My two cents are:
Pay no attention to the pork-bone-sucking, Bible-jibbering, fornicating-with-their-sisters ditto monkeys who think you're a traitor and a godless commie prevert (sic) for having the last elected president of the United States on your wonderful show. Bill Clinton's appearance on Late Night was one of the crowning moments of your brilliant career. You're a hero to millions of disaffected and disenfranchised Americans who are sick and tired of watching monkey boy in a man suit clutching the podium of the United Nations as he stumbles through a Prozac induced haze trying to articulate the wishes of his wranglers and puppetmasters. Seeing Bill Clinton was a reminder to America of how articulate, intelligent and in command that a president is supposed to be. There is no substitute for personal greatness, as I am sure you know. The frothers and tooth-gnashers of our uncivilized society hate to see Clinton on TV because every time he opens his mouth, he proves what a mind-boggling putz Bush really is.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 15, 2002 at 23:21:21 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Horrible George and his cretin tribe just want to get re-elected so they can continue their neo-Confederate Neanderthal dismantling of government. W's Wag the Dawg War might just drive everyone deeper into depression. Yup. You bet.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 15, 2002 at 23:19:28 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Bush can hope war will benefit the economy. But it could also hurt. News early this week that Saudi Arabia would deny U.S. companies access to its prized natural gas fields is only the first sign of what could well turn into an economic energy boycott against the U.S., driving up prices and torpedoing our markets.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 15, 2002 at 23:06:06 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Nebraska? Who cares about Nebraska? We're talking about America's Team, the Buffs! They lost. They suck. If they keep this up, the country will turn to Slippery Rock U. What kind of lame ass retard would blame it on the offensive coordinator when the defense is made of swiss cheese? Poor pathetic asshole.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 15, 2002 at 22:16:35 (EDT)
My two cents are:
So why doesn't the U.S. mill the corn before they send it to Africa?
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 15, 2002 at 22:09:49 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Pete makes his usual bohunk "Point."
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 15, 2002 at 21:59:30 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Too high a price to pay for your oxygen?
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 15, 2002 at 21:52:03 (EDT)
My two cents are:
At the World Summit on Sustainable Development in Johannesburg, South Africa, some 60,000 delegates from around the globe met together to solve the problems of poor nations.
While they were pondering what to do about world hunger, they made sure that they themselves would not go hungry. The chef of the five-star Michelangelo Hotel, where the VIPs stayed, told Neil Syson of the British tabloid The Sun how he had stocked 1,000 pounds of lobster, 5,000 oysters, more than two tons of steak, 450 pounds of salmon, and half a ton of bacon and sausages. Not to mention thousands of bottles of vintage wine and champagne flown in from the best vineyards, and buckets of pate de foie gras and Beluga caviar. "Money is no object," said the chef, as indeed it was not, since taxpayers from participating nations would pick up the tab.
The virtuecrats at the World Summit displayed not just their elitist taste for luxury, status, and the finer things in life. They also displayed what, ironically, often accompanies Western consumer excess, the fashionable politics of environmentalism, multiculturalism, and leftist economics. In another irony, these Western ideologies help keep the world poor.
Consider some of the bright ideas to come out of the World Summit. French President Jacque Chirac proposed the establishment of a global tax. Never mind that high taxes in his own country are stifling the economy, let's add to local, state, and national taxes, a world tax.
A South American diplomat offered a more supply-side solution. Environmentalism being a major theme of the Summit-the emphasis being not just on "development" but "sustainable development," which is code for restricting economic progress-he picked up on the environmentalists' apotheosis of the rain forest. We supply the world's oxygen, he said. Therefore, the world should compensate us for it.
To see oxygen as a commodity, like oil or wheat, is at least ingenious. But who would receive the money from such a scheme? Not individuals, of course, but governments, just as governments would receive the money from taxes. In the United States, if a farmer strikes oil in his back 40, he receives a lease from an oil company and royalties on every barrel pumped. In poor countries, such as Nigeria, the government takes the oil money, which is pretty much the case in the aristocracies of the Middle East. This means in practice that the ruling dictator or monarch gets it all. (The Sultan of Brunei brought his own chef and tasters to the World Summit.)
Thus, while Africa is a treasure house of natural resources-oil, gold, diamonds-most of the people live in crushing poverty and imminent starvation. Statist solutions, which just give more money and power to dictators, will do nothing for the hungry children of the shantytowns.
Even as the Summiteers discussed how rich nations should share their resources with the poor, the brutal dictator of Zimbabwe, Robert Mugabe, was arresting white farmers and seizing their land. Mr. Mugabe's "land reform" program takes away the property of white people to give it to blacks-in effect, replacing the old racism of apartheid with another kind of racist system (even though most of the land is going to a handful of his cronies). But since no crops can be harvested from these farms, according to UN figures, 6 million Zimbabweans are near starvation.
Then there is Zambia, where 2.5 million Zambians face starvation, many currently surviving only by eating leaves and twigs. The United States readies hundreds of thousands of tons of grain to avert the crisis. But the president of Zambia, Levy Mwanawasa, will not let it into the country because the corn has been genetically modified. Echoing the party line of Western environmentalists, he thinks it might be dangerous. Even though this is the same corn Americans eat every day, it is not environmentally correct.
"We would rather starve than get something toxic," said Mr. Mwanawasa, who seized power in a rigged election last year. His people disagree. The Los Angeles Times described the scene at a food distribution center, where some 200 people were sent home after the government embargo was announced. "Please give us the food," said an elderly blind man. "We don't care if it is poisonous because we are dying anyway."
Socialism, statism, and environmental extremism are Western ideologies. What they give poor nations is dictatorship, poverty, and starvation. Those nations are indeed suffering from the legacy of colonialism. But the new liberal colonialism, for all of its humane-sounding rhetoric, may be even more destructive.
What the developing nations of the world need is political and economic freedom. Helping them requires not just feel-good posturing, but building up the moral, legal, and spiritual infrastructure for liberty.
- Sunday, September 15, 2002 at 21:16:22 (EDT)
My two cents are:
J.C. As in Just Crack? Talk about being in a drug-induced haze. You define stupidity. Treason has a way of doing this to your kind. Doink.
Pete�
- Sunday, September 15, 2002 at 20:32:12 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Dear Dave,
Pay no attention to the pork-bone-sucking, Bible-jibbering, fornicating-with-their-sisters ditto monkeys who think you're a traitor and a godless commie prevert (sic) for having the last elected president of the United States on your wonderful show.
Bill Clinton's appearance on Late Night was one of the crowning moments of your brilliant career. You're a hero to millions of disaffected and disenfranchised Americans who are sick and tired of watching monkey boy in a man suit clutching the podium of the United Nations as he stumbles through a Prozac induced haze trying to articulate the wishes of his wranglers and puppetmasters.
Seeing Bill Clinton was a reminder to America of how articulate, intelligent and in command that a president is supposed to be. There is no substitute for personal greatness, as I am sure you know.
The frothers and tooth-gnashers of our uncivilized society hate to see Clinton on TV because every time he opens his mouth, he proves what a mind-boggling putz Bush really is. Don't let them get to you. The real America loves you, and loves you for giving us a moment to glimpse what we used to have - A Real President.--
J.C.
the last elected president of the USA
- Sunday, September 15, 2002 at 18:13:04 (EDT)
My two cents are:
CU's problem lies with one person and one person only: our miserable offensive coordinater Watson. Doink.
Pete�
- Sunday, September 15, 2002 at 17:28:44 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Where's the lion of the veldt? The one with more than a little cat in him? The warrior? He in whose veins runs the cold blood of the hyena?
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 15, 2002 at 16:08:00 (EDT)
My two cents are:
USC? Bunch of Caliban faggots.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 15, 2002 at 16:02:31 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Anyone who says a fellow Dunster House man is a worthless asshole has got me to fight. Stand up and take it with a "handle", punk.
L. Freonelli , Dunster House, '79
- Sunday, September 15, 2002 at 16:01:32 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Is that the actual worthless asshole asking the question? Or is it a stealth faux-Pete? I thought he was going to quit forever if the brownies and/or goblins didn't stop erasing his "threads."
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 15, 2002 at 15:59:45 (EDT)
My two cents are:
So what happened to Nebraska? (00)
Pete�
- Sunday, September 15, 2002 at 14:40:17 (EDT)
My two cents are:
How dare this Thompson guy say Snippy's gang make Nixon look like a statesman.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 15, 2002 at 14:21:26 (EDT)
My two cents are:
You're right. Snippy's a big fart, and a big bastard. Wait a second. I was right the first time. He's a shitty little bastard. Off with his head.
Mr. Thompson
- Sunday, September 15, 2002 at 13:56:57 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The Buffies got slaughtered by USC. Is this possible? Arfe the Buffies still the best shitty team in the country?
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 15, 2002 at 13:22:20 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Oil? That's just silly. This war is about the supression of Evil, and about the safety of the Hawaiian Islands, which would be reduced to rubble if Saddam gets his hands on a hydrogen bomb. Oil? No way, Jackson. Why, administration spokesmen have stated unequivocably that oil is not even on the list of topics. They are trying to keep the world safe for productive guys with expensive rain gutters.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 15, 2002 at 13:21:35 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Worth it. A solution to the problem of indolent welfare cheats. As long as Pete survives, and a few stout men like him, middle-aged fat men not too concerned with their own dignity to screech for war, then there is light at the end of the tunnel. We get the oil, Saddam gets the virgins of paradise, and Joe Schmoe's son or daughter in uniform gets to learn how to hide, slither, and shit pants as a real-life experience. Everybody wins.
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- Sunday, September 15, 2002 at 13:09:35 (EDT)
My two cents are:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A18841-2002Sep14.html
more blood for oil
- Sunday, September 15, 2002 at 12:32:08 (EDT)
My two cents are:
They have to tremble; it's in the script.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 15, 2002 at 12:05:50 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Wait a minute! Condaleeza Rice says Saddan is "clearly a gathering threat against the United States." Some helpful citizen posted her comments below, to make sure we all got the alert. Pete has every reason to be scared so bad he's got the squirts. I wonder what part of "wag the dog" he doesn't understand, a month before the election.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 15, 2002 at 11:14:49 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Nope. Pete's just a garden-variety coward.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 15, 2002 at 11:06:23 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The real question is why does Pete tremble on the commode? Can you catch anal cysts over the radio?
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 15, 2002 at 10:50:06 (EDT)
My two cents are:
No. I recommended stringing up Hunter S. Thompson. Crazy drug-addled old bastard keeps calling our president a "little fart" and a "little bastard." Treason. The enemy of America.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 15, 2002 at 10:43:42 (EDT)
My two cents are:
You want to string up Horrible George? Gosh. That's way too harsh. Humiliating him, maybe, well, except he's already humiliating himself, except the stupids haven't noticed because they're well . . . . you know the story. What DO you do with a necktied brushclearer who's looted the US Treasury? I dunno. It's like, what do you do with a moonlit pruney haole peeping, trembling, on the commode?
Gerunds, gerunds everywhere and not a drop-dead plinth
- Sunday, September 15, 2002 at 10:20:56 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I don't have a tree that looks like a bear, but I got the bear. Bear turds everywhere. They're on a roll, busting up the rotten logs and chawing on the dogwood berries, rooting in the ground like hairy pigs, fatting up for the winter.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 14, 2002 at 23:55:15 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Looter? What did Bush ever loot? I mean, besides the United States Treasury? Besides maybe Harken? I think looter is a little strong. Do looters wear nectkies? Do looters like to greet the cows on their ranches? I think not.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 14, 2002 at 23:46:09 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Hunter S. Thompson = Traitor. Anyone who says we don't need terrorism to beat "this little fart," we can vote him out. Keeping calling the little guy a bastard and a looter. Should be strung up. Should be doinked good.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 14, 2002 at 23:21:37 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Nah, it's the real thing, the real doink. Or not. Does it matter?
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 14, 2002 at 23:05:20 (EDT)
My two cents are:
False doink at 22:03:20?
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 14, 2002 at 23:02:16 (EDT)
My two cents are:
An ever vigilant eye with a rusty nail in it.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 14, 2002 at 22:29:08 (EDT)
My two cents are:
No, he's keeping an ever vigilant eye on you traitors. Doink.
Pete�
- Saturday, September 14, 2002 at 22:03:20 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Isn't Pete's trembling on the commode more a reaction to the morning's prunes than to Saddam Hussein's plan to gas the poor haole?
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 14, 2002 at 19:52:09 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Why should anyone come between the Evil One and his night sweats?
why indeed
- Saturday, September 14, 2002 at 18:58:47 (EDT)
My two cents are:
On mediawhoresonline.com, listen to Hunter S. Thompson on the "Goofy Child President" and his military takeover of the US government in an interview with an ABC journalist.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 14, 2002 at 18:55:45 (EDT)
My two cents are:
It looks to me like the Oil Republicans installed by Rhenquist and his boys want to grab some Middle East oil, and are manufacturing the Saddam threat. This is what Hitler did when he wanted Rumanian oil, and what the Japanese did when they wanted Indonesian oil. Sneak attack and claim that the other guy was about to hit first. It is a terrible, shameful thing for America to be doing, especially since a lot of it is based on true cowardice before the manufactured threat. People who claim to be patriots and who claim to be men are squawking in fear because some lucky rag-heads managed to kill as many Americans as die in traffic accidents on a good week-end. Our chicken-hearted Pete says we have to kill a fifth of the world's population to make his poor hide secure. In reality, saving Pete from his night sweats and his trembling on the commode is not worth one Arab in collateral damage. At least Atilla the Hun and Eric Redbeard and Cortez and Hitler didn't whine and grovel while they were grabbing what they thought the world owed them.
.
- Saturday, September 14, 2002 at 17:49:49 (EDT)
My two cents are:
What did you expect from Cheney? The guy has always been a card-carrying troglo. Of course he's a dittohead. And the Republicans have always electioneered foreign policy-- going so far, in Reagan's case, as to make treasonous secret deals with the enemy. Bob Dole was the first to popularize the use of Democrat as an adjective, talking of "Democrat Wars" in his rebuttal to Carter's state of the union speech. Nixon's whole career was largely based pm claiming that various Democrats, starting with arch-cold warrior Dean Acheson, were pro-Communist. Moving war hysteria up to try for an off-year election boost, however, is just desparation, since it does Republicans no good. The prospect of war means fewer votes for lunatics, not more, and the main impact, if any, is to distract from Snippy and Dick's criminal activities prior to their selection by the supreme court majority. But Snippy and Dick aren't running. Tom DeLay and various other shysters, crooks, and lunatics are the faces of Republicanism in this election. Cheney's doing a nasty-fest with Rush Limbaugh doesn't do the Republicans any good, because he's preaching to the choir. They might as well unlease Ashcroft and let him talk about dirty bombs again, for all the good it will do.
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- Saturday, September 14, 2002 at 17:34:55 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Rush was a draft dodger himself. Anal cysts, I believe.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 14, 2002 at 16:18:57 (EDT)
My two cents are:
How come Rush Limbaugh likes all draft dogers Chaney Trent Lott Dick Rumsfield Newt All a bunch of cowards. Couldent find the bunch of basterds if we had needed them.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 14, 2002 at 15:36:58 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Any question now that this is about elections? Some say its about oil, well we can't discount that truth. But this administration will make it political to influence the elections , which are six weeks away.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 14, 2002 at 14:19:20 (EDT)
My two cents are:
On the same day that George W. Bush tried viciously to inject partisan politics into the debate on Iraq and American foreign policy, Dick Cheney did the same during his appearance on Rush Limbaugh's radio show.
Rush set the tone and laid out the smears, asking snide questions of Cheney about "the opposition party," "the opposition party in Washington," and "the Democrat party."
According to Limbaugh, the Democrats, by raising what are to the vast majority of the American people perfectly legitimate questions about the current Administration's war-now policy, have been playing politics and doing the nation a grave disservice. A disservice that sounds a lot like disloyalty, to hear Rush tell it.
Rush never mentioned those Republicans -- including Dick Lugar and Dick Armey, no less -- who have questioned the Administration's war-now policies. No, as far as Rush is concerned, the evildoers are part of only one sinister force -- the force he calls, in that old and now revived ugly McCarthyite slur, "the Democrat party."
And Cheney went right along with it, charging that the Democrats were indeed playing politics -- "Some people say, 'Well, it's an election year'" -- and chortling in agreement with Limbaugh's shrill partisan smears: "Well, I think that's all true, Rush. I don't disagree with any of that." People who support the Administration to the max are truly "serious," Chickenhawk Cheney said. The "opposition" -- the Democrat party -- is not.
The blatant, disgusting attempt by Cheney, as well as by Bush, to politicize and polarize the current crisis over Iraq is unprecedented in our history of bi-partisan foreign policy.
In case Mr. Cheney has not heard, there is a bi-partisan consensus that Saddam Hussein represents a threat to world peace, and that he must be called to account and, if necessary, removed from power. The differences are over means, not about basic principles.
But the despicable Cheney, instead of respecting and building on that consensus, has chosen to trash it, by accusing the "Democrat party" of bad faith, and by denouncing, in his snarling low-voice way, any criticism of the Administration's particular policies as unserious and partisan.
It is bad enough that Cheney -- who as CEO of Halliburton bypassed the boycott on Iraq and did business with Saddam Hussein -- now tries to pass himself off as pure as the driven snow, a point Molly Ivins has made eloquently.
But it is even worse that he has chosen to appear on the air with one of the most divisive partisan figures in American public life in order to condemn the Democratic Party.
It may all play well to the ditto-heads.
(And Cheney appears to be among them: "Love your show," he told Limbaugh just before signing off. "You do great work.")
But for the nation to see the person occupying the office of the Vice President of the United States -- on the same day as George W. Bush -- make mendacious statements in order to turn a world crisis into partisan political hay is a direct slap at the decency of American political life.
It is a move truly worthy of Joe McCarthy, the old lambaster of the "Democrat party."
Is that how Cheney, like Bush, hopes to lead a united nation into a huge escalation of war? By trashing Democrats? What arrogant, narrow, partisan little world is he living in?
Has any national Democratic leader actually claimed that the Administration's war policy is politically-driven? No, although almost every aspect of it has been.
Have some Republican leaders -- including Lugar and Armey -- been just as critical of the substance of the Administration's particular policy as Tom Daschle and Dick Gephart have? Yes.
So how DARE Dick Cheney and George W. Bush make this a partisan issue, and slam the Democrats as somehow the partisan ones.
It might have seemed like a neat trick as Cheney was in his office -- or was he in his cave? -- getting ready to go into the Rush room.
But it is the most alarming display of raw partisan smearing to come out of any White House since the days of Richard Nixon and Spiro Agnew.
Don't they realize what they're doing? Well, in the short term, sure -- they are trying to make the Democrats look disloyal.
But looking at the bigger picture -- do they have any conception how much damage they have done today, and apparently plan on doing over the weeks to come, to the very essence of American political comity and fairness and decency?
Apparently not.
Down in Mount Vernon, George Washington is turning in his grave, wondering if anyone in the Bush White House has ever read his Farewell Address on the imperative of keeping partisan divisions out of foreign affairs.
Finally, who will point ANY of this out, oh ye ladies and gentlemen of the press.
ANY of you?
Or will the partisan smears of the Vice President of the United States, now a self-declared dittohead in heart if not officially in name, simply pass unnoticed?
Are you really, secretly fond of the dittohead yourselves?
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 14, 2002 at 14:04:53 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I say we grab France after Iraq and cut it up and sell it. The frogs don't like us anyway, and we could command a fortune for the Eiffel Tower and make a hefy profit on the restaurants. Say, this is pretty smart policy after all!
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 14, 2002 at 14:01:57 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"Bush's speech Thursday at the United Nations marked the start of intense behind-the-scenes negotiations to see what inducements will help convert countries that so far have been balking, at least publicly, at joining the anti-Hussein campaign.
U.S. officials expect the Turks to ask for weapons and debt relief, the Russians and French for access to Iraqi oilfield business, the Qataris for cash to build an air base, and the Jordanians for guarantees of oil and trade. Officials expect many other countries to join the horse trading, and predict that they won't be shy.
"Countries in the Middle East take the bazaari approach," said Danielle Pletka, a former Senate aide who now works at the American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research. "Once they know we want to buy ... the sky's the limit."
Said a senior congressional aide, "This is a great time to step forward and get something you want from the United States."
http://www.latimes.com/la-fg-bazaar13sep13.story
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 14, 2002 at 13:50:56 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The United States is not trying to take over the world, it just wants to protect itself.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 14, 2002 at 13:42:39 (EDT)
My two cents are:
This rhetoric was used in the arms race against the Soviet Union. The truth...Soviet Union didn't have the military weaponry we thought they had, and the Soviet Union was not trying to take over the world. They just wanted to protect their own country.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 14, 2002 at 13:40:35 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Vice President Dick Cheney said intelligence gathered in the last 12 to 14 months suggests the "the United States may well become the target" of an attack.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 14, 2002 at 12:58:21 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"Imagine, a September 11 with weapons of mass destruction,It�s not 3,000 [casualties]; it�s tens of thousands of innocent men, women, and children." Donald Rumsfield
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 14, 2002 at 12:54:08 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"How long are we going to wait to deal with what is clearly a gathering threat against the United States, against our allies and against [Saddam�s] own region?" asked National Security Adviser Condolezza Rice in a September 8th television interview. "The problem here is that there will always be some uncertainty about how quickly he can acquire nuclear weapons. But we don�t want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud."
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 14, 2002 at 12:52:14 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I'm worried about the frogs horning in on Iraq. They got all kinds of tentacles into the Iraqi oil, more so since we backed off and bought only $10,000,000,000/year's worth from Saddam because of the sanctions. If we let the frog grab a piece of this action, plus honor the British claims, what's left over for us? Plus the Russians are going to make out like bandits, and we'll have to give something to the Chink to get him to abstain in the security council. Are we fighting for an empty pi�ata here? What is the frog going to add to these ops besides their greedy paw?
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 14, 2002 at 11:17:16 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The Reverend Franklin Graham couldn't carry his dad's douche bag.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 14, 2002 at 11:12:37 (EDT)
My two cents are:
page ;loads too slow, who fked it up fixittttt
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 14, 2002 at 08:59:29 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The Reverend Franklin Graham, son of the Reverend Billy Graham and an evangelist preacher in his own right, said: "The God of Islam is not the same God. He's not the son of God of the Christian or Judeo-Christian faith. It's a different God, and I believe it is a very evil and wicked religion."
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 14, 2002 at 04:58:14 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The UN Gambit. It is a reasonable supposition that shooting will begin in some form sooner or later. And if Bush has his way on Capitol Hill, sooner than the November elections.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 14, 2002 at 04:31:39 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"The Washington Post set a brand-new standard for media prostitution by officially getting down on its knees to perform fellatio on Commander-in-Thief George W. Bush. Watch this official WashPost video (edited by Nicole Hider) and see if you can find ANY journalistic merit it in. To us, it is nothing but Leni Riefenstahl-style propaganda modeled after her Hitler-worshiping "Triumph of the Will," a declaration of war against journalism as a profession and a corporate "f***-you" to the 51 million Americans who believe Bush is STILL an illegitimate Resident.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 14, 2002 at 04:10:29 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Hi people. yd, know you don't get to fgate much lately, more important things taking your time. Other day posted something about a tree in my area that supposedly resembled the Virgin Mary holding her babe. A guy took a chain saw to it. Some people were a bit upset. So today posted the following: Have an old fallen log lying by the side of a dirt access road to my mounain place. From a distance it resembles a little black bear. I could call it the virgin bear log and maybe people will rush up there and make a shrine out of it. Call it the virgin bear log and burn candles and incense. Worshippers are welcome to come and worship at the bear log.//Seriously, I love what I call my bear log. I think I've connected to an inanimate object. lol
gnat
- Saturday, September 14, 2002 at 03:20:59 (EDT)
My two cents are:
With Reagan, at least you had a pretty good idea who was pulling the puppet strings on a given day. This Bush thing is harder to figure out. What exactly is Poppy's role? To what degree is Cheney running the show and how does he do it from his hiding spot? With Karen Hughes off trying to keep a lid on Texas, is Rove really listened to? Does Jeb let George fondle Kathleen Harris or do they just sneak in "hostesses" with thick makeup? Who hung that mouse on George in the infamous "pretzel" incident? Was it Cheney, or did the kid just fall down the stairs? Do Republicans and other bottom-feeders wonder about this things too, but hide it? How is the administration making all these moronic decisions. Do we have a right to know, or are we better off just hoping the military refuses to aid in any grab for dictatorial powers?
curious Tampa grandmother
- Saturday, September 14, 2002 at 02:42:52 (EDT)
My two cents are:
It's too bad the Iraqis aren't doctrinaire and suicide bombing Israel. He could buy Saddam off by forcing Israel to release prisoners the way his hero Reagan did.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 14, 2002 at 01:01:17 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Lonely Are the Bandy-legged?
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 14, 2002 at 00:38:43 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The very hungry president?
hahahahahahahahahahaha
- Saturday, September 14, 2002 at 00:27:01 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The way I have it figured, Bush has by now killed just as many camels as Clinton ever did. However, he hasn't caught near as many terrorists, and the ones he has caught tend not to be terrorists but dippy kids in head-towels or Chicago street punks with brains addled by angel dust. That's been the Republican story ever since Reagan pulled the Marines out of Lebanon at the behest of Hezbollah. They always think they can deal with the bad guys as if they were dealing with simple crooks like the CEO of, say, Halliburton or Enron. Give them what they ask for and a pat on the butt and hope they don't come back before all the slops have been sucked out of the trough. Bush may whine his way into Baghdad, but once he's there he's going to do the same old thing and bribe the wrong guys, and he'll wind up with the typical Republic legacy, a world worse for everybody and nothing to show for it but what Republican politicians always settle for-- the chance to sell what's left of his influence to the highest-bidding Arab or kinglet of Borneo. What did you think, he's going to write a book?
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
- Saturday, September 14, 2002 at 00:21:31 (EDT)
My two cents are:
That wasn't me, Mr. Ashcroft.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 22:09:33 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Clinton would be strafing Baghdad by now, if it was so fucking important. Bush is a wimp.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 22:08:49 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Hunter Thompson is some kind of gun-toting, drugged out, conservative socialist libertarian. And a poet. Like Pete.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 22:06:33 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I don't know who he is but I hope Ann Coulter rips him a new asshole!
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 21:27:42 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Who is Hunter Thompson?
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 21:13:27 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Have an old fallen log lying by the side of a dirt access road to my mounain place. From a distance it resembles a little black bear. I could call it the virgin bear log and maybe people will rush up there and make a shrine out of it. Call it the virgin bear log and burn candles and incense. Worshippers are welcome to come and worship at the bear log.
gnat
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 20:58:55 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Hunter Thompson Urges Bush To Quit...
go doctor go
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 20:45:10 (EDT)
My two cents are:
What about Idi Amin? K'haddaff'i?
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 20:42:02 (EDT)
My two cents are:
President Bush has formally changed the face of America's primary enemy from Osama bin Laden , whereabouts unknown, to Saddam Hussein.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 20:29:54 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Where fat pineapple stinky?
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 20:25:24 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Poetry, sheer poetry!
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 20:17:29 (EDT)
My two cents are:
http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?itemid=13804
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 20:01:37 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Stay within your own focally conscious realm, bro.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 19:53:38 (EDT)
My two cents are:
ok fat man I say hello Brenda for
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 19:33:44 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Say hello Brenda for me.
Pete�
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 19:05:16 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Oh, right. Forgot that you were a sick sexual pervert, Glint, excited by children of indeterminate sexual identity. Go out and have fun, and try not to become overt, or, we all hope, you will rot forever in jail.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 18:40:16 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I can't stick around any longer. High school football game tonight. Might just happen to run into Brenda, if it went to the games that is. - Friday, September 13, 2002 at 18:30:29 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Hey, where'd the Dumbo Funshine Twins go? Are all the yucks over for the day?
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 18:16:04 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Funny, when Glint asked Pete if he had the goto function on his telescope, my first thought was, what does it matter, the moron undoubtedly hasn't been able to establish a reference point anyway. Still, it's only been what, six months or a year or two and he already knows how to do UP and DOWN.
haole Einstein wows world once again
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 17:27:44 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Listen, Lee, don't you know that if Pete says something like the mysteries aren't capable of comprehension he means approximately the opposite? The poor coon-ass has dyslexia and severe brain dysfunction. You're supposed to understand that he means everyone BUT the mysteries is not capable when he says the mysteries are not capable. Try to get inside the parameters and think focally, ass-bite.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 17:23:39 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Sure, "there are reasons why the mysteries of life are not capable of comprehension." I, on the other hand, AM capable of comprehension, so even though I don't understand the true mysteries, such as how does a fly know when to turn over to land feet-first on the ceiling, I certainly do comprehend infinity as well as the absence of any god. Of course, we're talking within the focalities here.
Lee Hannland
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 17:19:02 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Hi Glint, of course it does. Problem is I only know how to use the up/down commands and have no clue how to get it set up to actually find anything. But I will try to find something if you tell me what star it is near from the heavens-above.com website for 9 pm from my coordinates.
Pete�
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 17:06:36 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Glint
M7 - Friday, September 13, 2002 at 17:05:58 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Glint
M6 - Friday, September 13, 2002 at 17:03:33 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Glint
M8 - Friday, September 13, 2002 at 17:01:29 (EDT)
My two cents are:
No, 16:46, none. Crisco.
Pete�
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 17:01:27 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Glint
M11 - Friday, September 13, 2002 at 17:00:18 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Glint
M27 - Friday, September 13, 2002 at 16:59:33 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Glint
M13 image - Friday, September 13, 2002 at 16:57:59 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Pete, transponder error in the last message. Please ignore the alarm. It was a genuine message.
Glint
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 16:55:12 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Spielberg has a point.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 16:55:05 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I am not able to recollect. Pete, does your telescope have a "goto" feature so that you can use the computer to find things without having to star hop using a chart? If so, can you key in the name of any object and (assuming everything is set-up, aligned, and initialized properly) the telescope will zip over to the object? If so, try these objects this weekend after twilight ends, if clear: M13, M27, M11, and M8. A sampling of a globular star cluster, planetary nebula, open (or galactic) star cluster, and a diffuse nebula with embedded star cluster. Also M6 and M7 are cool with a low power eyepiece. (01) - Friday, September 13, 2002 at 16:54:02 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"He chooses to deceive the world and his own people by the longest series of fabrications that have ever been told by a leader of a nation," Ambassador Mohamed al-Douri said.
any reason why this bastard oughtn't be fried?
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 16:46:05 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Or else in infinite Heaven.
Pete�
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 16:44:17 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Not yet. I have not yet been able to open the limited parameters of my focally limited conscious realm yet to truly conceptualize infinity. I have every expectation that when and if I am able to transcend that human barrier, that I will indeed go mad or else be dead.
Pete�
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 16:43:42 (EDT)
My two cents are:
We thought that liberal talk show host Phil Donahue might have a chance with his new show on MSNBC if he reached out to conservatives and gave them an opportunity to state their case. Instead, his program has degenerated into conspiracy theories about 9/11, diatribes from leftist film maker Michael Moore, and an interview with Vladimir Posner, Donahue�s old sidekick and mouthpiece for the USSR.
Donahue himself went down to Texas to do a show with former Enron employees. One of the guests was Ralph Nader, himself a millionaire who had been a big investor in high-tech. But the interview with Moore showed what�s really wrong with the show. Both Donahue and Moore are very well-off and yet they claim to represent the little guy who lost his shirt in the corporate scandals. People don� buy it.
Moore, a multi-millionaire who says, "I'm filthy rich," has a best-selling book, Stupid White Men, and his films have made him wealthy. But he sometimes wears a baseball cap to appear like the average guy. David Harsanyi writes that, "Despite his open hatred of the rich, Moore has few qualms about aping an authentic capitalist, peddling his new book on seemingly all news, entertainment and radio shows running." Moore used the Donahue show as a soapbox against President Bush, calling him a "clown" because he told a business forum that he had been on the job for eighteen months and still hadn�t figured out how the federal budget works.
Following Moore, Donahue interviewed black racist Louis Farrakhan for an entire hour. Among other things, Farrakhan claimed that the U.S. Government introduced crack cocaine into the black community and made AIDS the number one killer of black people in American and Africa. "And I�m not saying something as an insane radical," Farrakhan said. Donahue had no rebuttal for this.
Asked by a viewer and caller why the black children or grandchildren of slaves should get reparations from whites who didn�t own slaves, Farrakhan brought up the trial of black football star O.J. Simpson for the murder of his ex-wife and a friend. Most observers thought Simpson avoided a guilty verdict by having clever lawyers who made police conduct the issue and accused them of racism. No wonder Donahue is losing viewers.
fry donahue's flabby ass too! and toss in bastards like moore and farrakhan while you're at it!
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 16:42:46 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The 16:39:23 faux Pete� does faill the (01) test. Doinkerz.
Pete�
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 16:41:44 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Is that how you went instantly mad, Pete?
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 16:40:12 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Something tells me Pete uses a telescope to look for infinity. Sort of like a religious zealot looking for God in the clouds. Is the man mad?
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 16:40:02 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Ergo, there is a God.
Pete�
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 16:39:23 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Associated Press
Senior European officials reacted positively to President George W. Bush's call Thursday for Iraq to comply with U.N. resolutions or face the consequences, while the Iraqi ambassador denounced it as "series of fabrications."
"He chooses to deceive the world and his own people by the longest series of fabrications that have ever been told by a leader of a nation," Ambassador Mohamed al-Douri said.
The Iraqi reaction was predictable, surprising not in its content, but the speed with which it was issued. At home, the Iraqi media took no notice of the Bush speech, choosing instead to play soap operas and movies on television.
Al-Douri said further Iraqi reaction would come when Iraq had its turn at addressing the General Assembly later in the week.
The foreign policy chief of the closest U.S. ally, Britain's Jack Straw, said the Bush address was a "tough and effective speech."
"The United Kingdom will work closely with the United States and its international partners in the Security Council to develop" further resolutions on Iraq. Straw declined to set a date for when a resolution would be ready but said "this is an urgent matter."
Norwegian Foreign Minister Jan Petersen said the president "challenged us to (live) up to our responsibilities and he was very clear on all the violations which we certainly have to take seriously."
But, he added, "we are facing a lot of very, very difficult challenges and choices, and I guess we will have to choose among a lot of bad options, really."
Romanian Foreign Minister Mircea Geoana welcomed Bush's speech and stood firmly behind the U.S. position on Iraq.
But in an interview with ABC's "Good Morning America," Afghan President Hamid Karzai said he worried American involvement in Iraq could diminish attention that was needed to continue eradicating the Taliban and al-Qaida from the country and rebuilding its infrastructure.
Karzai, who spoke before Bush's address, said any action should be taken with the agreement and participation of the Arab world.
everyone's jumping on the bandwagon now.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 16:38:00 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Personally, I think that if anyone is capable of attempting to truly understand infinity, then that person will turn instantly mad. Sort of like staring into direct sunlight. Or watching the movie Pi too many tiems. See, there are reasons why the mysteries of life are not capable of comprehension. True comprehension. Once you investigate the real limits in your own focally conscious realm, then you will see how limited our ability to process information still remains.
Pete�
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 16:36:45 (EDT)
My two cents are:
UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - Stopping short of supporting military action against Iraq, Russian Foreign Minister Igor Ivanov warned Baghdad on Friday to cooperate with the United Nations or face the consequences. Ivanov met European Union delegates and then spoke to Russian reporters as Secretary of State Colin Powell sought agreement on a U.N. Security Council resolution calling for Baghdad's compliance with U.N. disarmament demands.
tick tock
but i was told that nobody but us wants to take out saddam? - Friday, September 13, 2002 at 16:35:17 (EDT)
My two cents are:
A bomb squad member attaches a string to an item in one of the suspected cars on Alligator Alley where the two cars were stopped and three men were detained. A robot is at the back of the cars.
Three medical students of Middle Eastern descent who were stopped as suspected terrorists on Alligator Alley early Friday morning remained detained after they were overheard in a Georgia restaurant vowing to make America ``cry on 9/13.''
Federal sources involved in the investigation said they believe the three men - all U.S. citizens - were playing a stupid joke on another restaurant patron who gave them a suspicious look.
All three were on their way from Illinois to take medical training in Miami.
Federal sources said the men could be released as early as today with a ticket for blowing the I-75 toll booth near Naples.
Alligator Alley was closed to traffic all day Friday as explosives investigators searched for any kinds of devices in the two cars. Those searches had come up empty as of 1 p.m. Friday afternoon.
''It appears there isn't a terrorist threat as it relates to destrutive devices in the cars,'' Gov. Jeb Bush said at a Miami news conference Friday. ``If this was a hoax, my hope is these people would be prosecuted.''
One federal source said although there is a federal statute against making terrorist threats, it remained unclear on Friday exactly what transpired Thursday morning in a Shoney's restaurant in Calhoun, Ga.
Eunice Stone, a nurse, told authorities and Fox News Channel she was sitting in a booth next to the three men shortly about 10:30 a.m. when she overheard the men laughing about 9/11 and making comments like ''if we don't have enough to bring it down I have contacts'' and ``if they're mourning 9/11 what are they going to do about 9/13?''
In an interview on Fox News Channel on Friday, Stone said she thought they might be playing a hoax.
''We hesitated to call anyone because we thought, they're just playing us,'' Stone said. ``But then I thought what's the right thing to do? If it turns out it's nothing, then it's nothing.
''I hope I haven't done something wrong,'' she said. ``I hope I haven't caused someone problems that really didn't do anything because I wouldn't want to cause someone problems. But at the same time I thought what if they really are doing something and I caught them?''
Stone collected license tag numbers and called Georgia authorities, who issued an alert for the two cars.
The odyssey ended after midnight Friday morning when a Collier County sheriff's deputy pulled over both cars after they blew throught the Naples toll booth. However, several other things conspired to escalate the incident even further.
According to police sources, all three men at first were uncooperative - denying consent to search the car.
''It was probably not the right time for them to be copping an attitude with police,'' said one federal law enforcement source who was up all night monitoring the investigation. ``But that's exactly what happened.''
Then, two separate police dogs alerted to the presence of incendiary materials in both cars, and the license tag on one of the cars wasn't registered to the vehicle.
Authorities are still investigating the license tag issue, but said Friday they do not suspect the three in a terrorist plot.
The Miami-Dade Police Department's explosives robot has been called in to further examine the cars and their contents.
According to investigators, all three men -- a Lebanese, a Jordanian and an Iranian - are U.S. citizens - one U.S. born.
Investigators have not found any links between the men and al-Qaeda -- the international terrorist organization beleived to responsible for the World Trade Center attacks -- nor have their names turned up on any federal terrorist watch lists, the sources said.
The three men apparently were enroute to South Miami to attend a medical college.
fry the bastards!
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 16:30:27 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Latest Articles Post New Article
Report: Bin Laden secretary had contacts with an OR man
KATU.com, by NA Original Article
Posted By: orbusmax - 9/13/2002 2:21:54 PM Post Reply
PORTLAND - Osama bin Laden's former personal secretary had extensive contact with an Oregon man in the late 1990s, according to a published report.
Televangelism
Opinion Journal/Wall Street Journal, by James Taranto Original Article
Posted By: Dreadnought - 9/13/2002 2:21:01 PM Post Reply
Is the BBC a religious network? We didn't think so, but its Web site has a page explaining "how to become a Muslim." No such instructions appear on the site's pages about other religions such as Christianity, Judaism or Hinduism.
High jumper chooses Lacey as Olympic training ground
The Olympian, by Gail Wood Original Article
Posted By: orbusmax - 9/13/2002 2:17:39 PM Post Reply
Athlete whose leg was amputated will appear in Sports Illustrated.
We�re With You All the Way To Fight Terrorism
Arab News, by Arab News Staff Original Article
Posted By: Man U Fan - 9/13/2002 2:14:50 PM Post Reply
Prince Abdullah, the [Saudi] regent, has said that the �perpetrators of the Sept. 11 terror attacks against the friendly American people were, by their criminal acts, actually targeting the entire mankind, and wanted their evil deeds to be the spark that would ignite a bloody clash among religions and civilizations.� (snip) �Driven by its belief that terrorism is a fatal disease threatening every society and that all efforts should be exerted to eliminate it, the Kingdom will remain committed to its solid and decisive stand vis-a-vis terrorism, and will, alone and in cooperation with the international alliance you are leading, go ahead on the path of launching unabated war against terrorists."
Bush 'Highly Doubtful' Iraq Will Meet Demands to Disarm
The New York Times, by DAVID E. SANGER with ELISABETH BUMILLER Original Article
Posted By: Dreadnought - 9/13/2002 2:14:31 PM Post Reply
UNITED NATIONS, Sept. 13 - President Bush said today that he thought it was "highly doubtful" that Saddam Hussein would meet demands to disarm, but that he was expecting a quick United Nations resolution on the issue. He also expressed annoyance with Congressional Democrats, who have asked for time to consider any use of force by the United States against Iraq. "I can't imagine an elected United States-elected member of the United States Senate or House of Representatives saying, `I think I'm going to wait for the United Nations to make a decision,' " he told reporters.
Arrivederci saddam
NRO - The Corner, by Jim Robbins Original Article
Posted By: BerkeleyThomas - 9/13/2002 2:02:51 PM Post Reply
La Republica, a left of center daily in Rome, published a nationwide poll today that shows a majority of Italians favoring military action against Iraq. In response to the question, "In your view, do the terrorist threat and suspicion of Saddam Husayn's aggressive intentions justify preventive intervention in Iraq on the part of the United States and of the individual allies?" the results were Yes: 53.0, No: 43.0, No opinion: 4.0.
3 demonstrators arrested outside U.S. Senate debate
NJ.com, by Kevin Shea, Trenton Times Original Article
Posted By: Gray Ghost - 9/13/2002 2:02:25 PM Post Reply
Forrester allies answered pro-Torricelli chants of "Six more years" by adding, "in jail" and "in prison."
Windows Media Player 9--no uninstall?
ZDNet News, by Joe Wilcox Original Article
Posted By: Kalkin - 9/13/2002 1:59:15 PM Post Reply
Some people looking to uninstall the latest test version of Microsoft's new Windows Media Player 9 Series software may find the program is like a bad houseguest: It just won't leave. Microsoft's latest media software doesn't include a mechanism for uninstalling the software on Windows Millennium Edition (Me) or Windows XP operating system.
Spielberg: September 11 Film Should Never Happen
Celebrity News: 13th September 2002, by Celebrity News Original Article
Posted By: Char - 9/13/2002 1:59:03 PM Post Reply
Legendary director Steven Spielberg has called on filmmakers to ensure a movie about the terrorist attacks of September 11 is never made. The Schindler's List Oscar winner believes the horrors of the airborne attacks on Washington DC and New York and the plane crash in Shanksville, Pennsylvania, should be kept from a celluloid dramatization. He says, "There should never be a film about September 11. It was the 21st century's moment of infamy and we should all make sure it never happens again."
TSA Outrage - closed airports, NO WARNING
Aero-News net, by Unknown Original Article
Posted By: Captain Chuck - 9/13/2002 1:57:45 PM Post Reply
We wouldn't have believed it if we hadn't gotten it first-hand from the embattled manager of the College Park Airport himself.
Inspectors agree with neighbors: Weird 'art' just a mess
Memphis Commercial Appeal, by Jody Callahan Original Article
Posted By: shamus - 9/13/2002 1:56:32 PM Post Reply
Robert 'Prince Mongo' Hodges calls it art. The city calls it inappropriate. Both sides are scheduled to appear in Judge Larry Potter's Environmental Court at 10:30 a.m. today to present their case. Once again, Hodges - the longtime Memphis eccentric who claims to be an alien from the plas Environmental Court at 10:30 a.m. today to present their case. Once again, Hodges - the longtime Memphis eccentric who claims to be an alien from the planet Zambodia - has run afoul of city authorities over a collection of items displayed in the front yard of his home at 925 Colonial near Park.
Two FBI agents injured in border fight
El Paso Times, by Staff Original Article
Posted By: cribsheet - 9/13/2002 1:52:07 PM Post Reply
Two FBI agents were injured, one seriously, when they confronted more than a dozen suspected railroad thieves just across the New Mexico state line from El Paso. Agents arrested 15 people. The injured agents� names and the nature of their injuries were not immediately released.-snip-Gangs from Mexico sometimes have been reported burglarizing from stopped trains in the Sunland-Anapra area.
Traficant, Hall Absences Leave Congress Down Two Democrats
Fox8Cleveland.com, by Fox8Cleveland.com Original Article
Posted By: mabelkitty - 9/13/2002 1:50:16 PM Post Reply
(09/13/02 - Washington) -- Ohio Democratic congresswoman Marcy Kaptur says Ohio will suffer politically while being down two congressmen. The vacancies were created when Democrat James Traficant was expelled from the House and Democrat Tony Hall resigned to take a United Nations post. The moves left Kaptur, of Toledo, as Ohio's senior Democrat. She says having two fewer representatives could cost Ohio its fair share of the federal budget and could hurt the Democratic Party on national issues.
Russia angered by U.S. sanctions on three Russian firms
Yahoo News, by Sergei Venyavsky, Associated Press Original Article
Posted By: Gray Ghost - 9/13/2002 1:49:02 PM Post Reply
ROSTOV-ON-DON, Russia - A U.S. State department decision to impose sanctions on three Russian companies for allegedly violating non-proliferation norms drew an angry response Friday from government and company officials. U.S. Undersecretary of State John Bolton, on a visit to Russia, said the sanctions were imposed because of the sale of "lethal military equipment" to countries accused of sponsoring terrorism.
Low-Flying Plane Scares Local Residents
Newsnet5.com, by Newsnet5.com Original Article
Posted By: mabelkitty - 9/13/2002 1:47:50 PM Post Reply
CHARDON, Ohio -- A mysterious plane flying low, dipping its wings and circling over Geauga County Thursday sent an emotional wave through a Chardon community. NewsChannel5's Leon Bibb reported that the jet circled low enough to prompt fearful thoughts of the terrorists' attacks on Sept. 11, 2001.
Microsoft warns of Word security hole
ZDNet News, by Robert Lemos
- A security flaw in Microsoft's flagship word processing software could allow a document to hijack files from any Windows PC on which it's opened, the software giant said Thursday. A would-be thief would have to take extraordinary care in setting up the scenario, however, including knowing the exact location and name of the desired file as well as persuading the victim to open, modify, save and then return the Word document to the sender.
so what else is new/?
get used to it, windows weenies - Friday, September 13, 2002 at 16:23:50 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Maybe Spielberg is concerned that any movie about 9/11 will be as bad as "Tora, Tora, Tora" and "Pearl Harbor."
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 16:23:20 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Legendary director Steven Spielberg has called on filmmakers to ensure a movie about the terrorist attacks of September 11 is never made. The Schindler's List Oscar winner believes the horrors of the airborne attacks on Washington DC and New York and the plane crash in Shanksville, Pennsylvania, should be kept from a celluloid dramatization. He says, "There should never be a film about September 11. It was the 21st century's moment of infamy and we should all make sure it never happens again."
tell that to the makers of "perl harbor" and "tora tora tora"
typical remark from the hollywood liberal elite - Friday, September 13, 2002 at 16:19:40 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Someone here who likes posting directions for others to follow has flaps for an ass?
how interesting!
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 16:17:12 (EDT)
My two cents are:
white house squatter= George Bush
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 16:05:57 (EDT)
My two cents are:
criminal drunk driving loser ... George Bush?
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 15:54:26 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Recent surveys show that virtually half of all American citizens feel we have too many rights and that the Constitution goes too far? Interesting.
gnat
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 15:49:16 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Could have been worse. That is if Albert Gore III had cocaine in his shoe at the time of arrest.
gnat
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 15:36:20 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Is that how Glint's face got all squished like that?
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 15:33:22 (EDT)
My two cents are:
You can take the clodhopper out of Nebraska, but you can't take Nebraska out of the clodhopper.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 15:31:27 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I figure it to be Glint, Mr. Question Mark. Another guy who doesn't have too much upstairs.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 15:29:07 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Does anyone know if Jesse Jackson's ugly tar ass is on its way to Florida to pontificate clouds of election outrage yet?
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 15:28:59 (EDT)
My two cents are:
???
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- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 15:27:57 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Albert Gore III, the 19-year-old son of former Vice President Al Gore, was arrested near the Pentagon last week by U.S. military police from Fort Myer and charged with driving under the influence of alcohol, reckless driving, and possession of alcohol by a minor.
Jano Cabrera, spokesman for the former vice president, confirmed yesterday that the younger Gore was "pulled over for a DWI" during the early-morning hours of Sept. 5. The arrest was made outside of the base, which is near the Pentagon.
hey, i thought we were talking about Jeb Bush's daughter not a criminal drunk driving son of a sore loser and would be white house squatter
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 15:24:04 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Pete's sort of a dork, isn't he?
Lee Hannland
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 15:16:39 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Better yet, Pete, for a quick look at infinity, grab the two flaps of your ass, put your face between them, and let go.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 15:15:20 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Pete's not a madman, just a guy who never grew up. A flower child without any flowers. His parameters of fixed reason are a little twisted. And he's not very bright. Add it all together, and you get, "look Ma, I can say that God is the vibration where nothing ends, I'm deep, huh Ma? It will make the girls like me, won't it ma and I won't have to pretend the Penthouse Pet is my girlfriend?"
.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 15:12:12 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Pete, put two mirrors facing each other and get in the middle, for a quick glance at infinity.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 15:08:24 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The "parameters of fixed reason."
Petespeak
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 15:07:46 (EDT)
My two cents are:
So what's with this Senator Biden stumping for Bush? Could he just be another DINO?
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 15:04:36 (EDT)
My two cents are:
It's amazing how a madman's mind works.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 15:00:50 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Right, lunatic. But conceiving of this god is pretty simple. Right?
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 14:57:47 (EDT)
My two cents are:
This dude has done some serious drugs.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 14:57:14 (EDT)
My two cents are:
By the by, Happy Triskaidekaphobia G'Day! Doinkz (01) Pete� - Friday, September 13, 2002 at 14:55:30 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Come on gnat, even your poetry sucks. Look, doinkz, none of you can tell me how infinity extends outside the parameters of fixed reason. There is no way to conceive of infinity because we are destined to limit our analysis by what is, not what isssssssssssssssssssssssssss...
Pete�
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 14:51:09 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Just in the nick of time! Welcome back!
Harlan St. Wolf
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 14:49:13 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I just wanted to let you all know that I'm back from vacation and ready to post again!
45-1-1/2
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 14:48:00 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Do you really want a spacey God?
gnat
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 14:38:52 (EDT)
My two cents are:
What's the indefensible? The idea that consenting sex among adults isn't an impeacheable offense? Or the slightly more evolved idea that it isn't an offense at all? Poor Pete, still gnawing on the bones of yesterday's failed political smears.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 14:38:42 (EDT)
My two cents are:
It's always the easy concept with you, isn't it? Unfortunately, you're full of ten kinds of shit. It is not easier to conceive of a god than it is to conceive of an infinite universe. Not only that, it's equally hard to conceive of 13 being an unlucky number or stepping on a crack breaking your mother's back.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 14:36:59 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Do Democrats want equal time with those geeks?
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 14:36:12 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Which Cub Scout den did Pete steal his "infinity = God" philosophy from?
irate third grader
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 14:35:02 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Does Praise the Lord give Democrats equal time?
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 14:34:56 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The absence of God is infinite.
See how easy it is, Pineapple?
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 14:32:55 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Not really, doinker. I say it is easier to conceive of the possibility of the existence of a God, than it is to conceive of an infinite universe. Think about it. Hard. Long. Far. Like no end ... as in ... it has no end ... ever ... anywhere ... sort of like the liar Party's defense of the indefensible and suicidal socializm. Doink.
Pete�
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 14:32:16 (EDT)
My two cents are:
These guys sound like George Bush, this war between good and evil.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 14:28:20 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Hhhhmmm.... I see what they mean about idiot savants. And to think that nobody from Anaximines to Spinoza thought it up before Pete!
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 14:25:57 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Holy war update: God's guys winning
Sept. 13, 2002 12:00:00
In case you didn't know, there's a war going in Arizona. But don't worry. The self-described good guys are winning.
The war that hasn't received much publicity. Those fighting it have kept quiet about it. Outsiders were privy to it only if they were fortunate enough to see the holy warriors' joint appearance on Praise the Lord, broadcast on Channel 21 (KPAZ).
Matt Salmon, the Republican candidate for governor, prayed for help fighting this "war of epic proportions."
"And I'm not talking about the war on terrorism," he said. "I'm talking about the war that is right within our own country, the war between good and evil."
He was joined on the panel by Trent Franks, the Republican nominee for Congress in District 2; Andrew Thomas, the Republican nominee for attorney general; and David Petersen, the Republican nominee for state treasurer.
One of the hosts, Bruce Gilbert, prayed for divine assistance.
"We've lost a whole lot. We're going to gain a whole lot back," he said. "We're not going to be passive but politically active . . . so we can see some new things happening in these crucial, critical, pivotal elections this fall, in Jesus' name."
It worked. Salmon, Franks, Thomas and Petersen all won the primary on Tuesday.
Now their quest to take government back in the name of God can continue.
On the program, broadcast twice in August, Franks joined Salmon in describing an attack on America "from outside and from within. . . .
"(And) the latter has a greater complication for the survival of America even in the things that come against us in terrorism."
This man, looking to be the congressman for the West Valley and the northwestern part of the state, apparently believes that protecting institutions like Luke Air Force Base and the Palo Verde Nuclear Generating Station takes a back seat to fighting a war against unnamed heretics.
"We have to protect the soul of this country," he said.
Similarly, Thomas claimed on the program that crime is "a reflection of the nation's soul," and can only be solved through religion.
"The only way we can solve crime is not just through law enforcement, it is also through a re-emergence of faith."
Thomas says he would give prisoners religion. Then they would walk the right path. In his view, secular programs that educate or rehabilitate have failed, leaving Christian conversion as the only answer.
Petersen says he will institute a "praise card" program if he is elected.
It would concentrate on a specific "godly principle" each month.
As an example, Petersen gave the definition of character: "the inward motivation to do the right thing."
After reading it, he said, "You and I know we've been talking about what the inward motivation is. It's the spirit of God. It's the Holy Ghost. It's the Holy Spirit.
"This can be preached in the classroom today and we don't have to fight the battle of bringing prayer back."
After the candidates spoke, one of the hosts started reading off prayers that had been phoned in. "There's a lot of people who called today, a lot of people who call in regularly to this program, who are burdened."
One person had health problems; another needed money; another needed a better job.
It was a sampling of the woes many face in Arizona.
And in response, the panel prayed, sure in their hearts that the solution to these problems is found in Christianity.
"We need changed lives," Gilbert said. "We need people affected by the presence and power of God almighty."
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 14:22:39 (EDT)
My two cents are:
It's obvious you're not really thinking about it. It's all pretty simple. IF the universe is infinite, that means there is no end to it. By accepting this, you must accept the existence of God. There is no other way.
Do the math
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 14:18:51 (EDT)
My two cents are:
What if what's best for the United States is to wait for Snippy to lose the next election? Is it OK to wait for the UN then?
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 14:14:52 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I'm sitting here casually conceiving of no God, and conceiving of an infinite universe. It seems easy, so what's the catch? Do I have to conceive of popsicles at the same time, or chew gum and walk?
no God forever
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 14:11:39 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Bush also mocked Democrats and other lawmakers who want U.N. action before a congressional vote on confronting Saddam.
"Democrats waiting for the U.N. to act?" Bush asked with chuckle. "I can't imagine an elected ... member of the United States Senate or House of Representatives saying 'I think I'm going to wait for the United Nations to make a decision'."
Bush added, "It seems like to me that if you're representing the United States you ought to be making a decision on what's best for the United States."
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 14:06:14 (EDT)
My two cents are:
???
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 14:01:54 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Look cowardly anon, there is no end of the universe, as you falsely recollect, if the universe is infinite. Think about it, infinity = no end. Duh. So, tell me how you can conceive of no God, but can conceive of an infinite universe. No way.
Pete�
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 13:59:55 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I am beginning to notice a definite link between oil, politicians,and destruction.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 13:48:19 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The suffering is great, and our responsibilities are clear." George W Bush in speech to the United Nations. Does this apply to curbing light pollution as well?
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 13:47:40 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Pete certainly does spend a lot of time trembling with fear. If it's not global warming it's Saddam Hussein. Must have been bitten by a lot of dogs and fallen down a lot of stairs as a kid. The poor guy is a bundle of nerves, fear on the hoof, a born chickenshit. Chicken Little, Henny Penny, and Turkey Lurkey all rolled up into one. Yet he'll probably die from something he never even thought of-- bad clam, maybe, or beaten to death by his own children. Probably better than growing old and ending up in a wheelchair on the porch, shouting filth and threats at passersby, imagining them to be socialists.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 13:46:18 (EDT)
My two cents are:
So what consensus was reached regarding the threat of light pollution at the Earth Summit in Johannesburg last week? Or did they just waste their time on other crap?
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 13:45:59 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Remember back when Pete was trembling with fear because he thought he had read that the North Sea was rising 100 feet a year? That was classic. Classic Pete, the seaweed-hugger. Then he got into the vibration at the edge of the universe and dropped out of Friends of the Earth. A sad loss for the environment.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 13:35:51 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I say we buy the Prime Minister of Tuvalu some stilts and stop worrying so much.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 13:33:05 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"weapons of mass murder" Tell that to the military-industrial complex.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 13:29:01 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"Today, these standards, and this security, are challenged. Our commitment to human dignity is challenged by persistent poverty and raging disease. The suffering is great, and our responsibilities are clear." George W Bush in speech to the United Nations. Does this apply to environmental reforms as well?
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 13:14:28 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"We know that Saddam Hussein pursued weapons of mass murder even when inspectors were in his country." George W Bush
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 13:11:23 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"They came. They saw. They concurred. And that just about sums up what 104 world leaders achieved at the Earth Summit in Johannesburg last week. They did reach agreement, but whether what was agreed will make much difference to the twin crises they had all flown in to address - deepening world poverty and environmental deterioration - is doubtful indeed.
They came, they confessed to each other, from a world in deep trouble. Chancellor Gerhard Schr�der of Germany told his fellow leaders how his country and the Czech Republic and Austria had just been hit by "the biggest flood disaster in their history", showing "that climate change is no longer a sceptical forecast, but bitter reality". From the other side of the globe, Saufatu Sopoanga, Prime Minister of tiny Tuvalu - which is due to disappear under the Pacific as sea levels rise with global warming - had a similar tale to tell. Just a few weeks ago he had "a very scary experience. It was at low tide, with no strong winds, when 10-metre waves washed right across the land".
Tony Blair reminded the gathering that "a child in Africa dies every three seconds from famine, disease or conflict". The day before, on his way to the summit, the Prime Minister had spoken of the billion people in the world without safe water to drink, the 2.5 billion without basic sanitation, the felling each year of an area of forest two-thirds the size of the United Kingdom, and the destruction and degradation of a third of the planet's coral reefs.
"We know the problems," he told the summit. "We know the solutions. Let us together find the political will to deliver them."
The other threat. Will the U.N. act multilaterally?
"For as John Prescott, the Deputy Prime Minister, told me in the only interview he gave during the summit, the whole system of multilateral negotiations built up through the United Nations over the past 50 years was at stake. If we fail here, he warned, things would "unravel on a scale we have not seen before".
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/environment/story.jsp?story=331352
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 13:04:38 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Top shelf satire, there, Glint. "Watch Brit." Haw.
haw!
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 12:51:27 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Erased posts. Requires resilience to play in this sandbox. Especially the graphics illustrating supposedly female toys. Throw sand and then have a tantrum.
gnat
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 12:47:50 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Great weather. Been out on 7 of the past 8 nights. Now with the moon coming around I've had to adjust my schedule. Come home from work, eat dinner, watch Brit, sleep a few hours. Go outside 3 or 4 hours, back to bed. Get up and go to work. The link below shows a nice cluster of galaxies I ventured through last night. Was able to identify 16 members, some of which are beyond the edge of the field in the image.
Glint
"The Pisces Chain" *click* - Friday, September 13, 2002 at 12:26:18 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Who erased the post threads? If you want me to quit for good, I will if posts are erased. You decide.
Pete�
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 16:56:43 (EDT)
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 11:58:58 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The best post of the day was the one where Pete threatened to quit if the gremlins don't stop erasing his "threads."
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 11:57:53 (EDT)
My two cents are:
This is the best: My two cents are: You wish, wench. More like your fetish for Long Dong SilvEr. We know you like dark tunnels and long rods. You bait us for it daily. You love it, don't you ya sick twisted scrEw. Wait, I got a big one coming your way. Hold on now. Open up....
Pete�
- Friday, February 16, 2001 at 20:07:59 (EST)
Oh, I see its pussed over and sewn shut. It's OK, your foul mouth will do fine. Open Wide. POW!!! Pete� - Friday, February 16, 2001 at 20:03:11 (EST)
My two cents are: OK, open your twat, cuntE. I big one cumming your way. POW!!!
Pete�
- Friday, February 16, 2001 at 20:02:07 (EST)
Kiss my arse you set up pig. You are the biggest foul mouthed bitch on this place. Go to hell. Socialsits better watch out what they wish for.
Pete�
- Friday, February 16, 2001 at 20:43:45 (EST)
... ShE* was crushed and wimpered out with some
dodge about foul things that actually emanated from her own vile* hole ....
Pete�
- Saturday, May 12, 2001 at 15:50:52 (EDT)
top shelf satire
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 11:57:01 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I still think Dr. J.'s jism lyrics are the best.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 11:51:08 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I don't care what anyone says. It was not just the best post of the day, it was the best post ever, except maybe for the ones about pinching loaf. If fornigate shuts down without another top shelf satirical post about masturbating with a broom-stick, we can still all go home satisfied. Whoo-whee!
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 11:50:28 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Hey, House of Meat, you have to agree that the part about the broomstick is a touch of genius. It takes a top shelf imagination to allude to masturbation with a broomstick. In fact I... I can't go on! Haw haw haw haw haw.
it's too top shelf hilarious!
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 11:47:08 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I agree that it was top shelf satire. Top shelf satire often starts with posting somebody else's cartoon of a vibrator that is also a spaceship and puts women in orbit. What puts it firmly on the top shelf is adding an illiterate caption that says that one of the orbiting woman is someone you don't like. A masterpiece!
House of Meat
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 11:44:29 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Hey, wait a minute, guy! Glint says it was top shelf satire! Have a few Olys and re-think your reaction.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 11:41:38 (EDT)
My two cents are:
He could have meant "source of satisfaction." But I think he wanted to say that she gets a "sense of satisfaction" from a broomstick, the same way he does from masturbating to thoughts of his imaginary Penthouse girlfriends. The poor guy couldn't figure out how to make it literate, so he never made his point, even with the snappy visual aid. Think of it this way: the Peteworm crawled halfway out from under the turd, but his hind end stuck in a particularly gooey gob and he never made it all the way.
.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 11:39:33 (EDT)
My two cents are:
It certainly isn't a fake Pete post. Listen: "Notice how it resembles a broom stick, which I ptresume is her main sense of satisfaction ..." Pure Pete. A broomstick is a "sense of satisfaction." The poor bastard can't seem to make words fit, one with another. What is it? A fatal mis-wiring of the brain? Too much television? I tend to think it's common stupidity, but if someone comes up with another plausible theory, I'm willing to listen.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 11:32:34 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Pete or faux, 21:43:32 was the best post of the day, IMO. To recap, "This ought to put E into orbit. Where 'she' belongs. Notice how it resembles a broom stick, which I ptresume is her main sense of satisfaction ..." Broom handle: $1.75. Top shelf satire: priceless!
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 11:26:11 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Hey, I can sell them to myself! I'll own Iraq!
Halliburton
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 11:14:29 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Hey, if we take out Iraq, where am I going to sell my howitzer tubes?
Halliburton
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 11:13:31 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Peggy Noonan is back, big time! Way to go, my sister!
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 10:42:37 (EDT)
My two cents are:
That's the second fifth of the world. We'll kill them next. We've got to get nasty. No more Mr. Tourist-With-Bermuda-Shorts-and-Kodak.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 10:30:30 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I've never liked the cut of that guy's jib down in Borneo. Always suspected him of wanting weapons of mass destruction. Let's hit him next.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 10:28:02 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Hey, if it's right with Peggy Noonan then it's right with me. Let's stop this evil bastard from doing whatever it is he might do. Shake in your boots, Idi Amin, you're next.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 10:26:26 (EDT)
My two cents are:
If I had said something back then, I wouldn't have this great job working for a bandy-legged little National Guard dodger who wants to make halfhearted warfare for half-baked reasons that the American people can not understand or support.
Colin Powell
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 10:25:13 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I probably should have said something back then, but I wouldn't be a general now, would I?
Colin Powell
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 10:08:18 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"I particularly condemn the way our political leaders supplied the manpower for that (the Vietnam) war. The policies -- determining who would be drafted and who would be deferred, who would serve and who would escape, who would die and who would live -- were an antidemocratic disgrace. I can never forgive a leadership that said, in effect: These young men -- poorer, less educated, less privileged -- are expendable (someone described them as "economic cannon fodder"), but the rest are too good to risk. I am angry that so many sons of the powerful and well placed and many professional athletes (who were probably healthier than any of us) managed to wangle slots in Reserve and National Guard units . Of the many tragedies of Vietnam, this raw class discrimination strikes me as the most damaging to the ideal that all Americans are created equal and owe equal allegiance to our country....
Better-off kids beat the draft with college deferments ....
Many of my generation, the career captains, majors, and lieutenant colonels seasoned in that (Vietnam) war, vowed that when our turn came to call the shots, we would not quietly acquiesce in halfhearted warfare for half-baked reasons that the American people could not understand or support. If we could make good on that promise to ourselves, to the civilian leadership, and to the country, then the sacrifices of Vietnam would not have been in vain."
Colin Powell
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 09:31:09 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Exactly. Can America really take its resentment of the Evil One and focus it on that funny moustache guy who gave us back our warthog pilot when we asked for him? What if Dick the Mole and Rummy and Snippy go charging up San Juan Hill and nobody follows? Me, I'm voting for leaving Baghdad to the Baghdadians. Straight Democratic ticket.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 09:25:10 (EDT)
My two cents are:
They're trying to keep the "war" spirit alive by re-whining last year's airplane suicides. Let's think about our bandy-legged little guy, and about the evil one in Baghdad. Baghdad? I can see Oran when Rommel is in Libya, but Baghdad when Arrowsmith is in Topeka? It doesn't make any sense. Baghdad? What the fuck do we have to do with Baghdad?
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 09:20:34 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I read the first few lines of the screed. Sounds almost like Aunt Peggy.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 09:16:00 (EDT)
My two cents are:
President Bush begins to make the case against Iraq.
George W. Bush is back, big time. In fact with a roar.
He seemed to lie low this summer, but Wednesday he re-emerged to lead the nation and stand for all it has been through this year. He spoke of mourning and memory, of our purpose and our plans. He was inspiriting.
Did you see him with the families of Flight 93 in Pennsylvania, and then with the mourners in New York, at Ground Zero? He was a genuine comfort. A genuine one. He understood it was about them and not him, and in each case he gave the families what they signaled they needed. If they wanted to talk he stopped and talked; when they wanted to hug him and weep, he took them in his arms. He was there to serve, to give and to represent. Even now, two years after the previous president, it is still a relief--an enormous relief--to have a president who doesn't make every event a sickness-tinged drama in which he simulates emotions he does not feel and draws the cameras with the heat of his need, his persona, his never-sated ego. Smarmy bathos is gone. Thanks again, God.
But let's go to yesterday and Mr. Bush's speech at the U.N. It was big and it was shrewd in its rhetorical approach. The U.N. expected Mr. Bush to make the case for an invasion of Iraq based on Saddam's threat to the security of the United States. Mr. Bush didn't do that. Saddam he said, as if noting the obvious, "has made the case against himself." Saddam has brazenly and consistently defied the United Nations. Saddam endangers the peace the U.N. member states so understandably desire. Saddam threatens them. But it's all right: The United States will come to the U.N.'s aid and protect its member states from Saddam.
It was something. And it left the administration's foes in the audience looking, at the end, as if they were thinking: Man, how do I knock this one down?
Kofi Annan, it seemed to me, did Mr. Bush a favor when he spoke first, and with great gravity. Mr. Annan was expected to voice strong opposition to independent American action on Iraq, but that was not quite his subject. His subject: regional threats to world peace. Nothing he said was objectionable, and soon enough he was speaking of Saddam's record of defiance of past U.N. resolutions. He did not explicitly or even implicitly refute what he knew of Bush administration thinking on Iraq. He called for a peaceful resolution to the problem, through United Nations offices.
But it was Mr. Anan's gravity, his moral seriousness, that provided a platform for the words of the visiting American president.
This is what Mr. Bush said: We in the United Nations have an "urgent duty" to protect lives. The peace of the world must not be disturbed by "the will and the wickedness of any one man." Yes, our common security is threatened by regional conflicts, but an even greater threat is "outlaw groups and regimes," those in terror camps and terror cells who wish to fulfill "mad ambitions." And they will, if Iraq supplies them with the weapons of mass destruction they so desire.
We did not "appease" Iraq when it unlawfully moved against Kuwait in 1990. The U.S., with the U.N., forced Saddam back. He accepted defeat in clear agreements. He has since broken "every pledge." He promised to stop abusing his people, but he uses "summary execution and torture" against them. "Repression is all pervasive." He is brutal and sadistic; his means of repression is "a totalitarian state."
Saddam promised to return prisoners of war from the Gulf War. "He broke his promise." He is in "direct defiance" of a series of U.N. directives. Saddam said he would stop encouraging terrorism--he didn't. He said he would stop attempting to assassinate international foes--he hasn't. He agreed to destroy his stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction and not develop new ones. "Iraq has broken every aspect of this fundamental pledge."
The Iraqi "regime" (never "government" in this speech) is developing chemical weapons, and has admitted to a crash nuclear weapons program. It has the infrastructure to build nuclear weapons. If Saddam gets fissile material, he will have them in a year. "There is little doubt about his appetite" for them. He is building long range missiles, and "madly" buying arms for "mad ends."
Mr. Bush told the U.N.: You know Saddam has defied all requests for cooperation and information, because you have denounced his behavior in the past, and you were right to denounce it.
"The history, the logic and the facts lead to one conclusion," Mr. Bush said. "Saddam Hussein's regime is a grave and gathering danger."
Will the U.N. "gamble" the lives of "millions" on mere hopes that Saddam will change? Must we wait to discover he has nuclear weapons "the day he uses one"?
Saddam has given you nothing but "a decade of defiance"; he is a threat to U.N. authority and standing.
If Iraq wants peace, it will reveal and destroy its weapons of mass destruction, it will renounce terrorism, it will refrain from repression, it will release all Gulf War prisoners.
America will work with the U.N. Security Council on the question of Iraq. But "action will be unavoidable" if Iraq does not change. And if it does not, the regime, which has already "lost its legitimacy," will "lose its power."
Mr. Bush gave no timetable, but the very force of his words said: Act now, it will be worse if you wait. He did not refer to any possible U.N. actions, such as new demands for weapons inspections or agreements. He left the subject open, but in a way that challenged the U.N. to come up with something as strong as the speech.
And his message was clear. If the U.N. does not feel it can stand up for the very values it represents and was created to advance, the United States itself will step in to defend them for it.
This was a speech that gave the world a lot to chew on, ponder and face. It was a speech that piled fact upon fact, like a legal dossier. It is a speech that, through its very specificity, requires that those who disagree with Mr. Bush, specifically respond to the facts, and either counter them persuasively or let them stand. It is a speech that will be reprinted in newspapers throughout the world. It is a speech that with clarity and logic makes clear Mr. Bush's commitment without opening him to charges of cowboyism.
And I think it was a speech that is going to move this story forward. All the world now will have to respond to the text. We will learn much from their responses.
We have already learned something of the unity of Mr. Bush's said-to-be-fractious cabinet. Leading the applause for the president and sitting most prominently in the U.S. delegation was the secretary of state, Colin Powell, the famous dove. He didn't look unhappy. One wonders how his support of the speech was secured; one suspects it has to do with the fact that Mr. Bush gave no timetable for action, and left open the possibility of U.N. attempts to improve the situation.
Chris Matthews asked last night if Mr. Bush was "a cowboy." He is not. Every Republican president who takes stark and independent American action in the world is called a cowboy, and it's not the worst thing you could be called. Mr. Bush obviously wants and would be grateful for international support. The sentiment of nations is important. His father demonstrated this when he created the great Gulf War coalition.
But George W. Bush is by nature and habit of mind an American exceptionalist. (In this, and in being called a cowboy, he is like Ronald Reagan.) Mr. Bush believes America is different among nations, invented on the basis of what is, literally, a heavenly idea: God created all men equal, and they must therefore move through the world, through life, with equal rights. We are uniquely blessed, uniquely situated between the oceans, uniquely the natural home of those born elsewhere who yearn to be free. And so we have special responsibilities, and a special role: We lead, and for the good of the world.
Mr. Bush's leadership this past year has reflected a fully absorbed, and perhaps romantically held, commitment to this ideal. His speech to the U.N. underscored it.
Do I think he "made the case" for U.S. action against Iraq? I think he made a first and serious one but not the final one; I think his words and approach showed an appropriate respect for the opinion of mankind; I think more will, and should, follow. I think this story has not reached its crisis. Something tells me Saddam himself will continue to make the case against his regime. Something tells me that in the end, most all of us are going to give the American president the benefit of the doubts we hold, and back him. Something tells me that in the end we'll be glad we did, and so will the members of the U.N.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 01:37:55 (EDT)
My two cents are:
One day after America remembers September 11th, an alert is issued to police departments across the state about three men.
A woman overheard them talking Thursday morning at a Shoney's restaurant in Calhoun, Georgia. The woman claims the men said, "They (Americans) mourned on 9/11 and they are going to mourn again on 9/13." The men also discussed "running 5 hours behind schedule." One of the men reportedly said, "We do not have enough to bring it down." The men then left the restaurant, and headed south on I-75.
Miami-Dade County officials say they are not taking any chances.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 01:18:14 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The Ultimate banner of all socialsits
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 01:12:30 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Exactly. This is why you cut the deal with Saddam. They already want all that stuff in Iraq. They are infidels just like us! Sure, the Saudis like goodies too, but they also cut out tongues and clits. The Iraqis are okay, including Saddam on some compartive scale. Look, you got to do busines witb SOME Arab types because of the oil. Without the oil, they don't mean shit. No more than Liberia means. In fact, if we chose to do the Clintonian thing, the good thing, and go into Liberia , or Eritria, and wipe out some warlords or Milosevicianoids, fine. Clinton went after Milosevic, a guy that threatened Eur-fucking-ope! There was no oil, no Carlysle Group, no BP, no Halliburton, just doing the right thing AND getting the leader of the Free World's dick out of Ken Starr's mouth. As I recall, that war was a total success on every level.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 01:07:13 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Say, I never saw a Beverly Hillbillies episode all the way through. So, why did they move to Hollywood? Why didn't they just stay in the Ozarks and build a fancy gun shed and buy a Tundra and an Expedition?
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 01:05:49 (EDT)
My two cents are:
It's not right that the world's only superpower has to depend on a bunch of towel-heads to get oil to waste. We should grab the oil for ourselves, suck it out of the ground, and make smog with it. You liebral dimwits just don't get it. Traitors. Enemies of America. F*ck-w*ds.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 01:03:15 (EDT)
My two cents are:
It's the old ladies who do the clitorectomies. It would be like trying to break up the Traveling Pinochle Club. These cultural deals aren't amenable to control from the outside. Let them get a taste for Coke and Old Navy sweats, though, and they will forget about lopping clits. We should pursue an economic war. Make them all buy Fords. Make them watch Adam Sandler movies. They'll come around.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 00:57:08 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The ceremony becomes akin to the piercing of a girl baby's ears.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 00:53:20 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The fucker had his own son-in-law murdered. Can we let him get away with that? Just because he doesn't wear the burqua don't think he's not Arab as Osama. This guy is the original bad seed and we can't let him get away with it. And he's sitting on an ocean of crude.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 00:53:04 (EDT)
My two cents are:
You could probably work out a deal with the Hebrews. There was a period of time for instance, when the rite of circumcision was accomplished by the mere drawing of a drop of blood from the foreskin. This shows flexibility and allows the Jew to honor their own superstitions in a culturally acceptable manner.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 00:51:13 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I know. That's one reason I haven't gone to Bagdad in over 12 years. Everything's okay until you need something. The idea is to have lots of cash for the black market. The dollar goes far. That's one reason I'm thinking of vacationing there once this thing blows over, Did Saddam ever actually take hostages? Also, I'm figuring this guy must have a terror rap sheet a mile long. I'm just fuzzy on the details. Besides being mean and nasty, like so many of our own friends, what precisely did this asshole do?
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 00:47:40 (EDT)
My two cents are:
A good Aryan country would just go in and take the oil instead of sitting around jawboning about it. Hitler would have already fried half the Arabs and put the rest to work hustling the barrels.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 00:47:25 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Next, we go to war against the Sheenies for clipping foreskins?
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 00:44:42 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Clitorectomies might be one of the few rational reasons to go to war while not under attack. That and ethnic cleansing by European dictators. There are noble fightsas well as oil wars.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 00:42:55 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Well, Baghdad may be a great city, but watch out if you get the clap. Just try to find a little penicillin in that town.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 00:40:08 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Oh shit, you're right. We would be seen as untrustworty by those whose trust in us was unquestioned, as was ours them. I got carried away.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 00:39:49 (EDT)
My two cents are:
We're going to have a war about clitorectomies?
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 00:39:01 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Bagdad is a great fucking city, one of the few in the Arab world. No radical rag heads to be seen.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 00:37:57 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Suppose, for instance, the Chinese decide that we are rogues and renegades. They may no longer accept our apologies when we do something they don't like.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 00:37:40 (EDT)
My two cents are:
If we attack the Saudis, the other people sucking our ass will never trust us. Did you ever think of that?
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 00:36:44 (EDT)
My two cents are:
My point exactly. They're soft, they're crazy, the cut tongues out of liars mouths and perform rountine clitorectomies. Sure, a little of this might go on in Saddam's Iraq. Hell, a little of it goes on in Gary, Indiana. Who's funded more terrorists, Saddam or the Saudis? Where did the evildoers all come from? Hint: It wasn't Iraq. It's the oil, stupid. The key here is knowing why Saddam's oil is worth more than, say, Saudi oil, which is there for the taking. Follow the money (01)...
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 00:35:05 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Why go to Saudi Arabia? They're already in our pocket. The Saudi is Bush's butt-boy. They jump when we say frog. The USA OWNS Saudi Arabia. Besides, if we invaded Saudi Arabia, we'd have to fight our own troops. Ain't no Saudi royal inbreed going to fight and die for that godforsaken lake of oil.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 00:29:17 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Who is Pete? He seems like sort of scum-sucking bag of shit. Of course I really don't know much about him, and I'm sure he has some good points.
Lee Hannland
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 00:25:32 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I say go to the belly of the beast. Saudi Arabia first, then Kuwait. Any place where they dress funny and don't let the women show their figures. Iraq is the only one of these places I'd be willing to cut a deal with. Saddam can be bought. Buy him and take over Mecca.
end of story
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 00:24:22 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Tears wash happiness away?
doubt it
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 00:23:13 (EDT)
My two cents are:
By the way, I was born with my anus where my brain should have been. I was damned if I did and Damned if I didn't. Sooner or later we have to hit Ireland. Let's roll.
Pete�
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 00:20:45 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Sort of a terrorism three-peat?
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 00:18:08 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"Another repeat?"
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 13, 2002 at 00:17:29 (EDT)
My two cents are:
By the way, Flight 93 was actually shot out of the sky by an F-16. Let's Roll was a brave act of a doomed flight. They were damned if the did and Damned if they didn't. Let's not allow another repeat. First Saddam, then Quadaffi and preferably Iran. Sooner or later we will have to. Let's roll.
Pete�
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 23:57:01 (EDT)
My two cents are:
TRAGIC LESSON...
By MALCOLM BALFOUR --
September 12, 2002 --
SARASOTA, Fla. - At Emma E. Booker Elementary School, teacher Sandra Daniels recalled yesterday how she and her class learned of the terror attacks - when a federal agent rushed into the room to inform the president of the United States.
President Bush had been presiding over her reading class last 9/11, when a Secret Service agent interrupted the lesson and asked, "Where can we get to a television?"
"The president bolted right out of here and told me: �Take over,' " Daniels told The Post yesterday. "I knew something serious had happened, and then a short while later he came back and said, �What we thought was an airline accident turned out to be a terrorist hijack.'
"My kids were so happy that morning - imagine the president of the United States sitting there shooting the breeze, and then poof, suddenly he's gone. What do you say to a bunch of second-graders?"
Her class was watching TV in the media room when the second plane hit. Daniels almost broke down.
"I didn't want to collapse right there in front of my class, so I decided to treat the tragedy as a learning tool," she said. "I explained what a hijacking is and what a terrorist is. I told them how innocent people who went to work that morning, just like your parents, were dying because some people hated America because we're so free."
It was when one of the kids asked who was going to look after the kids whose Mommies and Daddies are dying that Daniels broke down and cried. She said that started all the kids crying, and she went around the room hugging each one.
What began as one of the happiest days of their lives ended as the saddest.
"It was like their tears washed all that happiness away," Daniels said.
Natalie Pinkney was the only student in the class who had time to ask the president a question before his hurried departure. "I asked him what his goals were for Emma Booker Elementary," she said yesterday. He told me: �We're going to be sure that each and every one of you gets a good education - that nobody is left behind.'"
http://www.nypost.com/09112002/56883.htm
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 23:26:45 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Come to think of it, Clinton never came into my living room and lied to me about anything that I actually gave a shit about. Come to think about it, we might be better of now if he had never left.
Republican but thinking about it (01)
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 23:10:08 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The only relatively honest president, since Carter, and before him Kennedy, has been President Clinton, a man who brought us out of the same old, same old, into an era of preace and prosperity. It is no accident that we are now back to the same old, same old. Republicanism simply depends on that, especially in these days of one-term Republican thieves.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 23:05:55 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Of course it's all about power, you sap. What else is there, shit-for-brains. Power. We have it and you want it. It's that fucking simple and you ought to know it. You think Snippy and Cheney don't understand this? You honestly think these two gangsters care about anything BUT power. Oil is power, you disgusting, drunken lunatic. You really think Cheney and Saddam are that different? Geesh!
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 23:01:54 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Well, Dr. Milt, I wish I had the luxury of not caring about law, order and security of the American citizenry. It is easy for liberal slobs like you to feign concern when we all know the end result is all that matters to you: Power. It may be hard to beleive but if you ever allowed yourself to psychoanalyze or understand the thinking of a normal person not of your ilk, you might be surprised at how much good will that person has for the success of all americans as provided for under the rule of law established in the US Constitution. Something your ilk seeks to undermine daily.
Pete�
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 22:50:46 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Another demonrat loser from the failed prior regime of lawlessness seeks to bend the rules again. Typical. Face it, you lost. Get over it. The trigger says no. Watch ehr try to bend the rules. again. These people are absurd!! "Reno campaign challenging vote tallies in Florida
Thu Sep 12, 9:22 PM ET
By KEN THOMAS, Associated Press Writer
MIAMI - Political newcomer Bill McBride claimed the Democratic nomination for governor Thursday after unofficial returns showed him finishing 8,196 votes ahead of Janet Reno in Florida's bungled primary. Reno refused to concede, saying she had too many questions about balloting in two big counties where she had expected to do well.
The former attorney general refused to rule out a possible court challenge to determine who will take on Republican Gov. Jeb Bush this fall.
Reno spoke after the state canvassing board said McBride's narrow margin of victory exceeded half a percentage point, the trigger for an automatic machine recount. More than 1.3 million votes were cast.
According to the state, the Tampa lawyer had 601,008 votes, or 44.5 percent, to Reno's 592,812 votes, or 43.9 percent.
The results will be officially certified next week.
Reno, who fell 1,445 votes short of triggering the recount, said she would not ask for a new election. But campaign attorney Alan Greer said Reno had not decided whether to seek a recount or go to court to challenge the results.
Greer and Reno campaign manager Mo Elleithee specifically questioned Miami-Dade County's ballot count in 81 precincts, saying thousands of votes could have been affected on Reno's home turf. They also said there could be problems in nearby Broward County.
Elleithee said the campaign has received hundreds of affidavits from voters alleging problems, and has e-mailed supporters statewide asking for more examples.
"We are not here to start World War III in the legal sense," Greer said.
But Robin Rorapaugh, McBride's campaign manager, said a court challenge by Reno could cost Democrats and be "horribly divisive" in the campaign against Bush.
David Niven, a Florida Atlantic University political science professor, agreed. "If Reno challenges this, it will be the ultimate act of political selfishness because it will be a dramatic help to Jeb Bush," he said.
Gov. Bush, the president's brother, blamed the latest problems on Democratic election chiefs.
"It's a black eye for Miami-Dade County and Broward County," Bush said. "More resources, more training, more equipment, more state dollars, two years to do this, and it appears there were flaws in the implementation. Sixty-five counties got it right."
Democratic leaders said McBride stood a better chance of defeating Bush in November. They feared Reno would lose Florida's Cuban community, an influential voting bloc, because she oversaw the federal raid that took Elian Gonzalez from his Miami relatives two years ago. The boy was sent back to Cuba with his father.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 22:47:21 (EDT)
My two cents are:
A World Policy Institute (WPI) review of major Bush appointees published in May found that 32 major policy makers had significant financial ties to the arms industry prior to joining the administration, as compared with 21 appointees with ties to the energy industry. As an example, they discussed links with Lockheed Martin, the largest US defence contractor, with Pentagon contracts worth a total of nearly $30 billion in 2000 and 2001 alone. The WPI writes:
"In all, eight current policymakers had direct or indirect ties to the firm before joining the administration. Officials with indirect connections to the company include Vice President Dick Cheney... and Deputy National Security Advisor Stephen Hadley, who worked at Shea and Gardner, the powerhouse DC law firm that represents Lockheed Martin (along with numerous other corporate clients). Bush appointees with more direct links to the firm include Assistant Secretary of State for Latin American Affairs Otto Reich, who worked as a paid lobbyist for Lockheed Martin when the company was seeking a reversal of the U.S. ban on the sale of high tech weapons to Latin America; and Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta and Deputy Transportation Secretary Michael Jackson, both of whom served as Vice Presidents at Lockheed Martin prior to joining the administration." ('About Face: The Role of the Arms Lobby In the Bush Administration's Radical Reversal of Two Decades of U.S. Nuclear Policy,' A World Policy Institute Special Report by William D. Hartung, with Jonathan Reingold, May 2002 www.worldpolicy.org/projects/arms/reports/reportaboutface.html)
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 22:45:09 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I'm amused that Pete thinks Tony Blair brings legitimacy to Bush's rant and that it has nothing to do with British Petroleum's 40% stake in the Iraqi oil fields.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 22:27:22 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I'm amused that Pete pretends to think this is about Saddam's barbarianism and his huge threat to the world and not simply about oil.
Dr. Milton T. Eisentower, PhD.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 22:22:59 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Some interesting faux Pete� postings. Doinkerz. (01) Pete� - Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 22:19:23 (EDT)
My two cents are:
This ought to put E into orbit. Where "she" belongs. Notice how it resembles a broom stick, which I ptresume is her main sense of satisfaction ...
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 21:43:32 (EDT)
My two cents are:
See, gnat, you should stop hugging your gentle jeffery cones and listen. By the way, that isn't another term for a Sears Exciteur vulvo-uterin device is it? Talk about the ultimate dirty stinky bomb ... hhmmmmmm ....
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 21:41:10 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Darn, wish I had listened. Then I would have known for certain the liberals were at blamed for a no show.
gnat
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 20:57:36 (EDT)
My two cents are:
This article written last week in The Guardian, sheds new light on the Bush Doctrine. Richard Perle is scary and dangerous in my opinion.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/elsewhere/journalist/story/0,7792,785394,00.html
Mary
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 20:35:55 (EDT)
My two cents are:
So if we don't hyphenate "reactive" why does a goober like Pete hyphenate "proactive"? He's always had a problem with language, this guy, hasn't he???
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 20:33:48 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Stocks Slide on Speeches by Bush and Greenspan
By REUTERS
Filed at 4:46 p.m. ET
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Stocks slumped on Thursday as investor sentiment crumbled under the weight of U.S. saber-rattling on Iraq, Federal Reserve chief Alan Greenspan's warning on the ballooning government deficit and data showing a weak economy.
won't Rubin ever wear off?
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 20:06:27 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Pete's as welcome as a turd-fly?
doubt it
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 19:59:43 (EDT)
My two cents are:
http://www.democrats.com/view.cfm?id=9170
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 19:55:49 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Pete is a funny guy, Lee, and as real as you or me. He's at his funniest when he can't conceal his lust for anonymous people on the internet who might be women. Then his smooth pick-up lines come out and nobody can keep a straight face, not even Glint. Sure, he's a few marbles short of a full pi�ata, but not every bun comes out of the oven crisp to the center. The world has tolerated him, just the same as it tolerates the mosquito and the turd-fly.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 19:55:40 (EDT)
My two cents are:
This fellow Pete is a put-on, right? A straw guy? Nobody could be that much of a moron, right?
Lee Hannland
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 19:51:00 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Gnat is guilty. She said that Cheney didn't show up on Rush Limbaugh, as reported on the AP wire. Enough evidence for me. Prooves she tunes in to Rush Limbaugh. If she keeps this up, we're going to have all the evidence we need to jap her for intending to dirty-bomb Washington DC. This "evidence" game with the Waco phone book is all a paralegal could want.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 19:49:47 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Never try to hug the prickly ponderosa pine cones. Stick to the gentle jeffrey cones.
gnat
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 17:57:49 (EDT)
My two cents are:
gnat tunes into rush limbaugh!
BWAAAHAHAHAAHAHA!HOHOHEEEHEEE!
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 17:55:10 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Cliton was asleep at the switch. End of story.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 17:53:23 (EDT)
My two cents are:
So, in other words, Saddam has all the benefits of nuclear weapons without having to make the nuclear weapons? He's got us on the verge of totally bankrupting ourselves and making everyone sitting on oil reserves mad at us and throwing their countries into revolution and anarchy so we can't get any oil for Pete's golf cart? We had better hurry up and jap him.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 17:52:03 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Poor Rush. The V.P was a no-show on his radio talk show. Must have been Clinton's fault. According to motormouth everything else is.
gnat
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 17:52:00 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Nukes are worthwhile only if you don't use them. They are for scaring the shit out of people. Look at Saddam Hussein: he doesn't even have any nukes but the thought that he could have some if he was an industrial giant already has Pete scared shitless.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 17:48:20 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Nah, the key word is ability to act without fear of retribution. Union Carbide could afford to kill those people because the cost was supportable. Saddam would get spanked if he nukes Washington, if he could nuke Washington. That's why we've got to spank him, so we can't spank him and scare him away from nuking Washington. It would be perfectly clear if you didn't spend all day hugging pine cones.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 17:45:43 (EDT)
My two cents are:
It's tough being the world's only superpower when everyone can wipe us out. Why didn't we get to the table before everyone started playing for big stakes, and there were no more small skirmishes? Geesh, now we have to be pro-active and nasty, like a nation of Ann Coulters. Do you want to live with guys like Jose Padilla sneaking ideas about making dirty bombs into the country? Do you want to live with calico cats in the pantry?
doubt it
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 17:42:51 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Appears the key word is intent. 3,000 were killed in India due to negligence on the part of Union Carbide. Those deaths are inconsequential due to lack of intent. Didn't happen here, so who cares.
gnat
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 17:37:52 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Saddam Hussein has oil? You'd think Cheney would have mentioned it to the Veterans of Foreign Wars.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 17:37:04 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Don't forget those killed in Kuwait. This guy is Idi Amin with oil.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 17:35:33 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I don't understand why Saddam gassing the Kurd North isn't proof that he intends to gas Washington. What part of gassing the Kurd North don't you understand, United Nations?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 17:34:34 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Oh, I get it. The proof is that he gassed millions in the Kurd north? And what do we care if he does it to London, anyway? Limeys are all snots and liberals.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 17:33:15 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Pete is sort of a goober, isn't he?
Lee Hannland
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 17:30:43 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Gee, how many did he already gas in the Kurd north, in teh war with Iran, in his own country, nto to mention those killed in Kuwait. Your defense of the indefensible identifies you as a liar pod person liberal. The enemy of America. Radioactive nuclear warhead material. Something, I'd calla dirty bomb and would love to see Slim Pickens ride down over Baghdad before he does it to Washington or London. Get used to it, it is all big stakes now. No more little skirmishes. Everyone can wipe us all out now. Unless we are pro-active and nasty. Do you want to live or whine?
Pete�
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 17:30:05 (EDT)
My two cents are:
As usual, anonymous got it 180 degrees wrong. It's the Carlyle Group that owns Baghdad. The Carlyle Group also owns Dick Cheney. Try to get these things straight.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 17:27:20 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Hey, if Dick Cheney waves the Waco phone book at Tony Blair, we should all be patriotic enough to believe what he says. After all, this is a guy who OWNS a 15% share of Baghdad.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 17:25:43 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I didn't notice that about Mary. Thought she was pasting in a story about how he got everything BUT the high-test uranium from Halliburton. As usual, Pete has it 180 degrees wrong. Now, Petey-poot, as a qualified paralegal don't you agree that there is more evidence that Union Carbide killed a bunch of people in India than there is evidence that Saddam Hussein is "bent of gassing and nuking millions?" What's that? You say no? He is definitely bent of nuking them? The evidence is that Dick Cheney said so while waving the Waco phone book at Tony Blair?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 17:22:55 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Oops, make that "codez." Doink.
Pete�
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 17:19:24 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Did someone get into the Doink codes? (01)
Pete�
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 17:18:18 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Curtis W. Roelle is funny?
doubt it
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 17:16:57 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The W. stands for Whoop-ass.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 17:16:12 (EDT)
My two cents are:
No, no. That Milky Way think is just Curtis W. Roelle being funny.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 17:15:38 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Shut up and eat your pretzel.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 17:14:27 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Where can I find a doctor who gives injections to cure having had too much to drink?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 17:14:02 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I must have missed something. The Milky Way is universal semen?
gnat
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 17:12:58 (EDT)
My two cents are:
What does any of that have to do with health?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 17:12:51 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Nick's been taken for a ride, scammed.
Mary
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 17:11:56 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I love Nick Nolclit. Looks like he's from the era of Marilyn Moanroe.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 17:10:36 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Because of his history of heavy drinking and cigarette smoking, Nick knows that he has lost a valuable part of his health. In order to regain it back, he is living on organic food, injections and vitamin and mineral supplements that are being given to him by a doctor. His regime is designed just for him and it costs thousands of dollars a month for him to do this. To date, he has the reflexes of a forty-five year old and has increased some brain function that he had lost. While Mr. Nolte has given up alcohol, he still struggles with completely giving up cigarette smoking.
yeah right
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 17:09:25 (EDT)
My two cents are:
No, that was Barbara Moanstand.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 17:09:07 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Wasn't he in a movie with Kim Moaninger?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 17:08:18 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Spurts jism in his movies, although it's just an act.
bad enough when Cliton did it
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 17:07:39 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Didn't know they piled it that high.
liberal scum-bag actors
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 17:06:52 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Notice how Mary shifts her demonization of everything from, gee whiz how do we even know he has any to: gee whiz everyone helped him get it. Sort of like gnat's "thinking" that just because there are murderous villains like Saddam bent of gassing and nuking millions, we must compare that somehow to pollution in Bhopal. These sort of idiots will get us all killed. Stop your treason, grow a brain. Where is ann coulter when we need to put these whiny babies to bed and do the real work of defending and protecting our freedoms. Get a clue you dimwits. Before it is too late.
Pete�
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 17:06:19 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Nolte stands one waistline and a thigh.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 17:06:16 (EDT)
My two cents are:
How many of Pete's biceps is that? And what fraction of a waistline?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 17:05:40 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The lying bassart is 6 foot and 1/2 inch.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 17:04:58 (EDT)
My two cents are:
We get to decide? Aren't we the lucky ones. Hey, Glit, is there a way to erase post "threads?"
House of Meat
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 17:03:57 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Might as well quit for an imaginary reason as well as an imaginary act, Petey-poot.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 17:02:35 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"...The six-foot, one-inch Nebraska-born Nolte began his career on the stage and first shot to fame on the hit 1970s television mini-series "Rich Man, Poor Man," which earned him an Emmy nomination..."
NOW they mention his Nebraska connection - Figures!
typical liberal press - Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 16:59:14 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Who erased the post threads? If you want me to quit for good, I will if posts are erased. You decide.
Pete�
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 16:56:43 (EDT)
My two cents are:
What did the perp do? Break Hollywood's fashion laws?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 16:56:01 (EDT)
My two cents are:
This looks like a recent self-portrait. I love Nick Nolte!!!
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 16:52:49 (EDT)
My two cents are:
So you've heard it already, then?
Dr. J
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 16:46:18 (EDT)
My two cents are:
You mean that crazy dude, lives out on Burton Drive on the old Mound Lot? Nah, he couldn't be the one. Must be a different guy. Try Kurt Rouxelle.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 16:44:05 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Your theory on the Milky Way wouldn't have anything to do with cum or jism, would it?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 16:42:00 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Is there really an astronomer here? If so, perhaps he/she would like to entertain a lecture on my Milky Way theory.
Dr. J
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 16:36:11 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Who?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 16:26:38 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Dr. J never disappoints. Not a well person. Who could it really be? One thing I know-- it couldn't be Curtis Roelle. The mover and shaker of an astronomy club would never try to write parody song lyrics about semen. Does that astronomy club have an e-mail address, or is it just Mr. Roelle's?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 16:11:23 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Dr. J
Has anybody here seen my wad of jism?
Can you tell me where it's gone?
I thought I left it layin'
In the back of Hill,
Now I just looked in there and it's gone.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 16:05:47 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Somehow the energy crisis disappeared when Jeffords changed parties. Prices went back to normal. Enron was no longer forced to sell at ten times free-market prices.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 16:02:38 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Of course there was an energy crisis! Shee-it, Enron was forced to sell natural gas for ten times what it had been only a few days before!
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 16:00:43 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Here is Cheney, pounding his tight little fist on the podium and scowling hard and looking like a sad cross between the Pillsbury Doughboy and a mortician, trying not to get too agitated lest the defibrillator kick in, urging war war war now now now and never you mind how Iraq hasn't had weapons-grade plutonium to make nukes in well over a decade, thanks to ongoing UN intervention. This does not matter.
And never you mind how, even if Saddam has developed ugly biological weapons, and even if he were utterly foolish enough to want to aim them at the U.S., his paltry and utterly decimated military doesn't have a single rusty fighter jet or decent missile or otherwise remotely capable delivery method in its entire depleted force to effectively deploy such chemicals any further than a religious zealot can spit.
go mark go
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 15:59:53 (EDT)
My two cents are:
There was an energy crisis? Geesh, somebody must have been sleeping at the switch.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 15:59:39 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Glint used to worry a lot about Iraq when Cliton was running the show. He just had to take care of the jism question first, and make sure the cigar suit was pressed in case it was needed. He worried a lot, in private. Another thing he worried about was Cliton sleeping at the energy switch. He just never mentioned it until Cheney told everyone there was an energy crisis. Made it all the worse.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 15:58:44 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Too late, anonymous. I think Pete picked up the jacks and went home.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 15:56:07 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Hey, Pete, could you explain again what anthrax does to the skin and how nerve gas melts bodies? A lot of us have never seen that happen and would like to hear about your experiences with these phenomena.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 15:55:22 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Hey, Glint, why doesn't Saddam just buy some airliners full of jet fuel. Or are nukes just as effective?
Pete�
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 15:47:47 (EDT)
My two cents are:
An intelligent black man once said that capitalism wouldn't work if Halliburton wasn't allowed to bend the rules a little bit and sell howitzer tubes to Iraq. It's all based on encouraging guys to make money. Not every guy, you understand. Ex-Secretaries of Defence qualify, but not ever rube in the street.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 15:46:31 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The suppliers? Halliburton, mostly. Also Union Carbide. Outfits that intend to make products for the good of people who occasionally screw up and pollute. By mistake. No American company would break the rules on purpose.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 15:43:24 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The bottom line is that we're all in the UN as separate states? Geesh, what a surprise! Why can't we all be in as the same state? Guess they'd have to change the name from United Nations to Globular Nations or something, though. Now that it's a question of our oil... er, survival, we'll have to cut those beggars loose and go it alone.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 15:41:04 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Kind of hard to keep a secret with all those countries involved.
Mary
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 15:40:21 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"tells how he did it in secret with the cynical help of U.S., French, German, and British suppliers and experts, and kept it hidden from U.N. inspectors after the Gulf War"
Who are these suppliers from United States and Britain?
mary
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 15:37:01 (EDT)
My two cents are:
It sort of takes the fun out of a sneak attack, though.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 15:33:30 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I'm proud to be an American now that we're not afraid to talk loudly and carry a big stick. Throwing your weight around is neat. All those bastards that joined the UN to get the free money from Fort Knox had better be trembling in their curly-tipped pointy shoes.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 15:32:56 (EDT)
My two cents are:
What I need to know is, where is Tony Blair's purple face? Geesh, that guy can't seem to keep his face purple for more then fifteen minutes or so. Pete can keep his purple for a whole lifetime.
Glint
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 15:31:01 (EDT)
My two cents are:
He thought he had permission, but he forgot that oil was involved. NOBODY fucks with the American oil that happens to be under Araby. Not even Bush family friend Saddam Hussein.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 15:29:46 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The reason the Israelis don't worry about Saddam is that Saddam doesn't worry about the Israelis. He's not a fundamentalist, not even a devout Muslim, and Israel don't confront him. When he wants to invade somebody, and has been pampered by a Bush administration and told by its ambassador that we won't squawk if he invades somebody, and has just been visited and stroked by Bob Dole, then he'll pick a weak country. Kuwait, maybe.
.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 15:28:14 (EDT)
My two cents are:
That was before Dr. Hamza struggled across the desert to warn us.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 15:25:04 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Funny that Pete never worried about Iraq when Cliton was running the show.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 15:24:17 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I pity that poor guy who struggled across the desert to tell the world that Saddam Hussein has nuclear ambitions.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 15:20:59 (EDT)
My two cents are:
You guys are just upset because you're losing your flimsy grip on power. What bothers me is not the pointy heads, but all those countries standing in line for handouts from the USA. Excuse me, I have to go clutch my wallet.
Yepe�
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 15:19:05 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"Don't tell me about the law. The law is anything I write on a scrap of paper."
��Saddam Hussein
Cliton's protege
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 15:08:35 (EDT)
My two cents are:
You two twits ignore everything except what you want to ehar and what makes you feel good. Sorry, survival doesn't always feel good: "The Iraqi scientist who designed Baghdad's nuclear bomb tells how he did it in secret with the cynical help of U.S., French, German, and British suppliers and experts, and kept it hidden from U.N. inspectors after the Gulf War. Today, he says, Saddam Hussein is only months away from making a workable bomb and has every intention of using it.
In 1994, after twenty years developing Iraq's atomic weapon, Dr. Khidhir Hamza made a daring escape to warn the CIA of Saddam's nuclear ambitions. After a harrowing journey across three continents with Iraqi agents on his trail, Hamza finally came in from the cold at the U.S. embassy in Hungary. Now he tells a frightening story that U.S. officials have finally come to believe: that Saddam is still feverishly at work on the bomb and, if pushed to the wall, will use it.
Dr. Hamza, a former resident of the presidential palace, is the only defector who has lived to write a firsthand, intimate portrait of the Iraqi inner circle, its spies and hit men, and their brutal chief.
Saddam's Bombmaker is also a saga of one man's journey through the circles of hell. Educated at MIT and Florida State University, dedicated to a life of peaceful teaching in America, Dr. Hamza relates how the regime ordered him home, seduced him into a pampered life as an atomic energy official, and forced him to design a bomb. The price of refusal was torture.
As the father of the Iraqi bomb, Dr. Hamza designed a device from scratch with the help of World War Two�era blueprints from America's Los Alamos labs, all the while planning an escape. Privately, he and his colleagues believed they could procrastinate long enough to outlive Saddam. But the dictator outmaneuvered them, whipping the scientists into a crash program to build a crude bomb that could be dropped on Israel. Had U.S. and Allied forces not quickly mobilized for Desert Storm, Dr. Hamza relates, Saddam may well have succeeded; except for sufficient uranium, the device was ready. It still is.
The defector once responsible for Iraq's clandestine nuclear weapons program reveals for the first time what the CIA and Iraq desperately want to keep hidden -- that Saddam Hussein is devastatingly close to manufacturing nuclear weapons and has every intention of using them.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 15:07:56 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The Iraqi scientist who designed Baghdad's nuclear bomb tells how he did it in secret with the cynical help of U.S., French, German, and British suppliers and experts, and kept it hidden from U.N. inspectors after the Gulf War. Today, he says, Saddam Hussein is only months away from making a workable bomb and has every intention of using it.
In 1994, after twenty years developing Iraq's atomic weapon, Dr. Khidhir Hamza made a daring escape to warn the CIA of Saddam's nuclear ambitions. After a harrowing journey across three continents with Iraqi agents on his trail, Hamza finally came in from the cold at the U.S. embassy in Hungary. Now he tells a frightening story that U.S. officials have finally come to believe: that Saddam is still feverishly at work on the bomb and, if pushed to the wall, will use it.
Dr. Hamza, a former resident of the presidential palace, is the only defector who has lived to write a firsthand, intimate portrait of the Iraqi inner circle, its spies and hit men, and their brutal chief.
Saddam's Bombmaker is also a saga of one man's journey through the circles of hell. Educated at MIT and Florida State University, dedicated to a life of peaceful teaching in America, Dr. Hamza relates how the regime ordered him home, seduced him into a pampered life as an atomic energy official, and forced him to design a bomb. The price of refusal was torture.
As the father of the Iraqi bomb, Dr. Hamza designed a device from scratch with the help of World War Two�era blueprints from America's Los Alamos labs, all the while planning an escape. Privately, he and his colleagues believed they could procrastinate long enough to outlive Saddam. But the dictator outmaneuvered them, whipping the scientists into a crash program to build a crude bomb that could be dropped on Israel. Had U.S. and Allied forces not quickly mobilized for Desert Storm, Dr. Hamza relates, Saddam may well have succeeded; except for sufficient uranium, the device was ready. It still is.
The defector once responsible for Iraq's clandestine nuclear weapons program reveals for the first time what the CIA and Iraq desperately want to keep hidden -- that Saddam Hussein is devastatingly close to manufacturing nuclear weapons and has every intention of using them.
"Don't tell me about the law. The law is anything I write on a scrap of paper."
��Saddam Hussein
Mary's (gnat's too) "brain" is still asleep at the switch. Research could help, but that detracts from her pulling daisies and hugging firs.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 15:06:27 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Forget it, Mary. The warrior evidently thinks the only thing pointed is our heads.
gnat
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 15:01:52 (EDT)
My two cents are:
What is the point? Spell it out.
Mary
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 14:59:52 (EDT)
My two cents are:
An impeccable warrior with 17" biceps should be able to grab a gun and ROLL!
gnat
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 14:57:12 (EDT)
My two cents are:
gnat can never distinguish between those who intend to murder millions of people with actual weapons and those who intend to make products for the good of people who occassionally screw up and pollute. Big difference. But always lost on an agenda driven demonizing liberal. Just proves how stupid they really are. Of course, they all think they are Norman Einstein. Doink.
Pete�
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 14:53:11 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Of course, Mary will still either miss the point or dishonestly dodge to keep her flimsy grip on power. An ego is a terrible thing to waste.
Anonymous.
Click here for story: Only a few former demonrats like Nebraska's Kerrey have the balls to speak the truth - Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 14:50:31 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Speaking of chemical weapons of mass destruction. Where is Union Carbide when we need them - with their leaky pipes and corroded valves. If they could be the cause of 3,000 deaths in India just think what they could accomplish in Iraq. How big is our nuclear, chemical, biological arsenal? Not that we would ever use a nuclear weapon capable of mass destruction. History proves that.
gnat
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 14:48:00 (EDT)
My two cents are:
My first thought was bin laden too. I didn't think accident at all. Bush thought it was an accident.
Mary
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 14:47:40 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Clinton insisted he didn�t think about himself at all: �I didn�t think that at all. I didn�t think either one, actually, at the moment. What I thought was that bin Laden was responsible, immediately, and I thought of all the things that would have to be done. Then I thought about, I tried to get hold of my wife because I knew she�d be in the Senate, and I did. And I wondered about our daughter, and Hillary spared me, because I was so far away, the knowledge that Chelsea was in lower Manhattan at the time and was one of the throng basically running back up the island. But I mostly thought about what it meant and what needed to be done. I didn�t really think about me one way or the other.�
That contradicts what those around him have told reporters.
still a liar
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 14:44:06 (EDT)
My two cents are:
14:30 knows very little about the "politics" of playing the UN. Every country does it. No one is "really" part of the UN, but everyone tries to pay lip service to it. Get a clue. The UN is the front piece for countries to pretend they are friendly. The bottom line is we are all in it as separate states. There is no World Government like you and the socialsits desire. Rightfully, Bush says, we will pursue the right course, with or without the UN. The UN is a group of self-interested countries. None of whom wants to put their neck on the line for for the US. They just want to get free handouts and aid from the uS. It is safer for them to play neutral or agaisnt it so they do not invite the enmity that the US is unfortunatley now having to shoulder in order to ensure world order and stability. Just like all socialists. We play the game for world order and the rule of law, but when that gets set aside ( like all socialist idiots in the Cliton defense), then the US has to do the right thing. We will go after Saddam, with or without the game players. We tried to play their game. Now, it is our survival. End of story.
Pete�
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 14:36:57 (EDT)
My two cents are:
What happened to the purple faced outrage that Tony Blair was supposed to be expressing over being "suckered" by Cheney? Was it just wishful thinking on someone's part?
no doubt
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 14:34:19 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Eighteen medics dead since dirty missile exploded over hospital Highest death toll of any British regiment serving in the Gulf War
THE deaths of 18 Gulf War medics from a Scots volunteer unit can be linked to Iraq's nuclear dirty bombs, the Sunday Mail can reveal.
The casualty rate is more than double that of any other British unit dispatched.
The latest victim from the Territorial Army's 205 General Hospital is hospital porter Donald Macdonald, from Glasgow, who served with the TA for 20 years.
He died of bowel cancer two weeks ago in Glasgow's Western Infirmary.
Ministry of Defence figures confirm the deaths of 10 people who served with 205 - but evidence gathered from the veterans reveal at least another eight of their colleagues have died, most before their mid-40s.
The veterans association figures show the average death rate across the major units is eight, but 205 have lost at least 18.
Iraqi missiles were fired at 205's base in Saudi Arabia during the 1991 conflict. Last week, the Sunday Mail revealed that it is feared the Scuds were laced with heavy metal used in nuclear weapons.
Gulf War veterans have been struck down by a range of ailments, including cancer, asthma and mental problems. Some blame the "Gulf War Syndrome" on a series of vaccinations for anthrax, the plague and whooping cough.
But veterans of 205 now fear their grim toll is linked to a "dirty bomb" fired at the hospital.
Sunday Mail UK
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 14:31:13 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Pete, not defending Hussein here. Just questioning the United States commitment to the United Nations. We can't have it both ways.We are either a part of the United Nations or we are not. Yet, I am always hearing from conservatives how much they hate the United Nations and want the United States out of it.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 14:30:18 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Ritter said this week:
"Of the four categories, nuclear is the one that was most thoroughly eradicated; two aspects of the program, weaponization and enrichment. Enrichment is 100 percent eradicated. We destroyed the facilities. We destroyed the means of production. And of all the aspects of weapons of mass destruction, this is the one that's most difficult to reconstitute. It would require a major reacquisition of technology, almost all of which is controlled technology, very difficult to obtain even under the most favorable of circumstances, especially not easy when you have economic sanctions and the entire world's collective intelligence apparatus looking at you. And then you'd have to rebuild the facilities, which again is eminently detectable, not something that's done underground or in a basement or in a cave. And again, void of any data or facts that show Iraq has done this, don't need to worry about enrichment.
"Which means if Iraq is to have a weapon, they need to acquire the fissile material, the highly enriched uranium or plutonium, from an outside source. And contrary to popular belief, there just is not a viable market out there for highly enriched uranium. It's not on the market. There isn't sellers out there. It's not something that's readily available. Iraq does have a weapons design. They have solved the problem of designing and building a device and I believe it's possible for Iraq to construct this device in Iraq today using indigenous capabilities. But that device minus highly enriched uranium or plutonium is just a very expensive high-explosive bomb. It's not a nuclear weapon. So again, I'm not too worried about Iraq's nuclear program." (National Public Radio (NPR) Show: Talk of the Nation, NPR August 28, 2002. Headline: 'Threat that Iraq poses to the United States')
Ritter added:
"I'll tell you this, if we can substantiate that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction capacity, we would not be standing alone. We would be able to get Security Council acquiescence on military action and we would be able to build a viable coalition with, you know, depth throughout the international community to confront Saddam Hussein.
"So that's why, again, I'm puzzled by the fact that if we have a case against Saddam, why aren't we making it? Why are we committing diplomatic suicide by standing alone in this fashion, having the entire world desert us if, in fact, this is, you know, the threat that we say it is?
"The Israeli chief of staff came out just yesterday and said he's not losing any sleep over Iraq. And, you know, this is Israel we're talking about, the nation that would bear the brunt of any Iraqi weapon of mass destruction. And Israeli intelligence doesn't see that Iraq is a threat along the level that Dick Cheney and others in the Bush administration have said. So what's going on here?" (Ibid)
mary
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 14:26:55 (EDT)
My two cents are:
No Mary, you totally miss the point. As usual. Tony Blair there is pointing out that Saddam has already undermined about 100 UN resolutions by ignoring them. There is NO UN resolution preventing us from ENFORCING the UN resolutions. Stupid is really no way to bumble through life. Think once or twice before you bleed liberal. It really is embarrassing. Doink.
Pete�
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 14:26:46 (EDT)
My two cents are:
More nonsense from the Demonrats heroes: "It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities
in our air and water that are doing it."
-- Al Gore, Vice President //// "If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure."
-- Bill Clinton, President //// "We are ready for an unforeseen event that may or may not occur."
-- Al Gore, VP
//// Doink. - Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 14:24:27 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"no more undermining of the U.N.'s authority" If this applies to U.S. then we cannot move unilaterally.
mary
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 14:22:42 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"The word "genius" isn't applicable in football. A genius is a guy like
Norman Einstein,"
-- Joe Theisman, NFL football quarterback & sports analyst.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 14:21:33 (EDT)
My two cents are:
September 09, 2002
Iraq Needs Fissile Material for Nukes
By BARRY RENFREW
ASSOCIATED PRESS
LONDON- Iraq could assemble a nuclear weapon within months if it could obtain radioactive material, and it is working to develop equipment to make bomb components, a leading think tank warned Monday.
"War sanctions and inspections have reversed and retarded but not eliminated Iraq's nuclear, biological and chemical weapons and long-range missile capabilities," said the report by the International Institute for Strategic Studies, a leading independent center for strategic analysis.
"There is a nuclear wildcard. If, somehow, Iraq were able to acquire sufficient nuclear material from foreign sources, it could probably produce nuclear weapons on short order, probably in a matter of months," the report said.
The report echoes similar warnings from various government and private analysts and did not appear to contain much new information.
John Chipman, author of the study on Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction program, said the Iraqi leader is trying to build nuclear weapons. He said that the Iraqis are developing machines to make nuclear material for weapons, but would need assistance and material from foreign sources to build a nuclear bomb soon.
"However, were he able to obtain fissile material from abroad, steal it or buy it in some way, we certainly believe he has the ability to put together a nuclear weapon very quickly, in a matter of months," Chipman told British Broadcasting Corp. radio.
Iraq has a small force of missiles capable of delivering a nuclear weapon despite international efforts to destroy such weapons, Chipman said. The report estimates Iraq has up to 12 missiles with a range of about 400 miles.
"Certainly we believe he has retained a small force of 650-kilometer range ballistic missiles. Those could hit Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Israel, Iran, Turkey," said Chipman.
"I think it would take a little bit of time once he had got his fissile material and put together the physics package, so to speak, to be able to arm a warhead on a ballistic missile," Chipman said.
"So until that time, he would have to deliver them from a plane or through some other terrorist (route)."
Iraq has also probably managed to hide some chemical and biological weapons which pose a limited threat, Chipman's report concludes. Production of such weapons could be resumed within weeks or months at existing civilian facilities, it said.
"The magnitude of Iraq's biological weapons threat depends on its delivery capability, which appears limited," the report said.
It said Iraq's chemical weapons capability "does not appear to pose a decisive threat against opposing military forces who would be protected against CW attack."
It said chemical weapons could disrupt logistical operations and threaten unprotected civilians "but are unlikely to cause mass casualties."
Iraq is trying to build gas centrifuge machines that could produce weapons grade nuclear material, but is still far from success, Chipman said.
"We certainly confirm that it would be difficult for him in the absence of substantial foreign assistance or the lifting of sanctions soon to be able to develop his own fissile material," he said.
The United States has been calling for action to stop Iraq's efforts to build weapons of mass destruction, saying Baghdad poses a threat to U.S. and international interests.
Britain has pledged strong support for Washington, but most of America's allies are hesitant, urging President Bush to work through the United Nations for a political solution. Terry Taylor, director of the IISS office in Washington, said Iraq was a threat to the world.
"I have no doubt that Saddam Hussein's regime has nuclear, biological and chemical weapons programs and missile programs which they are advancing and are a threat to the region and a threat to the world," he told GMTV television program.
"That has to be dealt with properly."
mary
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 14:19:15 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The Globe
How Canada failed the Saddam test
By JOHN IBBITSON
Thursday, September 12, 2002
Today, with the latest poignant commemoration of That Day
behind us, George W. Bush will offer to the United Nations
his full and final case for overthrowing Iraqi leader
Saddam Hussein, and the reluctant nations will start to
come around.
Canada will also probably start to come around. But in
light of yesterday's acts of remembrance -- our vows, our
prayers, our declarations of solidarity -- we must confront
this truth: When it counted, the United States, Britain and
Australia decided to act to preserve and protect an
emerging new rule of international law. Canada did not.
The President's pitch to the General Assembly is expected
to go something like this: Saddam Hussein possesses
biological and chemical weapons capable of causing huge
loss of civilian life. He has used these weapons in the
past. New evidence confirms the regime could be mere months
away from acquiring a nuclear device.
Mr. Bush may also provide new evidence connecting Iraq to
Islamic terrorism.
He is then likely to present a variation of a recent French
proposal, in which the UN demands that Baghdad allow
immediate, unconditional and unfettered access to weapons
inspectors, with a fixed deadline for compliance and with
the use of force authorized if the regime fails to comply.
Why this sudden offer from France? Because President
Jacques Chirac, having failed to convince the Bush
administration not to meddle in Iraq, fears being
marginalized in a region that France considers
strategically vital.
With the French finally onside, Russia will probably
abstain at the Security Council, rather than risk American
wrath. China will not exercise its veto on a
subject outside its immediate sphere of interest.
Under these circumstances, Canada will drop its
reservations and join the new UN-sanctioned coalition. The
only price we will have paid is that we will be placed in
the column of those who finally came around, rather than
those who were there when it counted.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 14:18:20 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Still doesn't answer the questions, Pete.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 14:15:17 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"We apologize for the error in last week's paper in which we stated
that Mr. Arnold Dogbody was a defective in the police force. We meant,
of course, that Mr. Dogbody is a detective in the police farce."
-- Correction Notice in the Ely Standard, a British newspaper
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 14:15:08 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"However, it is important for Americans and American families to understand this: that the best way to affect supply is to reduce demand for drugs; that we can work as hard as we possibly want on interdiction, but so long as there is the demand for drug in this country, some crook is going to figure out how to get them here. And so a central focus of this strategy is to reduce demand; is to convince our children that the use of drugs is destructive in their lives. And that starts with good parenting. It is essential that our parents understand that they're the child's most important teacher, and that the message of our parents must be unequivocable: don't use drugs." George W Bush
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 14:10:52 (EDT)
My two cents are:
ALBANY, New York (AP) -- On the first anniversary of the terrorist attacks, a date known as 9-11, the evening numbers drawn in the New York Lottery were 9-1-1.
"The numbers were picked in the standard random fashion using all the same protocols," said lottery spokeswoman Carolyn Hapeman. "It's just the way the numbers came up."
Lottery officials won't know until Thursday morning how many people played those numbers or the total payout, she said.
For the evening numbers game, the New York Lottery selects from balls numbered zero to nine circulating in a machine at the lottery office. Three levers are pressed, and three balls are randomly brought up into tubes and then displayed.
signs
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 14:06:09 (EDT)
My two cents are:
You can take Chretien out of France but you can't take the French out of Chretien. With this type of leadership Canada should be a muslim terrorist country in about 10 years.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 13:59:31 (EDT)
My two cents are:
In 1991, Security Council Resolution 688 demanded that the Iraqi regime cease at once the repression of its own people, including the systematic repression of minorities - which, the Council said, "threaten(ed) international peace and security in the region."
This demand goes ignored. Last year, the U.N. Commission on Human rights found that Iraq continues to commit "extremely grave violations" of human rights and that the regime's repression is "all pervasive." Tens of thousands of political opponents and ordinary citizens have been subjected to arbitrary arrest and imprisonment, summary execution, and torture by beating, burning, electric shock, starvation, mutilation, and rape. Wives are tortured in front of their husbands; children in the presence of their parents - all of these horrors concealed from the world by the apparatus of a totalitarian state.
In 1991, the U.N. Security Council, through Resolutions 686 and 687, demanded that Iraq return all prisoners from Kuwait and other lands. Iraq's regime agreed. It broke its promise. Last year the Secretary-General's high-level coordinator of this issue reported that Kuwaiti, Saudi, Indian, Syrian, Lebanese, Iranian, Egyptian, Bahraini, and Omani nationals remain unaccounted for - more than 600 people. One American pilot is among them.
In 1991, the U.N. Security Council, through Resolution 687, demanded the Iraq renounce all involvement with terrorism, and permit no terrorist organizations to operate in Iraq. Iraq's regime agreed. It broke its promise. In violation of Security Council Resolution 1373, Iraq continues to shelter and support terrorist organization that direct violence against Iran, Israel, and Western governments. Iraqi dissidents abroad are targeted for murder. In 1993, Iraq attempted to assassinate the Emir of Kuwait and a former American President. Iraq's government openly praised the attacks of September 11th. And al-Qaida terrorists escaped from Afghanistan are known to be in Iraq.
In 1991, the Iraqi regime agreed to destroy and stop developing all weapons of mass destruction and long-range missiles, and to prove to the world it has done so by complying with rigorous inspections. Iraq has broken every aspect of this fundamental pledge.
From 1991 to 1995, the Iraqi regime said it had no biological weapons. After a senior official in its weapons program defected and exposed this lie, the regime admitted to producing tens of thousands of liters of anthrax and other deadly biological agents for use with Scud warheads, aerial bombs, and aircraft spray tanks. U.N. inspectors believe Iraq has produced two to four times the amount of biological agents it declared, and has failed to account for more than three metric tons of material that could be used to produce biological weapons. Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities that were used for the production of biological weapons.
United Nations inspections also reveal that Iraq likely maintains stockpiles of VX, mustard, and other chemical agents, and that the regime is rebuilding and expanding facilities capable of producing chemical weapons.
And in 1995 - after four years of deception - Iraq finally admitted it had a crash nuclear weapons program prior to the Gulf War. We know now, were it not for that war, the regime in Iraq would likely have possessed a nuclear weapon no later than 1993.
Today, Iraq continues to withhold important information about its unclear program - weapons design, procurement logs, experiment data, an accounting of nuclear materials, and documentation of foreign assistance. Iraq employs capable nuclear scientists and technicians. It retains physical infrastructure needed to build a nuclear weapon. Iraq has made several attempts to buy high-strength aluminum tubes used to enrich uranium for a nuclear weapon. Should Iraq acquire fissile material, it would be able to build a nuclear weapon within a year. And Iraq's state-controlled media has reported numerous meetings between Saddam Hussein and his nuclear scientists, leaving little doubt about his continued appetite for these weapons.
Iraq also possesses a force of Scud-type missiles with ranges beyond the 150 kilometers permitted by the U.N. Work at testing and production facilities shows that Iraq is building more long-range missiles that could inflict mass death throughout the region.
In 1990, after Iraq's invasion of Kuwait, the world imposed economic sanctions on Iraq. Those sanctions were maintained after the war to compel the regime's compliance with Security Council resolutions. In time, Iraq was allowed to use oil revenues to buy food. Saddam Hussein has subverted this program, working around the sanctions to buy missile technology and military materials. He blames the suffering of Iraq's people on the United Nations, even as he uses his oil wealth to build lavish palaces for himself, and arms his country. By refusing to comply with his own agreements, he bears full guilt for the hunger and misery of innocent Iraqi citizens.
In 1991, Iraq promised U.N. inspectors immediate and unrestricted access to verify Iraq's commitment to rid itself of weapons of mass destruction and long-range missiles. Iraq broke this promise, spending seven years deceiving, evading and harassing U.N. inspectors before ceasing cooperation entirely. Just months after the 1991 cease-fire, the Security Council twice renewed its demand that the Iraqi regime cooperate fully with inspectors, "condemning" Iraq's "serious violations" of its obligations. The Security Council again renewed that demand in 1994 and twice more in 1996, "deploring" Iraq's "clear violations" of its obligations. The Security Council renewed its demand three more times in 1997, citing "flagrant violations" and three more times in 1998, calling Iraq's behavior "totally unacceptable." And in 1999, the demand was renewed yet again.
As we meet today, it has been almost four years since the last U.N. inspectors set foot in Iraq - four years for the Iraqi regime to plan and build and test behind a cloak of secrecy.
We know that Saddam Hussein pursued weapons of mass murder even when inspectors were in the country. Are we to assume that he stopped when they left? The history, the logic and the facts lead to one conclusion. Saddam Hussein's regime is a grave and gathering danger. To suggest otherwise is to hope against the evidence. To assume this regime's good faith is to bet the lives of millions and the peace of the world in a reckless gamble. And this is a risk we must not take.
an answer sampling to another of Mary's stupid stupid questions
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 13:58:25 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The United States has no quarrel with the Iraqi people, who have suffered for too long in silent captivity. Liberty for the Iraqi people is a great moral cause and a great strategic goal. The people of Iraq deserve it and the security of all nations requires it. Free societies do not intimidate through cruelty and conquest and open societies do not threaten the world with mass murder. The United States supports political and economic liberty in a unified Iraq.
We can harbor no illusions. Saddam Hussein attacked Iran in 1980, and Kuwait in 1990. He has fired ballistic missiles at Iran, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and Israel. His regime once ordered the killing of every person between the ages of 15 and 70 in certain Kurdish villages in Northern Iraq. He has gassed many Iranians and 40 Iraqi villages.
My nation will work with the U.N. Security Council on a new resolution to meet our common challenge. If Iraq's regime defies us again, the world must move deliberately and decisively to hold Iraq to account. The purposes of the United States should not be doubted. The Security Council resolutions will be enforced - the just demands of peace and security will be met - or action will be unavoidable. And a regime that has lost its legitimacy will also lose its power.
Events can turn in one of two ways.
If we fail to act in the face of danger, the people of Iraq will continue to live in brutal submission. The regime will have new power to bully, dominate and conquer its neighbors, condemning the Middle East to more years of bloodshed and fear. The region will remain unstable, with little hope of freedom and isolated from the progress of our times. With every step the Iraqi regime takes toward gaining and deploying the most terrible weapons, our own options to confront that regime will narrow. And if an emboldened regime were to supply these weapons to terrorist allies, then the attacks of September 11th would be a prelude to far greater horrors.
If we meet our responsibilities, if we overcome this danger, we can arrive at a very different future. The people of Iraq can shake off their captivity. They can one day join a democratic Afghanistan and a democratic Palestine, inspiring reforms throughout the Muslim world. These nations can show by their example that honest government, and respect for women, and the great Islamic tradition of learning can triumph in the Middle East and beyond. And we will show that the promise of the United Nations can be fulfilled in our time.
Neither of these outcomes is certain. Both have been set before us. We must choose between a world of fear and a world of progress. We cannot stand by and do nothing while dangers gather. We must stand up for our security, and for the permanent rights and hopes of mankind. By heritage and by choice, the United States of America will make that stand. Delegates to the United Nations, you have the power to make that stand as well.
Thank you.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 13:55:19 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Are we nuking everyone else who has nukes? Seems only fair. Oh, and nuking everyone else, like Saddam, who wants to make nukes. Nuke 'em. Nuke 'em silly. I'm the pres, after all. Well, not really. Daddy's boys made me the Pres, so all you sillies have to do what I say. So there. I have a new cheer! Cheney won't let me do it, though. He's a party-pooper. I better just go choke on a pretzel.
How stupid IS too stupid?
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 13:54:27 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Jeb Bush stole some city votes from his Republican primary oppenent?
say it isn't so, simplemind
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 13:52:22 (EDT)
My two cents are:
True, Saddam has been working on the A-bomb for years. What's new? The switch sitters are awake, Mary.
Glint
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 13:49:57 (EDT)
My two cents are:
It's easy to be a crappy parent AND a crappy governor.
Jeb!
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 13:41:16 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Did Jebbie count any of those naughty city Democrat votes? Or did he just "lose" them, like last time? Has Jebbie taken his crackhead daughter out to the woodshed for a coupla good Florida welts and bruises? Remember, Jebbie--it's God's will!
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 13:39:52 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"We don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud."
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 13:21:44 (EDT)
My two cents are:
No evidence against Hussein, that hasn't existed all along. Hussein had all of this before, he isn't a present threat without the high-grade uranium. What are his chances of getting that, honestly?
Mary
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 13:16:21 (EDT)
My two cents are:
doubt it.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 13:08:56 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"no more undermining of the U.N.'s authority," Does that apply to the United States?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 13:03:58 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"Obeying a Taliban edict, many marijuana cultivators in Afghanistan stopped growing their crops when the hardline Islamic militia was in power. Now some of those farmers are back in business. They're so open about it that fields of sturdy marijuana plants, some nearly seven feet tall, line part of the main road leading west from Mazar-e-Sharif, the biggest city in northern Afghanistan. Resin from the plant, also known as cannabis, is concentrated to make hashish."
War on Terrorism is already paying dividends
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 13:01:25 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"Janet "I did it for the children" Reno can go back to practicing Eskimo rolls in her kayak now. McBride has beaten her by 8,000 votes. No matter if some ballots might be funky, it is a clear win and hopefully the political life is over for one of the weirdest characters of the entire Clinton administration."
right-on message posted somewhere on the web today
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 12:59:18 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Shame On You America (The Daily Mirror UK) *click* - Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 12:54:08 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"Let it be clear that there can be no more conditions, no more games, no more prevaricating, no more undermining of the U.N.'s authority," Blair told the annual meeting of the Trade Union Congress in the northwest English resort of Blackpool.
but i thought blair was was angry, furious, "DEEPLY EMBARRASSED" even -- what gives?
oh that's right - it was the lying Dimwits who were saying so, figures! - Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 12:46:03 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Sounds like the lion lurks within you, anonymous.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 10:47:58 (EDT)
My two cents are:
What we have to do is kill a fifth of the world's population. If that doesn't work, we kill another fifth. The only thing I haven't decided is whether we should kill each fifth based on the initial population, or we take successive fifths of the remaining population. Cheney will probably be able to figure it out.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 10:47:20 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Great Coulter column today. Claims the Arabs aren't nice. Says they killed 3,000 of our guys and we killed only one of their guys, and he wasn't a real Arab, just a Sikh. It's all in the Koran and the Bible. Christians would never do anything nasty. Not since the Inquisition, anyway. All that burn 'em at the stake stuff was an abberation. Evidently there are a bunch of Arab kids going to school in New York who refuse to dis the Evil One. It's all pretty bad. Might require killing their leaders and forcibly converting them all the Christianity.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 10:44:28 (EDT)
My two cents are:
If Pete didn't exist, he'd well up out of the low spots in the floor like yesterday's vomit.
Glint
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 10:40:12 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Great autopete, though. Authentic, really.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 09:31:36 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Great autopete, though. Authentic, really.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 09:31:34 (EDT)
My two cents are:
No, an impeccable warrior would not.
Tamerlane
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 09:24:34 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Now I ask you, would an impeccable warrior use such words as zeep, doinzer, blurp?
gnat
- Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 00:07:25 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I don't get it. The supposedly inauthentic post by Pete� had the magic word Doink, didn't it? What liberal liar is saying it was not Pete? And my packet sniffer says all of today's Glint posts are genuine. They all came in through port 110. What more proof do you want?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 23:22:25 (EDT)
My two cents are:
If Pete is a pathetic bag of shit, how can he be so poetical? We have two antithetical facts here. We have a conundrum here. A high-class poetic guy who is also a bag of shit. It doesn't stand the test of reasonableness. Which is true? I've seen a lot of shit but no poetry. Is that a clue?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 23:19:35 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Sorry, good try though Doink. The last posts by Glint and Pete do not pass the (01) test. Rejectz.
Pete�
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 23:18:15 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Me. I guessed it right from the start.
[email protected]
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 23:14:21 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Pete's a pathetic bag of shit? Who would have guessed?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 23:13:19 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I have enough african lion in me to know when survival's instincts require an outlet. If survival's insticts didn't have an outlet, then everyone else's instincts would take over. We want to accentuate survival's instincts here, not the other ones. Not the instincts of not surviving, that's for sure. Geesh, those instincts don't require an outlet. Let's use our outlets for survival's instincts. Am I being perfectly clear here? Sit down and we'll suck your juices to the scribes. Or something. Zeep. Doinzer! Blurp!
Pete�
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 22:56:37 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Ferocious lion. Bring on the net, forget the little mouse.
gnat
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 22:54:44 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Hey, easy on the liberal tactics, there.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 22:50:54 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Hey, Pete. A-winga-wok? Yo, big lion. Big blood of the lion. What a pathetic bag of shit you are, Pete.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 22:50:16 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Yepe knows poetry. Yep.
Pete�
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 21:27:12 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Twinkle twinkle little jism! How I wonder what you ism! Twinkle twinkle little spoodge. Way above the blue dress you splattered. Twinkle twinkle little jism!
contributed by Doctor J.
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 21:06:33 (EDT)
My two cents are:
This 9/11 thing would be a lot more impressive if we had more bagpipe bands. Where are all the bagpipe bands? Where are the guys on horses with fancy harness? Where are the balloons? How about some football? What the fuck is this?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 21:04:18 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Sure, Pete is a witless moron. But isn't there something happier to discuss on this day of commemoration. How America has changed! Even the peanut butter is different. Or, it's pretty much the same, but it tastes different since that first 9/11. We've all been shot. And a bandy-legged dude has risen to to task of spouting meaningless platitudes. Hoo boy, are we going to take it to that Saddam Hussein. I'm going to go camping on my piece of Iraq, once we own it. Got my eye on a new three-season sleeping bag. Maybe an Arab girl will walk up and tell me she's got cold places all over her body but that I'm hot. Life will once again mean something.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 21:01:26 (EDT)
My two cents are:
New Topic: French Doors! You're talking to a man with French doors in two, count 'em, two (2) freeholds. Also, I stand behind gnat on the tree issue. Woodsman, spare that tree! I'd give half a dozen 9/11's for one Arbor Day. This country won't be whole again until there is a tree on damn near every corner. Pump some oxygen back into Gaia's wimpy atmosphere. And it's not just trees. I want to see a flourishing understory-- dogwoods, kit-kit-dizze, maybe a little Ceanothus cuneatus, a multiplicity of forbs and grasses, algal slime on the ground, mushrooms, centipedes, nematodes, the whole shitaree. It would give me closure to know what an ignorant haole would presume to know his ass from forest management. Why is there a brain-dead yahoo in this world who presumes to spout off about any topic he happens to know nothing about? The only answer I can come up with is that it's the lion in him. The lord of the veldt, the Ollie North of the animal kingdom, stalking the Greater Kudu and imagining how happy her various mounds of delight must make her husband, the Even Greater Kudu. What a moron. What a pitiful, witless anus. Pete, that is.
.
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 20:57:02 (EDT)
My two cents are:
This fucking celebration isn't giving me any closure. How the hell do you get closure in this man's war?
Get Some�
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 20:49:32 (EDT)
My two cents are:
It's a flopperoo, I tell you. What's with this Tom Ridge bullshit? Couldn't they book Wayne Newton? The best part was the minute of silence, and the kids in Tampa reciting the "under God" section of the pledge of alliegance. Sure, they don't know what a "pledge" is, or what "alliegance" is, but they sure as Hell know what God it. A big guy in sandals with a white beard and robe, hurling thunderbolts at the infidel and at kids who piss in the crib.
.
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 20:47:21 (EDT)
My two cents are:
It just doesn't seem like a celebration without Ol' Blue Eyes to cut a hole in the tent with his pocket knife so we can see better.
.
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 20:44:30 (EDT)
My two cents are:
What happened to the big celebration, anyway? This 9/11 Part Deux looks like a great big flop to me. Where's Carrot Top? Where's Gallagher? Where's Donnie Osmond? This whole party sucks.
.
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 20:43:18 (EDT)
My two cents are:
See, they've got the oil. We've got the pretty good highways and the drive-thru windows. The way I have it doped out, if we don't hit them first, they're going to come over here and take out drive-thru windows. Then where will we be? I'll tell you where we'll be. We'll be hoofing it. Or riding the train like a bunch of Afghan tribesmen. Do you want that? I have much of the lion in me, the African lion, Mary. You, on the other hand, are a mere blissed-out weenie. The lion in me tells the weenie in you, bite it. Leave splicing cables to the fighters. The mighty sons of the lion. A winga-wok a winga-wok a winga-wok! Beware my claws of steel and my teeth of adamantine. The lion walks tonight. Geesh. Poof! Snaggle! (01) Foopers.
Yepe�
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 20:40:24 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Preemptive strike means to jap them. Jap them for $1.40 gasoline. That's what the jap-in-the-street gets. Cheney gets the big money, maybe three hundred million dollars this time. I don't understand what he wants it for. Maybe for his daughter to get a sex-change operation, or is she the wife?
.
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 20:34:00 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Pre-emptive strike..to hit your enemy before they hit you? What is a pre-emptive strike, was Pearl Harbor a pre-emptive strike from Japan?
Mary
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 20:17:36 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Poetry means you can still get rush with a good bush.
(oh)
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 16:27:25 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Motormouth Bush?? Thought it was motormouth Rush. Little George can't always start the motor that runs his mouth without a major flub.
gnat
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 16:16:55 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Ahhh, the poetry ...
another poetic moment brought to you by sPete
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 16:04:16 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Motormouth bush? Sounds porno to me. Potty mouth
Irish Spring
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 16:03:31 (EDT)
My two cents are:
True Mary. As I mentioned yesterday, probably a liebral media setup plant. Never trust a demonrat. Doink.
Pete�
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 16:00:29 (EDT)
My two cents are:
True Mary. As I mentioned yesterday, probably a liebral media setup plant. Never trust a demonrat. Doink.
Pete�
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 16:00:09 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Noelle was found with cocaine in her shoe. It doesn't mean she put it there.
Mary
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 13:32:34 (EDT)
My two cents are:
We are still in mourning. And we are angry. And we don't know where our anger should go. But the events and the information from outside sources have given us a pretty good idea. The problem is, it hurts us as a people. It hurts to think that we've been lied to. And we are frustrated that so many others are willing to accept blindly anything they are told. And it hurts to think that the majority of Americans are still, to this day, not being heard from.
I can hear the career Clinton Haters now. Majority? What about all the polls that show that the majority of Americans still think Bush Inc. was sent from Heaven? I have three words for that argument.
Screw the polls.
We've all spent time voting on these ridiculous things. You can go on and on and vote as many times as you want. They're as accurate as a nearsighted sniper. We all know that the shallow end of the gene pool known as "Freepers" have nothing better to do than to suck down a cheap six-pack and hit the "Bush is Best" button on these polls. We all know that the Zogby gang has taken to picking and choosing registered participants due to too many people voting Bush as a repulsive excuse for a leader. And worse yet, now they want to charge folks to get the results of the polls they voted in.
But that's not what's important.
What is important is what has happened, in such a short time, to the basic principles which this country has stood for over two centuries.
I have to wonder how those who tragically perished almost a year ago would feel about how their deaths were being used by those without shame. How would they feel about Bush Jr's "Trifecta" joke? How would they feel about John Ashcroft arresting and holding people indefinitely without charge or access to a lawyer in their name? How would they feel if they knew Bush Jr. just sat there in an elementary classroom for around 25 crucial minutes between the first and second strike of the WTC - and did nothing!!
freepers: the shallow end of the gene pool
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 13:32:23 (EDT)
My two cents are:
They said Cheney will be spending the day in an undisclosed secure location. Thought he was supposed to be at the EIB(?) workplace with motormouth Rush.
gnat
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 12:41:02 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Florida Department of Children and Families
Jerry Regier, Secretary
1317 Winewood Blvd.
Building 1, Room 202
Tallahassee, Florida
32399-0700
Dear Jeb,
You know, I was sitting here thinking how mean some Democrats are being about Noelle's latest arrest when it came to me. The child needs a good Godly beating.
Jeb, I say this as a friend. You need to go out back behind the outhouse, cut you a stout hickory switch, and whip that girl until she's covered with welts and bruises.
That'd cure her right quick.
I know we see eye to eye here, you said as much by standing by me when the liberals attacked. So enough of this secular/new age rehab. We need to put our righteous principles to work, praise Jesus. Let the purveyors of religious bigotry in the press say what they will.
Yours in Christ,
Jer
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 12:35:02 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Hey MWO,
Can't say I was terribly shocked by the news that Jeb!'s daughter was arrested for smoking crack. That whole family is dysfunctional, and you guys are some of the only ones with the cajones to say it in public. Anyhow, thought you might get a laugh out of a few of Jeb!'s public stances on these very issues:
On issues related to the family, Jeb! believes:
Encourage fathers' participation in child-raising. (Sep 2001)
Federal funds & state involvement in fatherhood initiatives. (Aug 2001)
Jeb! Families and Children
That responsible father figure stuff was a bit too little, too late for his own kids I guess.
On values, Jeb! believes:
Focus on virtue & character, not values. (Nov 1995)
Pass moral judgement & teach virtue to our children. (Nov 1995)
Jeb! Principles and Values
Well that worked--his kids certainly got his and his wife's values.
And on drugs, Jeb! believes we should have:
Mandatory prison sentences for drug offenses. (Nov 2001)
Jeb! Drugs
Oops, better forget about that one.
But we shouldn't let Noelle hog all the publicity. Let's harken back to other highlights of the Jeb! Bush clan, like when son George was arrested for punching out his ex-girlfriend's father then tearing up their yard with his truck.
Or that Jeb!'s wife was arrested just a couple years ago, trying to smuggle some $90,000 worth of jewelry into the country from Europe, without declaring it.
Jeb! Bringing family values to a state near you.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 12:34:13 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Walked down four flights? What planet are you from? How can anyone be so stupid? What a maroon.
W's Wag the Dawg Warmongering
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 11:40:04 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I mean our VP - company. Not OUR VP - Cheney. Just wanted to be more specific.(01) - Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 11:37:33 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The terrorists won this latest round. But the V.P. is currently at the Pentagon at the ceremony with Dubya. So there's still hope. (01) - Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 11:34:39 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The terrorists won the latest round. Bomb threat, building and parking lot evacutated. Dogs have been called in. Similar to the one that happend last September 14. Guess the corporate security office got it right with the yellow alert. Am now working from an undisclosed secret location. (01) - Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 11:27:44 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Old Jeb, when not preoccupied with his crack-smoking kid, must be hard pressed to get rid of enough of Reno's votes. Had to work all night, poor guy.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 11:26:48 (EDT)
My two cents are:
CHENEY TO DEFILE 9/11
VEEP TRASHES DAY OF PATRIOTIC UNITY
WITH LIMBAUGH APPEARANCE
IS NOTHING SACRED, EVEN TO OUR MARTYRED DEAD?
NOT TO DICK CHENEY - NOT WHEN THE POLLS ARE BAD
NOT JUST BAD TASTE - IT'S A MORAL DISGRACE
WHERE ARE THE MEDIA?
Vice President Cheney has shocked the nation's capital, and all decent Americans, with the announcement that he will spend September 11, 2002 appearing as a guest on the divisive, partisan, hate-spewing Rush Limbaugh radio broadcast.
On the first anniversary of the terrorist atrocities -- a day for national unity, patriotism, and somber reflection -- Cheney will chew the fat, before a national audience, with the man whose very name has become synonymous with nasty ultra-right-wing partisanship -- decidedly a divider, not a uniter.
Under any circumstances, for a sitting Vice-President of the United States to show up at a venue like Limbaugh's -- a self-designated indoctrination center for right-wing politics -- would be a disgrace to the office.
But to do so on 9/11 shows a kind of moral idiocy that is truly shocking, even in the calculating and reactionary Dick Cheney.
Molly Ivins, in a recent column, pointed out the absurdity of Cheney's new-found hatred and his condemnations of the evil-doer Saddam Hussein -- a murderous dictator with whom Cheney, as head of Halliburton, was happy, even eager, to do business.
But in measuring disgraceful divisiveness and nastiness -- a direct slap in the face of all Americans whom Rush Limbaugh regularly smears, which is more than half the country -- Cheney's 9/11 disgrace takes the cake.
Democratic Committee Chairman Terry McAullife put it well on Tuesday, September 10:
Tomorrow, Americans will stand together as we observe the first anniversary of the tragic terrorist attacks on our country. It should be a day of unity in honor of the memory of the thousands of Americans we lost just a year ago. It should be a day free from partisanship and divisiveness.
Unfortunately, Vice President Cheney has chosen to do an interview on September 11th with one of the most partisan and divisive figures in American politics, Rush Limbaugh.
September 11th isn't a day for politics, it belongs to all Americans. Vice President Cheney cheapens the day when he appears with an irresponsible and divisive figure like Rush Limbaugh. All Americans have the right to expect more from Vice President Cheney on this sacred day. I urge him to reconsider this misguided interview.
At last report, no such reconsideration by Cheney was in the works.
The nearly three thousand Americans murdered a year ago weren't all ditto-heads, though Limbaugh seems to think so, and Cheney, with his appearance, seems to agree. They were Democrats and Republicans and Independents and who knows what else; they were white and black and Asian and Hispanic and Hindu; they were Catholics and Protestants and Jews and Muslims and Buddhists and agnostics and atheists; they were Americans but they were also visitors and businessmen and workers from abroad; they were gay and straight; they were Limbaugh's "femi-Nazis" as well as 1950's traditionalists; they were the disabled and not disabled; they were right and left, and everything in between.
And some of them were children.
How dare Dick Cheney, the second-highest elected official in the nation, so dishonor the death of untold numbers of Americans of the sort Rush Limbaugh ritualistically ridicules and smears and lies about? They were good Americans too, Mr. Vice President -- except Rush Limbaugh is unable to comprehend that. Are you unable too. Mr. Cheney?
How dare Dick Cheney cheapen even one moment of what ought to be a day beyond politics -- a sacred patriotic day -- and appear on a show that embodies the most extreme type of politics?
Why is Cheney doing this? There are two main theories. One is that he has planned all along to turn 9/11 into a politicized circus, much as Dick Morris predicted the Republicans would. The other is that, after seeing Bush's polling numbers plummet, and seeing support for his unilateral war-now policy turn mushy at best, Cheney is showing up on Limbaugh's show in order to shore up and rouse the right-wing ditto-head voting base. And what better day to do it than September 11.
We've known for a long time that all this Administration cares about is its political standing. Imagine if Bill Clinton or Al Gore had gone on some left-wing radio station on the anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing? (Instead, as we know, Clinton and Gore rejected politics, and Clinton delivered an eloquent unifying, patriotic speech.) Can you imagine how the media would have reacted to such a baldfaced political gambit?
Well, let's see how they handle Dick Cheney's national disgrace.
There is no one to email over this. But it is worth reminding your friends and neighbors in the days and weeks to come -- once you have paid your respects to the murdered, and to the flag and nation for whom they died -- how Dick Cheney defiled 9/11.
Cheney Defiles 9/11
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 11:25:28 (EDT)
My two cents are:
MIAMI -- In a primary marred by fresh problems at Florida's polls, political novice Bill McBride led former Attorney General Janet Reno in Tuesday's Democratic race to challenge Republican Gov. Jeb Bush this fall.
With 60 percent of precincts reporting, McBride had 406,309 votes, or 50 percent, while Reno had 316,187 votes, or 38 percent. Several large counties in south Florida - where Reno was expected to run well - had not reported their results.
todays great news. is hillary next?
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 00:57:16 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Methinks gnat smokes. Really smokes.
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 00:39:49 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Maybe the mountain man is on board. Wanted to ask if there's an over abundance of meat bees or whatever they're called in his part of the mountains. Little critters seem to think I'm a bit tasty.
gnat
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 00:35:39 (EDT)
My two cents are:
O.k. it ain't so. Unless it's salmon.
gnat
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 00:29:41 (EDT)
My two cents are:
gnat smokes?
say it aint so??
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 00:17:24 (EDT)
My two cents are:
In a liberal world, yes. For a few weeks, then the winter of discontent sets in and everyone starts to eat each other. Figure it all out.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 00:16:33 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Thought maybe it was game of chance. Spin the wheel of life to see who gets helped and who doesn't.
gnat
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 00:09:06 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Moral: Never name your kid after yourself.
gnat
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 00:07:43 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Is someone second guessing me here? Must be a liberal. Yup.
GOD
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 00:05:57 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Well, Darwin's gnat, perhaps if the zookeeper had tied a bungee cord to the elephant it too would have just lost a paw.
talk about an idiot
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 00:04:47 (EDT)
My two cents are:
In a delicious serving of poetic justice, RJ Reynolds, the founder of RJ Reynolds Tobacco Co., his son, RJ Reynolds II, and HIS son, RJ Reynolds III, all perished from lung cancer.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at 00:03:42 (EDT)
My two cents are:
God watches out for an idiot who in a drunken stupor jumps off a bridge as opposed to just watching while a animal caretaker suffocates under elephant poop?
gnat
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 23:56:50 (EDT)
My two cents are:
(30 May 2001, Hillsboro, Oregon) Ismael drove his truck into a mailbox. It bounced off and collided with an electric power pole, flipping the Toyota onto its side and knocking down the power lines. Ismael climbed from the truck to survey the situation -- then pulled out a pair of pruning shears.
He reached up and clipped the cable lying across his truck -- and was electrocuted when the shears severed the 7500-volt cable, which poked his rib cage, allowing the current to travel across his heart and out his left foot.
Ismael was found lying motionless on the power line, with a pair of pruning shears in his hands. His dazed passenger survived to be arrested on an unrelated warrant.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 23:55:24 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Excuse me? How stupid are you? How does it feel to have 105 stories implode on your head? What four flights? A pile of frickin' dust. Brain dead asshole. You must be some Al Qaeda mole. Go back to sleep.
Captain America
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 23:49:52 (EDT)
apparently not too stupid if they lived
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 23:53:07 (EDT)
My two cents are:
(11 October 1998, Australia) A sexual romp at a popular Darwin beach ended in the death of a 25-year-old woman, who drowned while performing oral sex on a man, the Northern Territory's Supreme Court heard. The woman had sexual intercourse with Christopher Sean Payne, 34, in "a number of positions" in the water off Pee Wee Camp beach, before she voluntarily submerged to perform fellatio on him.
Prosecutor Michael Carey told the court that while the woman was performing oral sex, Christopher "became excited and put his hands on her head and kept her down there." The prosecutor said Payne told police that he noticed something was amiss when the woman stopped performing fellatio. He wondered what was going on, so he let her up.
"He says that she did not try to get up, she wasn't kicking or splashing, and that he really didn't do anything except let her up as soon as she stopped sucking on his penis," Prosecutor Carey told the court. He said that when Christopher realized the woman was dead, he "freaked out," dressed, and drove away.
Christopher, who has been in prison since two days after the drowning on October 11 last year, pleaded guilty to committing a dangerous act on October 11, 1999. His counsel, Suzan Cox, told Justice Sir William Kearney that her client still had "recurring nightmares" about the drowning. "He keeps seeing it while he tries to sleep at night," Ms. Cox reported. She said a psychiatrist found that Christopher had a deep sense of shame about the incident. He had required treatment for nervous outbreaks of boils twelve times in the past year.
Ms Cox said that before Payne and the woman went into the sea, they had drunk 11 750-ml bottles of beer, and an autopsy found that the woman had a blood alcohol reading of .287 - almost six times the legal Australian driving limit. "She might have just passed out under the water. That might explain why she didn't struggle," Ms Cox told the court.
She said that although Payne had an alcohol problem, he was considered a quiet, shy, good-natured and considerate person by his employers and friends. Ms Cox said the unusual nature of the case meant there was no need for Justice Kearney to consider imposing a harsh penalty on him to deter others.
Justice Kearney sentenced Christopher to 4.5 years on Monday. "It's an unusual case that needed careful deliberation," Justice Kearney said.
Crocodile Drunkee
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 23:52:31 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Excuse me? How stupid are you? How does it feel to have 105 stories implode on your head? What four flights? A pile of frickin' dust. Brain dead asshole. You must be some Al Qaeda mole. Go back to sleep.
Captain America
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 23:49:52 (EDT)
My two cents are:
http://www.darwinawards.com/
ok
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 23:40:38 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Tell us Captain how that evokes natural selection?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 23:39:19 (EDT)
My two cents are:
It's only a Darwin award if their stupidity prevents them from reproducing.
Captain Mendel
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 23:33:15 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Yeah, some feat to walk 4 flights.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 23:32:45 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Very moving tales of people in floors 4 and 5 of WTC as the tower collapsed around them and they managed somehow to survive against all odds.
4 or 5
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 23:30:31 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Paul Stiller, 47, was hospitalized in Andover Township, NJ, and his wife Bonnie was also injured, when a quarter-stick of dynamite blew up in their car. While driving around at 2 a.m., the bored couple lit the dynamite and tried to toss it out the window to see what would happen, but apparently failed to notice the window was closed.
Darwin Award 3rd Place
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 23:27:56 (EDT)
My two cents are:
TACOMA, WA - Kerry Bingham, had been drinking with several friends when one of them said they knew a person who had bungee-jumped from the Tacoma Narrows Bridge in the middle of traffic. The conversation grew more heated and at least ten men trooped along the walkway of the bridge at 4:30 am. Upon arrival at the midpoint of the bridge they discovered that no one had brought a bungee rope. Bingham, who had continued drinking, volunteered and pointed out that a coil of lineman's cable lay nearby. One end of the cable was secured around Bingham's leg and the other end was tied to the bridge His fall lasted 40 feet before the cable tightened and tore his foot off at the ankle. He miraculously survived
his fall into the icy river water and was rescued by two nearby fishermen.
"All I can say," said Bingham, "is that God was watching out for me on that night. There's just no other explanation for it." Bingham's foot was never located.
Darwin Award 2nd Place
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 23:27:19 (EDT)
My two cents are:
PADERBORN, GERMANY - Overzealous zookeeper Friedrich Riesfeldt fed his constipated elephant, Stefan, 22 doses of animal laxative and more than a bushel of berries, figs, and prunes before the plugged up pachyderm finally let fly and suffocated the keeper under 200 pounds of poop! Investigators say ill-fated Friedrich, 46, was attempting to give the ailing elephant an olive oil enema when the relieved beast unloaded on him. "The sheer force of the elephant's unexpected defecation knocked Mr. Riesfeldt to the ground, where he struck his head on a rock and lay unconscious as the elephant continued to evacuate his bowels on top of him," said flabbergasted Paderborn police detective Erik Dern. "With no one there to help him, he lay under all that dung for at least an hour before a watchman came along, and during that time he suffocated. It seems to be just one of those freak accidents that happen."
Darwin Award Winner
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 23:26:04 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Hey gnat. welcome back.
borg 4 or 5 of 22
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 23:24:27 (EDT)
My two cents are:
JEB JOLTED BY FANATIC'S FIBBING
New Shockers On Fla Child Care Appointee
Little Brother Turns Rancidly Demagogic
Jeb: Press Is "Anti-Christian"
Under considerable pressure, the Jeb Bush Administration in Florida has grudgingly released a cache of articles and papers relating to Jeb's handpicked chief of child services, Jerry Regier. Bush also released e-mails concerning Regier's appointment to replace Bush's scandal-plagued previous choice to head Florida's child services agency.
The fresh materials confirm that Regier, contrary to his earlier fudging, is a hard-line reactionary on family issues.
Among the ideas that Regier's writings support:
-- wives should submit to thier husbands;
-- providing publicly-funded health care to children is an wasteful abomination;
-- "Aggressive and competitive women, unconcerned with motherhood, produce more ruthless men -- and a society so competitive that it disintegrates."
The e-mails also prove Governor Jeb a liar. He has flatly denied reports that he and his Administration were negotiating with Regier to come aboard even before Regier's predecessor had been fired. But the e-mails include numerous details of precisely such negotiations.
Confronted with these revelations, Bush turned nasty and demagogic, telling reporters, "I am no longer amazed at the anti-Christian feelings in the press."
How dare Jeb pull such inflammatory, chicken-bone crap?
Since when is objecting to child beating, spouse abuse, and all the rest of it "anti-Christian"?
Just because some evangelical sectarian extremists like Regier endorse these regressive views doesn't mean most Christians do.
Governor Bush's mother once made plain her support for women's reproductive rights, something that the Bush family, back before it was politically inconvenient, also supported.
Is she "anti-Christian," too, Jeb?
She should wash your mouth out with soap for saying such crude stuff.
But maybe she wouldn't. After all, the Bush Crime Family men are renowned for playing dirty at election time -- from the Willie Horton ad in 1988 to the Florida gang thuggery in 2000.
Still, so far as we know, no Bush has played lying, deceptive politics in a way that directly puts the lives and well-being of innocent children at risk.
Until Jeb.
Email a Letter to the Editor of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel to express your disgust at Jeb Bush's appointment of Jerry Regier, and at Bush's false statements about Regier and the manner in which he was appointed. Also express your disgust at Bush's demagogic attack on the press as "anti-Christian" for opposing Bush-sanctioned child-beating and spouse abuse.
Source:
Sun-Sentinel, More Regier `values' articles released
Dirty Little Bush Family Values = Wife Beating, Kid beating
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 23:23:43 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Must be Clinton's fault that Big George didn't finish off Saddam when he had the chance and now Little George has to try to finish the job.
gnat
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 23:21:02 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Urinefont claims descent from Lilith, not Eve?
doubt it
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 23:20:47 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Urinefont.
End O. Story.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 23:18:51 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Urinefont. Says it all.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 23:17:13 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Here's my final view of today. I think Osama is dead. I think the US has known he is dead for some time. I think they will continue to cover this up because they do not want to make him a focal point or rallying cry. His unknown status will potentially scatter would-be usurpers of his regime. WE know he's dead, but to solve the "kill him or try him" dilemma, we decided to kill him and not tell anyone. Brilliant. Good night! Doinkz (01) - Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 23:14:24 (EDT)
My two cents are:
It�s called Catastrophe: Clinton�s Role in America�s Worst Disaster - and tells the real story of 9/11 - the one the big media are afraid to report.
Catastrophe begins on January 20, 1993, when William Jefferson Clinton took the oath of office as the 42nd president of the United States of America. Clinton swore to �preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States� from enemies both foreign and domestic.
During the next eight years, Bill Clinton would preside over the most corrupt administration in American history. He would be only the second president in American history to be impeached.
When Bill Clinton took office, American supremacy on the world stage had never been so great and unchallenged. Our military was without equal. The economy was beginning a record boom.
Soon after Bill Clinton left office, Americans began to discover his bitter legacy.
Even as Clinton was leaving Washington, the American economy had begun to move into a serious recession.
And America�s belief in invulnerability was shattered on September 11, 2001, when 19 Arab hijackers slammed civilian jets into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.
As Catastrophe: Clinton�s Role in America�s Worst Disaster demonstrates, the events of September 11 not only were predictable after eight years of Clinton, but they also could have been prevented.
Catastrophe exposes what really happened during the Clinton years, and how Bill Clinton and his administration systematically undermined America�s national security by emasculating the U.S. military and the nation�s intelligence agencies.
Bill Clinton made America vulnerable to attack.
Here are just some of the revelations from Catastrophe:
Clinton�s own admission that he could have extradited Osama bin Laden from Sudan - but he didn�t because he felt bin Laden was not a threat! If you don�t believe this, read his verbatim comments from our exclusive tape recording!
A senior CIA officer goes on record to reveal that Bill Clinton helped Saddam Hussein by allowing him to illegally sell oil - and make billions to stay in power.
Clinton adviser Dick Morris says that Clinton was warned about the terrorist bombings against American troops at the Khobar Towers - and he ignored the warning!
The FBI and CIA could have easily foiled the 9-11 attacks - but were negligent as two known terrorist gained entry into the U.S. with the CIA�s full knowledge. They would later participate in the 9-11 attacks.
FBI agent Coleen Rowley says the FBI could have prevented 9-11, but refused to get a search warrant on one of the 9-11 terrorists.
NewsMax broke the story that Bill Clinton tied the hands of the CIA and FBI - hear from agents on the inside who broke the story on NewsMax and reveal what really happened.
Bill Clinton refused to require driver�s licenses to expire at the time of expiring visas. If he had done this, one of the 9-11 terrorists would have been arrested or deported.
The 1996 Clinton-Gore airline safety commission set the stage for 9-11.
Why Clinton�s adviser Dick Morris says Bill Clinton�s affair with Monica Lewinksy helped Osama bin Laden survive and plot 9-11
Read Bill Clinton�s shocking statements about America�s guilt in 9-11 - he even blamed America for 9-11 and cited our treatment of the Indians and Muslims during the Crusades!
A secret 1994 terrorism report warned of suicidal hijackings - and Bill Clinton ignored it.
And there is much, much more in Catastrophe, including:
There is strong evidence that the West Nile virus was the first bioweapon used by Iraq. Did you know the first cases appeared near the United Nations in New York and that a major Iraqi defector said Saddam bragged in 1997 he would release the West Nile virus on America?
A top economics adviser to Russia�s President Putin warned on the front page of Pravda, just months before 9-11, that a catastrophic �financial attack� on the U.S. economy would take place. She has new warnings about the future.
The Russian government officially told its citizens to cash out dollars in the months after 9-11 - and warned of an economic collapse. Did it have advance knowledge?
Two top U.S. military commanders have warned that weapons of mass destruction will be used in the new war on terrorism.
FEMA has a secret plan to build emergency cities that could house millions of Americans - after our cities are attacked by weapons of mass destruction.
New evidence exists that al-Qaeda acquired small nuclear weapons in the late 1990s.
Why is Warren Buffet predicting a nuclear attack on a U.S. city?
China�s hidden ties with the Taliban and al-Qaeda are revealed, along with new evidence that China was providing arms and intelligence to both groups even after 9-11.
A senior Senate aide goes on the record to say that senators and congressman will never investigate the FBI�s role in 9-11 - they are too afraid the FBI will blackmail them.
If the U.S. invades Iraq, Saddam has already told the U.S. how he will retaliate and what weapons he will use.
Catastrophe is a wake-up call to Americans. This is the book that reveals the real story - without media censorship.
Gen. Jack Singlaub says, �Every American needs to get and read Catastrophe. It reveals Bill Clinton�s role in 9-11 and what America must do to prevent future attacks.�
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 22:53:07 (EDT)
My two cents are:
A bit eccentric, but she has a pointed finger.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 22:25:06 (EDT)
correction
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 22:31:38 (EDT)
My two cents are:
No she doesn't. She is schizophrenic.
Just like all liberals.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 22:30:48 (EDT)
My two cents are:
A bit eccentric, but she has a point.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 22:25:06 (EDT)
My two cents are:
THE FACE OF LIBERAL EVIL: A WOMAN/MAN SPOUTING INANE ANTI-AMERICAN LIBERAL GIBBERISH. HER NAME? ELEANOR THE E-VILE! " Ms. Gougakis began ranting and raving about everything from Enron to impeachment to Al Gore, at one point breaking down in tears when the moderator tried to cut her off. Ms. Gougakis rambled:
"We are the terrorists! I'm scared to live in this country. We have to start impeaching this president�What about Bush's relationship with Enron? This man is not a president. He's an idiot! An idiot! He's a deceitful person who stole the election of the United States�he is the first evil�a disgrace to our country. We must start installing the man I voted for, Al Gore." Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah DOINK
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 22:16:15 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I find the ribbon in giacomo's long hair to be irresitable!
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 22:11:23 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Hey, look, it was a feeble effort at self-deflecting poetic humor. In truth, I see myself as more a closet Casanova. At least that is what all the women tell me. True.
Pete�
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 22:06:01 (EDT)
My two cents are:
With cad ambitions, of course. All the more pathetic.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 22:03:31 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Cad??? I always figured you for a poor, pathetic asshole.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 22:02:54 (EDT)
My two cents are:
???
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- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 22:02:05 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I may be a bastard, but I'm a damn fine one. My mother was a saint and my father a rogue. That makes me a cad and I do like that role.
Pete�
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 22:01:49 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Well, Hungarian women are the most beautiful on earth in my view. So, you better watch out...;-) Hopefully, the preservatives in your ketchup have hit you with some of the ugly sauce.
Pete�
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 22:00:20 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Pete, we understand your antipathy toward "kin," what with being the bastard you are, and all.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 21:58:33 (EDT)
My two cents are:
No, I use a squeeze of lime in mine. You should try it some time.
Pete�
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 21:57:50 (EDT)
My two cents are:
A tad bitter, Pete?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 21:56:44 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I don't know. Pete. My mother is considered 100% Hungarian. Of course, tracing the genealogy back through time that would make her Asian, Turkish and Chinese. My husbands parents are both 100% Irish. Of course, once again tracing it back you would get the mixture. That makes my husband 100% Irish. I'm the heinz.
Mary
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 21:54:14 (EDT)
My two cents are:
No, Mary, as usual you presume no one got it. It was gotten, just not responded to cause everyone is a Heinz, not just your precious kin. You need to get it before you accuse others of not getting it. I get it. Trust me. Doink.
Pete�
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 21:46:29 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The only reason we follow Eve is because mytochondrial DNA can only be detected in the female gene line through generations. But for every Eve, there definitely was an adam, or two or three or ...
Johnny W.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 21:44:53 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Pete, it was out of context with the content. My granddaughter is Hungarian, Irish, Mexican and German. My husband called her a Heinz..and I got defensive. I said that made her all the better, just look at Prince Charles. That's what happens when you don't mix up the gene pool. He agreed.
Mary
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 21:43:49 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I guess we now know where the few remeaining hippies in America ahve gone to roost and wither away. Doink.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 21:42:49 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Poor, poor, pathetic asshole.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 21:37:06 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Someone in her line obviously spread his seed quite a bit?
doubt it?
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 21:36:34 (EDT)
My two cents are:
: Eve a tart? Why just because ehr offspring happened to wiggle through the survival maze? In fact, eve is simply the oldest line of which there were several lines coinciding with ehrs that evidently was snufed out over time. Someone in her line obviously spread his seed quite a bit. Perhaps like King fo teh Zulus who picks virgin maidens from among a few thousand maidens eachyear to be one of his many wives. Somehow Gloria Steinham was evidenly lost in that gene pool. Goes to show how far women ahve marginalized men in this so-claled "liberal" society. Ha!
Pete�
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 21:32:00 (EDT)
WOW! THAT ONE IS DIAGNOSTIC!
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 21:35:26 (EDT)
My two cents are:
There goes autopete again, with his Testosterone Deficit Syndrome.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 21:34:08 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Eve a tart? Why just because ehr offspring happened to wiggle through the survival maze? In fact, eve is simply the oldest line of which there were several lines coinciding with ehrs that evidently was snufed out over time. Someone in her line obviously spread his seed quite a bit. Perhaps like King fo teh Zulus who picks virgin maidens from among a few thousand maidens eachyear to be one of his many wives. Somehow Gloria Steinham was evidenly lost in that gene pool. Goes to show how far women ahve marginalized men in this so-claled "liberal" society. Ha!
Pete�
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 21:32:00 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Eve, being the tart she was, knew exactly what to do with that apple.
gnat
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 21:19:23 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I'm sorry, gnat. I would have liked to see that tree. I can imagine the emptiness in the area where it once stood.
Mary
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 21:18:28 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Appears they whisk away the one who actually writes the script.
gnat
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 21:16:18 (EDT)
My two cents are:
That's always the rub, socialzits like Mary always focus on their fear of royalty when every one else is focusing on equality like Eve. Stupid. Waht is even stupider is a female thinking she can openly call out some testosterone. Loony tunes.
Pete�
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 21:14:22 (EDT)
My two cents are:
To be called a pod person by Pete merely confirms one's humanity.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 20:50:04 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I wonder how many meetings with the public affairs people it took to decide this day should be orange? Seems like a no-brainer to me, but I'm sure there were actual meetings, complete with brainstorming and golf stories, to arrive at the recommendation that -DUH!- this should be not a yellow day, not a red day (nobody would go to Disney World,) but an ORANGE DAY!
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 20:48:50 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Hi Mary. Maybe this tree hugger should have returned earlier and attempted to save the tree that some were paying homage to because it resembled the Virgin Mary looking down at her babe. Could have taken a detour after coming down the mountain and maybe saved the tree from the chain saw attacker. And if he had sawed through gnat, so what. Would have gotten rid of pod person gnat to the delight of some on this board.
gnat
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 20:42:48 (EDT)
My two cents are:
And the ultimate insult to democracy and honor is this guy, Snippy, is plundering the Treasury and the Constitution because of a rightwing coup at the hands of a handful of the most corrupt "justices" imaginable. The pathetic thing is that twisted blowhards, like Glint and Pete, actually KNOW this and are depending on Clinton's jism being the legacy of our times. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! DOUBT IT!
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 20:35:22 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Well, Cheney's been underground, except for fundraising and TV propogana. Plus, he's being investigated by the SEC for felonies. You can't have a guy like that around too much. Bad PR. Bad body language. I mean, think about it. What possible other reason could there be for hiding the snarling wimp? It's not like this country needs him. We were doing a lot better before he crawled back out from under his rock. Meanwhile, you've got an orange day and this felon is being protected. Go figure.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 20:28:03 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Hi, gnat.
Mary
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 20:22:20 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Cheney is moved to undisclosed location. Is this procedure in cases of a threat. To have the President speaking on television, and the Vice-President whisked away? I would think it would be the other way around.
Mary
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 20:21:29 (EDT)
My two cents are:
U.S. Heightens Threat Level of Terrorist Attack
By Linda D. Kozaryn
American Forces Press Service
WASHINGTON, Sept. 10, 2002 -- The United States is at high risk of terrorist attack, Attorney General John Ashcroft announced today.
New, credible information, coupled with intelligence analysis of the situation, has led U.S. officials to raise the nation's threat level to Orange, he said at a Justice Department news briefing. Only the Red threat level is higher in the five-tier Homeland Security Advisory System.
"The U.S. intelligence community has received information based on debriefings of a senior al Qaeda operative of possible terrorist attacks timed to coincide with the anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks on the United States," Ashcroft said.
U.S. officials are not recommending canceling commemorative events nor do they recommend that people change domestic travel plans or that the federal work force not report for duty.
"We are not making those recommendations," Ashcroft stressed. "We ask that Americans both at home and abroad mark the anniversary of last year's savage attacks with a heightened awareness of their environment and the activities occurring around them. This call is based on specific intelligence that heightened awareness and readiness deters terrorism.
The information indicates that al Qaeda cells have been set up in several South Asian countries to conduct car bombings and other attacks on U.S. facilities. The cells have been accumulating explosives since about January, he said.
Intelligence also indicates that one or more people in the Middle East are preparing for a suicide attack or attacks against U.S. interests. The most likely targets, Ashcroft said, are "the transportation and energy sectors and facilities or gatherings that would be recognized worldwide as symbols of American power or security," particularly U.S. military facilities, embassies and national monuments.
Lower-level al Qaeda operatives, he added, may see the anniversary as a time to lash out with small strikes to demonstrate their worldwide presence and resolve.
"At this time," Ashcroft said, "most intelligence focuses on possible attacks on U.S. interests overseas." U.S. officials have decided to close four U.S. embassies in Southeast Asia and to raise security at all overseas diplomatic and military facilities.
The intelligence U.S. officials have received has been analyzed by the full intelligence community, he noted, and has been corroborated by multiple intelligence sources. "Last year at this time, U.S. intelligence discerned similar patterns of terrorist-threat reporting overseas," he said. Other recent events also paralleled terrorist activity that occurred in the weeks before last year's attacks.
The attorney general called on the American people "to remain alert but defiant in the face of this new threat." He said each of us has the ability to increase the security that we need. Security for ourselves, security for our families and security for our communities. Today we call upon Americans to exercise this responsibility with special care and vigilance."
Ashcroft has directed the Joint Terrorism Task Forces in FBI district offices nationwide to coordinate their local response with U.S. attorneys and local anti-terrorism task forces. He has also directed that all relevant information be shared with the Joint Terrorism Task Forces in order for federal officials to work effectively and cooperatively with state and local officials.
"The primary aspiration that we have is to prevent terrorist attacks," the attorney general said. "We believe that state and local law enforcement, the federal authorities and the citizens of this nation working together, are the best effort we can make for prevention."
Homeland Security Director Gov. Tom Ridge said the heightened threat level is being communicated to local and state law enforcement, federal agencies, members of Congress, governors, state homeland security advisers and representatives of the private sector.
Federal agencies will take protective measures commensurate with the heightened threat level to reduce the country's vulnerabilities, Ridge said. These may include increased surveillance and countersurveillance operations, adjusting the number of entry points to buildings, enforcing strict access procedures, erecting more barriers and posting additional security personnel at federal facilities.
Calling on all Americans to maintain a high level of awareness, Ridge said every citizen should be alert to suspicious activity and take precautions. "Let's make sure that every individual citizen who sees something suspicious reports it to either the Joint Terrorism Task Force or the local law enforcement," he said.
Ridge encouraged families to discuss the possibility of terrorist activity during the commemoration period, and he advised employers and employees to review their emergency plans.
"Our advice to Americans is to continue with your plans," Ridge said. "If travel is in your plans, attendance at a public event, we would like you to proceed as you had planned to --- very consistent with the level of intelligence activity that was detected prior to 9-11 --the recommendation was made to raise the level of alert."
"I don't think America needs to be reminded that we are at war," he added. "However, this announcement is a reminder that there are people around the world who would do us harm. Our response is to continue to be America, but to be alert, to be vigilant. We have persevered through this. We'll persevere now. And ultimately, we will prevail."
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 20:11:03 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Welcome back. It's nice to have another female here to relieve Mary of the full brunt of the pineapple's misogyny.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 20:07:22 (EDT)
My two cents are:
All font should be in code orange to match the alert level. For shame that I should return to such negligence on this board.
gnat
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 19:56:26 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Timeout called by the defense. Heading to the locker room to do a load of wash. Grass stains and whatever else.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 17:44:12 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Halftime. Later..
Mary
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 17:08:14 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Lewinsky is jilted, scorned, the relationship is off. Lewinsky retaliates...Score. And that's the key, never tick off a woman. You don't know offense till you've seen it played by a woman.
Mary
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 17:05:22 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Damn, I just got new glasses and already they're getting fuzzy.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 17:02:53 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Clinton has his hand on the fly. Lewinsky drops down and takes her stance. There's the snap, play action. Lewinsky with the ball. A little razzle dazzle hand action. There's the handoff to Clinton. He pumps once, pumps twice. It's in the air. He hits Lewinsky square on the numbers for the score!
Mary likes defense, Bubba likes offense
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 17:01:36 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Yes, Eve of Africa is right. I was thinking more in line of the Royal Family, all having to be of royal lineage somewhere in the picture. I think I'm quite far from all of that.
Mary
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 16:59:20 (EDT)
My two cents are:
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 16:58:14 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 16:57:31 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Actually, I now have custody. Seems the ex didn't want them. Something about too ahrd to wake up in the morning to go to school. So, alls back to normal and I also get to eat cake a few times a week.
Pete�
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 16:56:24 (EDT)
My two cents are:
We are all inbred.
Eve from Africa
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 16:54:27 (EDT)
My two cents are:
No inbreeding? Oh, too bad. I guess pod people breed on the outside? Tell us about it. Please.
Pete�
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 16:54:03 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Sorry, 16:46, you fail the code test. Doink.
Pete�
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 16:53:07 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Old Wouldawent.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 16:52:29 (EDT)
My two cents are:
So, you're a fighter, Pete? That's rich.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 16:52:09 (EDT)
My two cents are:
In other words, I'm a mutt, Pete. A little of everything. No inbreeding here.
Mary
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 16:51:26 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Oh, I know that Mary, but I also have enough african lion in me to know when survival's instincts require an outlet also. You are jsut a lover, not a fighter. Leave the real work to real non-pod people. You can join a harem and be Queen bee. we will all suck your honey and feed your juices to the scribes, but hey, you are not serious debate material for survival in the real world with the other jackals, lions and hyenas. Truth hurts socialists the most.
Pete�
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 16:51:01 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I said I grew up in a tri-lingual household, with a mixture of the South thrown in the mix somewhere, but I'm not necessarily the same ethnic identity as the languages spoken in our household.
Mary
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 16:50:14 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Have you been arrested for "poetry?"
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 16:49:24 (EDT)
My two cents are:
How's are the exes?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 16:48:57 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Do you get to visit the kids without supervision?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 16:48:33 (EDT)
My two cents are:
How does one read Mary's body without any pictures? How are we supposed to know where is is? (01) - Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 16:46:35 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Pete, there's a flower child hippie inside of you straining to come out. LET IT BE!
Mary
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 16:45:17 (EDT)
My two cents are:
How are your kids doing, Pete?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 16:45:16 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Being alien to your nature is all part of being a pod person, Mary. Embrace it like a lilly. Hippie peace makes one soothe. Om.
Pete�
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 16:43:09 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Interesting, Mary, my current girlfriend is Hungarian, English and spanish too. Wait. Where are you again? Yikes. Still interested in making love, not war!?!
Pete�
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 16:42:06 (EDT)
My two cents are:
One has to play both roles, though, to understand the game. I find the the role of offense is alien to my nature, but I really should try it more often. Just to enrich the defensive strategy.
Mary
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 16:41:01 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Lost Cadets. Where's the Tribe man?
Be-in?
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 16:40:09 (EDT)
My two cents are:
�see the whole thing is a world full of rucksack wanderers, Dharma Bums refusing to subscribe to the general demand that they consume production and therefore have to work for the privilege of consuming, all that crap they didn�t really want anyway such as refrigerators, TV sets, cars, �all of them imprisoned in a system of work, produce, consume, work, produce, consume, I see a vision of a great rucksack revolution thousands or even millions of young Americans wandering around with rucksacks, going up to mountains to pray, making children laugh and old men glad, making young girls happy and old girls happier, all of �em Zen Lunatics who go about writing poems that happen to appear in their heads for no reason and also by being kind and also by strange unexpected acts keep giving visions of eternal freedom to everybody and to all living creatures.
Jack Kerouac (The Dharma Bums) 1958
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 16:39:37 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I do like the defense role. It's more challenging.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 16:38:42 (EDT)
My two cents are:
You English know not or poetry.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 16:35:23 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Used to be pod people. Since fornigate they have become wad people. Playing squirt 'n' hide, offense and defense. Mary's on defense. Likes to keep the wad in the closet with its garment.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 16:35:01 (EDT)
My two cents are:
You know not either English or poetry. That's how poets talk.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 16:34:45 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Well, yes I do have some trouble with English. Growing up with a mixture of Hungarian, English and Spanish..has left its mark. I compensate by accompanying most of my speech with body language in real life, but the internet does leave out that dimension. Although, many people don't read body language in America.
Mary
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 16:34:14 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Sometimes poetry is hard to spot. Sometimes it's an excuse for idiocy. Pete is a satirical poet, the old pussed over twat.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 16:33:37 (EDT)
My two cents are:
See, you prove my point, you know not either English or poetry. It is code to uncover defective pod people programming. Thanks for proving the point.
Pete�
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 16:28:18 (EDT)
My two cents are:
It's autopete. Random words jumbled together. It means nothing.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 16:27:35 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Gee, Pete, you sure are coming up with the expressions today. What is a "sanctioned war purveyor?"
Mary
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 16:24:45 (EDT)
My two cents are:
It's the fear of a poor sap who, on 9/11/01, was as far away from the action as could be, pretending to be the great white hunter while Africans muttered about his fat ass and flab. It's fear expressed through overcompensation. It's the fear of a clueless idiot.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 16:18:04 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Pete, your fear is embarrassing. Change your diaper.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 16:09:20 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The Iraq Connection
Was Saddam involved in Oklahoma City and the first WTC bombing?
BY MICAH MORRISON
Thursday, September 5, 2002 12:01 a.m. EDT
OKLAHOMA CITY--With the Sept. 11 anniversary upon us and President Bush talking about a "regime change" in Iraq, it's an apt time to look at two investigators who connect Baghdad to two notorious incidents of domestic terrorism. Jayna Davis, a former television reporter in Oklahoma City, believes an Iraqi cell was involved in the 1995 bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building here. Middle East expert Laurie Mylroie links Iraq to the first bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993, and has published a book on the subject.
Both cases are closed, of course--in the public mind if not quite officially. Timothy McVeigh was convicted of murder in the Oklahoma City bombing and executed in June 2001; Terry Nichols was sentenced to life in prison for conspiracy and manslaughter, and faces a further trial on murder charges. In the World Trade Center bombing, prosecutors convicted six men of Middle Eastern origin on the theory that they operated in a "loose network." One suspect remains at large, but the apparent ringleader, known as Ramzi Yousef, was captured in Pakistan and is now in federal prison in the U.S.
The prosecutors in both episodes believe they got their men, and of course conspiracy theories have shadowed many prominent cases. Still, the long investigative work by Ms. Davis and Ms. Mylroie, coming to parallel conclusions though working largely independently of each other, has gained some prominent supporters. Former CIA Director James Woolsey, for example, recently told the Journal that "when the full stories of these two incidents are finally told, those who permitted the investigations to stop short will owe big explanations to these two brave women. And the nation will owe them a debt of gratitude."
Ms. Davis, for example, has a copy of a bulletin put out by the Oklahoma Highway Patrol immediately after the Murrah bombing. It specifies a blue car occupied by "Middle Eastern male subject or subjects." According to police radio traffic at the time, also obtained by Ms. Davis, a search was on as well for a brown Chevrolet pickup "occupied by Middle Eastern subjects." When an officer radioed in asking if "this is good information or do we really not know," a dispatcher responded "authorization FBI." Law-enforcement sources tell Ms. Davis that the FBI bulletin was quickly and mysteriously withdrawn.
The next day, the federal government issued arrest warrants and sketches of two men seen together, John Doe No. 1 and No. 2. John Doe 1 turned out to be McVeigh, who was quickly picked up on an unrelated charge. Following the arrest of McVeigh and Nichols, the Justice Department changed course, saying the witnesses were confused and there was no John Doe 2 with McVeigh.
But Ms. Davis, who was covering the case at the time for KFOR-TV in Oklahoma City, says in fact there was a John Doe No. 2, and that she has identified him. The original warrant for John Doe No. 2 described a man about 5 feet 10 inches, average weight, with brown hair and a tattoo on his left arm. She says the man matching this description is an Iraqi political refugee named Hussain al-Hussaini, an itinerant restaurant worker who entered the country in 1994 from a Saudi Arabian refugee camp and soon found his way to Oklahoma City. She says she has more than 20 witnesses who can place him near the Murrah Building on the day of the bombing or finger him in parts of the conspiracy.
Seven weeks after the bombing, Ms. Davis's KFOR television station began broadcasting a series of reports on a possible Middle East connection. It did not name Mr. al-Hussaini, but did include photographs of him that digitally obscured his face. Mr. al-Hussaini sued for libel and defamation, denying any association with the bombing. In November 1999, U.S. District Court Judge Tim Leonard dismissed the lawsuit.
Citing defense contentions Mr. al-Hussaini's counsel failed to dispute, the judge ruled that Ms. Davis had proved that Mr. al-Hussaini "bears a strong resemblance to the composite sketch of John Doe #2," including a tattoo on his left arm, that he was born and raised in Iraq, that he had served in the Iraqi army, and that his Oklahoma City employer had once been suspected by the federal government of having "connections with the Palestine Liberation Organization."
Mr. al-Hussaini appealed Judge Leonard's decision to the 10th Circuit Court, where a ruling is pending. He is represented by Gary Richardson, a well-known Oklahoma lawyer who currently is an independent candidate for governor. In an interview, Mr. Richardson denounced the treatment of Mr. al-Hussaini as anathema to American values, saying he had been singled out because he was an Arab. "There is no evidence that Hussain al-Hussaini is John Doe No. 2," Mr. Richardson said. "He was grossly mistreated by the media in Oklahoma."
In 1996, Mr. al-Hussaini returned to Boston, where he had first entered the U.S. He found work as a cook at Logan Airport. According to his medical records, he was haunted by the Oklahoma City episode and the publicity surrounding his libel suit. He began drinking heavily and in 1997 was admitted to a psychiatric clinic for a depressive disorder and suicidal thoughts. Mr. al-Hussaini's lawyer says his client has since moved to another part of the country and is "trying to put his life back together."
According to notes taken by a nurse at the psychiatric clinic, Mr. al-Hussaini quit his job at Logan Airport in November 1997, nearly four years before planes from there were hijacked on Sept. 11, 2001. Her notes say he stated, "If anything happens there, I'll be a suspect."
Evidence supporting Ms. Davis's suspicions surfaced during discovery for the McVeigh trial. An FBI report, for example, records a call a few hours after the bombing from Vincent Cannistraro, a retired CIA official who had once been chief of operations for the agency's counter-terrorism center. He told Kevin Foust, a FBI counter-terror investigator, that he'd been called by a top counter-terror adviser to the Saudi royal family. Mr. Foust reported that the Saudi told Mr. Cannistraro about "information that there was a 'squad' of people currently in the United States, very possibly Iraqis, who have been tasked with carrying out terrorist attacks against the United States. The Saudi claimed that he had seen a list of 'targets,' and that the first on the list was the federal building in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma."
Stephen Jones, McVeigh's lead lawyer, discusses the FBI report in his book, "Others Unknown: Timothy McVeigh and the Oklahoma City Bombing Conspiracy." Mr. Cannistraro later told Mr. Jones that he didn't know if the caller "was credible or not." But Mr. Foust's memo says Mr. Cannistraro described the Saudi official as "responsible for developing intelligence to help prevent the royal family from becoming victims of terrorist attacks," and someone he'd known "for the past 10 or 15 years."
Ms. Davis's evidence was examined by Patrick Lang, a Middle East expert and former director of the Defense Intelligence Agency's human intelligence collection section. In a memo to Ms. Davis, Mr. Lang concluded that Mr. al-Hussaini likely is a member of Unit 999 of the Iraqi Military Intelligence Service, or Estikhabarat. He wrote that this unit is headquartered at Salman Pak southeast of Baghdad, and "deals with clandestine operations at home and abroad."
Larry Johnson, a former deputy director of the State Department's Office of Counter Terrorism, also has examined Ms. Davis's voluminous research. "Looking at the Jayna Davis material," Mr. Johnson says, "what's clear is that more than Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols were involved. Without a doubt, there's a Middle Eastern tie to the Oklahoma City bombing."
Mr. al-Husseini and other former Iraqi soldiers colluded with McVeigh and Nichols in the attack, Ms. Davis charges. "There is a Middle Eastern terrorist cell operating in Oklahoma City. They were operating prior to the Oklahoma City bombing and they are still operating today."
The popular stereotype of McVeigh is of a twisted "patriot" out to avenge government actions at Waco and Ruby Ridge. But in March 1998 he penned a prison-cell "Essay on Hypocrisy" obsessed with Iraq. "We've all seen pictures that show a Kurdish woman and child frozen in death from the use of chemical weapons. But have you ever seen these pictures juxtaposed next to pictures from Hiroshima or Nagasaki?" With calls for war crimes trials of Saddam Hussein, "why do we not hear the same cry for blood directed at those responsible for even greater amounts of 'mass destruction?'"
In dismissing the al-Hussaini libel suit, Judge Leonard pointedly noted the indictment of McVeigh and Nichols included a charge of conspiracy "with others unknown." In sentencing Nichols, U.S. District Judge Richard Matsch remarked, "It would be disappointing to me if the law enforcement agencies of the United States government have quit looking for answers."
The Sept. 11 airline crashes were not the first attempt to topple the World Trade Center towers. In February 1993, a bomb blast in a public parking garage below the North Tower of the World Trade Center killed six people and left a crater six stories deep. It could have been much worse. In her book, "The War Against America: Saddam Hussein and the World Trade Center Attacks," Laurie Mylroie says that the bomb was designed to topple the North Tower into the South Tower and envelop the scene in a cloud of cyanide gas. Hearing the case, Judge Kevin Duffy agreed, saying that if the plan had worked, "we would have been dealing with tens of thousands of deaths." After the bombing, the FBI rounded up four Muslims who moved in extremist circles in the New York area. Three others escaped overseas: a Palestinian, an Iraqi named Abdul Yasin, and Ramzi Yousef.
Ms. Mylroie's book argues that Iraq was complicit in this attack. At the very least, she notes, Saddam Hussein is harboring a wanted terrorist: Abdul Yasin. He came to the U.S. six months before the Trade Center attack and is charged with helping mix chemicals for the bomb. Picked up in an early sweep after the bombing, he talked his way out of an FBI interrogation and turned up back in Baghdad.
Beyond this, Ms. Mylroie contends that the bombing was "an Iraqi intelligence operation with the Muslim extremists as dupes." She says that the original lead FBI official on the case, Jim Fox, concluded that "Iraq was behind the World Trade Center bombing." In late 1993, shortly before his retirement, Mr. Fox was suspended by FBI Director Louis Freeh for speaking to the media about the case; he died in 1997. Ms. Mylroie says that Mr. Fox indicated to her that he did not continue to pursue the Iraq connection because Justice Department officials "did not want state sponsorship addressed."
According to phone records analyzed by Ms. Mylroie, Abdul Yasin appeared in the orbit of one of U.S. conspirators, Muhammed Salameh, some weeks after Mr. Salameh made a series of phone calls to relatives in Iraq, including to his uncle, Kadri Abu Bakr. Mr. Bakr is a senior figure in the PLO's "Western Sector" terrorist unit; at the very least, his phone calls would be monitored by Iraqi intelligence.
Ramzi Yousef also showed up after the calls to Mr. Bakr, according to Ms. Mylroie's analysis. His arrival "transformed the conspiracy from a pipe bombing plot to an audacious attack on the World Trade Center." Yousef was "the individual most responsible for building the World Trade Center bomb"--1,200 pounds of urea nitrate with a nitroglycerine trigger, booster chemicals, sulfuric acid and sodium cyanide.
After the bombing, Yousef vanished; he had entered with an Iraqi passport, and exited with a Pakistani passport. Yousef's Pakistani passport was in the name of Abdul Basit. He obtained it from the Pakistani consulate in New York shortly before the bombing, saying he had lost his passport and presenting photocopied pages from Abdul Basit's 1984 and 1988 passports.
Ms. Mylroie says her evidence suggests that Abdul Basit and his family were among two dozen Pakistani nationals working in Kuwait who vanished at the time of the Iraqi invasion. Law enforcement authorities believe she overplays this possibility, that Yousef is indeed Basit, and that the original Iraqi passport is the only firm link to Iraq.
After fleeing in the wake of the 1993 bombing, Yousef/Basit made his way to the Philippines, where he planted a bomb that killed the passenger taking his seat after he disembarked from a plane on the island of Cebu. Police investigating a fire in a Manila apartment he occupied found a laptop computer with plans to bomb 12 U.S. jets simultaneously. Yousef escaped but was later apprehended in Pakistan and turned over to U.S. authorities. He was convicted in both the Trade Center attack and the plane-bombing plot.
One of Yousef's confederates, Abdul Hakin Murad, was arrested at the Manila apartment and later convicted in the U.S. in the plane plot. While in custody in the Philippines, he told investigators that he and Yousef had discussed hijacking a jet and crashing it into CIA headquarters. According to a January 1995 Manila police report, Murad said "he will board any American commercial aircraft pretending to be an ordinary passenger. Then he will hijack said aircraft, control its cockpit and dive it at the CIA headquarters. There will be no bomb or any explosive that he will use in its execution. It is simply a suicidal mission that he is very much willing to execute."
Astonishingly, the Murrah bombing and the first WTC attack share a connection. Yousef and Terry Nichols were in the Philippines simultaneously. Nichols's trips there are undisputed; his wife's relatives lived in Cebu City. Cebu is also the territory of the Islamic terrorist group Abu Sayyaf. McVeigh lawyers sought to substantiate an "others unknown" defense theory, and made extensive filings concerning Nichols's activities there.
These filings show that he was often in Cebu without his wife, and that he was in frequent contact with Ernesto Malaluan, a relative of his wife who had once lived in Saudi Arabia and owned a boarding house in Cebu City. The filing asserted that his boarding house "shelters students from a university well known for its Islamic militancy."
A defense examination of phone records found that Nichols had repeatedly called the Cebu boarding house in the weeks preceding the bombing. Some of the calls were billed to a prepaid phone card to which McVeigh also had access. The calls were often made from pay phones at truck stops and the like, and sometimes followed mysterious patterns. In one instance, for example, the same number was dialed nine times in nine minutes before someone answered and spoke for 14 minutes.
The McVeigh defense also produced two witnesses, Nichols's father-in-law and a resort worker, who said that while in the Philippines, Nichols had asked them if they knew anyone who knew "how to make bombs."
The defense team also obtained a statement from Philippines law-enforcement officials about a meeting of Nichols and Yousef. The statement was given by a putative Abu Sayyaf leader, Edward Angeles. Angeles is a murky figure. Born Ibrahim Yakub and said to be one of the founders of Abu Sayyaf, he surrendered to the Philippine Army in 1995, claiming he had been all the time a deep penetration agent for the government. Angeles was assassinated in 1999 by unknown gunmen.
The McVeigh defense filings portray the Nichols link to the Cebu City boarding house, Ramzi Yousef and Abu Sayyaf as grounds for believing that bomb-making expertise may have been passed to Nichols through "Iraqi intelligence based in the Philippines." McVeigh attorney Stephen Jones told Insight magazine recently that six months before the Oklahoma City bombing, "Tim couldn't blow up a rock. Then Terry goes to the Philippines," and their bomb-making skills take a great leap forward. The court did not grant Mr. Jones's request to comb through U.S. intelligence files in search of an Iraq connection to the Oklahoma City bombing.
The principal reason for suspecting an Iraqi role in the Sept. 11 attacks is of course the much-discussed report of a meeting in Prague on April 8, 2001, between apparent hijacking leader Mohamed Atta and Ahmed Khalil Ibrahim Samir al-Ani, an Iraqi diplomat expelled as a spy shortly thereafter. Press reports have repeatedly cast doubt on these reports, apparently because the FBI located Atta in Virginia and Florida shortly before and after the meeting and found no record of his leaving the U.S. But the latest report, in the Aug. 2 edition of the Los Angeles Times, quotes a high Bush administration official as saying evidence of the meeting "holds up." In the face of doubts and denials, Czech officials have repeatedly maintained that they're sure the meeting took place. Atta also passed through Prague on his way to the U.S. in June of 2000, returning a second time after being refused entry for lack of a visa.
There are also reports of various contacts between Iraqis and the al Qaeda terrorist network, notably a 1998 visit to Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan by Saddam Hussein's deputy head of military intelligence at the time, Faruq al-Hijazi. In congressional testimony in March, CIA Director George Tenet noted that Iraq has "had contacts with al Qaeda," adding that "the two sides mutual antipathy toward the United States and the Saudi royal family suggest that tactical cooperation between them is possible."
Espionage writer Edward Jay Epstein has pointed out that of the eight pilots and co-pilots of hijacked planes on Sept. 11, none got off a distress call. What we know of the incidents came from stewardesses and flyers with cell phones. Commercial satellite photos show the body of an airliner at Salman Pak, where the Iraqis are thought to maintain terrorist training camps. One Iraqi defector, Sabah Khalifa Alami, has stated that Iraqi intelligence trained groups at Salman Pak on how to hijack planes without weapons. Mr. Epstein details these connections at his Web site, www.edwardjayepstein.com.
None of this is "hard evidence," let alone "conclusive evidence," that Saddam Hussein was complicit in Sept. 11 or any of the other domestic terrorist attacks. But there is quite a bit of smoke curling up from various routes to Baghdad, and it's not clear that anyone except Jayna Davis and Laurie Mylroie has looked very hard for fire. We do know that Saddam Hussein plotted to assassinate former President George Bush during a visit to Kuwait in April 1993. Could he have been waging a terror offensive against the U.S. ever since the end of the Gulf War? This remains a speculative possibility, but a possibility that needs to be put on the table in a serious way.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 16:07:20 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Well Mary, without what you term "McVeigh's thinking" there is no doubt you would not be alive. This country was founded on righteous and some not so righteous war. It is simply part of life. Choosing the right ones is the hard part. Something that should never ever be left to a treasonous socialist liebral. McVeigh was a puppet or a stooge terrorist. Not a sanctioned war purveyor. You are totally clueless and couldn't analogize yourself out of your Raisin Bran and Yogurt. Nope.
Pete�
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 16:05:26 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I always thought McVeigh was a Manchurian Candidate of the left. He was too stupid. Oswald II.
YuP
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 16:02:27 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"No, to secure peace, some times you need to wage war." Mcveigh's thinking. Could there be something wrong with this logic, ie; Palestine and Israel.
Mary
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 15:55:09 (EDT)
My two cents are:
See if Mary had a brain she would know all these things. She does not. She is a pod person. Doink.
Pete�
Apparently Mary is unaware (duh) of the alternative Mid-East connection to OK City - Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 15:53:46 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Could someone be playing with her head? Ha! (01)
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 15:45:03 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Mary sure reads first impressions. Substance means nothing. The shape of his ehad and pod-like symbolism is what makes ehr feel good about hsi positions. God knows what she does with the Kama-Sutra. Om.
Perte�
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 15:43:35 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Read it again. The issue was your reaction. Still is.
Pete�
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 15:41:52 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Chirac with his reasoned approach, is neither left nor right. I find him refreshing.
Mary
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 15:41:30 (EDT)
My two cents are:
That guy who blew up OKC was a "treasonous liberal"?
Mary
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 15:38:40 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I was thinking about this left/right ideology that has taken over all debating in the past decade. The myth that only liberals oppose the war, that as soon as someone takes an independent stand such as Scott Ritter, John McCain, he's automatically a "liberal" or a leftist. That leaves them in a quandry with Buchanan. Actually, Buchanan and Horowitz is what triggered my thoughts. It's a circle, like a clock, and one can go to such an extreme left that they become right or vice-versa.
Mary
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 15:37:09 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Code
orange
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 15:35:39 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Still wondering about the non-pod people in Oklahoma who left their kids at Day care. Yeah, no mercy from the treasonous liberals there. No, to secure peace, some times you need to wage war. As a former member of the Coaltition for Peace through Strength, you can kiss my arse; when the threat is clear. That will happen only when all socialsits like you are marginalized to obscurity. The survival of America depends on it. You and your "mindset" are the enemy. Period.
Pete�
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 15:34:01 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I love it when these liebral demonrat tratiors try to sound so down homey with their little quips about day care and SUVs. The truth is they are responsible for the ruin of this country into spiraling socialjism. You are the enemy. So forget about the soft sell. It makes you look like Marilyn Chambers on the Soap box. The truth is you are a delusional pod person.
End of Story
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 15:30:59 (EDT)
My two cents are:
LOL. All you need is love is one of my "handles" on the internet. You got me pegged. Guess we better get the teens over here to do up the van, before we take it on our next trip. :)
Mary
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 15:29:08 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Will Pete be fighting in this "war" he speaks of with such arrousal?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 15:26:32 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Mary and gnat's "trip" to SF last year. Doink.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 15:26:18 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Mary's delusional view of Whirled Peas ...
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 15:25:13 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Love is good. My 11 month old grandaughter went to daycare setting at her mom's gym yesterday. She was so cute, she walked in and promptly went over to all the little boys and gave them a hug. I think she gets that from her grandmother.
Mary
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 15:24:11 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Popping up posies?
doubt it
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 15:23:39 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The sexual identity war that rages in his heart.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 15:22:50 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Washington, D.C. - In response to growing concern over youth violence, including such incidents as the school shootings in Columbine High School, spitball fights in Brooklyn, and the malicious tack concealed on 3rd grade teacher Jeannie Walton�s chair in Butte, Montana, President Clinton has adopted a new youth policy, embodied in the slogan: "Make Love, Not War."
In a press conference, today, Clinton recalled his own childhood in Hope, Arkansas.
"I fear for today�s young people," Clinton stated. "When I was in school, violence was the furthest thing from my youthful mind. Now sure, the sixties had their fair share of turmoil, and some of my fellow students felt the need for an aggressive stand against, �The Man,� but I rejected that. No, I was much more concerned with mini-skirts and go-go boots, than pistols and knives."
Lamenting young people�s apparent lack of appreciation for the softer side of life, Clinton appointed himself head of a new commission to try and convert violent energy into something positive.
"As we did in the sixties, so must our children walk away from the concept of violence against violence, and embrace love for love." Clinton continued. "I learned quite a lot, making love and not war. I learned about persuasion. I learned about honesty. And most of all, I learned about discretion. These were valuable lessons that not only shaped the direction of early life, but have formed the basis of my administration."
Clinton went on to describe a two-step out-reach program, aimed towards both children and their parents. Both groups need different approaches, contended Clinton, and he hoped to spearhead efforts to reach them both.
"Back when I was a young adult," Clinton recalled. "Attitudes were different than they are now. We live in a cynical society, and that is reflected in our children. In my day, it was not unusual to address a stranger. Now, when I encounter young women whose acquaintance I�ve yet to make, they often turn away. They key to love is trust, and I�m going to do everything in my power as President of the United States to see to it that our young women are more trusting."
Clinton�s advice didn�t end with children. Clinton encouraged parents to be role models and active participants in the lives of their children.
"Remember," Clinton cautioned parents. "Attitudes start in the home. We need to teach our children that love is the way to deal with things, not violence. Parents have to show the way. I will personally help implement this plan on the soccer fields of this great land. I won�t have our Soccer Moms rioting like European hooligans. As soon as my schedule permits, I plan on doing a nation-wide tour to instruct our Soccer Moms in the best way to show their love."
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 15:20:03 (EDT)
My two cents are:
What do you mean by "popping up posies" ?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 15:19:17 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Which war, autopete?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 15:18:42 (EDT)
My two cents are:
If this war were left to Mary, we'd all be popping up posies by now. Shoo!
Pete�
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 15:16:14 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Oh no! Not Defcon 3! Not another font! Not for the duration! Have mercy!
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 15:08:47 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Why would anyone want another World War? Didn't we learn anything from the other two?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 15:00:12 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Autopete is funny but hard to understand.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 14:47:30 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Pete, go to Defcon 3 font for the duration of the alert. (01) - Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 14:47:14 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Saddam Hussein had a stronger nuclear arsenal before that gulf war than he does now,the United States is not in immediate danger. There is time for alternatives to war, at least time to consider them. If Bush strikes before the election it will look like politics. That is disastrous for America's image, since we the Superpower will invade a third world country. At least with Kuwait we were asked to intervene, weren't we?
Mary
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 14:45:55 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Perhaps something has already happened in Bahrain and Bush will soon tell us about it. Time to start WWIII.
Pete�
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 14:42:35 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Are we now on threatcon Delta, as well as Orange? Something is brewing.
Pete�
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 14:39:59 (EDT)
My two cents are:
How about the President and Mr. Clinton.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 14:39:19 (EDT)
My two cents are:
President Clinton. Has a familiar ring to it. I like it. President Hillary Clinton. President Clinton. Sounds good.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 14:37:53 (EDT)
My two cents are:
In 1994, after twenty years developing Iraq's atomic weapon, Dr. Khidhir Hamza made a daring escape to warn the CIA of Saddam's nuclear ambitions...only to be ridiculed and turned away! After a harrowing journey across three continents with Iraqi agents on his trail, Hamza finally came in from the cold at the U.S. embassy in Hungary. Now he tells a frightening story that U.S. officials have finally come to believe: that Saddam is still feverishly at work on the bomb and, if pushed to the wall, will use it.
Dr. Hamza also presents a startling, unprecedented portrait of Saddam himself �� his drunken rages, his women, his fear of germs, and his cold-blooded murder of underlings. A former resident of the presidential palace, Hamza is the only defector who has lived to write a firsthand, intimate portrait of the Iraqi inner circle, its spies and hit men, and their brutal chief.
Saddam's Bombmaker is also a saga of one man's journey through the circles of hell. Educated at MIT and Florida State University, dedicated to a life of peaceful teaching in America, Dr. Hamza relates how the regime ordered him home, seduced him into a pampered life as an atomic energy official, and forced him to design a bomb. The price of refusal was torture.
As the father of the Iraqi bomb, Dr. Hamza designed a device from scratch with the help of World War Two�era blueprints from America's Los Alamos labs, all the while planning an escape. Privately, he and his colleagues believed they could procrastinate long enough to outlive Saddam. But the dictator outmaneuvered them, whipping the scientists into a crash program to build a crude bomb that could be dropped on Israel. Had U.S. and Allied forces not quickly mobilized for Desert Storm, Dr. Hamza relates, Saddam may well have succeeded; except for sufficient uranium, the device was ready. It still is.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 14:37:30 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"Don't tell me about the law. The law is anything I write on a scrap of paper."
��Saddam Hussein
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 14:35:24 (EDT)
My two cents are:
This past weekend, Margaret Carlson, co-host of CNN�s Capital Gang, said on-air that there is no doubt that Hillary is running for the White House.
Carlson, also a TIME magazine columnist, is one of the most connected liberals in Washington.
During the CNN show, Carlson explained why Andrew Cuomo pulled out of the Democratic primary in New York, throwing the race to State Comptroller Carl McCall, an African American.
Carlson said that Hillary�s sudden and unusual endorsement of McCall made Cuomo�s race untenable.
Why did Hillary make the unusual move of making an endorsement when she had previously promised to remain neutral?
Carlson said bluntly, "Hillary's running for president. They [the Clintons] wanted the black vote, and the Clintons just undermined [Cuomo].�
Carlson said Hillary�s endorsement proves the Clintons will stop at nothing to get back into the White House.
She said the Hillary endorsement demonstrated that "the Clintons will stab you in the back.�
Carlson recalled that during the Monica scandal, "The Clintons got [Cuomo�s] support during impeachment. If one Cabinet secretary had gone off during the Monica thing, Clinton would have been in a lot of trouble. Andrew Cuomo stuck by him.�
Cuomo had served as Clinton�s cabinet secretary at HUD.
Carlson complained, "They should have at least, the very least, remained neutral.�
demonrats feeding on each other
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 14:33:41 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Nicholl?
doubt it
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 14:31:59 (EDT)
My two cents are:
You mean The Globe missed the story on Jeb Bush's felon daughter and pumped up some story about legal drinking?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 14:31:19 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The facts are this: a substance was found in Nicholl's shoe, not on her person. the rehab wanted to settle this internally but a patient called the cops......
Sounds like a dem plant working overtime to me
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 14:30:26 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The Globe?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 14:24:23 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Yep, it's gotta be the breeding...
Chelsea Clinton Drunk & Out of Controll - Pics
Friday Dec. 28, 2001; 9:53 a.m.
Pics Show Chelsea Drunk and Disorderly
Photographs showing former first daughter Chelsea Clinton staggering bleary eyed into a popular London watering hole will appear in next week's edition of the supermarket tabloid Globe Magazine.
The Globe's cover story headline, "Boozing Chelsea: Clinton Daughter Out of Control," appears over a photo of an unidentified friend grabbing Chelsea by the face in an apparent effort to keep her from passing out.
Other Globe photos show Clinton, eyes bloodshot and looking disoriented, reeling as she emerges from a car with friends, one of whom is steadying her by the arm as the group weaves its way into the popular London nightspot Groucho.
"I thought Chelsea was about to topple over," a source who witnessed the scene tells the tabloid. "She was wobbling on her feet and a friend had to put her arm out to steady her."
The Globe reprints one passage from a British media report that claims:
"Looks like Chelsea Clinton stumbled on a staggeringly good time when she hit London's West End this week. And it took a firm pair of hands to stop her from actually hitting the pavement as she swayed happily into the trendy Groucho Club..."
The drunken night out was not an isolated incident,
according to others cited by the Globe, one of whom said
the former first daughter is "spinning out of control."
"Chelsea's out on the town into the early hours every
chance she gets," a Clinton schoolmate adds. "She loves a
good time, but everything seems to revolve around drinking."
If the reports are accurate, Clinton's problems with
alcohol would mirror a family pattern that saw her Uncle
Roger finally admit to a life-long addiction to booze and
drugs just last summer after entering an Arizona drug rehab
center to dry out.
Last month another of Chelsea's uncles, Tony Rodham,
admitted that he was boozing and smoking marijuana with a
neighbor before he ended up entwined on the living room
couch with the man's girlfriend.
In her younger days Clinton's grandmother Virginia was a
fixture on the Little Rock party scene, with one account
describing her as "a barfly."
According to one friend quoted by the Globe, Chelsea has
turned to liquor "as a defense against [jism] jokes about
her father and Monica Lewinsky and jibes about Hillary."
"One night when somebody cracked a Clinton joke, she walked
into the bar and ordered a double vodka on the rocks," the
source told the tabloid. "She downed it in two swallows and
then walked out."
The Globe reported in April that the former first daughter
was spotted boozing it up for spring break at several
popular nightspots in Aspen, Colo.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 14:19:33 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Chelsea Clinton is ugly?
doubt it
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 14:09:05 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Touchy, touchy, touchy. I expect Jeb Bush to do the right thing and send his daughter to jail.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 14:08:35 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Q: Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly?
A: Because her father is Janet Reno.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 14:01:24 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Clinton brothers? Don't you mean the "hoover" brothers?
"I�ve got to get some [cocaine] for my brother. He�s got a nose like a Hoover vacuum cleaner." -Roger Clinton
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 13:53:30 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Yeah, just look at the Clinton brothers.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 13:33:41 (EDT)
My two cents are:
It's a matter of breeding.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 12:43:54 (EDT)
My two cents are:
ORLANDO, Fla., Sept. 10 - Gov. Jeb Bush�s daughter was found with cocaine at a rehabilitation center where she is undergoing drug treatment, police said Tuesday.
No, no, no I can't take it no more
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 11:55:42 (EDT)
My two cents are:
>"...The Corporate Security Office has elected to raise the Security Command Center status to condition YELLOW until further notice."
I never knew we had a Corporate Security Office - Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 10:06:59 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Alfred Habdank Skarbek Korzybski
1879-1950
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Perhaps the most overlooked theoretical influence on Frederick Perls and Paul Goodman, who originally articulated Gestalt therapy theory, was Alfred Korzybski, the primary thinker behind the general semantics movement. Gestalt therapy's "principle of the now" and it's focus on experience and the precision of language can be directly traced to these "principles of general semantics:"
1. A map is not the territory.
2. A map does not represent all of a territory.
3. A map is self-reflexive in the sense that an 'ideal' map would include a map of the map, etc., indefinitely.
Applied to daily life and language:
1. A word is not what it represents.
2. A word does not represent all of the 'facts', etc.
3. Language is self-reflexive in the sense that in language we can speak about language.
General Semantics
- Tuesday, September 10, 2002 at 00:18:42 (EDT)
My two cents are:
On the final night of the war--within hours of the cease-fire--two U.S. Air force bombers dropped specially designed 5,000-pound bombs on a command bunker fifteen miles northwest of Baghdad in a deliberate attempt to kill Saddam Hussein.
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 09, 2002 at 22:37:25 (EDT)
My two cents are:
They didn't kill him because the UN wouldn't have liked it.
Lee Hannland
- Monday, September 09, 2002 at 21:00:10 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The US failed to carry out the CIA plan to kill Saddam Hussein. The effort to kill Saddam came on a February 27, 1991 bombing mission by two F-117F bombers on the al-Taji air base, approximately 15 miles North West of Baghdad. Here Saddam was believed to be hiding in a bunker deep in the ground. The bunker was hit three times, but little damage was done; Saddam wasn't even there. ground war was planned to last 144 hours. Bush's decision to
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 09, 2002 at 17:29:14 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Hi!
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 09, 2002 at 17:23:36 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Hi..You may have seen this one already, but I think it's great:
The European Commission has just announced an agreement whereby English will
be the official language of the EU rather than German which was the other
possibility.
As part of the negotiations, Her Majesty's Government conceded that English
spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a 5 year phase-in
plan that would be known as "Euro-English".
In the first year, "s" will replace the soft "c". Sertainly, this will make
the sivil servants jump with Joy. The hard "c" will be dropped in favour of
the "k". This should klear up konfusion and keyboards kan have 1 less letter.
There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year, when the
troublesome "ph" will be replaced with "f". This will make words like
"fotograf" 20% shorter.
In the 3rd year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be ekspekted to
reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments will
enkorage the removal of double letters, which have always ben a deterent to
akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horible mes of the silent "e"s in
the language is disgraseful, and they should go away.
By the fourth year, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th"
with "z" and "w" with "v". During ze fifz year, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd
from vords kontaining "ou" and similar changes vud of kors be aplid to ozer
kombinations of leters.
After zis fifz yer, ve vil hav a reli sensibl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor
trubl or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi to understand ech ozer. Ze
drem vil finali kum tru! And zen ve vil tak over ze world!
Zeig Heil
- Monday, September 09, 2002 at 16:38:26 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Uh, he he, Beavis, uh, he he, what a rule of law? He he he he he
William Thomas Jefferson Hemmings Cliton
- Monday, September 09, 2002 at 16:33:00 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Oh yes we did.
George Herbert Walker Bush, The great
- Monday, September 09, 2002 at 16:32:03 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Autopete is a fucking liar too. Everybody knows it was the treasonous Powell and the homosexual Bush who chickened out. We didn't NEED UN authority to get Saddam.
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 09, 2002 at 16:14:31 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Not defendign Hanman here, but there was no resolution which allowed us to remove Saddam. We were only in there as the moving vehicle for the UN sanctions to evict Iraq's army from Kuwait. Get a brain. Doink.
Pete�
- Monday, September 09, 2002 at 15:56:09 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 09, 2002 at 15:55:59 (EDT)
My two cents are:
With all that body fat, you are as good as a dying elk in the snow to a young doe. You stud buck you! Did you slip any in for good measure?
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 09, 2002 at 15:54:53 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Went to a public star party this weekend. Even took a telescope along. There was young woman there. Her teeth shone white in the dark when she'd flash her pretty smile. Anyway, she started complaining about being cold. She asked me to feel and see how cold she was. Did I know she was cold here and over there? Feel it and see. Cold up here and down there too. She commented that I was very warm. Then she asked if I would mind warming her up. She said she was 25 but looked young enough to be a teenager. All I know is that if she was a transexual she has already gone under the knife. Then she left around eleven. Said she wanted to get home before her parents got back from the major league ball game.
ANONYMOUS
- Monday, September 09, 2002 at 15:14:26 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I say we pre-emptively impeach Snippy.
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 09, 2002 at 15:02:41 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Hanmland, you're fucking idiot and a liar. Show me a UN resolution that said we COULDN'T get Saddam.
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 09, 2002 at 14:54:02 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The "real" Pete is now in the Witless Protection Program along with Lee Hannland, whoever that is/was.
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 09, 2002 at 14:45:33 (EDT)
My two cents are:
If that's autopete, what happened to the "real" Pete?
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 09, 2002 at 14:44:18 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Mary, you should stop lying to your daughter. You know that the reason we didn't "get" Saddam before was becuause of the UN resolutions under which the war was being fought had no provisions for capture or toppling your beloved dictator.
Lee Hannland
- Monday, September 09, 2002 at 14:44:01 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Autopete is pretty funny.
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 09, 2002 at 14:43:40 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Yes, Mary it is. The proof is in the pudding. You are an admitted demonrat. Therefore, a liar. Nothing you say should be accepted as truth. End of Story. Doink.
Pete�
- Monday, September 09, 2002 at 14:32:30 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The senior administration official says the White House was assured the Bush daughters, who are college students, would be only a small part of the story. But the piece led off with an anecdote about how their Secret Service coverage was changed after a "furious" Jenna Bush "berated" two agents whose presence had persuaded a bartender to refuse to sell her liquor last summer.
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 09, 2002 at 14:28:33 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Dr. J
I've Got Jism
In this fast and troubled world
We sometimes lose our way
But I am never lost
I feel this way because...
I got jism,
I got man milk,
I got my wad -
Who could ask for anything more?
I got cum stains,
On blue desses,
I got my wad -
Who could ask for anything more?
- Monday, September 09, 2002 at 13:20:42 (EDT)
My two cents are:
In an interview published Monday in The New York Times, French President Jacques Chirac condemned as "extraordinarily dangerous" a pre-emptive U.S. strike against Iraq.
"As soon as one nation claims the right to take preventive action, other countries will naturally do the same," the French president said. "If we go down that road, where are we going?"
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 09, 2002 at 11:29:13 (EDT)
My two cents are:
BLAIR ON IRAQ
MISREPRESENTS PHOTO EVIDENCE TO GET BRIT SUPPORT
OUTRAGEOUS EFFORT TO SUCKER WORLD/US OPINION!
BUSH'S GULF OF TONKIN?
ANOTHER HIT FOR US CREDIBILITY WORLDWIDE
BLAIR "DEEPLY EMBARRASSED"
CHICKENHAWK CHENEY'S FINGERPRINTS
CALLS FOR SENATE INVESTIGATION
HALLIBURTON DIPLOMACY
THEY COOKED THE BOOKS - NOW THEY COOK THE PHOTOS
The George W. Bush Administration is today embroiled in what may be the greatest scandal yet in its brief history -- successfully getting support from Britain's Prime Minister Tony Blair for an imminent attack of Iraq on the basis of a blatantly phony reading of intelligence photographs and of an old report from U.N. atomic energy agency.
"I don't know what more evidence we need," Bush said, brandishing the photos in front of the British leader, and claiming that the 1998 U.N. report said that Saddam Hussein was six months away from building nuclear weapons.
Blair fell for it.
But as NBC reports, and the Washington Post confirms, the U.N. report in question emphatically did NOT say what Bush claimed it did.
As for the photos, there was and is, contrary to news reports, no specific building that caused any concern, according to the U.N. agency that released the pictures. Although the photos -- taken by a commercial enterprise -- show new construction, there is NO evidence that it is related to new nuclear-related operations in Iraq.
In preparations for Bush's September 12 speech to the U.N., the Administration appears to have taken a leaf from the Cuban missile crisis forty years ago, when Ambassador Adlai Stevenson provided incontrovertible proof from intelligence photographs that the Soviets had placed nuclear weapons in Cuba.
But Stevenson's photos were authentic, undoctored, and clear proof.
The Bush photos have no clear proof of anything. The Bushies are just making it up!
Sources in London tell MWO that Prime Minister Blair, who fell for the ruse, has been "very embarrassed" by the incident.
In Washington, expert observers pointed out that the shill bears the fingerprints of Vice President Dick Cheney. Last month, Cheney delivered a hawkish speech to the Veterans of Foreign Wars, charging that only an attack on Iraq right now would rid the world of the Hussein menace. Now, say observers, Cheney and his supporters may be trying to find whatever evidence they can, and skew it if necessary, to back up his case.
"Look, Dick Cheney cooked the books when he was head of Halliburton," one expert, who declined to be identified for this article, said. "Now he's cooking the photos on Iraq. Looks like Cheney's work."
The scandal is all the more worrisome because it confuses the legitimate concerns about Hussein. There is no question that the Iraqi leader possesses some weapons of mass destruction, which he has deployed in the past. But trying to sway world opinion about Hussein with phony reports and trumped-up "evidence" only makes the search for the terrible truth about Hussein more difficult -- and only makes the world, as well as the American people, more wary than ever of the secretive, mendacity-prone Bush team.
Instead of George W. Bush's Cuban Missile Crisis, it's beginning to look like his Gulf of Tonkin -- a phony pretext for going to war right away. The precedent is disastrous.
In Washington, veteran observers have suggested that the Senate Foreign Relations Committee might now have no choice but to investigate this incident thoroughly -- to get to the bottom of how and why the Bush Administration used doctored reports and misleading photographic evidence to try and push its case.
Not since the Vietnam era has any White House created such a huge credibility gap as the George W. Bush Administration has. But whereas it took the country -- and the Senate Foreign Relations Committee -- several years before they woke up to the official lying about Vietnam, the truth about the Bush Administration's lying has begun to be exposed before the first shot is fired.
Capitol Hill veterans tell MWO that Senator Joe Biden is, or at least ought to be, outraged at this shocker. Not only does it affect the current crisis over Iraq -- it badly compromises the credibility of the United States on all issues of global concern.
First Cheney Cooked the Books--Now He Cooks the Pix and Sells Them To Blair. Blair is Pissed.
- Monday, September 09, 2002 at 10:57:46 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I mean, why not take out Qaddafi? He actually bombed a coupla planes, hey? Why does he get a free pass? Let's make a nice list of people we really need to bomb.
Anonymous.
- Monday, September 09, 2002 at 10:53:11 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Yeah, why don't we just cut a deal with this Saddam? He seems more reasonable than the ones who wear robes beards.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 08, 2002 at 23:22:25 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Who turned that post into urinefont? Excellent. Meanwhile, all you Perleist jismers need to keep trying to take out the enemy of Iran, so that fundamentalist Islam can take over another country. Insh'Allah. And all that. Just ask 40 year old Maid Ann and her Abdullah.
oy
- Sunday, September 08, 2002 at 23:00:48 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Although it is hard to separate Snippy's gooberism from his Republicanism. He's a goober therefore he's a Republican and vice versa.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 08, 2002 at 22:41:01 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Revealed: The Taliban minister, the US envoy and the warning of September 11 that was ignored.
another dot, a big dot
- Sunday, September 08, 2002 at 22:38:54 (EDT)
My two cents are:
No, Pete. It is not because of the political party of Bush. Why would that matter? We are talking about America. It is because if we are wrong, the world will believe what the Arab world is saying about the U.S. We will appear as the bully, the aggressor. This has to be about self-defense. Otherwise, it will be viewed as vindication for Bush's father. His own father says it best...
"A world once divided into two armed camps
now recognizes one sole and pre-eminent power, the United States of America. And they regard this with no dread. For the
world trusts us with power, and the world is right. They trust us to be fair, and restrained. They trust us to be on the side of decency. They trust us to do what's right."
George Bush, 1992
Mary
- Sunday, September 08, 2002 at 22:37:37 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Autopete sees irony? Can that be true? Of course not. HA! This is autopete we're talking about. Merely the random juxtaposition of words on the spreadsheet.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 08, 2002 at 21:45:54 (EDT)
My two cents are:
And yes, I do see the irony of a one-dimensional cartoon character like me calling YOU one-dimensional. Double doink. - Sunday, September 08, 2002 at 18:24:04 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Mary, stop sounding so stupid. You know the ONLY reason you are questioning Bush's need to defend OUR lives is because he is a Republican. Something you despise in your idiocy. Why not focus on Tony Blair, your socialist icon. Even HE knows it is only a matter of time before they nuke, gas or send a virus. It is not if, but when. Soon. Grow a brain. You really are one dimensional. Doink.
- Sunday, September 08, 2002 at 17:37:06 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Mary, stop sounding so stupid. You know the ONLY reason you are questioning Bush's need to defend OUR lives is because he is a Republican. Something you despise in your idiocy. Why not focus on Tony Blair, your socialist icon. Even HE knows it is only a matter of time before they nuke, gas or send a virus. It is not if, but when. Soon. Grow a brain. You really are one dimensional. Doink.
Pete�
- Sunday, September 08, 2002 at 17:36:40 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Geesh, it looks like Snippy lied about Iraq's nuclear arsenal. Probably did it to protect the twins.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 08, 2002 at 14:45:09 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I believe that Bush only reason to do a "pre-emptive" strike on Iraq is to redeem his daddy. The evidence is not clear and indisputable. If we invade Iraq we should demand evidence beyond a shadow of a doubt. Nothing less. If Bush fails to prove the case for war we need to stop it.
Mary
- Sunday, September 08, 2002 at 14:38:39 (EDT)
My two cents are:
http://www.msnbc.com/news/802167.asp
Anonymous.
- Sunday, September 08, 2002 at 13:57:58 (EDT)
My two cents are:
They did focus on his massive schlong. That's what's still pissing off the pubbies--penis envy. Big-time.
Captain Social Analyst
- Sunday, September 08, 2002 at 10:39:15 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Yo, dudes and dudettes, previous references being to the non-Tri-State inhabitant, and late French writer Roland Barthes, perhaps?
CAPTAIN GERUNDIVE SUBJUNCTIVE DESCENDING A STAIRCASE
- Sunday, September 08, 2002 at 10:34:01 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Yo, dude, Californians have no clue about the frickin Tri-State area. Unless they're transplanted from--which three states were you referring to? I'd call this gourd posing as our fine Ho-Houm.
Carl "Mr." Rogers
- Sunday, September 08, 2002 at 10:28:59 (EDT)
My two cents are:
If Weismueller and Gable hadn't been in league with Precott Bush and the other Nazi sympathizers of the pre-McCarthy U.S. KKK era, those damn jews at MGM could have put together a decent cast. As it all ended up, J. Edgar had to try and vacuum out the West Wing in a dress Lucille Ball would have called tacky and would probably never have taken the ride of her life on Striesand's nose. Instead, we got Woody Allen trying t glue the pages of Fear of Flying together with his insecure and inadequate dribblings. All in all, I can see why the lberal media takes a hit. They should have just focused on Clinton's massive schlong bumping over lectern after lectern after lectern. Or was that intern after intern after intern????
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 07, 2002 at 23:58:31 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 07, 2002 at 23:46:52 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"The African Queen" was perhaps the worst film ever made. Weismueller would have cried, crocodile tears maybem bur cried. have ye no shame?
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 07, 2002 at 23:32:11 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Barth was a social critic, frog or at least frog-tentiousious I presume that found some black and white sketches of "O' and her submissive ear done as a cartoon that were quite good. I recall telling a prof at one point that that all this semiotic shit was a bag of fucking crap and that I could spit out the same level shit in an instant. He asked me to prove it and I looked him in the eye and said "In spite of it scientific name, the rose continued to bloom" You see it wasn't that there was anything special about it, just the juxtaposition causes a momentary quizical impetuosity - no more than than that.
Johnny Cochran <Again>
- Saturday, September 07, 2002 at 23:29:40 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I've taken to watching alot of flicks and recently visited an abandoned amusement park once frequented by Johnny Weissmullur. How is Weismueller spelled, specifically? spell.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 07, 2002 at 23:21:44 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The Story of O was an intereesting piece, I read a number of semiotic analyses as well as rubbing myself basically raw for about a week. It wasn't de Sade by any means.... The key to "O" I finally decided was in Raymond Barth's analysis - that it was the ear that was truly erotic, the sound, the voice, the commuication, more so than anything else it was language that became the ultimate conveyor of domination, submission and the rest of the tale. That whispering into the ear, the power of the word, the simple tinge of the word, the one thng neither Pete nor Glorp can master or even intrigue with a woman.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 07, 2002 at 23:16:43 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Yes, you traitor, the Tri-State Area. Where were you on 911? Africa? Geesh!
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 07, 2002 at 23:15:01 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Tri-State area?
Carl "Mr." Rogers
- Saturday, September 07, 2002 at 23:06:55 (EDT)
My two cents are:
How can we be sure you're Ho-Hum, Ho-hum?
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 07, 2002 at 23:05:04 (EDT)
My two cents are:
It's about Iraq because it's always about Iraq. At least always since we stopped helping him acquire weapons and approved of his use of chemical warfare. It's also about Iraq because there are a lot of near-senile, always dangerous, corrupt relics from the last 40 years of Republicanism in the administration* who desperately need to change the subject and will use a Tri-State Area tragedy as an excuse to blow things up and re-set all the shit they've caused before. This is what keeps Republicanism alive. This and the looting.
Ho-hum
SF, - Saturday, September 07, 2002 at 21:50:42 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Then why only Iraq? Is Hussein a much more imminent danger than North Korea? Pakistan and India are not hostile to the U.S., are they? I was under the impression that the countries other than Iraq, including Libya, had much more stable leaders. That only Hussein was insane enough not to consider the consequence,that it would be suicide. I was told that North Korea is part of the 'evil' Bush wants to eradicate, so I don't know, maybe Cheney and company are drawing up plans to invade North Korea and just haven't had the PR done on them yet.
Mary
- Saturday, September 07, 2002 at 19:43:43 (EDT)
My two cents are:
India and Pakistan will be happy to use their weapons. North Korea, too. Why ever not? Does Snippy think he needs to give his permission? Ha ha.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 07, 2002 at 19:36:43 (EDT)
My two cents are:
How can we be sure you're the real Mary, Mary?
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 07, 2002 at 19:35:37 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I was telling my daughter that most likely we will go to war with Iraq. She asked me why, and I gave her the official reason. That Saddam Hussein is a madman and unpredictable, and supposedly was acquiring nuclear weapons. That the world wasn't safe if he were to get them, unlike China, United States, Russia, Israel, Pakistan, India, North Korea and perhaps Libya. I told her the U.S. and the world doesn't consider any of these countries as rogue nations, that their leaders wouldn't be likely to actually "use" their weapons. The only one who poses a threat of using the weapons, even though it would be suicide for Iraq, is Hussein. She agreed if he was that dangerous then we had to go to war. But wanted to know what the goal was this time. How we would get Hussein,what we would do with him if we managed to get him, if he had anyone who would hide or protect him, like Osama Bin Laden. She wanted to know if the Arab world would come out against us. Then she asked why we didn't get him the first time. I said that he kept going from bunker to bunker, that we tried but didn't want to escalate Iraq to a ground war. Suddenly she said, heck we haven't even got Osama Bin Laden. We didn't even get Hitler he killed himself. What makes Bush think he can get Hussein. My daughter is 22, so she isn't a child. But I thought that was very astute of her to realize the obvious. Who actually thought we would not have Osama bin Laden by now on September 11?
Mary
- Saturday, September 07, 2002 at 18:48:07 (EDT)
My two cents are:
You're right. Dare I say--a little bit nutty, and a little bit slutty?
understatement
- Saturday, September 07, 2002 at 18:24:53 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Not much of a ladies' man.
Alpha Male
- Saturday, September 07, 2002 at 18:22:15 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Ah, Pete. Always trying to pick a fight with a female. Typical. Truth. Doinkerz.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 07, 2002 at 17:20:53 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Yes. An autopetian rant.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 07, 2002 at 16:53:20 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Autopete strikes again.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 07, 2002 at 16:10:08 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Yeah, the usual gnatian rant. Give it up. No one with even half a brain would reach your dim wattage. Doink.
Pete�
- Saturday, September 07, 2002 at 15:31:56 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The best way to prevent forest fires is not to have any more forests.
End O. Story
- Saturday, September 07, 2002 at 14:34:26 (EDT)
My two cents are:
It is 10 months since 11 September, and still the great charade plays on. Having appropriated our shocked response to that momentous day, the rulers of the world have since ground our language into a paean of cliches and lies about the 'war on terrorism' - when the most enduring menace, and source of terror, is them.
The fanatics who attacked America came from Saudi Arabia and Egypt. No bombs fell on these American protectorates. Instead, more than 5,000 civilians have been bombed to death in stricken Afghanistan, the latest a wedding party of 40 people, mostly women and children. Not a single al-Qaeda leader of importance has been caught.
Following this 'stunning victory', hundreds of prisoners were shipped to an American concentration camp in Cuba, where they have been held against all the conventions of war and international law. No evidence of their alleged crimes has been produced, and the FBI confirms only one is a genuine suspect. In the United States, more than 1,000 people of Muslim background have 'disappeared'; none has been charged. Under the draconian Patriot Act, the FBI's new powers include the authority to go into libraries and ask who is reading what.
Meanwhile, the Blair government has made fools of the British Army by insisting they pursue warring tribesmen: exactly what squaddies in putties and pith helmets did over a century ago when Lord Curzon, Viceroy of India, described Afghanistan as one of the 'pieces on a chessboard upon which is being played out a great game for the domination of the world'.
There is no war on terrorism; it is the great game speeded up. The difference is the rampant nature of the superpower, ensuring infinite dangers for us all.
Having swept the Palestinians into the arms of the supreme terrorist Ariel Sharon, the Christian Right fundamentalists running the plutocracy in Washington, now replenish their arsenal in preparation for an attack on the 22 million suffering people of Iraq. Should anyone need reminding, Iraq is a nation held hostage to an American-led embargo every bit as barbaric as the dictatorship over which Iraqis have no control. Contrary to propaganda orchestrated from Washington and London, the coming attack has nothing to do with Saddam Hussein's 'weapons of mass destruction', if these exist at all. The reason is that America wants a more compliant thug to run the world's second greatest source of oil.
The drum-beaters rarely mention this truth, and the people of Iraq. Everyone is Saddam Hussein, the demon of demons. Four years ago, the Pentagon warned President Clinton that an all-out attack on Iraq might kill 'at least' 10,000 civilians: that, too, is unmentionable. In a sustained propaganda campaign to justify this outrage, journalists on both sides of the Atlantic have been used as channels, 'conduits', for a stream of rumours and lies. These have ranged from false claims about an Iraqi connection with the anthrax attacks in America to a discredited link between the leader of the 11 September hijacks and Iraqi intelligence. When the attack comes, these consorting journalists will share responsibility for the crime.
It was Tony Blair who served notice that imperialism's return journey to respectability was under way. Hark, the Christian gentleman-bomber's vision of a better world for 'the starving, the wretched, the dispossessed, the ignorant, those living in want and squalor from the deserts of northern Africa to the slums of Gaza to the mountain ranges of Afghanistan.' Hark, his 'abiding' concern for the 'human rights of the suffering women of Afghanistan' as he colluded with Bush who, as the New York Times reported, 'demanded the elimination of truck convoys that provide much of the food and other supplies to Afghanistan's civilian population'. Hark his compassion for the 'dispossessed' in the 'slums of Gaza', where Israeli gunships, manufactured with vital British parts, fire their missiles into crowded civilian areas.
As Frank Furedi reminds us in The New Ideology of Imperialism , it is not long ago 'that the moral claims of imperialism were seldom questioned in the West. Imperialism and the global expansion of the western powers were represented in unambiguously positive terms as a major contributor to human civilisation.' The quest went wrong when it was clear that fascism was imperialism, too, and the word vanished from academic discourse. In the best Stalinist tradition, imperialism no longer existed. Today, the preferred euphemism is 'civilisation'; or if an adjective is required, 'cultural'.
>From Italy's Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, an ally of crypto-fascists, to impeccably liberal commentators, the new imperialists share a concept whose true meaning relies on a xenophobic or racist comparison with those who are deemed uncivilised, culturally inferior and might challenge the 'values' of the West. Watch the 'debates' on Newsnight. The question is how best 'we' can deal with the problem of 'them'.
For much of the western media, especially those commentators in thrall to and neutered by the supercult of America, the most salient truths remain taboos. Professor Richard Falk, of Cornell university, put it succinctly some years ago. Western foreign policy, he wrote, is propagated in the media 'through a self righteous, one-way moral/legal screen [with] positive images of western values and innocence portrayed as threatened, validating a campaign of unrestricted violence'.
Perhaps the most important taboo is the longevity of the United States as both a terrorist state and a haven for terrorists. That the US is the only state on record to have been condemned by the World Court for international terrorism (in Nicaragua) and has vetoed a UN Security Council resolution calling on governments to observe international law, is unmentionable.
'In the war against terrorism,' said Bush from his bunker following 11 September, 'we're going to hunt down these evil-doers wherever they are, no matter how long it takes.'
Strictly speaking, it should not take long, as more terrorists are given training and sanctuary in the United States than anywhere on earth. They include mass murderers, torturers, former and future tyrants and assorted international criminals. This is virtually unknown to the American public, thanks to the freest media on earth.
There is no terrorist sanctuary to compare with Florida, currently governed by the President's brother, Jeb Bush. In his book Rogue State , former senior State Department official Bill Blum describes a typical Florida trial of three anti-Castro terrorists, who hijacked a plane to Miami at knifepoint. 'Even though the kidnapped pilot was brought back from Cuba to testify against the men,' he wrote, 'the defence simply told the jurors the man was lying, and the jury deliberated for less than an hour before acquitting the defendants.'
General Jose Guillermo Garcia has lived comfortably in Florida since the 1990s. He was head of El Salvador's military during the 1980s when death squads with ties to the army murdered thousands of people. General Prosper Avril, the Haitian dictator, liked to display the bloodied victims of his torture on television. When he was overthrown, he was flown to Florida by the US Government. Thiounn Prasith, Pol Pot's henchman and apologist at the United Nations, lives in New York. General Mansour Moharari, who ran the Shah of Iran's notorious prisons, is wanted in Iran, but untroubled in the United States.
Al-Qaeda's training camps in Afghanistan were kindergartens compared with the world's leading university of terrorism at Fort Benning in Georgia. Known until recently as the School of the Americas, it trained tyrants and some 60,000 Latin American special forces, paramilitaries and intelligence agents in the black arts of terrorism.
In 1993, the UN Truth Commission on El Salvador named the army officers who had committed the worst atrocities of the civil war; two-thirds of them had been trained at Fort Benning. In Chile, the school's graduates ran Pinochet's secret police and three principal concentration camps. In 1996, the US government was forced to release copies of the school's training manuals, which recommended blackmail, torture, execution and the arrest of witnesses' relatives.
In recent months, the Bush regime has torn up the Kyoto treaty, which would ease global warming, to which the United States is the greatest contributor. It has threatened the use of nuclear weapons in 'pre-emptive' strikes (a threat echoed by Defence Minister Geoffrey Hoon). It has tried to abort the birth of an international criminal court. It has further undermined the United Nations by blocking a UN investigation of the Israeli assault on a Palestinian refugee camp; and it has ordered the Palestinians to replace their elected leader with an American stooge. At summit conferences in Canada and Indonesia, Bush's people have blocked hundreds of millions of dollars going to the most deprived people on earth, those without clean water and electricity.
These facts will no doubt beckon the inane slur of 'anti-Americanism'. This is the imperial prerogative: the last refuge of those whose contortion of intellect and morality demands a loyalty oath. As Noam Chomsky has pointed out, the Nazis silenced argument and criticism with 'anti German' slurs. Of course, the United States is not Germany; it is the home of some of history's greatest civil rights movements, such as the epic movement in the 1960s and 1970s.
I was in the US last week and glimpsed that other America, the one rarely seen among the media and Hollywood stereotypes, and what was clear was that it was stirring again. The other day, in an open letter to their compatriots and the world, almost 100 of America's most distinguished names in art, literature and education wrote this:
'Let it not be said that people in the United States did nothing when their government declared a war without limit and instituted stark new measures of repression. We believe that questioning, criticism and dissent must be valued and protected. Such rights are always contested and must be fought for. We, too, watched with shock the horrific events of September 11. But the mourning had barely begun when our leaders launched a spirit of revenge. The government now openly prepares to wage war on Iraq - a country that has no connection with September 11.
'We say this to the world. Too many times in history people have waited until it was too late to resist. We draw on the inspiration of those who fought slavery and all those other great causes of freedom that began with dissent. We call on all like-minded people around the world to join us.'
It is time we joined them.
Stupid is As Stupid Bush Does
- Saturday, September 07, 2002 at 14:33:16 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Pete makes a great point in noting that Snip does not favor the logging industry. He just wants to stop forest fires.
Smokey the Bear
- Saturday, September 07, 2002 at 14:26:12 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Watch Snippy waffle on Iraq.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, September 07, 2002 at 14:12:19 (EDT)
My two cents are:
It was a kinder, gentler time. If Snippy had been governor back then, Laura would have fried.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 23:32:44 (EDT)
My two cents are:
It's odd to see a masculine woman who's so emaciated.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 23:31:36 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Why wasn't vehicular homicidal maniac Laura Bush nee Welch tried as an adult for her senseless murder? NO STANDARDS, NONE!
none dare call it treason
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 23:29:52 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Yeah, you're gonna have to pry that princely Saudi asshole off of Snippy's cold dead lips.
Stupid is As Stupid Does, and Snippy Does Suck
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 23:23:04 (EDT)
My two cents are:
ALTERMAN EVISCERATES ANN 'THRAX' COULTER, 40
Devil in a Blue Dress
Eric Alterman
"My only regret with Osama bin Laden is that he did not manage to kill every member of the Wall Street Journal editorial staff."
"In this recurring nightmare of a presidency, we have a national debate about [George W. Bush's stolen presidency].... Otherwise there would be debates only about whether to impeach or assassinate."
"We need to execute people like Ann Coulter in order to physically intimidate conservatives, by making them realize that they can be killed too. Otherwise they will turn out to be outright traitors."
First things first: Mr. Ashcroft, if you're there, I do not mean any of the statements above to be taken literally. ...
It's degrading to have to write about Coulter again. As a pundit, she is about on a par with Charles Manson, better suited to a lifelong stay in the Connecticut Home for the Criminally Insane than for the host's seat on Crossfire. Her books are filled with lies, slander and phony footnotes that are themselves lies and slanders. Her very existence as a public figure is an insult to our collective intelligence. I should really be writing about the campaign by neocon chickenhawks to intimidate Howell Raines and the New York Times on Iraq. But fortunately, John Judis and Nick Confessore have taken responsibility for that, leaving me to the less ominous but more baffling phenomenon of the bestselling Barbie-doll terrorist-apologist, who continues to be celebrated by the very media she terms "retarded" and guilty of "mass murder" while calling for their mass extinction by the likes of her ideological comrade Timothy McVeigh.
Make no mistake. Coulter may routinely call for the murder of liberals, of Arabs, of journalists, of the President, among many others. She may compare adorable Katie Couric to Eva Braun and Joseph Goebbels and joke about blowing up the Times building. But instead of ignoring, laughing at or, perhaps most usefully, sedating her, we find Coulter's blond locks and bony ass celebrated by talk-show bookers and gossip columnists--even a genuine book reviewer--from coast to proverbial coast. Well, not celebrated. Who can celebrate a 40 year old old maid.
Old Maids and Omega Males
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 23:21:19 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Before that can happen, Snippy is going to have to pry his lip from the asshole of whichever Saudi prince he's rimming this week.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 22:06:20 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Which brings up the issue of wheter it's really wise to go after Saddam at all. Why not attack Saudi Arabia instead? They are soft and have no army to speak of and it would be an easy task. The Saudis have more oil than Saddam and we already have military bases there. I doubt Saddam would unleash his massive amounts of weaponry of mass destruction with the good old USA as a next door neighbor.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 21:42:58 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I disagree. Until the Bush's bring back Saddam's head on a platter again, AND the scalp of Osama bin Laden, there can be no atonement!
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 21:39:37 (EDT)
My two cents are:
So what? The Patriot Act more than atones for any past Bush family killings.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 20:00:37 (EDT)
My two cents are:
In 1977 and 1978, the government released nearly 100,000 pages of documents on the Kennedy assassination. One which slipped out by mistake was from the FBI to the State Department written a few days after the assassination. The State Department was worried that anti-Castro groups in Miami might stage another invasion of Cuba in the aftermath of the JFK murder. The FBI informed them that they had questioned both pro-Castro and anti-Castro groups and could find no information about such plans. The memo went on to state that the information was passed along to "George Bush of the Central Intelligence Agency" the day after the assassination.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 19:52:51 (EDT)
My two cents are:
On Nov. 6, 1963, then-17 year-old Laura Welch was driving with a friend on a Midland, Texas highway. In a cruel twist of fate, her high school boyfriend Michael Douglas, a popular football star, had just entered one of the town's most dangerous intersections driving another vehichle, when Laura's car slammed into it.
Douglas suffered a broken neck and was DOA at Midland Memorial hospital. Laura was unhurt while a girlfriend riding with her suffered only minor injuries. Exacerbating the tragedy, Douglas' dad was following his son in a separate car and came upon the accident scene immediately after it happened.
Just a couple weeks before George H.W. Bush helped assassinate President Kennedy - Ah, Texas!
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 19:47:35 (EDT)
My two cents are:
In 1963, at the age of 17, Laura Bush caused an automobile accident that took the life of her schoolmate and friend. She had driven through a stop sign and hit the vehicle in which Michael Douglas was driving.
See, she was just a child of 17!
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 19:40:18 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Mo Mowlam was a member of Tony Blair's cabinet from 1997-2001
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 18:54:45 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The Guardian. Paranoid British socialsit flap. Should be an arm of Al-Jazzeera. Moron.
Pete�
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 18:49:51 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 18:48:51 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 18:48:14 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Well, Dr. J, if it is Cliton's CUM down the sink, I'll defer to Moanica.
Pete�
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 18:48:12 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The real goal is the seizure of Saudi oil
Iraq is no threat. Bush wants war to keep US control of the region
Mo Mowlam
Thursday September 5, 2002
The Guardian
I keep listening to the words coming from the Bush administration about Iraq and I become increasingly alarmed. There seems to be such confusion, but through it all a grim determination that they are, at some point, going to launch a military attack. The response of the British government seems equally confused, but I just hope that the determination to ultimately attack Iraq does not form the bedrock of their policy. It is hard now to see how George Bush can withdraw his bellicose words and also save face, but I hope that that is possible. Otherwise I fear greatly for the Middle East, but also for the rest of the world.
What is most chilling is that the hawks in the Bush administration must know the risks involved. They must be aware of the anti-American feeling throughout the Middle East. They must be aware of the fear in Egypt and Saudi Arabia that a war against Iraq could unleash revolutions, disposing of pro-western governments, and replacing them with populist anti-American Islamist fundamentalist regimes. We should all remember the Islamist revolution in Iran. The Shah was backed by the Americans, but he couldn't stand against the will of the people. And it is because I am sure that they fully understand the consequences of their actions, that I am most afraid. I am drawn to the conclusion that they must want to create such mayhem.
The many words that are uttered about Saddam Hussein having weapons of mass destruction, which are never substantiated with any hard evidence, seem to mean very little. Even if Saddam had such weapons, why would he wish to use them? He knows that if he moves to seize the oilfields in neighbouring countries the full might of the western world will be ranged against him. He knows that if he attacks Israel the same fate awaits him. Comparisons with Hitler are silly - Hitler thought he could win; Saddam knows he cannot. Even if he has nuclear weapons he cannot win a war against America. The United States can easily contain him. They do not need to try and force him to irrationality.
But that is what Bush seems to want to do. Why is he so determined to take the risk? The key country in the Middle East, as far as the Americans are concerned, is Saudi Arabia: the country with the largest oil reserves in the world, the country that has been prepared to calm the oil markets, producing more when prices are too high and less when there is a glut. The Saudi royal family has been rewarded with best friend status by the west for its cooperation. There has been little concern that the government is undemocratic and breaches human rights, nor that it is in the grip of an extreme form of Islam. With American support it has been believed that the regime can be protected and will do what is necessary to secure a supply of oil to the west at reasonably stable prices.
Since September 11, however, it has become increasingly apparent to the US administration that the Saudi regime is vulnerable. Both on the streets and in the leading families, including the royal family, there are increasingly anti-western voices. Osama bin Laden is just one prominent example. The love affair with America is ending. Reports of the removal of billions of dollars of Saudi investment from the United States may be difficult to quantify, but they are true. The possibility of the world's largest oil reserves falling into the hands of an anti-American, militant Islamist government is becoming ever more likely - and this is unacceptable.
The Americans know they cannot stop such a revolution. They must therefore hope that they can control the Saudi oil fields, if not the government. And what better way to do that than to have a large military force in the field at the time of such disruption. In the name of saving the west, these vital assets could be seized and controlled. No longer would the US have to depend on a corrupt and unpopular royal family to keep it supplied with cheap oil. If there is chaos in the region, the US armed forces could be seen as a global saviour. Under cover of the war on terrorism, the war to secure oil supplies could be waged.
This whole affair has nothing to do with a threat from Iraq - there isn't one. It has nothing to do with the war against terrorism or with morality. Saddam Hussein is obviously an evil man, but when we were selling arms to him to keep the Iranians in check he was the same evil man he is today. He was a pawn then and is a pawn now. In the same way he served western interests then, he is now the distraction for the sleight of hand to protect the west's supply of oil. And where does this leave the British government? Are they in on the plan or just part of the smokescreen? The government speaks of morality and the threat posed by weapons of mass destruction, but can they really believe it?
� Mo Mowlam was a member of Tony Blair's cabinet from 1997-2001
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 18:29:33 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Okay,okay. Clinton killed Willey's cat. This makes up for Laura Bush's "driving record" which involved killing a human being.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 18:17:00 (EDT)
My two cents are:
George W. Bush has a police blotter?????
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 17:42:48 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Does Laura Bush even have a criminal record? Pretty incredible how the dims compare her teenage driving record and George's quarter century old police blotter with the goings on of the Clinton's right under the White House roof! Like comparing peas and watermelons.
Glint
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 17:22:38 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Laura Bush is a convicted killer?
doubt IT!
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 17:12:15 (EDT)
My two cents are:
What a great way to kick off the weekend. Another scumbag Democrat goes to jail, this time in RI. Good riddance and may all the rest of your cum hiding boot lickers join you, Mayor Vincent "Buddy" Cianci. Now, bend over and take your Doinking!
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 17:11:25 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Laura Bush is a convicted killer. Outside of that, she's clean.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 17:08:13 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Of course with the price of CUM down the toilet - or at least in the sink - perhaps now is a good time to buy. What would you say, Pete?
Dr. J
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 16:58:16 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Does anybody have any CUM? If you do, I suggest that based on the one year data perhaps now is a good time to sell your CUM.
Glint
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 16:55:20 (EDT)
My two cents are:
As far as I know, Willard and Hitlary Clinton are the first president* and first lady* to each have been investigated by an independant counsel.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 16:45:05 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Laura has a criminal record?
DOUBT IT!
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 16:42:59 (EDT)
My two cents are:
As far as I know, Snippy and Laura Bush are the first president* and first lady* to each have criminal records.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 16:42:10 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"...Billboards reading "Be a Patriot" will be displayed in more than 60 visible locations statewide according to a statement from State Assembly Speaker Herb Wesson (D-Culver City)." I just hope they're not lighted billboards.
Glint
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 16:10:31 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Wait a minute. Laura can drive just as good as Ted.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 15:46:31 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Better Pink than any Bush.
Jeb and W have 3 substance abuser loser kids--Clintons get a Stanford grad winner.
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 15:34:58 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Of course the Kennedys can drink. They're Irish and it's their birthright. The Bushes are playing catch-up and doing a damn good job of it according to the most recent police blotters. The twins are probably juicing it up to punish Snippy for his lies about his own arrest record.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 15:19:54 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Too fucjking bad if the Venezuelan feels excluded by Americans flying an American flag. Give me a farking break!!!! Bring on the falklands Part Deux.
Anonymous.
Just another example of how Cal Bezerkley's PC mindset interrupts allr ational thought. Idiots! - Friday, September 06, 2002 at 15:16:35 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Don't forget that the Kennedys can drink too.
only problem is they can't drive.
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 15:12:55 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Don't know, but they can drink.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 15:08:22 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Can the Bush lushes sing?
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 14:54:54 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Parents should encourage their kids to emulate the Bush twins, not Pink.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 14:49:25 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Someone must have liked her if she got the award for best female video.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 14:42:06 (EDT)
My two cents are:
...AMID last week's cultural atrocity known as the MTV Video Awards, an ugly trend emerged: More than one young female music star boasted - live, on-stage - of being drunk.
Accepting the award for Best Female Video, Pink - the 23-year-old singer - slurred her speech and told all her little girl fans, "I'm too drunk for this."
Wow!
No one over the age of 21 listens to either of these artists. So exactly who are their tough-girl, party-animal comments supposed to impress?
Young girls.
And that's a problem.
No doubt, many of Pink's fans wanted to emulate their idol that night. And if not that night, you can bet they'll feel very in-the-'Pink' some day soon.
no wonder she sings like a cat squished under a trick tire
too bad one of her young girl fans hang out here - Friday, September 06, 2002 at 14:37:00 (EDT)
My two cents are:
A Brief History of the U.S. Navy Jack
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 14:23:26 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Iraq attack: Ritter's reversal (link) - Friday, September 06, 2002 at 14:10:35 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"...In 1984 the future president's mother described her husband's challenger for the vice presidency, Geraldine Ferraro, as a word that 'rhymes with rich.' To calm the uproar, she later said she meant 'witch,' and not the word everybody instinctively assumed..."
Go Barb go! <Captain History Book>
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 14:03:32 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Sounds like a good plan...
Glint
Pentagon considers a hit before buildup
By Rowan Scarborough
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
The U.S. military would need 60 to 90 days to put a
full invasion force of troops, tanks, ships and warplanes
in position to attack Iraq, if President Bush authorizes an
assault to topple Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein.
But the president could authorize a different kind of
military buildup. Rather than following the World War II
doctrine of positioning forces for months before attacking,
the United States could begin an assault with forces now in
the region, then bring in more troops.
About 100 U.S. and British aircraft yesterday took
part in an attack on a major Iraqi air-defense
installation, in the biggest single operation over the
country in four years, the London Daily Telegraph reported.
Twelve warplanes dropped precision-guided bombs in the
raid, but scores of other support aircraft also took part
in the attack in western Iraq.
The aim of using assault forces in the region before a
full buildup would be to gain tactical advantage so that
Saddam would not have time to order retaliatory strikes
using chemical and biological weapons.
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 13:55:12 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Forget snarking the commute to Palo Alto. If you really want to rile Americans snark the commute to Disneyland.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 13:49:21 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"So what's Carter's plan, crash land a hand full of choppers in Baghdad?
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 13:26:15 (EDT)"
Why not,it worked for Clinton in Somalia.
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 13:31:16 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Carter should keep his pie hole shut and let those with greater competence for developing military strategy proceed.
Carter = dumbkopf
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 13:29:01 (EDT)
My two cents are:
We're the only country that should be allowed to have nuclear weapons because we have shown that we know how to use the really big one.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 13:28:41 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Former President Jimmy Carter declared in a Washington Post op-ed piece Thursday that "a unilateral war with Iraq is not the answer," and that such action would "alienate our necessary allies."
So what's Carter's plan, crash land a hand full of choppers in Baghdad?
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 13:26:15 (EDT)
My two cents are:
WASHINGTON - Intelligence on Iraq that the Bush administration will present to Congress includes information on how dangerously close Saddam Hussein has come to developing a nuclear weapon, Fox News has learned.
so just crush him already!
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 13:21:52 (EDT)
My two cents are:
If justice is poetic, the next homocide hijacker will take out the golden gate. Once the commute to Palo Alto gets snarked they'll be begging to bomb Saddam.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 12:58:14 (EDT)
My two cents are:
What's this about MD being safe? We've had two of our neighboring states attacked by the 9/11 hijackers and do I need to remind you that next week I'll be wearing a new commemorative lapel pin in honor of my fellow colleagues who perished at the hands of Mohamed Atta? Who would have dreamed that moving from the space & military industrial complex into the realm of commerce would have so many lurking dangers? So easy to criticize from outside the beltway bubble. Wake up and take your hand off the jack handle. (01) - Friday, September 06, 2002 at 12:16:16 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Time to truncate.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 11:55:23 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Grab your favorite teenage transvestite, a bowl of popcorn and a cold brewski and you�re all set for the fun. (01) - Friday, September 06, 2002 at 11:39:20 (EDT)
My two cents are:
This is gonna be better than the Superbowl. (01) - Friday, September 06, 2002 at 11:37:16 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Of course, I�ll be kicking back in Maryland so I really don�t have to worry about getting shot myself. (01) - Friday, September 06, 2002 at 11:35:35 (EDT)
My two cents are:
....and so easy to chew too.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 11:28:35 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Jism, the other white meat.
Dr. J
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 11:26:27 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The things I look forward to the most... If we attack IRAQ we might get another bellylaugh full of Sadam's crowing about the mother of this and that and the rivers of American blood that will be criss-crossing the sand, before he gets his ass kicked again. (01) - Friday, September 06, 2002 at 11:23:56 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Make sure you go into the source and copy the javascript command. That way, you too can truncate the page any time you feel like it, just like Glorp.
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 10:59:22 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Way to truncate!
seconding the motion
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 10:57:04 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 10:36:54 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Way to truncate!
Anonymous.
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 10:31:16 (EDT)
My two cents are:
As if no one had noticed Bush Baby sucking at the teat of Big Oil, wondering why Americans want to reduce their dependence on the Bushista's Drug of Choice.
Gregor Samsa
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 10:30:26 (EDT)
My two cents are:
That's our guy, Stupid Is As Stupid Does Dirty Little Bush!
ANNALS OF FECKLESS BUSH THE UNELECTED
- Friday, September 06, 2002 at 10:28:47 (EDT)
My two cents are:
