious (and too busy doing the people's business) to raise a stink -- unlike the Bush people, who are ever ready to blow up a fake scandal. The only "mess" the Clinton Administration set about taking care of was the tremendous fiscal mess left over from years of deficit spending. In addition to the modest thousand dollar bill for cleaning expenses, the GAO reported that about $8200 was spent on repairing or replacing keyboards, cellular phones, and other hard-used office materials, including two chairs and one sofa. But it remains unclear how much of this came as a result of pranks or of normal wear and tear. In fact, the investigation, which came at the request of Bob Barr,a notoriously unstable Republican member of the House, and with the full cooperation of the White House, cost taxpayers far more than what was being investigated. Nor did the GAO report any theft or damage on Air Force One -- another allegation spread around like manure by the G.O.P. and its Media toadies back in 2001.
and now, the rest of the story
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 14:27:39 (EDT)

My two cents are: June 12, 2002 -- WASHINGTON - Clinton administration staffers committed $20,000 worth of potentially criminal vandalism at the White House when they left office in 2001, congressional probers have found. At least 62 "w" keys were yanked off computer keyboards, obscene voice mail was left, desk drawers were glued shut and 26 cell phones were missing, as was a $350 presidential seal. "Intentional damage at the White House complex is both inappropriate and a serious matter," says the Government Accounting Office's 220-page report. The report also, for the first time, reveals that a bust of Abraham Lincoln vanished and was found at former Vice President Al Gore's home.
What was sticky fingered Al doing in the WH, measuring the windows?
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 14:12:43 (EDT)

My two cents are: WASHINGTON (AP) - An appeals court on Tuesday reinstated two counts in a civil suit brought against former President Clinton by one-time schoolmate Dolly Kyle Browning, who accused him of trying to stop her from publishing a book about the mistress of a Southern governor. In the decision, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia sent conspiracy and interference charges back to U.S. District Court for further consideration. Browning's lawyer, Larry Klayman of the conservative group Judicial Watch, said he planned to call Clinton for a deposition.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 14:08:02 (EDT)

My two cents are: Look, the numbers are still in the low to mid 70s and that's where they have to stay. If everybody gets shot again, that will do the trick. Otherwise, you lock up some shady-looking Americans and crow about conecting a dot. Hall and Halliburton, Enron and the wily Osama keep percolating beneath the layers of foam. Numbers stay high. Until they don't. It's wag the Bull Mastiff.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 13:45:33 (EDT)

My two cents are: Have you noticed that this is real wag-the-dog stuff? Bush and his people are wagging expected attacts and perps by suspected intention to keep peoples' minds off his fuckups, the sinking stock market, the inability to find Osama or hurt Al Caida, Enron and Halliburton, chunking the potential mid-east peace. This is for real, an actual approach to something resembling treason by the executive branch. These Bush people have no morals, no patriotism, no respect for their fellow-citizens. Disgusting, really.
House of Meat
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 13:37:38 (EDT)

My two cents are: Don't care, anonymous. But if I had to choose, I'd say Glunt. Glint is the jism boy, so it fits his m.o. best. Fortunately, Ashcroft has temporarily turned away from chasing perverts and is into preventive detention of small-time purse-snatchers who have been transformed into highly-trained nuclear demolitions experts.
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- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 13:27:15 (EDT)

My two cents are: Dr. Jism? Please. Can there be any doubt?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 13:26:24 (EDT)

My two cents are: Which of the two saps do you figure pretends to be Dr. J?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 13:24:29 (EDT)

My two cents are: Oh, Dr. J! Oh you kid!
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 13:23:43 (EDT)

My two cents are: Plenty of jam for everybody: http://www.julyjamm.org/ Mayo jars not included.
Dr. J
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 13:09:13 (EDT)

My two cents are: Can't fool them farm boys, that's for sure.
Harlan St. Wolf
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 12:59:57 (EDT)

My two cents are: The people in Lincoln were born hep-cats. That's how they'd know, Jackson.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 12:52:58 (EDT)

My two cents are: "Cuban blonde weed?" They have some special sort of marijuana that is "blonde" instead of good old Gringo Green? Ten to one it was Nebraska Ditch that the guy had dipped in Clorox. How would anybody in Lincoln know any different?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 12:38:58 (EDT)

My two cents are: Here is an assortment of web links to some wonderfully colorful cemeteries: http://www.coax.net/people/lwf/cem_usct.htm . Here is a relevant poem for you to ponder this day: http://www.udayton.edu/~dunbar/poem3.htm
Cemetery of the Day
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 12:37:08 (EDT)

My two cents are: Shi*t! And I was going to take the kids on vacation to Prospect Heights. Bummer.
Glug
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 12:34:31 (EDT)

My two cents are: I just did a people search for the guy and found one with the same name living in Prospect Heights, IL. So, if you're anywhere in the area beware that their may be a cache of mayonaise jars filled with toxic waste in your neighborhood.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 12:29:18 (EDT)

My two cents are: Like buying a pig in a poke.
Nebtalk
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 12:19:25 (EDT)

My two cents are: Never adopt.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 12:18:52 (EDT)

My two cents are: They really breed some sickos in Neb.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 12:18:25 (EDT)

My two cents are: I knew this adopted kid who was in the same grade that lived directly across the street in Lincoln who saved his in a mayonaise jar. Showed it to me once. TMI for damned sure. After high school he split and I never saw his filthy hide again. A summer or two later a cousin of his moved in with his parents. Turned out the guy had just returned from Gitmo with a load of kick ass Cuban blonde weed. Best thing was he didn't have any collections he wanted me to look at.
name redacted by requst
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 12:00:31 (EDT)

My two cents are: Ydog, if your parents decide to come down to the pit and console them after the race, do me a favor and remind your mother not to bring her purse. <gt; Q: "how far 897 Severn Court in Sykesville from 3481 Salem Bottom Road in Westminster?" A: 7.83 miles.
Glint
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 11:47:22 (EDT)

My two cents are: Maybe this will teach Paquillo a lon-overdue lesson: DON'T BE A BAD GUY! DON'T BE A WOULD-BE KILLER!
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 11:31:41 (EDT)

My two cents are: How can people be joshing and laughing? I'm worried and damned depressed that the "turf fighters" in the government agencies and in Congress are going to undermine our president's plan to create a huge new bureaucracy in Washington and save us from the Parillos of the world. Can Ashcroft declare Congress void as a potential tool of the terrorists?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 11:31:02 (EDT)

My two cents are: Haw haw haw haw haw.... "jam in a jar!" Haw haw haw. Dr. J, dude, you're starting to rival Clifford for the title of Mr. Chuckles. Keep 'em coming, funny man! "jam in a jar"... hoo hah...
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- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 11:27:05 (EDT)

My two cents are: If the guff that the Lord has been taking from evil-hearted Americans and Negro descendants of Ham isn't enough, now the Lord's Chosen and Anointed Minion, the Attorney General of the United States of America Under God, is taking guff from Ari Fleischer! O tremble, ye of little faith, for the Lord's Anointed One prepareth the bolts of fire and the rod of holy wrath! Ye shall sow the fruits that yet ye reap!
just as soon as we clean out these calico cats
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 11:24:06 (EDT)

My two cents are: Who the fnck is Clark Kerr? Sounds like some kook who saves his jam in a jar.
Dr. J
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 11:20:34 (EDT)

My two cents are: What about this Snippy, saying he's launched a massive man-hunt to seek out Parillo's buds? Haven't they had this guy in the hoosegow for a month and a half? Why the big push all of a sudden? Has this huge manhunt been going on but the Snip just didn't figure it was worth mentioning until Ashcroft drew fire and made the administration* look even more ridiculous than it already did? Doesn't this sort of stuff make the right-wingers wince and remember that they're the kinds of people who go through life begging for wedgies?
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- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 11:18:28 (EDT)

My two cents are: NEW YORK -- A former Boston cab driver once identified by authorities as a major terrorism suspect was kept in solitary confinement for more than eight months here without seeing a judge or being assigned a lawyer, according to court records, lawyers and advocates familiar with the case.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 10:39:16 (EDT)

My two cents are: Threat of 'dirty bomb' softened Ashcroft's remarks annoy White House By Kevin Johnson and Toni Locy USA TODAY WASHINGTON -- Attorney General John Ashcroft on Monday overstated the potential threat posed by ''dirty bomb'' suspect Abdullah Al Muhajir, Bush administration and law enforcement officials said Tuesday. Ashcroft's remarks annoyed the White House and led the administration to soften the government's descriptions of the alleged plot. ''I don't think there was actually a plot beyond some fairly loose talk and (Al Muhajir's) coming in here obviously to plan further deeds,'' Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz told CBS on Tuesday. His comments echoed those Monday of FBI Director Robert Mueller and Deputy Attorney General Larry Thompson. They backed away from Ashcroft's descriptions of the alleged plot but emphasized that Al Muhajir was dangerous and that his arrest was a victory against terrorism. When Ashcroft announced Al Muhajir's May 8 arrest, he said authorities had ''disrupted an unfolding terrorist plot to attack the United States by exploding a radioactive 'dirty bomb.' '' His 14-paragraph statement mentioned radiation or dirty bombs five times, and said Al Muhajir was being detained by the military ''for the safety of all Americans.'' Ashcroft's ominous tone surprised the White House and law enforcement officials here and abroad, including some who had tracked Al Muhajir to al-Qaeda meetings in Pakistan. The law enforcement officials say the evidence against Al Muhajir, 31, indicates he was interested in many scenarios involving explosives, and radioactive materials was one possibility. They say that the former Chicago gang member once known as Jose Padilla was up to no good, but that any plans involving radiation were not as mature as Ashcroft suggested. Administration sources say the White House emphatically told Ashcroft that it was dissatisfied with his description of the alleged plot. Publicly the White House defended Ashcroft, saying he was technically correct. ''There's always a tendency at times like this (that) the initial reports immediately lurch to the worst-case scenario,'' administration spokesman Ari Fleischer said. Justice Department spokesman Mark Corallo said Al Muhajir ''was definitely planning an attack.'' Ashcroft was traveling in Hungary on Tuesday. Despite their private concern that Ashcroft overstated the alleged plot, White House officials cited Al Muhajir's arrest as evidence that Congress should quickly pass President Bush's plan for a homeland security department. Monday's announcement came a day before a New York judge heard a request by Al Muhajir's attorney, Donna Newman, to try to force officials to charge her client or release him. U.S. District Judge Michael Mukasey on Tuesday denied prosecutors' requests to hold the hearing in secret, citing Ashcroft's remarks about the arrest. Newman wants a civilian court to decide whether Al Muhajir is being held lawfully.
oops
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 10:36:48 (EDT)

My two cents are: President Bush branded Padilla a "bad guy" on Tuesday, saying he was one of many "would-be killers" in custody as part of the war against terrorism.
straight from the would-be president's lip
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 10:31:09 (EDT)

My two cents are: Why are they radioactive? More importantly, why are they called "mantles?" What's wrong with good old-fashioned "wicks?"
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 10:10:18 (EDT)

My two cents are: The little bags of netting for gas lanterns (called 'mantles') are radioactive--so much so that they will set off an alarm at a nuclear reactor.
can't be too careful
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 03:34:27 (EDT)

My two cents are: Hey Glit, how far 897 Severn Court in Sykesville from 3481 Salem Bottom Road in Westminster?
bwahahahahahahahahahahah
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 03:16:31 (EDT)

My two cents are: Harclit St. Woof is a liberal terrorist liar.
Pete�
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 03:14:21 (EDT)

My two cents are: I mean, who in the world would believe this shit? This is worse than James Baker saying that the Florida votes were counted over and over and over when the problem was they were never counted once. It couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch of disgusting Republican creeps, though, I'll have to admit.
House of Meat
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 02:18:50 (EDT)

My two cents are: I'm a bit peeved at the way the rest of the world sees Bush for the king of bandly-legged little shit who would push some small-time purse-snatcher up front and claim he was an evil that America was facing in her hour of direst need. In other words, the little shit and his little shit attorney general are lying, and everybody knows it. How in the world does Karl Rove figure this kind of crap is going to hold the chump above 30? Why doesn't he just play a straight game? You'd think even a Republican would at some point realize that you can't lie your way out of every little fuckup.
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- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 02:15:42 (EDT)

My two cents are: British security sources raise doubts over US claims about 'dirty bomber' By Kim Sengupta and Andrew Buncombe in Washington 12 June 2002 British and European security officials are highly sceptical of American claims that the alleged "dirty bomb" plotter, Abdullah al-Muhajir, was preparing to unleash a radioactive attack. British sources point out that despite extensive inquiries, no evidence has been produced to show that he had access to the radioactive material needed to build the bomb, or indeed that he had even worked out a time or place to launch the attack. The most that could be said about Mr Muhajir, a former member of a Chicago street gang now allegedly working for al-Qa'ida, is that he had the "intention" of launching such an attack, security sources said. President Bush announced yesterday that a "full-scale manhunt" was under way across the United States for accomplices of Mr Muhajir. "We will run down every lead, every hint. We're in for a long struggle in this war on terror. And there are people that still want to harm America." Before his arrest at Chicago's O'Hare airport on 8 May, Mr Muhajir - who changed his name from Jose Padilla - stopped in Zurich on the way from Pakistan, where he collected $10,500 (�7,000). Despite claims by the Attorney General, John Ashcroft, that the FBI had disrupted a plan to launch a radioactive attack against Washington, other officials conceded yesterday that there was no evidence that any such plot had progressed beyond the most basic stages. British security sources, who believe Mr Muhajir might have been acting as a courier, said the Americans investigated Mr Muhajir's activities and tried to find a terrorist network he may have been involved with inside the US. The highly publicised announcement of the arrest only came after the failure to find anything more incriminating. In Washington there was a growing suspicion that the arrest was seized on by the Bush administration in dramatic fashion for political ends. British and European security agencies do believe, however, that there is still a real threat of a possible attack.
Geesh! why doesn't OUR liberal press pick up on these scams?
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 02:12:14 (EDT)

My two cents are: Well, 5 is better than 1. They should have known that from the git-go. We rate things on a scale of 1 to 5, sometimes 1 to 10. That's just how it is and how it's always been. I figure your experience was an aberration. They realized their mistake and they corrected it. Let's roll.
Harlan St. Wolf
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 02:11:04 (EDT)

My two cents are: Grent, that may be true, but give president Bush a break-- he has to do something to while away the hours. The whole point of his "election" was to cut a tax break for the rich folks and position the oil companies a little better to grab some of the gravy that the Arabs are licking off the American citizenry. He achieved that great triumph in the first six months. Then this terrorism thing looked like it might have legs, give the Snip something he could handle, an opportunity for some bandy-legged bluster, but it's fizzling-- have you seen the latest Gallup poll? So what the hell is he going to do for three years? You got it-- roll a bunch of mutually exclusive federal departments and bureaus into one big bag of scratching and snarling cats, and who knows? maybe it will scare the Arabs to death. I tell you, the most dangerous thing in any sort of management is having a wild cannon incompetent in a position of power, with nothing harmless to give him to work on. Sure, the little guy would normally just go to sleep for another forty years, but he's got Cheney in the office and he's always felt he should try to keep up with guys like Cheney. That's why he became a cheerleader, to try to keep up with fat sneery four-eyed balding guys who acted as if they knew what they were doing. Guys who could look you in the eye and say they made twenty million dollars a year at Halliburton, and it was all private-sector business, no goddam government handouts. That's the way Snippy wants to be when he grows up. He's going to show them that Arbusto and all the other failures were just flukes. God help the United States of America.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 02:04:16 (EDT)

My two cents are: Unleash them in Pakistan, in Lahore? What about the collateral damage? They've got us by the short hairs. There's nothing we can do but arrest people at random, and hope we got the right ones. Look at this new Department of Arabs or whatever it is-- it's bullshit! They aren't even scoping the FBI, the CIA! I been around federal bureaucracy twenty years or so, intimately, and this is what people do, they re-organize. At least fifty percent of federal bureaucracy activity at the Washington level is some form of reorganizing. For example, they used to rate employees yearly on a scale from 1 to 5. I remember on year 1 was you're out and 5 was the tip-top, you get a prize. All of a sudden there was one year, I think it was only one but it may have been more, where 5 was the lowest you could get and 1 was the highest. This required rewriting everything from the rating forms to the "guidance" on rating to, shit, just everything that had to do with rating personnel in this particular federal department. What for? These dipshits do it all the time, with everything they can convince somebody it needs changing. Dipshits come in from nowhere, maybe from the private consultancies or friends of the vice-president's cousin, and they start reorganizing, and it doesn't really change a fucking thing, it's just a few more pounds on the albatross. That's what the FBI lady in Minneapolis with the big glasses was saying, the people in Washington don't add shit, all they do it retard the delivery of whatever service the outfit is charged with delivering. So here's Snippy Bush, who couldn't run a bought and paid for oil company, guarding us against terrorism with a huge dipshit reorganization. Of the outfits that didn't even fuck up. Gimme a break.
Grent Spodie
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 23:25:58 (EDT)

My two cents are: I say, unleash the Daisy-cutters.
Harlan St. Wolf
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 22:40:46 (EDT)

My two cents are: I thought we destroyed Al Quaida. Now all of a sudden they've sent this Padilla here to destroy us all with some weird bomb made out of fertilizer and used cesium from the destist's x-ray machine. Nobody seems to be telling the truth around here. How many Padillas are loose in America as we speak, cobbling together weapons of mass destruction? Al Quaida seems to be as dangerous as it ever was. Why don't we nuke the mountains down? What kind of pussy sap is running these ops?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 22:31:47 (EDT)

My two cents are: So, in other words, Pete's life has meaning?
curious Tampa grandmother
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 22:24:01 (EDT)

My two cents are: They seek no earthly honor, no Timex watch, no national day of laughter. As long as one moody Nebraska astrologer, or even one zany haole, sees in them virtue, that is honor enough.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 20:55:02 (EDT)

My two cents are: Nothing wrong with apostles of clean, jism-free living. Sure, sophisticated America, Hollywood America, New York City America, hell, maybe even Tuscaloosa America, smirks and chuckles at these rude boys. The thirteen piney-wood stompers, some with three fingers, some with an undescended left nut, some with superating growths next to their rectums that made them unavailable for military service, some merely feeble-minded or suffering from Korsakov's psychosis, all thirteen strode up to the lectern one by one to solemnly explain to an America struggling to choke back the laughter why getting a blow job was an impeachable offense. An America that had been liberated from the traditional Southeastern horror of middle-aged men having their sexual organs manipulated orally by young maidens the age of their daughters, and was now locked in an obscene, sweating, head-to-groin orgy, man and wife, boyfriend-girlfriend, CEO-secretary, janitor-midwife, total stranger-total stranger all across the county, an orgy of mutual oral pleasuring legitimated by their Commander-in-Chief, the aforenamed William Jefferson Clinton. The poor House Managers! Little did they know how ridiculous they looked, except to a few diseased peckerwoods holed up behind copper raingutters or leyland cypress hedges in backwaters here and there across the land. Yet there is nothing wrong with the advocacy of clean, jism-free living, and we should celebrate their tenacity, even as the belly-laughs well up at the thought of the poor bastards, so serious, standing in front of the microphones and pouring out their hearts. Some day, when the national laughter dies down, we should give them a day of their own. Or something. Maybe a new Timex watch for each one.
House of Meat
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 19:59:20 (EDT)

My two cents are: Talk about your legacies. These House Managers have cemented theirs.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 19:57:40 (EDT)

My two cents are: Modern day apostles they were. Saints of the South.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 19:28:04 (EDT)

My two cents are: And in the end, only twelve others measured up. In the end, the House Managers numbered only those noble twelve, plus Bob Barr the Bull Goose Loonball. "One hundred men will jump today, but only three win the green beret," goes the old folk tune.... Real men strode the earth in those days, knights in shiny blue suits with American flag pins stuck to the front of their clothes like a bunch of matron aunties flashing their cameos.... Real loon-balls.... and Bob Barr was the Bull Goose.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 19:08:56 (EDT)

My two cents are: Look, when cockroaches swarm a man, and bring him down, there has to be that first, lonely cockroach. That harbinger of roaches to come. Bob Barr was the bellweather cockroach of the Clinton impeachment, the first to scuttle out into the light of day and up Bill Clinton's shanks, squeaking for the others to follow. It was not as if Bob's colleagues in the house ignored him, no. They always kept an antenna or two flicking in his direction, tasting the wind to see if he would be squashed or would somehow miraculously be ignored as other roaches were emboldened to scuttle out and climb aboard. No, Bob Barr's colleagues never ignored him-- rather they looked at him in awe and asked themselves: do I have what it takes to become as raving a lunatic as THAT guy?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 19:01:46 (EDT)

My two cents are: That's ten days WITH BLUs, of course. Without BLUs and/or tactical nukes, a couple of weeks.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 18:59:37 (EDT)

My two cents are: Yep. I'd give it ten days. Outside. Let's roll.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 18:57:26 (EDT)

My two cents are: Walker Lindh. Pirillo. One by one the big timber is falling. Soon we'll have Osama bin Laden, and the war will be halfway won. The only thing left to do will be to mop up Saddam. Let's roll.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 18:44:53 (EDT)

My two cents are: Wait, it gets worse. Not only did the Senate not heed Bob Barr's clarion call, but the fact is, Bob Barr was way ahead of the curve on impeachment, having advocated it beginning, I believe, as early as 1993. So, not only was Bob Barr ignored by the Senate, but also by his esteemed colleagues in the House.
for shame!
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 18:44:07 (EDT)

My two cents are: Barr was one of the House Managers, wasn't he? Why didn't the Senate listen to what he said and vote to hurl the President out of office? What is wrong with those guys? They must have been playing politics or something. Barr had Clinton dead to rights. The man had definitely got a blow job somewhere along the line. Why wouldn't the Senate believe it?
poor Pete will never understand, either
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 18:09:57 (EDT)

My two cents are: With a guy like Padilla, there's only one dot you need to connect, and that's his ugly face getting off an airplane from Pakistan. This guy is a bad apple from way back. Doesn't even call himself by his Catholic name, Padilla, uses some Arab gobble-gook. Camp X-Ray is too good for this guy. We're keeping him in stoney lonesome until the undeclared war against persons unknown (except for Padilla himself) is un-undeclared. An enemy combattant, just like Clark Kerr, the Chancellor at the University of California in the Reagan years. Just like Martin Luther King. Just like every justice of the Florida Supreme Court. A traitor and an E-nemy of America.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 18:00:44 (EDT)

My two cents are: H.R.3564 : To authorize the limited use of military tribunals absent a war declared by Congress in cases arising out of acts of international terrorism committed in the United States. Sponsor: Rep Barr, Bob- Latest Major Action: 1/28/2002 Referred to House subcommittee.
bob! bob! he's our man!
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 17:29:45 (EDT)

My two cents are: Hey! The FBI sure connected the dot this time. Ask Padilla. Kudos to the Bush Administration*!
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 17:27:20 (EDT)

My two cents are: H.RES.304 : Directing the Committee on the Judiciary to undertake an inquiry into whether grounds exist to impeach William Jefferson Clinton, the President of the United States. Sponsor: Rep Barr, Bob
go bob go!
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 17:26:42 (EDT)

My two cents are: Bob Barr spares nobody. If some file clerk missed the urinal, you can blame not the file clerk, but the Clinton Administration. On the other hand, if the FBI can't connect the dots, and some buildings blow up, the buck stops...with the Clinton Administration.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 17:26:29 (EDT)

My two cents are: Has Bob Livingston weighed in on this?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 17:22:56 (EDT)

My two cents are: "The Clinton administration treated the White House worse than a cowardly husband driving his wife to an abortion." - Rep. Bob Barr, R-GA
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 17:17:57 (EDT)

My two cents are: Clinton & Co. treated the Oval Office sink like a cheap whore.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 17:04:20 (EDT)

My two cents are: "The Clinton administration treated the White House worse than college freshmen checking out of their dorm rooms. They showed nothing less than a complete lack of respect for one of America's most sacred public monuments, and in doing so, they disgraced not just themselves, but institution and the office of the presidency as well." - Rep. Bob Barr, R-GA
the Honorable Bob's word is good enough for me
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 17:03:23 (EDT)

My two cents are: geez?????????? That one was worth a geesh.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 16:47:49 (EDT)

My two cents are: Found some sort of glossy company rag stuffed in my interbubbular mail box. Big news on p.6 is some account manager who races a Westerfield in the UK. Wouldn't you know it, the bloke's name is Nigel. In case you want one to buy for yourself, my fingers have done the walking for you: http://www.findit.co.uk/uk/cars/westfield/305933.htm
Glint
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 16:46:55 (EDT)

My two cents are: USMC_BugEater Veteran Posts: 1007 Registered: Oct 2001 ; posted June 05, 2002 07:47// We are going to lose the war on terrorism. After reading some of these posts, I suddenly realized that the Armed Forces of the United States of America have many of the same problems as the 2002 Huskers. 1. Many of our recruits do not live up to their potential. 2. We have not excelled in every battle we have fought. We've had casualties and injuries. 3. Some of our leaders are not the best in the world. Some of them actually are human and have faults. 4. Many of our members leave the service early due to medical conditions, misconduct, to attend college, etc.... Yes folks, its a downhill slide, start learning Arabic now.
geez!!!
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 16:44:09 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sounds like a couple of guys in need of a DB coach.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 16:42:47 (EDT)

My two cents are: ATLANTIC CITY - They say two democracies have never taken up arms against each other. The same cannot be said of two Democrats. At least not in this town. The city Democratic committee's reorganization meeting ended in a knife fight Monday. Jihad Callaway, brother of Craig Callaway, pulled a knife on Elijah Steele, a supporter of Mayor Lorenzo Langford, in front of Local 54's headquarters, witnesses said. Steele reportedly responded with his own blade.
virtueless scum
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 16:38:05 (EDT)

My two cents are: It was only his DB coach, fool, and apparently a false one anyway. He says that now he's getting a real DB coach, so I wouldn't sell him short. I hope the new coach teaches him how to pretend to be "one of the guys" without all this lame college football talk. It's almost as bad as the episode with the telescope.
.
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 16:27:14 (EDT)

My two cents are: I never realized Pete had a coach. Now Coach is dead and Pete can only rely on his commander-in-chief.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 16:14:38 (EDT)

My two cents are: Hey Glint, our worst coach (former ND DB coach during their worst DB years) has passed away. Sad, but now maybe we will get a real DB coach.
Pete�
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 15:40:39 (EDT)

My two cents are: When Bush was asked about [the Environmental Protection Agency's report] last week, he dismissively remarked: 'I read the report put out by the bureaucracy.' ...White House press secretary Ari Fleischer fessed up: President Bush didn't actually read that 268-page Environmental Protection Agency report on climate change, even if he said he did. Fleischer was asked Monday at his daily White House briefing about Bush's comments that he'd read the report. 'Whenever presidents say they read it, you can read that to be he was briefed,' Fleischer said, producing laughter." --AP, June 10, 2002
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 15:35:24 (EDT)

My two cents are: The only fair poll is the one run by a Democrat and a Republican. Well, DUHHH!
that is the end of the story!
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 15:27:40 (EDT)

My two cents are: If we had nuked the Moselm world when I recommended it, almost NOBODY would be in the early discussion stages of a dirty-bomb plot, and we could keep the hoosegows free for the dope fiends. But nobody has listened to me since Hanratty stole my ideas from Open Letter #2.
Pete�
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 15:18:58 (EDT)

My two cents are: The ABC results are encouraging, true. But I'm disturbed that almost 1 in 4 Americans does not approve of the president's job performance, and is probably constructing a dirty bomb as we speak, or is in the early discussion stages of dirty-bomb plotting. This administration certainly has its work cut out for it.
General Ashcroft
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 15:16:30 (EDT)

My two cents are: Gallup, on the other hand, is so hungry for a wrong answer that he actually engages in stratified sampling, like a scientist or something, questioning representative segments of the population. What a rube. Anyone who doesn't make sure to get at least 50% Republican answers just isn't being fair.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 15:12:25 (EDT)

My two cents are: I won't make up my mind on Bush until I read Zogby. If Zogby says support is holding, then I'm throwing my support to Bush. If he says the rats are leaving the sinking ship, then I'm heading out with the rats. Zogby is almost never wrong, because he's a Democrat with the heart of a Republican and vice versa, all in the same sack of skin. This makes his polls objective, because he has no reason to come up with a wrong answer.
.
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 15:05:38 (EDT)

My two cents are: Wow, a 20-incher. Do they measure those reflectors by diameter or circumfrence? Say it ain't radius. Does the amount of light collected increase most directly as a function of the diameter or the or the area, I guess that's the way to say that? How long is the tube on the 51? It has wheels? I would think it would be the one in the observatory, so why do you need to roll it anywhere? Thought you just pushed some buttons and the observatory top grinds open. How close does an observed object have to be before you can see nip?
Glooth
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 15:00:45 (EDT)

My two cents are: What is 51 cm in real measurement? Not Mars?
Pete�
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 14:52:06 (EDT)

My two cents are: "Do you really have a reflector that big?" - Anonymous@14:00:11. Yes, I use it whenever I don't feel like rolling out the 51 cm reflector.
Glint
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 14:43:54 (EDT)

My two cents are: The latest Post-ABC poll found that Bush's overall job approval rating remains strong. More than three in four Americans -- 77 percent -- say they approve of the way Bush is handling his job as president, including majorities of Democrats, Republicans and independents.
Pete�
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 14:27:23 (EDT)

My two cents are: Support a mile wide, but an inch deep!...Developing
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 14:08:27 (EDT)

My two cents are: Thank God for the ABC poll. They must not ask more Democrats than Republicans the way Gallup does. I knew there would be a poll that showed Bush holding strong in the hearts and minds of his countrymen despite the devastating reports of his incessant fuckups.
Gloop
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 14:05:13 (EDT)

My two cents are: 32 cm, that's about 12 1/2 inches. Do you really have a reflector that big? I'm impressed. I thought you just a guy with a Sharper Image girly scope.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 14:00:11 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 13:57:52 (EDT)

My two cents are: Raccoon attacks Michigan girl, 6, as she plays with friends... Developing
kid needs better friends to hang with
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 13:44:29 (EDT)

My two cents are: Faux Anonymous at 13:41:43 (EDT).
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 13:43:04 (EDT)

My two cents are: It amuses me that Pete and Glint tend to disown the fake posts and treasure the "real" ones. Spread your twat, I've got a big one cumming.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 13:41:43 (EDT)

My two cents are: Hazy sky yesterday, just like today. Found the sun with a 32 cm reflector, stopped down to 10 cm with a glass solar filter. Could barely see the sun it was a very faint and dim. Filter usually renders it a lovely orange, but it was a dark brown. Took off the filter and unstopped the telescope. Held a #14 welder's glass in front of the eyepiece and peered into it. Nothing. Same with #12. finally I just stuck the eyeball up to the unfiltered telescope. Faint pinkish-orange. A couple minutes later it was gone. Completely gauzed out 15 minutes before sunset. How did the Caliban observers do? Eclipse was close to 80% in southern Cali - enough to cause a noticeable - though unsipiring compared with true totaility - darkening.
Glint
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 13:41:06 (EDT)

My two cents are: "It really is sad to see people who have to relive the glorious annular eclipses from the past when a real one is going to be visible from Texas..." - Anonymous@19:24:02. It would be, if only it were true. The only point in North America where annularity was visible is on the Mexican coastline west of Guadalajara which was the point where the ringed sun set. You need to learn to differentiate between your various varieties of non-total eclipses, i.e. partial V. annular (rarer). In Texas you got the former, while the Pacific Ocean got to see the latter yesterday.
Glint
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 13:40:54 (EDT)

My two cents are: I'm glad you point the faux Glints out, Glint, because they are so similar to your real posts it's impossible to tell who's who. Who are you, anyway?
Blint
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 13:35:27 (EDT)

My two cents are: Nice try, faux Glint@12:40 et al.
Glint
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 13:25:13 (EDT)

My two cents are: I would be more interested, Pete�, in the whole ten-year series. I like a little variety in my viewing materials. They don't have to be Christmas shots, either. In fact, why not prance into the Xerox room right now, old pal?
Glint
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 12:40:46 (EDT)

My two cents are: We finally found a way around the Bill of Rights! As long as we claim we're "at war", we can hold people in the brig indefinitely without charging them with anything, and we can beat the shit out of them too. What a sweet deal. As long as we keep the federal judiciary's nose out of it.
General Ashcroft
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 12:38:42 (EDT)

My two cents are: Glint would you be interested in some Xeroxes I made of a ring-like annulus about 10 years ago at an office Christmas party?
Pete�
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 11:39:26 (EDT)

My two cents are: (go lunatic go)
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- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 10:26:19 (EDT)

My two cents are: JUDICIAL WATCH DEMANDS REPUBLICANS AND WHITE HOUSE CEASE AND DESIST FROM ILLEGAL, DISCRIMINATORY PRACTICES Scheme to Exclude Non-Contributors, Democrats And Third Parties From the Political Process Republicans Have Until Noon, Wednesday, June 12, 2002 To Confirm Cessation Or Strong Legal Action Will Result (Washington, DC) Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption and abuse, said today that it condemns the compilation of political dossiers by Republican Party activist Grover Norquist, and others, in order to develop a list that will effectively control access to the White House, Congress and federal agencies based on campaign contributions and other favors. Today�s Washington Post article by Jim VandeHei, entitled �GOP Monitoring Lobbyists� Politics White House: Hill Access May Be Affected,� details the workings of a scheme dubbed the �K Street Project.� The political dossiers developed under the Republican project reportedly list the party affiliations and campaign contributions of lobbyists in Washington. Mr. VandeHei�s article reports that: �Republicans involved in the effort said they plan for it to be used by White House officials, lawmakers and staff to determine who can meet with party leaders in discussions of policy matters. The idea is to alert GOP officials and staff members to Republicans who �deserve� such access and to Democrats who don't, said one lobbyist involved.� Rep. Thomas M. Davis III (Va.), chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee and Senate Republican Conference Chairman Rick Santorum (Pa.) are both reportedly aware, at a minimum, of the development of the political dossiers and access list.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 10:25:30 (EDT)

My two cents are: Raccoon attacks Michigan girl, 6, as she plays with friends... Developing
not ours.... liberal since he endorsed Hitlery
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 10:21:08 (EDT)

My two cents are: I've left so many tracks I'll never be able to erase them. My goddam birth certificate itself is a matter of public record, and it goes downhill from there. I've left cookie crumbs on every hermaphrodite website in the Phillipines. I'm doomed. I might as well start building a dirty bomb right now. Not that I know anything about bombs. Only a physicist can deal with those topics.
Glit
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 10:16:36 (EDT)

My two cents are: Cover your tracks, that's all I've got to say. According to the FBI, Padilla left "an amazing number of tracks around" and now look at the poor sap. You don't leave tracks, for crissakes. Only a rube leaves tracks nowadays.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 10:08:27 (EDT)

My two cents are: He shielded you because he didn't want you to be embarrassed standing in front of the nude statue with a noticeable bulge.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 03:15:52 (EDT)

My two cents are: Because I'm tired of the guff this Godless nation has given me. God has a plan. He doesn't raise up a man and anoint a man to occupancy of the highest law-enforcement office in the land without wanting him to kick serious butt. Why else did God save me from the calico cats all these years? Why else did God shield my eyes from the sinful pink teats of the Jezebels and the whores of Babylon? The time for your Godless guff is over America. It is time to tread the path by tophet flare to Judgement Day. Bwahahahahahahaha
General Ashcroft
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 02:04:41 (EDT)

My two cents are: Pussy liberals. This is war. Get used to it. In war, the bystander is crushed. In war, you dig a hole and keep a tight asshole. That is, unless war is not in your career plans. Just don't let me catch you standing around looking like a guy who might plot to spread radioactive cesium in our Sunday schools. We know what to do with guys like that. Especially if they're spics. Guineas. PR grease, like this Padilla. Can you spell i-n-d-e-f-i-n-i-t-e-l-y? Neither could the Founding Fathers, so don't feel too pad. And don't gimme no sass.
General Ashcroft
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 01:58:33 (EDT)

My two cents are: Padilla probably has it coming, whatever it is. Look, he changed his name and hung around Arabs. This guy was bad news. He got what he deserved, whatever it was that he got. Koresh was a man of God, a minister with good name. Weaver was a family man. Padilla was born a Christian and went over to the dark side. Fuck him, wherever he is.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 00:51:28 (EDT)

My two cents are: Easy. They're down at the laundry cleaning the shit out of their pants. Want them fresh and clean in case somebody says something about gas in the subway and the have to soil themselves again.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 00:27:23 (EDT)

My two cents are: Hmm, wonder where all the liberty-loving Republican strict constructionists went? The folks who used to worry about Randy Weaver and David Koresh?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 00:24:16 (EDT)

My two cents are: Padilla? Haven't heard much from him. They took him away thirty years ago and put him in a Navy brig somewheres down south. Never heard a peep from him since. Made me sleep better at night for thirty years, knowing the guy was disappeared.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 00:22:37 (EDT)

My two cents are: Had a dream about finding some old radioactive stuff at the dentist's office and putting it under the 50-yard line at the super bowl. Hey, it was just a DREAM! Please don't tell John Ashcroft! I understand he can put me away "indefinitely" like this guy who might have been in the discussion phases of thinking about blowing up Detroit. Padilla was the guy's name. Nobody ever learned much about him, and nobody ever will. So long, Padilla. I hope you were guilty!
nobody who's ever been near this page
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 00:20:39 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sheit, I guess I missed it. Is it over? Seems a little darker than it usually is at this time. Maybe not. Fell asleep. Fuck it.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 00:16:26 (EDT)

My two cents are: I can see it fine from where I'm viewing. Sun resembles a quarter moon.
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 22:49:40 (EDT)

My two cents are: Lots of duty free shops in Buffalo. You can buy vodka cheap. Good thing. You're going to need it.
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 22:44:47 (EDT)

My two cents are: I myself would have gone to Acupulco to see this afternoon's annular eclipse, but I'm nobody's fool and I'm holding out on the theory that there might be another one in the northeast USA. If so, it's Buffalo here I come! Make me reservations at the Ramada Airport Inn, Myrt, it's time to party!
House of Meat
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 20:49:45 (EDT)

My two cents are: Thank you, Buzz Lightyear!
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 20:02:34 (EDT)

My two cents are: If eclipses are for real, why hasn't anyone shown any telesopic photos of moon landers and martian feet on the Moon? I'll believe it when I see some scientific proof. Anyone who tried to go into space would be fried in the Van Allen belt, so the whole thing is a hoax.
Pete�
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 19:36:24 (EDT)

My two cents are: It really is sad to see people who have to relive the glorious annular eclipses from the past when a real one is going to be visible from Texas and points west in a few hours. Sometimes I wish that every eclipse was visible to everyone, everywhere, all at the same time! It's not fair that some people should get to see such an important minor astronomical event, while others have to content themselves with seening just a tiny snippet as the sun sets. Oh, but c'est la vie, I suppose. Anyone with a reasonable portfolio would be able to take the family to Acupulco for the day and see it better than even in Texas.
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 19:24:02 (EDT)

My two cents are: It always relaxes me to get to the top of Old Man Vitzum's Hill, because I know the Corvair will coast all the way to the Piggly Wiggly no matter what happens.
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 19:18:19 (EDT)

My two cents are: Well, all the rest of us were amazed that anyone would bother to look up, much less trundle the whole family to, I'm not making this up, Buffalo, to see a lousy annular eclipse. Backwater one-horse states like Texas get those all the time and don't even blink. Here in Maryland it's total or forget about it.
Percival
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 19:15:43 (EDT)

My two cents are: You see, on a clear day a solar filter would have been effective. But whether that filter was on a telescope or a simple pair of eclipse sunglasses, the only thing that you could see through them was the eclipsed sun. Thanks to the haze, it was able to use regular sunglasses. Through these one was able to view not only the golden ring of light suspende in the sky, but one could also view the habits of the local wildlife. We spent a several days in Toronto, Niagra Falls, and Buffalo. The centerline crossed over the airport at Buffalo, so we rented a room at the Ramada. Entered the zone of the path of totality several days before the eclipse was very relaxing. For I knew that if the Voyager were to break down inside of or anwhere between those cities, we would still be able to see the eclipse.
glint
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 19:13:57 (EDT)

My two cents are: The best view I've had of the sun's ring-like annulus during a (what else?) annular eclipse was up in buffalo in the mid-90's. The haze was thick enough to render the sun invisible through a telescope equipped with a solar filter that blocked out 99.999% of the radiation. Same thing with mylar "eclipse glasses." However, regular sunglasses provided the entire family with a comfortable view of the silvery-gold annulus. Along with the peripheral vision it was amazing to realize that even with such an exquisite sight in the sky, people continued their daily routines, like hamsters in their respective wheels. A person pushed a manual lawn mower there. Over there a person hurried up the walk, unlocked their front door and disappeared inside. Traffic flowed without change. It was simply amazing!
Glint
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 19:04:53 (EDT)

My two cents are: We'll be careful. Oh for some haze!
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 18:55:51 (EDT)

My two cents are: The Carroll County Times once quoted a local astronomer as follows, "...As you may have heard extreme caution must be used when viewing the Sun, even when partially eclipsed. The only time it is safe to view the sun without filtration is when an eclipse is total AND you are viewing it from within the narrow path of totality where 100% of the Sun's bright photosphere is being blocked by the Moon. There is no place on Earth where a total eclipse can be viewed on December 14 [or June 10 for that matter]. A pin-hole projector is the safest method of viewing. Plans for a safe "Solar Eclipse Theatre" may be found on the [REDACTED] web site by clicking on the link near the bottom of the main page. A plate of density #14 welding glass is also safe for naked eye solar viewing. Just hold the welding glass in front of the eyes. But do not try staring into a telescope or binoculars using this method! The concentrated heat from the magnified image of the sun could cause the glass to shatter. When the sun is low in the sky near sunset it is viewed through a thicker layer of atmosphere than when it is high in the sky. Thus the atmosphere acts as a natural attenuator by weakening the Sun's light at sunset. This dimming effect makes it easier to glance at the sun without filtration. According to Sky & Telescope magazine's December issue, 'Glancing at a deeply dimmed and reddened Sun at sunset is not unsafe, but staring at it or viewing it with unfiltered optical aid should be avoided.'..."
Glint
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 18:51:23 (EDT)

My two cents are: Even if you can see it in Maryland through the haze, afterward you're still in fucking Maryland.
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 18:50:37 (EDT)

My two cents are: I'm not missing a thing. No, not me. I'm happy just sitting here stroking my dachshund. Who cares about some old annular e-clipse anyway? Sob.
Gloot
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 18:48:47 (EDT)

My two cents are: Perfect weather here. We'll tell you about it, Glomp.
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 18:47:47 (EDT)

My two cents are: From the illustration at http://skyandtelescope.com/mm_images/3036.jpg the "eclipse begins at sunset" line runs smack dab over the observatory. I'll take it as a challenge to hobble up the hill, throw open the shutters, pop a solar filter on the scope, and see if I can catch the slightest notch as it slips beneath the horizon. It's hazy but clear this afternoon.
Glint
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 18:37:44 (EDT)

My two cents are: Here's the scoop: http://skyandtelescope.com/observing/objects/eclipses/article_580_1.asp As you can see, the eclipse begins at sunset in Maryland.
Glint
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 18:33:50 (EDT)

My two cents are: You.
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 18:31:29 (EDT)

My two cents are: Yes, our last chance (in Maryland) to see a partial solar eclipse was last December 14. That one set during mid-eclipse - a photographic treat for anyone with an FTb. Would have been great except for the clouds. I was watching from the 5th floor but it never broke though. Now, there's this one coming up. Texas is far from the central path, which is any case is simply an annular eclipse - not a total anywhere in the world. So, who's missing a thing?
Glint
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 18:30:06 (EDT)

My two cents are: I'm looking forward to it as I gaze westward across the deep, dark Pacific ocean 'neath cloudless sky.
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 18:24:16 (EDT)

My two cents are: As I understand it, this eclipse is going to look great from Texas, but will be over the horizon for Maryland. Gnlot's arch-enemy will therefore be in a position to sip the delights, while the poor schlumpf himself will just have to stew and wonder and content himself with thinking about some chump asteroidal occlusion. Why is it that the Lord has handed this sack of shit to Glunt? What has he done wrong, besides follow false prophets?? The boys from Cali will also get to witness the event, if they should happen to glace up, under Cali's famously cloudless springtime skies. A bitter brew. A bitter, bitter brew.
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 18:17:21 (EDT)

My two cents are: More babble. Poor, pathetic, self-indulgent prick.
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 18:00:03 (EDT)

My two cents are: She was just his ovaries talking
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 17:49:21 (EDT)

My two cents are: Hum knew Grace, so to speak (ahem)
Pete�
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 17:41:12 (EDT)

My two cents are: Halliburton's two biggest problems began on Cheney's watch: The SEC is opening a preliminary investigation into accounting changes by Halliburton's engineering and construction division while Cheney was in charge. In 1998, the company began counting some of the cost overruns at construction projects as revenue, even though the company was still negotiating with customers to pay the charges. It did not disclose the change until the following year. Also in 1998, Halliburton reported revenue of $17 billion, of which about $100 million came from unsettled claims. Had the company taken the most conservative accounting approach by writing off the claims as losses, more than half of its fourth-quarter operating profits would have been wiped out. The practice was approved by the company's auditor, Arthur Andersen, which is now on trial in Houston for alleged obstruction of justice in the Enron collapse. It's unclear whether Cheney specifically approved the accounting change. "We don't put anything on the books that we don't think we're going to collect on," company spokeswoman Wendy Hall says. Cheney's biggest corporate triumph, the $7.7 billion purchase of chief rival Dresser Industries in 1998, could also tarnish his legacy. Halliburton stock has fallen sharply as the company fights multimillion-dollar lawsuits against a former Dresser subsidiary, Harbison-Walker Refractories of Pittsburgh, over workers' exposure to asbestos. Halliburton shares sold for $20.75 when Cheney became CEO and $53.02 when he stepped down. The stock closed Friday at $17.68. "I never understood why they did that," Dallas attorney John Wall says about the Dresser acquisition. "They overpaid for Dresser, and all they did was buy a bunch of liabilities."
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 17:29:24 (EDT)

My two cents are: Grace was a figment of Pete's imagination. At least that's the story I heard.
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 17:23:48 (EDT)

My two cents are: I got your evidence right here!
End of the Story
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 17:05:17 (EDT)

My two cents are: I demand evidence!
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 16:29:18 (EDT)

My two cents are: ....dangling from her scrote.
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 16:26:31 (EDT)

My two cents are: Just found out Teresa was born with a pair of ovaries.
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 16:20:33 (EDT)

My two cents are: Grace was a figment. As was Dexter. Teresa was and is the real thing. Ted, I'm not so sure about ...
Pete�
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 16:08:43 (EDT)

My two cents are: Speaking of dirt naps, did that aides patient Grace Naturlio used to visit each week ever croak?
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 15:59:51 (EDT)

My two cents are: Doink

- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 15:57:12 (EDT)

My two cents are: Gotti's voice-activated mike will forever more be silent...
Rot In Peace
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 15:51:00 (EDT)

My two cents are: Gotti dead. OK.
Pete�
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 15:30:36 (EDT)

My two cents are: ???
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- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 15:20:36 (EDT)

My two cents are: Another reason to go liberal, I presume.
Pete�
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 15:14:39 (EDT)

My two cents are: The pinkos will always go for the nip-shot. Your conservative, on the other hand, will always prefer the plum wine.
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 15:08:20 (EDT)

My two cents are: Over there in Makkah, the government is off the backs of the people-- no cologne inspection. In the USA, we know when we drink Aqua Velva that we're drinking uncontaminated methanol, but we have to support this huge government bureaucracy to do it. Maybe it's time to let the Lord take vengence on the sinners, and stop trying to nanny everybody.
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 15:06:13 (EDT)

My two cents are: PRAGUE (Reuters) - Czech voters are having to make some hard election choices -- should they support the party offering free alcohol or the one using topless women in its campaign? With the Christian Democrats handing out free shots of plum brandy in the Moravian town of Valasske Mezirici during a weekend election rally, the Communist party had to quickly change its strategy for a meeting in the same town square. Soon the party had five topless women handing out campaign literature, forcing people to decide between a free shot and a free peek. "This is something completely new. And it's nice," the daily Pravo quoted one eyewitness as saying. The paper did not say which party the man would vote for. The centrist Christian Democrats have teamed up with the center-right Freedom Union to form the Coalition in the June 14-15 general election. They are currently polling at around 15 percent. The communists are slightly ahead of the Coalition in the polls, running at around 18 perce
good choice pinkos, bill'd be proud
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 15:02:23 (EDT)

My two cents are: "But what about the little guy?"
Typical Liberal Stooge
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 15:02:01 (EDT)

My two cents are: Who said a Republican administration* would hurt the economy? It certainly hasn't hurt El Paso Corporation's Thomas McDade.
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 15:01:16 (EDT)

My two cents are: "Cologne drinking toll rises to 11" JEDDAH, 10 June - Two more people died on Saturday, taking the death toll from the contaminated cologne consumption in Makkah to 11, Okaz reported yesterday. At least 22 others are receiving treatment in several hospitals in the city. Laboratory tests on blood samples from the dead indicate that their deaths were caused by methanol. Dr. Ahmad Ilyas, director of the laboratory, said he informed the hospitals in Makkah to administer ethanol to counteract the methanol poison. Meanwhile, three people died and nine others became seriously ill in Jizan after consuming cologne.
your daily belly laugh!
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 14:59:29 (EDT)

My two cents are: El Paso Corp. Board Member Adds Shares in Late-May June 10, 2002 Director Thomas McDade bought 5,000 EP shares on May 31 at $25.55 apiece. Mr. McDade made the most recent prior insider purchase at El Paso Corp. one year earlier when the stock traded considerably higher at the $59-level. That transaction and his most recent addition (cost: $127,750) represent the largest and second largest executive acquisitions at the firm to date. EP shares were already down about 60% from their year-ago level when Mr. McDade traded. The stock�s price subsequently established a six-year low of $19.30 on June 3, falling 16% that day alone on news of the apparent suicide of El Paso corporate treasurer Charles Rice. Houston, Texas-based El Paso Corp. is a producer and market of natural gas, electricity, and other commodities. It also operates the largest gas pipeline system in the U.S.
this just in
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 14:52:38 (EDT)

My two cents are: The letter he showed to the Associated Press read: "Dear Mullah Khaksar: We would very much like to help overthrow the existing leadership of Afghanistan and install you as supreme dictator, based on the theory that you will then crush Al Quaida. We recommended this course of action to President Clinton, but he said you sounded like a small-time con man who couldn't even fool someone dumb enough to think that Woodrow Wilson started World War I. Respectfully, the two unfortunate geeks who interviewed you."
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- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 14:51:07 (EDT)

My two cents are: Trial, my ass! This guy, Padilla, is perfect for a secret tribunal. All the better!
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 14:50:22 (EDT)

My two cents are: The American Spectator is returning to Washington, nearly two years after technology guru George Gilder bought it, moved it to Massachusetts and turned it into a for-profit, high-tech-and-economics monthly all but drained of politics. Now, unable to make money, Gilder is giving the conservative magazine back to its old nonprofit foundation, where founder R. Emmett Tyrrell and longtime managing editor Wlady Pleszczynski will relaunch the venture.
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- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 14:48:12 (EDT)

My two cents are: We've got to lock Parillo up and throw away the key! We'll put him on trial as soon as our witness grows his fingernails back.
John Ashcroft, cat fancier
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 14:45:37 (EDT)

My two cents are: It was unclear whether Khaksar's overture was relayed to the highest levels of the Clinton administration. Nor is it clear whether the United States lost a chance to neutralize bin Laden and the Taliban before Sept. 11.
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 14:45:24 (EDT)

My two cents are: Why disown it now, Pete? It was one of your more cogent statements.
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 14:42:18 (EDT)

My two cents are: Guess now that they've caught Parillo, they can crank the color back down to yellow.
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 14:40:09 (EDT)

My two cents are: Pete� - Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 20:35:30 was an imposter. Of course. Loitering liberals. Doink.
Pete�
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 14:38:44 (EDT)

My two cents are: "The alleged plot was not believed to have passed the early planning stages."............... Thank God Ashcroft was on the job! Without him, the alleged plot might have gone right into the middle planning stages! And, who knows, maybe even the later planning stages!! What a close call! We've got to keep Snippy in office and hold on to this maestro of anti-terrorism!
greatful citizen, almost blown up
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 14:37:16 (EDT)

My two cents are: "Ex-Taliban official says he asked U.S. to help in '99" The Associated Press, Posted June 10, 2002 - KABUL, Afghanistan -- A senior Taliban official said he approached U.S. representatives three years ago for help in replacing the hard-line Islamic leadership but was told Washington was leery of becoming involved in internal Afghan politics, the former official said Sunday. Mullah Mohammed Khaksar, a former Taliban intelligence chief and later Afghan deputy interior minister, said he met with U.S. diplomats Gregory Marchese and J. Peter McIllwain in Peshawar, Pakistan, in April 1999 and told them he wanted to oust Taliban supreme leader Mullah Mohammed Omar because of his support for Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda terrorist network. The two Americans promised to contact Washington, Khaksar said. Later, he received a letter -- which he showed to The Associated Press -- from Marchese saying the United States was nervous about backing Afghan factions because of its experience supporting hard-line Islamic movements during the war against the Soviets. .... It was unclear whether Khaksar's overture was relayed to the highest levels of the Clinton administration. Nor is it clear whether the United States lost a chance to neutralize bin Laden and the Taliban before Sept. 11.
Where was Clinton? <curled up next to the switch, of course>
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 14:37:12 (EDT)

My two cents are: Apparently, the Mexican got ratted out by some A-rab we're tortuing. Kudos, my Attorney General!
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 14:33:07 (EDT)

My two cents are: Well done, Mr. Ashcroft! This will be right up there with trying to hang the fram on Lindh, busting the 'Frisco dope club, arresting the Oregon doctor, and draping the tits of the statue of justice. Well, well done!
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 14:29:50 (EDT)

My two cents are: Did he give a speech saying that every time Parillo had a chance to turn away from blowing up Tupelo he never took that fork, which proves that he intended to blow up Tupelo even though we have no evidence that he intended to blow up Tupelo and no evidence that the guy ever had access to any dirty bomb fixings?
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 14:27:58 (EDT)

My two cents are: The guy's name was Jose Parillo, and he was pulled off the customs line after a flight from Paki. How much does someone want to bet that there was no "dirty bomb" in his on-board bag? Glump, the thing to do here is to sit back and wait before racing out to get burned again handing medals to this chump, Ashcroft. Just from the headlines, this character has all the earmarks of a guy who sent an e-mail to his mother saying he'd like to irradiate Tupelo with a dirty bomb, if he had one, but who doesn't have the wherewithall to blow up a cat with a cherry bomb.
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- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 14:24:10 (EDT)

My two cents are: Oh, that's way so much better than anything Clinton ever did. No comparison between stopping a dirty nuke and keeping an old space needle from getting bent over.
Kudos John Ashcroft!
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 14:20:42 (EDT)

My two cents are: Right. They always turn up with some bizarre story about "extra ovaries" to justify their criminal sinfulness. Where in the Bible does it say that being "born with ovaries" justifies someone designated to be a boy to become a girl? Behold the lilies of the field? He was designated a boy at the maternity ward, and he should gut it out as a boy. Rush Limbaugh would do no less, except if he had a supperation somewhere near his asshole.
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- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 14:20:09 (EDT)

My two cents are: WASHINGTON -- The U.S. government has arrested an alleged al Qaida terrorist who plotted to build and detonate a radiological "dirty" bomb, Attorney General John Ashcroft said Monday.
job well done, mr. ashcroft
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 14:17:29 (EDT)

My two cents are: Look, Brandon/Brenda made a lifestyle choice and that's all we need to know. All talk about gonads has absolutely no bearing on anything. The sick, little pervert baits us daily!
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 13:44:13 (EDT)

My two cents are: Ov@r13s? Check. Enlarged cl1t or micro p3n15? TBD.
d1tch w33d
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 13:25:32 (EDT)

My two cents are: You may well have pledged 4,000 hours (two years at the socialist-inspired 8-hour day with weekends off) to indent a permanent crease in your Relax-O-Kushin�, and maybe Donald Trump pledged the same time rolling in his money to get the economy moving. Not good enough, Jim, you know as well as the rest of us that the Snip meant real hair-shirt service, bedpans or drainage trenches or forest thinning or maybe even military nursing. Keep making discoveries about what the the neighbor children were or weren't born with and you will soon graduate from criminal pervert to gutter degenerate.
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- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 13:18:30 (EDT)

My two cents are: Found out something I hadn't known before. Brandon was born with a pair of ovaries.
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 13:04:13 (EDT)

My two cents are: "And I always at least thought Glint was American, until I started having doubts when he refused to step up for his 4,000 hours for Snippy." - Anonymous. You cut me to the quick. As I explained previously, I have pledge 4,000 (2 years) to help get the economy turned around. Same war, different front. Not like I haven't suffered what with the 40% reduction in transbubble income. Also putting up with the attacks at home we are. The forced snooding of the rolling tractor driver and serruptitious voice activated microphones secretly implanted in the vehicles. Still, on we roll. <> Ydog, sorry we've lost touch with each other. So, did you ever buy a house when you were in the market? If so, which one did you get? Maybe the one with the columns which looked like a miniature southern mansion? Perhaps you could build a slat dog house out back for Oafus II. Isn't he black after all? What color snood are you getting, white with tapered top?
Glint
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 13:03:26 (EDT)

My two cents are: At least he wasn't queer, like his old man.
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 12:21:11 (EDT)

My two cents are: What do you expect of a poor sap who didn't even win the popular vote, scammed the polling in Florida, and presided, with his thumb up his ass, over the worst avertable disaster in American history. A bandy-legged, alcoholic, Republican ex-cheerleader. What could anyone have expected?
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- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 11:50:00 (EDT)

My two cents are: It's inevitable that Snippy drop in the polls. This guy is a Bush, after all. The only question is how far below 40 he comes in.
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 11:45:47 (EDT)

My two cents are: "Godless communism." Of course. I had forgotten. Argggh. It was, however, deeply satisfying to read a recent op-ed page that contained two, count them, two different articles referring to J. Edgar and his pink tulle tutuistics. Sigh. Wish he were here, that ole pinhead-firer.
Faux E�
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 11:44:51 (EDT)

My two cents are: When are the right-wingers going to come on and explain that Gallup asks too many Dimbocraps and polls don't mean jack shit anyway?
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 11:42:56 (EDT)

My two cents are: Well, of course it probably doesn't hurt to dredge it up, but doesn't everyone know that Ronald Reagan was a shithead and a liar and a punk fascist from the start? Never did understand why so many Americans took the monkey act at face value, when the man was just a nasty, pin-headed, prune-hearted shit-heel. A really lousy governor who didn't achieve a single thing he thought in his addled brain that he wanted to achieve, except speak well to the mid-western and southern yahoos that were flooding into California for God knows what, they were tired of blizzards or it was the cheese, but here they came, hundreds and thousands of them from Omaha and Sioux Falls and Texarkana, every one of them as ignorant and small-minded as Ron and Nancy and many of them just as stupid. Of course the asshole invited J. Egar "High Heels" Hoover to snoop on people who didn't have the pickled brains of a small mid-western life. J. Edgar Hoover was like a fucking God to right-wingers, he was a shining tubular paragon, the fat blue line between us and Godless Communism.... and he knew what evil lurks in the hearts of men because he dressed up in basic black and pearls and four-inch heels and pranced in front of the mirror, and spent half his time at the track with his long-time second in command and personal friend, Lips Lockhardt. Reagan, Hoover, McCarthy... they're all the same pile of shit that led to whoever is putting the words in Pete's mouth today when he ignorantly spouts about war, this is war, the pathetic, ignorant numb-nuts. Ronald Reagan, man. Don't get me started.
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- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 02:55:39 (EDT)

My two cents are: Whew... that sounded too coherent for Snippy. He's just saying that there are things we don't even know we don't know, and some things we know we don't know, which is at least a start. Get it? Rumsfeld, sure, he's a Republican, and a beast of the swamp he inhabits, and is therefore bound to make bad moves. But it seems to me he's interested in giving it a straight shot, and not just in government to line his pockets and his friends' pockets if there's anything left over, the way most of the other Snippistas are.
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- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 02:43:54 (EDT)

My two cents are: "The message is that there are no knowns. There are things that we know that we know. There are known unknowns; that is to say, there are things we now know, we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns--things we do not know we don't know. So when we do the best we can and we pull all this information together, and we then say, 'Well, that's basically what we see as the situation,' that is really only the known knowns and the known unknowns. And each year we discover a few more of those unknown unknowns".
Rummyspeak
- Monday, June 10, 2002 at 00:25:23 (EDT)

My two cents are: There really ought to be limits to stupidity.
Average Joe, speaking about Bush the Unelected
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 23:57:49 (EDT)

My two cents are: December 18, 2000 CNN.com: "I told all four that there are going to be some times where we don't agree with each other, but that's OK. If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator," Bush joked. July 27, 2001 Associated Press: "A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, there's no question about it, " [Bush] said.
"there ought to be limits to freedom"
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 22:21:17 (EDT)

My two cents are: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20020609/ap_on_re_us/california_fbi_1 The FBI ,working covertly with the CIA and then-Gov. Ronald Reagan , spent years unlawfully trying to quash the voices and careers of students and faculty deemed subversive at the University of California, the San Francisco Chronicle reported. For years the FBI denied engaging in such activities at the university. But a 17-year legal challenge brought by a Chronicle reporter under the Freedom of Information Act forced the agency to release more than 200,000 pages of confidential records covering the 1940s to the 1970s, the newspaper reported in a special section for its Sunday editions. Those documents describe the sweeping nature of the FBI's activities and show they ranged far beyond the campus and into state politics as the agency plotted to end the career of UC President Clark Kerr while aiding Reagan's political career. Only after federal judges repeatedly ruled that the FBI had drifted unlawfully from intelligence gathering into politics - and the case was about to be heard by the Supreme Court - did the FBI settle, removing much of the blacked-out material in the files. In its unsuccessful battle to keep them secret, the agency had said its actions had been proper - that it had merely tried to protect civil order and national security during a time when the nation feared Communism and waged war in Vietnam. "Things are done a lot differently today," FBI spokesman Bill Carter told the Chronicle. "The files speak for themselves." The broad outlines of the illegal FBI campaigns became public in the 1970s as Congress held hearings that showed the FBI and CIA had disrupted the lives of law-abiding citizens and organizations engaging in legitimate dissent. The documents obtained by the Chronicle show just how extensive these activities were in California, how Kerr and others were targeted, and how eagerly Reagan worked to quash protests. Gov. Reagan intended to mount a "psychological warfare campaign" against subversives, file tax evasion and other charges against them, and do anything else it could to restore moral order, Herbert Ellingwood, Reagan's legal affairs secretary, told the FBI in a request for confidential information about people on campus. The records show FBI director J. Edgar Hoover agreed to provide such information from the agency's files. "This has been done in the past," the director said, "and has worked quite successfully." The Office of Ronald Reagan referred the Chronicle's questions to Edwin Meese III, Reagan's chief of staff as governor. Meese said the FBI, as far as he knew, gave Reagan no special political help, and that he did not remember planning any activities against "subversives."
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 22:10:35 (EDT)

My two cents are: "In 1989, I was teaching in University during the student demonstrations. We gathered together with young people to express dissatisfaction with the government. We didn't feel like a distinct club, or group, or anything at that time, we were just some young people who had dreams for their lives and who were not happy with the existing regime. The demonstrations expanded to different regions and attracted lots of support from workers, even small business people. We stopped teaching and our students walked in the streets protesting. We went with them and sometimes we would lead them. After the third of June, the early morning of the fourth of June, the government suppressed the protests with the help of tanks and machine guns. After they got control of the event they chose people to set up as examples to be punished, as a warning to others. It is what they call 'To settle the account after the autumn harvest', (from an old Chinese saying). The young teachers were to be sent to one year re-education camps. I refused the order to go to the re-education camp and the university used me as an example, so I was expelled from the teaching job. In that society expulsion is very damaging. They keep a file on all of your movements and that file follows you everywhere you go, all your life. I felt all the warning signals: systematic interference from officials; discrimination; restraint of freedom; my mail was checked and my phone messages recorded. I looked for work outside of the government system, private business or foreign business, or even contract work, which in China is very insecure as only about 5% of people in China at that time didn't have permanent work. I was scared about my future and my security. I thought, 'Do not die here, find a new land to lead a dignified, simple and honest life. I was not born as a free man but I can hope to die as one - a free soul.' I started to plan to get away. From 1989 to 1995, I looked for ways to leave. In 1995, I had finally found a job and was touring Australia as part of my work. My superiors reported back to China that I was too liberal in my mind, by their standards, and expressed too much personal opinion. They ordered me to surrender my passport. I knew the implications - it's like a detention order. " http://www.brisbane-stories.webcentral.com.au/scatteredpeople/02_stories/01_aaron.htm
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 21:53:51 (EDT)

My two cents are: Just goes to show that if you say you're going to smoke a guy out of his hole, but all that comes out is a draggle-ass young nut from Larkspur, people are going to start thinking you're like the Texan with the great big belt buckle and the little bitty peter. Invading Iraq for no justifiable reason is wagging a pretty big dog. I hope Cheney has a back-up plan better than keeling over dead with a myocardial infarction.
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- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 21:53:00 (EDT)

My two cents are: That's strange about the poll numbers coming down like that. Saw Tony Blankley and some other fools on a food-fight show Friday night, and he said Bush's numbers had held solid, which proved that he had made all the right moves. Guess dropping seven proves that he fucked up, then. He drops much lower, he's going to have to get himself caught on the high end of a blow-job to win back the respect of the American people.
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- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 21:48:44 (EDT)

My two cents are: Well, I'm liberal, and I find I am physically intimidated quite enough by Ann Coulter's face on her new book cover. Looks like one of those dinosaurs that lived in the swamp and stuck its face underwater to suck up muck. Diplodochus? Something like that. Weird when a human being has a face so much like one animal or another, the way Winston Churchill looked like a bulldog or Snippy looks like a Western Fence Lizard. If anyone knows what the name of that muck-sucking dinosaur is, please post it.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 21:43:39 (EDT)

My two cents are: "We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals." Ann Coulter,
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 21:34:36 (EDT)

My two cents are: "Don't kill all the liberals - leave a few around so we remember what they were like." Rush Limbaugh
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 21:18:34 (EDT)

My two cents are: If they had started shooting liberal traitors when it was only 5%, it wouldn't be 15% today.
Pete�
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 20:35:30 (EDT)

My two cents are: PRINCETON, NJ -- Americans are becoming less convinced that the United States and its allies are winning the war on terrorism, with the percentage of the public perceiving U.S. success on this front dropping to 41% in May, down from 47% in April and a high of 66% in January. Public confidence was highest in December and January, after Taliban forces were defeated on December 7 at their last major stronghold in Afghanistan. But since this victory for "Operation Enduring Freedom," the target in the war on terrorism has become less well-defined, and success more difficult to assess. The acceleration of government warnings about potential attacks in the United States may partly explain Americans' deteriorating confidence in the success of the anti-terror mission. Few Americans believe that the terrorists are winning the war on terrorism; rather, most of those not seeing U.S. dominance say that "neither side" is winning. Still, the percentage saying the terrorists are winning has slowly crept up, from 5% in December to 15% today. The latest CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll was conducted May 28-29.
when is Cheney going to let Bush wag the dog again?
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 20:32:25 (EDT)

My two cents are: Cars are mondo bizarro, in many ways. My 1963 Corvair, for example, was, empirically judged, a much better car than my '63 Volvo. And yet people would come up to me while I was working on the Volvo, trying to keep it clanking along, bolting the parts back on that had dropped off on the Bay Bridge, and tell me how much better it was than an American car. I think it was those ads that Volvo used to run, saying that 80 percent of all Volvos were still on the road after 9 years. Forgot to mention that 97 percent of all model T's had still been on the road after 15 years. Like Zerk's idea that the BMW's last longer because they tach them down. Never occured to me, that a motor would break down as a function of how many times it's turned over. It makes sense until you think about it for a few seconds, though.
Huemberto Diversaloba Do Sergipe
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 20:23:59 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 20:23:11 (EDT)

My two cents are: I hope people aren't going to get all excited and post reams of gloating tripe every time Bush drops five or six points in the polls. He's got a long way to go, you know. Why don't you folks save it and we'll have a wake for the poor bandy-legged little guy when he cracks 30.
House of Meat
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 20:15:33 (EDT)

My two cents are: Camero a thing of the past. Glompt can't drive around in something disconfuckingtinued. Something that no longer has the support of the great American dorkoisie. Do they have cars in the Sharper Image catalogue? Maybe just for backdrop in the radar detector ads? Do they have cars besides BMW or Audi, that is, cars that buying one is not equivalent to buying a lampshade made in Auschwitz? This is assuming that Audi is a Kraut car-- I've never paid attention.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 20:13:42 (EDT)

My two cents are: http://insightmag.com/news/254303.html
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 19:54:12 (EDT)

My two cents are: GALLUP: BUSH APPROVAL RATING IN TAILSPIN Plummets 7 points in one week! Now stands at 4 points lower than President Clinton's the day after "impeachment"
How stupid IS too stupid?
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 18:56:32 (EDT)

My two cents are: When I was attending Montgomery Junior College at the Rockville Pike Campus I dated a girl whose father had bought her a Volkswagon. He'd gotten her the station wagon version of the 72 beetle, used. Wasn't a guy in the biology 101 class that didn't lay her out in the back of that ride with the rear seats down or up!
zerk
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 17:42:48 (EDT)

My two cents are: So Glunt, I'm thinking the 3.8 camaro may be the car you need. Dont think you could handle a zx2. Shouod be cheap enough, plenty on the used markey and the girls will like it, you can commute in the automatic. beter resale and looks than the weird assed grand am.
zerk
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 17:38:10 (EDT)

My two cents are: akronts were aluminum. bead lip on the inside of the rim hence the self-cleaning. Shame they never made gutters.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 17:33:32 (EDT)

My two cents are: wxed out the aluminum rims this afternoon. Have a nasty lip that catches the brake dust. The bultaco came stock with what were called Akront Mudless rims. Rims had no lip at the outer edge hence no cloggy build-up and were even touted as "self-cleaning" since they got a steep angle from the spokes to the outer edge. speed would self-clean most of the globs off. The jap bikes of the era had steel rims with big fat lips at the sidewall edge capable of holding 40-50 pounds of potting soil each. Talk abut your unsprung weight!!!!
zerk
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 17:31:12 (EDT)

My two cents are: What must one understand about Saddam Hussein and Saddam Hussein's Iraq, even before entering the debate on how we should deal with Iraq? Well, about Saddam Hussein, the essential point is that he's a thug who has been willing to murder some of the people closest to him, who has used chemical weapons against his own people, who has invaded his neighbors. He is probably the most dangerous individual in the world today. Capable of? Capable of anything. Capable of using weapons of mass destruction against the United States, capable of launching other military maneuvers as soon as he thinks he can get away with it. You have stated in the past that this is not a fringe issue. What do you mean by that? "The question of Saddam Hussein is at the very core of the war against terrorism. There can be no victory in the war against terrorism if, at the end of it, Saddam Hussein is still in power." Richard Perle
what about osama?
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 17:26:36 (EDT)

My two cents are: Pete can't talk about cars, or about england. Probably never driven a Morris Garage product or been anywhere near Chipping Edgeworth or Bristol. Someone probably a ski bunny shit in his snood.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 17:25:16 (EDT)

My two cents are: Scored some outrageous floormats for the zx2 today, a near matching red in a heavy rubber that say XR Racing in big letters. They are red and black which matches the exterior red and interior charcoal. Need a red shift boot to complete the look. heavy gauge rubber, nice. rang up 10 bucks under the sticker at autozone as well.
zerk
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 17:23:14 (EDT)

My two cents are: I mean losing 3000 troops - someone's got to pay, do you see?
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 17:20:05 (EDT)

My two cents are: 11:09 you got it. The american car thing, didnt really realize I was doing it until this pm out waxing the alum rims on the zx2. Then it dawned on me how freaking american it was. the whole car thing. Pete missed the boat as usual, like we've alwys surmised, he's not really "american". I remeber Ray C. noting that as well.
zerk
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 17:19:10 (EDT)

My two cents are: Maybe since 3000 americans died in the WTC disaster we should do something to Bush, like we did to Clinton for getting his dick sucked. Maybe we could sort of Courts Martial Bush for sleeping at the switch while 3000 americans died. I mean he was Commander in Chief at the Time, was he knot???? Cheney cut the funding for terrorism agents, Cheney stopped running the surveillence drone, They both agreed this bin laden shit was something Klintoon that deserved to be ignored. That is the definition of deriliction isn't it? I mean when you blow off the military warnings so you can line your own pockets with Caspian sea pipeline dollars from the saudi's???? Do you folks understand this????
borg 13 of 22
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 17:14:29 (EDT)

My two cents are: Nice to see you guys taking bait for wild goose chases. Ha!
Pete�
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 17:02:55 (EDT)

My two cents are: Only if you think of him as part of the human race.
Whelp Greenlee
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 16:49:32 (EDT)

My two cents are: Isn't Pete embarassing?
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 16:48:50 (EDT)

My two cents are: It's pretty obvious to me and Pete� that Saddam Hussein snuck over to the old Soviet base in Uzbekistan and salted nerve gas around to kill US troops. This is the smoking gun, folks, this is Remember the Maine all over again, and it's time to roll.
Get Some�
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 16:48:09 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 16:43:14 (EDT)

My two cents are: http://starbulletin.com/2002/06/08/news/index4.html
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 16:42:53 (EDT)

My two cents are: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/asia-pacific/newsid_2034000/2034163.stm
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 16:36:11 (EDT)

My two cents are: I would gladly re-enlist to help attack Baghdad and calm the pineapple's hysteria. But only if he promises that once we take out Saddam he will start shitting in the toilet again instead of in his pants. It's starting to stink up the old web-site.
Whelp Greenlee
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 16:22:54 (EDT)

My two cents are: Was somebody sucking nerve gas on subways? Hey, this is as bad as when them Spaniards sunk our Battleship down in Havana and we had to kick their ass! And these pussy liberal Joint Chiefs of Staff! How many times does Dick "War Wasn't in my Career Plans" Cheney have to tell those chicken-shits that it is WAR? How many times does the pineapple have to let it be known that it is WAR? Come on, you slackers, get off your duffs and hit that evil bastard in Baghdad. It's either that or suck nerve gas! Let's Roll!
Get Some�
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 16:20:12 (EDT)

My two cents are: I like that link to the Post down there, which seems to be about how Cheney was studying deeply into anti-terrorism back in the day, was planning to reorganize the government way back when, right from the start. This Rove is a pretty incredible fellow, flinging the old cowflop to far and wide. Just amazing.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 16:14:33 (EDT)

My two cents are: Typical liberal pussy foot. Look, it is WAR. Get used to it. It is us or them or do you like to suck nerve gas in the subways. Sooner or later, the Crusades will be re-ignited and it will be all out war. Buckle up.
Pete�
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 15:58:51 (EDT)

My two cents are: Vice-president Dick Cheney has signalled the Bush administration's renewed determination to take military action against Iraq despite the reservations of Pentagon generals over the likely scale of casualties. He said: "In the case of Saddam Hussein, we have a dictator who is clearly pursuing these deadly capabilities. Saddam has also shown that he's willing to use weapons of mass destruction. "A regime that hates America and everything we stand for must never be permitted to threaten America with weapons of mass destruction." The tough speech came after his aides were said to have been angered by recent co-ordinated leaks from the six joint chiefs of staff warning against "Iraq hysteria". The military jitters followed a White House briefing by Gen Tommy Franks, head of the US Southern Command, which covers the Middle East, in which he said toppling Saddam would require 200,000 troops and result in terrible casualties. But Mr Cheney used an address to America's National Association of Homebuilders to indicate that the Bush administration was firmly committed to using armed force to overthrow the Iraqi leader. Emphasising that "wars are not won on the defensive", he said: "We must take the battle to the enemy and, where necessary, pre-empt grave threats to our country before they materialise." He continued: "This gathering danger requires the most careful, deliberate and decisive response by America and our allies." His comments seemed to show that the views of Mr Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, the defence secretary, and his deputy, Paul Wolfowitz, were prevailing over the more cautious counsel of Colin Powell, the secretary of state, and Pentagon generals. Mr Cheney's words on Thursday were described by one defence official as "the settled position of the Bush administration" rather than evidence of a split or an attempt to strike back against the generals. "Generals are paid to warn of heavy casualties and are understandably cautious about committing their forces to military action," said the official, who dismissed suggestions of a "revolt" by the generals. "That does not mean they are not fully behind the president as the war on terrorism is widened. Since September 11 we have all learned that the cost of preventing civilian loss of life in America will inevitably be military casualties." He added that Gen Powell had been reluctant to go to war against Saddam after Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1990, but "the military followed the orders of the president's father and victory was achieved". Mr Cheney's speech was significant because it specifically named Saddam as a serious danger to America. President Bush had used the phrase "take the battle to the enemy" in an important speech to cadets at West Point last Saturday but did not mention Saddam by name. In a prime-time television address on Thursday night announcing a reorganisation of "homeland security", Mr Bush sought to steel the country for difficult times ahead in the "titanic struggle against terror" as well as reassuring people that progress was being made.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 15:55:42 (EDT)

My two cents are: By Chris Matthews WASHINGTON -- President Bush wants to change the Department of Defense back into the War Department. No longer are the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines to defend America and America's vital interests. In his speech at West Point last weekend, he showcased a war agenda that included fighting for "human liberty" against "terrorists and tyrants," and for "free and open societies on every continent." Who is this guy? Napoleon? Let's get this straight: The military forces of this country are no longer commissioned to fight for America's defense. Rather, they must stand ready to head for any continent that's home to "tyrants," every country where "human liberty" is being denied, and any nation that is not "free and open." If we don't like a leader or the way a country's being run, we're ready to send in our forces. Look out Saddam Hussein. Look out Iraq, Iran, North Korea, Cuba, Libya, Syria and any other country since added to the "axis of evil." Either you carry out a "regime change" or we're coming to get you! Just listen to the president's words to the graduating cadets: "Our nation's cause has always been larger than our nation's defense. We fight, as we always fight, for a just peace -- a peace that favors human liberty. We will defend the peace against threats from terrorists and tyrants. We will preserve the peace by building good relations among the great powers. And we will extend the peace by encouraging free and open societies on every continent." As history, this is totally inaccurate. As a statement of national policy, it is totally un-American. The purpose of this country's military has been to protect this country and its vital interests. The big wars -- the Revolution, the War of 1812, the Civil War, World War I, World War II, Korea and Vietnam -- have all been fought for strategic reasons. They have all been fought, to put it bluntly, for us. What are these new goals that Bush has put forth? What ideology has sunk into his thinking that justifies this aggressive new role in the world and makes us a global ACLU that fights every country that fails to give its citizens the rights of American citizens? All of this talk is merely the pretext for an unprovoked American attack on Iraq. The ideological hawks around the president can't prove any Iraqi involvement in Sept. 11. Nor can they prove Saddam Hussein supplied the anthrax for those letters last fall. So they're setting up another cause for war. I'm not alone here. "I think this is a predicate for an attack on Iraq and I'm very concerned about it," Democratic California Sen. Dianne Feinstein said of Bush's hawkish words at West Point. "I think it would be a terrible mistake for the United States, unilaterally, to attack Iraq, and to do so without any congressional authorization. "I'm probably more concerned by this than by anything else, because if you do this and leave unsettled the Israeli-Palestinian crisis, which is a full-blown crisis, I think you turn the whole Muslim East against the United States," Feinstein said on CNN. There is certainly no other way to read Bush's call for military "pre-emptive action." The big question is whether other U.S. senators of both parties will insist that the president seek congressional approval for an attack on Iraq -- or any other country on his roll call of "evil." On Sept. 15, four days after the al-Qaeda attack on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, Congress passed a resolution authorizing the president "to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on Sept. 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons." My fear is that the rightist ideologues around the president are pushing him to a position where he doesn't think he needs to prove Saddam Hussein had something to do with Sept. 11. Perhaps Bush's hawks should just go ahead and change the DoD back to the War Department and forget all this "Defense" stuff.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 15:45:41 (EDT)

My two cents are: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A18597-2002Jun8.html
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 15:36:33 (EDT)

My two cents are: TOKYO (Reuters) - A Japanese man was so enraged by an acquaintance's failure to address him with an honorific that he stabbed the man to death with an umbrella, police said on Saturday. It was the second killing with an umbrella in Japan in less than a month. Ryuji Sakamoto, 32, was arrested Saturday and confessed to killing Takayuki Niimi, also 32, during a Friday night quarrel in the city of Sakuragi, some 170 miles west of Tokyo, police said. "It appears that Sakamoto harbored resentment of Niimi for quite some time because Niimi did not use an honorific when speaking to him," a police spokesman said. Sakamoto punched Niimi in the face several times and then, when he fell over, stabbed him in the head with the umbrella, police said. Niimi was taken to hospital but died soon after and Sakamoto surrendered early Saturday. Both men were unemployed, police said. Honorific terms of address are used constantly in Japan, even among friends, most commonly by adding the suffix "san" to a person's name. Failure to do so is seen as extremely rude. In May, a middle-aged man in southwestern Japan was stabbed to death with an umbrella, apparently in an argument over who had the right of way on a narrow road.
arigato
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 15:18:10 (EDT)

My two cents are: So solrac is back.
Pete�
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 15:00:58 (EDT)

My two cents are: GALLUP: BUSH APPROVAL RATING IN TAILSPIN Plummets 7 points in one week! Now stands at 4 points lower than President Clinton's the day after "impeachment".
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 13:41:07 (EDT)

My two cents are: Nothing runs like a Deere.
Glint
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 12:43:35 (EDT)

My two cents are: As a South American of Italian descent, I resent that dismal post.
Huamberto Diversaloba Do Sergipe
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 11:57:30 (EDT)

My two cents are: I thought a white man couldn't get a formula license unless his first name was Nigel. Every other formula driver is a wop or a South American.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 11:22:39 (EDT)

My two cents are: I'm really confused. This Z+2 has a warranty? When did cars start coming with warranties? Also, could you explain the cruise thing? I could never figure out how to make one work. I push it and it does funny things that I'm not too happy with. Hard to find a regular cab truck any more, just those awful extended cab jobs. Nissan doesn't even make a regular cab any more, they tell me. And what is a seven? Is that the actual F1 car? Where does the coupe fit in? You race it too, and it requires a formula license? Don't you void a warranty the first time you get it out on the track? Do you put ice cubes on the intake manifold and start cold when you're trying for a fast mile?
Huamberto Diversaloba Do Sergipe
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 11:17:03 (EDT)

My two cents are: Why is the automatic nice in traffic? You don't have to wear out your foot? What? And I always at least thought Glint was American, until I started having doubts when he refused to step up for his 4,000 hours for Snippy. Now it turns out he doesn't know anything about cars. How American is that? This supposed lawn-mower-loving Nebraska cornholer is obviously a mole, and reports directly to Pootie Poot.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 11:09:20 (EDT)

My two cents are: Yeah, same torque as the v8
zerk
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 09:40:07 (EDT)

My two cents are: That 4.3 is quite the torquer.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 09:39:37 (EDT)

My two cents are: well prep starts today. getting the garage cleaneed out and the tools organized. Wash and detail both vehicles. The automatic is pretty nice in the silverado. mostly long haul flat driving so the steep overdrive is a good match with the 4.3 200 horse v6. 2000 rpm at 70 mph compared to 3000 rpm at 70 in 5th in the zx2. Both have cruise. I'd not seen cruise on a manual tranny before. havent tried to use it in 3rd or 4th gears yet. Silverado goes in for its 30k service this friday. automatic is also pretty nice in traffic. Shortbed reg cab in metallic pewter, charcoal interior. pretty truck. zx2 is red of course.
zerk
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 09:34:26 (EDT)

My two cents are: so glunt derides me for getting premission to build the seven then turns around and announces the womenfolk are going to pick his daily driver? Who's whupped?
zerk
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 09:27:06 (EDT)

My two cents are: I think Glunt would look pretty awesome wearing a snood on the tractor!
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 09:20:50 (EDT)

My two cents are: So by sleeve valve I've always assumed you meant two stroke. a two stroke seven would be pretty wild. Not sure how posi would work in a frontwheel drive car. Turbo probably would be the warranty voiding way to go but I cant afford to beef up the rods and bearings as well although it will run mild boost stock.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 09:19:56 (EDT)

My two cents are: No not really for straihghtaways car is stiff enough for sport driving, maybe autocross, especially with the cupholder upgrade. When I build the super seven at least it wont have an ignition switch!. Already have the alloys, drums on the rear which is unfortunate but I can live with them, this isnt going to be the build car, It will probably run in C Stock (a race class). I'll slowly build the real seven for competition.
zerk
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 09:11:23 (EDT)

My two cents are: The Cooper has a 17 month wait at the place I was at Friday. The used car lot next door had them, but they cost more than the new ones. I wasn't looking, but I was with my supervisor from my final fling outside the bubble. Her name's Mini and she wants a MINI bad.
Glint
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 05:26:49 (EDT)

My two cents are: Crazy night. Backbone upgrade and we lost Toronto, which fell squarely on my shoulders. Son of a bitch! I snuck out to peek at asteroids for an hour between 2 and 3 a.m. Ignored the cell phone while eye glued to eyepiece. Expect an ass chewing on stormy Monday.
Glint
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 05:16:36 (EDT)

My two cents are: You are as lame as they come, Cliff. You pretty much don't rise higher than the level of you stink.
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- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 04:10:33 (EDT)

My two cents are: FER SHAME!!!! I lost my virginity in a Studebaker.
CLIFFORD
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 01:55:58 (EDT)

My two cents are: Variable valve timing sounds to me just like something more to break. Give me the old REO with the sleeve valves. It was the communists and anarcho-syndicalists that killed the sleeve valves, back in the late 'twenties. The same way General Motors's Moscow puppeteers killed the interurban trains in the early fifties.
The Crynic
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 01:31:57 (EDT)

My two cents are: I've got $24 large on Schumacher to not even make it to the podium at Montreal. But if I win the socialist govenment will steal all the money and my pussed over ex will grab the rest for the big Samoan one cumming.
Pete�
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 01:27:31 (EDT)

My two cents are: Speaking of Formula 1, are you guys all convinced that Shumi is going to win the Montreal Grand Prix? I think he might still chunk it, but the man is out there, I'll admit.
House of Meat
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 01:23:08 (EDT)

My two cents are: Why oil foar? Are you sure you got that right? You get one of those dry truncated-cone ones and drop it in the SVO you pick up five hp. I don't know about oil foam. The mods I would think you'd want, after the filter, if you really want to surprise the ricers, is first a turbocharger and intercooler. Doesn't have one, right? You can get a turbo kit for about $600 and instal it easy, although the hose routing may be tight with an intercooler up front. But you want that intercooler, it's free horsepower. Next you might try nitrous, just for that ten-second mile every now and then. You don't have to keep it loaded. What about unsprung weight? Does yours have the discs in back? Alloy wheels? Might think about that, even though you seem most interested in straightaways-- it makes sense I guess, in Texas. Do you have posi in back? Bigger ticket, but I wouldn't neglect it.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 01:13:59 (EDT)

My two cents are: Also, according to your URL, the cupholders are cherry.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 01:06:57 (EDT)

My two cents are: Down side is the zx2 is an orphan car, not really an escort and only 3 real years of production. Still, it does have that 2.0 zetec variable valve timing dohc powerplant.
zerk - nite gang.
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 00:06:46 (EDT)

My two cents are: the zx2 will actually smoke the base camaro 3.8 auto. also the base auto stang.
zerk
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 00:04:30 (EDT)

My two cents are: Of course the zx2 comes with an oversized performance exhaust and high performance throttle body already as well as this deal that shuts off the AC when you nail the gas. So its got alot of ricewr add-ons already. The leather wheel and high bolster recaro style buckets are pretty nice too.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 00:02:13 (EDT)

My two cents are: First up for the zx2 is going to be a k and n oil foam air filter and probably intake. Then I'll wait and see what the Lotus guys come up with for the ztec engine. I understand a close ratio six speed is already available as are hotter cams of course.
zerk
- Sunday, June 09, 2002 at 00:00:11 (EDT)

My two cents are: plus, the "in service" date was May 2000 meaning it was sold late in the model year - hence only 16k beng on the road slightly less than 2 years when we picked it up in march of 02. The "intrepid is a pig you may like glunt, I think dodge has some other boats as well.
zerk
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 23:57:00 (EDT)

My two cents are: thing about the zx2 is that it was accidental, and cheap, about 8 grand for a 2000 model with only 16k on it. Had gone out to buy some kind of civic, focus or cavalier econobox. came home with the sleeper super seven!
zerk
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 23:53:55 (EDT)

My two cents are: I'd say the new cooper is the car, once the beemers put a decent engine in it. Glunt should opt for maybe a avis ex 4 door. bite the bullet fatman
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 23:51:36 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 23:42:24 (EDT)

My two cents are: I thought they were dropping the Grand Am. Didn't need it any more since the Firebird and the Camero went away. Either way, any car Glunt chooses is fine with me. A guy who drools about a Corvette is probably dumb enough to be satisfied with some ricer accessories, a plastic spoiler and maybe a pot-metal interior roll-bar and a big chrome spud on the exhaust tube-- he can put them all on his Escort Z+2 and be as happy driving down to the husking bee as he would in a brand new F-250.
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- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 23:37:55 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 23:34:57 (EDT)

My two cents are: Some playing the pod person... it is possible to make a curved, good-looking car without making it look like a mushroom. If it's any consolation, mushroom style has afflicted almost every car this past few years. I call it mushroom because I am too polite to say cow-turd.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 23:29:59 (EDT)

My two cents are: Ok, the second url works. I'm dismayed to find that the Z3 has inferior cupholders. What could Bavarian Motor Werken have been thinking? Right now the Z+2 or 3 is taking it away in the cupholder department. But it still looks like a mushroom.
Gasket
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 23:27:10 (EDT)

My two cents are: I sort of like cars with hard lines as well, of course the paint always falls off those crisp edges dosen't it.
zerk
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 23:25:22 (EDT)

My two cents are: Bad url, Zerk. I can only conclude that there's no jism in the story and you're just trying to fool the page.
Glit
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 23:22:57 (EDT)

My two cents are: http://www.bmwworld.com/reviews/z3_23.htm a 40k dog. read it and weep.
zerk
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 23:22:10 (EDT)

My two cents are: http://www.epinions.com/auto-review-7E99-4C5E2B7-39D31F79-prod1 The ford zx2 is faster in the quarter mile by almost a full second and boasts 30 percent more horsepower. bmw vs escort? hahahahahahahaha
zerk
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 23:18:38 (EDT)

My two cents are: A lot of ignorant people thought that Snippy would respond to FBI and CIA fuckups by doing something at the FBI or the CIA. Funny how liberals never understand infinity.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 23:16:17 (EDT)

My two cents are: This new bureaucracy of Bush's, MT, don't worry, it's not nanny-statism. All it does is take a bunch of nanny agencies plus a few ringers like the Coast Guard (the Coast Guard?) and the ATF and the Insect Verification Bureau and puts them in one big pot like you do with okra and corn and squirrel cheeks and oysters. Then they all have to figure out what the other guy is doing, and pretty much drop most of what they do except act suspicious about Arabs. Try not to be out in a storm in a shipwreck until the War is over, because the Coast Guard is going to be busy elsewhere, and don't be surprised if more than the usual amount of rat-turds turn up in your ragout. Tell you what, though... you can probably get an undersize grapefruit a lot easier under the new regime. Every Republican fuckup has, in addition to a bigger fuckup to follow, a silver lining of some sort.
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- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 23:12:30 (EDT)

My two cents are: post a link for the z3. started with bout an 1800 whitefool. If its up to 3.2 its because the engine has no freaking compression, the germans way detune their engines so they last longer giving an air of quality derived in fact from non use.
zerk
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 23:11:47 (EDT)

My two cents are: look glunt, a 99 grand am was built in 1998, 2003's are on the floor, making the 98 a 5 year old car - . You'd be a white fool to do such a thing off a dealer lot. I'll think of something in your range and recommend it. A restored Pacer or Gremlin comes to mind, as does a 1980's dodge k car or ford ventura. Something with a straight six and no power, style, or anything seems best for buzzing down to the alehouse for a diet soda with brenda.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 23:09:09 (EDT)

My two cents are: Nah you're full o' shit the bmw z3 has a great big motor and a little bitty chassix, way overpowered for chicks, I don't care if they're southern chicks or what. They shouldn't be anywhere near that vehicle unless a man is behind the wheel, and then make sure the airbags are working and add a roll bar. Or so I've heard. I seen it marked on the car, 3.2 litres or something-- shit, that's like, around three quarts of pure zip. Hard to handle for anyone, man or woman.
.
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 23:07:25 (EDT)

My two cents are: No. the bmw z3 is underpowered and over engineered. I mean maybe by now you can get it it with a decent powerplant, well not decent, adequate maybe after its turbod and all.
zerk
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 22:59:56 (EDT)

My two cents are: So Bush's answer to us all getting shot is more nanny-statism? Why can't each airport set its own security measures and compete in the open marketplace? Maybe one airport could offer free parking instead of tight security. Those of us who can take care of ourselves in any situation, or who figure anything bad happening to us is a million to one shot, might choose to go such an airport, while the scared and nervous people could opt for tighter security and $40/day parking. And why this new nanny cabinet level bureaucracy? Just more jack-booted thugs. I hunger for freedom!
M.T.
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 20:30:21 (EDT)

My two cents are: I had 20K on that hrose. My pussed over twat ex will take whatever the socialsit government doesn't. Doink.
Pete�
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 20:20:52 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sarava a 70:1 longshot, wins the Belmont Stakes.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 19:41:58 (EDT)

My two cents are: Interesting that the liberals are still infinity-challenged.
Pete�
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 17:47:27 (EDT)

My two cents are: Hey, he's pretty damned artful, that doink boy you call pathetic. Notice how he's completing his theme, bringing it back around to his mullet-minding the speed of light. If we're lucky, we'll get a little more self-important conjecture about infinite space and infinite mass being mutually exclusive. Ah, Pete, pete, pete, you poor confused loser. You poor pathetic wasted lump of lard and skin and bristle. Hard to imagine why you still haven't worked up the balls to do it.
House of Meat
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 17:30:28 (EDT)

My two cents are: Doink. Oh. Pathetic asshole.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 17:24:41 (EDT)

My two cents are: Gee, coward must be able to see light speed. Doink.
Pete�
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 15:33:55 (EDT)

My two cents are: A drive-by by the pitiful, witless asshole?
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 15:23:23 (EDT)

My two cents are: Well, speaking of Snippy, what does everyone think of his plan to revamp intelligence-gathering by putting the Coast Guard and the Traffic Administration and the Meat Inspection Service in a new Department of Homeland Defense and leaving the FBI and the CIA where they are? Sounds pretty brilliant to me, as long as he lives up to the plan to make the FBI into a domestic snooping outfit rather than a fingerprint library and public-relations operation.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 15:22:28 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sounds dauntless to me, Errol, my pal. Doink.
Pete�
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 15:18:37 (EDT)

My two cents are: Automatic transmissions might actually be a good bet, dude, in places where there is no topography, like Texas or Nebraska. If all you're doing is driving on the flat, and you don't have to go around corners except to go around the hayseed preparing to turn left into his road by swinging way to the right. Maybe an automatic transmission can handle those midwestern roads, the same way beer made without hops can satisfy midwestern taste buds.
House of Meat
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 15:16:03 (EDT)

My two cents are: Back when I was driving around a lot in San Francisco, I found that a used '63 Corvair Monza was a great car for it. Always sought out the steepest routes anywhere, in a Corvair. The best thing for hills, especially if you're behind someone else and can't hook the front wheels on the cross-flat, is a hand-brake between the seats, and of course the monza was so equipped. Or I suppose for girls and Sunday-school teachers an automatic transmission would work, but wouldn't one of those wear out pretty quickly? I can't stand them on hills, because they pretty much always choose the wrong gear.
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- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 15:11:59 (EDT)

My two cents are: No, the problem with the Z3 as a girl's car is the motor is way way way too powerful. The car was designed for dentists with hormone problems, and girls will only kill themselves in it. No reason somebody's daughter should have a car that probably like 3rd gear best at the speed limit. I sort of like it, except that they felt it had to have the ugly BMW double-square snout. The gills along the sides of the motor compartment are real, they go through into where the motor is and probably help cool it. I don't think there are any non-turbocharged Fords that can say the same thing. If the crynic were here he would explain that you need an Opal, but he's not here.
Gasket
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 15:00:35 (EDT)

My two cents are: What if they run a check on Glint's cookies, and find all the ones from the transvestite and dead-body pages? Will he still get on the airplane or will he have to take the van and mutter vroom to himself pretending it's a used vet?
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- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 14:55:26 (EDT)

My two cents are: Credit Checks Sought On Suspicious Air Travelers Fri Jun 07 2002 11:13:16 ET Uncle Sam may soon want to check passengers"credit histories before they board airplanes, the WALL STREET JOURNAL reported on Friday. The Transportation Security Administration is enlisting companies that analyze personal credit-card and insurance records. MORE "The aim is to target suspicious travelers when they make a reservation so that by the time they show up at the airport, authorities will be on alert." The US "is asking a handful of firms that provide fraud- detection technology for credit-card companies or insurers, such as HNC Software Inc. and Infoglide Software Corp., to demonstrate how the government could run airline passengers' names against various databases to identify potential terrorists. The government hasn't disclosed what databases it plans to tap, but efforts to expand what authorities know about air travelers are taking wing. "The project, run out of the TSA, is seeking help from the Federal Bureau of Investigation and other law-enforcement agencies that keep lists of people wanted by the government. The TSA is asking Congress for $45 million to fund the project." Devloping... http://www.drudgereport.com/flash9.htm
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 14:49:18 (EDT)

My two cents are: The Audi TT is just a 1.8 litre engine, but it's a turbo. Looks like another car that would be hot sliding between the hills of Frisco. Lots of air bags. Gotta like that. Those things work pretty damn good.
Glint
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 14:26:09 (EDT)

My two cents are: Who needs a snood in Texas? When was the last time it ever snowed where you live? What a weenie.
Glint
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 14:15:02 (EDT)

My two cents are: Doesn't take much to total a sedan with 160,000+ miles on it.
Glint
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 14:12:44 (EDT)

My two cents are: "...the z3 is a dog, glunt, a fancy girl car." I believe it. Right up there with other classic faggot cars such as the Jetta and the Miata. Now the pressure's on to get something pre-owned that I can commute comfortably in for a year or two before #6 steals it and plunges it headlong into some collegeate bubble somewhere. They promise then I'll get to buy something that I want. Test drove a '99 Grand Am this morning. Or I should say each of the three women folk test drove it. They had me print a Kelly Blue Took tear sheet and then dragged me along but wouldn't let me behind the wheel. Something about wearing a cast. This handicap has made it oh so easy when it comes to pussywhipping. Let me tell you, I drove the caravan up around the forest to the the hill top observatory and back in the wee hours this morning, with no trouble, no trouble at all. <> I've changed my mind about he X3. Not practical enough. Insufficient luggage space for her computer, stero, and shoes when we push her out of the nest.
Glint
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 14:01:01 (EDT)

My two cents are: That Lotus Super Seven (1972) looks like a keeper. Did you see what that idiot did to that Eclat 521 (2L) LHD? Fieros are better that that piece of junk.
Glint
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 13:47:29 (EDT)

My two cents are: Heh Heh, the fat Nebraskan Australopithecus Robustus, got more hormones, than these, foot trompin' brake squealin', rubber bumper baby bumpers.
CLIFFORD
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 12:58:24 (EDT)

My two cents are: Well, I'll be danged!!! Where do you put the Gun Rack and Fido??
CLIFFORD
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 12:43:38 (EDT)

My two cents are: Also, I can't afford a car without rain gutters, because my fun-hog rack is the kind that clamps on to gutters.
Gasket
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 11:27:59 (EDT)

My two cents are: Went to the site, and the Zx2 sounds good, especially the cupholders. On the other hand, it's still one of those turn-of-the-millenium cars that look like mushrooms, so I think I'll have to pass. I just refuse to get a car that looks like a mushroom. I want some right angles to the sheet metal, like you get, or used to get, in a Jeep or a pick-up truck or a Duisenburg. Also, I don't much like a vehicle that doesn't have rain gutters. I know, I know, this all means that I'm never going to have a new car again, but life is full of these little tragedies.
Gasket
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 11:25:56 (EDT)

My two cents are: I thought when you were talking about a Lotus in the garage it was a formula car. Glomp is talking, I think, about a Lotus Elite, which was a boy-racer of the early '60's and a very nice one. Only drawback I could see, or smell, was that it had a fiberglass hull and didn't come without a top. They later made a lesser street car, the Lotus Elan, as well as the many many winning race cars.
Sacco
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 11:18:35 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 10:55:10 (EDT)

My two cents are: http://www.nctd.com/00/comp/00escortzx2.cfm A decent description of the zx2.
zerk
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 10:27:35 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 10:16:01 (EDT)

My two cents are: Commuted 4 days in the zx2 last week. Car is amazingly fine handling, can put it just about anywhere. The svt folks retuned the steering and suspension and added an engine subframe motor mounting system and 4 point trailing link independent rear suspension. Topped off with the 60 series goodyear 15's on aluminum rims, its a pretty nice package.
zerk
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 10:04:58 (EDT)

My two cents are: Gracilus, thats me, the fat nebraskan is australopithecus robustus.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 10:02:01 (EDT)

My two cents are: put your snood on clifford!
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 10:01:08 (EDT)

My two cents are: the variable valve timing must be some sort of sophisticated bateson whirligig. Honda is using it on the prelude and vw on I'm not sure what, a diesel even perhaps.
zerk
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 10:00:17 (EDT)

My two cents are: AAAAAAAAH, HOMO ERECTUS.
CLIFFORD
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 09:58:49 (EDT)

My two cents are: There's supposed to be a corvair rally on the town square today, for real!. Gonna shoot down there in the zx2 with the ftb shortly.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 09:58:29 (EDT)

My two cents are: Glunt's comments also continue to reveal the lens of distortion through which the retchies rule the world. Seems he got a check for the minivan in spite of the musky smell on the back seat. But the ninny van is totalled it seems. But it was, as Glunt says, a "fender bender". So the question is obvious, in what world view are a fender bender and a car being totalled equi-valent.
zerk
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 09:57:27 (EDT)

My two cents are: oops, zx2, not zx3, neither to be confused with the z3 bmw. the zx2 and zx3 do share the same engine. zx2 is a faster car though, at least until the svt folks hotrod a zx3.
zerk
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 09:54:41 (EDT)

My two cents are: Learnedthat the hot new motor for the 7 is the ford ztec - same base as the zx3 we just bought. seems the dohc and varaible valve timing are making it quite the commodity on the race circuit. I want to build more of a vintage 7 though, probably 1100cc dual carb with 13 inch spokes. I'll have to check out McGoohans. I bet he didnt need a snood driving from chipping Edgeworth to bristol in the cold cold rain. Even when it fell in cold cold drops.
zerk
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 09:52:35 (EDT)

My two cents are: Ms zerk seems to be balking a little at the idea of wearing a snood. The link below should explicate the problem. http://freespace.virgin.net/lotus.herts/archivenew/forsale.htm Though I think she might change her mind on a cool morning humming down to Bristol from Chipping Edgeworth.
zerk
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 09:48:30 (EDT)

My two cents are: the pathetic thing about the rube here is that we're maybe starting a small discussion about true performance vehicles, the super 7, maybe the ac cobra and the rube pipes up about a corvette, a pig of a car by comparison. Perhaps the air of the super 7 is a little too rarified for the husker, being sort of above the bubble - something he didnt think possible.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 09:41:50 (EDT)

My two cents are: the z3 is a dog, glunt, a fancy girl car. look to the audi TT is you want something with cajones. maybe the hotrodded prelude st2000 or whatever it is. redlines at 8k!
zerk
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 07:58:19 (EDT)

My two cents are: Its a national racing license, not texas specific. you need one to run formula cars idiots. Yeah, I admit I need permission, but actually what I got was enthusiasm, she's into it. Wants to be my pit slut.
zerk
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 07:56:06 (EDT)

My two cents are: Patrick McGoohan drove a Lotus in The Prisoner series. Now there's a man. Didn't have to go crawling to his old lady for permission first. Think I'll have a midnight snack and go to bed. Clouded up on the hill.
Glint
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 06:14:49 (EDT)

My two cents are: Used veterinarian? Wha...? Pretty slow amongst the rubes tonight. You fellers all tuckered out from a huskin' bee or something? Been a hard day out planting the okra? Adjusting the blades on the lawn-mower? Tough being a rube, is it? Hard being a hick? Take solace in the knowledge that any strong country needs bumpkins, people who can change the oil and the filter, slap on a new roll in the mall toilet stalls, without feeling put out, just tired and ready to watch Fox and dream about a shinier car. We'd be in a pretty pickle without bumpkins. Carry on, Pete and Glint.
we appreciate you guys
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 05:45:00 (EDT)

My two cents are: You need the old lady to give you "permission" to park some old wreck in the garage? What a sissy. Went car shopping at lunch today. Checked out some Z3's. Picked up a check from the insurance company a couple days ago. Wife said she passed a used vet along the side of the road. I asked how much it was. About the same as the amount on the check. Coincidence?
Glint
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 05:15:22 (EDT)

My two cents are: Subway Alert?
Pete�
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 03:00:06 (EDT)

My two cents are: Shit, they got LICENSES for racing out there? What, do they have licenses for mowing the freaking lawn? No wonder MK thought life was a nanny state. I think I realized Texas was fucked when I saw that it looked like everything from Skip Fordyce's Bike Shop in San Bernardino to the middle Brazos. Still, it's hard to believe that the land that remembers the Alamo makes you get a hall pass to sit in a formula car. Is it some sort of fucked-up international rule as has been the norm with formula racing the last 20 years or so, or is it an actual Texas state license? Maybe I been giving Texas a bum rap on this. Say it ain't so. Say it's the Luigis and the Nigels and the Jean-Maries who are doing this to you, not the Udales and the J. Prestons.
Gasket
- Saturday, June 08, 2002 at 02:24:50 (EDT)

My two cents are: All I'm waiting for now is the racing season schedule and registration forms. Got Formula tracks in Corpus, DFW, Houston and more. The Ms in to running the powderpuff series although I suspect it's called something else than that behind the scenes. Anyway, I'll let you all know when I get the race license in the mail. Cars are a piece of cake compared to Bultaco's. For a race driver anyway. A guy with copper gutters may fail a test like this. Iron block 225 and all. Kind of sad, really, even with a blower.
zerk2none
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 22:45:17 (EDT)

My two cents are: Old lady says I can hand craft a vintage lotus super seven in the garage. rough life. lucky f really. glad I'm not hammered down to 25 acres of steam vent scrub in carrol county.
zerk
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 22:40:21 (EDT)

My two cents are: Fuck, I just got my Class B Modified Racing License approved, legit to run B-class gran prix events, solo's and formula vees!!!!. You guys are still crashing in traffic??? Must be republicans, no foresight at all but Clinton looming in the rearview causing every crash!!!!!
zerk.
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 22:07:15 (EDT)

My two cents are: Looks like Pete got arrested for nothing more than the criminal equivalent of a "fender bender." Would that give him a real criminal record? That would seem to put him about infinity below President Clinton on the Virtue Scale.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 20:59:27 (EDT)

My two cents are: "getting arrested and going to jail" = getting caught by men in white jackets and taken to the rubber-walled room.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 19:14:47 (EDT)

My two cents are: So YOU'RE the one responsible for that magnificent post at 15:20? Congratulations! It was somewhat commendable!
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 18:55:56 (EDT)

My two cents are: Nice try, imposter Pete 17:35. 15:20 was my last post (ahem). Anyway, Glint, the fauxites are in full swing. They lacked your clarity and substance, albeit infinite mass. (ahem)
Pete�
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 18:27:30 (EDT)

My two cents are: Soul me Breightly such a gentille kindness/ sparks of mares/ upon the dark dell behovely/ such stellar/ maids, such/ soft melodious madness/ driven/ through and through./ Such daring, you would/ fly off the handle, explore/ consciousness and space,/ spill out your spirit,/ know you not/ what wicked winds break through/ what jealous envy feeds/ upon daring eloquence./ So many days I often/ think of you,/ your majestic fiercenss,/ your/ allure/ lobed in lobelia.../ keep a clear mind/ dearest souls, drink not/ in the drunkenness of others,/ keep a clear mind/ see through lucid dreaming.
Pete�
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 17:35:15 (EDT)

My two cents are: "He said he then ... climbed down, and RAN home." (Emphasis added)
evidence...?
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 17:17:45 (EDT)

My two cents are: If Clinton can do it in a sink and not come to harm, I suppose that Skakel, whoever he may be, can do it in a tree.
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- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 17:16:18 (EDT)

My two cents are: Whoever he is, I hope he uses a safety belt.
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- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 17:15:12 (EDT)

My two cents are: Who's Skakel?
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 16:38:17 (EDT)

My two cents are: "They played a tape of Skakel telling an author in 1997 that after he returned home from his cousin's house, he went to the Moxley estate, thinking: "'Martha likes me. I'll go get a kiss from Martha. I'll be bold tonight.' He said he climbed a tree and threw sticks and rocks at Martha's window and yelled her name. He said he then masturbated in the tree, climbed down and ran home."
A Dr. J� *NEWS FLASH*
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 16:34:27 (EDT)

My two cents are: So, House of Meat, you're saying that Gore probably would have fucked up as badly as Snippy? Where is the evidence for that? As a matter of fact, there isn't a shred of evidence that anyone would have fucked up as bad as the Snip. Hell, as far as the evidence goes, even Dan Quayle wouldn't have fucked up as bad as Bush. There is not even evidence that Big Bush would have fucked up as bad. Or even Jeb. When you look at the available evidence, it is clear that only Snippy would have fucked up as bad as he did. QED, man.
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- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 16:32:49 (EDT)

My two cents are: Just because Glint's yard isn't full of infinite mass doesn't prove that light speed travel is impossible. It just proves that it's not happening right now, in this universe.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 16:28:29 (EDT)

My two cents are: Man, somebody sure did a job on that thing about how Gore wouldn't have fucked up on terrorism the way Bush did! Pretty much proves that the whole piece is not much more than supposition! That is damned somewhat commendable work, whoever did it!
House of Meat
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 16:25:18 (EDT)

My two cents are: "Maybe a faux Pete or two ..."
Even Glint's not sure
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 16:18:49 (EDT)

My two cents are: Who does this little bitch FBI "whistle blower" think she is anyway?
Linda Tripp
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 16:12:42 (EDT)

My two cents are: "we will never know with absolute certainty whether [Algore's] Administration could have prevented the terrorist attacks of September 11, or some other similar enormity"
thank goodness we'll never have to know!
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 16:08:36 (EDT)

My two cents are: "it is perfectly clear that, under President Gore, the success of those attacks would have been far less certain than they proved to be."
evidence...?
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 16:08:13 (EDT)

My two cents are: "They, unlike the Bush Administration, would have had nothing to hide."
evidence...?
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 16:07:49 (EDT)

My two cents are: "Members of President Gore's Administration would not have lied shamefacedly"
evidence...?
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 16:07:36 (EDT)

My two cents are: "President Gore...would have immediately understood the importance of the August 9 C.I.A. briefing entitled ''Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.'' and would have ordered an urgent intelligence review and coordination of all current leads and materials on bin Laden and Al Qaeda operations in the United States."
evidence...?
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 16:07:13 (EDT)

My two cents are: "President Gore would not have been on vacation for the whole month of August 2001."
evidence...?
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 16:06:52 (EDT)

My two cents are: "Had those recommendations been followed up, it is highly unlikely that the attacks of 9/11 could have occurred."
evidence...?
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 16:06:37 (EDT)

My two cents are: Beware the faux Glints below. Maybe a faux Pete or two too to step around.
Glint
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 15:51:23 (EDT)

My two cents are: One other question. You sed: "And since our back yard isn't occupied by an infinite mass, we can deduce that light speed travel is impossible." But; the back yard is a defined area so by definition, it could not have an infinite space to hold an infinite mass, unless you refer also to the sky above the back yard "unto infinity." Then, there would be an infinite mass extending the full length of that infinite space, I presume. Nothing could move in that already occupied space. But if void, how does one buy something with infinite mass, Johnny Wadd aside?
Pete�
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 15:20:34 (EDT)

My two cents are: Pinching loaf, eh? Well, it's good to know that the sack of shit use somewhat commendable at something.
Pete's ex-wife
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 15:18:07 (EDT)

My two cents are: I watched the loaves in the telescope.
Glint
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 15:15:26 (EDT)

My two cents are: Pete's crime? Being a bad boy. The ex is not going to like this.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 15:14:38 (EDT)

My two cents are: Mere crime doesn't get you kicked out in Arkansas. You have to evade questions about when and where you got blow-jobs.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 15:13:57 (EDT)

My two cents are: If you get arrested and go to jail in Arkansas, you are not automatically in the bad boy club, but if you are a lawyer you get kicked out of the lawyering club. Don't you?
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 15:12:34 (EDT)

My two cents are: Gee, Glint, how did you know about that "area"?
Pete�
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 15:10:14 (EDT)

My two cents are: Actually, Pete is not a bad boy. In fact, in some areas he is somewhat commendable.
Glint
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 15:09:07 (EDT)

My two cents are: Saw undercover brother. Pretty good flick. Could have used his mojo after getting arrested and going to jail. I'm now officially a member fo the bad boys club? Not fun.
Pete�
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 15:04:23 (EDT)

My two cents are: You don't think that a bunch of yahoos that run like frightened hamsters at the first sign of danger are the best people to be at the helm? Hey, isn't discretion the better part of valor, or something? How is an unelected president ever going to wipe away the stain if all he does is get stalked and killed by a rag-head? Rove pushed the right buttons on Air Force One that day, and did the right thing for Snippy and, oddly enough, for Rudolf Giuliani. Did you expect Rove to push Snippy to the lectern with the shit still stuck to his legs?
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- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 14:46:54 (EDT)

My two cents are: They pretty much had to retire Hughes after the "axis of evil" catastrophe, that made it OK for the whole civilized world to come out and laugh dirisively at Snippy's ignorance and ineptitude. There's nothing the Republican Party abhors more than to look like a bunch of bandy-legged little ignoramuses-- these are the people who are driven to politics, after all, by the hope that they can some day be introduced to the Queen of England. That is, the ones who have already satiated themselves at the trough. Is Karl Rove going to do any better? The author of the "yes, run like a rabbit, save our asses first and ask questions later" scenario? There are those among us who doubt it.
House of Meat
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 14:41:48 (EDT)

My two cents are: Al Gore, who believes in the Constitution and America, instead of Snippy who believes in Old Money and Kennebunkport.
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- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 14:36:00 (EDT)

My two cents are: Al Gore, who never even started a whispering campagin about how John McCain was a traiter who sold his fellow-prisoners out to the gook in the Hanoi Hilton while others were suffering in the Texas guard.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 14:33:21 (EDT)

My two cents are: Gore, who really was from a red-neck state, a red state, while Snippy was an effete easterner with quiche bits stuck between his teeth.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 14:31:21 (EDT)

My two cents are: Gore, who played football while Snippy was captain of the cheerleader boys.
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- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 14:28:33 (EDT)

My two cents are: Gore, who draw cushy service in Vietnam while Snippy was forced to go AWOL from the Texas Air National Guard!
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 14:19:44 (EDT)

My two cents are: Oh, sure, liar Gore. The guy who invented the internet. Who was the inspiration for Ryan O'Neal in Love Story. Who knew about the Dingleberry Bill and wanted to keep Social Security in a lock box. The guy whose proposed "tax cut" wouldn't have done anything for trickle-down, but would rather have directly cut taxes on the people who should be trickled on. Gore, who doesn't even have bandy legs. Gore, who got a blow-job in the Oval.... wait a minute, that wasn't Gore. Two peas in a pod, though.
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- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 14:12:43 (EDT)

My two cents are: Turns out that Karen Hughes made all Snippy's decisions for him. Now that they've pushed her into retirement, Rove's making all the decisions, but they're even worse ones than Karen's. Bwa ha ha.
ANNALS OF BUSH THE UNELECTED
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 14:06:44 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 13:54:45 (EDT)

My two cents are: BY POPULAR DEMAND: WHAT WOULD GORE HAVE DONE? A New MWO Pocket Guide Some skeptical readers have written in to ask us, in effect, what Gore would have done any differently than Dubya in advance of the terrorist atrocities of September 11. "You keep saying that since Bush knew so much he should have acted," one critic writes. "Well, just what should he have done?" Fair questions -- questions that we imagine many MWO readers are either asking or having asked of them. So here is a brief pocket guide to just a few of the things that President Gore would almost certainly have done differently than George W. Bush did. -- President Gore would not have appointed John Ashcroft as Attorney-General -- the man who backed off from the Clinton Administration's counter-terrorist efforts right up until September 10, preferring small-time efforts like his crusade against the medical use of marijuana. The same Ashcroft who, when warned by outgoing F.B.I. chief Louis Freeh about the terrorist threat, brushed him off. -- President Gore would not have appointed Donald Rumsfeld as Secretary of Defense -- the man who, before September 11, actually called for slighting counter-terrorism spending in favor of his pet project, the discredited updated Star Wars program. -- President Gore would not have appointed Condoleezza Rice as chief of the National Security Agency -- the woman who Sandy Berger told would be spending most of her time dealing with Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda, but who failed to follow up. -- President Gore would have tried to implement the recommendations of the 1996-97 commission on airline security that he himself chaired, but which the Bush White House and the G.O.P., heavily funded by the airline industry, dissed and dismissed. Had those recommendations been followed up, it is highly unlikely that the attacks of 9/11 could have occurred. -- President Gore would not have been on vacation for the whole month of August 2001. -- President Gore's foreign policy would not have been geared to placating the oil families in Saudi Arabia (including the old Bush family friends and business partners, the bin Ladens). Nor would it have envisaged securing an oil-line to the Caspian Sea as the major American policy priority in the Afghanistan region. -- President Gore, a veteran of an Administration that tried to kill Osama bin Laden, would have continued Predator drone tracking of bin Laden, which the Bush regime abandoned. -- President Gore, a veteran of an Administration that tried to kill Osama bin Laden, would have immediately understood the importance of the August 9 C.I.A. briefing entitled ''Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.'' and would have ordered an urgent intelligence review and coordination of all current leads and materials on bin Laden and Al Qaeda operations in the United States. Under a continuation of Clinton-Gore policy, such a review and coordination would have been automatic. Based on what we know now the F.B.I. and other federal officials knew, this would have led to the prompt apprehension of the September 11 terrorists (or at least their ringleaders) -- roughly a month BEFORE they were to strike. -- Members of President Gore's Administration would not have lied shamefacedly -- as Condi Rice and others in the Bush Administration have lied -- about what their boss knew and didn't know before September 11. Why? They, unlike the Bush Administration, would have had nothing to hide. And that's just for starters. What has become clearer and clearer is that events never should have reached the pass that the United States was as vulnerable as it proved to be. And while many hands were responsible for this horror, Bush's attempts to palm off responsibility and play the hapless victim are, well, outrageously irresponsible. Without question, President Gore would have been far more active than Bush was in protecting the national interest from Al Qaeda terrorism. And although, thanks to the Scalia 5, we will never know with absolute certainty whether his Administration could have prevented the terrorist attacks of September 11, or some other similar enormity, it is perfectly clear that, under President Gore, the success of those attacks would have been far less certain than they proved to be.
ANNALS OF PRESIDENT GORE
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 13:51:06 (EDT)

My two cents are: Kennedy charm is so five minutes ago. The tide has turned.Time to charge Ted.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 13:49:10 (EDT)

My two cents are: Herman Fritz guilty.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 13:45:32 (EDT)

My two cents are: Capp Street wino found guilty.
public drunkenness
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 13:43:43 (EDT)

My two cents are: That guy they caught in Laramie with the bad checks? Guilty.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 13:42:47 (EDT)

My two cents are: I wish Pete were here to tell us about all the money he's making in the stock market.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 13:40:41 (EDT)

My two cents are: Or you could drink lots of beer, stuff your mouth with potato chips and gain about 20 pounds. Carrying that extra weight in front will strengthen your legs, altough you'll have to look in a mirror to see them.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 13:29:33 (EDT)

My two cents are: I'm a little rusty on my Greek. Where does eta come in the alphabet?
House of Meat
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 13:22:17 (EDT)

My two cents are: Skakel Guilty.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 13:01:30 (EDT)

My two cents are: This message gives station coverage information for the occultation of the 11.6-mag. star TYC 6239-01425) by the asteroid (568) Cheruskia on Sunday morning, June 9 (late Saturday night), visible from southern Manitoba, northern Minnesota, northern Wisconsin, southern Michigan, northeastern Ohio, southwestern Pennsylvania, northtern West Virginia, almost all of Maryland, DC, northernmost Virginia, and Delaware except (maybe) the northernmost part. With the 0.7-path-width 1-sigma uncertainty, observers in adjacent areas also have a reasonable chance to observe this occultation. The Accuweather forecast remains very good, with 10% or less cirrus forecast at the time, from Detroit to Ocean City, Maryland, so especially observers in the eastern part of the path are encouraged to attempt this occultation. Extensive low clouds are predicted from Duluth to Green Bay, and I think the forcast for Winnipeg is also not very promising. If an occultation occurs, there will be a 2.3-mag. drop (the asteroid is 14th mag.) with a central occultation expected to last 6 seconds. Fortunately, the target star is only 3' south and a little east of 7.7-mag. ZC 2495 (SAO 160584) in southern Ophiuchus, making it relatively easy to locate the target star, TYC 6239-01425. The target star is about 5 deg. east and 2 deg. south of the 2.6- mag. star eta Ophiuchi (Sabik).
FYI
43 km N. of the center line , - Friday, June 07, 2002 at 12:39:17 (EDT)

My two cents are: I got the tennis elbow as well, only it was about 9 months ago. Squeegeeing tar on the driveway. The section that's non-gravel anyway. About 2,000 - 2,200 square feet or so. That wasn't so bad, but then along with of the next doors we squeegeeed our road, and that was at minimum another 5,000 square feet. Also powerwashed the deck that week and guess the elbow couldn't take it any more. Got some stretching exercises I do a couple times a month. Make a fist and bend the wrist up and down. That's about it for my work out. Oh, that and yard work. Steering and setting the cruise control. <> Stars & stripes cast comes off on Flag Day.
Glint
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 11:08:55 (EDT)

My two cents are: I got more ideas. Get a dog and throw the ball for him. Get a shotgun and go turkey hunting, although this spring's season is over. Maybe better make that quail hunting or a rifle and deer hunting. That will work the legs. Get off that stupid treadmill and do some real walking. The treadmill is in a gym, right? And the gym has aerobics classes? The best exercise I ever had, no contest, was aerobics classes. They've got mirrors on the walls, so everybody scopes out everybody else while doing the hops. Then everyone gets down for the abs, and on all fours for the leg-lifts, working the butts. But the best part is the forty minutes or so of jumping around, works the bod much more than one of those treadmills, probably, and there's a mass energy/hypnosis/hormone thing that happens. That's probably the main flaw in your routine, not contributing to the squishyness of the aerobics class.
Anonymous.
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 10:49:03 (EDT)

My two cents are: Since i got the tennis elbow 18 months ago, my goal was to steadily increase tendon strength and it seems to be doing pretty well. swimming might be good on lite day afternoons. thanks again!!
zerk
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 07:58:59 (EDT)

My two cents are: thanks for the excellent advice. will definetely incorporate it into the weight routine. I do the yard stuff as well, but there's not enough and I need the focus of a workout. for me, yardwork comes with a beer in one hand. I do want to get back to swiming. I do about 2 miles treadmill at a walking pace of 3.5 mph. walk ab hour at lunch, and have a heavy and light workout for alternating days. heaqvy day is fifty curls, fifty swiss ball cruncehes, fifty 15 lb flys on a swiss ballthree, 50 crunches, 50 curls 50 crunches, 50 flys, 50 crunches, 50 curls and a final 50 crunches and 50 flys for a total of 150 curls and flys and 250 crunches. light day i sort of fumble around with swiss ball tricep extensions and some core stability strength exercise.
zerk
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 07:49:00 (EDT)

My two cents are: I didn't get my "edgemahkayshun", behind the barn--I got it when I joined Yahoo Groups. WOW!!!! The things that they do over there, would make bald men grow hair, and the ladies will tell their Old Man, just how lousy he is in bed. They even got pix to prove it. (Dr. Ruth, must have had a ball or balls in her day)
CLIFFORD
- Friday, June 07, 2002 at 03:06:30 (EDT)

My two cents are: Why not cut all the insane shit with the weights, and get a shovel and a snorkel and some fins. Go out to the lake or the ocean as often as you can and swim around looking at things. A river is nice, because it moves you, and things are thus always changing. When you don't have time to go swimming (although you could join a club with a pool if yours doesn't have one), dig holes in the yard with the shovel. If you feel like it, plant things in the holes. Either way, it's good for the soil. And don't just stand there and lean on the shovel like a private consultant-- you got to work the fucker. But a truckload of cinderblocks and try different ways of stacking them out bgack. Try for three new ways a week-end, maybe a couple during the week when you're not shoveling. There are a thousand ways to stay physically active, and pushing iron around is the goofiest. Get past it.
Captain Boomer
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 23:22:49 (EDT)

My two cents are: In fact, you could do the aerobics the "off" days. Try to never spend more than an hour doing any of this. When you work a muscle group, choose two (or 3) exercises to do the sets. That'll get you, say, 2 or 3 chest exercises. That means you're doing 6 to 8 sets in one day. Do the math. You'll see you're getting your reps, but you're also growing lean mass - muscle. It's slow, which is good. Keeps you working.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 22:34:59 (EDT)

My two cents are: Then you wait until the next week. The time off is what causes the good things to happen.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 22:24:57 (EDT)

My two cents are: Work chest one day, along with shoulders. Next workout, do back and biceps. Then, shoulders followed by triceps. Legs get their own day.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 22:24:13 (EDT)

My two cents are: Tell you what. All those reps are great for the tendons and ligaments but not much good for the muscles. Save yourself some time. You've gotten good results from high reps because you were a tub of lard and all that movement was aerobic. You burned fat. You also built some muscle, at least to the point your muscles could easily handle a light weight for 50 fucking reps per set. See what you can do at 12 reps max. Rest a minute. Now up the weight and see if you can do 8. Rest. Up the weight and go till exhaustion. Once you can do a pryamid of 12-8-6 with relative ease, up the weight and cycle again. Maybe you'll kind of max out. THEN, try adding reps. A lot of the pain you're feeling is from repetitive motion. Look, your ligaments and tendons are in fantastic shape. Make the muscles that they connect do the work now. You will add muscle, thus gaining more lean mass. Your heart will get stronger too. If you still want to do something aerobic, do it. Walk, run, stairclimber, etc. But never do a long aerobic BEFORE a weight workout. You'll cheat yourself.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 22:18:04 (EDT)

My two cents are: Deliverance? The truth shall set you free? Amen, Brother.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 21:56:40 (EDT)

My two cents are: Bush is a poor speaker, sing-song deliverance.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 21:25:25 (EDT)

My two cents are: Hey, weight training question. doing curls and getting a pulling feeling down sides of back of neck. 15 pound dumbells at 3 sets of 50. How does 3 sets of 50 compare to six of 25? 6 of 25 seems to pull less and is less of a strugle than the last 15 or 20 of a set of 50 which is pretty much teethgrinding by the last 5..
zerk.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 21:14:04 (EDT)

My two cents are: Don't the gerbils cut their paws on the broken glass?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 20:34:15 (EDT)

My two cents are: Glint may indeed shove light bulbs up his ass. However, if he does, they're broken bulbs, and Glint only imagines the light shining out of it.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 20:14:23 (EDT)

My two cents are: Barry Manilow is still among us, as Pete surely knows. Would like nothing more than to see Neil Diamond, Ritchie Havens, and Barry all warbling "Little Green Apples" together on the same stage.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 19:49:48 (EDT)

My two cents are: Dylan couldn't carry Pat Boone's Book of Revelations.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 19:41:31 (EDT)

My two cents are: Como's dead? Der Bingle? Ol' Shit Eyes?... OK. Bob Dylan and Pat Boone live on.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 19:34:32 (EDT)

My two cents are: So, my ass is a little light you say? I'll take that as a compliment.
Glint
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 19:02:27 (EDT)

My two cents are: Como died a few months ago. Andy Williams still walks the earth.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 19:01:44 (EDT)

My two cents are: And yet, Perry Como lives on.
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- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 18:59:09 (EDT)

My two cents are: So I hear.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 18:53:20 (EDT)

My two cents are: Dee Dee Ramone is dead.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 18:42:39 (EDT)

My two cents are: Unchecked photons, eh? Perhaps the ultimate proof the terrorists have won.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 18:27:42 (EDT)

My two cents are: Glint puts light bulbs up his ass? I thought it was just the poker.
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- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 17:58:44 (EDT)

My two cents are: Glint, I respectfully must say that the "tribute in light" was shut off at least a month ago. Those photons must be coming from somewhere else. Perhaps a hole in the seat of your pants?
Aaron
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 17:54:16 (EDT)

My two cents are: Why the respect for Aaron? Do you figure him for a he-she?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 17:25:01 (EDT)

My two cents are: Aaron, I respectfully must say that the Iwo Jima statue is not in Washington. Rather it is in Ft. Meyers, Virginia. Be that as it may, I hope they build something. I've about had it up to here with the "tribute in light" whose twin beams have been belching photons into the upper atmosphere unchecked.
Glint
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 17:16:44 (EDT)

My two cents are: Hmm. You should have gotten it. Just sent it again.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 17:16:32 (EDT)

My two cents are: Forget the chair, what about toilet paper? Have you ever smelled their hands? And don't get me started with their foot washing. Right up there with other sink atrocities like the Oval Office.
bl@ck h0l3 5p33k5
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 17:12:28 (EDT)

My two cents are: Never did get that URL
Anonymous. <[email protected]>
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 17:04:13 (EDT)

My two cents are: Ann Coulter is all hung up on chairs. If she had any brains, she would point out that the Moslems don't even have the goddamn SPOON! They eat by fisting chunks out of a communal pot! Jeez that bimbo has gone down hill since the impeachment.
Revilo Oliver
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 16:43:43 (EDT)

My two cents are: Did you know that in Paris, France, in the city itself, it is against the law to build anything over seven stories high? What a gutless witless bunch of pansies! No wonder they all wear berets like a bunch of sissy Sunday-school teachers! I say, stick it up at least 80 stories and give the Moslem religion something to shoot at. The bastards who don't believe in creating and never even invented the chair, and don't much like even the stool. They probably don't even have one of those one-legged walking-cane seats that rich guys take to the horse races. They probably don't even have the stadium pillow. Sick bastards! Lousy Moslems!
go Ann go!
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 16:40:30 (EDT)

My two cents are: This is exactly what Ann Coulter was trying to explain! Look at the eskimo: how brave and witty do you have to be to build a goddamn igloo? No wonder those yahoos never invented the refrigerator or the beach-ball. I'd like to build a sky-scraper on every one of their cowardly graves!
Ogden Slivovitz, Jr.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 16:34:59 (EDT)

My two cents are: I like your theory of architecture criticism by reference to guts and wits Aaron! Wouldn't you agree with me that the Pyramids of Egypt were lacking in wit, let brave as a pride of lions? And the Eiffel Tower, what a cowardly structure, yet sophisticated and witty as Kate Harris or Jenna Bush. Yet in my opinion, either structure would be improved by a statue of four or five bruised men in floppy clothes raising a flag. Don't you agree?
Terry Stott, AA
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 16:32:13 (EDT)

My two cents are: Pete isn't very smart, is he? Or am I missing some sort of running joke?
Gary
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 16:25:10 (EDT)

My two cents are: The 2 towers will be rebuilt, the same height as before, and with a statue between them, like the Iwo Jima statue in Washington, but depicting the scene of the firefighters hoisting the flag. That's what I think should happen, anyway. Those weasels that think we should build four or five towers about 50 stories tall are a bunch of gutless halfwits. Rudy Guilliani promised that the skyline would be restored, and I bet the City of New York will be pressured into it enough by the people to rebuild the towers just as they were before.
Aaron
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 16:24:32 (EDT)

My two cents are: Hey, at least they didn't argue that Clinton by God did too get defrocked by the Arkansas jack-leg law conference, no matter what you didn't say to the contrary.
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- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 16:24:09 (EDT)

My two cents are: The Supremes? Does that mean the people who argued that if the votes were counted and Bush lost the election, it would tend to "cast a cloud" on the Bush presidency? Those Supremes? The (ahem) Supreme Court majority?
House of Meat
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 16:20:58 (EDT)

My two cents are: No Pete, I didn't fall into a black hole, and analyzing your queries took no more than a second each. What takes so long is getting drunk enough to convince myself that I can say something about them that doesn't make you look like the utterly ignorant fool you are.
Gimpse
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 16:17:07 (EDT)

My two cents are: Oy Vay!
Tyson
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 16:15:45 (EDT)

My two cents are: Meatloaf, you forgot the Supremes too. Finger lickin good! Doink.
Pete�
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 16:15:30 (EDT)

My two cents are: No, the chair is reserved for socialsit criminals. Zap!
Pete�
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 16:14:28 (EDT)

My two cents are: I'm going to slink off now, badly burned by the assertion that Bill Glinton was given the bum's rush by the Committee of Arkansas Rube Lawyers. Let me know when it's safe to come out.
House of Ostrich Meat
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 16:13:18 (EDT)

My two cents are: I can't believe that Ann Coulter doesn't want to preserve untrammeled the site where one piece of steel beam fell down so that it was at damn near right angles to another beam, proving that there is indeed a God and Jesus is his Son. A tough steelworker blubbered like Dan Rather in front of that steel cross for what he claimed was forty minutes. Is this not still hallowed ground? Doth Ann forget so easily? Is she burying it in the back pages just as did the evil New York Times? What the hell goeth on?
Ann? Annie? Baby?
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 16:00:27 (EDT)

My two cents are: Do the Buddhists have the chair? If the Buddhists don't have it, do the followers of Confucious? How about the Eastern Orthodox?
curious religion major
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 15:55:22 (EDT)

My two cents are: Doink?
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- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 15:53:50 (EDT)

My two cents are: I think Ann's point is that building a skyscraper right where Mohammed Atta died would be a bitchin' rat-fuck. This is something guaranteed to receive policy approval from Little Bush.
go Ann go
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 15:53:05 (EDT)

My two cents are: Ann Coulter can proudly assume that she is a member of the religion that invented the chair.
go Ann go
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 15:51:07 (EDT)

My two cents are: Looks like Meatloaf got burned in the oven. Doink.
Pete�
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 15:49:50 (EDT)

My two cents are: Pineapple, who ever said Clinton wasn't disbarred by the Arkansas disbarring committee, and can't be an Arkie lawyer any more? Is this another example of your procedural acumen, slyly respond to a charge that was never made? You really do lack any moral standards, don't you, punk? You really are one poor, pitiful, dishonest asshole.
House of Meat
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 15:45:56 (EDT)

My two cents are: In his immense book "The Creators," historian Daniel Boorstin explains the Islamic approach to innovation. While Judaism and Christianity begin with the Creation, Islam reveres a God who creates nothing. It is a central tenet of Islam that God did not even create the Koran. According to Boorstin, mullahs explain that since "the speech of God is uncreate, the words must be eternal uncreate." The world comes into being not by God's energy and initiative, but by fiat. As Boorstin says: "For a believing Muslim, to create is a rash and dangerous act." And we wonder why they don't have chairs.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 15:41:52 (EDT)

My two cents are: Ah, the truth will set you free.
Pete�
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 15:36:26 (EDT)

My two cents are: Build Them Back! Universal Press Syndicate | June 6, 2002 By Ann Coulter SINCE SEPT. 11, we have been authoritatively informed that buildings as tall as the World Trade Center will never be built again. A "consensus" quickly emerged among city officials to replace the soaring Twin Towers with some potty-little buildings and a park. But at a meeting to discuss the future of the site last week, hundreds of New Yorkers showed up and shocked the experts by demanding that the towers be rebuilt. One man, who worked on the 77th floor of 1 World Trade Center, said: "Please do not diminish the memory of all of the people who died there by building 50-, 60- or 70-story mediocre buildings on the site." A little grassy park where people go to weep does lack something in the way of defiance. Instead of us crying, evidently many Americans feel there should be a lot of Arabs crying. The reason liberals prefer a park to luminous skyscrapers is that they are not angry. Liberals express sympathy for the victims, but they're not angry at the terrorists. Instead of longing to crush and humiliate the enemy, they believe true patriotism consists of redoubled efforts to expand the welfare state. Sen. Hillary Clinton proposed a school for the site and Sen. Charles Schumer, a park. That'll show 'em! Meanwhile, the construction workers clearing away the rubble vowed they would work without pay to rebuild the World Trade Center. Of course, now that we have 14 cows, that shouldn't be necessary. (In one of the most genuinely touching stories since Sept. 11, a tiny cow-herding village in Kenya that only recently got word of the attack on America made a special present of 14 cows to the United States this week.) The attack on the World Trade Center ripped America's soul not only for the thousands of lives it consumed. Even if the towers had been empty, the destruction of those buildings would have been heart wrenching. Skyscrapers are the hallmark of civilization. They are monuments to human brilliance and creativity. I'm sure there are some nice trees, but I note that no one ever talks about the "heavenly suburb." Philosopher Jacques Ellul said cities exhibit "all the hopes of man for divinity." St. Augustine said the "house of God is itself a city." There have been many unsubstantiated assertions that no one would rent property in a rebuilt World Trade Center. But if fear of another terrorist attack were a major factor in New Yorkers' decisional calculus, they wouldn't be living in New York. The military has the technology to make the buildings safe from incoming missiles. Sept. 11 was a sucker punch. That particular trick doesn't work twice. Moreover, this argument neglects to consider that by the time a new World Trade Center is built, Arabs will be about as threatening as the Japanese. Who would have imagined after Pearl Harbor that the Japanese were governable? Yet Japan hasn't shown a disposition to fight in 60 years. It is the rare individual who does not succumb to horrendous physical pain. Muslims feel humiliated now? We'll show them humiliated. Aesthetes complain that the buildings were ugly. Perhaps. But the important thing is, they were really big. There can be a new design, but whatever goes up on that site has got to be bigger and better than the buildings the savages destroyed. Erecting enormous buildings to replace the Twin Towers limns the distinction between us and the barbarians. We can ride elevators a quarter-mile into the sky and have dinner. What can they do? Multimillionaire Osama bin Laden lived in a cave (and is dead, under a daisy-cutter). Here in America, ordinary Americans consider 70-story buildings "mediocre." As Donald Rumsfeld said of al-Qaeda, their specialty is "destroying things they could never have built themselves using technologies they never could have developed themselves." The urge to destroy may not come from Islam, but creation is not Islam's strong suit either. In his immense book "The Creators," historian Daniel Boorstin explains the Islamic approach to innovation. While Judaism and Christianity begin with the Creation, Islam reveres a God who creates nothing. It is a central tenet of Islam that God did not even create the Koran. According to Boorstin, mullahs explain that since "the speech of God is uncreate, the words must be eternal uncreate." The world comes into being not by God's energy and initiative, but by fiat. As Boorstin says: "For a believing Muslim, to create is a rash and dangerous act." And we wonder why they don't have chairs. Not surprisingly, Mohamed Atta loathed skyscrapers. Newsweek reported that he viewed the emergence of tall buildings in Egypt as an odious surrender to Western values. The most fitting memorial to the victims of the World Trade Center attack is to build the most breathtaking skyscraper in the world on top of Mohamed Atta's grave.
go anne go
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 15:36:05 (EDT)

My two cents are: No, Meat, Clit-on was disbarred for lying under oath in the Paula Jones case. Yes, important stuff. Except to a lying liberal. // Glint, did you fall into that Black Hole trying to analyze my queries? Hmmm ...
Pete�
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 15:30:31 (EDT)

My two cents are: Yeah, but he went AWOL anyway. Something about crack cocaine and the syphillus cure.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 14:35:21 (EDT)

My two cents are: Why was it fake? Because they were phasing out the obsolete F-104s and Bush knew he would never have to fly in combat unless the Symbionese Liberation Air Force attacked Texas?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 14:33:28 (EDT)

My two cents are: Well, you can go AWOL from fake military service during wartime.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 14:18:11 (EDT)

My two cents are: I don't know about that. Her character looked pretty bad when people thought she had romped in a motel room with the governor of Arkansas. How low can you go?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 14:08:00 (EDT)

My two cents are: Bull-crap. Paula Jones' reputation was somewhat commendable before the lawsuit and the payoff and it was somewhat commendable after the lawsuit and the payoff. There isn't a man in America who wouldn't agree that this is a somewhat commendable woman. So what has it all boiled down to, for Paula? Was it worth it? Was the nose job, which took a somewhat commendable nose and made it into a somewhat commendable nose, worthe it? Ponder that, fornigate.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 14:03:49 (EDT)

My two cents are: At least the character of Paula Jones and her reputation has been salvaged.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 13:55:58 (EDT)

My two cents are: So Little Bush lied under oath. Big whoop. Clarence Thomas lied under oath. John Ashcroft lied under oath. George Bush lied under Oath of Office. They all lie under oath. Oath means nothing to these guys. It should mean nothing to you.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 13:52:47 (EDT)

My two cents are: http://uspolitics.about.com/library/weekly/aa012301a.htm
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 13:51:47 (EDT)

My two cents are: Ann Coulter has finally lived up to the ideals of newsgathering, and has broken a news story. The inside scoop is that Osama bin is dead under a daisy cutter. No corroborating evidence is presented, but hey, it must be there. Her other great idea for the week is to rebuild the World Trade Center to spec, because it will be an insult to the memory of Mohammed Atta. He's apparently one of the airplane hijackers, so we should insult his memory as much as we can, even if it takes building the world's tallest buildings. Good job, Ann. Somewhat commendable.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 13:45:51 (EDT)

My two cents are: Did Bush lie under oath in funeral home case? An SCI attorney says the Texas governor talked to him about a state agency investigation, contradicting Bush's affidavit in the case. - - - - - - - - - - - - By Robert Bryce and Anthony York A sworn affidavit by Texas Gov. George W. Bush insisting he had no discussions about a state investigation into a political contributor's funeral home business has been contradicted by the company's own lawyer. Bush had been subpoenaed by attorneys for Eliza May, the former executive director of the Texas Funeral Service Commission, which had been investigating Service Corporation International of Houston, the world's largest funeral company, whose chief executive, Robert Waltrip, is a close political ally of the Bush family. May, who was fired in February, is suing SCI, Waltrip and the state of Texas, alleging that Bush and other state officials pressured her agency to stop the investigation. The Texas governor and front-runner for the GOP presidential nomination sought to avoid testifying in the case by filing an affidavit swearing he "had no conversations with [SCI] officials, agents, or representatives concerning the investigation or any dispute arising from it." The affidavit also stated that Bush never spoke with the Texas Funeral Service Commission about the investigation, and that Bush had "no personal knowledge of relevant facts of the investigation nor do I have any personal knowledge of relevant facts concerning any dispute arising from this investigation." But in a forthcoming story by Newsweek reporter Michael Isikoff, Johnnie B. Rogers, attorney for SCI, said he and Waltrip met with Bush's chief of staff and campaign manager, Joe Allbaugh, on April 15 to hand deliver a letter demanding an end to the investigation. Bush stuck his head into the meeting, Rogers told Isikoff, and said, "Hey Bobby, are those people still messing with you?" When Waltrip indicated that they were, Bush asked Rogers, "Hey, Johnnie B. Are you taking care of him?" Rogers replied, "I'm doing my best, Governor." Rogers' story appears to contradict Bush's statement that he has "had no conversations with SCI officials, agents or representatives" about the state's investigation. Bush press secretary Linda Edwards told Isikoff that Bush and Waltrip had a "brief verbal exchange," though "they did not discuss the case." May's attorneys believe the controversy should intensify the call for Bush to testify. "Obviously the statement of Johnnie B. Rogers in Newsweek indicates that [Bush] knew more than he's letting on about this case," said May's attorney, Derek Howard. "This is all the more reason to have him deposed." May's lawsuit alleges she was fired because her department's investigation got too close to discovering illegal embalming practices by SCI. Bush has received $35,000 in campaign contributions since 1996 from SCI's political action committee, and Waltrip is an old friend and benefactor of the Bush family. A hearing has been set for Aug. 30 in the Travis County Courthouse in Austin to decide if Bush must testify in the case. The funeral home flap presents the first real test for Bush's high-flying presidential campaign. Earlier stories about his draft status seem to have fallen by the wayside, and the persistent rumors about his rambunctious youth have proven to be nothing more than gossip to date. But these allegations represent something different. It can't be good news to the Bush campaign that Isikoff, the reporter who first dug up the name Monica Lewinsky, is on the case. The word around Austin is that "60 Minutes" is beginning to get interested in the story. Meanwhile, the silence out of Austin is deafening. The normally gregarious Rogers has apparently been muzzled, and is not speaking to the media. He told Salon News that all questions about the matter should be referred to SCI spokesman Bill Miller. Neither Bush's campaign press team nor his gubernatorial press office returned numerous calls seeking comment. salon.com | Aug. 9, 1999 This story is old, but bears repeating in light of Enron and other "out of the loop" excuses.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 13:43:14 (EDT)

My two cents are: Well, there were plenty of (ahem) spurious issues for trial. Don't be such a perfectionist about it.
Kenneth Starr
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 13:32:54 (EDT)

My two cents are: Blow as in sexual relations.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 13:32:11 (EDT)

My two cents are: Gosh, if there were no genuine issues for trial, why did they sue him? Sounds pretty pea-brained to me. What's the point of suing a guy if you know there are no genuine issues for trial?
curious Tampa grandmother
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 13:31:05 (EDT)

My two cents are: I wish there were someone around this site who knew a little law and could explain whether it is possible to commit perjury in testimony deemed immaterial to a case where the judge "finds that there are no genuine issues for trial." I wish there were someone wise enough to determine whether saying a blow-job isn't sexual relations is as bad as harrassing people with suits where there are no genuine issues for trial. If Glint were a para-legal instead of an amateur astronomer we could probably get the straight skinny on this. As it is, we will have to ever wonder.
House of Meat
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 13:29:08 (EDT)

My two cents are: This will be a lynching! I refuse to participate!
Clarence Thomas
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 13:20:23 (EDT)

My two cents are: Does this mean that any citizen can lip the presidential* iron, and only the eight wise ones and the token splib can be disbarred for saying they didn't?
curious Tampa grandmother
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 13:19:18 (EDT)

My two cents are: I'm surprised that Ken Starr went on 20/20 and said he was engaged in something more than a withch hunt. I thought the man had a little more integrity than that.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 13:16:11 (EDT)

My two cents are: If he brings an X-ray eyepiece he can use the telescope to investigate what's inside those gourds which I suspect have been hollowed out.
Glint
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 13:09:32 (EDT)

My two cents are: Kenneth Starr gets a free pass to the observatory anytime he wants to come by.
Glint
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 12:57:14 (EDT)

My two cents are: Back in the day of the founding fathers, defendants weren't put under oath, because it was assumed they would present only their own angle on a dispute. We have advanced since then, fortunately, and it is now possible to hang a bogus perjury charge on just about anybody, if it is necessary to protect the purity of our interns' lips.
Kenneth Starr
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 12:38:27 (EDT)

My two cents are: Back in the day of the founding fathers, defendants weren't put under oath because it was acknowledged that they would properly present only their angle. Fortunately, we have advance since those days, and now it is much easier to entrap some poor sap on a bogus perjury charge if we need to for the purity of our interns' lips.
Kenneth
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 12:35:45 (EDT)

My two cents are: Perjury? What perjury? None in this case. However, there are plenty of great reasons for perjury, if it ever comes down to that. In this case, it didn't. End of story, 'nuff said. Let's roll.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 12:31:45 (EDT)

My two cents are: Will somebody please blow W so we can get on with the impeachment.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 12:16:12 (EDT)

My two cents are: Never was about sex, it's the lying. In an interview that aired Wednesday night on ABC's "20/20" program -- the first he has given since sending an impeachment referral to Congress in September -- Starr rejected charges that the case against Clinton is primarily about sex and that he has acted like a modern-day Puritan in his investigation. "I was assigned to do a job by the attorney general, and that was to find out whether crimes were committed in this (Paula Jones) sexual harassment lawsuit," Starr said. "The whole idea of equal justice under law means that you've got to play by the rules. It has nothing to do with the underlying subject matter. You just tell the truth. "Lying under oath, and encouraging lies under oath, does go to the very heart and soul of what courts do. And if we say we don't care, let's forget about courts and we'll just have other ways of figuring out how to handle disputes," he said. "There is no excuse for perjury -- never, never, never," he said. "There is truth, and the truth demands respect." http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1998/11/25/starr.sawyer/
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 12:14:43 (EDT)

My two cents are: Excuse me, but I'll give the medical advice here. If the good Anonymous gets a blow from the C. in C. then must we can rush in with Q-tip in each hand and search for evidence. If any runny, sticky, or crusty flakey scratchy residue that's all nasty and icky is found we can stick a needle in him and draw blood. And if the DNA matches we will have no other choice but to impeach Anonymous and send him packing off to Britos to join the others of its kind.
Dr. J
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 12:12:11 (EDT)

My two cents are: Dear Paula: We wanted to put to paper the substance of our discussions with you on Saturday and Sunday, so you would be able to further consider our strong settlement recommendation. We presented, by facsimile telephone with you and Steve on Saturday, August 16, 1997, a proposed Stipulation of Settlement which was hammered out in lengthy and difficult negotiations with counsel for defendant Clinton. We firmly believe it is the best we can ever obtain, and that delay in acceptance will be very harmful to your interests. In fact, there is great pressure in the White House urging Clinton not to pay the amount sued for, and a strong possibility that the offer will in the near future, be withdrawn. We sent to you a copy of this proposed agreement which, we are told is now acceptable to the attorneys and advisors of the President and which we believe will be accepted by the two defendants and the insurance companies, subject first to the communication by us to them of your approval of the proposed settlement. We recommended to you the acceptance of this settlement. We further told you that it is a complete victory for the interests you seek which are the redemption of your character and reputation. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/pjones/docs/jonesletters061998.htm
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 12:08:11 (EDT)

My two cents are: Thanks for the cron.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 12:06:39 (EDT)

My two cents are: Moot point. Snippy was not elected. He works only for the Supreme Court.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 12:05:52 (EDT)

My two cents are: I knew that explaining it would cause you Liberals to imediately seek the route of least resistance for the quickest BJ possible. You are responding well, patients.
Glint
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 12:05:50 (EDT)

My two cents are: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/03/06/politics/main503121.shtml
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 12:04:38 (EDT)

My two cents are: According to Glint, I'm Snippy's commander-in-chief. If i ask him to blow me, and he refuses, am I a sexual harrasser or is he being insubordinate?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 12:03:38 (EDT)

My two cents are: In December 1998, the United States House of Representatives impeached Clinton for perjury and obstruction of justice. The charges developed out of Clinton's efforts to conceal an improper sexual relationship. The House sent its findings to the Senate, which conducted a trial. The Senate found Clinton not guilty.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 12:01:50 (EDT)

My two cents are: It was not a ruling that anyone expected. More than four years after Paula Jones filed her sexual harassment suit against President Bill Clinton, the federal judge Susan Wright Webber dismissed the case, saying that it did not meet the legal standard for sexual harassment. In her strongly worded ruling, Judge Webber Wright wrote: "The plaintiff's allegations all short of the rigorous standards for establishing a claim of outrage under Arkansas law. "Reduced to its essence, the record taken as a whole, could not lead a rational jury of fact to find for a non-moving party and the court therefore finds that there are no genuine issues for trial in this case."
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 11:59:52 (EDT)

My two cents are: President Bush dismissed a report put out by his administration warning that human activities are behind climate change that is having significant effects on the environment.
it's my party and I'll play like I want to
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 11:51:22 (EDT)

My two cents are: I wouldn't want to be a member of any state bar that would approve me as a member. Rather just travel the world shooting off my mouth for $300,000/hour, sampling exotic pussy, and rolling in the long green.
Humiliated
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 11:44:04 (EDT)

My two cents are: The final verdict, anonymous, was rendered by a committee of the Arkansas Supreme Court-- the one charged with determining if guys have the character necessary to be Arkie lawyers. Please learn the rudiments of presidential history, asshole.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 11:41:25 (EDT)

My two cents are: So, in other words, any time Paula sees an (ewww, ahem) angle iron it's on the job harassment. Provided the prong belongs to a citizen, that is? Makes as much sense as the idea that Clinton was her supervisor and therefore open to some sort of weird perversion of the harassment rules (ahem.)
.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 11:39:00 (EDT)

My two cents are: "...isn't the governor the boss of every permanent resident of a state?" - Homer. An exquisite example of the Liberal view. The people work for the government, not the other way around. No, Paula Jones was an employee of the people, as was her boss, BJ (kiss it) Clinton.
Glint
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 11:35:45 (EDT)

My two cents are: Is that your cron on what the meaning of is is, Glump? Why not just sing "Sunny from Sunray" and take a bow? You say the subject is time, so don't stray from it? (Ahem.) You seem to be going in great circles. Your major mistake is to take a perfectly reasonable bit of hall monitoring, the mistake of equating seconds with nautical miles rather than minutes, and you try to wing it 60 times farther than it wants to go. Let's try to reduce Pete's confusion rather than add to it, shall we? Let's just tell him, without the niggling details, that the Earth spins around once a day like a great big clock, and that it revolves around the sun while the moon revolves around it in a year an an approximate month, like a great big calendar.
somewhat disappointed
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 11:31:34 (EDT)

My two cents are: This Pete is a whiz. Even Ken Starr never synthesized this whole scandal into a simple case of sexual harrassment. Doink.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 11:28:47 (EDT)

My two cents are: Can't Paula Jones blow whoever she wants? Or does she have to exclude all state employees who can keyboard better than herself?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 11:26:42 (EDT)

My two cents are: Paula Jones was on the job when she viewed the massive angle iron? OK, this is serious. Clit-on was her boss, as Governor of Arkansas. In fact, isn't the governor the boss of every permanent resident of a state? He's screwed if he flashes any bimbo resident, but then if he goes for non-residents the Mann Act will get him, crossing state lines for white slavery. Catch-22, baby. I love these legal discussions, especially when a knowledgeable paralegal is present and willing to illuminate some of the obscure corners. Especially important when you need someone to explain that slavery isn't mentioned in the Constitution, sort of.
House of Meat
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 11:21:53 (EDT)

My two cents are: Thanks for cron-ing, Glint.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 11:21:45 (EDT)

My two cents are: "Clocks start with days and merely divide them into hours, minutes, and seconds, your second being a nautical mile on the equator ..." - Meat. Commendable try, but one minor correction. Or maybe two or perhaps three. A natical mile is one minute - not second - of arc. Otherwise, we would be living on a planet whose circumference of 1,296,000 nautical miles. Sure, the bonus miles would rack up, but the flights themselves would be rather boring and measured in days and weeks, stopping for fuel every several hours and then taking off again. Next, you are confusing the nautical mile with the geographic mile, whose definition requires involves the equator. The nautical mile is a minute of arc of any great circle, of which the equator is only one of an infinite number. Like Clinton you are legally correct but you still shouldn't limit yourself to a single great circle. Sure, the earth isn't perfectly round, so not all great circles are equal, so we can let it slide this time. Third, this standard unit of a nautical mile is a measure of distance, not time - which is the subject of the conversation. The earth does not turn one arc second every second. The rate is more like 142 arc seconds of longitude per second of time (1,296,000 arc seconds / 86,400 seconds). About the only place where arcseconds translate into time is the rotation of the celestial sphere. It is divided into 24 hours of Right Ascension, which is further divided into 60 arc minutes, each of which is divided into 60 arc seconds. Maybe this is what you meant when you were talking about hours, minutes, and seconds on the equator. Perhaps you meant the celestial equator, but then your discussion of nautical miles would be irrelevant. Note that the tropical day of 24 hours is longer than the sidereal day of 23:56. The latter is the true rotation rate of the earth - the time it takes to revolve 360 degrees. The four minute difference is what leads to the "slippage" of stars posted at 00:17:28 and is what causes the stars to vary by season.
Glint
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 11:18:56 (EDT)

My two cents are: Mail call (ahem.)
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 11:18:42 (EDT)

My two cents are: Perfect play on words. Clinton, Clit-on. You take the normal sounding name of a guy you hate and substitute either a dirty word or the name of a disgusting body part. No need to bother if the name is already Bush or Dick.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 11:16:55 (EDT)

My two cents are: Anyone got any good URLs?
House of Meat <[email protected]>
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 11:16:02 (EDT)

My two cents are: Ewwwww! Clit! Every time I think about the last elected President I think not only of his pencil pud bumping the lectern, but also of awful squishy ishy clitoris! Eww, eww, eww, ewwie! Stinky awful gushy Clit-on! Eww!
oog, can't stand to think of it
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 11:13:56 (EDT)

My two cents are: Whew! I thought I was the only one who didn't get "cron."
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 11:11:10 (EDT)

My two cents are: Wait... are we talking about felonies like perjury, obstruction of justice and hindering an investigation or about weaseling on who sucked you off? If Clit-on really committed the felony of hindering Starr's investigation, shouldn't he be behind bars instead of happily sniffing every crotch in Indonesia and rolling in hundred-dollar bills?
curious Tampa
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 11:10:28 (EDT)

My two cents are: I have no problem with vetting a guy's sexual practices if he's going to be our commander-in-chief. Good way to determine character if you ask me. We look at their income tax returns, don't we? We check to see if they bother to vote or not (Dick Cheney.) What's the big deal about asking a few tricky questions about screwing?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 11:09:31 (EDT)

My two cents are: What means "cron?" Also, did they really say "gather status?" If so, how did you figure out what they meant? Somewhat commendable intuition?
.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 11:05:32 (EDT)

My two cents are: I like (ahem) Pete's line about proving character by checking out porking practices. It's so (ahem) medievil! Almost too perfect troglodytism. Prove character. Talk about para-legalisms!
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 11:03:01 (EDT)

My two cents are: You've been "tasked?" That must hurt.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 10:45:37 (EDT)

My two cents are: I've been tasked with gathering status and posting a daily report, sort of like a newsletter. I've cron'd an e-mail that prods people for status at 9a each day. Here is one of the more pleasant responses that has come back: "I wish I could cron my responses to you. If I could they would say All Targets Met. All Systems Working. All Customers Satisfied. All Staff Enthusiastic. All Pigs Fed And Ready To Fly. But instead: Datalink has been down sporadically since 10:30 p.m. Data provider has diagnosed the problem as T3 line down, which is affecting our site as well as many others. It has been escalated to the highest level."
Glint
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 10:43:24 (EDT)

My two cents are: A military man, eh? Glint digs soldiers. Dead soldiers.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 10:26:37 (EDT)

My two cents are: Who is this Pete fellow and why is he always making eyes at Glint? As a retired military man, I feel that I should have first crack at the astronomer.
Gary
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 09:11:36 (EDT)

My two cents are: Legend for the liberally imparied: employee on the Job is Paula Jones. Federal employee on the job is Moan-ick-a. A couple of black holes. Doink.
Pete�
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 04:34:57 (EDT)

My two cents are: Yes, it is amazing how simple things like sex did lead to things like a sexual harrassment lawsuit by an employee on the job (not such a simple thing to the feminists, I thought), or felonies like perjury, obstruction of justice and hindering an investigation just to cover up such a trifling indiscretion with a federal employee on the job. Gee, wonder why those laws are on the books and the federal sentencing guidelines suggest sentences equal to statutory rape for violations? Gee, maybe they are not too important to a liberal, when one of their own gets clicked with its fingers in the cookie jar? Maybe the Arkansas Supreme Court really didn't disbar ole Clit-on for lying under oath. Sounds kinda serious to me (ahem).
Pete�
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 04:33:07 (EDT)

My two cents are: Astounding how meaningful that sexual encounter with the intern was. It surely warranted all the money spent on the investigation. It must have been the serial part. One-timers seem to escape the flings and arrows.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 03:58:09 (EDT)

My two cents are: Yes, Hank, when he lies under oath about it, obstructs justice and interferes with an ongoing investigation. You bet that is impeachable. Also relevant in a sexual harrassment lawsuit to prove character, in this case a serial adulterer.
Pete�
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 03:37:16 (EDT)

My two cents are: For the tea of course.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 03:30:24 (EDT)

My two cents are: Check. Ice cubes, right? (ahem)...(cough, cough)... (ahem)...(snort)...
.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 03:22:03 (EDT)

My two cents are: (ahem)...Isn't it astounding that a volcano in the middle of the ocean turns out to be a volcano in the middle of the ocean when you drill into it?
(cough, cough)
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 03:20:16 (EDT)

My two cents are: Very hot here, anonymous. Know exactly how to remedy that.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 03:18:52 (EDT)

My two cents are: "Ahem." Only a somewhat commendable intuition could figure out how to enliven a post with a bunch of them, all in parentheses! We (ahem) have such a somewhat commendable intuition right here on this site, folks (ahem)...
(cough. cough)
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 03:18:07 (EDT)

My two cents are: If Bill Clinton has sex, and Kenneth Starr is not there to evaluate the semen, is he still impeachable?
Hank Hyde, old yet still youthful
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 03:14:46 (EDT)

My two cents are: Yes, Plato. Laws of Romance -326. Talk about a Black Hole (ahem) ... where one's infinite mass disappears (ahem) ... at elast as quickly as the speed of light (ahem) ...
Pete�
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 03:14:35 (EDT)

My two cents are: Jun 5, 2002 Scientists in Hawaii Suspect Huge Volcanic Eruption 2 Million Years Ago The Associated Press HONOLULU (AP) - Scientists drilling into the ocean floor say they have found the first evidence of a giant volcanic eruption 2 million years ago when a landslide removed half of what was then Oahu. The discovery by 15 scientists on the multinational Ocean Drilling Program expedition was reported this week by the Joint Oceanographic Institutions of Washington, D.C., which manages the program. The expedition was drilling a hole more than 180 miles northeast of Oahu in December when two layers of material were found that had blasted out to sea at temperatures of nearly 400 degrees, said Ralph Stephen, co-chief scientist of the project. "This event was not merely a landslide but a hot explosion," said Ralph Stephen, co-chief scientist of the project. "The same process could happen again to the Big Island." Volcanoes along the Hawaiian and Canary chains have been so steep that large segments collapse into huge landslides onto the ocean floor. Under normal conditions volcanic magma is held in place, but when a landslide removes it, explosions can send the hot magma into the air, Stephen said. "The evidence indicates that this large landslide was associated with an explosive event similar to the Mount St. Helens' eruption in Washington state in 1980, but was an order of magnitude larger," he said. The hole being drilled eventually will house a deep-sea observatory with seismic and other geophysical, geochemical and microbiological monitoring devices.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 03:13:23 (EDT)

My two cents are: If a man expresses an opinion, and his wife is not there to hear it, is he still wrong?
Plato
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 03:11:21 (EDT)

My two cents are: Clap.
One Hand
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 03:07:00 (EDT)

My two cents are: One man's somewhat commendable intuition is another man's shitty intuition.
.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 03:06:36 (EDT)

My two cents are: EXACTLY like Santa Claus delivering presents to every house at the speed of light! Is this guy's intuition somewhat commendable or what? And Pope would still be happy! God-DAMN that's somewhat commendable intuition!
appreciative observer
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 03:03:24 (EDT)

My two cents are: 02:20 sounds like gnat to me ... or one of them ...
Pete�
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 03:00:21 (EDT)

My two cents are: A good general point of reference for time is your birthday. Then there's eighth grade graduation, the first roll in the hay, driver's license, high school, and so on. The day you die is another good one, but you're not going to be able to reference much to it. Stick with your birthday and you'll do OK.
House of Meat
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 02:59:45 (EDT)

My two cents are: So, Glint, are you saying a Black hole may be the opposite of infinite mass? How does this comport: "Since light speed is required to leave the spaceship would be inside forever" ... seems the spaceship loses matter and mass if allowed to enter the black hole and therefore becomes infinite or the opposite of infinity, which by itself either requires total mass or no mass, Roberto Duran aside. So, one could not truly be an infinite mass if it theoretically loses its volume in a black hole. It becomes something else. No longer an infinite mass or even a lot of mass (Pope would still be happy). Sort of like Santa Claus delievering presents to every household in the World at the speed of light ....
Pete�
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 02:57:22 (EDT)

My two cents are: The point is, Cliff's a cool cat. He's also a wit, and Jewish, did you know that? Hi, Fresno bug, if that's you.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 02:55:22 (EDT)

My two cents are: And the point is.....?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 02:49:56 (EDT)

My two cents are: GAY LOS ANGELES: Saturday---June 8th. From 12 to 6 pm. (Fun in the sun) Leathermen and Hairy Bears. YUM YUM!!!!!
CLIFFORD
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 02:33:13 (EDT)

My two cents are: Time is meaningless without a point of reference.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 02:20:56 (EDT)

My two cents are: Thanks for the brain-twister, Mr. Glans, but I'm sure we've all figured out by now that neither Pete nor Glint win the clock debate. Trouble with these modern fellows is they get a taste of philosophy or theoretical physics while working for the AA degree at San Pedro JC, and never slow down to check for reality forever afterward. They are egged on by television shows like X-files and Sister Cleo. There doesn't have to be anything heavy or mysterious about time-- it starts out measured in days, months, and years, which are real physical events, unrelated either to trees falling or not falling or to special or general relativity. Clocks start with days and merely divide them into hours, minutes, and seconds, your second being a nautical mile on the equator and your hour being 15 degrees of arc-- it's all quite mechanical and commonsensical, nothing arcane about it, unless, I suppose, you are a Sufi dervish or Louis Arrakhan or a haole who went a few wedgies past critical. Don't worry about these characters on here, these deep fellows-- they just somehow got stuck in the freshman dorms and never got out.
House of Meat
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 01:09:43 (EDT)

My two cents are: Oh, cut the Maryland Marauder some slack, anonymous. I find his star reports somewhat commendable. Notice how he never tries to seem more literate than the average exurban life insurance salesman. Somewhat commendable, indeed!
.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 00:57:39 (EDT)

My two cents are: Run, planet boy. Hide, planet dancer. Never face the music. Never tell the twins until you have to. Run and hide, cheat, prevaricate, slip and slide. You are Republicanism. We hear your roar.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 00:55:35 (EDT)

My two cents are: "Modern Dance of the Classical Planets Continues" (Sunday, June 2) June and July continue to be busy months for our neighboring worlds. The same five naked eye planets that entertained us with their western waltz in the evening twilight in April and May during their celestial roundup continue their dance while conjugating in pairs thee times in a one month period between June 3 and July 3. During each pairing, or conjunction, the participating planets will be at closest apparent proximity to each another on some specific date. However, to fully appreciate a conjunction one should keep an eye out on consecutive evenings, or mornings as the case may be, as they draw closer and closer together. Conjunctions require no optical equipment to be enjoyed. They are the kind of event whose sublime beauty has captured the appreciative eye as long as people have been walking on the earth. The naked eye is all that you need, although a pair of binoculars may help pick out the fainter planets in bright twilight. A small or medium sized telescope will also resolve the planets into round discs, and may reveal the phases of the inner planets Venus and Mercury. The first, and grandest of the triple conjunction involves the two brightest planets - the King and Queen - Jupiter and Venus. The royal couple will be only 1.6 degrees apart in the evening twilight on Monday, June 3. By 9:00 p.m. EDT the planets are unmistakable as they hover brightly low in the western sky 20 degrees above the horizon. You may recall that 10 degrees is the apparent width of your fist at the end of an outstretched arm. Therefore the planetary pair is two fists above the horizon. Venus is the brighter one. Jupiter will be to its lower left. If you looked the night before before on Sunday you would have noticed that Venus was below Jupiter. Both planets are on the opposite side of the sun from us at this time. However, in a small telescope you might be able to discern Venus' gibbous phase. Venus' disc appears a little less than full. As you keep watch over the next several nights observe how the planets begin to separate with Venus appearing to move higher. You may be impressed by the detectable motion. But actually, it isn't so much that Venus is rising, but rather Jupiter is sinking. One of the motions acting against Jupiter is the earth's orbital motion around the sun which causes the stars to set approximately four minutes earlier each night. This motion causes Jupiter to "slip" along with the stars. Although Venus is progressing eastward, the westward slip due to orbital motion give the illusion that Venus is standing still night after night with respect to the horizon. Indeed, over the next several nights Venus will be at the same altitude above the horizon as it was at the same time the night before. It's like watching a dog swimming upstream against the current. It's head appears motionless bobbing in the water. Keep your eye on Jupiter. Jupiter has another evening encounter with a different planet coming up in one month, as we'll see later. Now something for the early risers. The second conjunction, between the ringed world Saturn and the innermost planet Mercury, takes place on the morning of Tuesday, July 2. At their closest the two planets are less than a quarter of a degree apart. In the morning twilight at 5:00 a.m. EDT the two planets will be five degrees above the northeastern horizon. Thus, a horizon free of obstruction from trees, buildings, or hills is a plus. Both objects should be visible to the unaided eye and will be easy targets in binoculars. Due to their close proximity, they may also be visible in the same eyepiece field at fairly high telescopic magnifications. A telescope will easily show Saturn's rings. However, they will be distorted by earth's atmosphere due to Saturn's low elevation. High magnification might reveal Mercury's gibbous phase, but atmospheric distortion will make telescopic observation difficult. Despite their apparent proximity in the sky, the closeness of the pair is an optical illusion. That morning Mercury is 77 million miles from our planet. However, Saturn lies another 831 million miles beyond Mercury! It is geometry that makes the two appear to be close together in the sky. Now, back to Jupiter which has changed partners. On the following evening Jupiter and Mars are in conjunction only 0.8 degree apart on Wednesday, July 3. Mars is quite a bit fainter than Jupiter. According to Guy Ottwell's astronomical calendar Jupiter will outshine Mars by a factor of 27.5! You'll need a good unobstructed view of the northwestern horizon since Jupiter is only about three degrees up in the evening twilight at 9:00 p.m. EDT. Sweeping the horizon with a pair of binoculars will help spot the pair. Fainter Mars will be above and slightly to right of Jupiter. Because of their close apparent proximity both planets fit easily into the same low power eyepiece field of a small telescope. Hope that you've been enjoying the dance of the planets this Spring. I certainly have. The next good conjunction will be Venus and Mars in the morning sky in December
your sky report from The Times <Carroll County Times, that is>
- Thursday, June 06, 2002 at 00:17:28 (EDT)

My two cents are: Evelyn S. Lieberman, former undersecretary of state, head of the Voice of America and senior aide in the Clinton White House, has been named director of communications and public affairs at the Smithsonian Institution. It was Lieberman who, as deputy chief of staff, changed history by moving Monica S. Lewinsky out of the White House and over to Linda Tripp's waiting arms at the Pentagon. Lieberman recently helped Clinton set up shop in New York.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 23:58:44 (EDT)

My two cents are: So, if Pete's intuition is "somewhat commendable", does that earn him a silver star or a blue star? It should earn Glint the gold star, maybe two or three on the same space, because it's a great judgement for the Snippy era. I find his stern dealing with Fidel Castro, for example, to be "somewhat commendable." It's stupid and probably won't help Jeb much, but at least he's not nuking them. So, Pete's idiotic blathering about two absolutes being mutually exclusive, they either overlap or don't exist,is somewhat commendable for a fellow who hasn't taken his Thorazine, and even somewhater commendable if he has taken it, because I hear it zombies a guy and he can't think up even shit like talking about infinite mass requiring infinite space and relativity in the same paragraph. By the way, there were indeed tests to determine the smallest feasible nuclear bomb, to be used, for example as tactical nukes in the Long Tom, and perhaps even as sabotage nukes. I don't want to strain your clearences though, so don't leave anything in the pumpkin.
House of Meat
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 23:41:48 (EDT)

My two cents are: Yes. Of course.
Harlan St. Wolf
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 23:36:18 (EDT)

My two cents are: So, Pete's still an asshole, right?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 23:30:12 (EDT)

My two cents are: Couldn't have said it better myself.
Harlan St. Wolf
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 23:29:15 (EDT)

My two cents are: I admit that at first the infinite mass = infinite volume seemed unintuitive. After all, a black hole is a mass with no volume at all. No matte how much mass is in a black hole it has zero volume. However, there is such a thing as an event horizon 'round a black hole whose radius is the point at which the escape velocity is equivalent to the speed of light. For a solar sized black hole (if forming such a small massed black hole in a universe with such an advanced age as ours were somehow possible) it's event horizon might have a radius on the order of one mile. Stresses on one as they pass through are extreme. They wouldn't be squished like a bug necessarily, but they would get stretched into a thin strand of pasta. But the larger the mass of the black hole, the greater the gravity. The greater the gravity the larger the event horizon. Black holes with masses on the order of an entire galaxy may have an event horizon the size of our solar system. I've read that a spaceship may theoretically be able to slip into the event horizon of such a black hole with only minor tidal forces allowing the crew to survive as long as they could avoid entering the "singularity" - which is the scientific name for what is at the very cente of the black hole, the volumeless mass. Since light speed is required to leave the spaceship would be inside forever, and unable to communicate its findings. This is one of the reasons why NASA has not funded such a mission yet. Anyway, it sould seem that as the mass of a black hole approached infinity, the event horizon might also approach infinity, as per Pete. However, the actual black hole itself - the singularity - would continue to occupy no volume at all. So, Pete's intuitition is somewhat commendable. It's a simple question that seems simple - even simpleminded at first blush. But like Olbers Paradox, i.e. "Why is the sky dark at night?" the exploration of the question draws on numerous theories in order to comprehend.
Glint
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 23:23:41 (EDT)

My two cents are: Ah!! That's what makes it satire.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 23:09:58 (EDT)

My two cents are: The Holy Grail IS infinity? Doesn't that have something to do with Monte Python? And didn't Monte Python do a skit where the running gag punchline was "Burrrrrnnnn Herrrrr?" And, this is where it gets fuzzy, was there sonething else they did involving, let's see, a long rod, a dark tunnel, and a baited hook waiting to snag a foul mouth which might do just fine, in a pinch (ahem!)?
D1CK W33D
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 22:48:52 (EDT)

My two cents are: Meat, here's one for you while you're waiting for one winner or another to be declared in the clock debate: If a transvestite has its cock lopped off over a running garbage disposal by a deaf and dumb doctor and remains celebate, was the operation a success?
Dick Glans
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 22:31:46 (EDT)

My two cents are: "How many kilotons in the nuke? Let's say the least kilotonage theoretically possible, or the yield of the least powerful non-dud nuclear test." -HOM. Wasn't the nuke a simple "suitcase device" in the original question? Certainly their kiilotonnage is less than the largest underground detonations?
Glint
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 22:27:47 (EDT)

My two cents are: Well, I say, an infinite mass requires by definition an infinite space. Mutually exclusive. Two absolutes either overlap or do not exist.// So, time is a human invention to define a set or stated period? If so, how could space alter that independent of human perception and definition? Only by changing the definition, not the concept itself.
Pete�
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 22:24:21 (EDT)

My two cents are: "Also, how can an infinite mass move beyond infinity? If the mass is infinite, then it can't move anywhere because it already occupies that infinite space." - Pete. And since our back yard isn't occupied by an infinite mass, we can deduce that light speed travel is impossible. Otherwise, some civilization in some galaxy near or far would have pissed off everyone in the universe by throttling his hot rod up to light speed and squishing everything out of existence. But since we can look in the fridge and see that the 12 pack has an empty space where 10 bottles were earlier, thus light speed is impossible.
Glint
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 22:21:47 (EDT)

My two cents are: Pete, I guess by the same token you can ask, "If a tree falls in the forest and only rocks and othere trees are around to see it, does it make a sound or is sound an invention of mankind?" For that matter, rocks and trees don't really have eyes to see it, so does the tree really fall or not? <> If the tree falls, there is a change of state, and change is a function of time. If the falling tree doesn't really fall, because noone is around to see, hear, time it, or otherwise care, then what's the big deal? The univers has no self awareness in that case.
Glint
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 22:13:50 (EDT)

My two cents are: Many people in this state and around our nation give the President the greatest gift a President could receive, and that is prayer. And it's a -- it's not a Republican prayer, it's not a Democrat prayer. It's a prayer that's far greater than politics, and I know that. - Sayeth GW
prayers unto infinity
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 22:12:11 (EDT)

My two cents are: Yes, but you can always pull yourself out of it by reading about amphetimines and cocaine products.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 22:03:51 (EDT)

My two cents are: Reading about anti-depressants is kind of a down.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 21:20:22 (EDT)

My two cents are: The other possibility is he's terribly dissolutioned by Snippy's constant pandering to the left. The call for AmeriCorps probably cut pretty deep as it did for Dick Armey, a true retchied, a real Texan. Then there's the Ted Kennedy Education Bill that Snippy pimped. Now -geesh!- global warming. Last time Glump found himself defending Snip's liberalism, he was reduced to excusing it based on "reality" of the times. That's a tough one for a knee-jerker like Glump. It's like admitting Republicanism is based on fantasy and fairy tales. Which, of course, it is.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 20:53:43 (EDT)

My two cents are: AmeriCorps dodging and draft dodging are pretty much the same thing. Glump, along with every able-bodied American, was called by his president* to serve, and so far he has dodged the service. Has he even peeked out the window to see if anyone swarthy is driving by? And don't tell me that protecting his freehold from the neighbor's gourds counts as home defense. The whole thing sounds damned yellow to me. Riding high on a lawnmower squashing gourds is one thing. Driving into Baltimore and teaching some greasy old black guy to read is something entirely different, something that takes intestinal fortitude. Does Glump have it? If so, he sure hides it well.
Let's Roll �
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 20:46:16 (EDT)

My two cents are: Draft dodging is one thing. AmeriCorps dodging?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 20:29:51 (EDT)

My two cents are: So, you think we're maybe dealing with a real yellow-belly here? That would explain the draft dodging. It might explain a lot of things.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 20:10:28 (EDT)

My two cents are: Maybe he doesn't run and hide. Maybe he just seems like a chicken shit who takes a break when cornered. It's possible, you know, that his demons call and he must follow them. You know, the dark side, the hermaphro-pedo side. Ever wonder why such an apparent sicko often quotes scripture at length, studies sickos like Armstrong and can't bring himself to include the letter u in the word fuck? Maybe that's penance, his way of begging jesus for forgiveness. Maybe the breaks are more sinister than those of a mere yellow-belly.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 19:54:07 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 19:42:30 (EDT)

My two cents are: Hey, Glump, Pete says that an infinite mass can't move because it already occupies all the space. So presumably there's no place to go. Isn't Pete confusing mass and space? What does your physicist say, the one working up the airplane/bomb stats? Does infinite mass mean infinite space? If so, where is the gas tank? Is Pete some sort of idiot physics genius? An Isaac Newton who just happens to be entirely ignorant of mathematics and logic? Help me out here, Glunt, I'm losing sleep over this.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 19:42:09 (EDT)

My two cents are: Can you blame Glint? After all, that crap he was spouting about time and relativity was immediately put into question by Pete. No wonder he ran off and hid. He was getting it from the House of Meat on the one side and from the Shack of Pineapples on the other. Not many people who aren't even tough enough to sign up for AmeriCorp when the President calls are going to be tough enough to stick around and take that kind of abuse on a web site.
One of the few true remaining patriots
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 19:23:58 (EDT)

My two cents are: Come on! Glint is just a cautious guy who thinks things through. A guy who knows that only a physicist can say whether a suitcase nuke would destroy more of New York City than a 737 full of kerosene. Glint knows his limitations. Sure, he can explain relativity and the probability that Einstein was wrong because of clocks in space stations, but he isn't going to go out on a limb and say that a nuclear device could be as hazardous as an airplane crash.
Captain Science Book
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 19:19:58 (EDT)

My two cents are: Is Glint going to be in hiding until his shame at not facing up to Pete's bomb question stops burning so bad? Why doesn't Glint just face the music and answer the question, or say he won't answer because it would make Pete look even stupider and more pitiful, and hurt his feelings besides?
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- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 19:14:58 (EDT)

My two cents are: Alice reigns, unto infinity.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 19:14:09 (EDT)

My two cents are: Say what you will about the pineapple, he's no hermaphrodite-chaser.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 19:08:52 (EDT)

My two cents are: Pasting stuff from Lewis Carroll's sort of makes Pete feel like he's part of the In Crowd. Ho ha, he says to himself, that crazy king and that zany queen and those nurdly jurors! Me and Lewis Carroll are a couple of sophisticated dudes who see right through them! There is no straw stuck to Lewis Carroll's overhauls, and none stuck to the Pineapple's either! It's Pete's way of saying, look, fornigate, this is what the world is like, and I, Pete, am onto it! I am no peon, I did not fall off no pineapple wagon! Not me! I can even make up fag puns!
... the poor, pitiful asshole
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 19:06:41 (EDT)

My two cents are: I paste, therefore I think.
Corporal Doink
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 19:02:03 (EDT)

My two cents are: He thinks?
stop the presses!!
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 19:01:24 (EDT)

My two cents are: He really thinks he's back.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 18:47:48 (EDT)

My two cents are: `Hold your tongue!' said the Queen, turning purple. `I won't!' said Alice. `Off with her head!' the Queen shouted at the top of her voice. Nobody moved. `Who cares for you?' said Alice, (she had grown to her full size by this time.) `You're nothing but a pack of cards!' At this the whole pack rose up into the air, and came flying down upon her: she gave a little scream, half of fright and half of anger, and tried to beat them off, and found herself lying on the bank, with her head in the lap of her sister, who was gently brushing away some dead leaves that had fluttered down from the trees upon her face.
THE END <Doink!>
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 18:45:08 (EDT)

My two cents are: `Begin at the beginning,' the King said gravely, `and go on till you come to the end: then stop.' These were the verses the White Rabbit read:-- `They told me you had been to her, And mentioned me to him: She gave me a good character, But said I could not swim. He sent them word I had not gone (We know it to be true): If she should push the matter on, What would become of you? I gave her one, they gave him two, You gave us three or more; They all returned from him to you, Though they were mine before. If I or she should chance to be Involved in this affair, He trusts to you to set them free, Exactly as we were. My notion was that you had been (Before she had this fit) An obstacle that came between Him, and ourselves, and it. Don't let him know she liked them best, For this must ever be A secret, kept from all the rest, Between yourself and me.' `That's the most important piece of evidence we've heard yet,' said the King, rubbing his hands; `so now let the jury--'

- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 18:42:47 (EDT)

My two cents are: `What do you know about this business?' the King said to Alice. `Nothing,' said Alice. `Nothing WHATEVER?' persisted the King. `Nothing whatever,' said Alice. `That's very important,' the King said, turning to the jury. They were just beginning to write this down on their slates, when the White Rabbit interrupted: `UNimportant, your Majesty means, of course,' he said in a very respectful tone, but frowning and making faces at him as he spoke. `UNimportant, of course, I meant,' the King hastily said, and went on to himself in an undertone, `important--unimportant-- unimportant--important--' as if he were trying which word sounded best. Some of the jury wrote it down `important,' and some `unimportant.' Alice could see this, as she was near enough to look over their slates; `but it doesn't matter a bit,' she thought to herself. At this moment the King, who had been for some time busily writing in his note-book, cackled out `Silence!' and read out from his book, `Rule Forty-two. ALL PERSONS MORE THAN A MILE HIGH TO LEAVE THE COURT.' Everybody looked at Alice. `I'M not a mile high,' said Alice. `You are,' said the King. `Nearly two miles high,' added the Queen. `Well, I shan't go, at any rate,' said Alice: `besides, that's not a regular rule: you invented it just now.' `It's the oldest rule in the book,' said the King. `Then it ought to be Number One,' said Alice. The King turned pale, and shut his note-book hastily. `Consider your verdict,' he said to the jury, in a low, trembling voice.
fornigate's tea party is back in session; call the enxt witness!!!
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 18:38:25 (EDT)

My two cents are: `What are they doing?' Alice whispered to the Gryphon. `They can't have anything to put down yet, before the trial's begun.' `They're putting down their names,' the Gryphon whispered in reply, `for fear they should forget them before the end of the trial.' `Stupid things!' Alice began in a loud, indignant voice, but she stopped hastily, for the White Rabbit cried out, `Silence in the court!' and the King put on his spectacles and looked anxiously round, to make out who was talking. Alice could see, as well as if she were looking over their shoulders, that all the jurors were writing down `stupid things!' on their slates, and she could even make out that one of them didn't know how to spell `stupid,' and that he had to ask his neighbour to tell him. `A nice muddle their slates'll be in before the trial's over!' thought Alice. One of the jurors had a pencil that squeaked. This of course, Alice could not stand, and she went round the court and got behind him, and very soon found an opportunity of taking it away. She did it so quickly that the poor little juror (it was Bill, the Lizard) could not make out at all what had become of it; so, after hunting all about for it, he was obliged to write with one finger for the rest of the day; and this was of very little use, as it left no mark on the slate. `Herald, read the accusation!' said the King. On this the White Rabbit blew three blasts on the trumpet, and then unrolled the parchment scroll, and read as follows:-- `The Queen of Hearts, she made some tarts, All on a summer day: The Knave of Hearts, he stole those tarts, And took them quite away!' `Consider your verdict,' the King said to the jury.
doink
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 18:34:53 (EDT)

My two cents are: Besides, it's my tea party and I'll say what I want.
alice
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 18:27:14 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sounds like infinity to me, typical. Topical.
Pete�
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 18:24:59 (EDT)

My two cents are: You have to hit the black hole dead center in order not to be torn apart. Said Alice.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 18:24:25 (EDT)

My two cents are: Well, fake Pete, I see nothing wrong with loving me. Unless you are a fag of Britos.
Pete�
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 18:24:24 (EDT)

My two cents are: Jung approaches the Grail legend as a story with many symbols from the unconcious mind used to express the religious attitude of the people at the time. He treats the main characters such as Merlin and Arthur as archetypes of the collective unconcious and the Grail Hallows (that is : spear, sword, cup and stone) as very potent symbols of religion from the collective unconcious. Jung believed that something fundamental was missing from Christianity as a world religion and that the Christianised versions of the Grail stories filled this gap. To him the Grail in the form of the Cup of Christ was a psychological progression in the completion of the development of Christianity. He also shows that alchemy and the Grail legends which developed around the same time had many symbols, colours , and spiritual teachings in common. Further to this, many events in the Grail cycles have been closely analysed in terms of Jungian psychology. Jung showed that the writers understood or at least unconciously expressed many fundamental elements of his psychology in the events they placed in the stories.
typical
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 18:23:32 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sure, easy for you to say. But Pete has a magic computer that lets him hook up with poems about the holy grail. Proof is easy to collect for someone with that kind of magic.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 18:19:25 (EDT)

My two cents are: Yeah, you need "proof." Look at Pete, he always has proof at hand, even proof that the holy grail is infinity. Would you be willing to believe that without proof? Yet there it is, plain as the nose on your face. This guy must be a para-legal or something.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 18:16:28 (EDT)

My two cents are: Love me.
Pete�
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 18:16:16 (EDT)

My two cents are: Doink.
Pete�
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 18:15:51 (EDT)

My two cents are: And the final, er, rub: "The clouds are broken in the sky, And thro' the mountain-walls A rolling organ-harmony Swells up, and shakes and falls. Then move the trees, the copses nod, Wings flutter, voices hover clear: "O just and faithful knight of God! Ride on! the prize is near." ...All-arm'd I ride, whate'er betide, Until I find the holy Grail."
Pete�
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 18:15:39 (EDT)

My two cents are: Here's even more proof: "A gentle sound, an awful light! Three angels bear the holy Grail: With folded feet, in stoles of white, On sleeping wings they sail. Ah, blessed vision! blood of God! My spirit beats her mortal bars, As down dark tides the glory slides, And star-like mingles with the stars."
Pete�
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 18:14:10 (EDT)

My two cents are: If you fell into a black hole, you'd be squashed like a bug. You can't go around blurting out nonsense statments the time, man . You need to put some thought into your theory before parting your lips to speak, or spreading the web between the fingers to hunt and peck your way around a keyboard. Science is a tough town, so cut the slothful approach and scope things out a little better.
Glomp
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 18:13:48 (EDT)

My two cents are: Here's some proof: "My golden spurs now bring to me, And bring to me my richest mail, For to-morrow I go over land and sea In search of the Holy Grail; Shall never a bed for me be spread, Nor shall a pillow be under my head, Till I begin my vow to keep; Here on the rushes will I sleep, And perchance there may come a vision true Ere day create the world anew."
Pete�
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 18:11:22 (EDT)

My two cents are: Well, which is it, "sheesh" or "geesh?"
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- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 18:10:06 (EDT)

My two cents are: If one fell into a black hole, one might be sucked down a tunnel and shot out a white hole in a parallel universe. Just like Alice.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 18:08:44 (EDT)

My two cents are: It's up by that screwy crazy place, Pete, the blinding white corkscrew up over in the corner of your forehead where all your thoughts seem to go, as if sucked in by a wormhole or time warp.
Captain Psychiatry Book
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 18:07:01 (EDT)

My two cents are: Gee whiz, Anon, didn't you know the Holy Grail IS infinity? Sheesh. Get a clue!!!
Pete�
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 18:03:34 (EDT)

My two cents are: Can't help you there. Tell you what. Why don't you go look for "unto infinity" for a couple years. If you find it, move on to the Holy Grail. Report back here in, say, 2010.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 17:51:03 (EDT)

My two cents are: Wondering where "unto infinity" is?
Pete�
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 16:19:47 (EDT)

My two cents are: Pete's taking a break Aaron. Has to do it every time he strains his brain by flexing it unto infinity.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 16:16:20 (EDT)

My two cents are: Have a drink of clean water, Aaron, and take a nice sanitary dump. Don't worry your little head about Kyoto.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 16:15:01 (EDT)

My two cents are: Pete, I think you're way in over your head on the physics, but I'd be interested to know if you concur with me on Kyoto. It's clear that Kyoto is too expensive. According to Dr. Bjorn Lomborg, author of "the Sceptical Environmentalist", the cost of Kyoto in 2010 will be enough to guarantee clean drinking water and sanitation for every Human Being in the world. There are better ways to help people than Kyoto. He was quoted in the Limbaugh Letter as saying "Kyoto is not a very efficient way to help the world. It will cost a lot of money, and it will do very little good." If any damage is done to the environment, it is the third world that's hardest hit. There are much better ways of helping them than ratifying Kyoto.
Aaron
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 16:10:54 (EDT)

My two cents are: Oh, we thought it was a fag of Britos. Our bad.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 16:02:47 (EDT)

My two cents are: Well, I sure would like to stick around and keep doing science with you wizards, but I've got to duck out to a meeting with a bag of Fritos. We'll come to grips with these important speculations later, but let's do it before Pete has his next Thorazine and fogs up.
House of Meat
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 15:41:43 (EDT)

My two cents are: Pete, you've got a real pal in this Glint dude. The man just refuses to help humiliate you about your stupid questions. He even invents two o'clock meetings to avoid participating in your public turd-dunking. Not many would do that for a guy. Even a guy like you, who touchs the empathy in all of us. Cherish him.
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- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 15:35:00 (EDT)

My two cents are: Annular eclipses should not be confused with total eclipses. Nor should dogs be confused with ducks. Confusing an annular eclipse with a duck would be particularly out of line. Let's have more of these clarifications! It just gets better and better!
Captain Science Book
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 15:31:37 (EDT)

My two cents are: Good, Pete, Einstein's theory of special relativity! You're on a roll! Go with it, baby, talk to me! This can't get anything but better!
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- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 15:28:55 (EDT)

My two cents are: On the bomb/airplane question, Glint, I see that you are a strict constructionist, a scientific fellow. Yes, of course, we should not just blurt out nonsense questions! Our questions about which is more destructive, an airplane crashing into a building or a nuclear explosion, should be much more explicit! So: What kind of plane? Let's make it a rocket-powered dirigible. How much fuel? Full, let's say the equivalent of a space shuttle blast-off tank or two. Add all the hydrogen the dirigible can hold. Going how fast? Let's say Mach III. Not fast enough to start a thermonuclear reaction on impact. How many kilotons in the nuke? Let's say the least kilotonage theoretically possible, or the yield of the least powerful non-dud nuclear test. This might be classified, so maybe it would be best to start with the kilotonnage of the dirigible crash to see if we're in the ball-park. I know you are not a physicist, and can't do all this any more than you can speculate coherently about relativity, but couldn't you take it most of the way and then request peer review? Surprising to hear that you've got to duck off to a meeting right when it's time to clear this up for the pineapple. I'm sure you're not hiding, and never did-- that was just an attempt at humorous repartee.
House of Meat
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 15:25:22 (EDT)

My two cents are: Stop beating your meat, house. Look in the mirror. That one. There.
Pete�
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 15:18:26 (EDT)

My two cents are: As for Einstein's theory of special relativity, if one could move at the speed of light, supposedly time would stand still or slow to such a slow pace that the mass would become invisible. But isn't it really that the person goes so fast that s/he outpaces only the humanly visible light spectrum so they cannot be visible to the human eye. Time symply clicks along at a registered humanly divine pace, or else it is not time as functionally defined by man. It is something else. Tree time perhaps, or neutrino sex, but not human time. As we know it. And define it.
Pete�
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 15:17:24 (EDT)

My two cents are: Annular eclipses shouldn't be confused with total eclipses. Total eclipses happen when the Moon completely covers the Sun's surface. Then, the faint solar corona springs into view -- a breathtaking sight by all accounts. On June 10th, the Moon is too small to cover the whole Sun. The Sun's dazzling outer limb will peek out all around the Moon. It will be very bright, and eye safety measures are essential.Relatively few people will experience the annular phase of this month's eclipse. It's simply too remote. Nevertheless, plenty of sky watchers in North America will enjoy the partial phase: a lovely and very weird sunset. Don't miss it!
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 15:16:07 (EDT)

My two cents are: I want to see Pete and Glint go toe to toe in a debate on whether time is a human creation. Come on guys, this is a pretty important point of dispute between you two. Let's work it out fairly in a mental slugging match of the titans. Me, I say that humans didn't invent the clock at all, they just aped the sun going around the earth, making it a circle rather than an ellipse, and driving it with a spring instead of gravity. So I'll take on the winner, whoever comes out on top, Big Pete or the Maryland Marvel.
House of Meat
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 15:13:11 (EDT)

My two cents are: Also, how can an infinite mass move beyond infinity? If the mass is infinite, then it can't move anywhere because it already occupies that infinite space. Absolutes are by definition, human creations.
Pete�
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 15:12:22 (EDT)

My two cents are: OK, you bit, tell me this: if humans were not here, who would spell t-i-m-e? And why would any rock or tree or anything need to have a word or measurement for what humans define as "time"? How do you know time exists without humans to interpret it?
Pete�
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 15:09:59 (EDT)

My two cents are: I've never hid from anyone here. Always glad to give my 2c worth, if I have an answer or statement that may have some bearing on some subject somewhere. As to Homer's question about which is more powerful, plane or bomb, I don't know. I would suggest asking a physicist. Of course they will tell you that your question is vague and not specific enough. What kind of plane? How many lbs of fuel? What speed is the plane? How many kilotons of TNT in that nuke? You can't go around blurting out nonsense questions all the time, meateor man. You need to put some thought into your inquiry before parting your lips to speak, or spreading the web between the fingers to hunt and peck your way around a keyboard. Off to a 2 O'Clock...
Glint
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 15:09:47 (EDT)

My two cents are: Thanks for the rundown on neat facts about relativity. I'm sure we'll all take home much that is worthy of keeping the conversation going at table. Now how about that airplane/bomb rundown?
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- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 15:05:49 (EDT)

My two cents are: Buy the way, it's not the clock experiment that is noteworthy. It's the wormholes and time warps moving out of science fiction into science fact. A point of viewing worthy of a Peggy Noonan or a Pete.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 15:03:17 (EDT)

My two cents are: Also as an object approaches light speed its mass approaches infinity. On paper at least. One reason why light speed is said to be impossible for any mass. The mount of fuel to accelerate a nearly infinite mass is infinite and we don't know how to build tanks that big yet.
Glint
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 15:01:27 (EDT)

My two cents are: Congratulations, Glint, for setting Pete straight on time. Glad to see you dealing with his queries directly, instead of hiding out the way you used to. Now how about answering his question on which is potentially more destructive, an airliner or an atomic bomb?
House of Meat
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 15:01:01 (EDT)

My two cents are: The Liberals will also be out observing 'roids of a different kind late Saturday/early Sunday, I'm sure. Expecially the 'roids that hang out from the Bay Area of a person.
Glint
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 14:58:06 (EDT)

My two cents are: The trick to successful hilarity is the "hmmm?" at the end of a post. It can make the difference between a dull, Pete-like knee-jerk closet homosexual embarassment and a real knee-slapper.
House of Meat
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 14:56:23 (EDT)

My two cents are: Actually, time is not a human invention, clocks are. Clocks are used to measure time. When you derive the equations and plug in time for T what comes out the other end is an anomaly. Same thing with the Lorenzin (sp?) forshortening where objects become shorter as they approach light speed, theoretically that is.
Glint
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 14:56:14 (EDT)

My two cents are: The observatory is predicted to be in the path of yet another good asteroidal occultation early Sunday morning. This time the shadow of 568 Cheruskia will sweep across the plain like an Oklahoma wind. This puppy's only 89 km across, mag. 13.78. The star in the constellation Ophiuchus is mag. 11.65. Thus if a positive event is observed, there should be a 2.13 magnitude drop for up to 5.7 seconds. If an event doesn't occur no drop will be seen. But the data will still be useful in constraining the path.
Glint
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 14:53:12 (EDT)

My two cents are: Glint, since time is a human creation, how could it possibly ever skip or warp in space? Isn't it a contradiction in terms to set a mathematically precise rythm and then say it can be altered by some other factor? I mean, by definition, it should not change or it is not accurate in its own definition of creation. Or is this just another liberal dodge?
Pete�
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 14:48:53 (EDT)

My two cents are: The point is that clocks can only be synchronized if they are in the same frame of reference. When you got clocks whizzing around in spacecraft synchronization becomes a problem, particularly where precision is important such as with the GPS system. Errors in time translate into errors in spaciality, i.e. location. Failure to compensate might put the cruise missile down a camel's ass instead of the sleeping enemy in his tent or cave. I know a pro astronomer working on a GPS contract through U of MD. It's led him to begin doubting the theory of relativity. Actually, he's had his doubts for a long time, but interprets the GPS data as evidence against it. See http://www.metaresearch.org/cosmology/gravity/speed_limit.asp for the scoop.
Glint
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 14:45:52 (EDT)

My two cents are: Did someone ask for Cliton's pickle? Or was that his peyronie? Hmmm...
Pete�
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 14:29:07 (EDT)

My two cents are: How can someone who went to Andover, Yale, and Harvard be a dumbass? It's not easy to get into those schools, you know. Also, as Gary has pointed out, Bush was accepted into the Texas Air National Guard to fly a "very hot and hard to handle aircraft because of the wing design!" Do you think these programs are open to just any dumbass? Do you suppose Bush got in on his good looks? No, sheer applied brainpower is the only way to make it through the path that George Bush II lined out for himself. The foreigners who say otherwise can go suck a pickle.
Aaron
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 14:13:49 (EDT)

My two cents are: If he's such a dumb-ass, why does he have all the bombs? Did the foreigners ever think of that? Why does he have the portfolio and the hot young wife, relatively speaking?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 13:39:32 (EDT)

My two cents are: Are the foreigners really saying that Bush is a dumb-ass? Can they do that? Aren't they breaking some sort of treaty?
curious Tampa grandmother
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 13:12:09 (EDT)

My two cents are: SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - A U.S. Air Force colonel who called President Bush "a joke" and accused him of allowing the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks to happen because "his presidency was going nowhere," has been suspended and could face a court-martial. The letter from Lt. Col. Steve Butler, who was vice chancellor for student affairs at the Defense Language Institute in Monterey, was published May 26 in The (Monterey County) Herald. "He did nothing to warn the American people because he needed this war on terrorism," Butler wrote. "His daddy had Saddam and he needed Osama. His presidency was going nowhere. ... This guy is a joke." Butler, who called Bush's alleged silence "sleazy and contemptible," was suspended from his position on May 29 pending the outcome of an investigation into his remarks, Air Force spokeswoman Valerie Burkes said Tuesday. He remains assigned to the Defense Language Institute. Butler, who entered active duty in April 1979, was a navigator during Desert Storm, Burkes said. His wife, Shelly, told The Herald that Butler plans to retire in a few weeks.
typical liebral fool
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 12:56:26 (EDT)

My two cents are: Yes, it is apparent to me that the precise clocks, once they start ticking in an international space station that twirls at a different rate than Mother Earth, will indeed cause wormholes and time warps to move out of science fiction and into science fact. How can there be any doubt?
House of Meat
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 10:54:15 (EDT)

My two cents are: "By comparing extremely precise clocks that can operate under zero gravity," Kostelecky says, "miniscule changes in the ticking rate might be found as the spacecraft moves around the earth." The atomic clocks in question are so precise that measuring time with them is comparable to measuring the distance to the nearest star to within an inch, Kostelecky says. And because the international space station spins faster and has a different rotational axis than the earth, experiments that aren't possible on terra firma can be conducted. If variations in the ticking rate were discovered, Kostelecky says, it would be a "striking signal" that the laws of nature may be based on fundamental theories other than Special Relativity -- or perhaps in addition to it. So are wormholes and time warps likely to move out of science fiction and into science fact?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 04:44:08 (EDT)

My two cents are: Tropic Lightning.
Pete�
- Wednesday, June 05, 2002 at 04:04:11 (EDT)

My two cents are: Not sure just how stupid too stupid is. But I've got to admit Snippy quite often breathtakingly stupid. He had a little hot streak going there for awhile, but after Pretzelgate he kind of started slipping. Seems to be getting worse in recent weeks. This might have something to do with having to hang around with so many educated foreignors who don't speak American or Espanoli. Throw in all the treasonous questions being asked and the constant rumble of Enrongate and the Supidity Index is going to rise. He'll be lucky to poll in the high 40s come Fall.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, June 04, 2002 at 23:31:03 (EDT)

My two cents are: BUSH: BUREAUCRACIES' REPORTS IRRELEVANT What Matters Is What T-Ball Wants Who Cares What Voters, Experts, The World Thinks? "Poppy Bought Me This Country - Don't You Forget It" WASHINGTON -- President Bush dismissed on Tuesday a report put out by his administration warning that human activities are behind climate change that is having significant effects on the environment. "I read the report put out by the bureaucracy," Bush said dismissively Tuesday when asked about the EPA report, adding that he still opposes the Kyoto treaty. So.. George W. Bush does not regard reports "put out by bureaucracies" as being useful or important. Wow. That certainly raises some questions, doesn't it? Just how long has that bewildering approach been operative in this administration? What about law enforcement bureaucracies and other agencies? Does Governor Bush feel the same about their reports? FBI? CIA? Just how much of a factor was Bush's disinterest in "reports put out by bureaucracies" in his failure to heed information provided by those agencies prior to 9/11 - or to seek more aggressive information gathering? Can someone who regards himself as accountable to no one and who is so dismissive of the work and research of government agencies be trusted at all when he now says his administration is committed to fortifying those agencies to prevent additional mass murders of thousands more Americans? Will the serious and grave implications of Bush's statement as it relates to his general approach to governing (nothing matters except Boy King's capricious whims) cause the media whores to finally take notice of the Littlest Dictator's frightening incompetence, untrustworthiness, and disregard for anything other than the interests of those he was installed into office to serve?
How stupid IS too stupid?
- Tuesday, June 04, 2002 at 23:10:32 (EDT)

My two cents are: Energy producers? Oh, as in "energy" and Enron, Kenny-Boy: fake energy trading to hike up profits. Har de har har. Unless you're from California. In which case, tough shit. Our boy Kenny boy bought your boy Snippy. Hook, line, and sinkered.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, June 04, 2002 at 23:08:04 (EDT)

My two cents are: More nuclear power plants are fine targets.
B'hommad
- Tuesday, June 04, 2002 at 21:42:15 (EDT)

My two cents are: ALL the managers or supervisors are going for training tomorrow. I can finally get some work done!
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, June 04, 2002 at 20:44:38 (EDT)

My two cents are: WASHINGTON -- President Bush dismissed on Tuesday a report put out by his administration warning that human activities are behind climate change that is having significant effects on the environment. The report to the United Nations, written by the Environmental Protection Agency, puts most of the blame for recent global warming on the burning of fossil fuels that release carbon dioxide and other heat-trapping gases into the environment. But it suggests nothing beyond voluntary action by industry for dealing with the so-called "greenhouse" gases, the program Bush advocated in rejecting a treaty negotiated in Kyoto, Japan, in 1997 calling for mandatory reduction of those gases by industrial nations. "I read the report put out by the bureaucracy," Bush said dismissively Tuesday when asked about the EPA report, adding that he still opposes the Kyoto treaty.
It was put out by the bureaucracy? No wonder it was wrong!
- Tuesday, June 04, 2002 at 19:25:22 (EDT)

My two cents are: I agree with Aaron on the Pete question. Funny how everyone figures it out sooner or later.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, June 04, 2002 at 19:08:36 (EDT)

My two cents are: Don't worry, Gary, Aaron, and Ditch. Nobody else understands Pete's posts, either.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, June 04, 2002 at 16:24:08 (EDT)

My two cents are: Of course he gave aid and comfort to the enemy, Gary, you boob. The enemy was right and the American troglodytes perpetuating the war were wrong. When I was in Vietnam, the only bodyguards I had were the 1st Air Cavalry and the US Air Force. Let me tell you, it was nip and tuck. Just think how touch it was on PFC Al Gore, with only Guido and Alfonso to guard his body.
Get Some�
- Tuesday, June 04, 2002 at 16:14:29 (EDT)

My two cents are: Look, ditchweed, it is all about the moral divide between Christians and Muslims. See, conservatives are right even on the religion angle. It keeps you guys from sucking teets to age 35. Think on it. Doink.
Pete�
- Tuesday, June 04, 2002 at 16:02:25 (EDT)

My two cents are: You think lawyer Hawa Ibrahim can pitch it right before the court that as long as the child sucks Amina Lawal Kurami's tits at least once a day that she won't be stoned to death, Alex Baldwin style? Maybe if President Olusegun Obasanjo personally supervises? Hope the child's eventual beard and mustache don't cause any irritation to the chocolate milk tap.
D1TC4 W33D
- Tuesday, June 04, 2002 at 15:43:19 (EDT)

My two cents are: If its fossile fuels that are doing the globe warming, then let's switch to nuclear power. I beleive we've been down this road before, and it usually ends up being the left that's caught with their heads in the sand. Some leftist environmentalist says our use of power is dirtying the air, so some rightist politician says lets use a cleaner source, the leftist says no with the logic of "since we don't have enough for everyone, let's have everyone use less!". Then the rolling blackouts start, followed by the heat strokes from not having an air conditioner in the summertime, and the idea that we are still using too much power. Then the President meets with *gasp* ENERGY PRODUCERS!!!! to discuss ways of producing energy. This leads to hearings, accusations of working with experts and businessmen (or as the left calls them, Special Interest Groups) without talking to the environmentalists. Then the White house says they invited the environmentalists to the discussion, but they never showed. The environmentalists confirm this, claiming "they wouldn't have listened to us anyway". All cahrges are dropped against the President's administration, and all is forgotten. But we still don't have any more power plants. Oh yeah, Pete, you're a dick.
Aaron
- Tuesday, June 04, 2002 at 15:20:50 (EDT)

My two cents are: LAGOS (Reuters) - A Nigerian woman, sentenced by a Muslim court to death by stoning for adultery, was given a two-year reprieve to wean her baby, her lawyers said on Tuesday. An appeals court in the northwestern town of Funtua stayed the execution on Monday after hearing an appeal from Amina Lawal Kurami who was sentenced to death in March after bearing a child out of wedlock. "The ruling means that nothing will happen to Amina regarding the execution of the death sentence on her until she has weaned her baby by 2004," Kurami's lawyer Hawa Ibrahim told Reuters. Kurami is the second woman to be sentenced to death after bearing a child out of marriage since 2000, when more than a dozen states in the predominantly Muslim northern Nigeria adopted strict Islamic sharia law. In March, an appeals court reversed a similar sentence on Safiya Hussaini Tungar-Tudu after worldwide pleas for clemency and a warning from President Olusegun Obasanjo that Nigeria faced international isolation over the case. The adoption of sharia, which punishes theft by amputating hands, has stoked violence between Muslims and Christians in Africa's most populous state. More than 3,000 people have been killed.
moanica?
- Tuesday, June 04, 2002 at 15:08:01 (EDT)

My two cents are: Is this humour? Doink.
Pete�
- Tuesday, June 04, 2002 at 15:01:23 (EDT)

My two cents are: Unlike your teeth.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, June 04, 2002 at 14:50:09 (EDT)

My two cents are: Notice how red is not allcapped?
Pete�
- Tuesday, June 04, 2002 at 14:09:24 (EDT)

My two cents are: Hosni Mubarak warns Bush of imminent attack, but is ignored by Snippyists as a Muslim hysteric. Let's protect that oil line!
It's the Stupidity, Stupid!
- Tuesday, June 04, 2002 at 12:59:01 (EDT)

My two cents are: Where can I get "a week that will take root in the most shallow soil" - whever the fvck1ng h377 that is?
C@RP3R
- Tuesday, June 04, 2002 at 12:40:09 (EDT)

My two cents are: Two-term, peace and prosperity, balanced-budget, surplus-making President Clinton prior to his two term presidency, demonstrated against the war in Vietnam, along with hundreds of thousands of other patriotic Americans, which eventually forced the US government, under slimeball criminal traitor resigned in disgrace druggie paranoid narcissist Nixon, to stop sending American troops to slaughter. End O Story.
Hang Westmoreland
- Tuesday, June 04, 2002 at 11:10:59 (EDT)

My two cents are: The "Princes and Patsies" site is not very accurate or truthful. For instance, Rush Limbaugh was declared 4F because of bad knees. Pres. Bush did in fact serve in the Air National Guard and logged about 1000 hours of flying time in an F-104 Starfighter, for it's time a very hot and hard to handle aircraft because of the wing design. It is true that Al Gore served in Vietnamm, it is also true that he had body guards around him while he was doing his reporting. I came closer than he did to buying the big one and I was in a supposedly safer area. The fact is that many individuals did not serve because of college deferments, physical infirmities, age and being conscientious objectors. I have no problem with that. The problem I had with Bill Clinton is that not only was he a draft-dodging coward, but he actively demonstrated against U.S. Policy in Vietnam, thereby giving aid and comfort to the enemy. That is a documented fact. In my book that makes him a big a unhung traitor as Hanoi Jane Fonda.
Gary
- Tuesday, June 04, 2002 at 10:59:11 (EDT)

My two cents are: Can't Stop The Avalanche Now Monday, June 3, 2002 It's a funny thing about the truth. It has a way of demanding to be noticed. People will always try to deny it, hide it, distort it, destroy it, but the truth is like a week that will take root in the most shallow soil, but is strong enough to grow through asphalt or concrete. For more than two years, the national news media, both broadcast and print, have produced, sold and maintained the illusion of George W. Bush as a strong, competent leader. Of course, the British and European press, which is not controlled by the same corporate purse string as our domestic whores, have been telling the truth about His Fraudulency since before the election. Now many of the lapses in national security and intelligence that foreign sources have documented for months since 9/11 are beginning to sprout up in American media. Those pesky weeds. Two more rumblings today that foreshadow the huge political earthquake on the horizon: First, Newsweek is reporting that the CIA was tracking two of the 9/11 hijackers as far back as January 2000, but they didn't alert the FBI or INS. These two characters turned out to have close ties to the mastermind of the U.S.S. Cole bombing. Second, House and Senate Intelligence panels met jointly to begin their investigation. Ironically, in a party sorely lacking the cajones to take on the Unelected Smirk and his criminal Dick, two women, California Rep. Nancy Pelosi and California Sen. Dianne Feinstein, are leading the calls for a comprehensive investigation. Folks, let me say it now: This is the beginning of the end for DickSmirk, Inc. (a cooperative venture of Enron and Halliburton), and they know it. They have fought tooth-and-nail to keep every piece of information and evidence from being released to Congress and to the public because they already know how damaging it is. How sad it is to live in a country where men and women who call themselves reporters and journalists would rather investigate a non-illegal sexual encounter between two adults than a) criminal fraud in California by Enron; b) unethical influence in the administration by Enron; c) the apparently criminal activities of Halliburton while Big Dick was CEO; d) DickSmirk, Inc.'s negotiations with the Taliban for the oil and gas pipeline from the Caspian Sea region; e) countless blunders, incompetence and downright stupidity in ignoring every piece of evidence pointing to an imminent terrorist attack in 2001. Oh, wait, I forgot one more: Gore won the election by almost 600,000 popular votes and by several hundred votes in Florida once you count all the legal ballots (as mandated by Florida State Law and unconstitutionally prohibited by Poppy's Supreme Court) and throw out the illegally submitted absentee ballots. You cannot deny that any of this is true. It is all true, reported by various foreign sources and beginning to trickle into the American news media. In Oliver Stone's brilliant treatise on paranoia, JFK, in the fabulous scene where Donald Sutherland explains the military/intelligence background of the assassination to Kevin Costner, he tells Coster, "People are suckers for the truth." We all know that the news is all about making money, but little by little, this administration will eventually fall as a cumulative result of their greed and stupidity. An avalanche begins with the smallest bit of snow and ice knocked loose and sent downhill. But once it starts, you can't stop it. For DickSmirk, their avalanche is on its way.
Impeachment or Resignation? How About Both?
- Tuesday, June 04, 2002 at 10:42:28 (EDT)

My two cents are: Huh?
Snippy
- Tuesday, June 04, 2002 at 10:38:50 (EDT)

My two cents are: Yes, Glint, red WHITE and BLUE .. (ahem)
Pete�
- Tuesday, June 04, 2002 at 03:10:41 (EDT)

My two cents are: Deal with that foul mouth, Doinker, lest it do just fine.
Big One
- Tuesday, June 04, 2002 at 00:53:52 (EDT)

My two cents are: The Golem-Gone-One's foul mouth will do just fine?
Ish Kabibble
- Tuesday, June 04, 2002 at 00:51:11 (EDT)

My two cents are: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A49210-2002Jun2.html
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, June 04, 2002 at 00:08:18 (EDT)

My two cents are: http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/020603/energy_executive_death_10.html
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 23:34:51 (EDT)

My two cents are: THE STARS & STRIPES FOREVER!
Glint
- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 23:30:08 (EDT)

My two cents are: I for one certainly believe Pete's analysis of what makes the Earth's climate what it is. I'm sure that he's just as good a geo-meteorologist as he is a poet....
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- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 19:41:31 (EDT)

My two cents are: Amazing what a diet of Thorazine and 'luudes will do to a man's point of view in a few years' time.
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 19:30:28 (EDT)

My two cents are: Is this the same Pete who had heard that the North Sea was rising a hundred feet a year and must already be lapping at the second deck of the Eiffel Tower?
?
- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 19:28:25 (EDT)

My two cents are: It's all in the "arctic ice bores", you fool!
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 19:14:27 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sounds like the pineapple has it all under control, Mr. Lurkey. No fears! What a relief that is... apparently it is all explained by the volcanos, according to something Pete heard somewhere.
Whew! Had me scared for a minute until Pete figured it out!
- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 19:13:27 (EDT)

My two cents are: According to Antarctic ice bores, the earth was due to warm up anyway. Based on cyclical readings this happens wery rapidly and for decades has been. Probably for reasons due to things other than simply human created greenhouse gases. Mother nature can and has made global warming look like a volcanic eruption compared to this human sunburn. What do you think happened when volcanoes erupted. Can you spell G-A-I-A? Doink POWer.
Pete�
- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 18:44:39 (EDT)

My two cents are: The old dog still sometimes rears up on its dysplasic legs and barks out a POW!, but it is rare. "Doink" came in after the haole missed the war, off playing tourist in the African veldts. It was a sound that came to him when he was fantasizing the sound a bullet would make spanking into a trophy giraffe or wart-hog, and he parlayed that fantasy into a fantasy of snipe-shooting all the people who sneer at him or otherwise treat him as lower than a toad. Ignore it long enough, and it will go the way of his other famous catch-words, such as "foop", "tra-la", "let's roll",and "ish gebibble."
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- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 18:40:47 (EDT)

My two cents are: You've got to admit that on the hot days the globe will be warming. At least the part of the globe where the hot days are happening. Of course on the cold days we have to admit that there's global cooling. It all balances out. Our only problem will be if the sky starts falling.
Turkey Lurkey
- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 18:33:41 (EDT)

My two cents are: So when was the proud and mighty "POW!" replaced with the whimpering and meekk "doink?"
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 18:32:11 (EDT)

My two cents are: He fired up his "packet sniffer" and slithered in through Port 110? Why didn't we think of it? It's the oldest dodge in his bag of tricks!
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 18:30:45 (EDT)

My two cents are: ???
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- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 18:24:08 (EDT)

My two cents are: The 15:24 and 15:50 Pete imposters are now ID'd as the deviant one. Got it. Doink.
Pete�
- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 18:03:32 (EDT)

My two cents are: What does the global warming theory have to do with political parties, Aaron? Is it a liberal theory? Right-wingers believe there will be an ice-age and everything will get colder instead of warmer? But that's the one I was brought up believing, in a liberal household! Dang, it's hard to know what you're supposed to believe any more, isn't it! Probably good to be middle-of-the-road on this one, and think that it will be pretty much like before, but there will be some hot days and some cold days.
House of Meat
- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 17:58:26 (EDT)

My two cents are: Rough nookie? Doubt it. More like a new batch of Linda Tripp pin-ups.
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 17:42:21 (EDT)

My two cents are: The Milky Way galaxy has been caught in the act of shredding an ancient star cluster and leaving a tell-tale trail of stellar debris smeared across the sky, astronomers reported on Monday.
Code for a night of rough nookie in the observatory
- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 17:30:43 (EDT)

My two cents are: Good point, Aaron. Both Bushes are assholes.
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 17:26:53 (EDT)

My two cents are: GW Bush has been making the same mistakes as his father. He's been abandoning his principles, while depending on his wartime popularity to get re-elected. While I still believe the Global Warming theory is still Environmental Chicken Little-ism, I think that this report is just a small item on a long list of unnecessary (not to mention dangerous) White House Concessions to the minority party.
Aaron
- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 16:09:01 (EDT)

My two cents are: Ever the huckster, that Rush. Love how he starts every sentence with "Folks, ... Sort of like, "Folks, you say you can't do the dishes any more without ruining the skin on your hands. Well, have I got a dish detergent for you." That's why I trust him. He sounds like he knows what he's talking about.
Gits Wombat
- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 16:07:13 (EDT)

My two cents are: Hang in there, Pete. Gary and I are here for you.
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 16:03:17 (EDT)

My two cents are: "It appears to be the hijacking of conservatism," Rush Limbaugh charged to the nation's largest radio audience Monday after President Bush apparently flip-flopped over Global Warming. "George W. Al Gore, anyone?" Limbaugh slammed, just hours after the NEW YORK TIMES headlined "Climate Changing, U.S. Says in Report." "What's left of the conservative agenda that has not been offered up to democrats?" questioned Limbaugh, who has been an outspoken critic of the Global Warming theory. Limbaugh explained: "I have not jumped across this divide, my friends. I thought about this last night when I became aware [of the NEW YORK TIMES story], and I thought what am I going to have to do? Am I going to have to go on the radio tomorrow and say , 'folks, guess what? I have been wrong about global warming. I've been wrong about it, the president says it is happening, human beings are causing it. I've been wrong.' I just can't because I don't think I am. I -- too many scientists out there whom I implicitly trust who have proven to me that these predictions are basically apocalyptic doom and gloom based on raw emotion. Even the global warming advocates to this day will not tell you it is definitively happening." Developing...
go rush go
- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 16:00:53 (EDT)

My two cents are: Shouln't that be "give a sh*t?"
you like to dance close to the fire, don't you?
- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 15:53:13 (EDT)

My two cents are: For myself, I found it shallow, but not particularly cryptic.
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- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 15:51:23 (EDT)

My two cents are: I'm bouncing off the walls in here. Literally, as Ann Coulter would say, although with me it's literally literal.
Pete�
- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 15:50:03 (EDT)

My two cents are: Why won't anybody play with me? Waaahhh!
Pete�
- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 15:24:02 (EDT)

My two cents are: Poor, pathetic asshole.
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 15:04:26 (EDT)

My two cents are: For someone who doesn't "give a shit" as you say, you sure pay a lot of attention to the details. The truth hurts, don't it. Doink.
Pete�
- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 15:02:49 (EDT)

My two cents are: Look, Doinkman, the only problem is, nobody gives a shit what you have to say. Heard it all before and it always sucked. Now, open your twat and get ready unless it's pussed over or sew shut, in which case your foul mouth will do just fine. I've got a big one cumming.
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 14:57:42 (EDT)

My two cents are: Typical lazy socialist. Proves its disregard for the truth. Doink.
Pete�
- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 14:54:19 (EDT)

My two cents are: The truth aint worth it if it's got to be decoded, pea-brain.
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 14:47:32 (EDT)

My two cents are: Of course, cowardly anons could never see anything deep or decode the truth.
Pete�
- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 14:29:38 (EDT)

My two cents are: Cryptic, yet shallow, Pete.
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 14:24:56 (EDT)

My two cents are: The only faux war going on here is in you know who's "head."
Pete�
- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 14:21:34 (EDT)

My two cents are: During wars, even faux wars like this one, there is a tendency to restrict civil liberties where it might thwart the enemy. That is why it's nice to have someone in charge who is at least cognizant of our liberties and how they may be eroded as he makes the temporary adjustments -- say a Lincoln or a Wilson or an FDR. To have a totalitarian holy roller, a stupid totalitarian holy roller, in charge of the Justice Department, and a clueless prep-school cheerleader posing as president, is not good. It's going to take a long time to to repair the damage these hammer-heads are doing.
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- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 13:09:16 (EDT)

My two cents are: Me too. I find Ashcroft's morals to be unbecoming of the Sioux Falls Daughters of the American Revolution Sexual Abstinance Support Team.
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 13:04:18 (EDT)

My two cents are: Looks like some folks have plunged their pokers in up to the handle over John Ashcroft. That's all right with me.
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 12:53:09 (EDT)

My two cents are: They don't understand what poleaxed is like. They haven't been shot.
wha?
- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 12:34:33 (EDT)

My two cents are: Really.
Faux E�
- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 10:47:06 (EDT)

My two cents are: Foreign types don't appreciate bandy legs the way we do. Fuck 'em.
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 10:22:42 (EDT)

My two cents are: Open Derision Even From Conservatives A Long Way From JFK, Even Reagan Dubya's Excellent Adventure Dismays All MWO European Correspondent MWO's roving European correspondent reports that the continent is still reeling in disbelief at George W. Bush's recent idiotic performance while on tour there. In recent decades, American presidents have seized the moment during their European visits to deliver some of their most memorable addresses. Remember John F. Kennedy's "Ich bin ein Berliner" speech? Or for that matter Ronald Reagan's appeal to Gorbachev that he tear down the Berlin wall -- perhaps the one genuinely moving rhetorical moment of Reagan's disastrous presidency. Well forget any repeat performance on Dubya's watch. Instead, he came across as the doofusy frat boy he really is, on an excellent adventure, insulting French President Jacques Chirac with a lame crack about his age, implying stupidly that he has only just heard that the French have a great cuisine, and ripping peevishly into an American reporter who (golly gee) addressed Chirac in French. (Does Dubya take it for granted that all foreign reporters are supposed to talk to him in his own broken half prepster, half fake cowboy American? Simple answer: Yes.) This Photo, from Germany, more or less sums up the impression Bush left behind. We're not asking Bush to be something he's not, like curious, erudite, gracious, refined, or president. But we do kind of expect a modicum of awareness and plain common sense when visiting our allies abroad, instead of courting the mullet vote back home once more. Instead, the moron, simply by being himself, has diminished American stature and compromised foreign policy in Europe more than anyone could have imagined possible in only five days.
How stupid IS too stupid?
- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 10:15:35 (EDT)

My two cents are: Those opposed to the freedoms listed in the Bill of Rights outnumber those supportin these freedoms by 20%, when the freedoms are described to them.
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 10:07:07 (EDT)

My two cents are: Joan Joan Joan Joan Joan O'Clock = AOK. But keep it on the q.t.
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 03:40:02 (EDT)

My two cents are: Country of chickens. Like the crynic. Worried about dying at the football game.
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 03:38:00 (EDT)

My two cents are: the FBI is concerned about public support for its enhanced power, it at least has public opinion on its side. Poll after poll shows broad backing for a strong response to terrorists - even if it means an encroachment on freedom. "The FBI's just doing their job and concerned for the rest of the citizens," said George Haddad, an Arab-American from Dearborn, Mich. A recent poll by Louis Harris and Associates found that 88 percent of the public favored expanded undercover activities against suspected terrorists, 72 percent backed closer monitoring of banking and credit card transactions and 59 percent support a national ID system. Plus, the poll found 58 percent supported expanded camera surveillance on streets and in public places. "The concern is not that the government will do too much, but that the government is not doing enough to rise to the challenge of answering this threat," said ABCNEWS polling director Gary Langer. Anyone remember the ending to "1984"?
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 03:11:42 (EDT)

My two cents are: Thought Rush said there's no such thing as global warming.
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 02:33:26 (EDT)

My two cents are: In a stark shift for the Bush administration, the United States has sent a climate report to the United Nations detailing specific and far-reaching effects that it says global warming will inflict on the American environment. In the report, the administration for the first time mostly blames human actions for recent global warming. It says the main culprit is the burning of fossil fuels that send heat-trapping greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. But while the report says the United States will be substantially changed in the next few decades - "very likely" seeing the disruption of snow-fed water supplies, more stifling heat waves and the permanent disappearance of Rocky Mountain meadows and coastal marshes, for example - it does not propose any major shift in the administration's policy on greenhouse gases. It recommends adapting to inevitable changes. It does not recommend making rapid reductions in greenhouse gases to limit warming, the approach favored by many environmental groups and countries that have accepted the Kyoto Protocol, a climate treaty written in the Clinton administration that was rejected by Mr. Bush. The new document, "U.S. Climate Action Report 2002," strongly concludes that no matter what is done to cut emissions in the future, nothing can be done about the environmental consequences of several decades' worth of carbon dioxide and other heat-trapping gases already in the atmosphere. http://www.nytimes.com/2002/06/03/science/03CLIM.html
Anonymous.
- Monday, June 03, 2002 at 01:13:10 (EDT)

My two cents are: "I cannot say that our country could have no central police without becoming totalitarian, but I can say with great conviction that it cannot be totalitarian without a centralized national police. A national police will have enough on enough people, even if it does not elect to prosecute them, so that it will find no opposition to its policies." Supreme Court Justice Robert H. Jackson, The Supreme Court In the American System of Government (1955).
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 23:56:51 (EDT)

My two cents are: Afghanistan was at the center of the so-called "Great Game" in the 19th century when Imperial Russia and the British Empire in India vied for influence. Today, its geographical position as a potential route for oil and natural gas pipelines makes Afghanistan extremely important to energy magnates seeking control of these precious resources. Enron, a Texas-based gas and energy company, to gether with Amoco, British Petroleum, Chevron, Exxon, Mobil and Unocal are all engaged in a multi-billion dollar frenzy to extract the reserves of Azerbaijan, Kazakh stan, and Turkmenistan, the three newly independent Soviet republics that border on the Caspian Sea. On behalf of the oil companies, an array of former cabinet members from the elder Bush administration have been actively involved in negotiations with the former Soviet republics. The dealmakers include James Baker, Brent Scowcroft, John Sununu and, notably, Dick Cheney, now vice president. Enron, the biggest contributor to the Bush campaign of 2000, conducted the feasibility study for a $2.5 billion trans-Caspian gas pipeline, which is being built under a joint venture agreement signed in February 1999 be tween Turkmenistan and two American companies, Bechtel and General Electric Capital Services. http://www.americanfreepress.net/10_01_01/War_on_Terror_Profitable/war_on_terror_profitable.html
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 23:11:52 (EDT)

My two cents are: Published on Thursday, August 10, 2000 in the Chicago Tribune Cheney's Black Gold: Oil Interests May Drive US Foreign Policy by Marjorie Cohn What do the Persian Gulf, the Caspian Sea and the Balkans have in common? U.S. domination in these areas serves the interests of corporate multimillionaires such as Dick Cheney. As George Bush's secretary of defense, Cheney was chief prosecutor of Operation Desert Storm in 1991. Humanitarian rhetoric notwithstanding, the bombing of Iraq--which continues to this day--was primarily aimed at keeping the Persian Gulf safe for U.S. oil interests. Shortly after Desert Storm, the Associated Press reported Cheney's desire to broaden the United States' military role in the region to hedge future threats to gulf oil resources. Cheney is CEO of Dallas-based Halliburton Co., the biggest oil-services company in the world. Because of the instability in the Persian Gulf, Cheney and his fellow oilmen have zeroed in on the world's other major source of oil--the Caspian Sea. Its rich oil and gas resources are estimated at $4 trillion by U.S. News and World Report. The Washington-based American Petroleum Institute, voice of the major U.S. oil companies, called the Caspian region, "the area of greatest resource potential outside of the Middle East." Cheney told a gaggle of oil industry executives in 1998, "I can't think of a time when we've had a region emerge as suddenly to become as strategically significant as the Caspian." But Caspian oil presents formidable obstacles. Landlocked between Russia, Iran and a group of former Soviet republics, the Caspian's "black gold" raises a transportation dilemma. Russia wants Caspian oil to run through its territory to the Black Sea. The United States, however, favors pipelines through its ally, Turkey. Although the cheapest route would traverse Iran to the Persian Gulf, U.S. sanctions against Iran block this alternative. Cheney has lobbied long and hard, as recently as June, for the lifting of those sanctions, to lubricate the Iran-Caspian connection. This is consistent with his position, described in a 1997 article in The Oil and Gas Journal, that oil and gas companies must do business in countries with policies unpalatable to the U.S. Cheney also favors the repeal of section 907 of the 1992 Freedom Support Act, which severely restricts U.S. aid to Azerbaijan because of its ethnic cleansing of the Armenians in Nagorno Karabakh, a mountainous enclave in Azerbaijan. Why would Cheney choose to ignore Azerbaijan's human-rights violations? Because Azerbaijan, key to the richest Caspian oil deposits, is, according to the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, "in fact, the focal point of the next round in the Great Game of Nations, a dangerous, hot-headed place with a Klondike of wealth beneath it. It is Bosnia with oil." Cheney's oily fingerprints are all over the Balkans as well. Last year, Halliburton's Brown & Root Division was awarded a $180 million a year contract to supply U.S. forces in the Balkans. Cheney also sits on the board of directors of Lockheed Martin, the world's largest defense contractor. Replacing munitions used in the Balkans could result in $1 billion in new contracts. War is big business and Dick Cheney is right in the middle of it. Meanwhile, our energy and gasoline prices continue to soar in many parts of the United States. OPEC controls the oil production in the Persian Gulf. Cheney, worried about a falloff in investment, spoke in favor of OPEC cutting oil production so oil and gasoline prices could rise. Cheney is ineluctably invested in keeping the world safe for his investments. Although he stepped down as CEO of Halliburton, he still owns shares of stock in the conglomerate and his financial interests in the Persian Gulf, the Caspian region and the Balkans will invariably continue. Chosen by George W. Bush to bring foreign-policy expertise to the GOP presidential ticket, we can expect a Republic administration to increase U.S. intervention in regions when it suits Dick Cheney's oil and other corporate concerns.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 23:02:56 (EDT)

My two cents are: World > Americas from the May 31, 2002 edition US poised to take terror war to Colombia But greater congressional scrutiny on human rights is likely following Uribe's win Sunday. By Howard LaFranchi | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor BOGOT�, COLOMBIA - Reflecting a growing focus of the international war on terrorism, the Bush administration is asking Congress to allow military aid to Colombia to be used not just against drug trafficking, but against Colombia's guerrilla groups as well. Using a similar argument that sent military trainers and assistance to places like the Philippines, Georgia, Uzbekistan, and Sri Lanka, the US now says Colombia's rebels - once just "Marxist insurgents" - are "narco-terrorists" funded largely by the illegal cocaine trade. http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0531/p08s01-woam.html
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 22:54:57 (EDT)

My two cents are: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20020522/pl_nm/cuba_usa_dc_2
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 22:41:03 (EDT)

My two cents are: Why did Al Gore want a cock ring? Because Bush has a Dick Cheney.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 22:33:31 (EDT)

My two cents are: And yet, there is no end in sight to the yellow days. Yellow, as in, there will be more. It is inevitable. Is it a yellow day even in the Tri-State Area?
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 22:32:24 (EDT)

My two cents are: Bush builds case for pre-emptive strikes The New York Times (Washington, January 30) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In reviewing the dangers that confront the United States, President Bush last night laid the basis for an ambitious campaign of diplomatic pressure and potential military action against Iraq and other hostile nations that are seeking to develop weapons of mass destruction. Following the September 11 terrorist attacks, the Bush administration's principal goal has been to dismantle the Qaeda terrorist network and to topple the Taliban rulers who gave it sanctuary. The president also indicated his readiness to take the fight against international terrorists to the Philippines, West Asia and Africa, and renewed warnings against governments that shield terrorists, invoking what has come to be known as the Bush doctrine. But last night the president significantly broadened that doctrine, expanding it to include states that might threaten the US with weapons of mass destruction. Terrorism, he argued, was not the paramount danger facing the US. Equally worrisome, he insisted, were efforts by Iraq, Iran and North Korea to develop nuclear, chemical and biological weapons. Bush described those dangers as so great that he seemed to be building an argument in some cases for potential, pre-emptive military action. "I will not wait on events while dangers gather," he vowed. "I will not stand by as peril draws closer and closer. The United States will not permit the world's most dangerous regimes to threaten us with the world's most destructive weapons." It was the strongest oratory that the president has used to date to describe Iraq's pursuit of weapons of mass destruction and the US determination to neutralise that threat. Bush cast Iraq, Iran and North Korea as the essence of evil. He described their pursuit of weapons of mass destruction as an imminent danger that needed to be dealt with quickly as well as decisively. Or as he put it, "We will be deliberate, yet time is not on our side." There is no consensus among senior administration officials, on dealing with Iraq, and Bush last night did not explicitly refer to a military campaign. But his description of the threat was so urgent and his call to action so stark that he has essentially accepted the hawks' definition of the problem. Saddam Hussein has now been pushed toward the top of Washington's foreign policy agenda. "He has laid down a new marker," said Ivo Daalder, a foreign policy specialist at the Brookings Institution. "The hard-liners have been arguing that after September 11 it is intolerable to live in a world in which Iraq, Iran and North Korea have weapons of mass destruction. �Bush has now fully embraced this paradigm. He has made clear that either these regimes or their weapons capabilities must go."
we've only just begun
- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 22:32:18 (EDT)

My two cents are: A born-again interventionist like I said.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 22:30:25 (EDT)

My two cents are: Yet the war on terror will not be won on the defensive. We must take the battle to the enemy, disrupt his plans, and confront the worst threats before they emerge. In the world we have entered, the only path to safety is the path of action. And this nation will act.---- The choices we will face are complex. We must uncover terror cells in 60 or more countries, using every tool of finance, intelligence and law enforcement. Along with our friends and allies, we must oppose proliferation and confront regimes that sponsor terror, as each case requires. Some nations need military training to fight terror, and we'll provide it. Other nations oppose terror, but tolerate the hatred that leads to terror -- and that must change. We will send diplomats where they are needed, and we will send you, our soldiers, where you're needed. All nations that decide for aggression and terror will pay a price. We will not leave the safety of America and the peace of the planet at the mercy of a few mad terrorists and tyrants. We will lift this dark threat from our country and from the world
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 22:14:57 (EDT)

My two cents are: Remarks by the President at 2002 Graduation Exercise of the United States Military Academy West Point, New York 9:13 A.M. EDT THE PRESIDENT: Thank you very much, General Lennox. Mr. Secretary, Governor Pataki, members of the United States Congress, Academy staff and faculty, distinguished guests, proud family members, and graduates: I want to thank you for your welcome. Laura and I are especially honored to visit this great institution in your bicentennial year. In every corner of America, the words "West Point" command immediate respect. This place where the Hudson River bends is more than a fine institution of learning. The United States Military Academy is the guardian of values that have shaped the soldiers who have shaped the history of the world. A few of you have followed in the path of the perfect West Point graduate, Robert E. Lee, who never received a single demerit in four years. Some of you followed in the path of the imperfect graduate, Ulysses S. Grant, who had his fair share of demerits, and said the happiest day of his life was "the day I left West Point." During my college years I guess you could say I was -- During my college years I guess you could say I was a Grant man. You walk in the tradition of Eisenhower and MacArthur, Patton and Bradley - the commanders who saved a civilization. And you walk in the tradition of second lieutenants who did the same, by fighting and dying on distant battlefields. Graduates of this academy have brought creativity and courage to every field of endeavor. West Point produced the chief engineer of the Panama Canal, the mind behind the Manhattan Project, the first American to walk in space. This fine institution gave us the man they say invented baseball, and other young men over the years who perfected the game of football. You know this, but many in America don't -- George C. Marshall, a VMI graduate, is said to have given this order: "I want an officer for a secret and dangerous mission. I want a West Point football player." As you leave here today, I know there's one thing you'll never miss about this place: Being a plebe. But even a plebe at West Point is made to feel he or she has some standing in the world. I'm told that plebes, when asked whom they outrank, are required to answer this: "Sir, the Superintendent's dog -- the Commandant's cat, and all the admirals in the whole damn Navy." I probably won't be sharing that with the Secretary of the Navy. West Point is guided by tradition, and in honor of the "Golden Children of the Corps," -- I will observe one of the traditions you cherish most. As the Commander-in-Chief, I hereby grant amnesty to all cadets who are on restriction for minor conduct offenses. Those of you in the end zone might have cheered a little early. Because, you see, I'm going to let General Lennox define exactly what "minor" means. Every West Point class is commissioned to the Armed Forces. Some West Point classes are also commissioned by history, to take part in a great new calling for their country. Speaking here to the class of 1942 -- six months after Pearl Harbor -- General Marshall said, "We're determined that before the sun sets on this terrible struggle, our flag will be recognized throughout the world as a symbol of freedom on the one hand, and of overwhelming power on the other." Officers graduating that year helped fulfill that mission, defeating Japan and Germany, and then reconstructing those nations as allies. West Point graduates of the 1940s saw the rise of a deadly new challenge -- the challenge of imperial communism -- and opposed it from Korea to Berlin, to Vietnam, and in the Cold War, from beginning to end. And as the sun set on their struggle, many of those West Point officers lived to see a world transformed. History has also issued its call to your generation. In your last year, America was attacked by a ruthless and resourceful enemy. You graduate from this Academy in a time of war, taking your place in an American military that is powerful and is honorable. Our war on terror is only begun, but in Afghanistan it was begun well. I am proud of the men and women who have fought on my orders. America is profoundly grateful for all who serve the cause of freedom, and for all who have given their lives in its defense. This nation respects and trusts our military, and we are confident in your victories to come. This war will take many turns we cannot predict. Yet I am certain of this: Wherever we carry it, the American flag will stand not only for our power, but for freedom. Our nation's cause has always been larger than our nation's defense. We fight, as we always fight, for a just peace -- a peace that favors human liberty. We will defend the peace against threats from terrorists and tyrants. We will preserve the peace by building good relations among the great powers. And we will extend the peace by encouraging free and open societies on every continent. Building this just peace is America's opportunity, and America's duty. From this day forward, it is your challenge, as well, and we will meet this challenge together. You will wear the uniform of a great and unique country. America has no empire to extend or utopia to establish. We wish for others only what we wish for ourselves -- safety from violence, the rewards of liberty, and the hope for a better life. In defending the peace, we face a threat with no precedent. Enemies in the past needed great armies and great industrial capabilities to endanger the American people and our nation. The attacks of September the 11th required a few hundred thousand dollars in the hands of a few dozen evil and deluded men. All of the chaos and suffering they caused came at much less than the cost of a single tank. The dangers have not passed. This government and the American people are on watch, we are ready, because we know the terrorists have more money and more men and more plans. The gravest danger to freedom lies at the perilous crossroads of radicalism and technology. When the spread of chemical and biological and nuclear weapons, along with ballistic missile technology -- when that occurs, even weak states and small groups could attain a catastrophic power to strike great nations. Our enemies have declared this very intention, and have been caught seeking these terrible weapons. They want the capability to blackmail us, or to harm us, or to harm our friends -- and we will oppose them with all our power. (Applause.) For much of the last century, America's defense relied on the Cold War doctrines of deterrence and containment. In some cases, those strategies still apply. But new threats also require new thinking. Deterrence -- the promise of massive retaliation against nations -- means nothing against shadowy terrorist networks with no nation or citizens to defend. Containment is not possible when unbalanced dictators with weapons of mass destruction can deliver those weapons on missiles or secretly provide them to terrorist allies. We cannot defend America and our friends by hoping for the best. We cannot put our faith in the word of tyrants, who solemnly sign non-proliferation treaties, and then systemically break them. If we wait for threats to fully materialize, we will have waited too long. Homeland defense and missile defense are part of stronger security, and they're essential priorities for America. Yet the war on terror will not be won on the defensive. We must take the battle to the enemy, disrupt his plans, and confront the worst threats before they emerge. In the world we have entered, the only path to safety is the path of action. And this nation will act. Our security will require the best intelligence, to reveal threats hidden in caves and growing in laboratories. Our security will require modernizing domestic agencies such as the FBI, so they're prepared to act, and act quickly, against danger. Our security will require transforming the military you will lead -- a military that must be ready to strike at a moment's notice in any dark corner of the world. And our security will require all Americans to be forward-looking and resolute, to be ready for preemptive action when necessary to defend our liberty and to defend our lives. The work ahead is difficult. The choices we will face are complex. We must uncover terror cells in 60 or more countries, using every tool of finance, intelligence and law enforcement. Along with our friends and allies, we must oppose proliferation and confront regimes that sponsor terror, as each case requires. Some nations need military training to fight terror, and we'll provide it. Other nations oppose terror, but tolerate the hatred that leads to terror -- and that must change. We will send diplomats where they are needed, and we will send you, our soldiers, where you're needed. All nations that decide for aggression and terror will pay a price. We will not leave the safety of America and the peace of the planet at the mercy of a few mad terrorists and tyrants. We will lift this dark threat from our country and from the world. Because the war on terror will require resolve and patience, it will also require firm moral purpose. In this way our struggle is similar to the Cold War. Now, as then, our enemies are totalitarians, holding a creed of power with no place for human dignity. Now, as then, they seek to impose a joyless conformity, to control every life and all of life. America confronted imperial communism in many different ways -- diplomatic, economic, and military. Yet moral clarity was essential to our victory in the Cold War. When leaders like John F. Kennedy and Ronald Reagan refused to gloss over the brutality of tyrants, they gave hope to prisoners and dissidents and exiles, and rallied free nations to a great cause. Some worry that it is somehow undiplomatic or impolite to speak the language of right and wrong. I disagree. Different circumstances require different methods, but not different moralities. Moral truth is the same in every culture, in every time, and in every place. Targeting innocent civilians for murder is always and everywhere wrong. ( Brutality against women is always and everywhere wrong. There can be no neutrality between justice and cruelty, between the innocent and the guilty. We are in a conflict between good and evil, and America will call evil by its name. By confronting evil and lawless regimes, we do not create a problem, we reveal a problem. And we will lead the world in opposing it. As we defend the peace, we also have an historic opportunity to preserve the peace. We have our best chance since the rise of the nation state in the 17th century to build a world where the great powers compete in peace instead of prepare for war. The history of the last century, in particular, was dominated by a series of destructive national rivalries that left battlefields and graveyards across the Earth. Germany fought France, the Axis fought the Allies, and then the East fought the West, in proxy wars and tense standoffs, against a backdrop of nuclear Armageddon. Competition between great nations is inevitable, but armed conflict in our world is not. More and more, civilized nations find ourselves on the same side -- united by common dangers of terrorist violence and chaos. America has, and intends to keep, military strengths beyond challenge -- thereby, making the destabilizing arms races of other eras pointless, and limiting rivalries to trade and other pursuits of peace. Today the great powers are also increasingly united by common values, instead of divided by conflicting ideologies. The United States, Japan and our Pacific friends, and now all of Europe, share a deep commitment to human freedom, embodied in strong alliances such as NATO. And the tide of liberty is rising in many other nations. Generations of West Point officers planned and practiced for battles with Soviet Russia. I've just returned from a new Russia, now a country reaching toward democracy, and our partner in the war against terror. .Even in China, leaders are discovering that economic freedom is the only lasting source of national wealth. In time, they will find that social and political freedom is the only true source of national greatness. When the great powers share common values, we are better able to confront serious regional conflicts together, better able to cooperate in preventing the spread of violence or economic chaos. In the past, great power rivals took sides in difficult regional problems, making divisions deeper and more complicated. Today, from the Middle East to South Asia, we are gathering broad international coalitions to increase the pressure for peace. We must build strong and great power relations when times are good; to help manage crisis when times are bad. America needs partners to preserve the peace, and we will work with every nation that shares this noble goal. And finally, America stands for more than the absence of war. We have a great opportunity to extend a just peace, by replacing poverty, repression, and resentment around the world with hope of a better day. Through most of history, poverty was persistent, inescapable, and almost universal. In the last few decades, we've seen nations from Chile to South Korea build modern economies and freer societies, lifting millions of people out of despair and want. And there's no mystery to this achievement. The 20th century ended with a single surviving model of human progress, based on non-negotiable demands of human dignity, the rule of law, limits on the power of the state, respect for women and private property and free speech and equal justice and religious tolerance. America cannot impose this vision -- yet we can support and reward governments that make the right choices for their own people. In our development aid, in our diplomatic efforts, in our international broadcasting, and in our educational assistance, the United States will promote moderation and tolerance and human rights. And we will defend the peace that makes all progress possible. When it comes to the common rights and needs of men and women, there is no clash of civilizations. The requirements of freedom apply fully to Africa and Latin America and the entire Islamic world. The peoples of the Islamic nations want and deserve the same freedoms and opportunities as people in every nation. And their governments should listen to their hopes. A truly strong nation will permit legal avenues of dissent for all groups that pursue their aspirations without violence. An advancing nation will pursue economic reform, to unleash the great entrepreneurial energy of its people. A thriving nation will respect the rights of women, because no society can prosper while denying opportunity to half its citizens. Mothers and fathers and children across the Islamic world, and all the world, share the same fears and aspirations. In poverty, they struggle. In tyranny, they suffer. And as we saw in Afghanistan, in liberation they celebrate. America has a greater objective than controlling threats and containing resentment. We will work for a just and peaceful world beyond the war on terror. The bicentennial class of West Point now enters this drama. With all in the United States Army, you will stand between your fellow citizens and grave danger. You will help establish a peace that allows millions around the world to live in liberty and to grow in prosperity. You will face times of calm, and times of crisis. And every test will find you prepared -- because you're the men and women of West Point. You leave here marked by the character of this Academy, carrying with you the highest ideals of our nation. Toward the end of his life, Dwight Eisenhower recalled the first day he stood on the plain at West Point. "The feeling came over me," he said, "that the expression 'the United States of America' would now and henceforth mean something different than it had ever before. From here on, it would be the nation I would be serving, not myself." Today, your last day at West Point, you begin a life of service in a career unlike any other. You've answered a calling to hardship and purpose, to risk and honor. At the end of every day you will know that you have faithfully done your duty. May you always bring to that duty the high standards of this great American institution. May you always be worthy of the long gray line that stretches two centuries behind you. On behalf of the nation, I congratulate each one of you for the commission you've earned and for the credit you bring to the United States of America. May God bless you all.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 22:04:05 (EDT)

My two cents are: Hope the Lakers win especially because of those damn cowbells.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 21:55:55 (EDT)

My two cents are: It's code, I guess. At least it's better than that sick stuff about the "alignment of the planets."
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 21:08:02 (EDT)

My two cents are: I'm thinking of meeting up with Joan at about 5 tomorrow. What say?
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 20:47:15 (EDT)

My two cents are: Still, it's a little awkward when Larry Suspenders asks what FBI "reforms" are in the works and Ashcroft says something like, "I'm glad you asked, Larry. We're realy proud of these new ideas," then reads the ideas he's so fucking proud of from off a sheet of paper on the table next to his left elbow. I wouldn't have looked any worse if he just held it in front of his rodent-like face and pointed at the words he was reading.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 20:29:48 (EDT)

My two cents are: It's so reassuring to know the AG has to get the facts from Newsweek and wait for digestive process to set in before he knows what's going on. Understand that he might need cheat sheet, else he might sound like his boss.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 20:17:50 (EDT)

My two cents are: I get the feeling Ashcroft is really kind of dense and probably quite lazy. There is no indication he's got anything upstairs any more than, say, Snippy himself. A corpse got more votes than him for Christ sake. A majority of his state's voters took the time to pull the lever for a stiff.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 20:09:00 (EDT)

My two cents are: Then he'll have an airtight excuse for being clueless.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 20:05:50 (EDT)

My two cents are: Let's just hope that Ashcroft doesn't cut the Newsweek subscription from the budget.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 19:34:07 (EDT)

My two cents are: Maybe nobody prepared a new cheat sheet for him.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 18:04:06 (EDT)

My two cents are: It's reassuring that Ashcroft has to read the whole Newsweek article before he can comment on anything. How's he supposed to know anything about intelligence failures until he reads the weekly news magazines?
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 18:03:34 (EDT)

My two cents are: The pioneers didn't have a flag dangling from the back of that covered wagon?
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 17:27:27 (EDT)

My two cents are: Report: CIA Knew Two Sept. 11 Hijackers Were in U.S. Sun Jun 2,12:11 PM ET -- NEW YORK (Reuters)-- Months before the Sept. 11 attacks, the CIA knew two of the hijackers were in the United States and that they were connected to the al Qaeda organization, Newsweek reported on Sunday. According to the report that will hit newsstands on Monday, the intelligence was never passed along to the FBI , which now asserts that if it had known, agents could have uncovered the terrorist plot. Newsweek said the CIA became aware of one of the terrorists, Nawaf Alhazmi, a few days after he attended a secret planning meeting of Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda in Malaysia in January 2000. Agents also discovered that another of the men, Khalid Almihdhar, had already obtained a multiple-entry visa that allowed him to enter and leave the United States at will. The magazine said the CIA did nothing with the information, neither notifying the FBI, which could have tracked the two men, or the Immigration and Naturalization Service, which could have turned them away at the border. Instead, Newsweek said that for a year and nine months after the CIA identified them as terrorists, Alhazmi and Almihdhar lived openly in the United States, using their real names, obtaining driver's licenses, opening bank accounts and enrolling in flight schools. On the morning of Sept. 11, they boarded one of the four hijacked airliners, American Airlines Flight 77, and crashed it into the Pentagon. Some 3,000 people died in the attacks outside Washington and in New York and rural Pennsylvania. Appearing on the "Fox News Sunday" program, U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft said he had been given the Newsweek report but had not "had a chance to digest this story ... to read it thoroughly and get the details." Nonetheless, Ashcroft added, "We are at war. We need to seize on every possibility for preventing additional attacks. That is our strategy. That is our responsibility, and we need to coordinate the activities between our agencies." Newsweek said the information was held at the CIA's Counterterrorism Center, the base camp for the agency's war on bin Laden. The magazine said that when Almihdhar's visa expired, the State Department, not knowing any better, issued him a new one in July 2001, even though the CIA had linked him to one of the suspected bombers of the USS Cole in Yemen in October 2000. The FBI now is asserting that the two terrorists' frequent meetings with the other Sept. 11 hijackers could have provided federal agents with a road map to the entire cast, the magazine said. But the FBI didn't know it was supposed to be looking for them until three weeks before the strikes, when CIA Director George Tenet, worried an attack was imminent, ordered a review. An all-points bulletin was sent on Aug. 23, 2001, launching law enforcement agents on an urgent and futile search for the two men. Newsweek said FBI officials have prepared a detailed chart showing how agents could have uncovered the terrorist plot if they had learned about Almihdhar and Alhazmi sooner, given their contacts with at least five of the other hijackers.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 17:22:09 (EDT)

My two cents are: It's not a "war" until the government starts putting special taxes on the people who will profit monetarily from it-- for example high "sacrifice" income-tax rates on the rich, and the inheritance tax as instituted in WWII. Until then, it's just a feeding frenzy of what Eisenhower, in the Republican haze of his later years, called the "military-industrial complex."
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- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 17:08:08 (EDT)

My two cents are: Must have been an in-town car or a car used only to go to and from the station. A suburb car or exurb can would have had the flag all tattered off from the high-speed driving before it could fade. You know, when I was a kid back in the McCarthy days we had flags too. I think flags have been around for a long time, at least a thousand years, probably more. It's just that they were never stuck on personal vehicles like antenna balls or Tijuana dingle bobbers. Guess people just weren't patriotic back in historical times.
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- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 16:59:03 (EDT)

My two cents are: If there's more charismatic mega-terrorism like the desert loon-balls driving the airplanes into the towers, and then the towers unexpectedly falling down, I suppose that most of us will be able to call it Round II, yes. On the other hand, those who were not at hand, who were say, off in some meaningless former protectorate or pretending to be African explorers, those persons might as well call it Round I, because that is what it will be for them.
House of Meat
- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 16:54:58 (EDT)

My two cents are: Saw a big flag on a car antenna today. Orange, grey and robin's egg blue, having faded over the months. Geesh, I thought, flags are ssso 9/11.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 16:49:28 (EDT)

My two cents are: He almost won an election with that "philosophy." Came damn closer than anyone could have imagined. In a way, this frees him from keeping his promises. The majority of the people rejected his "philosophy" anyway, so why not blow it off?
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 16:16:22 (EDT)

My two cents are: Traitor! When Snippy was running, he was promising to follow a certain "philosophy," kind of an isolationist philosophy. It was in contrast to the Clinton philosophy that was predicated on real life. The Republican likes to spout "philosophy" when real life seems realtively under control. Look, Snippy got bit in the ass and now all bets are off. Screw isolationism. We're at "war" because he says we're at war. This will require us to actually start about 60 wars. Proactivity. Intervention. It just takes a whiff of reality to watch a load like Snippy's philosophy got down the dumper.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 15:58:04 (EDT)

My two cents are: Yes, Pete, it's inevitable. It will always be inevitable. The inevitablility of it is absolute. So, are we winning the "war?" Why does Ashcroft have to read what's planned for the FBI? Too distracted by calico cats and naked statues? Why is Snippy saying we need to intervene all over the globe? Isn't this the opposite of what the lame brain ran on?
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 15:52:30 (EDT)

My two cents are: Look, Pete� am what he am, not Spam or ham. I guess Round II of Terrorism is about to hit? Are teh liberals covering their skinny arses? Doink.
Pete�
- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 15:18:42 (EDT)

My two cents are: Or, maybe they're all clueless.
Harl
- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 14:48:12 (EDT)

My two cents are: Yeah,t hat's a bitch alright. Anyway, I saw Pinched-Loaf Ashcroft on Larry King the other night, pimping the "new, improved" FBI. It was pretty embarrassing. During close-ups, when the loonball was talking, his eyes would repeatedly glance down and to his left. Shit, I thought, the crank is reading from notes. Sure enough, during the long shots, you could actually see the paper he was reading from. Like, Larry would ask a question and Ashcroft would say something like, "I'm glad you asked that, Larry, that's a very good question," buying time until he could find the answer on his cheat sheet. Then he'd read the answer as best he could without holding the paper right in front of his constipated face. Half the time, he'd be winging it, having lost his place. He'd then have to correct himself when he found what he was supposed to be looking for. It made me feel insecure, like maybe these days aren't really yellow at all. Maybe they're red, maybe they're green and maybe none of these yahoos in the Bush adminsistration* are clueless. Let's roll.
Harlan St. Wolf
- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 14:47:36 (EDT)

My two cents are: Brought some four by sixes and two by's to make a sort of deck and stairs outside the French doors, figuring to buy some new redwood to cover and dang, about a hundred square foot of redwood deck boards run around two hundred bucks. What's that, buck a board foot... It must be these people out there in the bogus-farm country of the eastern magalopolis driving up he price is all I can figure. It's like the Dungeness crab, used to be the food of the common man, a poor-man's feed, then all the fags moved in from Nebraska and other eastern states and drove up the price making gourmet crab-cake and Jell-o salads just like grandma would do with the canned tuna or the catfish from the pond. Shit, redwood used to be the cheapest stuff going, next to your pine. Now you'd think it was freaking okume or teak.
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- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 13:08:01 (EDT)

My two cents are: Yep. And all the pinched loaves you could ask for.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 12:23:31 (EDT)

My two cents are: True, we have a rather witty brand of right-wingers around here. All three can keep the yucks coming, whether it is about dead Negroes, teen-age hermaphrodites, of the loose morals of their children. Oh, it's twats wide open and big ones cumming and dead niggers and juicy young neighborhood queers on fornigate!
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 11:38:46 (EDT)

My two cents are: Haw haw haw, "another dead nigger" haw haw, geesh-o-reeno that's hilarious! Haw!
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 11:36:09 (EDT)

My two cents are: worst kind o nugger is the geeky nird
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 10:40:42 (EDT)

My two cents are: No, Pete, "nigger" is spelled with an "e."
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- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 10:36:43 (EDT)

My two cents are: As a veteratn of foreign wars, I can attest that I'm quite relieved that Rush Limbaugh was not forced to fight with that hickey on his asshole. Suppose the fat boy is in the next hole, right, and we're sweating a gook patrol fifty, sixty clicks out... now suppose the fat man has got to lift a leg and reach those big fingernails down under his fatigues and scratch that puppy? It's going to sound like a martini-shaker, right, and bring Charlie in like flies to dogshit. No, there are some people you're happy they never did their patriotic duty. The fat sonofabitch would have got guys like me killed, so as much as he was perfect for a lifetime in the Army it was damn lucky he had the out.
Get Some�
- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 10:34:24 (EDT)

My two cents are: "'He got what he wanted,' said Abdullah Ramadawn, a friend and fellow Georgian who used to drive him home after prayers."
got what we wanted too <'nuther dead niggar>
- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 10:31:33 (EDT)

My two cents are: "... the restless kid from Atlanta had grown up in a wealthy family attending Ebenezer Baptist Church, the home pulpit of Martin Luther King Jr. A soft-spoken youth with long dreadlocks, al-Amreekee had a passion for sky diving and reading books..."
end of the "blacks are poor" myth
- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 10:28:38 (EDT)

My two cents are: If she has the unfortunate Breightly Squash Face, just have her turn her head to the side and thrust her pelvis forward. Thanks, Glunp, this will be great for those of us who are not into hermaprodites!
got a big one cumming
- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 10:27:39 (EDT)

My two cents are: And out into the garage and then down, down, onto the greasy tarps, flecked with wood shavings and globs of tar and yes, something that looks suscpiciously like.... and there, writhing on the tarps, can anyone say that nothing was added to the adhering materials?
please post a photo of the daughter... nekkid if possible
- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 10:25:46 (EDT)

My two cents are: 12 quarts of what?
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- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 10:21:33 (EDT)

My two cents are: #6 daugther went to her 2nd prom dance in as may weeks last night. Her date arrived just as I was rewinding a videotape, getting ready to make a partial dupe. The town tree committee, chaired by the banker's wife, had asked me to vidio (verb) plantings of various tree varieties. Why? I don't know -- perhaps for a training video? Anyway, her date shows up in the family room wearing his tux and said, "Hi, how's the foot? What are you watching?" "Making a nature video, shut up and I'll show you." I hit STOP to halt the REWIND and press PLAY. Guess I rewound a teensy bit too far because suddenly right there on the 50" screen, dressed in a cat castume and crooning the CATS tune "Memories," was Brenda (ref. Monday, March 04, 2002 at 12:23:39 ). "So, what do you think of him?" I asked her date. "Him? You mean 'her?'" #6 grabbs suddenly appears and graabs him by the elbow and pulls him from the room.
Glint
- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 10:13:24 (EDT)

My two cents are: Phantasmagoria
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 02:49:55 (EDT)

My two cents are: My god, it's real.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 02:07:17 (EDT)

My two cents are: You know, I was just reflecting the other day, we've only been at this for -- we've haven't even been fighting this war for a year yet. And we've got a lot of work to do. And there will be moments where the al Qaeda thinks that, you know, maybe America is not after them, and they'll feel safe and secure. And, you know, they think they'll kind of settle into some cave somewhere
Dubya at war
- Sunday, June 02, 2002 at 01:34:49 (EDT)

My two cents are: Not being a faithful listener, I don�t really know if Rush still has an inflamed asshole. I mean, did he have asshole surgery after he got excused from service? Was there an operation, or did the thing just sort of pop and drain? I do know that he discussed his recent hearing problems on air and was just wondering if the subject of his asshole ever comes up. On the occasions I have caught segments of his show, he did seem a bit cranky; perhaps an asshole inflammation was to blame. However, I will admit to not listening long enough to find out. Are there ever phone conversations along the following line: Rush: Man, my asshole is really inflamed today. Caller: Mega dittos, Rush! Rush: I mean, cripes, this thing feels like it�s on fire!! Caller: Mega dittos, Rush! Rush: I mean, it feels like there�s about 12 quarts in there today. Caller: Mega dittos, Rush!
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 01, 2002 at 23:53:57 (EDT)

My two cents are: Guess I've got to take the oilskins off the video camera and start doing the rounds again. The magnificent little bandy-legged phrase-mangler has sounded the clarion call...
Aunt Peg
- Saturday, June 01, 2002 at 23:43:15 (EDT)

My two cents are: This Bush yap at West Point is nothing new, try as the lieberal media might to make it seem so. He was singing the same tune at the State of the Union address, when he had Glint and Pete marching down the aisle witnessing for America and vowing to join AmeriCorps. Whatever became of that? Glint went directly to whining because his daughter made enought to file a tax return and Pete, for all we can guess, probably just pounded the rubber walls a little harder the next full moon. Only the crynic patriotically calculated his share of his tax burden and turned the rest over to people without the wiles to hire grass-skirted financial advisors with genital warts. Why is it that right-wingers are so universally smarmy? Why are they so physically cowardly and inept? Don't they worry that some day the Dimbofarts will decide to stop taking care of them, and cast them out on their own to sink or swim?
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 01, 2002 at 23:40:04 (EDT)

My two cents are: The White House said more than 34,000 people have also signed up for Citizen Corps, which Bush said would "enable Americans to make their own neighborhoods safer." "Americans from every walk of life are heeding the call to service," Bush said. But he added: "America needs retired doctors and nurses who can be mobilized in emergencies; volunteers to help police and fire departments; and transportation and utility workers trained to spot danger." Bush made the appeal following a series of government warnings about possible attacks on rail and transit systems, and major U.S. landmarks. FBI Director Robert Mueller said another attack was inevitable.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 01, 2002 at 23:30:12 (EDT)

My two cents are: Interesting that president Snippy should compare himself to President Grant.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 01, 2002 at 23:26:52 (EDT)

My two cents are: George W. Bush Texan Bush was born July 6, 1946, in New Haven, Connecticut (just east of Texas). Saved by God from actual service (landing a plum spot in the Air National Guard thanks to, um, God), he managed to compound his disgrace, going AWOL from FAKE SERVICE during wartime! D. C. Carter and Samuel Reyna Private First Class Carter was born a month after Bush in New Haven (August 8, 1946); killed November 12, 1969 in South Vietnam. If you buy the Bush-as-Texan story, consider Reyna, who was born the same day as Bush (July 6, 1946) but across the country in Corpus Cristi, Texas. Corporal Reyna was killed in South Vietnam just as Bush was about to graduate from Yale (April 20, 1968). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dick Cheney Born January 30, 1941 in Lincoln, Nebraska. No heart for war, really, at least not on the battlefield. Cameron Trent McAllister Born on the same day (January 30, 1941) in Omaha, Nebraska, Staff Sergeant McAllister was killed September 7, 1969 in South Vietnam. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lynne V. Cheney The most repugnantly vocal warmongering princess on the list (not counting George Will), Loudmouth Lynne was born August 14, 1941 (the same day as David Crosby) in Casper, Wyoming. Lynne studied English, but had she followed her dream of being a nurse (we're not sure about the dream, but it probably crossed her mind -- we're checking), she might have followed the same path as... Sharon Ann Lane Born on July 7, 1943 in Canton, Ohio, Sharon Ann Lane was one of the women who served in combat before women were allowed to serve in combat. Inches from the front lines, Lieutenant Sharon Ann Lane was killed in South Vietnam June 8, 1969. (You can see a fellow combat nurse remembering her lost friend in the documentary "Long Time Coming," and you should.) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Karl Rove Christmas baby and evil puppetmaster Rove was born December 25, 1950 in Denver, Colorado. He claims to have been too busy cutting his teeth on politics to show up for war. Now, he professionally exploits war for Republican candidates, encouraging them to sow fear in America, which is (apparently) not the same thing as terrorism. Ronald Gene Thomas Ten days earlier, Ronald Gene Thomas was also born in Denver (December 15, 1950). By foolishly showing up for war, he was killed in South Vietnam on July 14, 1969. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dennis Hastert Republican teddy bear Hastert was born January 2, 1942 in Aurora, Illinois. His chief function (besides warmongering) is to not be Newt Gingrich, a task which everyone agrees he has performed admirably. Patrick Lawrence Haley Captain Haley was born the same day (January 2, 1942) a few miles away in La Salle, Illinois. Missing (declared dead) in South Vietnam since April 18, 1967, there's always the chance that he's not dead, just lost or something, which must be some comfort to the cuddly Hastert. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Trent Lott Former cheerleader (really!) Trent (born October 9, 1941, in Grenada County, Mississippi) has been shouting "Kill 'em!" since his college days. Sammie Lee Watt Also born in Grenada County Mississippi (almost a year earlier, January 25, 1941), PFC Watt was killed in South Vietnam on April Fool's Day, 1967. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dick Armey Cando, North Dakota ("You can-do better in Cando!") welcomed this future frothing lunatic into the world July 7, 1940. He carried the Can-do spirit all the way to the battlefield! Or, rather, didn't, choosing instead to carry the "can-LIVE-if-I-keep-my-ass-out-of-that-battlefield" spirit. David Allen Bujalski A month later, in Carrington, North Dakota, David Allan Bujalski was born (August 15, 1940). While Armey was working up some of his early froths back in the comfy U. S. of A., Captain Bujalski was killed in South Vietnam (August 15, 1967). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tom DeLay Probably the most ludicrous man in Congress, DeLay started out as a vaguely innocent-looking baby on April 8, 1947 in Laredo, Texas. If you want something insane done (other than actual combat), get Tom DeLay to do it. Antonio Garcia Also in Laredo, Texas some weeks later (May 20, 1947), young Antonio Garcia started his short life. He was killed May 1, 1968 in South Vietnam. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Ashcroft Born May 9, 1942 in Chicago, Illinois. Dead men haunt John Ashcroft, with one rather famously beating him in a Senate election. As a consolation prize, he got his own giant, secret police force and a heavily expurgated Constitution. (Ed. - We love John Ashcroft. He is a loving and benevolent overlord. We are not implying in any way that he should feel any guilt at all about PFC McCall.) Dimitrious Cortez McCall When baby John was just two days old, baby Dimitrious joined the Chicago scene (May 11, 1942). March 3, 1968, PFC McCall was killed in South Korea. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Newt Gingrich What more can be said about Newt Gingrich, except that he was, apparently, born. He has a mother (she thinks he's going to be president), who gave birth to a live baby on June 17, 1943 in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. Jerry Potts June 13, 1943 in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, Jerry Potts was born. Unlike Gingrich, however, Corporal Potts took an ill-conceived trip to South Vietnam, where he was killed on November 26, 1966. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Gramm There was a turtle by the name of Burt, and Burt the turtle was very a-lert. When danger reared its ugly head, he knew just what to do... He'd duck! and co-ver... (Born July 8, 1942, Fort Benning, Georgia; ducked out of military service some years later) Roland Nathaniel Barnaby Born a few months later in Fort Benning, Georgia (September 12, 1948), Specialist Fifth Class Barnaby died four days after Gramm's birthday, July 12, 1968 in South Vietnam. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Don Nickles Born in Ponca City, Oklahoma, December 6, 1948. A(nother) day that will live in infamy. Edgar Allen Campbell Another 1948 Ponca City, Oklahoma native (born October 10, 1948) took a much different career path. PFC Campbell was killed December 19, 1967 in South Vietnam. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- J. C. Watts Republican golden boy was born November 18, 1957 in Eufaula, Oklahoma. That made him a little young for Vietnam and a little old for Desert Storm. Had he joined up, however, he might have been lucky enough to be an officer by the time Grenada rolled around. Nobody from Oklahoma was among the 19 Americans killed in Grenada (including the one killed by Americans). You shoulda served, JC. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Richard Shelby Older than most of the survivors on this page, Shelby was born May 6, 1934 in Birmingham, Alabama. Spencer Adams Born the same day (May 6, 1934) in Mobile, Alabama, Staff Sergeant Adams was killed February 15, 1968 in South Vietnam. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dan Quayle Kinda looks like Robert Redford, doesn't he? (born February 4, 1947 in Indianapolis, Indiana) Roy Rogers Roark February 16, 1947, young Roy Rogers Roark was also born in Indianapolis. PFC Roark was killed November 22, 1966 in South Vietnam. No word on what movie star he resembled. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- George Will Prissy commentator and baseball fan George Will was born in Champaign, Illinois some time in 1941. He never met a war he didn't like, as long as he didn't personally have to fight. Rumor has it he hid out in divinity school, hoping to become a pedophile. Terrence John Mortensen Another Champaign native, born November 18, 1947. Warrant Officer Mortensen's potential career in baseball criticism was cut short with his death in South Vietnam, April 15, 1969. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Bennett Chapel Hill, North Carolina got a lot more grumpy on July 31, 1943 with the birth of future scold William J. Bennett. Years before he wrote "Why We Fight," he made a point of not actually fighting. Joel Miller Leigh Another summer baby from Chapel Hill, North Carolina (August 27, 1945) actually didfight, and was killed in South Vietnam December 9, 1968. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pat Buchanan If you don't know about Pat Buchanan, we can't help you. Born November 2, 1938 in Washington, D. C. Coleridge Williams, Junior Literally born on the 4th of July (1939), Williams was a Staff Sergeant by the time he was killed in South Vietnam on May 24, 1967. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rush Limbaugh Limbaugh (born January 12, 1951 in Cape Girardeau, Missouri) gets a lot of criticism for being conveniently excused from service for a polonidial cyst -- a simple-to-treat condition that affects millions of people, including over 80,000 soldiers during World War II. What critics fail to take into account is the location of the cyst (near the asshole) combined with Limbaugh's conspicuously passionate homophobia. A man's asshole is his kingdom, and if he wants to be technically disabled by it rather than let some liberal doctor poke around in there, that's his right. Peter Joseph McCoy New Year's baby McCoy (January 1, 1951), of Berkeley, Missouri was a Private First Class in the Marines when he was killed on May 23, 1970 in South Vietnam. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- P. J. O'Rourke Republican writer P. J. O'Rourke was born November 14, 1947 in Toledo, Ohio. Six days later... Robert John Dutkiewicz was also born in Toledo, Ohio (November 20, 1947). November 15, 1971, the day after PJ's birthday (and five days before his own birthday), Corporal Dutkiewicz was killed in South Vietnam. Sadly, he never got to read PJ's book, Give War a Chance. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ken Starr Not necessarily a warmonger, but an enabler of warmongers. Born July 21, 1946 in tiny Vernon, Texas. Ronald M Romero On the very same day (July 21, 1946) in another tiny Texas town, Ronald M Romero began his life. Specialist Level Four Romero was killed in South Vietnam on December 11, 1968. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Future Chief Justice Antonin Scalia Born March 11, 1936 in Trenton, New Jersey. One of two Supreme Court justices who Bush deeply admires, both of whom are draft-dodging, narrow-minded, medievalist puritans. Scalia's the smart one. Alvin Crawford Hinson Born a week earlier (March 3, 1936) in Westville, New Jersey. Staff Sergeant Hinson was killed May 12, 1969 in South Vietnam. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas The other one. Born June 23, 1948 in Pin Point, Georgia. James Richard Thomas Another Thomas from a tiny town in Georgia (Jesup), James Richard was born July 17, 1946. Corporal Thomas (not Clarence, who did not serve) was killed in South Vietnam on May 10, 1969. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary Bauer Perennial presidential candidate, chronically locked in a contest to out-priss George Will. Born May 4, 1946 in Newport, Kentucky. Gary Stephen Jordan A couple months later (June 25, 1946), another Gary was born in Newport, Kentucky. PFC Jordan was killed in South Vietnam February 24, 1967. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alan Keyes Another perennial presidential candidate and warmonger, Keyes recently threatened a political cartoonist with criminal charges for drawing cartoons. Perhaps a tour of duty in Vietnam might have exposed him to some nice, mellowing Thai sticks, but we'll never know. Born August 7, 1950, in New York City, New York. Santos Rivera, Jr. Fellow New Yorker Santos Rivera, Jr. was born 5 days after Keyes (August 12, 1950). PFC Santos was killed July 9, 1969 in South Vietnam. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc Racicot Former Montana Governor, George W. Bush handler, and Republican bigwig. Born July 24, 1948 in Thompson Falls, Montana. Raymond Richard Piseno, Jr. The same day (July 24, 1948) in Forsyth, Montana, Raymond Richard Piseno, Jr. was born. Second Lieutenant Piseno was killed in South Vietnam December 11, 1969. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger Ailes The brains behind FOX News, Ailes is by far the funniest warmonger on this page. When it was his turn to serve his country, Mr. "We Report, You Decide" decided not to report. Born May 15, 1940 in Warren, Ohio. Sylvester Davis A couple of weeks later (May 30, 1940), baby Sylvester Davis was born in Akron, Ohio. Warrant Officer Davis was killed in South Vietnam on January 23, 1969. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ted Nugent Doubtless the happiest Republican on this page, Nuge has built a career on wild life (not wildlife), shooting things, and tango-ing his wango onstage. Despite his gun-crazy image, when his country called him to take up actual arms as part of a well-regulated militia, he cowered like a little girl and refused to go. Still, if someone else is called to be in harm's way, like Carl Washington over there, the wild man of rock is all for it. He was born December 13, 1948 in Detroit, Michigan. Just 5 days earlier... Carl Washington was also born in Detroit (December 7, 1948). January 6, 1969, PFC Williams was killed in South Vietnam.
I like the part about AWOL from fake service during WARTI - Saturday, June 01, 2002 at 23:21:13 (EDT)

My two cents are: Despite the budget increases, Attorney General John Ashcroft rejected the bureau's plea last summer for more money for counterterrorism. In a Sept. 10 submission to the Bush administration's budget office, Mr. Ashcroft refused to endorse an F.B.I. request for $58 million for 149 new counterterrorism field agents, 200 additional analysts and 54 additional translators. He also proposed a $65 million cut for a program that would have given state and local counterterrorism grants for equipment and training. After Sept. 11, Mr. Ashcroft proposed $2 billion for counterterrorism measures.
Shouldn't Ashcroft and Mueller be on unemployment? Since the buck stops with them?
- Saturday, June 01, 2002 at 23:07:48 (EDT)

My two cents are: WEST POINT, N.Y. -- The United States will strike pre-emptively against suspected terrorists* if necessary to deter attacks on Americans, President Bush told West Point graduates Saturday.
*unless they're in Pakistan
- Saturday, June 01, 2002 at 23:06:17 (EDT)

My two cents are: WEST POINT, N.Y. -- The United States will strike pre-emptively against suspected terrorists if necessary to deter attacks on Americans, President Bush told West Point graduates Saturday. "The war on terror will not be won on the defensive," he said. Warning of the continuing danger, he said: "We must take the battle to the enemy, disrupt its plans, and confront the worst threats before they emerge." Bush heard doubts from some Europeans last week about a possible expansion in the war on terror, but he sounded firm Saturday in his belief that a widening may be needed. He chose a receptive audience in the 25,000 people at West Point's Michie Stadium, among them 958 members of the U.S. Military Academy's class of 2002 -- future leaders of the Army -- who applauded throughout his speech. "This government and the American people are on watch. We are ready, because we know the terrorists have more money and more men and more plans," Bush said. "The gravest danger to freedom lies at the perilous crossroads of radicalism and technology," Bush said. "When the spread of chemical and biological and nuclear weapons, along with ballistic missile technology, when that occurs, even weak states and small groups could attain a catastrophic power to strike at great nations." Bush did not mention the nations he has identified as an "axis of evil" -- Iraq, Iran and North Korea. Aides said his message, with references to "unbalanced dictators with weapons of mass destruction," was aimed at those states and any others that might sponsor or harbor terrorists. The president had not previously advised Americans "to be ready for pre-emptive action, when necessary, to defend our liberty and to defend our lives." Aides said that was a newly articulated component of his policy. Bush said the nation cannot afford to "put our faith in the word of tyrants who solemnly sign nonproliferation treaties and then systematically break them." The administration says Iran, Iraq and North Korea are out of compliance with such treaties. "All nations that decide for aggression and terror will pay a price. We will not leave the safety of America and the peace of the planet at the mercy of a few mad terrorists and tyrants," he said. The president also framed the war on terrorism as one that could bring a historic shift in international relations, from violent competition among the "great powers" to cooperation in fighting a shared enemy. "More and more, civilized nations find ourselves on the same side, united by common dangers of terrorist violence and chaos," he said. In the wide-ranging, 53-minute speech, Bush took on a host of international responsibilities alongside combating terrorism: fighting global poverty and promoting democracy, human rights and healthier economies overseas. Bush called for "moderation and tolerance" in other nations, though aides said the reference was to no country in particular. Some of America's military and economic allies, such as Saudi Arabia, are strict religious regimes. The crowd roared when graduates threw their white caps into a cloudless sky at the end of the ceremony. Bush congratulated the newest members of the "long gray line" as they collected their diplomas. As he did at Yale University's commencement last year, Bush poked fun at his own spotty academic career. He provoked a cheer when he cited former President Ulysses S. Grant, "who had his fair share of demerits and said the happiest day of his life 'was the day I left West Point.'" "During my college years, I guess you could say I was a Grant man," Bush said. In his weekly radio address, broadcast after the commencement address, Bush said West Point graduates will "provide the ultimate service to our nation as we fight and win the war on terror" -- putting themselves on the line willingly so that other Americans can live in freedom. "Americans serve others because their conscience demands it, because their faith teaches it, because they are grateful to their country and because service brings rewards much deeper than material success," Bush said. "Government does not create this idealism, but we can do a better job of supporting and encouraging an ethic of service in America." Bush also will discuss volunteerism and other ways to serve the country beyond the military when he delivers the commencement address June 14 at Ohio State University
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 01, 2002 at 22:59:44 (EDT)

My two cents are: Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 01, 2002 at 22:12:40 (EDT)

My two cents are: http://www.davissweet.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=2
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 01, 2002 at 20:22:46 (EDT)

My two cents are: A polyp is not like a kitten. You can't just take it back if you don't like it.
Aaaron
- Saturday, June 01, 2002 at 19:36:17 (EDT)

My two cents are: Hey, Aaron! Dude! How are the polyps? Have you given them all names? My favorite polyp is named Pete! Pete the polyp! You can use the name, if you want!
Warren Stirburger
- Saturday, June 01, 2002 at 19:27:32 (EDT)

My two cents are: http://www.fortune.com/indexw.jhtml?channel=artcol.jhtml&doc_id=208131
Nonprofit pays
- Saturday, June 01, 2002 at 18:22:13 (EDT)

My two cents are: Enron Fallout?
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 01, 2002 at 17:48:57 (EDT)

My two cents are: "Back in Twain's era, what further angered ordinary Americans was that the great masses of wealth seemed to be used against them, through corruption and vicious corporate practices. The Senate circa 1900, usually a graveyard for progressive legislation, included some two dozen millionaires, many of whom had virtually bought their seats from captive state legislatures (by which U.S. senators were then elected). Think of this as a gas-lamp era parallel to our own campaign finance crisis. Enron, in its own way, has been a reincarnation of the grasping Gilded Age railroads, which sought to buy a regulatory environment that would enable them to use pricing power to gouge customers. Which brings us to the politics.The Republican Party, at both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue, is in one of its intermittent periods of sycophancy to Wall Street, corporations and big contributors. The Republican House Ways and Means Committee has become a virtual arm of the Washington lobbying community, routinely arranging legislative favors that would make a madam blush. The president and his family have been dynastically involved with the rise of Enron, an inconvenient symbol of the recent excess. In its great eras, by contrast, the GOP stood for ordinary Americans. Abraham Lincoln called the interests of labor more important than those of capital, and Theodore Roosevelt declared himself "independent of the big monied men ... where I think the interests of the public are concerned." The current Republican Party, however, reenacts the arch-complicity with wealth, speculation, deregulation and tax favors for the rich that gets the GOP hung out to dry when public opinion turns, as it did in both the Progressive Era and the years after 1929." The New Face of Another Gilded Age http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A8284-2002May25.html
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 01, 2002 at 17:39:53 (EDT)

My two cents are: WASHINGTON - President Bush wants to use $235 million in federal funds to protect Florida's Everglades and beaches from oil and gas drilling in a move likely to help his brother's campaign for re-election as governor.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 01, 2002 at 17:23:05 (EDT)

My two cents are: "Fifteen thousand feet high in Kashmir and armed with a Kalashnikov-that was not how friends thought Jibreel al-Amreekee would end up. All of 19, the restless kid from Atlanta had grown up in a wealthy family attending Ebenezer Baptist Church, the home pulpit of Martin Luther King Jr. A soft-spoken youth with long dreadlocks, al-Amreekee had a passion for sky diving and reading books on the world's religions. One religion that drew his interest was Islam, and while he was at North Carolina Central University, that interest grew into a calling. By 1997, he had converted and was spending his time at the modest Ibad-ar-Rahman mosque in Durham, where African-Americans mixed easily with immigrants from Egypt and Pakistan. He fell in with a group of fundamentalists who preached of how fellow Muslims were being slaughtered overseas and how jihad-holy war-was every Muslim's obligation. For al-Amreekee, it came as a revelation. He dropped out of school, read the Koran daily, fasted, and prepared for combat overseas. "He was into it, man," recalled a friend, Jaleel Abdullah Musawwir. "You know, Islam says when you get into something you go full ahead, and that's the way he did it." In late 1997, al-Amreekee took off for Kashmir, where India and Pakistan have clashed for decades. Through friends in Durham, he hooked up with Lashkar-e-Taiba (the Righteous Army), a now banned militia blamed for December's terrorist attack on the Indian parliament. Lashkar leaders, closely allied with Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda, have announced plans to "plant Islamic flags in Delhi, Tel Aviv, and Washington." After training at a Lashkar base in Pakistan, al-Amreekee got his chance: His unit began ambushing Indian troops in Kashmir. But the American didn't last long. After just 21/2 months as a jihadist, he was dead-killed while attacking an Indian Army post. "He got what he wanted," said Abdullah Ramadawn, a friend and fellow Georgian who used to drive him home after prayers. "He always said he wanted to be a martyr." Americans are accustomed to thinking of the jihad movement as something overseas, inspired among the faithful in spartan Pakistani schools and gleaming Saudi mosques. But there is also an American road to jihad, one taken by true believers like al-Amreekee and hundreds of others. For 20 years-long before "American Taliban" John Walker Lindh-American jihadists have ventured overseas to attack those they believe threaten Islam. It is a little-known story. They have left behind comfortable homes in Atlanta, New York, and San Francisco, volunteering to fight with foreign armies in Bosnia, Chechnya, and Afghanistan. Their numbers are far greater than is commonly thought: Between 1,000 and 2,000 jihadists left America during the 1990s alone, estimates Bob Blitzer, a former FBI terrorism chief who headed the bureau's first Islamic terrorism squad in 1994. Federal agents monitored some 40 to 50 jihadists leaving each year from just two New York mosques during the mid-'90s, he says. Pakistani intelligence sources say that Blitzer's figures are credible and that as many as 400 recruits from America have received training in Pakistani and Afghan jihad camps since 1989. Scores more ventured overseas during the 1980s, to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan." http://www.usnews.com/usnews/issue/020610/usnews/10jihad.htm
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 01, 2002 at 17:10:17 (EDT)

My two cents are: http://www.yourtaxcutsatwork.org/state.html
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 01, 2002 at 17:04:04 (EDT)

My two cents are: How stupid IS too stupid? "Are there blacks in Brazil?" It is said about the US president that before 9-11 he thought that the Taliban was a Bavarian brass band.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 01, 2002 at 16:49:51 (EDT)

My two cents are: Colorado State Rep. Peter Groff (D) proposed a �Jock Tax� on professional athletes, costing them between $4 and $10 million/year.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 01, 2002 at 16:31:27 (EDT)

My two cents are: Editorial: Beer here / The froth flies as a tax on barrels brews into a fight Saturday, April 20, 2002 Hot weather has returned to many parts of the country, and with it some of the traditional pleasures of the American people -- the ballgames, picnics and barbecues that make ideal venues for adults to enjoy a cold beer or two. But beer-drinking weather doesn't necessarily mean cheers all round. Beer industry groups still complain of a headache from the doubling of the excise tax on beer in 1991 and have a bill in Congress -- HR 1305 -- that would bring it back to the old level, from the current $18 per barrel to $9. Opponents of this rollback -- among them, Mothers Against Drunk Driving -- held a press conference in Washington this week to protest the bill, which they say would promote beer consumption to the detriment of public health and safety. U.S. Rep. Phil English, a Republican from Erie, is the prime sponsor of HR 1305, which has gained more than 200 co-sponsors. A spokeswoman for Mr. English told The Associated Press that "it's an unfair tax that targets lower- to middle-class Americans." Mr. English has a point, although all classes of people like to quaff a cold one. Beer drinkers pay heavily for the pleasure, and not only in the large belly they grow, which is good only for propping up bars or padding out Falstaff or Santa Claus costumes. Industry groups cite a study that says every time a drinker buys a beer, 44 percent of the price comes from taxes. It's admirably gutsy for Mr. English to stand up for the humble drinker against the puritan, neo-prohibitionist forces that usually assail this pastime. That same shrill chorus also makes suspect some of the claims about the bad effects of cutting the excise tax on beer, although, to be fair, some relation between price and consumption does exist -- on that point, both sides agree, even if they put a different spin on it. But Mr. English and his colleagues are ultimately wrong to consider cutting the excise tax. The case for keeping the status quo has nothing to do with prohibitionism and everything to do with accounting. At a time when the federal government is again running deficits, it makes no sense to take a large chunk of change from the Treasury ($1.75 billion annually, MADD estimates). So-called sin taxes on tobacco and alcohol are a legitimate, time-honored way to raise revenue. Most beer drinkers are currently swallowing the tax without much complaint and, when they drink responsibly, the nation's coffers benefit. At least let them continue to do something useful.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 01, 2002 at 16:26:09 (EDT)

My two cents are: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20020601/ap_on_re_us/espresso_tax_2
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 01, 2002 at 16:21:39 (EDT)

My two cents are: http://acorn.org/
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 01, 2002 at 16:20:16 (EDT)

My two cents are: WOW! I feel so enlightened now about the Bush quotation. Tell me, oh wise one, what was the conversation about? give proof. I'm still right. If the Brazilian president didn't mention blacks as an ethnic group when talking about Brazil, Bush's question could have been a polite way of reminding him that he forgot. Condoleeza Rice may have misunderstood his intentions and jumped in to explain. I don't know, because I wasn't there. I'm sure you weren't either, so your "I have no real argument to back up my claim, so I will resort to name calling" doesn't carry much weight with me. I did some research while looking for the story online, and found that blacks in Brazil are quite numerous, but don't hold many seats in the government. If you were to research the topic, I'm sure you would come to the same conclusion.
Aaron
- Saturday, June 01, 2002 at 16:19:36 (EDT)

My two cents are: http://acorn.org/whoisacorn/
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 01, 2002 at 16:19:28 (EDT)

My two cents are: For now we learn that our Vice President, the man who's hiding out to take honest-by-comparison George W.'s place in case of tragedy, is akin to Dracula waiting in the darkest wings for Frankenstein to fail. Isn't it enough that Cheney engaged in chicanery switching his voting residence from Texas to Wyoming -- a state he was NOT domiciled in -- so he could mess with the United States Constitution's prohibition against two people from the same state running for President and Vice President? Isn't is enough that a man who never made more than a high-priced bookkeeper would cash in after public service and earn tens of millions from a company directly impacted -- or not, as the case may be -- by Cheney's official role in the Bush Administration during Operation Desert Storm? Isn't it enough that Cheney has denied that he knew anything about the Halliburton Cayman Island subsidiary that directly, and in my opinion in violation of Federal law punished by imprisonment, sold drilling equipment to Evil Empire Member Numero Uno, Saddam Hussein? Isn't it enough that the Dick and Lynne Cheney tag team have been feeding at the White House trough -- along with some of their perhaps competent but too closely related relatives for nigh on 20 years? Isn't it enough that Lynne Cheney nearly destroyed the National Endowment for the Humanities? Isn't it enough that the United States Securities and Exchange Commission is now investigating the Cheney-era Halliburton for fraud and Cheney already has his legions lying for him, saying the eccentric accounting practice which could have misled investors were just a normal decision that Cheney, as Chairman, would never know of? Isn't it enough that this rascal held secret meetings with Enron and other Bush super-supporters in the energy industry and has been subpoenaed by the United States Senate and its committee investigating Enron -- where Cheney's culpability and past business ties may have helped cost tens of thousands of investors their life savings, thousands their jobs AND their pensions -- and worse? I say yes. It's time for Vice President Richard Cheney to resign. Alex Berenson and Lowell Bergman, two of the New York Times' finest reporters, wrote last week and again today that Halliburton Corporation, under the responsible or irresponsible eyes of its then-Chairman, Dick Cheney, altered its accounting practices so it could report $100 million in challenged costs on large construction projects instead of reporting them as potential losses. What does this mean? To the layman, it means quite simply that Cheney and Halliburton LIED BALD FACED to its investors, overvaluing the Company by $100 million! And Halliburton now tells us this was a run-of-the-mill accounting decision which Cheney would not have been aware of? Get real! How long do you think the American people are going to put up with your shenanigans, Dick? Fess up. Come out of your hole and tell us the truth. This story -- so potentially damaging to Bush and Cheney -- is being buried by FOX News, CNN and other electronic media as I write. Fox, of course, is running stories captioned by "Threat of Nuclear War" involving Pakistan and India -- two countries who (1) most likely don't have the capability of putting together a nuke that could be delivered with much reliability; and (2) seem hell-bent on destroying each over their religious fervor. I don't think I'm the only American whose base reaction is that it's time for all these religious nuts to go -- one way of the other. But I digress. As the Chairman and chief executive of Halliburton Dick Cheney had the ultimate responsibility -- and in truth still maintains that responsibility as Vice President even though he simply took the $50 million Halliburton paid him off with and ran back to Washington as fast as his stumpy little legs could carry him. Weasel boy Doug Foshee, Halliburton's Chief Financial Officer, muttered to reporters yesterday that he couldn't imagine Cheney specifically approving the change -- but the fact is that Cheney, by signing reports issued to the SEC and its stockholders, DID CERTINALY approve those "changes" which were not, I assure you, "routine decisions," as Foshee characterized them. Cheney of course refused to comment on this scandal and referred all questions back to Halliburton -- the uber-weasel. Halliburton though does not speak for the Vice President, so this reporter is stunned that Cheney would have the gall to run back to his cave and pout. Halliburton, of course, is now trying to blame David Lesar -- a former CPA for Arthur Anderson who was Cheney's number two and then succeeded Cheney as CEO in 2000 when the Bush-Cheney team stole the election. Anderson, of course, has been fired by Halliburton -- although the company and Cheney obviously embraced ITS lying ways for years. Accountants we interviewed told us that the Times' accounting which said CPAs said that the accounting change was "stretching accounting rules" was an enormous understatement. In fact, two of three told us that reporting disputed revenues as profits is "a felony" -- plain and simple. Otherwise, corporations could simply bill customers millions, even billions of dollars and simply report them as revenue even tough knowing these funds would never be collected. The proof is in the pudding. Once Cheney left, this practice was halted and now Halliburton does not -- ever -- report disputed charges as revenue and neither does, nor has, any responsible American or European company since the turn of the Century. In fact, the law requires that Halliburton, under Cheney's watch, was legally bound to change accounting practices ONLY when a new method gives investors a CLEARER and MORE ACCURATE picture of how the company is doing. We wonder how Halliburton and Cheney believed that posting probably losses as revenues might do that. Recall that Halliburton reported these phony profits in 1998 just after it had taken over -- under Cheney's ridiculous leadership -- Dresser, another energy services company. In fact, Dresser has so much pending liability for poisoning the nation with asbestos that the acquisition may drive Halliburton into bankruptcy! Cheney, under attack for the Dresser mess, compounded his stupidity -- and lack of knowledge, education and anything else that might prepare him to be the head of a major US company like Halliburton and lied again -- this time to stockholders telling them the company earned $89 million that it did not. In fact, had the Cheney and the company told the truth, the pretax profits for Halliburton that quarter would been cut in half. In half! Halliburton has yet to tell us just how much of that $89 million was ever paid to the company, but don't be surprised if some bogus answer comes out of the Chief Executive's office very soon. This character Foshee told reporters that Halliburton didn't tell anyone about their new and creative accounting practices because it involved SO LITTLE of the company's actual gross revenue. But this of course is not the question. While Halliburton reported 4 billion or so in sales, its profits on those sales -- not the sales themselves -- are what drove the value and the price of the stock, as is true of any company. Halliburton could do as much as $5 billion in total sales, but only earn 3-5% on those sales. In fact, that's about what it did under Cheney. So, Mr. Foshee, I think that nearly $100 million in phony revenue that one knows is being challenged by your own customers is a HUGE chunk of the Halliburton pie -- not a miniscule one as you put it. What's worse is that Dresser executives who joined Halliburton after the merger told regulators and others that most or all of Halliburton's contracts were fixed price contracts and that these supposed "disputed billings" were not even that -- they were, according to one Professor Brown of New York University quoted in the Times, "clearly a way of pumping up revenue and receivables." What is even more interesting is that these challenged revenues rose nearly 100% during Cheney's tenure as Chairman to over $200 million! I suspect that when the smoke clears Halliburton will be found to be as big a scandal as Enron -- perhaps even bigger. Every sign points to it. The Company's receivables as opposed to the money it actually took in skyrocketed under Cheney -- while competitors in the same business maintained these ratios at safe levels. But the real red flag is what has happened since Cheney left and the truth began to come out: Halliburton's stock has plummeted to less than its value in 1995, the SEC is ready to ask for indictments, and Cheney himself... well, he's hiding, waiting for the shoe to drop. The stock today is between $17 and $18 a share -- under Cheney's magic accounting system, the stock was double that. It's simple folks: when you report imaginary revenues as profit your stock will surely rise -- especially when you don't tell your investors that your "new, better-than-ever" accounting system accounts for more than half the so-called profits the company has earned. Naturally though, when the rooster leaves the henhouse, as Cheney left Halliburton, the hens (well, the more honest of them) begin to talk. That seems to be what happened here. Cheney left. Then Halliburton told the truth to its investors -- hoping, one supposes, they wouldn't notice it. Then all hell broke loose after the New York Times broke the story. This reporter wouldn't be surprised if Cheney resigns for "health reasons" within the next month. And, sorrowfully, that reason could be true. While his trough-sucking wife runs around visiting with Oprah and Larry King pushing her new neo-fascist book that shoves right-wing American "philosophy" down our children's throats which she couches in "patriotism", and which is not much more than the worst kind of infantile propaganda, our Vice President takes cover in a bunker. He must be thinking how he has wasted his legacy. And for what? To spend a few million on stuff he can't take him when he faces the end like the rest of us. What a fool. Had he not been so full of avarice, he might have walked away from his past as a mediocre member of the Cabinets of two Presidents as a hero. Now, it is only a matter of time before whatever good he did do is wiped from the blackboard of history, replaced by scandal and worse.
Bye Bye Big-Time "Dick" Cheney
- Saturday, June 01, 2002 at 16:13:23 (EDT)

My two cents are: I'm all for an impeachment. What charges do you have in mind? Protecting national security or "lying while under the oath of office"? Liberals are so funny sometimes. If Bush was in Enron's pocket, they wouldn't have collapsed. If they tell the press all they want to hear, the security of the nation would be jeopardized. All you are doing is speaking in generalizations and calling for an impeachment with no real evidence to support your charges.
Aaron
- Saturday, June 01, 2002 at 16:01:11 (EDT)

My two cents are: Hey, you're right. I THOUGHT it was all my fault. Geesh.
Faux E�
- Saturday, June 01, 2002 at 15:09:07 (EDT)

My two cents are: Careful, Faux E�. You know how he gets when he thinks he's being baited daily.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 01, 2002 at 12:33:00 (EDT)

My two cents are: No wonder Condi was looking so nervous. Geesh.
Faux E�
- Saturday, June 01, 2002 at 11:12:59 (EDT)

My two cents are: If You Wanted Clinton Impeached, Take a Look at Bush Sunday, May 26, 2002 BY LORIN NELSON I have to wonder at the astounding silence from those who frothed and rattled ceaselessly for the impeachment of Bill Clinton. Isn't it inconsistent and blatantly dishonest not to be calling for an investigation of the sitting administration? Let's see, the charges against William Jefferson Clinton were perjury, obstruction of justice, and abuse of power. As far as I know, President Bush hasn't yet had the opportunity to lie under court oath but he surely has lied about his relationship with Kenneth Lay, the staggeringly rich poor boy of Enron infamy. At least three times he publicly denied knowing Ken Lay, the guy who donated the very jet that shuttled Bush around during his campaign. The guy for whom Bush interrupted his campaign so he could watch him toss the first pitch at Enron Field. Ken Lay, the man who ran the single largest corporate contributor to the Republican Party. Bush has acted like he never heard of the guy. Lay has publicly recalled differently. But that was just lying while under the oath of office and only to the press and the American people. Not the court. Besides, Bush is such a friendly guy and has given so many people cute nicknames, maybe he really doesn't remember calling him "Kenny Boy." Dick Cheney has lied about national security matters when his Haliburton firm did trade with Iraq (now part of the so-called Axis-of-Evil, you might recall) after it was against federal law to do so. Whoops. Cheney's Haliburton paid $2 million for defrauding the government by inflating what the taxpayers had to pay for contract maintenance and repairs at Fort Ord in California. Very likely, that $2 million was less than Haliburton profited from the scheme. We trust him to protect our national interests over his and his friends' financial interests? His history shows that to be extremely foolish. But it is questionable that all of this meets the definition of perjury, so we'll leave perjury out of the immediate considerations and move on to the remaining charges. Obstruction of justice. That sure sound like a serious charge. I think most Americans really want to believe that justice prevails in their country. While there are some embarrassments, we generally have a proud history in our efforts at being a just society. The obstruction of justice naturally galls us as Americans, as it should. The written charges against Clinton began with the statement: "The president has misused and abused the office and impaired the administration of justice." In Clinton's case, the charges that he obstructed justice were mostly about his lying, giving misleading statements or encouraging others to do so on his behalf relating to the Paula Jones case. Basically, denying accurate information in the pursuit of justice. Evil right? Well, certainly not presidential behavior. The movement to impeach Clinton made it clear that was unacceptable. This administration seems to think that refusal to respect requests for public information is OK. Heck, Cheney said it was a matter of principle. He refuses to elaborate on that novel concept while he denies us accurate information in the pursuit of justice. He's not lying because he won't say anything. Still, I think that counts as obstruction. In this case it is not just the president, but also the vice president and quite possibly several White House officials as well who should be investigated for high crimes and misdemeanors against the American public. With his flat refusal to grant their requests for information regarding the Energy Task Force and Enron's influence over energy policy, Cheney has demonstrated his contempt for the General Accounting Office and the public's right to know what its government is doing. The White House refused to account for Karl Rove's meetings with the heads of companies in which he held stock. Bush-Cheney have thrown a blanket of secrecy over all sorts of information for no apparent reason other than to establish precedent by which they can withhold anything. I can't see how this serves the public. All of this seems suspiciously evasive and clearly at odds with the ideals of free and open government. There are grounds for suspecting that this administration's top officials are obstructing lawful investigation into possible criminal wrongdoing. So why is it so quiet? I recall many people clamoring that refusal to release information implied guilt when it was the Clinton administration that was withholding information. In contrast to the Bush-Cheney regime, the Clinton White House was extremely forthcoming in supplying information upon request. As for abusing the office, Clinton had nothing on these giants of industry and well-greased cogs of their party's political machine. Clinton was accused of selling influence and lying to the American people, impairing the administration of justice. The whole White House reeks of return-on-investment politics. At least 51 White House officials have direct ties to Enron. Thomas White, secretary of the Army, is a former chair of Enron Energy. Lawrence Lindsey, Bush's chief economic adviser, is a former advisor for Enron. Robert Zoellick, Bush's federal trade representative, is a former adviser to Enron. Feeling secure about your country's economy under these hands? What do you want to bet that when you are trying to live within the means of your Social Security checks these guys will be golfing the days away in plush retirement? Remember, please, that Enron was at the top of the list of private companies Bush recommended the Social Security program invest in when he was pushing privatization on the campaign trail. The list of Enron cronies in the Bush-Cheney administration goes on and on. The White House announced its opposition to price caps on electricity during the California power crisis the day after Cheney's meeting, in the White House, with Enron officials. And we have Karl Rove who helped Intel gain government approval of a merger that enriched him personally since Rove failed to reveal and sell his stake in Intel until after the merger had taken place and the stock's value had risen considerably. To me at least, this kind of whoring is far more disturbing than the juvenile antics of Bill and Monica. Still, it seems quiet. Maybe you are still in shock and temporarily crippled by outrage. Perhaps you want to get the facts straight before you let the rage and indignation at this situation take hold. After all, these are very serious issues we're talking about, directly impacting thousands more people than Paula, Monica or a relatively petty real estate investment scheme ever did. The offices of the president and vice president of the United States of America are being abused and dishonored by George W. Bush and Dick Cheney. It is quite clear there is ample reason to believe that this administration may have committed crimes and misdemeanors great enough to warrant impeachment. I still don't hear the calls for justice from those of you who couldn't say Clinton's name without bringing up impeachment. Maybe you're tired from the long fight. But I know you will raise your voices again in defense of the honor and integrity of the office of the presidency of the United States of America. Soon the silence will stop and the roar of true patriotism will call out in righteousness once again. I know this because you swore that it wasn't just personal, it was the principle. You told everyone that you were fighting to bring honor back, that integrity mattered. Many believed this. Now you have the opportunity and duty to prove it. After all, you fought hard for honor and integrity. You are not a hypocrite. You said so yourself."
Salt Lake City Editorial Calls for Bush Impeachment
- Saturday, June 01, 2002 at 11:11:50 (EDT)

My two cents are: Impeach Clinton? Impeach Clinton? IMPEACH BUSH NOW! Let's play a game today, shall we boys and girls? This is an imagination game called, "What If?" You'll like it. It's fun, and not hard if you can tell the truth. What if Bill Clinton had been arrested for drunk driving many years before he ran for president, but lied about it to the press? His excuse was, "I didn't want Chelsea to find out." What if, instead of receiving a draft card (which is what really happened) Bill Clinton had a powerful relative, who was a member of Congress, call the commander of the Arkansas National Guard to have Bill's name put at the top of a waiting list of more than 300 young men? And what if, while serving in the Arkansas National Guard, he went AWOL for more than a year to help another Democrat campaign for Congress in another state? What if, in 1992, Bill Clinton received almost 600,000 fewer popular votes nationwide than George H. W. Bush? And what if his brother, Roger, was the governor of Louisiana, the state that decided the whole election? And what if the Supreme Court ordered that a recount of all the votes in Louisiana be stopped, even though it looked like Bush would win if the recount occurred? Isn't this a fun game? What if, a few months into Clinton's first term, Tyson Foods suddenly went bankrupt? It was discovered that Don Tyson, the company's CEO, was Clinton's single biggest campaign contributor, and had been for many years when Clinton was Arkansas' governor. Further investigations revealed that Tyson had illegally manipulated the price of chicken on the open market, hurting consumers and other businesses, not to mention the fact that Tyson himself had considerable input in more than 50 appointees in the departments of Agriculture, Commerce and Labor. What if terrorists from Egypt hijacked commercial airliners and crashed them into the Sears Tower in Chicago, killing almost 3,000 people? What if we linked the terrorist mastermind to radical factions in Iran? With huge public support, we began military retaliation in Iran (even though the terrorists were almost all Egyptian, including the mastermind hiding in Iran). What if some reporters found out that Bill Clinton and Al Gore had been negotiating with Iran's Islamic fundamentalist leaders to build a natural gas pipeline through Iran to the Persian Gulf more than a year before the attacks? What if, almost nine months after the destruction of the Sears Tower, the Clinton administration admitted that they had prior information that a terrorist attack was imminent, but they chose to do nothing? They didn't investigate any further, they didn't try to increase airport security, and they repeatedly ignored desperate pleas from FBI field agents to investigate these suspicious flight students? And what if their only response to all these questions was to accuse the questioner of being "unpatriotic"? You'd want those lying SOB's impeached, wouldn't you? Bill Clinton and Al Gore did none of these things. George W. Bush and Dick Cheney did. //// All original work Copyright 2002 by Mark J. Sanders
Impeach Bush Now (Big-Time Dick, too)
- Saturday, June 01, 2002 at 11:08:23 (EDT)

My two cents are: I'd say that Aaron is probably more like Pete was before the breakdown. Give him time; he's young, and will no doubt also have a big one cumming one of these days.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 01, 2002 at 09:00:00 (EDT)

My two cents are: Pwtw is Gary??? How very clever!
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 01, 2002 at 00:55:13 (EDT)

My two cents are: I agree. Aaron sucks shit. I wouldn't be surprised to find that he is Pete, pretending to be coherent. There can't be that many confused fools who look in on this site. Aaron is Pete, ten will get you one.
House of Meat
- Saturday, June 01, 2002 at 00:50:32 (EDT)

My two cents are: No, Aaron, the Bush quotation (quote is a verb, remember, although the usage can of course evolve, all the faster in an illiterate culture) doesn't make you wonder what the conversation was about. It makes you think, on the other hand, of Richard Nixon looking at the Great Wall of China, and saying in his good ol' boy way, "That's a very big wall," and of Dan Quayle buying the wooden puppet-couple where you pulled the string and they humped, and showing it proudly to all the reporters. Bush's question is not legit, and has nothing to do with political disenfranchisment, although you proudly profess to know who is and who isn't disenfranchised in Brazil, even though you know nothing. Anyone who knows,say, that there were African slaves in South Carolina, whether they grew rice or not, should know that there were a lot more negro slaves in Brazil, and that there were slaves in Brazil late into the 19th century. Anyone who reached the ripe mid-fifties and kept more or less awake along the way and once caught a World Cup soccer match out of the corner of his eye or heard of Pele would know that Brazil is packed to the gills with splibs. Anywone who heard of Carnaval and saw a picture of the nekkid negas do Rio would have noted a certain smattering of Negroid blood south of the border. No, Bush's question is stupid, incurious, sluggish, or shit-for-brained no matter which way you cut it. I'd be surprised to find that the dolt knows that shoes come in sizes. Remember, this is the guy whose old man didn't know what a checkout counter was, although you can figure the Snip has hustled a few twelve-packs of Oly through the line at Liquor Barn, and is that far ahead of Old Poop Bush. You really suck, Aaron. No talent. You get the hook.
Captain Mack
- Saturday, June 01, 2002 at 00:46:14 (EDT)

My two cents are: By the way, spelling it nurd is like spelling turd with an i. It's nerd. Camaro, not Camero. Gotta run for now. If you have any other questions, hold them until tomorrow.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 01, 2002 at 00:35:49 (EDT)

My two cents are: Fuck the context, Aaron. Snippy is stupid, but he's our president* and that's all that's important. As for Ecstasy, yeah, I only took it about 200 to 300 times between 1984 and 1986. I think it was even legal during part of that time. A very nice drug. Maybe like a mega-dose of Efexxor or Prozac. In fact, it probably could replace all them anti-depressants. A couple hits of E or three years on Zoloft is probably the same thing. Of course, with E you also get the benefit of an actual buzz. I understand too much can possibly lead to neurological problems. I wouldn't do much more than 300 hits in a lifetime just to be safe. Also, drink plenty of water. Kids are croaking from dancing on the stuff and dehydrating.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, June 01, 2002 at 00:33:16 (EDT)

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