- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 15:06:19 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I'm the sardonic wit of the right. The voice of cool. The queen of cynicism. The Princess of Pith. That's my gig. Yours?
L.G.
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 15:00:03 (EDT)
My two cents are:
And if you people cared it would make me hpapy!
Pete�
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 14:58:22 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Remind me again where this L.G. person fits intot eh scheme of things here at ole fornigate? Waht is your gig?
Pete�
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 14:57:40 (EDT)
My two cents are:
No, you do not have too make the (01) at teh last entry to see code. You, simply need to ahve a brain not addled by socialsim. See, this ahs the code, but it does not follow your stupidly asumed patternz.
Pete�
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 14:56:06 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Imposter Pete tallies so far. 14:19:2. 14:14:07. 14:09:37. Socialsit code-challenged traitorz. (01)
Pete�
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 14:53:24 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Isn't the code where you write (01) or (02)at the end of the post? Is there something else happening in the code, some sort of Port 110 hocus pocus?
Baffled by the code, which once seemed so obvious but now appears to involve port 110.
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 14:43:53 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Clue?
L.G.
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 14:41:56 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Code?
L.G.
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 14:41:18 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Kind of sweet how Pete imagines people are frantically trying to break the code and failing over and over again.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 14:38:44 (EDT)
My two cents are:
True, but none of them actually care.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 14:23:31 (EDT)
My two cents are:
No you are not. You'd know that if you knew the code. HA!
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 14:22:52 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Only one in the babbling group of imposters is halfway near the spot. Idiots! (01) Doinkerz.
Pete�
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 14:22:07 (EDT)
My two cents are:
You mean I'm not the real Pete�?
Pete�
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 14:19:23 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Faux Pete at 14:11. The code is missing. Doink. (01)
Pete�
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 14:14:07 (EDT)
My two cents are:
No you can't without real codes! (01)
Pete�
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 14:11:19 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I can doink!
Pete�
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 14:09:37 (EDT)
My two cents are:
L.G. can be tutored in the arts.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 14:08:19 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Where's ydog? Is the cookie ready to come out of the pussed over oven?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 14:07:26 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Glint, look over here! I can do colors! I can do links! Can L.G. do that? Huh? You can�t possibly think she�s cooler than me, can you? I�m your buddy! I�m your apl! Pete� - Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 14:05:53 (EDT)
My two cents are:
When you think of it, L.G. and Glint makes more sense than Pete and Glint. While Pete is certifiably crazy, I picture L.G. as a rube, like Glint. I would imagine L.G. doesn't share Pete's pro-abortion stance or his affinity for bisexuals. L.G. has never claimed to be a sinner either. Of course, if Jeremiah would only return, this would be moot.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 14:03:23 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I don't think of L.G. as "cool" so much as I think of her as "intentionally sluggardly."
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 13:51:28 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Some times you just have to throw the dead horses overboard.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 13:50:06 (EDT)
My two cents are:
A stronger alliance between Glint and L.G., with Pete left by himself to babble incoherently, would be quite formidable. Glint's childish resentments along with L.G.'s utter coolness? Wow!
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 13:49:28 (EDT)
My two cents are:
How diabolically clever. Leave Pete out of the loop. Of course, if that isn't treason nothing is.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 13:43:19 (EDT)
My two cents are:
True, but would it be necessary to let Pete know?
(01)
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 13:20:24 (EDT)
My two cents are:
No way! Pete would have a cow if Glint gave L.G. the code.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 13:05:15 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Sure, L.G. has become lame and irrelevant, but Glint's relief and gratitude at her appearance was pathetically cute. Too bad L.G. blew the rube off. Maybe if Glint could give her the code...
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 13:03:57 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Jerey Sprihger is a Democrat?!
Pete�
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 13:00:39 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Can I work in a reference to flappy pancakes here? Thank you.
Glint
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 12:58:33 (EDT)
My two cents are:
What happened to L.G.? It seems as if s/he lost all her spunk, her grit, her gumption. Looking through a book of Life Magazine war photos? She names no names, relieves herself of no wearily cynical cackles... what gives, L.G.? Menopause? Depressed because you found out Jerry Springer is a Democrat? What is it?
patriot
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 12:56:37 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Pathetic narcissism mixed with sociopathy. Classic example of, "Look at me! Look at me!" That's one aspect. Then there's the darker aspect, the "gotcha" aspect. Desperate and vain. Sad, really.
Dr. Freud
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 12:51:40 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Just when I was beginning to think there was a pie obsession he changed to the breakfast bar. What say you about that, good Dr.?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 12:47:11 (EDT)
My two cents are:
He can fly when confronted with his own ugliness and bile.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 12:30:35 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Like a windmill. Like a goddam octobus.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 12:30:27 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The chubby guy with the coke-bottle legs? He can run?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 12:29:17 (EDT)
My two cents are:
He said "despErate." huh huh. Like a big capital pussed over E. huh. uh huh huh.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 12:27:21 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Sure, it's a natural response. But, in the end, you can run but you can't hide. Once Glint understands this, the healing can begin. Right now you see his pathetic attempts to change the subject with despErate, forced "humor." This is hard to watch.
Dr. Freud
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 12:25:26 (EDT)
My two cent Dr. Freud, wouldn't you try to run away from yourself if you were Glint?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 12:19:06 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Go Bugeaters!
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 12:17:43 (EDT)
My two cents are:
It's like a dog who's been beaten all his life. You have to break down all the distrust before you can go forward. I don't know what happened to Glint. Possibly, he doesn't even remember. But, whatever it was, the end result is on painful display right here. It's not a pretty sight.
Dr. Freud
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 12:17:39 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I'm here to help. But first he has to stop running away from himself. It's a big step. Takes time.
Dr. Freud
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 12:12:34 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Dr. Freud should help him surface above jism obsession before he drowns.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 12:10:51 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Term limit? Verrryy good. We've got a Cali expert here. That you, Glint?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 12:06:33 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Once you get past the ridiculous notion that Glint is a cheerful guy with malice toward none, you start to see what an angry prick he really is and you begin to understand John's opinion of the nasty rube.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 12:05:10 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Of course he won't be elected Governor again. Term limits.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 12:01:24 (EDT)
My two cents are:
So in other words, if you can't articulate your arguement concisely, then try to dazzle with copious amounts of b�llsh�t or name call. ◊ No surprise that the Liberals liberally employ these liberal tactics. Typcial way to end the day.
Glint
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 19:47:29 (EDT)
boo-hoo-hoo! Farking Garofalo! Hillary's ugly! Human shields, yech! Bad California! Sputter, fizz, pow!
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 12:01:09 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Typical Glint. Throw stinkbombs, then hide behind the pig sty, cowering in fear and pulling his pud. Not sure whether to shit or go blind.
pathetic rube
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 11:58:18 (EDT)
My two cents are:
You mean the pout about name-calling after he got waxed? That was classic chicken shit Glint. One of the most hate-filled fuckers on the planet whining about how nasty liberals are.
9
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 11:53:28 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Glint seems to have recovered nicely from his pout of yesterday. He's back to the weird gotchas.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 11:47:35 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Are you ready to talk, Glint.
Dr. Freud
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 11:42:59 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Davis won't get elected Governor again, that's for sure!
Glint
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 11:41:52 (EDT)
My two cents are:
So what? Oh, I think Glint believes this holds promise for Republicans in Cali. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 11:38:56 (EDT)
My two cents are:
They dislike Davis??? Duh!
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 11:37:53 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Appears as though the low pie is getting eaten by the Dimocrats according to the SF Chronicle.
Glint
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 11:35:58 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Shit, after Poppy conquered Arabia, he was up around 90%
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 11:29:21 (EDT)
My two cents are:
73%? Damn near Clintonian (the day Big Dog got impeached by the troglos.)
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 11:24:22 (EDT)
My two cents are:
What? Old, fat squash face dissing the women again. Figures.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 11:21:56 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Let's talk, Glint.
Dr. Freud
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 11:15:19 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I don't believe that polling data printed in the NYT. No way Democrats give Bush a 61% approval rating. The real number is probably higher.
Lee Hannland
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 10:04:54 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Yes, flappy pancakes and all, L.G.
Glint
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 09:53:41 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I was looking through an old LIFE magazine book history of WWII in pictures and it had a photo of a buncha "old" ladies kneeling in front of the Capitol protesting the war....with their gloves, funny hats with feathers, dressy old black dresses etc.
Still the womenfolk like Sarandan leading the protests I guess. No guys back then save this or that professional journalist. Later guys joined the protests just to sample the fruits of the sexual revolution. I wonder if they are still doing that...with Viagra. Coupling with a buncha old 1960s wrinkled harridans who croak "make love not war."
L.G.
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 09:41:54 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Why are protesters planning to line up outside the National Press Club today for an appearance by antiwar activist and Hollywood actor Tim Robbins?
"We are human shields for reporters," says Kristinn Taylor of the D.C. chapter of FreeRepublic.com, "in case they ask a question of Tim Robbins he doesn't like."
Mr. Robbins has threatened reporters and columnists with bodily harm over coverage he deems insufficiently favorable.
As another example of Mr. Robbins' temper, Mr. Taylor cited the recent decision by the National Baseball Hall of Fame to cancel a celebration of the movie "Bull Durham" rather than give Mr. Robbins and fellow activist/actor Susan Sarandon a forum for their antiwar views.
Finally. A few human shields with some working brain cells
Glint - Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 09:37:24 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Sharpton calls Clinton "America's first beige president."
developing.......
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 09:26:56 (EDT)
My two cents are:
High pie time, in an easy to chew bar form. For those of you who like polls or blow jobs or both. Dubya's approval among Democrats is now 61% according to the NYT (so be suspect) and 73% among the general populance.
Glint
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 09:20:52 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Staged? No, I don't think it was staged. You mean staged as in they gave the first 300 Iraqi's a free MRE to drag Saddam's bronze head around the square? No. Or do you mean staged as though it were shot on some Hollywood back lot? No, it was the effect of a successful liberation effort. So much unlike the previous White House occupant who played impeachment wag the dog by hitting tents and baby aspirin plants.
Glint
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 09:04:20 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I notice down there something about the phoney liberation celebration. Did Glit ever come on and admit that it was staged? Why does the poor moron have such a hard time admitting that he's a fool and an ignoramus? It's the same as with his anger management issues-- fails to connect with reality. Maybe when the forceps squashed his head like that he suffered brain damage?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 03:06:31 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I thought Sowell was an Intelligent Black Man, but it turns out he's as dumb as a field hand. Another of these morons who talks about appeasement of Hitler as if it had any parallels at all with Saddam. Oh, Winston Churchill knew what would happen if you appeased the dictator... thank God Snippy is here today to stop Saddam Hussein from annexing Czechoslovakia and subsequently invading Poland, Norway, Denmark, the Netherlands, Belgium, France, North Africa, Greece... of course if he invaded Russia they'd stall him out at Stalingrad, I have no doubt. Sowell. You don't find many black guys as dumb as Glit.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 03:03:46 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Ain't it pathetic that when Glit gets his ass whipped, called on his stupid statements, he bubbles down into yapping about Hillary. Pathetic and just a touch weird.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 02:59:35 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Eagleburger wants to impeach Snippy? That is news. Problem with Eagle Burger, though, is he's just a fat windbag, not unlike Rush and Pete, and won't inspire much action. He was the first guy, remember, on the day the Arabs ran the airplanes into the buildings, to leap into the television studios and fart and blow about kicking ass. Eagleburger, by the way, is the fellow who set up Milosovitch to ethnically cleanse some of those places, according to my Croatian neighbor.
patriot
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 02:58:08 (EDT)
My two cents are:
U.S. forces bombed Iraqi positions near Syria on Thursday, and special operations forces monitored the border to try to prevent Saddam supporters from escaping or new fighters from entering Iraq, U.S. officials said. ''The Syrians are behaving badly, they need to be reminded of that, and if they continue . . . we need to think about what our policy is,'' Wolfowitz told the Senate Armed Services Committee on Thursday. Asked if there were plans to send U.S. forces into Syria, Wolfowitz replied, ''None I know of,'' but said that it would be ''a decision for the president and the Congress.''
strike out the congress part
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 02:28:00 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 01:03:45 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Basically, Eagleburger's opinion is that we'll need congressional approval before the troops are deployed in Syria. He wasn't saying that Bush should be impeached for anything he has done in Iraq or that Eagleburger is opposed to attacking Syria. ◊ By the way, didn't Hillary once say that if the allegations of operation jism liberation between her husband and Lewinsky were proven true that it would be a big deal, but that it would never be proven? What happened with that?
Glint
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 00:54:49 (EDT)
My two cents are:
correction: U.K. reporter.
Glint
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 00:47:44 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The context of Eagleburger's remarks was that if the administration were to invade another country post-Iraq, and if unlike Iraq, congressional approval wasn't first obtained, it would, in his opinion, be impeachable. Eagleburger was on Hannity and Colmes complaining about how his remark to a U.I. reporter, explaining the system of government here, has been taken out of context by some who are trying to use it to imply a division exists among conservatives. Not so. ◊ Remember: Context is everything.
Glint
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 00:46:17 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Hawks in the Bush team have raised the prospect of action against Syria. Mr Rumsfeld warned that Syria would be "held to account" if it provided military equipment to Iraq. Lawrence Eagleburger, who was US Secretary of State under George Bush Sr, told the BBC: "If George Bush [Jr] decided he was going to turn the troops loose on Syria and Iran after that he would last in office for about 15 minutes.In fact if President Bush were to try that now even I would think that he ought to be impeached. You can't get away with that sort of thing in this democracy."
should be sent to bed without his bedtime story
- Tuesday, April 15, 2003 at 00:19:21 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I'm still waiting to found out how 200 enemy Muslims in downtown Ishmael sneaked into a square that had been sealed off by the 3rd Marine Division. Were they really Muslims or simply coppertoned Marines?
skeptic
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 23:22:55 (EDT)
My two cents are:
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- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 23:18:35 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I don't think y'all understand. I'm not necessily saying that Clinton's approach of not waiting for explicit U.N. approval before starting the bombing in Kosovo was wrong. I think that helping protect people from a dictator - whether they be Kosovanians or Kurds for that matter - takes precidence. After all, Clinton carried on the bombing utnil Bush could get the job done. (01)
Glint
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 23:17:22 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Kosovo was a bad war because we didn't target muslims. It was a bad war because it was Clinton's war. Ask Trent Lott.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 22:40:22 (EDT)
My two cents are:
House Ethics Takes GOP to Task on Conduct
April 14, 2003 03:53 PM EDT
WASHINGTON - Answering GOP leaders who bypassed the House ethics committee to loosen standards of conduct, the panel has struck back with tough guidelines to prevent lawmakers from exploiting the weakened rules.
New committee guidelines warn lawmakers and their staffs that they could run afoul of ethics rules if they're not careful while following the loosened rules.
The changes engineered in January by House Republicans make it easier for members and staff to attend charitable events and to accept free food. The Committee on Standards of Official conduct - the ethics committee - was not consulted.
The committee now is warning that before accepting their newfound freedom to accept free transportation and lodging for a charitable event, lawmakers and staff must make certain the function solely benefits the charity. And they should not stay more than two nights.
Before eating free food that now can be delivered more often, the guidelines said, members and their employees must be certain the eats did not come from lobbyists and others interested in the legislation on the current agenda.
The overall purpose of the rules is to prevent lawmakers from turning attendance at a charitable event, such as a golf tournament, into a free vacation and to prevent conflicts of interest by limiting gifts from special interests.
Damn!
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 22:32:26 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The up close action video of the statue being destroyed is broadcast around the world as fake proof of a massive uprising.
HOWEVER, still photos grabbed off of Reuters show a long-shot view of Fardus Square... it's empty save for the U.S. Marines, the International Press, and a small handful of Iraqis. There are no more than 200 people in the square at best.
The Marines have the square sealed off (for an uninterrupted and completely scripted filming?) and guarded by tanks.
A U.S. mechanized vehicle is used to pull the statue of Saddam from it's base.
The entire event is being hailed as an equivalent of the Berlin Wall falling... but even a quick glance of the long-shot photo shows something more akin to a carefully constructed media event tailored for the television cameras.
"sealed off" yep, means "sealed off"
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 22:30:50 (EDT)
My two cents are:
It was, by any measure, an astonishing coincidence. As the biggest statue of Saddam Hussein in Baghdad was pulled down "spontaneously" in front of the world's media, the Stars and Stripes which flew on the Pentagon on 11 September was at hand to be draped over its face.
The US army denied that the toppling of the 20ft edifice by a tank tower was stage-managed. It was a coincidence, they said, that Lt Tim McLaughlin, the keeper of that flag, happened to be present.
gullible bushist fascist invasion lemming sheeple
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 22:25:17 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The size of the crowd in the CNN shot looks to be around 200-300 people, some of whom are American soldiers. The major media coverage, therefore, still strikes me as deceptive, clearly giving the impression of a hug mob of joyous Iraqis in central Baghdad when in fact it was a fairly modest gathering, especially for an hour-long event in a city of 5 million.
bushist fascist spin job
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 22:21:49 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Man, that Glint is a serious, heavy dude! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 21:13:14 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Phucking Garofalo!
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 20:33:48 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Oh, and he's so offended by the name-calling. My, my.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 20:28:57 (EDT)
My two cents are:
When the rube has the answers to all his "questions," he pretends to be a victim of "liberal tactics" and pretends to leave in a huff when in fact he left because he was outclassed again. And he still won't face his own anger and resentment. Pathetic.
go read some more Sowell
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 20:00:41 (EDT)
My two cents are:
No, Glint. It's all right here, the answers to your lame questions. The name-calling if gratis for a sick asshole who calls a most refreshing war "NATO hostilities." Now, back to Garofalo and your despised human shields. How do they confront the likes of you? Why the hatred?
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 19:58:22 (EDT)
My two cents are:
So I'm just gonna take my ball and go home.
cheaters!!
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 19:52:10 (EDT)
My two cents are:
So in other words, if you can't articulate your arguement concisely, then try to dazzle with copious amounts of bμllshιt or name call. ◊ No surprise that the Liberals liberally employ these liberal tactics. Typcial way to end the day.
Glint
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 19:47:29 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Kosovo? All about oil.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 19:40:49 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Don't blame the rube. This Kosovo "comparison" has been a staple of the know-nothing right on the web from Day One.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 19:40:25 (EDT)
My two cents are:
What a disgusting asshole.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 19:38:58 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"NATO hostilities."
says it all about the angry rube
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 19:35:04 (EDT)
My two cents are:
WASHINGTON -- Citing "cultural differences," the company that GOP vice presidential nominee Dick Cheney headed for the past five years maintains separate restrooms overseas for its American and foreign employees.
Halliburton Co. said Cheney was unaware of the segregated restroom policy in effect during his years as chairman.
The Dallas-based energy services company, a major federal contractor operating in more than 100 countries, said the policy was "not an attempt to demean any employee" and was "no different than Eastern countries that often designate facilities for use by Westerners."
A State Department official said he had never seen a similar policy in trips and assignments to four continents.
And a leading public health professional said, absent evidence of unsanitary practices, he could see no justification for directing Americans and foreign hires to separate facilities.
At least two Americans who worked for Halliburton in Kosovo complained to the company.
"I thought segregation went out in the '60s," former employee Amy Katz wrote to a friend last September, a month before she was fired by the company in Kosovo. She subsequently challenged the dismissal in a complaint with the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.
Katz, 32, of Gig Harbor, Wash., alleges she was a victim of retaliation as a result of reporting sexual harassment, gender discrimination and concerns about company policies, including the separate restrooms.
The EEOC has not yet ruled on her complaint.
Cheney became chief executive of Halliburton, an oil services conglomerate, in October 1995 and chairman in early 1996, before retiring last month to join the Republican ticket. Halliburton has received $2 billion in federal contracts to support U.S. troops on peacekeeping missions through its Brown & Root Services unit.
Juleanna Glover Weiss, a Cheney spokeswoman, said while she had no information on the bathroom facilities, Cheney "has never tolerated sexual harassment in any organization he's headed or been a part of, be it in Congress, at the Defense Department or at Halliburton. All allegations, he believes, are to be thoroughly investigated and perpetrators punished."
Cindy Viktorin, a Halliburton spokeswoman, said Cheney was not aware of the restroom policy and the company would not comment on individual discrimination complaints.
The company addressed the bathrooms in a written statement: "With a diverse and global work force, the company recognizes the cultural differences and cultural practices in the regions of the world."
The company has landed peacekeeping-support contracts in Bosnia, Kosovo, Croatia and Hungary, and also works in the former Soviet Union in a program to dismantle intercontinental ballistic missiles and their silos.
In Kosovo, where Brown & Root has more than 4,500 employees, the company acknowledged that "two former employees were concerned that the company provided restroom or portable toilet facilities that were different for the local 'Host Country Nationals' (HCN) than for the Americans."
The company uses "the same basic style of portable toilet for all employees in Kosovo" but recognizes "the cultural differences in how each group uses the facilities," the statement said. The practice of designated facilities "is not limited to the Kosovo area," it said.
Richard Levinson, associate executive director of the American Public Health Association, said unless local cultural practices involve unsanitary conditions, "I can think of no health-related reason for segregating them. Heaven help us, Americans can create as big a mess as anyone."
The association of 55,000 health professionals aims to improve the health status of people throughout the world.
Bill Wanlund, spokesman for the State Department Bureau of Economic and Business affairs, said, "I've been to private companies in six countries on four continents and I have not seen that kind of differentiation. When you go to an American embassy or consulate, there is no separation of facilities."
Katz said she arrived in Brown & Root's Kosovo headquarters building last September when the former Serbian military facility was under renovation.
She said four portable toilets -- two for the ethnic Albanians, two for the Americans -- were outside the building during the renovation and an ethnic Albanian security guard was stationed nearby.
"I was totally outraged. I refused to use the ones for the Americans," Katz said, even though the guard tried to persuade her not to use the Albanian-only facilities. "I tried to explain that I thought this was terrible and it was my way of protesting it," she said.
Halliburton and Kosovo
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 19:34:21 (EDT)
My two cents are:
NATO hostilities????? Fucking traitor rube.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 19:33:47 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Wasn't needed, rube. NATO doesn't need UN approval to defend Europe. What's up with the hatred of human shields and Garofalo?
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 19:33:02 (EDT)
My two cents are:
No U.N. resolution was ever passed which explicitly authorized NATO hostilities in Kosovo. Where were the peaceniks and human shields then? Obviously holding their tongues for a Republican administration.
Glint
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 19:29:07 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Kosovo lies in southern Serbia and has a mixed population of which the majority are ethnic Albanians. Until 1989, the region enjoyed a high degree of autonomy within the former Yugoslavia, when Serbian leader Slobodan Milosevic altered the status of the region, removing its autonomy and bringing it under the direct control of Belgrade, the Serbian capital. The Kosovar Albanians strenuously opposed the move.
During 1998, open conflict between Serbian military and police forces and Kosovar Albanian forces resulted in the deaths of over 1,500 Kosovar Albanians and forced 400,000 people from their homes. The international community became gravely concerned about the escalating conflict, its humanitarian consequences, and the risk of it spreading to other countries. President Milosevic's disregard for diplomatic efforts aimed at peacefully resolving the crisis and the destabilising role of militant Kosovar Albanian forces was also of concern.
On 28 May 1998, the North Atlantic Council, meeting at Foreign Minister level, set out NATO's two major objectives with respect to the crisis in Kosovo, namely:
to help to achieve a peaceful resolution of the crisis by contributing to the response of the international community;
to promote stability and security in neighbouring countries with particular emphasis on Albania and the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (1).
On 12 June 1998 the North Atlantic Council, meeting at Defence Minister level, asked for an assessment of possible further measures that NATO might take with regard to the developing Kosovo Crisis. This led to consideration of a large number of possible military options.
On 13 October 1998, following a deterioration of the situation, the NATO Council authorised Activation Orders for air strikes. This move was designed to support diplomatic efforts to make the Milosevic regime withdraw forces from Kosovo, cooperate in bringing an end to the violence and facilitate the return of refugees to their homes. At the last moment, following further diplomatic initiatives including visits to Belgrade by NATO's Secretary General Solana, US Envoys Holbrooke and Hill, the Chairman of NATO's Military Committee, General Naumann, and the Supreme Allied Commander Europe, General Clark, President Milosevic agreed to comply and the air strikes were called off.
UN Security Council Resolution (UNSCR) 1199, among other things, expressed deep concern about the excessive use of force by Serbian security forces and the Yugoslav army, and called for a cease-fire by both parties to the conflict. In the spirit of the UNSCR, limits were set on the number of Serbian forces in Kosovo, and on the scope of their operations, following a separate agreement with Generals Naumann and Clark.
It was agreed, in addition, that the Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) would establish a Kosovo Verification Mission (KVM) to observe compliance on the ground and that NATO would establish an aerial surveillance mission. The establishment of the two missions was endorsed by UN Security Council Resolution 1203. Several non-NATO nations that participate in Partnership for Peace (PfP) agreed to contribute to the surveillance mission organised by NATO.
In support of the OSCE, the Alliance established a special military task force to assist with the emergency evacuation of members of the KVM, if renewed conflict should put them at risk. This task force was deployed in the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (1) under the overall direction of NATO's Supreme Allied Commander Europe.
Despite these steps, the situation in Kosovo flared up again at the beginning of 1999, following a number of acts of provocation on both sides and the use of excessive and disproportionate force by the Serbian Army and Special Police. Some of these incidents were defused through the mediation efforts of the OSCE verifiers but in mid-January, the situation deteriorated further after escalation of the Serbian offensive against Kosovar Albanians.
Renewed international efforts were made to give new political impetus to finding a peaceful solution to the conflict. The six-nation Contact Group (2) established by the 1992 London Conference on the Former Yugoslavia met on 29 January. It was agreed to convene urgent negotiations between the parties to the conflict, under international mediation.
OSCE vehicles pull out of Yugoslavia on 20 March 1999. (Belga photo)
NATO supported and reinforced the Contact Group efforts by agreeing on 30 January to the use of air strikes if required, and by issuing a warning to both sides in the conflict. These concerted initiatives culminated in initial negotiations in Rambouillet near Paris, from 6 to 23 February, followed by a second round in Paris, from 15 to 18 March. At the end of the second round of talks, the Kosovar Albanian delegation signed the proposed peace agreement, but the talks broke up without a signature from the Serbian delegation.
Immediately afterwards, Serbian military and police forces stepped up the intensity of their operations against the ethnic Albanians in Kosovo, moving extra troops and modern tanks into the region, in a clear breach of compliance with the October agreement. Tens of thousands of people began to flee their homes in the face of this systematic offensive.
On 20 March, the OSCE Kosovo Verification Mission was withdrawn from the region, having faced obstruction from Serbian forces to the extent that they could no longer continue to fulfil their task. US Ambassador Holbrooke then flew to Belgrade, in a final attempt to persuade President Milosevic to stop attacks on the Kosovar Albanians or face imminent NATO air strikes.
A US F-15E Strike Eagle takes off.
Milosevic refused to comply, and on 23 March the order was given to commence air strikes (Operation Allied Force).
On 10 June 1999, after an air campaign lasting seventy-seven days, NATO Secretary General Javier Solana announced that he had instructed General Wesley Clark, Supreme Allied Commander Europe, temporarily to suspend NATO's air operations against Yugoslavia. This decision was taken after consultations with the North Atlantic Council and confirmation from General Clark that the full withdrawal of Yugoslav forces from Kosovo had begun.
The withdrawal was in accordance with a Military-Technical Agreement concluded between NATO and the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia on the evening of 9 June. The agreement was signed by Lt. General Sir Michael Jackson, on behalf of NATO, and by Colonel General Svetozar Marjanovic of the Yugoslav Army and Lieutenant General Obrad Stevanovic of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, on behalf of the Governments of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia and Republic of Serbia. The withdrawal was also consistent with the agreement between the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia and the European Union and Russian special envoys, President Ahtisaari of Finland and Mr. Victor Chernomyrdin, former Prime Minister of Russia, reached on 3 June.
The NATO Secretary General announced that he had written to the Secretary-General of the United Nations, Mr. Kofi Annan, and to the President of the United Nations Security Council, informing them of these developments. The Secretary General of NATO urged all parties to the conflict to seize the opportunity for peace and called on them to comply with their obligations under the agreements which had now been concluded and under all relevant UN Security Council resolutions.
Paying tribute to General Clark and to the forces which had contributed to Operation Allied Force, and to the cohesion and determination of all the Allies, the Secretary General stated that NATO was ready to undertake its new mission to bring the people back to their homes and to build a lasting and just peace in Kosovo.
On 10 June the UN Security Council passed a resolution (UNSCR 1244) welcoming the acceptance by the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia of the principles on a political solution to the Kosovo crisis, including an immediate end to violence and a rapid withdrawal of its military, police and paramilitary forces. The Resolution, adopted by a vote of 14 in favour and none against, with one abstention (China), announced the Security Council's decision to deploy international civil and security presences in Kosovo, under United Nations auspices.
Russian envoy Viktor Chernomyrdin (right) and his EU counterpart, Finnish President Martti Ahtisaari (left) talk to the media at Belgrade airport on 2 June 1999, prior to talks with Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic. (Belga photo)
Acting under Chapter VII of the UN Charter, the Security Council also decided that the political solution to the crisis would be based on the general principles adopted on 6 May by the Foreign Ministers of the Group of Seven industrialised countries and the Russian Federation - the Group of 8 - and the principles contained in the paper presented in Belgrade by the President of Finland and the Special Representative of the Russian Federation which was accepted by the Government of the Federal Republic on 3 June. Both documents were included as annexes to the Resolution.
The principles included, among others, an immediate and verifiable end to violence and repression in Kosovo; the withdrawal of the military, police and paramilitary forces of the Federal Republic; deployment of effective international and security presences, with substantial NATO participation in the security presence and unified command and control; establishment of an interim administration; the safe and free return of all refugees; a political process providing for substantial self-government, as well as the demilitarisation of the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA); and a comprehensive approach to the economic development of the crisis region.
The Security Council authorised Member States and relevant international organisations to establish the international security presence, and decided that its responsibilities would include deterring renewed hostilities, demilitarising the KLA and establishing a secure environment for the return of refugees and in which the international civil presence could operate. The Security Council also authorised the UN Secretary-General to establish the international civil presence and requested him to appoint a Special Representative to control its implementation.
Following the adoption of UNSCR 1244, General Jackson, acting on the instructions of the North Atlantic Council, made immediate preparations for the rapid deployment of the security force (Operation Joint Guardian), mandated by the United Nations Security Council.
The first elements entered Kosovo on 12 June. As agreed in the Military Technical Agreement, the deployment of the security force - KFOR - was synchronised with the departure of Serb security forces from Kosovo. By 20 June, the Serb withdrawal was complete and KFOR was well established in Kosovo.
At its full strength KFOR will comprise some 50,000 personnel. It is a multinational force under unified command and control with substantial NATO participation. Agreement has been reached on the arrangements for participation by the Russian Federation. More than twelve other non-NATO nations have also indicated their intention to contribute to KFOR.
Also on 20 June, following confirmation by the Supreme Allied Commander Europe (SACEUR) that Serb security forces had vacated Kosovo, the Secretary General of NATO announced that, in accordance with the Military Technical Agreement, he had formally terminated the air campaign.
A British Lynx helicopter delivers aid on 5 April 1999 to the UNHCR refugee facility in Brazda, which was constructed with the assistance of NATO forces in FYROM (1).
(Belga Photo)
NATO forces have been at the forefront of the humanitarian efforts to relieve the suffering of the many thousands of refugees forced to flee Kosovo by the Serbian ethnic cleansing campaign. In the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (1) NATO troops built refugee camps, refugee reception centres and emergency feeding stations, as well as moving many hundreds of tons of humanitarian aid to those in need. In Albania, NATO deployed substantial forces to provide similar forms of assistance. NATO has also assisted the UNHCR with co-ordination of humanitarian aid flights as well as supplementing these flights by using aircraft from member countries. The Euro-Atlantic Disaster Response Coordination Centre (EADRCC) established at NATO in May 1998 has also played an important role in the coordination of support to UNHCR relief operations.
Of particular concern to NATO countries and to the international community as a whole, from the outset of the crisis, has been the situation of the Kosovar Albanians remaining in Kosovo, whose plight has been described by refugees leaving the province. All indications pointed to organised persecution involving mass executions; exploitation as human shields; rape; mass expulsions; burning and looting of homes and villages; destruction of crops and livestock; suppression of identity, origins and property ownership by confiscation of documents; hunger, starvation and exhaustion; and many other abuses of human rights and international norms of civilised behaviour.
Support for neighbouring countries
A French soldier looks out over the refugee centre built by NATO troops at Brazde, FYROM (1) (April 1999 - Belga photo)
The Alliance has fully recognised the immense humanitarian, political, and economic problems facing the countries in the region as a result of the conflict in Kosovo. In particular, Alliance efforts have focused on providing immediate practical assistance in dealing with the refugee crisis by reassigning NATO forces in the region to humanitarian tasks.
At the beginning of April 1999, the NATO Commander in the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (1) was given full authority to coordinate NATO's assistance to that country and to establish a forward headquarters in Albania, in coordination with the Albanian authorities and the UNHCR, in order to assess the humanitarian situation and provide support. The North Atlantic Council also tasked the NATO Military Authorities to undertake further planning to this end. Subsequent assistance has included the provision of emergency accommodation and building of refugee camps, and assisting humanitarian aid organisations by providing transport and other forms of help including the distribution of food and aid. NATO countries are providing financial and other support to Albania and the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (1) and have given reassurances that they would respond to any challenges by Yugoslavia to their security stemming from the presence of NATO forces and their activities on their territories.
Leaders of countries bordering Kosovo meet with Allied leaders at the Washington Summit, 25 April 1999. (Left to right) Bulgarian President Petar Stoyanov, Bosnian Foreign Minister Jadranko Prlic and Albanian President Rexhap Meidani.
NATO Heads of State and Government in Washington set out their vision for achieving lasting peace, stability and future prosperity, based on increasing integration into the European mainstream, working hand in hand with other institutions towards these goals. They established a process of individual consultations and discussions between the nineteen NATO countries and the countries of the region on a 19+1 basis and undertook to promote regional cooperation within the Euro-Atlantic Partnership Council (EAPC). They also agreed to use the resources of the Partnership for Peace (PfP) to provide more direct and focussed assistance in addressing their security concerns. The Alliance also welcomed related measures being taken in other forums, including the European Union proposal to convene a conference on a stability pact for south-eastern Europe at the end of May 1999, as well as recognising the role of the G7 group of countries and of financial institutions, like the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund, in the process of reconstruction which would have to follow the end of the Kosovo crisis.
Facts and figures
Between March 1998 and March 1999, before NATO governments decided upon military action, over 2000 people were killed as a result of the Serb government's policies in Kosovo.
During the summer of 1998, a quarter of a million Kosovar Albanians were forced from their homes as their houses, villages and crops were destroyed.
In January 1999, evidence was discovered, by a United Nations humanitarian team, of the massacre of over 40 people in the village of Racak.
By the beginning of April 1999, the United Nations High Commission for Refugees estimated that the campaign of ethnic cleansing had resulted in 226,000 refugees in Albania, 125,000 in the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (1), and 33,000 in Montenegro.
Assistance given by NATO forces to alleviate the refugee situation included providing equipment and building camps to house 50,000 refugees in Albania; assistance in expanding camps in the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (1); providing medical support and undertaking emergency surgery on the victims of shootings by Serb forces; transporting refugees to safety; and providing transport for humanitarian aid and supplies.
By the end of May 1999, over 230,000 refugees had arrived in the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (1), over 430,000 in Albania and some 64,000 in Montenegro. Approximately 21,500 had reached Bosnia and over 61,000 had been evacuated to other countries. Within Kosovo itself, an estimated 580,000 people had been rendered homeless.
It is estimated that by the end of May, 1.5 million people, i.e. 90% of the population of Kosovo, had been expelled from their homes. Some 225,000 Kosovar men were believed to be missing. At least 5000 Kosvars had been executed.
NATO forces have flown in many thousands of tons of food and equipment into the area. By the end of May 1999, over 4666 tons of food and water, 4325 tons of other goods, 2624 tons of tents and nearly 1600 tons of medical supplies had been transported to the area.
History for thickheaded rubes
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 19:22:34 (EDT)
My two cents are:
UN Resolution 1244 placed Kosovo under the civilian control of the United Nations Administrative Mission in Kosovo, UNMIK. A NATO-led international peace-keeping force, K-For, is responsible for security in the province.
UNMIK is divided into three main areas of responsibility. The Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe, OSCE is charged with insitution and democracy-building, rule of law, and human rights in the province. Reconstruction comes under the European Union, and civil administration under UNMIK itself.
Local elections were held on October 28, 2000. The Kosovo Serb community boycotted the poll. Municipal assemblies were sworn in on November 17, 2000, in 27 of Kosovo's 30 local authorities. Local representatives were appointed by the UNMIK SRSG for the three, predominantly Kosovo Serb municipalities where the turn-out was exceptionally low.
UNMIK alone administers the province.
Under the former Yugoslavia's 1968 constitution, Kosovo became an autonomous province in the Socialist Federative Republic of Yugoslavia. In 1989, the Serbian government, under then president Slobodan Milosevic, altered the Serbian constitution, in effect removing Kosovo and Vojvodina's autonomous status.
forget it, rube
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 19:16:44 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Uh-huh, a defensive organization. That's right, Binky! It's job is to defend Europe from encursions into politically autonomous areas...like Kosovo, which is in...Europe. Give up. Stick to cigars. And Garofalo.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 19:12:13 (EDT)
My two cents are:
So, what you're saying is that by attacking Kosovo the Serbs were a direct threat to NATO? I thougtht the U.N. was supposed to manage internal humanitarian issues like ethnic cleaning.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 19:12:07 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Q: Why did the French and Clinton want NATO and not the U.N. to authorize action in Kosovo?
A: They were afraid of a veto by Russia
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 19:10:09 (EDT)
My two cents are:
See, rube, a big difference is, Serbia was engaging in ethnic cleansing and war in politically autonomous areas, specifically Kosovo. This may be similar to what Saddam did back in 1991, but has no similarity to Snippy engaging in war in a politically autonomous area - Iraq. Snippy is closer to Milosovic than he is to Clinton.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 19:09:39 (EDT)
My two cents are:
That's funny. I always thought NATO was a defensive organization. Guess that all changed under Clinton and the French in Kosovo.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 19:08:13 (EDT)
My two cents are:
VILAMOURA, Portugal -- International leaders are moving closer to
conducting strong, effective air strikes against Serb military
targets to end the crisis in Kosovo.
The United Nations passed a resolution Sept 23 calling for a
Kosovo cease-fire. The North Atlantic Treaty Organization
approved an activation warning order Sept. 24 for both a limited
air option and a phased air campaign in Kosovo.
"This is serious, and it is more than words," Defense Secretary
William S. Cohen said of NATO's action. He said it's intended to
send a strong message to Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic.
Cohen is in Portugal for a meeting of NATO defense ministers.
The NATO warning order does not commit NATO to use force, Cohen
explained, but it provides for the detailed planning needed
should the alliance decide to use force. If military force is
ordered, he said, the United States will participate.
Kosovo was a politically autonomous province of the Yugoslavian
republic of Serbia. When the Yugoslavian federation dissolved in
1989, Serbia declared itself the federal successor and stripped
Kosovo of its special status. Ever since, a guerrilla faction of
ethnic Albanians, who comprise about 90 percent of Kosovo's 2
million population, has sought independence. Open fighting
exploded when Milosevic sent his army to suppress resistance.
U.S. officials say nearly 250,000 Kosovars have fled their homes
and are either refugees or internally displaced within the
country. Many are living in the open countryside or in the
mountains without shelter or food. To date, diplomatic efforts to
end the crisis peacefully have failed.
"Unless there is prompt action by Milosevic, the alliance stands
ready to follow up and consider issuing an ultimatum," said Walt
Slocombe, undersecretary of defense for policy. Any air strikes
ordered would involve "very effective, very strong blows aimed at
the very instruments that Milosevic is using to carry out his
repression," he said.
The activation warning order positions NATO to act quickly,
Slocombe said. It will allow the alliance to move, within a
matter of days, from "'being ready to execute' to 'execute.'" It
is not a decision either to issue an ultimatum or to launch an
attack, he said.
The North Atlantic Council approved the order Sept. 24 that will
take NATO "to an increased level of military preparedness," NATO
Secretary-General Javier Solana said following a council meeting
here. The order allows NATO commanders to identify assets
required for air operations, he said.
"Let me stress that the use of force will require further
decisions by the North Atlantic Council, but today's decision is
an important political signal of NATO's readiness to use force,"
the secretary-general said.
"The United States and its allies are moving NATO activities from
the planning state to readiness to act," President Clinton said
in a Sept. 24 statement in Washington. "With more than 250,000
Kosovars displaced from their homes and cold weather coming,
Milosevic must act immediately to heed the will of the
international community."
The U.N. resolution places responsibility "squarely on President
Milosevic to take the concrete steps necessary to prevent a major
humanitarian disaster and restore peace in the region," Clinton
said. It also makes it clear that the deteriorating situation in
Kosovo constitutes a threat to regional peace and security, he
said.
"The international community has run out of patience with
[Milosevic's] activities in Kosovo," Slocombe said. "This NATO
action, coupled with the U.N. Security Council action �, sends a
clear message that Milosevic has got to stop the offensive
against the civilian population of Kosovo."
International officials are calling on Milosevic to withdraw
forces sent in to carry out a campaign of suppression. He must
allow displaced persons and refugees to return to their homes. He
must allow nongovernmental organizations to provide necessary
humanitarian relief. He also must begin serious political
engagement toward negotiations for an interim settlement that
would provide an amenable basis for autonomy for Kosovo.
NATO's activation warning signifies the increasing urgency of the
situation, Slocombe explained. "I'm told it snowed in Kosovo two
days ago," he said. "If we are to avert a humanitarian disaster,
there has to be action within the next few weeks."
Alexander Vershbow, U.S. ambassador to NATO, said: "Any NATO
action will be aimed at compelling Milosevic to pull back those
forces, withdraw those who don't belong in Kosovo, and enable a
secure environment to be re-established in which humanitarian
operations could function and people could return without fear."
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 19:05:27 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Huh? No, the UN tried to include Bush, you dipshit. It was UN resolutions, not Snippy resolutions. War is a last resort, huh? Please. Clinton did include the UN. It was a NATO operation, stupid. And, uh, NATO was included.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 19:03:02 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Bush tried to include the U.N. in the plan to enforce the resolutions previously passed by the U.N. But they wanted no part in it. He should have pulled a Clinton and invaded without even asking.
Glint
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 18:55:19 (EDT)
My two cents are:
So, Glint, why the hatred and anger for Garofalo?
Dr. Freud
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 18:54:10 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Bitter negro?
doubt it
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 18:52:45 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The intention to destroy the credibility of the United Nations, and its right to help try and defuse situations of danger to life, is not a byproduct of recent American policy. It is its very purpose. Bush chose Iraq not because it would make sense, but because it wouldn't. He did it, in short, because he could. No better reason than that. "Because I can, I will." The thinness of the justification for this war is, in fact, its very point. As is the arbitrariness of the target. The proliferation of other named targets - Syria, North Korea, maybe Burma, why not China? - adds, in Bush's eyes, only to the deliciousness of the game.
who's ready for dessert?
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 18:51:48 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Why does Sowell visit Berkeley?
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 18:50:17 (EDT)
My two cents are:
A bitter negro.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 18:49:41 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Sowell, huh? Now there's a guy with credibility.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 18:49:04 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Even though Saddam Hussein's regime has been toppled, there are still pockets of resistance -- not only in Iraq but in Paris, Berkeley, and in the editorial offices of the New York Times.
These die-hards may hold out for years. It is amazing what complicated lies some people will believe, even when the truth is simple and obvious. Indeed, the truth is often rejected as "simplistic" by those who are dedicated to some complicated lie.
While it was heartening to see Iraqis waving American flags in Baghdad and in Dearborn, Michigan, I have still never seen an American flag on a single home in all my visits to Berkeley.
The political left often acts as if it has discovered and exposed the evils of our times and our society, when what they have really done is twisted and distorted the evils of the ages and of the whole human race to make them seem like something peculiar to our times and our society -- even when these evils have been far worse elsewhere.
Anyone who cannot understand why the United States could not have waited before going into Iraq should read The Gathering Storm by Winston Churchill. It is not about Iraq. It is about what happens when you allow a ruthless dictator to keep violating the treaties that were meant to keep his growing power in check.
While it is true that you learn with age, the down side is that what you learn is often what a damn fool you were before.
There has probably never been a war that was so successful on the battlefield and at the same time so criticized in the media. It took years of futility before criticism of the Vietnam War reached the level reached in the first two weeks of success in Iraq.
As far as the liberal media are concerned, there are only two ways that the police respond to riots -- either they let the situation "get out of hand" or they "over-react" and use "excessive force." Nothing that the cops can do will fall in between, as far as the editorial office heroes are concerned.
Although I seem to be one of the few people around who is not a military expert, I find it hard to believe that the Pentagon's war strategy went according to plan. Did they really plan to be in control of Baghdad in three weeks?
Random thoughts on the passing scene
Thomas Sowell
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 18:29:43 (EDT)
My two cents are:
They can impersonate the man yolk font but they can't fool the decoder.
Glint
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 18:21:28 (EDT)
My two cents are:
POSSIBLE MICHAEL MOORE DINNER INVITE UPSETS WHITE HOUSE OFFICIALS
Amazing, these liebrals!
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 18:13:08 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Whew! It's confirmed!
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 18:11:44 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Confirmed fake observatory floor wax post at 17:10. (01) - Monday, April 14, 2003 at 17:14:48 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I saw that creepy squashed face guy in the theater the other night. He tried to make it look as if he didn�t notice me, but it was obvious he was staring. Isn�t he a married man? I guess it�s true what everybody in the neighborhood says about him. It�s a wonder he isn�t locked up. - Monday, April 14, 2003 at 17:11:10 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Confirmed fake posts in the "liquid white meat" colored font. Reference 17:03, 17:00, & 16:57. (01) - Monday, April 14, 2003 at 17:10:08 (EDT)
My two cents are:
My only regret is that Pete isn�t here enjoying it all with me. - Monday, April 14, 2003 at 17:03:48 (EDT)
My two cents are:
My wife thinks it�s for a cold. - Monday, April 14, 2003 at 17:00:56 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Consumed with hatred and anger he doesn't understand.
Sigh
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 16:59:36 (EDT)
My two cents are:
It�s almost like summer vacation all over again. Back later; I have to run to the store for some more Kleenex. - Monday, April 14, 2003 at 16:57:48 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Afraid, Glint? Afraid of real communication?
Dr. Freud
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 16:41:27 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Splendid news and bad news! Due some sort of illness - physical or mental, real or imagined, who cares? - Brenda has missed many days of school. (Explains why Brenda appeared to stop missing the bus.) The bad news is Brenda is excused from school for the remainder of the year! The good news is Brenda will not be able to graduate and will therefore start next year once again as a senior. - Monday, April 14, 2003 at 16:38:46 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Don't you mean gotched?
gotcha!
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 16:36:36 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I guess I should hang my head in shame, having been got.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 16:31:56 (EDT)
My two cents are:
It was a gotcha about patterns I think. Patterns in the spelling of desparate (sic.) A blemish on the cowardly anonymous and possibly others. He posted them all. The evidence is there. Hoisted. Petard.
gotcha!
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 16:27:39 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Even if the poor rube had forensic skills, so what? Talk about your weird gotchas.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 16:23:14 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Skank?
pusoily
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 16:22:15 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Nice dodge, Glint. How about addressing your anger problem?
Dr. Freud
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 16:20:47 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I saw Brenda with the retired banker's daughter Saturday night at a local theatre. Brenda was wearing a dark top with a thick American flag decal emblazoned on it, a short black skirt, black stockings, and boots. The stockings had some major runs in them, which I assumed was meant as an avant-garde fashion statement. The flag decal was certainly an improvement over the "V-Day Suckz" top in the down below. They made several orbits inside the theatre. Brenda's eyes were combing the audience as if searching for someone. As Brenda was stolling past the stage in front of the theatre, our eyes met. Brenda's eyes ceased their energetic darting and locked, fixed and a faint smile appeared. I knew that others were also noticing the chest decal and watching Brenda and felt a sudden sense of alarm that the entire theatre might take notice of Brenda's subtle acknowledgment. Although I felt ashamed later for doing so, I looked away. - Monday, April 14, 2003 at 16:17:20 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I think Glit's forensic skills are a little weak. All sorts of different people posted "desparate" over the years. I myself wrote some of them, and I was not Dr. Freud.
Not Dr. Freud
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 16:14:35 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Garafolo is the guy who plays the mafia boss on Sopranos. I saw it once in a motel room, even though I don't get the cable out here.
Clyde Harrington
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 16:10:24 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Who is Garafolo? For that matter, who is Zeta-Jones? At least I've heard of Zeta-Jones, even if I don't know who he is.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 16:08:52 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"[President] Clinton's star power is undeniable," one top CBS executive said enthusiastically Monday morning from New York.
He needs a better punching-bag, though.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 16:06:59 (EDT)
My two cents are:
It's[sic] is, forensically speaking, the M.0. of what rube from the heartland?
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 16:01:10 (EDT)
My two cents are:
On to Teheran.
For too long, Islam has thumbed it's nose at God.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 15:59:43 (EDT)
My two cents are:
It won't be long before 57 wild Syrians are whooping it up in the central square of Damascus!
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 15:58:46 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Garofalo.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 15:57:36 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Poe
skank
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 15:57:23 (EDT)
My two cents are:
What is Glint afraid of?
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 15:57:12 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Keyes?
Poe
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 15:56:37 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Ah, good. More WMDs to start a war over!
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 15:56:36 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"Piano?"
"Keyes"
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 15:03:00 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"White House Escalates Diplomatic Pressure on Syria"
(Washington Post)
The Bush administration escalated sharp diplomatic warnings to Syria today, accusing Iraq's neighbor of developing chemical weapons, harboring former Iraqi leaders and allowing foreign fighters to enter Iraq to attack U.S. troops.
White House press secretary Ari Fleischer, at his morning briefing, said repeatedly that "Syria needs to cooperate." He read from a CIA report to Congress last year that Syria had stockpiles of the nerve agent sarin, that it was "trying to develop more toxic and persistent nerve elements," and that it was "highly probable" that Syria was pursuing biological weapons. Fleischer described the document as "authoritative" and said the charge is "well corroborated."
Senior administration officials also added to the escalating administration rhetoric about Syria today, but the strongest rhetoric came from the White House.
Good, get the paper trail started for Syria.
Glint - Monday, April 14, 2003 at 15:00:41 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Sure. That's why he was added to Hillary's death list.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 14:53:43 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Bono was running for governor?
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 14:49:00 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Condi seems pretty clueless to me. But I'll bet she makes a better governor than Sonny Bono would have.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 14:48:11 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Piano.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 14:46:20 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Baldwin.
Glint
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 14:35:05 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The negress bitch? She'll never beat Arnold!
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 14:32:29 (EDT)
My two cents are:
He should have a talk with Condi Rice. She's interested in being Governor of Calif?
Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land on the stars
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 14:31:41 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Try "Bing."
Dr. Freud
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 14:27:31 (EDT)
My two cents are:
What's the first thing that comes to your mind when I say, "Sarandon?"
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 14:20:27 (EDT)
My two cents are:
And what is it about liberal women that irritates you so? Was mom a liberal?
Dr. Freud
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 13:57:41 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I'll ignore the Eleanor stuff. That's just you aping poor Pete.
Dr. Freud
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 13:51:13 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Yes, and California> You seem to have an unnatural jealousy and hatred about California. Where does THAT come from?
Dr. Freud
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 13:50:29 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Cali a boil on someone's butt?
Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land on the stars
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 13:45:17 (EDT)
My two cents are:
He's angry. I can tell.
1 through 22
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 13:44:55 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Well, Glint, you seem to have a lot of anger toward people like Garofalo. You called her a bitch and it seemed unnaturally vehement. That's one of many examples. The human shields stand out as another. Given that most of these people are at least as intelligent as you, why do you express such animosity toward them? What exactly have they done wrong to engender such loathing from the likes of you?
Dr. Freud
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 13:44:05 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Why do you assume I am angry, Dr. Freud? (01)
Glint
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 13:38:21 (EDT)
My two cents are:
You can't just brush it all aside, Glint. That solves nothing.
Dr. Freud
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 13:32:43 (EDT)
My two cents are:
So, the guy likes sluts? Let's talk about your anger, anonymous Glint?
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 13:31:32 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Obviously Odai's residentce is turning out to be a treasure trove of DNA samples for use in forensic investigations that will parallel those being conducted here on Fornigate.
Dr. J
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 13:30:21 (EDT)
My two cents are:
BAGHDAD, Iraq -- The Baghdad palace of Saddam Hussein's oldest son Odai is revealing more about his so-called "playboy" lifestyle.
Reporters said they've seen pages of downloaded pornography, expensive liquor, cigars, guns and ammo magazines, and love letters from girlfriends.
In addition to finding a lot of liquor, electronics, Cuban cigars and porn -- U.S. soldiers say they found pictures of President George W. Bush's twin daughters, Jenna and Barbara Bush.
What, no pictures of the Jr. PIAPS?
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 13:26:47 (EDT)
My two cents are:
We all make typos and spelling errors. However, we can also make forensic use to spot patterns in the game of cowardly posting anonymously. They have all traced to the burn barrel, including some L.G. that I omitted from the list below.
Glint
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 13:08:06 (EDT)
And, armed with this forensic knowledge, uh, what?
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 13:26:03 (EDT)
My two cents are:
California? Figures. Wish that place would burn down.
Glint
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 13:21:44 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Good work, Glint! First you expose Eisentower and being a plagiarizing fraud, now Freud! Yesss!
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 13:19:00 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"Farmers Put Live Chickens in Wood Chippers"
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Two California poultry farmers who fed some 30,000 live chickens into wood chippers will not face criminal charges because they had permission from the U.S. Department of Agriculture, prosecutors said on Friday.
But a spokesman for the Humane Society of the United States called the farmers "callous and barbaric" and disagreed with the decision not to prosecute them.
The farmers needed to destroy the chickens because they were "spent" -- or no longer able to produce eggs -- and could not make chicken soup out of them because the farms were under quarantine for the poultry virus Exotic Newcastle Disease, District Attorney's spokeswoman Gayle Stewart said.
In more humorous news...
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 13:17:50 (EDT)
My two cents are:
She's a bitch who admitted to being a liberal. Can't you read?
Glint
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 13:16:37 (EDT)
My two cents are:
That was me at 13:14. Nobody can say that I am playing the game of cowardly posting anonymously.
Clyde Harrington
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 13:16:19 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Who's Garafolo? I don't get the cable.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 13:14:59 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Nurd????
gotcha!
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 13:14:51 (EDT)
My two cents are:
It was "occassion" and I stopped! Fucker!
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 13:14:20 (EDT)
My two cents are:
When someone writes "hte liebral traitors", I can be pretty sure he's got a pineapple somewhere nearby.
Sherlock Squash
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 13:13:44 (EDT)
My two cents are:
What bothers you about anonymous posting, Glint? I mean, since you do it yourself, and nobody seems to mind. Why does it enrage you when others do it?
Dr. Freud
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 13:13:35 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Aha, this is forensic! Sherlock Squash. OK, here's a quiz: who writes "ocassion" almost every time, and who is responsible for "cemetary" and "viscous?" Hint: they were from a time when titans occupied this site.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 13:12:22 (EDT)
My two cents are:
And, what does all this have to do with your anger, Glint?
Dr. Freud
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 13:09:03 (EDT)
My two cents are:
And there's another one of them weird gotchas. Best to gotcha only the one who committed the line your gotchaing, Glit. There are 22 liebrals here, plus all sorts of pasting from the "media[sic]" In the picture, it looks like less than 200 to me, unless there are a bunch of guys hiding in the tanks that are sealing off the area.
patriot
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 13:08:55 (EDT)
My two cents are:
We all make typos and spelling errors. However, we can also make forensic use to spot patterns in the game of cowardly posting anonymously. They have all traced to the burn barrel, including some L.G. that I omitted from the list below.
Glint
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 13:08:06 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Stupid liebral tird.
Pete�
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 13:06:57 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Is desparate a wrong way to spell desparate? Geesh! The one that really gets me, though, is "ocassion [sic}." I can't come up mellow behind that. And "cemetary [sic]", geesh. Not to mention "viscous[sic]." I think it's mostly liberals who do this, too. Liberals like Garafolo.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 13:02:53 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"Did someone say something about them sealing it off? Not me" - patriot. ◊ "MORE BUSHIST FASCIST LIES--up YOURS…There are no more than 200 people in the square at best. The Marines have the square sealed off and guarded by tanks." - Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 00:07:07
yep, i guess someone did
Glint - Monday, April 14, 2003 at 13:02:33 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Gotcha! You're not Dr. Freud at all! HA!
Glint
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 13:02:02 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Why thank you, Glint. I stand corrected. Desperate it is. Been to any good restraunts lately? Ha ha! Just joking. Now, about that anger problem...
Dr. Freud
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 12:59:39 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Iraqis share graphic tales of regime's torture chambers
By Jack Kelley
USA TODAY
BAGHDAD -- Pictures of dead Iraqis, with their necks slashed, their eyes gouged out and their genitals blackened, fill a bookshelf. Jail cells, with dried blood on the floor and rusted shackles bolted to the walls, line the corridors. And the screams of what could be imprisoned men in an underground detention center echo through air shafts and sewer pipes.
''This is the place where Saddam made people disappear,'' said an Iraqi soldier named Iyad Hussein, 37, describing Iraq's Military Intelligence Directorate in the northwestern suburb of Kadimiya. ''It is a chamber of death.''
The secrets of Saddam Hussein's reign of terror are beginning to emerge. Iraqi civilians who had long feared speaking out about the atrocities for fear of government retribution are revealing in detail what the Iraqi dictator and his regime inflicted on some of the country's 26 million people.
so he tortured people. at least the plinths were still in one peace
patriot - Monday, April 14, 2003 at 12:56:38 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I have to admit Glint is brutal with his weird gotchas, like the one about the Marines "sealing off" the statue circle. He's so triumphant at these moments, like a dachshund that just coughed up a hairball. Did someone say something about them sealing it off? Not me, but if you look at the picture, it looks like they have it sealed off, with a crowd kept back at the top and the 57 guys quite well protected. Glint's point seems to be that the area couldn't be sealed off because the 57 ragheads and the photographers are there. Maybe someone can explain to the poor man again about inside the bubble and outside the bubble.
patriot
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 12:50:40 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"Desparate" you say, good Dr. Hmmm, shall we analyze that word? Here are some samples. Very unprofessional behavior, Dr. Stick this in your barrel and burn it:
Glint
Glint's a desparate[sic] rube."
Anonymous. - Friday, April 04, 2003 at 18:24:14 (EST)
"The Stooges are kind of a guy thing and Pete is desparate[sic]
to be thought of as a guy."
Anonymous. - Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 11:25:07 (EST)
"Because we're about nothing more than buying things, and
desparately[sic] trying to validate ourselves with our lawn-
mowers and telescopes that we can't even figure out how to
use, and looking out at the world with little pig eyes?" Boris Gomez - Monday, March 10, 2003 at 03:34:03 (EST)
"So desparate[sic]. Such an asshole.
Anonymous. - Tuesday, March 04, 2003 at 12:44:24 (EST)
"The crynics of Brazil are desparately[sic] trying to move assets offshore"
Anonymous. - Monday, October 28, 2002 at 22:51:03 (EST)
"You seem desparately interested in the wild-west scene
that the can-fire must have been. OK: like, I'm burning
some clippings and splinters in the barrel."
Law-abiding Citizen - Saturday, October 19, 2002 at 13:20:09 (EDT)
"Somehow, I just can't be angry at Glint for this latest outbreak of desparate[sic] lying. "
formerly tolerant of Glint - Wednesday, October 16, 2002 at 10:11:48 (EDT)
"His sad laments for the likes of Forest and Jeremiah and
MK show just how desparate[sic] the poor, pathetic pervert is."
Anonymous. - Wednesday, September 18, 2002 at 15:38:00 (EDT)
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 12:46:23 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I'd like to give him a big hug even though he's ugly as sin.
Admitted female liberal
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 12:44:00 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Christ! I'm starting to feel sorry for Glint. Yechh!
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 12:37:58 (EDT)
My two cents are:
What do you think, Glint? Think you can come here every day, filled with bile and hatred and nobody's ever going to ask where it comes from? Please! Don't be such a witless asshole.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 12:27:34 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I don't see them as probing questions. They are natural questions in response to Glint's seething, irrational hatred. The boy is running. Sad, really.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 12:23:40 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Ha ha! Good, if desparate, attempt at levity there, Glint. It doesn't hide your pain though.
Dr. Freud
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 12:20:30 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Freud is asking some damn good questions. Glint should stop hiding and answer them. Nobody will hurt him here. This is a safe place. Come on, Glint.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 12:19:15 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Before I answer any of your probing questions, I gotta know how much this session going to cost, Freud.
Glint
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 12:16:34 (EDT)
My two cents are:
No, no. That is unimportant to me. I merely ask questions. Rather than trying to "appear insightful" I am ASKING for insight. Into Glint's anger.
Dr. Freud
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 12:16:17 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Shhhh. Quiet. Fraud Freud is trying its best to appear insightful.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 12:15:02 (EDT)
My two cents are:
let's assume she is a liberal. After all, she said she was one on television. You called her a "bitch" and seemed to justify your ivective because of her admitted liberalism. Please explain.
Dr. Freud
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 12:08:40 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Avoiding the questions will just cause the anger to fester inside, Glint. Don't you think it's time to finally face the demons?
Dr. Freud
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 12:05:46 (EDT)
My two cents are:
What frightens you about female liberals? Have you always been afraid of them? Who hurt you?
Dr. Freud
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 12:02:54 (EDT)
My two cents are:
???
?
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 12:02:47 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I see. She's a liberal. And that causes you to...what, exactly?
Dr. Freud
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 11:57:09 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Gee whiz, Freud char below. Try paying attention next time. (01)
Glint
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 11:54:16 (EDT)
My two cents are:
you ph*ckers are in denial! She's a liberal!
Glint
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 11:52:28 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The bitch even ADMITTED she's a liberal! What more do you want?
Glint
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 11:51:26 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The bitch is a liberal! That's all I'm saying. The rest is none of your beeswax!
Glint
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 11:47:58 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Seriousy, Glint. What exactly did Garofalo do to piss you off? What did she do that was wrong, in your fevered mind?
Freud
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 11:46:04 (EDT)
My two cents are:
What makes her a bitch, squash face?
Dr. Freud
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 11:42:08 (EDT)
My two cents are:
So what?
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 11:40:54 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Mother Jones: "'Steal This Movie!' is your first overtly political film. What drew you to play Anita Hoffman?"
Janeane Garofalo: "My politics are very liberal"
yes, the bitch is liberal
that is, if she's not lying again - Monday, April 14, 2003 at 11:38:47 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Yeah, squash face seems to despise Garofalo more than most. I'd say it's personal.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 11:38:34 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Who's Janeane Garofalo? Another woman could never have?
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 11:36:04 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Will Garofalo follow through on her promise, made to Fox's Bill O'Reilly, that if she is proven wrong and Iraqis welcome U.S. troops who find stores of weapons of mass destruction, �I will go to the White House on my knees on cut glass and say, 'hey, you were right, I shouldn�t have doubted you.'�
During the taped interview shown on the March 6 edition of The Pulse on the Fox broadcast network, this exchange occurred:
O�Reilly: �If you are wrong, all right, and if the United States -- and they will, this is going to happen -- goes in, liberates Iraq, people in the street, American flags, hugging our soldiers, all right, we find all kinds of bad, bad stuff, all right, in Iraq, you gonna apologize to George W. Bush?�
Garofalo promised: �I would be so willing to say I�m sorry, I hope to God that I can be made a buffoon of, that people will say you were wrong, you were a fatalist, and I will go to the White House on my knees on cut glass and say, hey, you were right, I shouldn�t have doubted you. But I think to think that is preposterous.�
Time for Janeane Garofalo's comeuppance?
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 11:35:21 (EDT)
My two cents are:
She's a liberal? The war went well?
I see
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 11:27:11 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Another jackass Liberal who shot off her mouth wihtout a clue.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 11:24:04 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Besides, the "real Glint" is an fat, ugly, squash-faced rube who would suck on Clinton's girlfriend's party dress for a taste of the DNA.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 11:14:11 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"Jubilant crowds in Baghdad show that President Bush and his team were spectacularly right and his critics spectacularly wrong. And this says something about who are the smart guys and who are the dullards in this society--or at least, what kind of mindset leads to good judgments."
Wow, Who Are the Smart Guys? - Monday, April 14, 2003 at 11:11:36 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Sorry, fake Glint@11:03:12. The real Glint cares not about a babe like her's dance card.
Glint
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 11:07:09 (EDT)
My two cents are:
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 11:05:34 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Hey look! It's Clinton's girlfriend in a party dress.
what a dish
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 11:05:06 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Wow, a negress! Baghdad mamma-jamma! Bet she can do the chunky-monkey! Bet she can roll it!
Glint
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 11:03:12 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"Moscow gave Saddam list of assassins"
Russia provided Saddam Hussein's regime with wide-ranging assistance in the months leading up to the war, including intelligence on private conversations between the British Prime Minister, Tony Blair, and other Western leaders, according to Iraqi intelligence documents.
The documents, obtained by the London Daily Telegraph, show Moscow also provided Saddam with lists of assassins available for "hits" in the West and details of arms deals to neighbouring countries.
The two countries also signed agreements to share intelligence, help each other to "obtain" visas for agents to go to other countries and to exchange information.
The documents detailing the extent of the links between Russia and Saddam were obtained from the heavily bombed headquarters of the Iraqi intelligence service in Baghdad.
The sprawling complex, which for years struck fear into Iraqis, has been the target of looters and ordinary Iraqis searching for details about relatives who disappeared during Saddam's rule.
hopefully, those on the list will be visited
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 10:52:45 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Baghdad -- A Moscow-based organization was training Iraqi intelligence agents as recently as last September -- at the same time Russia was resisting the Bush administration's push for a tough stand against Saddam Hussein's regime, Iraqi documents discovered by The Chronicle show.
The documents found Thursday and Friday in a Baghdad office of the Mukhabarat, the Iraqi secret police, indicate that at least five agents graduated Sept. 15 from a two-week course in surveillance and eavesdropping techniques, according to certificates issued to the Iraqi agents by the "Special Training Center" in Moscow.
The Russian government, which has expressed intense disagreement with the U. S.-led war on Iraq, has repeatedly denied giving any military or security assistance to the Hussein regime. Any such aid would violate U.N. sanctions that have severely limited trade, military and other relations with Iraq since 1991.
Tired chickens are coming home.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 10:42:01 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"....There is no evidence of what Uday was doing during his final days in the palace, although a translation of a speech by President Bush on U.N. Resolution 1441 was found near a cracked safe. There was also a stack of printed e-mails in English and Arabic addressed to udaysaddamhussein@yahoo. com from Iraqis living abroad, promising to return to fight�as one correspondent wrote on March 5�athe force that seeks to destroy our country.'..."
Uday <udaysaddamhussein@yahoo>
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 10:37:51 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Pete, check out this hot Baghdad mamma. I bet she can roll.
Glint
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 10:33:03 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"Yo, Glit, what do you think about the wide-angle view of that statue-toppling? Can you count more than 57 guys there??" - Anonymous@21:11. I thought the big picture was when you said "The Marines have the square sealed off and guarded by tanks." (Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 00:07). Oh I see, you're wondering if the square was sealed off, then how did 57 guys sneak through? Or is the plinths? Keep your Henny Penny stories straight, weasels.
Glint
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 10:23:45 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I wish the plinths were still in one peace. They would be if Saddam was still in power.
patriot
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 10:17:08 (EDT)
My two cents are:
We have freed a nation but at what cost? The plinths, oh, the pinths!
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 10:05:14 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Who in the heck is Eddie Vedder? I mean besides besides being a traitor.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 09:53:47 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Looks like attention is switching to Syria. That's a good thing. We lifted the Iraq rock and the bugs scurried around and the ones that aren't dead or captured appear to be hiding under a new rock in Syria. Lift up that rock too and see where they go from there, then follow them, etc. It's almost like a RAID™ commercial. Kills bugs dead.(01)
Glint
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 09:04:37 (EDT)
My two cents are:
They'll be sorry they didn't stand with the gringo against Terrorism, or at least against Iraq, which is after all an Arab country, and the terrorists are Arabs aren't they? Let's see how they like not getting any oil or any contracts to fix the bomb damage! They'll be sorry when we stop importing the crap they sell, and stop letting them buy our stuff. We'll sell to the Bulgarians and the Lithuanians and the Polacks. We'll sell to the Angolans and the Cook Islanders, and we'll import a lot of coconuts and baskets. The world will be sorry it ever fucked with us.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 04:06:03 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Snippy cut out his trip to Canada to address the Canadian parliament about "cross-border issues." Seems the quipster canucks won't use their Persian Gulf anti-terrorism ships to stop senior Iraqis from fleeing across the seas. Well, fuck Canada. They're just a bunch of quipping snowbound eskimos if you ask me. And while you're at it, fuck the French and the Belgians and the Germans. And fuck the Russians, who needs 'em? And where is the Jap when you need a little squint-eyed help? Fuck 'em. And fuck the Chinaman and the goddamn Mexicans who wouldn't help. Who needs 'em? Fuck 'em, we'll go forward with a Coalition of the Unwilling. With all our true friends. New Europe and New Asia and New Western Hemisphere, Uraguay stands with us, does she not? And St. Kitts? British Guyana? All our friends! Fuck the rest. Who needs them?
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 04:01:31 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Amazing. My jaw dropped to the floor when I found out that Pete thinks that cheating on taxes is what makes profits for the tax cheats to pay taxes on. I could only gape in wonderment at his asinine posts! Is this guy brilliant or what?
stunned here in Phoenix
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 03:55:12 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Leave it to the sickness that is liebralism to attempt to confuse a person who creates positive jobs and opportunities with a socialist tyrant. Reality totally escapes these idiots. You aren't worth any more waste of time. You are permanently deranged. The only hope for you now is to become a human shield. Loser.
Pete�
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 01:57:25 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Rupert Murdoch, our own Saddam.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 01:13:05 (EDT)
My two cents are:
People owning stock, buying stock, trading stock and creating capital incentive is WHAT makes this country work. You thieves want to restrict that and thereby restrict the ability of Americans to grow business, jobs and opportunities. That is what allows the greatest good for the greatest number, not redistributive socialsim for losers who won't work. You people are anti-thetical to the entire system of economics. You stupid stupid people are the enemy and don't even know it. Stupid.!
Pete�
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 01:09:29 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Exactly how many cowardly anonymi are there?
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 01:03:33 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The things that amaze Pete would amaze anyone if they were true.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 14, 2003 at 00:21:40 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Enron's employees paid taxes too.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 23:53:47 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Pete has taken to using "amazing" to start most posts.
wide-eyed, slack-jawed, mouth agape asshole
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 23:47:15 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Hell, if the company has to pay taxes, it might as well get the heck out of Bermuda.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 23:45:15 (EDT)
My two cents are:
We want to pay taxes and would if we didn't owe our first allegiance to our stockholders.
black sheep tool co.
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 23:34:34 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Amazing how these cowardly anonymi fail to grasp that private corporations do this for a living. They employ loads of normal people to do this for a living. They pay taxes off the profits they make and in fact this is how a capitalist free enterprise system works. Are they that stupid? Nah, just treasonous socialists. The enemy. Ready, aim, ....
Pete�
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 21:35:50 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Meanwhile, he added, corporate expatriates are lining up for more than $2 billion in lucrative federal contracts with the U.S. government.
Tyco, formerly of New Hampshire, is now located in Bermuda. It avoids paying $400 million a year in taxes through its headquarters offshore, but was awarded $182 million in defense and homeland security contracts in one year, Neal said.
If Tyco had just paid its tax bill, Congress could have easily paid for 400 explosive detection systems which are needed to protect travelers at airports around the nation, he said.
"These are challenging times for all Americans, with war abroad and a struggling economy at home," Neal said. "The last thing the American taxpayer needs to hear is that while costs are going up, fewer will be paying in."
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 21:25:55 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Yeah, those damned Iraqi pilots.
guess we showed them
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 21:17:58 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Yo, Glit, what do you think about the wide-angle view of that statue-toppling? Can you count more than 57 guys there? No fair counting the photographers.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 21:11:13 (EDT)
My two cents are:
If they wanted to keep a tidy museum, maybe they should have left our World Trade Center alone, huh, ever think of that?
patriot
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 21:08:59 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Yeah, they have 37,000 fighting-mean GI's that can whip their weight in sad-sack Arabs. All we need is a plan. Cut deep into North Korea, to some place in the middle, leaving a shambles of the million-man army in our wake. Fire power, that's what it's about. We could have taken the bastards last time, if Eisenhower wasn't such a pussy and peaced out.
Wash them away like driveway grease.
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 21:05:24 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Brainless Snippy, Rumdum didn't have foresight to see what could happen after the conquering, I mean liberating, took place in Iraq. All one has to do is remember the L.A. riots and all the looting, destruction that took place. Could be others like Lance Cpl. Christopher Akins see the museum pieces as stone age junk instead of priceless treasures.
rumdum looks as if he belongs in a museum
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 20:42:46 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I think it's best to jawbone the North Koreans. Those fuckers are crazy. Besides, they have 37,000 US hostages.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 20:12:27 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I want to see military action against the North Koreans. They're the ones that are giving us the finger.
patriot
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 19:06:50 (EDT)
My two cents are:
A Los Angeles Times poll in the first week of April found 50 percent of Americans favoring "military action" against Iran if it "continues to develop nuclear weapons." Never mind that Iran has no nuclear weapons at present and has signed the nuclear non-proliferation treaty. Rumdum so drunk with power he believes Iran would be a walk in the park?
"I'll be judge, I'll be jury," Said cunning old Fury: "I'll try the whole cause, and condemn you to death."
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 18:46:30 (EDT)
My two cents are:
It's not swing voters, it's swing Americans. Learn the nomenclature.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 18:44:21 (EDT)
My two cents are:
It's hard to predict power shifts, especially in this age. We have an electorate so dumb that George Bush came damn close to getting as many votes as Gore. And opinions shift so, it's as if folks are impatient. And it's as if they want to feel like the bucks are going to keep rolling in, they get to keep going to work and pay the bills and all. So you never know about who the power, such as it is, is going to shift to. If I were the dip or his man Rove I wouldn't count the chickens.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 18:43:18 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Hard to keep the swing voters off your gig.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 18:39:27 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I'm on to your gig, "patriot."
Swing American
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 18:27:09 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I tell you, Rumbo wants a medal, but all anyone gives him is shit. They keep asking questions during his question-and-answer sessions. It's ungodly. Why can't they just feed him grapes and rub his grizzled ass with balm of Gilead?
patriot
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 18:26:06 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld had a press conference at the Pentagon. If you listen to him speak, it really makes you wonder what the f**k he's thinking. [Shows clip of Rumsfeld threatening to hold Syria and Iran accountable for hostile acts against the U.S.] Do you see what he just did there? We're in the middle of a war, and he's starting another war. We're already fighting Iraq and he's like, 'Syria, you want a piece?' ...There is nothing like a cantankerous old man who takes a hey-you-kids-get-off-my-lawn approach to foreign policy. The guy's literally just like drunk swinging a broken bottle at people. 'Hey Netherlands, you looking at me?'" �Jon Stewart
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 17:31:43 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Pete just listens to people as he travels among the islands. He knows what America thinks.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 17:23:34 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I didn't know Pete was a pollster.
swing voter
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 17:14:03 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Curses! I forgot all about the swing votes! They're on to my gig!
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 16:57:45 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Did anyone say they were the same person?" Just the samme muted sh*t.
Pete�
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 16:56:50 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I always like Pete best when he pretends he knows something.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 16:50:33 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Ah, the old web sleuth. Wrong. Again.
patriot
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 16:44:47 (EDT)
My two cents are:
First hummer, and then cowardly anonymous, then pensioner and here now is "patriot?" I think not. Anyway, first time here since Friday, April 11, 2003 at 17:57:57, I see the demonrats are still picking up any anysaying kernel. Don't they realize the swing Americans, the ones that count in elections are now on to their gig? Negative, naysaying anti-capitalist socialist traitors. Sorry, but you tirds are toast. No chance of any power shift to you traitors in 2004. None. Kaput. (01)
Pete�
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 16:28:34 (EDT)
My two cents are:
At the National Museum of Antiquities, where priceless artifacts had been wrapped in foam and secured in windowless storage rooms to protect them against U.S. bombs, an army of looters perpetrated what war did not: They smashed hundreds of irreplaceable treasures, including Sumerian clay pots, Assyrian marble carvings, Babylonian statues and a massive stone tablet with intricate cuneiform writing. AS EMPLOYEES RETURNED today to survey the damage at one of the world�s greatest repositories of artifacts, they encountered devastation that defied their worst expectations. The floor was covered with shards of broken pottery. An extensive card catalog of every item the museum owns, some of which date back 5,000 years, was destroyed. A cavernous storeroom housing thousands of unclassified pieces was ransacked so badly that an archaeologist predicted it would be impossible to repair many of the items.�Our heritage is finished,� lamented Nabhal Amin, the museum�s deputy director, as she surveyed a Sumerian tablet that had been cracked in two. �Why did they do this? Why? Why?
Because it's the American way, that's why!
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 15:36:52 (EDT)
My two cents are:
At the National Museum of Antiquities, where priceless artifacts had been wrapped in foam and secured in windowless storage rooms to protect them against U.S. bombs, an army of looters perpetrated what war did not: They smashed hundreds of irreplaceable treasures, including Sumerian clay pots, Assyrian marble carvings, Babylonian statues and a massive stone tablet with intricate cuneiform writing. AS EMPLOYEES RETURNED today to survey the damage at one of the world�s greatest repositories of artifacts, they encountered devastation that defied their worst expectations. The floor was covered with shards of broken pottery. An extensive card catalog of every item the museum owns, some of which date back 5,000 years, was destroyed. A cavernous storeroom housing thousands of unclassified pieces was ransacked so badly that an archaeologist predicted it would be impossible to repair many of the items.�Our heritage is finished,� lamented Nabhal Amin, the museum�s deputy director, as she surveyed a Sumerian tablet that had been cracked in two. �Why did they do this? Why? Why?
Because it'
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 15:36:10 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"Raghead, raghead, can't you see? This old war ain't -- to me," sang Lance Cpl. Christopher Akins, 21, of Louisville, Ky., sweat running down his face in rivulets as he dug a fighting trench one recent afternoon under a blazing sun.
Asked whom he considered a raghead, Akins said: "Anybody who actively opposes the United States of America's way ... If a little kid actively opposes my way of life, I'd call him a raghead, too."
As for non-hostile Iraqis, "I think they can be brought up intellectually, but it'll take some work because they're still in the Stone Age," Akins said. He appeared startled to hear that Iraqis are descendants of ancient Mesopotamia, a thriving civilization that created the world's first known system of writing and body of law, and that until the havoc of Hussein's regime, Iraq also enjoyed a substantial and highly educated middle class.
seize the moment and learn bit of history
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 14:54:33 (EDT)
My two cents are:
WASHINGTON (AFP) - US lawmakers said they would propose legislation to hold Syria accountable for supporting terrorism and pursuing nuclear, biological and chemical weapons.
"Now that Saddam Hussein regime is defeated, it is time for America to get serious about Syria," Representative Eliot Engel of New York said in a statement.
The Syria Accountability Act of 2003, sponsored by Engel and his colleague Ileana Ros-Lethinen of Florida, would allow President George W. Bush to impose sanctions if Damascus fails to meet US demands.
Engel's statement is the latest threat from Washington against Syria in the wake of the apparent defeat of the Iraqi leader.
Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has accused Damascus of secretly shipping military aid to Iraq and helping senior Iraqi leaders flee. Washington also accuses Syria of pursuing banned nuclear, biological and chemical weapons and Damascus is on the US list of regimes supporting terrorism.
In Rome Wednesday, US Under Secretary of State for Arms Control and International Security John Bolton said Syria should heed the lesson of the US-led conflict in Iraq.
"This is a wonderful opportunity for Syria to forswear the pursuit of weapons of mass destruction and as with other governments of the region see if there are not new possibilities in the Middle East peace process," Bolton said.
But US Secretary of State Colin Powell has repeatedly insisted Washington has no plans to attack Syria, even as he has warned Damascus not to support terrorism or pursue banned weapons.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 14:03:25 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I'm sure he and his ilk feel just that strongly about the struggle to liberate Syria from the Syrians.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 13:52:09 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The hell with that, the hell with "liberal" education. Back up your rants. Front and center on the front lines. Put your daughter where your mouth is, gliton for punishment.
Poets for Sending Sgt. Poe to Syria
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 13:42:44 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Hatch Leading Charge to '1984,' Critics Warn
Orrin Hatch
By Christopher Smith
The Salt Lake Tribune
WASHINGTON -- At the same time coalition forces are bringing liberty to Iraqis, organizations on both the left and right of the U.S. political spectrum say members of Congress led by Sen. Orrin Hatch are trying to strip precious rights from Americans.
Utah's senior Republican lawmaker last week quietly proposed and then retracted an amendment to eliminate the Dec. 31, 2005, expiration date of the expanded electronic surveillance authority given to the Justice Department under the USA Patriot Act, the sweeping anti-terrorism legislation quickly passed after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the Pentagon and World Trade Center.
There is growing debate over the complex law's full implications to privacy and civil liberties. Some Republican members of Congress now openly express regret they voted for the bill that Hatch had a direct hand in crafting. Rep. Don Young, R-Alaska, recently called it the "worst act we ever passed . . . stupid."
yep, stupid is as stupid does
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 13:41:04 (EDT)
My two cents are:
No, Poe's destiny is to attend a third-rate college. Don't forget, she's number one in her class!
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 12:03:56 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Hope gliton-for-punishment will be on the front lines of his endless world war--not the pebble driveway drivel, the real war with the real blood, with the raghead casualities the rightwing networks are too chicken to report. More dead now than in 9/11--is that enough for an eye for an eye? Oh. But it wasn't their eye in the first, place was it? Never mind.
or, send Poe
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 11:58:15 (EDT)
My two cents are:
My, my, my. That's one tough chubby guy, the one with the shorts and the squashed face, power-washing his driveway!
patriot
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 11:09:50 (EDT)
My two cents are:
You make a lot of noise and start them scrambling and the ramp is their only escape. Now that they may have pooled in Syria, we could go looking for them, taking care of whatever else gets in the way. Then, if they or the Syrians that gave them comfort manage to find an escape ramp to, say, Tehran, we continue the mop up. These are the kinds of insights one gets from power washing the driveway, as the little rocks and little clods of dirt get pushed along until the entire pathway has been made clear.(01)
Glint
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 10:52:05 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The Americans were recruiting Saddam's hated policemen to restore law and order . . .
plus ca change, except we'll take the oil and give Halliburton the contracts.
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 10:50:44 (EDT)
My two cents are:
A civilisation torn to pieces
Baghdad, reports Robert Fisk, is a city at war with itself, at the mercy of thieves and gunmen. And, in the city's most important museum, something truly terrible has taken place
13 April 2003
They lie across the floor in tens of thousands of pieces, the priceless antiquities of Iraq's history. The looters had gone from shelf to shelf, systematically pulling down the statues and pots and amphorae of the Assyrians and the Babylonians, the Sumerians, the Medes, the Persians and the Greeks and hurling them on to the concrete.
Our feet crunched on the wreckage of 5,000-year-old marble plinths and stone statuary and pots that had endured every siege of Baghdad, every invasion of Iraq throughout history � only to be destroyed when America came to "liberate" the city. The Iraqis did it. They did it to their own history, physically destroying the evidence of their own nation's thousands of years of civilisation.
Not since the Taliban embarked on their orgy of destruction against the Buddhas of Bamiyan and the statues in the museum of Kabul � perhaps not since the Second World War or earlier � have so many archaeological treasures been wantonly and systematically smashed to pieces.
"This is what our own people did to their history," the man in the grey gown said as we flicked our torches yesterday across the piles of once perfect Sumerian pots and Greek statues, now headless, armless, in the storeroom of Iraq's National Archaeological Museum. "We need the American soldiers to guard what we have left. We need the Americans here. We need policemen." But all that the museum guard, Abdul-Setar Abdul-Jaber, experienced yesterday was gun battles between looters and local residents, the bullets hissing over our heads outside the museum and skittering up the walls of neighbouring apartment blocks. "Look at this," he said, picking up a massive hunk of pottery, its delicate patterns and beautifully decorated lips coming to a sudden end where the jar � perhaps 2ft high in its original form � had been smashed into four pieces. "This was Assyrian." The Assyrians ruled almost 2,000 years before Christ.
And what were the Americans doing as the new rulers of Baghdad? Why, yesterday morning they were recruiting Saddam Hussein's hated former policemen to restore law and order on their behalf. The last army to do anything like this was Mountbatten's force in South-east Asia, which employed the defeated Japanese army to control the streets of Saigon � with their bayonets fixed � after the recapture of Indo-China in 1945.
and in Mosul, instead of keeping law and order, American troops were ordered to protect the oil wells. well, well, well. we're not surprised. <more blood for oil>
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 10:47:48 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Some Iraqi wag quipped that the 57 ragheads recruited for the photo op to pull down the statue were the same ones who used to cheer Saddam.
free the Saddamites?
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 10:42:30 (EDT)
My two cents are:
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GOP Orchestrates Dixie Chick Protests
When Dixie Chick Natalie Maines told fans in London that she and her fellow Texas-born chicks were ashamed George W. Bush was a fellow Texan, it started a nationwide backlash against the group. Listeners flooded country music stations with demands they stop playing Chicks songs, fans sent their CDs in to be burned. Good old American pride? Not entirely. according to the blog AmericanNewsreel : " Turns out the whole thing was orchestrated by the National Republican Party. Party operatives spammed their email lists the day after Maines made her statement, urging them to contact radio stations. Phone calls originating from the GOP headquarters in Washington went out to country stations, urging them to remove the Chicks from their playlists."
Bush shit
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 10:41:27 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Have you noticed how many of the dead soldiers, or the soldiers interviewed by the Embedded, are pepperguts? Well, it stands to reason: a lot of them are unskilled, from poor families, and there is the macho thing, although when we think of San Jacinto and Santy Anny and the Alamo it is hard for a true American to think of that as warlike-- more like a propensity to flip a cigarette butt toward a policeman, or ass off at the teacher. Now, this Jessica, who would have thought that her old man would talk like a hillbilly or be a truck-driver? Or that she would be friends with that dead Indian single mother of two who joined the army to have something for the kids. Did you know that over half the women in the service are negroes? Jessica is from a trailer in West Virginia. To her, being a teacher probably looks like a good gig. Now she probably won't be able to cash in on the blonde hair and crinkly nose, because of the nightmares.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 09:52:58 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Close enough schools and we won't need that many cafeteria employees.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 01:57:31 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Private First Class Jessica Lynch, a truck driver's daughter, joined the Army to get a college education to become a teacher. Nationwide, teachers are being laid off, schools closed and college aid slashed to pay for tax cuts for President Bush, Defense Secretary Rumsfeld and other upper-class Americans.
Never before in wartime, with Americans killed, wounded and captured in the line of duty, have the wealthy lined their pockets with tax breaks. With $1.6 trillion in tax cuts favoring the rich already enacted through 2010, President Bush wants more, costing nearly $2 trillion through 2013 � including added interest on the swelling national debt, reports the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities.
That $3.6 trillion in combined tax cuts would cover the total 2004-2007 budgets for Veterans, Community and Regional Development, Medicare and Social Security. Now racked by revenue and budget crises, federal, state and local governments are slashing even the most essential services. The pain has just begun.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 01:49:43 (EDT)
My two cents are:
You know, I just been kidding that it was 57 ragheads and a crane that pulled down the statue. But then I see the wide-angle photo, and it really is maybe 50 or 60 guys, and a lot of American tanks around the circle. Quite amazing. Heard several troglodytes over the past couple days talking about how a tear came to their eyes, they choked up to see the statue come down. Sort of like watching thousands of people beating on the Berlin wall after 40 years of cold war. The sweet taste of freedom. Geesh,this country really has sunk low. Kind of makes you wish that there weren't so many rubes, and that the herd instinct wasn't so strong.
patriot
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 01:20:57 (EDT)
My two cents are:
In an extraordinary performance reminiscent of the Iraqi information minister who assured the world that all was well even as battles raged visibly around him, Mr Rumsfeld quipped:
"The images you are seeing on television you are seeing over, and over, and over, and it's the same picture of some person walking out of some building with a vase, and you see it 20 times, and you think, 'My goodness, were there that many vases? Is it possible that there were that many vases in the whole country?' "
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 01:11:06 (EDT)
My two cents are:
If you look at the loop, they're dragging the statue off and there's a gal fotog with a pony tail and some sort of desert scout outfit scooting along hunched over and beading in on the statue, trying to get action shots. She may be a papparazzo or she may be one of Toria Clark's employees. Even so, my heart swells and a tear comes to my eye every time I see the loop of the 57 ragheads and the tank crane pulling down Saddam.
patriot
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 00:53:08 (EDT)
My two cents are:
MORE BUSHIST FASCIST LIES--up YOURS--The up close action video of the Saddam statue being destroyed is broadcast around the world as proof of a massive uprising. Still photos grabbed off of Reuters show a long-shot view of Fardus Square... it's empty save for the U.S. Marines, the International Press, and a small handful of Iraqis. There are no more than 200 people in the square at best. The Marines have the square sealed off and guarded by tanks. A U.S. mechanized vehicle is used to pull the statue of Saddam from it's base. The entire event is being hailed as an equivalent of the Berlin Wall falling... but even a quick glance of the long-shot photo shows something more akin to a carefully constructed media event tailored for the television cameras.
Source: NYC IndyMedia
Oh.well, we'll always have Paris <xoxoxoxoxxx gullible bushist fascist invasion lemmings>
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 00:07:07 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Jook family values. More like the Kalikaks, if you ask me.
disgruntled Platonist
- Sunday, April 13, 2003 at 00:00:44 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Yah, fuckin' Bushists touting the Socratic method. Like last year's spin 'bout Snippy reading the Nicomachean Ethics. As if. Couldn't even find the Cliff Notes.
disgruntled Platonist
- Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 23:59:02 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Snippy will have to make sure Iraq doesn't become a truly democratic country in case they choose leaders who are anti American. Rumdum favorite is already casting aspersions on this country?
idea of a war to end war is one of its oldest, and cruelest, tricks.
- Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 23:57:12 (EDT)
My two cents are:
What's the deal with this multi-million dollar contract with some American company to reform the Iraqi schools, set up a new curriculum, and show them how to use the Socratic method? If anyone can dig up any information on that one, we'd like to see it posted here. Wife used to be a teacher's aide.
Clyde Harrington
- Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 23:18:46 (EDT)
My two cents are:
What's important is not some old rock idol from the olden days. What's important is oil and the US economy, or at least the Halliburton economy.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 23:16:53 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Garden of Eden? Looks like somebody went in there with some lower middle class rube hobby tractor.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 23:14:08 (EDT)
My two cents are:
They best not have bombed that gnarled old tree supposedly belonging to Adam.
that's sacrilege
- Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 22:50:30 (EDT)
My two cents are:
BAGHDAD (AFP) - US soldiers shot and killed a Baghdad shopkeeper who was defending his shop with a Kalashnikov assault rifle against looters, neighbours told an AFP photographer.
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The merchant pulled his rifle on the thieves when they began sacking the shop, neighbours said.
When US soldiers approached the area, the looters told them that the shopkeeper was a member of Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s Fedayeen paramilitary force.
The American troops opened fire with heavy machine guns, killing the man, the neighbors said.
The photographer saw the covered body of Mohammad al-Barheini, 25, lying on a shelf of his shop, his head in a bag, on the Al-Rashid commercial street in the capital.
He wouldn't have voted for Snippy anyway.
- Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 22:31:00 (EDT)
My two cents are:
They trashed the museum? Gosh, I'd love to see Rumbo come unglued when some reporter asks him about that! I wouldn't even mind Toria Clark's take on it. Can somebody tape it for me? I don't get the cable.
Clyde Harrington
- Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 21:10:13 (EDT)
My two cents are:
You call that Tigris-Euphrates stuff culture? Babylonians? Assyrians? Any way you cut Messopotamia, from 20,000 BC to yesterday, your're talking Jook Family Values. There's more culture in a week of television at the Breighly household than there is in a thousand years "between the rivers." I mean, like, what did they "loot" out of the museum, some four-thousand year old rock "god" with the body of a turkey, pin-curls, and the face of a French pimp?
Captain Archaeology
- Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 21:01:56 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Good thing the looters destroyed all the archaeological artifacts in Baghdad. Sure, the US was warned it would happen, but really who gives a shit about culture. Much less actual life. All we need is the growth of the rube culture of moronism! Hyuk!
The Bushist Fascist Taliban Mentality
- Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 20:20:29 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Figures.
Harl
- Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 19:46:44 (EDT)
My two cents are:
rabbit food
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 19:40:26 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I never eat the stuff anyway. What is it?
Harl
- Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 19:30:03 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I told the local grocer to start calling it Freedom endive, or I'll set up a picket line. I don't fiddle around.
Harlan St. Wolf
- Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 19:24:36 (EDT)
My two cents are:
http://www.probush.com/Tribute.htm
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 17:04:28 (EDT)
My two cents are:
True patriots know that a price of freedom is periodic submission to the will of our rulers �especially when the liberties granted us by the Constitution are at stake. What good is our right to free speech if our soldiers are too demoralized to defend that right, thanks to disparaging remarks made about their commander-in-chief by the Dixie Chicks?
When the Founding Fathers authored the Constitution that sets forth our nation's guiding principles, they made certain to guarantee us individual rights and freedoms. How dare we selfishly lay claim to those liberties at the very moment when our nation is in crisis, when it needs us to be our most selfless? We shame the memory of Thomas Jefferson by daring to mention Bush's outright lies about satellite photos that supposedly prove Iraq is developing nuclear weapons.
At this difficult time, President Bush needs my support. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld needs my support. General Tommy Franks needs my support. It is not my function as a citizen in a republic to question our rulers. And to exercise my constitutional right �nay, duty� to do so would be treason.
Pete�
- Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 16:51:42 (EDT)
My two cents are:
�If we let our vision of the world go forth, and we embrace it entirely, and we don�t try to piece together clever diplomacy but just wage total war, our children will sing great songs about us years from now.�
Richard Perle
- Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 16:42:50 (EDT)
My two cents are:
A Chinese American business consultant from Southern California, Leung spoke Cantonese, Mandarin and English with ease, was well connected and was eager to donate her energy and money to the GOP.
She gave thousands of dollars last year to gubernatorial candidates Richard Riordan and Bill Simon, and they thanked her by name in speeches and on Web sites. U.S. Rep. David Dreier liked his San Marino constituent so much that he recently appointed her as a voting member on the state party's central committee.
Leung's beneficiaries were stunned Thursday to learn federal officials had arrested her the day before, alleging the 49-year-old woman, code named "Parlor Maid," was a double agent who used a romance she'd carried on with an FBI agent since the 1980s to obtain secrets for the Chinese government.
typical GOP traitor
- Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 16:31:19 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Don't bother me. I'm all choked up from watching the loop of the 57 guys and the statue.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 16:21:13 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Both the Kurds and the Arabs are firing on the Americans in Mosul? Didn't we put a sheikh in charge there yet?
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 15:55:45 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Rumbo is right. Boys will be boys. This is all part of the plan: a little looting, a little civil disorder, a modicum of summary executions of the more egregious Ba'athists. That was we don't have to do it.
I never thought as long as I lived I would ever get to use "egregious" in a sentence.
- Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 13:36:26 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Glint is anaesthetized by his dreary upbringing and years of scamming the United States of America. He does not feel. He lashes out, but he doesn't feel.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 13:34:47 (EDT)
My two cents are:
How about a squash? Will a squash pull back?
doubt it
- Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 13:34:01 (EDT)
My two cents are:
What you're describing is not really feeling. Hell, a damn jellyfish will pull back from something that hurts it. Is that feeling?
doubt it
- Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 13:31:42 (EDT)
My two cents are:
If that's not feeling, nothing is!
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 13:31:21 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Sure Glit feels. He's pretty much gone from this site because the truth hurts him. If that's not feeling, I don't know what is.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 13:27:52 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Glint feel? Ha!
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 13:26:52 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Ahh, you're just trying to make Glint feel inadequate. I see right through your little game. You want to make Glint feel that he's not up to the mark as a self-styled Christian. You're trying to make Glint feel as if he's a shitty person, and not the paragon of superior values that he likes to think of himself as being.
Glint Fan Club
- Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 13:16:13 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Rush Limbaugh, for one. I could see Rush spouting off about how it served him right. Maybe I have a skewed idea about Rush, though. The only time I ever listened to him he was in stitches about some crazy woman who jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge, he was sneering at her based on a theory, I guess, that she was not of his political persuasion. So I see Rush as the sort of ghoulish, unchristian asshole who would feel triumphant about the guy getting shot in Palestine.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 13:13:50 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Serves him right? I guess so. But what sort of ghoulish, unchristian asshole would feel triumphant about it?
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 13:11:00 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Dance of the looters taking place in Iraq is a dance choreographed by Snippy administration. Just enough dancing will be allowed in order to prove to the world the people of Iraq are oh so grateful to their conquerors, excuse me I meant liberators. As Rumdum explained - people of Iraq have been victimized for so long it's understandable they would go loot crazy. We're going to be there for a long time. Time needed in order to build a base from which to keep surrounding countries in check. Iraqis believe they will have control when war dust settles? Dream on, people.
Huzzah! Huzzah! I've killed the Devil!" shrieks Punch in his final triumph
- Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 13:02:39 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Treason? That's when you have an enemy, I think, like, maybe someone you've declared war on or has declared war on you? And then to be a traitor one must give aid and comfort to that enemy. Say, you let your enemy bum a smoke, which is both aid and comfort right there. And then, I believe to make it official you have to have a couple of witnesses to the treason, or maybe the suspected traitor has to confess in open court, something like that. The reason for the witnesses or the open confession could be that weak people sometimes get a little hysterical when they feel threatened, and start seeing treason in the open exchange of ideas or expression of opinion. Understand that these are people who are personally and singularly weak, but can join or clump or clot or coalesce with other weak people and develop the vicious strength of a mob. And so our founding fathers in their wisdom established controls on wartime hysteria in our Constitution.
Captain Civics 1A
- Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 12:52:12 (EDT)
My two cents are:
GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip (AP) -- A 21-year-old British peace activist was shot Friday during fighting in the Gaza Strip, the second member of the Palestinian-backed International Solidarity Movement shot this month. Doctors declared him brain dead.
The other, an American, was seriously injured.
The Briton, Thomas Hurndall, from Manchester, was shot by a tank-mounted machine gun, suffering a head injury that left him comatose and hooked up to a respirator, doctors said.
The incident occurred on a road outside the Rafah refugee camp, near the border with Egypt, as activists tried to set up a tent to block army incursions into the camp, witnesses said.
Hurndall was standing between troops and Palestinian children at the time, said Khalil Abdullah, a Palestinian who witnessed the shooting.
Hurndall was declared brain dead after arriving at Rafah Hospital, said Dr. Ali Musa. He later was transferred to Sorokka Hospital in Israel.
The Israeli army had no comment about Friday's shooting but said it would investigate.
The activists often act as human shields, placing themselves between Palestinians and Israelis.
Brian Avery, 24, of Albuquerque, N.M., was shot in the face Saturday during fighting in the West Bank city of Jenin. The army said it was firing at gunmen and was not aware it hit Avery.
Another American member of International Solidarity Movement -- Rachel Corrie, 23, of Olympia, Wash. -- was killed in Rafah last month when she fell in front of an Israeli bulldozer. The group claimed the bulldozer ran over her and then backed up.
The army denied that claim and said the bulldozer operator did not see her.
serves him right
- Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 12:16:00 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Blix: US was bent on war
Nicholas Watt
Saturday April 12, 2003
The Guardian
War against Iraq was a foregone conclusion months before the first shot was fired, the chief weapons inspector Hans Blix has claimed.
In a scathing attack on Britain and the US, Mr Blix accused them of planning the war "well in advance" and of "fabricating" evidence against Iraq to justify their campaign.
Letting rip after months of frustration, he told the Spanish daily El Pais: "There is evidence that this war was planned well in advance. Sometimes this raises doubts about their attitude to the [weapons] inspections."
Mr Blix said Iraq was paying a "a very high price in terms of human lives and the destruction of a country" when the threat of banned weapons could have been contained by UN inspections.
The 74-year Swedish diplomat made clear that he believes he was misled by President Bush. At a White House meeting last October Mr Bush backed the work of Unmovic, the UN inspection team.
But at the time Mr Blix knew "there were people within the Bush administration who were sceptical and who were working on engineering regime change". By the start of March the hawks in Washington and London were growing impatient.
He said he believed that finding weapons of mass destruction had been relegated as an aim and the main objective had become the toppling of Saddam Hussein.
more treason
- Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 11:54:59 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I agree. If that's not treason, nothing is.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 11:47:58 (EDT)
My two cents are:
That long cut and paste? Treason, pure and simple.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 11:32:38 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Whore Watch
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"As for the looting...I'm not against all the looting to tell you the truth. If you're talking about looting Saddam's palaces, or Tariq Aziz's homes, I say go for it! You're just taking back what's yours."
- Winger Pundit Cliff May, CNN (4/11)
Does anyone suspect people like Cliff May and Donald Rumsfeld might respond a bit differently to reports of marauding Enron employees and shareholders looting and burning Ken Lay's homes and yachts, which would represent an identical, pure brand of justice to the looting and arson taking place at the sites Cliff selectively mentions?
Jesus Clifford, and I remember when you were a liberal . . . ugh
- Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 11:12:19 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 10:30:51 (EDT)
My two cents are:
There are, what, a quarter million US soldiers and Marines involved in this thing, and each one has a government computer chip embedded in his butt? How many Timothy McVeighs do you think this thing is going to produce?
Morrie
- Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 10:15:18 (EDT)
My two cents are:
A little too long with the paste.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 10:13:26 (EDT)
My two cents are:
More bloodlust than a real war
By Alan Ramsey
April 12 2003
Behind the gloating of John Howard (restrained), Donald Rumsfeld and the Murdoch communications empire (hysterical), what is there to be proud of? This was no war but a travesty. It was an invasion by 300,000 military forces to "disarm" Saddam Hussein of his "weapons of mass destruction". It was not about "regime change". We know this because our Prime Minister said so, repeatedly, for months. And he wouldn't lie, would he? This was a "war" to strip a "rogue state" of biological and chemical weapons to keep them out of the hands of "international terrorists" and "other rogue states".
When Baghdad fell on the 22nd day of the Anglo-American invasion, with Australia's tiny force no more than the military tea lady, the outcome in numbers, as reported from US central command at Doha, Qatar: US forces 255,000; British forces 45,000; Australian forces 2000. Casualties: US 101 dead, 11 missing, seven captured; British 30 dead; Australian nil. Iraqi military, between 5000 and 10,000 dead (estimate); Iraq civilians, 600 dead and 4000 wounded (estimate).
The air "campaign": 30,000 sorties flown by 2000 US/British aircraft from five aircraft carriers and 30 land bases dropped 20,000 "total munitions" on Iraq's cities, infrastructure, its military and its civilian population. There is, and was, no Iraqi air force. The US/British aircraft were unopposed. To call what this aerial armada did a "war", as distinct from unchallenged slaughter, is to debauch language.
And yet, by the time Baghdad fell, the supposed reasons for the invasion, like Osama bin Laden and Saddam himself, were still missing. Despite the best efforts of the Murdoch group's poisonous coverage, and numerous false alarms, no "weapons of mass destruction", one of the worst of the Iraq adventure's cliches, had been found, anywhere. Washington and London are sure they are there, somewhere.
So is John Howard.
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With Parliament in recess and our politicians spread all over the country - and a good many overseas on various trips and parliamentary junkets, all expenses paid - our Prime Minister two days ago did what he usually does, whether Parliament is in session or not - he spoke to the people through the media, mostly TV and radio.
Howard, in his own way, is every bit the despot Saddam was, the real difference being Australians elected him - and three times, to prove it. His key political weapon is mass distraction, and on Thursday he stood there, in his high-security courtyard at Parliament House, an Australian flag either side of him, and told us: "Good afternoon, ladies and gentleman. I'm sure people all around the world who believe in the principles of freedom and liberty would have been greatly moved by the scenes of jubilation that have been witnessed in the streets of Baghdad and elsewhere in Iraq. I haven't seen such exhilarating scenes since the implosion of the Soviet empire in the late 1980s.
"And what we have witnessed is something the Iraqi people wanted the world to know, and that is they're glad to be rid of the loathsome dictator, Saddam Hussein. And I can only say, on behalf of the Australian Government and the Australian people, we wish the people of Iraq well for the future."
Yes, but what about those "weapons of mass destruction"?
Howard: "Well, I've said all along we wouldn't expect to get hard evidence in relation to chemical and biological weapons until well after hostilities ceased. There aren't signs along the road to Baghdad saying, 'WMD 5ks from here.' They've been obviously passed around and hidden. Some may have been taken out of Iraq. You have to wait until hostilities have ceased and there is an opportunity of further investigating that matter."
Q: "Do you think they've already fallen into the hands of terrorists, Prime Minister?" A: "I don't know."
That, at least, was honest.
Howard would have no more idea of whether Saddam really does have chemical and biological weapons stashed away somewhere any more than he would have the remotest idea what "the Iraqi people wanted the world to know". That's just hubris. Our PM and his Government know only what Washington tells them. And Washington knows only what its Bush zealots want to believe and what its CIA analysts and Israeli intelligence tell them.
What we can be fairly sure of is that, some time and somewhere, either/or both chemical and biological weapons will be found in Iraq, wherever they might first have come from. Oh yes, we can believe that.
Two of the most searing quotes of the "war" have emerged this week from the fog of deceit that has laid over everything the Bush White House has manipulated in ousting the Saddam regime. One was the courageous statement of Dr Ameer Ali, the president of the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils: "The Muslim people of Iraq are fodder for the war machines of America." Nothing has been truer.
The other quote comes from an article by James Meek of The Guardian, in London. Meek's story on Thursday of the taking of Baghdad concluded: "Political dissent at the [house-to-house clearing] persisted as evening fell. 'Bush is a rich bully,' said a heavily armed man standing by the roadside. 'The US has no legal right to be here. Probably Saddam would have sold chemical weapons to somebody some day and then the US would have been right to invade, but now this is the first free democratic country ever to occupy another without good reason.' He was a lance-corporal in the US marines."
I noted two other agency reports that seemed to get lost in the turmoil of the week's events. Remember Howard's remark to the ABC's Kerry O'Brien 12 days ago, in seeking to justify Iraqi civilian casualties, that the International Committee of the Red Cross had reported Baghdad's hospital system was "coping quite well"?
On Tuesday the Red Cross announced in Geneva that its people in Baghdad were now saying Iraq's hospitals "are struggling to cope with a deluge of wounded that is causing growing chaos". Two days later the Red Cross announced one of its Canadian staff had been "caught in crossfire" which killed "as many as 12 people" in a Red Cross vehicle in Baghdad. Red Cross visits to hospitals to oversee conditions had been suspended because "it is too dangerous to move around" the city. Howard said nothing about civilian casualties at his Thursday press conference.
Nobody asked him about them, either.
Instead Howard eulogised the heroic behaviour of the invading forces in these terms: "I want to pay tribute not only to our own forces but also to the British and American forces. They have behaved and conducted themselves not only in a military sense with great honour and distinction but, along with our forces, they have, I think, set new standards of integrity and ethical behaviour in military conflict, the steps that have been taken to avoid non-combatant casualties. The modern soldier is as much a peacekeeper and conciliator as he or she is a military person."
That will stun a few people.
So will his next remark. "Can I say on the question of the media coverage, it's been quite remarkable. I think you all know it has reached a new dimension of penetration and detail. [And] I want to record my sadness that quite a number of your colleagues have lost their lives in this campaign, a reminder you are engaged in a dangerous business on occasions."
Particularly listening to political sludge, Prime Minister.
I, too, noted the "penetration and detail" of some correspondents' reportage, especially those actually in Baghdad who wrote about what they saw, not what they were told 150 kilometres away at US command headquarters.
Robert Fisk, of The Independent of London, for example, wrote on Tuesday: "They lay in lines, the car salesman who'd just lost his eye but whose feet were still dribbling blood; the motorcyclist hit by a shell fired at him by American troops near the Rashid Hotel; the 50-year-old female civil servant, her body pockmarked with shrapnel from an American cluster bomb. For the civilians of Baghdad, this is the real, immoral face of war ..." It was not a face ever seen on the nightly Australian TV news bulletins.
Nor was it a face much read about in our newspapers.
There were exceptions. Paul McGeough of this newspaper, one of the very few Australian correspondents who made it to Baghdad and stayed there, has never written a more moving, more honest account than his story, all over yesterday's Herald front page, of the fall of Baghdad and the military, political and social repercussions to come.
There was no bloodlust headline, just the unemotive strap, "After Saddam", over the full, cross-page lines of reportage: "After the looting has come the soul searching. Jubilant Iraqis had not even beheaded the statue of Saddam Hussein in Karamanah Square before they started asking questions of Washington that revealed a deep distrust of America's intentions." It was journalism of the highest quality, as was his front page account on Thursday of his "searing visit to a Baghdad trauma ward" and the terrible toll John Howard's "standards of integrity and ethical behaviour in military conflict" had wrought, and went on wreaking all week, on Iraqi families across the city of 5million.
You might feel proud, Prime Minister, but I do not, and I venture to suggest very many of our fellow Australians feel exactly the same as me. And I don't give a toss what the opinion polls say.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 08:24:56 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Looting footage? Emdless loop.
nuff sayed
- Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 03:41:04 (EDT)
My two cents are:
As American troops sift through Baghdad rubble looking for evidence of manmade weapons of mass destruction, nature is mounting an increasingly impressive demonstration of the power of her own biological arsenal.
sars invasion
- Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 01:16:46 (EDT)
My two cents are:
They already turned over Basrah to a Sheik for local governance. See these liebral traitors naysay at every turn. It defines their treason and M.O. in politics. For them, it is always politics. It is they who make things unreasonably partisan. Traitors.
President, Hawaii Chapter of the Great Unwashed
- Saturday, April 12, 2003 at 00:42:58 (EDT)
My two cents are:
They say that this is a quagmire, this Iraq thing. Many thinking people say this, both conservative and liberal, and maybe even a few troglodytes. I tend to agree with them. I think that this is going to be a big mess. I think there are a thousand pissed-off Saddamites running around with suitcases full of nerve-gas cannisters. I think Saddam and some of his friends may well be alive and will devote themselves to sniping at gringos for quite a few years to come. I think that our hand-picked reconciliation boys will be regularly hacked to pieces. I think even the 57 delinquents who pulled down the statue will soon weary of the Snippistas in their country. Quagmire. Tarbaby.
independent libertarian
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 23:51:42 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Historically, the US has never supported democracy in Iraq. The stories and events are a laundry list of broken promises and back stabbing, especially for the Kurds. Without getting into all the sordid specifics, the US government was involved in anti-democratic and, frequently, violent operations in Iraq in 1963, 1974, throughout the 1980s, supplying Saddam with money and weapons, and onward into 1990, then 1991 when we prevented the Shia and Kurds from overthrowing Saddam because we wanted a military coup and not a popular insurrection, and then throughout the 1990s when we helped destroy the Iraqi middle class through sanctions that targeted the civilian population and ultimately made Saddam stronger domestically.
and then the sky fell
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 23:36:21 (EDT)
My two cents are:
While visiting England, George W. Bush is invited to tea with the
Queen. He asks her what her leadership philosophy is. She says
that it is to surround herself with intelligent people. He asks how
she knows if they're intelligent.
"I do so by asking them the right questions," says the Queen.
"Allow me to demonstrate."
She phones Tony Blair and says, "Mr. Prime Minister. Please answer
this question: Your mother has a child, and your father has a child,
and this child is not your brother or sister. Who is it?"
Tony Blair responds, "It's me, ma'am."
"Correct. Thank you and good-bye, sir," says the Queen. She
hangs up and says, "Did you get that, Mr. Bush?"
"Yes ma'am. Thanks a lot. I'll definitely be using that!"
Upon returning to Washington, he decides he'd better ask Dick Cheney.
He summons Cheney to the Oval Office and says, "Dick, I wonder if you can answer a question for me."
"Why, of course. What's on your mind?"
"Uh, your mother has a child, and your father has a child, and this
child is not your brother or your sister. Who is it?"
Cheney hems and haws and finally asks, "Can I think about it and
get back to you?" Bush agrees, and Cheney leaves. He immediately
calls a meeting of other former Halliburton execs, and Enron execs, and they puzzle over the
question for several hours, but nobody can come up with an
answer. Finally, in desperation, Cheney calls Colin Powell at the
State Department and explains his problem.
"Now look here Colin Powell, your mother has a child, and your
father has a child, and this child is not your brother, or your sister.
Who is it?" Powell answers immediately, "It's me, of course, you
dumb ass."
Much relieved, Cheney rushes back to the White House and
exclaims, "I know the answer! I know who it is! It's Colin
Powell!" And Bush replies in disgust, "Wrong, you dumb ass, It's
Tony Blair!"
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 23:16:41 (EDT)
My two cents are:
If it was the same looter stealing the same vase over and over, was it the same 57 guys pulling down the same Saddam statue over and over?
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 22:50:42 (EDT)
My two cents are:
It makes me cum to think of a thousand dead guys. (01)
Glint
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 19:24:55 (EDT)
Gliton for Punishment
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 22:48:35 (EDT)
My two cents are:
AP--Indian defence minister joins Pakistan pre-emptive strike chorus.
Domino Theory
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 22:43:12 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Rumbo is a little discouraged that he just won the greatest military campaign since Hannibal crossed the Alps, and yet the press spends little time kissing his ass. Rummy takes it personal, you see. He is crying out, saying, in effect, "what about me? Isn't anyone going to pin a rose on MY nose?" Oh, nooooo, all they want to do is talk about one guy stealing the same vase over and over and over, just as they counted the votes over and over and over.
patriot
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 22:42:41 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 22:42:05 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Rumdum says we're a bunch of Henny Pennys running around saying the sky is falling and there's not that much looting going on. Says it's the same couch being shown over and over and after all during a war stuff happens.
such a turkey lurkey he is.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 22:03:21 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Oh, so you're a leftist? Figures,
Marni
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 22:00:02 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Olson died??? YESSSS!
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 21:59:18 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Take Barbara Olson, for example. Ann Coulter was the only one who mourned Olson on the internet. Many people applauded her death, while most people reserved comment. Still, Olson WAS a very nasty, dishonest woman whose specialty was capitalizing on the pain of others. I doubt she would have been gracious about Hillary or Chelsea Clinton's death. The buck-toothed Nazi bitch gave no quarter. I assume she asked none either. The internet glee at the news of her death was fitting and the way the nasty shrew would have wanted it. Besides, there's the karma thing to consider.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 21:55:08 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The internet is not for the weak sisters. Ask Pete. That man comes here every day, unarmed, to fight the forces of E-vil and sin. It's a horrible thing to see, but quite common on the internet.
if you can't take the heat...
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 21:45:13 (EDT)
My two cents are:
What makes Marni think it was leftists who wrote those evil things?
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 21:42:37 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I have to agree with Marni Soupcoff. The leftists on the internet are too mean on the troglodytes. Like Marni, I tell myself and hope that it is truly the case that not everyone on the left is odious and vile.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 21:19:55 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The war against Iraq has become one of the clearest examples ever of the influence of the military-industrial complex that President Dwight Eisenhower warned against so eloquently in his farewell address in 1961. This iron web of relationships among powerful individuals inside and outside the government operates with very little public scrutiny and is saturated with conflicts of interest.
Their goals may or may not coincide with the best interests of the American people. Think of the divergence of interests, for example, between the grunts who are actually fighting this war, who have been eating sand and spilling their blood in the desert, and the power brokers who fought like crazy to make the war happen and are profiting from it every step of the way.
There aren't a lot of rich kids in that desert. The U.S. military is largely working-class. The power brokers homing in on $100 billion worth of postwar reconstruction contracts are not.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 21:10:25 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Doh! You're right! I forgot that this whole thing, like Dick Cheney's support for the Vietnam war, is predicated on Dick Cheney never having to be uncomfortable.
patriot
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 21:00:34 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Of course, Cheney isn't going to war himself, is he, and is never going to be the grunt who gets his nuts cut off if he is captured by the Syrians.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 20:57:08 (EDT)
My two cents are:
International law, in this case, is the Geneva Convention, which is to some extent self-enforcing. The applicable strictures impose certain bounds on how enthusiastically one nation can rape another nation that it has beaten in war. Guess Cheney didn't think about that one, there being no Geneva Convention behind the SEC or other powder-puffs he has heretofore dealt with.
patriot
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 20:55:34 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I'd say all "international law" is moot at this point. What are they going to do, spank us? HA!
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 20:17:13 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Both Prof. Robert Johansen, a senior fellow at the Kroc Institute for Peace Studies at the University of Notre Dame, and Mark Malloch Brown, the director of the United Nations Development program, pointed out in separate interviews that the Geneva Conventions restrain an occupying power from making long-term commitments, particularly commercial ones, limiting what can be done with Iraq's oil fields.
"Any potential American oil company investing in the modernizing of those fields will need legal assurance that the concessions that it had been granted are secure for a 10- or 20-year horizon, the kind of payback period for the industry," Mr. Malloch Brown said.
"An interim American administration not only would not have the authority in international law to make such commitments, but, certainly, any commitments it makes will be disputed by companies from other countries which claim to have pre-existing concessions."
United States government officials have been mute on oil-related issues, sensitive to the perception that the war has been fought not to disarm a rogue government but to get control of the second-largest oil reserve in the world. Administration officials' only comments have been that Iraq's natural resources should be used only to benefit the Iraqi people.
Doh!
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 19:55:05 (EDT)
My two cents are:
It's not a matter of getting the oil out of the ground," said Raad Alkadiri, a director at PFC Energy, a Washington consulting concern and an expert on the Iraqi oil industry. Addressing the legal and political issues, he said, "is going to take some time, unless the United States is willing to run through this like a bull in a china shop."
At the moment, the United Nations is effectively the trustee of Iraqi oil assets, including the $2.9 billion in oil money currently in a United Nations-controlled escrow fund and the eight million to nine million barrels of oil filling the storage tanks at Ceyhan, a Turkish port on the Mediterranean.
Iraq's two largest oil fields are Kirkuk in the north and Rumaila in the south. Rumaila, with about 430 wells, is now under coalition control. The Army Corps of Engineers and Kellogg Brown & Root, a unit of Halliburton, are already on the ground shutting down wells in Rumaila to ensure that pressure does not build up in the wells and damage them, according to Platt's Oilgram News, an industry newsletter.
Thank God for Halliburton! The wells could have been damaged!
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 19:51:28 (EDT)
My two cents are:
INGAPORE, April 8 � Of all the companies and countries clamoring for a piece of Iraq's reconstruction, one is virtually certain to be invited: the Philippines.
No matter which companies ultimately win contracts from Washington to rebuild Iraq's roads, airports, hospitals or other structures, officials in Manila expect to supply thousands of Filipino laborers to them. "I'm confident that if they're looking for skilled workers, they'll come to us," said Patricia A. Sto. Tomas, the secretary of labor and employment.
Pinos! Always the goddam Pinos!
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 19:47:56 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Maybe someday Glint will be able to frolic on the graves of Iraqis.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 19:27:36 (EDT)
My two cents are:
It makes me cum to think of a thousand dead guys. (01)
Glint
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 19:24:55 (EDT)
My two cents are:
We are a gentle, peace loving people. But, WE WILL DEFEND OURSELVES!
Harlan St. Wolf
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 19:20:01 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The sonofabitches shouldn't have messed with the red, white, and blue.
patriot
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 19:17:56 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I say we use that oil for the Iraqis. A free tank of gas for the first 1000 customers!
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 19:14:32 (EDT)
My two cents are:
RUMAILAH OIL FIELDS, IRAQ�The U.S. continued to make progress in its fight against totalitarianism Tuesday, when 137 more oil wells were liberated for democracy.
Above: The U.S. flag flies high atop a newly liberated oil well.
"For decades, these oil wells have suffered untold misery under Saddam Hussein's tyrannical rule," said U.S. Commander General Tommy Franks, speaking from southern Iraq's Rumailah oil fields, the site of the liberation. "With this victory, these long-oppressed wells will soon pump their first barrels of crude as free and equal wells in the global petroleum marketplace. They will join the ranks of the world's liberated oil wells, enjoying the same rights as their democratic brethren around the globe."
The Rumailah wells are the latest of nearly 900 to be freed from the yoke of oppression by coalition forces. As U.S. troops continue to advance deeper into Iraq�armed with constant standing orders to "Secure the oil wells; repeat, secure the oil wells"�an estimated 1,500 more wells are expected to be liberated in the coming weeks.
For months, U.S. officials have gone to great lengths to assure the public, both in America and abroad, that the Iraq invasion is not motivated by oil interests�a sentiment echoed by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld during a press conference Monday.
"This war is not about oil," Rumsfeld said. "Our decision to intercede against this dictator and not against the dozens of other ruthless dictators in the world is not about oil. France and Russia's opposition to this war is not about the purely coincidental fact that both countries have lucrative, pre-existing oil contracts with Iraq. Furthermore, the interest of many U.S. corporations in the war has nothing to do with oil, either. This war is about liberty. Oil wells deserve liberty, too."
Continued Rumsfeld: "These oppressed Iraqi oil wells deserve the right to pump oil as freely as any other oil well on God's Earth�be it in Saudi Arabia, Nigeria, or an Alaskan wildlife refuge. It is crass and cynical to view this operation as being motivated by greed, profit, or the second-largest oil reserves in the Middle East. This war is motivated by one thing: democracy. Our military action is meant to provide all of Iraq's oil wells�be they big or small, staggeringly lucrative or merely very lucrative�with their God-given right to pump under a democratic system of self-governance."
In the weeks leading up to the war, the U.S. sought to make its intentions clear by air-dropping hundreds of thousands of pamphlets over Iraq assuring its people that the U.S. was not launching a war against them, but against Saddam Hussein. The pamphlets also gave Iraqi soldiers instructions on how to surrender properly, as well as a promise that they would be treated well if they did so. Most importantly, though, they included a stern admonition to all Iraqis not to burn any oil wells, warning that they would be hunted down and prosecuted as war criminals if they did.
U.S. officials hope that the pamphlets' message, especially the part about the oil wells, gets through.
"These valuable natural resources belong to the Iraqi people, who rely on their output for desperately needed food and medicine under the U.N.'s Oil-For-Food Program," Franks said. "But ultimately, we need to remember that these oil wells do not really belong to anybody. They, like any other free oil well, have the basic, inalienable right to independent representational government and self-determination under their own rule. Every oil well deserves to choose how and when it wishes to produce oil, and for whose economic benefit."
Aiding the wells in their transition to democracy will be Texaco, Mobil, and other U.S. businesses, each of which bring years of expertise in dealing with the problems and challenges that oil wells face in a free society. These private companies will be well-equipped to help manage the oil wells as they make the difficult adjustment to producing oil in freedom.
Despite the apparent inevitability of victory in Iraq, White House sources stress that the battle for oil-well liberty is far from over.
"We must remember that there are many, many oil wells living under oppression all across the world, not just in Iraq," White House press secretary Ari Fleischer said. "Until every oil well enjoys the fruits of democracy, no oil well is truly free."
LIBERATION AT LAST
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 18:45:14 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Democracy and Freedom Bloom in Iraq
- - - - - - - - - - - -
By Patrick McDowell
April 10, 2003 | NAJAF, Iraq (AP) -- A crowd rushed and hacked to death two Shiite Muslim clerics -- one a Saddam Hussein loyalist, the other a returning exile who had urged support for U.S. troops _ during a meeting meant to forge reconciliation at one of Shiite Islam's holiest shrines, witnesses said.
An unknown number of people were injured in the melee at the shrine of Imam Ali, one of the holiest sites of Shiite Islam, practiced by the majority of Iraqis.
"People attacked and killed both of them inside the mosque," said Ali Assayid Haider, a mullah who traveled from the southern city of Basra for the meeting in Najaf.
Reporters were taken by the U.S. military to witness the meeting, which was meant to show a spirit of reconciliation and openness among religious leaders in Najaf, which fell to U.S. troops at the end of March. However, the group arrived late in Najaf, and the killings had already taken place.
The shrine had been under the control of the widely disliked Haider al-Kadar, a Saddam loyalist who was part of his ministry of religion.
In a gesture of reconciliation, al-Kadar was accompanied to the meeting by Abdul Majid al-Khoei, a high-ranking Shiite cleric and son of one of the religion's most prominent ayatollahs, or spiritual leaders. He had just returned a week ago from exile in London to help restore order in the city.
When the two men appeared at the shrine, members of another faction loyal to a different mullah, Mohammed Baqer al-Sadr, verbally assailed al-Kadar, furious that he was there.
"Al-Kadar was an animal," said Adil Adnan al-Moussawi, 25, who witnessed the confrontation.
Apparently feeling threatened, and wanting to defend his fellow cleric, al-Khoei pulled a gun and fired one or two shots. There were conflicting accounts over whether he fired the bullets into the air, or in the crowd.
Both men were then rushed by the crowd and hacked to death with swords and knives, the witnesses said. Later, blood could be seen on a marble sidewalk near the gold-domed mosque.
TWO HELICOPTERS FULL OF JOURNALISTS WERE FLOWN TO WITNESS THIS LITTLE RECONCILIATION. OOPS.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 18:40:12 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Yet even as US commanders cite dramatic success in the three-week-old war, many look upon the wholesale destruction of Iraq's military and the killing of thousands of Iraqi fighters with a sense of regret. They voice frustration at the number of Iraqis who stood their ground against overwhelming US firepower, wasting their lives and equipment rather than capitulating as expected.
"They have no command and control, no organization. They're just dying," says Brig. Gen. Louis Weber, an assistant commander of the 3rd Infantry Division. This week, the division's 2nd Brigade Combat Team killed at least 1,000 Iraqis by direct fire alone on a single raid into Baghdad, he said.
Snippy's gift
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 18:36:18 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Earlier, in a battle to isolate Najaf, US commanders called for airstrikes partly out of an aversion to mowing down Iraqis with direct fire.
"There were waves and waves of people coming at them, with AK-47s, out of this factory, and they were killing everyone," says Lieutenant Colonel Radcliffe. "The commander called and said, 'This is not right. This is insane. Let's hit the factory with close air support and take them out all at once.'"
For some soldiers, trauma is already sinking in. "For lack of a better word, I feel almost guilty about the massacre," says one soldier privately. "We wasted a lot of people. It makes you wonder how many were innocent. It takes away some of the pride. We won, but at what cost?"
Snippy's gift
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 18:34:38 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Cry me a river, Marni Soupcoff.
traitor who should be shot
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 18:32:17 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Cry me a river, Marni Soupcoff.
traitor who should be shot
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 18:32:02 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Pete, have you like ever given anything any, you know...thought? Just curious, because you have a tendency to repeat yourself over and over.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 18:28:25 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Pete is beginning to think Americans are the enemies of America? Wow!
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 18:25:01 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Eyewitness: Baghdad in turmoil
By Rageh Omaar
BBC Baghdad correspondent
The Red Cross has said it is worried about the chaos in Baghdad as the looting continues.
Looting began a day after US troops entered central Baghdad
The United Nations says the American forces have a duty under the Geneva Conventions to protect hospitals after a gang stole incubators and heart monitors.
The looting that began two days ago on government offices and Baath party official residences is on the verge of getting out of control.
The American forces in Baghdad are setting up checkpoints and trying to secure more areas of the city.
But there just are not enough of them.
World turned upside down
There is a real semblance of disorder in the city.
Hospitals need to protect their patients with guns. A place meant for saving lives has been turned into a war zone.
Where are the Americans now?
Iraqi woman
Iraq's post-Saddam era has begun, but it looks like a world turned upside down.
State institutions are set ablaze, there is wholesale looting.
This is a picture of a city descending into chaos.
It has left ordinary Iraqis angry and disillusioned.
What makes them bitter is that this is taking place under the nose of the most powerful military force of the world.
One woman said to me that the Americans said they were coming to liberate, and all she can see is fire.
"Where are the Americans now?" she asks.
Ruin and lawlessness
At one point during the day we crossed a bridge where there was an American checkpoint.
It was safe. Half an hour later we returned and it was strewn with the wreckage of burnt-out vehicles.
Several ministries and Baath party offices were set on fire
The Iraqi capital, one of the most ancient Arab cities, is being reduced to ruin and lawlessness.
The ministry of information where foreign journalists used to have their offices is destroyed.
The dead are being buried on hospital grounds.
Even the most basic services are not functioning.
THIS ISN'T LIBERATION, THIS IS ANARCHY.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 18:11:06 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Shut up, dickheads.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 18:02:49 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Shut up, dickhead.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 18:02:23 (EDT)
My two cents are:
TRAITORS: Journalist Michael Kelly died in a humvee accident while embedded with the 3rd Infantry Division in Iraq. Most of North America mourned his loss, but a disturbing few people didn�t. Instead, they were positively joyous about the Washington Post columnist�s death. Because he was considered a conservative, they figured, he had it coming.
Here are some of the comments that posters on the Democratic Underground website made about Kelly�s death. (Note: the link to these comments on DU�s page has since been rendered inactive, but John Hawkins has preserved the comments) on his Right Wing News site.)
ptahptah: �Good riddance to bad garbage. � F*ck him. � He was a slanderous/undemocratic/smearing/lying piece of sh*t�
mjb4: �One down�kill them all for glorifying the war.�
jackswift: �Wonderful news I�m assuming his family won�t be reading this, but frankly I�m gratified to learn that he paid the ultimate price for his sins of warmongering.�
casual_observer: �That guy was a sanctimonious son of a b*tch who got what was coming.�
Does anybody really have it coming when the �it� in question is death? I don�t know. I suppose I must think so because I support the death penalty for mass murderers. By the same token, I won�t shed a tear if the United States is successful in bombing one of Saddam Hussein�s palaces with the big man in it. But I still cannot imagine celebrating, cheering, and basking joyously in the light of anyone�s death, even a bloody-handed tyrant such as Hussein. What then can explain such a gallingly happy reaction to the death of a respected, high-minded journalist such as Kelly (who, it�s appalling to have to mention, has neither killed nor tortured anyone)?
People who can make comments like those of the Democratic Underground posters have become so immersed in the political and social game of hating the Right that they have lost touch with the only reason to be vehement about any political persuasion: Caring about human beings (which, of course, the Left is supposed to be all about).
Yes, there is room for disagreement about what ideology will best advance which interests, about whose rights should be foremost, about how much control government shoults, about whose rights should be foremost, about how much control government should wield. But at heart, even in the most democratic of societies, is there really room for disagreement about whether a journalist whose only sin has been to advocate from a conservative point of view, and to support the war on Iraq, deserves to die?
Legally, the answer is yes: the Democratic Underground posters presumably have the good fortune to live in the United States where their right to express their opinion, even when that opinion is odious, remains strong. But morally, the answer is no.
That people on the political left truly believe a talented, morally upright man like Michael Kelly deserved death (while a violent killer like Saddam did not) is a frightening sign of the amoral void into which the far left has fallen. To them, it doesn�t matter that Saddam has murdered and tortured and starved, or that Michael Kelly has not. It matters only that Michael Kelly was on the wrong side of the debate. And for that he deserved to die.
When I first read the Democratic Underground posts expressing this idea, I thought I was going to vomit. Quite literally, my stomach began to churn, my face flushed, and I could feel my eyes welling up with liquid. What hope is there for any of us if this is the state of compassionless �ideology� that�s lurking out there, I wondered. What a terrifying display of hate. And what a vile message: the value of your life as a human is only as great as your left-wingedness. Thinking like this would do the brutal Stalinist regimes of yore proud.
In the time since first reading these despicable comments and similar others, and after reading a number of refutations of the vile ideas by self-proclaimed liberals elsewhere, I have come to the conclusion that the posters on the Democratic Underground do not represent the majority of the Left. And I truly hope this is the case.
In the mean time, though, these people�s degraded attacks on a dead man who dared disagree with them are a good reminder of why the U.S. is fighting the current war in Iraq: to ensure that no one need live in a country where holding the wrong political views is punishable by death.
-Marni Soupcoff�s column appears each Friday.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 18:02:04 (EDT)
My two cents are:
HALLIBURTON WINS CONTRACT. (had anyone any doubts?) love, BU$H.
TO THE INVADERS BELONG THE SPOILS
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 18:00:52 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Man Glint at 14:56. It is always about the sick socialsit power grab at politics. Naysay at every turn. These people truly are the enemies of America.
Pete�
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 17:57:57 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Thank you for showing everyone that the Turkish people and their Parliament are not for sale, not even for 26 billion dollars.
Thank you for revealing to the world the gulf that exists between the decisions made by those in power and the wishes of the people. Thank you for making it clear that neither Jos� Mar�a Aznar nor Tony Blair give the slightest weight to or show the slightest respect for the votes they received. Aznar is perfectly capable of ignoring the fact that 90% of Spaniards are against the war, and Blair is unmoved by the largest public demonstration to take place in England in the last thirty years.
Thank you for making it necessary for Tony Blair to go to the British Parliament with a fabricated dossier written by a student ten years ago, and present this as 'damning evidence collected by the British Secret Service'.
Thank you for allowing Colin Powell to make a complete fool of himself by showing the UN Security Council photos which, one week later, were publicly challenged by Hans Blix, the Inspector responsible for disarming Iraq.
Thank you for adopting your current position and thus ensuring that, at the plenary session, the French Foreign Minister, Dominique de Villepin's anti-war speech was greeted with applause - something, as far as I know, that has only happened once before in the history of the UN, following a speech by Nelson Mandela.
Thank you too, because, after all your efforts to promote war, the normally divided Arab nations, at their meeting in Cairo during the last week in February, were, for the first time, unanimous in their condemnation of any invasion.
Thank you for your rhetoric stating that "the UN now has a chance to demonstrate its relevance", a statement which made even the most reluctant countries take up a position opposing any attack on Iraq.
Thank you for your foreign policy which provoked the British Foreign Secretary, Jack Straw, into declaring that in the 21st century, "a war can have a moral justification", thus causing him to lose all credibility.
Thank you for trying to divide a Europe that is currently struggling for unification; this was a warning that will not go unheeded.
Thank you for having achieved something that very few have so far managed to do in this century: the bringing together of millions of people on all continents to fight for the same idea, an idea that is opposed to yours, President Bush.
'THIS ISN'T LIBERATION, THIS IS ANARCHY." QUOTH THE IRAQI
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 17:55:41 (EDT)
My two cents are:
It will teach them to pick a fight with us!
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 17:49:10 (EDT)
My two cents are:
We got them before they got us. Good thing too. That was one powerful adversary!
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 17:44:30 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Damn right we beat the bad guys! Now, peace reigns, which drives the liberals crazy!
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 17:10:03 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Have we won the war in Iraq yet? I don't get the cable.
Clyde Harrington
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 16:57:12 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Used to run into roadside judges in Pennsylvania. Smokey would give you a ticket and demand bail on the spot.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 16:55:51 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Roadside "judges?"
shore, that's what we call 'em down to home
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 16:53:23 (EDT)
My two cents are:
???
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 16:52:38 (EDT)
My two cents are:
???
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 16:52:36 (EDT)
My two cents are:
That's right. California is the land of milk and honey for displaced rubes. Hell, there's more okies here than in Oklahoma. More Cornholers than in Nebraska. More Hawkeyes than in I-o-way. We try and keep them in Bakersfield and Stockton, places they feel comfortable in, but there's just too many of the inbreed fuckwads. On the other hand, lots of them become productive citizens and find work. It's either that or back to shitsville. See, you still need the Dough-re-mi!
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 16:50:43 (EDT)
My two cents are:
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- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 16:44:27 (EDT)
My two cents are:
California knows how to deal with rubes? You betcha, place is chock full of 'em. Come from every corner of the country they do. Generation upon generation from top to bottom of the state shaped like a bent pud.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 16:43:32 (EDT)
My two cents are:
There's not enough food from Chile to feed the fat-ass Cornholer.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 16:39:42 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The Californian thinks they're the only ones who get pinched by roadside "judges." What a bunch of rubes.
New Yorkuh
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 16:30:47 (EDT)
My two cents are:
All of our food comes from Argentina and Chile. That plus grains from the heartland.
eastner
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 16:29:02 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Californians have always had to deal with the resentment of rubes. Anybody who's driven through Arizona with California plates knows the drill. All a dude can do is smile, pay the fine and keep on truckin'.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 16:26:17 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Maybe it is time for us Californians to reach out to our customers and find out what makes the rube tick. A little outreach can't be a bad thing. On the other hand, fuck 'em.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 16:21:54 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Glint, we Californians are a mellow people, more than happy to supply the likes of you with your food, technology, entertainment and casual attire. But, be warned that your jealous rantings may someday backfire on you. We can take your pathetic barbs, but someday we may just decide to cut you off and watch you flop on the sidewalk like a beached manatee. Hell, that might even be kind of bitchin' to watch.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 16:17:48 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Why does Glint despise Americans?
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 16:10:02 (EDT)
My two cents are:
That's why they're all moving back to Nebraska.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 16:05:13 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Don't the troglodytes understand that the only sane energy policy for this country is to put a hefty tax on gas, so that the money goes to America rather than OPEC? Oh, that's right, I forgot about short-term greed. Forgot that these guys were Republicans.
political philosopy hobbyist
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 16:04:44 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Man, life is sure tough out there in Californy!
Ruben Bubble
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 16:01:14 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"US lawmakers approve Alaska oil plan"
Representatives in the US Congress have approved plans for oil drilling in a wildlife refuge in Alaska.
The Republican-led House of Representatives late on Thursday rejected an amendment to a new energy bill which would have banned drilling in parts of Alaska.
if it lowers gas prices in calibania them i'm against it!
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 15:58:33 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Perfect! An ugly fuck who calls women he could never have skanks. A Mebraska rube seething about the Golden State. This rube is the whole package!
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 15:57:33 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I like the political philosophers take on the hacking: "One of the two in Najaf was pro-Saddam and the other was trying to moderate the crwod that didn't want to be moderated because of their anger for the saddam regime." Whew, I'm glad that Pete's inside dope is that the fact that the guy's getting hacked to death for trying to moderate the crowd didn't have anything to do with the fact that he was Wolfenstein's boy, a hothouse dude brought in from outside the country to lead the multitude of Shees away from the evil influence of Teheran! Thank God Pete sees through all the bullshit and is able to repeat exactly what Torie says.
patriot
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 15:56:14 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Sacramento -- California lawmakers are considering a plan that would boost the state's already sky-high gas prices to help fund environmental cleanup programs.
i say jack it up, sky's the limit!
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 15:53:21 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I'll be danged! Squash-Face WAS talking about them skanks! Don't that beat all? Fat dumb ugly dude like him.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 15:52:26 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The calm of peace? Where might that be, In Country Bumpkin?
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 15:50:36 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Not at all, dumb fck. It's the calm of peace that Liberals despise. Gives them nothing to whine about and they have to keep their clothes on when making chocolate striped snow angels.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 15:49:11 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Glint, you're not talking about them skanks again are you, pretty boy?
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 15:43:27 (EDT)
My two cents are:
You need an excuse to strip naked and make pancake prints in the snow?
Dumfounded Liberal Snow-pancaker
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 15:42:26 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Liberals despise the calm of war.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 15:35:06 (EDT)
My two cents are:
For the chaos high, man!
liberal
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 15:33:22 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Why do liberals want the sheik to get hacked to death?
Glint
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 15:32:40 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Spoken like a true Basra expert!
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 15:28:15 (EDT)
My two cents are:
You know the Liberals despise calm. They aren't gleeful unless there is chaos. Every shiek for himself! - that would float their boat. They love disorder because it without it they wouldn't have any excuses to strip and make pancake prints in the snow.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 15:22:35 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Doesn't he have a sheikdom already?
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 15:21:09 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Pete, why are you so sure this is the right sheik for the job?
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 15:07:22 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Who would you have chosen, Glint? Which sheik?
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 15:05:22 (EDT)
My two cents are:
So, Glint, would you say it was a tactical error choosing this particular sheik to run your beloved Basra? I defer to your expertise.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 15:03:57 (EDT)
My two cents are:
If there's any hacking to be done, I'll be the one to do it.
Pete's Sheik
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 15:01:49 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Hard to argue with a Basraphile like Glint.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 15:00:52 (EDT)
My two cents are:
A sheik who has yet to be hacked to death I might add.
Glint
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 14:58:16 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Uh, nobody said Pete's sheik had been hacked to death yet. Did they? Well, DID THEY? This guy may be hack proof.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 14:57:27 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Yeah, Pete, these guys don't understand, the way you and I do, that they already turned over Basrah to a Sheik for local governance. See, Pete, these liebral traitors naysay at every turn. It defines their treason and M.O. in politics. For them, it is always politics. It is they who make things unreasonably partisan. Traitors. (01)
Glint
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 14:56:26 (EDT)
My two cents are:
April 10 � The crowd gathered outside the house of Muzahim Mustafa Kanan al Tamimi, the sheikh the British are appointing to take over civil administration of Basra. He�s better known as Gen. Al Tamimi, a former brigadier in Saddam�s army who more recently taught at the military school. When the shouting began, we thought at first the crowd was just chanting slogans against Saddam Hussein�s Baathists, but they were also chanting against Sheikh Muzahim. �No no Baathists, no Muzahim.�
Avoided hacking thus far
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 14:53:59 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Pete's right, you stoopidz! His favorite sheikh in Basra, Saddam's brigadier general Muzahim Mustafa Kanan al Tamimi hasn't been hacked to death yet. Get with Pete's program, will ya?
patriot
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 14:48:42 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Basra is my hobby.
Glint
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 14:38:26 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Glint pretending to know something. Precious!
go in country bumpkin go
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 14:31:22 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Boggles the mind when one observes how peaceful Iraq is now they're experiencing freedom.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 14:28:23 (EDT)
My two cents are:
You don't think they are really going to get clue one? They don't know Basra from Boston. Cluelessly clucking away like a hen down on the farm, scratching around the chopping block picking at feathers on the ground. <> Hey Pete, I wonder what the protesters are going to be protesting today. I expect that sooner or later they'll be protesting against the peace in Iraq. Maybe the hack job wouldn't have happened if one of the human shields down there would have been on the ball instead of sitting outside a hostpital shaking its head at the looters and going tsk tsk.
Glint
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 14:22:14 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Must be a slow day at the law offices of Poli-phi.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 14:21:30 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Look stoopidz, the two who were hacked to death were in Najaf. One of the two in Najaf was pro-Saddam and the other was trying to moderate the crwod that didn't want to be moderated because of their anger for the saddam regime. The dude in Basrah is different. Get a clue.
Pete�
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 14:09:08 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Amazing that the coward at 11:28, would even know the word "credibility." Must be a typo. You don't know squ*t.
Pete�
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 14:05:27 (EDT)
My two cents are:
WASHINGTON (AP) - Former President Clinton and his wife, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, have sent $28,000 worth of household goods back to Washington after questions arose over whether the items were intended as personal gifts or donations to the White House.
"We have been informed that it is being shipped back, and the National Park Service is ready to receive it, take possession of it and take custody of it," Jim McDaniel, the National Park Service's liaison to the White House, said Wednesday.
"The property is being returned to government custody until such time that the issues can be resolved. It may well turn out that that property is rightly the personal property of the Clintons."
After they were criticized for taking $190,000 worth of china, flatware, rugs, televisions, sofas and other gifts with them when they left, the Clintons announced last week that they would pay for $86,000 worth of gifts, or nearly half the amount.
Their latest decision to send back $28,000 in gifts brings to $114,000 the value of items the Clintons have either decided to pay for or return.
typical trailer trash traitors
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 14:02:57 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The dying Iraqi fighter looked deep into the faces of his intended victims -- two American journalists -- and with an outstretched hand whispered a plea: "Kaka, kaka."
My brother, my brother, he said as his life ebbed away from the gunshot through his abdomen.
Excellent illustrated piece
"Kill him! Kill him! Get it over with, get rid of him," screamed Sabir Abdul Rahan, one of the militiamen.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 13:56:27 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Boy, I'll bet Clinton is real depressed. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 13:47:35 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Not imbibing the golden nectar tonight. Have organized a workshop for the Girl Scouts at an undisclosed location.
Glint
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 13:45:29 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Bill Clinton was booed Wednesday night when he took the stage at the Beacon Theater at the start of a Willie Nelson concert. "The place went wild when [Clinton] was announced," said one attendee. "There was loud booing and yelling." Clinton "seemed angered" and made a comment about "angry Republicans," which stirred the crowd on more. "There was so much anti-Clinton booing and yelling that when Willie came back out, he asked if everyone was all right . . . the concert was taped for a Memorial Day showing on the USA network, but even with serious editing, it will be hard to use the Clinton part at all."
Don't tell me that he forgot to pull his pants down?
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 13:40:42 (EDT)
My two cents are:
What good is beer when they're hacking your boys to death over in Iraq? What part of liberation and nation-building don't those ragheads understand? I'm too bummed for beer. (01)
Glint
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 13:33:28 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Faux? Stop with the French, traitor!
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 13:32:41 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Curses! Foiled again by the code!
Roger Willko
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 13:32:07 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Is that a fact, Faux Glint?
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 13:23:41 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Hey, it's Beer Friday, dude!
In Country Bumpkin's day!
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 12:52:45 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The sooner we root these traitors out of society, the sooner we can be free of government jack-booted thugs.
Glint
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 11:40:46 (EDT)
My two cents are:
LOS ANGELES - The executive producer of a CBS miniseries about Adolf Hitler's rise to power has been fired after giving an interview in which he compared the current mood of Americans to that of the Germans who helped Hitler rise to power.
According to The Hollywood Reporter, Gernon was fired Sunday (April 6) from Alliance Atlantis, the production company making "Hitler: The Rise of Evil" for CBS. He had worked there 11 years and was head of the firm's long-form programming division.
"Hitler" has caused controversy ever since CBS announced its intentions last summer. In an interview with TV Guide about the four-hour film, scheduled for May, Gernon compares many Americans' acceptance of a war in Iraq to the fearful climate in post-World War I Germany, of which Hitler took advantage to become its ruler.
"It basically boils down to an entire nation gripped by fear, who ultimately chose to give up their civil rights and plunged the whole nation into war," Gernon said in the interview. "I can't think of a better time to examine this history than now."
another traitor silenced
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 11:39:44 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Any new hackings to death today, or did the fellas all agree to disagree?
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 11:29:39 (EDT)
My two cents are:
So there might not be any chemical or biological or nuclear weapons. Get over it. Move on. We toppled the statues, and that's all that matters. The only thing damaged is America's credibility, and that and a buck and a half will buy you a pineapple.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 11:28:58 (EDT)
My two cents are:
You see, as the old Arab proverb says, "it is much easier to see the warts on a camel's belly if you stand three miles from the camel."
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 11:26:52 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Well, you see, it was a compendium of bits of information, sort of a statistically-supported herd concept. We had a lot of guys wired to Cheney and Rummy who wanted to take out Saddam and grab his oil, and they closed their eyes and wished really really hard for something that would sell it to the schmo back in Nebrasky. Low and behold, it turned out that if you squinted your eyes and held your head sideways you could convince yourself that maybe sometime in the distant future Saddam would have something dangerous that he could give to Osama if he and Osama weren't sworn enemies. This was enough for the schmo in Nebrasky. (Now don't think I have anything against the schmo in Nebrasky, I just use him as a symbol of the lowest common denominator, the gullible cluck that you have to get on your side if you want to turn your country into the international equivalent of a Republican lynch mob.)
patriot
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 11:25:24 (EDT)
My two cents are:
So just how do with know that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction?
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 11:03:40 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The European Commission is examining contracts awarded by the US for reconstruction work in Iraq to find out whether they breach World Trade Organisation rules and discriminate unfairly against European companies.
The move could throw up a new irritant at a time when relations between Washington and Brussels are already severely strained by the highly critical stance adopted by many European Union members towards the war in Iraq.
Congress cafeteria now serving freedom sprouts
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 10:52:59 (EDT)
My two cents are:
ASHINGTON, April 10 � The Pentagon contract given without competition to a Halliburton subsidiary to fight oil well fires in Iraq is worth as much as $7 billion over two years, according to a letter from the Army Corps of Engineers that was released today.
The reconstruction effort could cost up to $100 billion and become one of the most lucrative building programs in decades.
Vice President Dick Cheney was Halliburton's chief executive from 1995 until 2000. When he left the company to run for vice president, Mr. Cheney received over $30 million in compensation.
Since the attacks of Sept. 11, Kellogg Brown & Root has won significant additional business from the federal government and the Pentagon. It has built cells for detainees at Guant�namo Bay in Cuba and is the exclusive logistics supplier for the Navy and the Army, providing services like cooking, construction, power generation and fuel transportation.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 07:03:45 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Why in the earth future Iraq should pay the international debt caused by Saddam? In fact, why should the Iraqis do anything now but sit back and relax and watch the oil revenues pile up in their coffers? The guy who was controlling their natural wealth has had his statues toppled, right? Now it's every man a bhagwan, isn't it? Every man a sheikh of Araby? What could possibly go wrong for the average Iraqi now?
Angolo-bulgarian
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 06:58:19 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Now that's some high pie. Not bad for a guy who keeps his pants on.
Dances With Piecharts
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 06:54:19 (EDT)
My two cents are:
They already turned over Basrah to a Sheik for local governance. See these liebral traitors naysay at every turn. It defines their treason and M.O. in politics. For them, it is always politics. It is they who make things unreasonably partisan. Traitors.
Card-carrying Member of the Great Unwashed
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 06:52:59 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Yahoo. We kicked ass!
Cornbelt Moron
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 06:52:06 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Why in the earth future Iraq should pay the international debt caused by Saddam? It is like saying, "remember you are arabs thus still stupid unclefuckers ".
European
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 05:16:25 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Lots of tragic things hidden in the black part of the pie. Not that the average citizen gives a big damn.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 00:20:11 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I think that right about now they need a lawyer more than they need a sheikh. I smell big bucks in this thing.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 00:05:09 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The poor Marines really went down and busted open the official Iraqi atomic waste dump? Who is responsible for those poor boys? Has a sheikh been appointed to look after them?
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 00:04:04 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Did I show you the pie chart or what? Is that some high pie or what? That pie chart is cast in bronze. That is a pie chart you can take to the bank. That's a "we won the war" pie chart.
Glint
- Friday, April 11, 2003 at 00:02:08 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Just when you start thinking Carl Rove is a pretty sharp dude, you get something like Dick Cheney sent out to peddle the war and do the victory sneers. Hey, that's worth what fifty or sixty points for the Snippy administration right there, through Friday at least.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 23:59:28 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I ain't no gullible fool.
Butt-dumb Honyocker
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 23:51:21 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Bobbsey Twins made a televised address to the Iraqi people promising that their future lay in the hands of Iraqis. Trouble is, weeks of bombing has shattered communication networks therefore message failed to reach the Iraqis.
maybe they scould try sky writing?
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 23:50:31 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Ann Coulter calls them the way they is.
Television-watching Ignoramus
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 23:50:09 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Rush Limbaugh don't gild no lilies.
Thick-skulled Clodhopper
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 23:49:23 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Fox News don't give out no bum steers.
Dumb Rube
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 23:48:25 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I may not be a fashion plate, and I may get my history out of cable TV, but I'm from Nebrasky and I studied computer engineering, so I ain't no dumb bunny. I knows success when I see it, and when I see a bunch of ragheads hollering in the street and pullin down statchoos I know that is what success is. Might as well set the oil to flowin' and go home.
Rube from the Heartland
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 23:46:23 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Show me where it say that an army conquering a country is responsible for ensuring civil administration of the country. I say let the buggers go wild, sorry the liberation ended in victory. Sort of takes the billows out of the quagmire bellows.
Dumb Guy
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 23:38:25 (EDT)
My two cents are:
They already turned over Basrah to a Sheik for local governance. See these liebral traitors naysay at every turn. It defines their treason and M.O. in politics. For them, it is always politics. It is they who make things unreasonably partisan. Traitors.
Here ya go, sheikh. Basra. Yours. Snippy's too busy.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 23:34:48 (EDT)
My two cents are:
April 10 � The crowd gathered outside the house of Muzahim Mustafa Kanan al Tamimi, the sheikh the British are appointing to take over civil administration of Basra. He�s better known as Gen. Al Tamimi, a former brigadier in Saddam�s army who more recently taught at the military school. When the shouting began, we thought at first the crowd was just chanting slogans against Saddam Hussein�s Baathists, but they were also chanting against Sheikh Muzahim. �No no Baathists, no Muzahim.�
Could it be? No to Pete's favorite sheikh?
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 23:33:30 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I'm still waiting to hear about Pete's sheik down there in Basra. Has he got those Basranis under control yet?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 23:29:30 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Nobody is going to hack anyone to pieces. That was a fluke. Still, before we put our guy in, before we put him on television, let's make sure that the audience doesn't have swords. It would be bad outreach if the next hacking went out live on CNN. Our pie chart can take only so many guys hacked to death on live feed.
patriot
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 23:28:34 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Tommy Franks is going to have to put an end to this hacking to death of Wolfenstein guys. Or Wolfie is going to get pissed and put the hammer down. We don't have that many Iraqi expatriot toads that we can afford to get them hacked to pieces like this.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 23:25:56 (EDT)
My two cents are:
How can anyone naysay? Can't you read pie charts? The pie chart says it all, dude. That is the pie chart that will end pie charts. The mother of all pie charts. There will never be a pie chart that says anything else. People like this war, on April 10, 2003. They think it's a sweet deal. What could possibly go wrong?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 23:23:12 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Why are the nay-sayers pink? Does that reflect what happened to them? That's a poll of Germans in 1941, right?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 23:20:28 (EDT)
My two cents are:
They already turned over Basrah to a Sheik for local governance. See these liebral traitors naysay at every turn. It defines their treason and M.O. in politics. For them, it is always politics. It is they who make things unreasonably partisan. Traitors. Look, there's no looting in Nebrasky. No trouble at all, except from the Mexican wetbacks. And Nebrasky don't need no half a million troops to keep things calm. Don't even need a sheik, hacked to death or not. This will be just like Nebrasky. The 51st state. The people kiss pictures of president Bush there fer cherist sake.
Dances with Rubes
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 23:18:59 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Now that's some high pie. Not bad for a guy who keeps his pants on.
Glint
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 23:17:44 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I heard that Tommy Franks was the Bhagwan. This is, after all, Tommy Franks's war. So I guess Tommy is responsible for civil administration in Iraq. It was a famous victory.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 23:16:19 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Who's this guy, the retired general, Garner? The new civil authority? He's got a plan for getting the place on track, right? A plan leading to free elections in, oh, six months? And getting that oil pumping with contracts with American companies? Piece of cake.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 23:15:13 (EDT)
My two cents are:
What now, Rube?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 23:10:26 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Ahh, it's the celebrant! It's Victory Boy! It is, in short, the Rube of Nebrasky! How do, Rubeola?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 23:09:35 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Sorry that the liberation ended in victory. Sort of takes the wind out of the billowing quagmire sails, doesn't it? (01)
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 23:06:22 (EDT)
My two cents are:
If we can get Snippy appointed president, we should be able to get a pro-American goober elected Bhagwan of Iraq.
Rove
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 23:01:12 (EDT)
My two cents are:
If they keep hacking out mullahs to death, we'll just start a whispering campaign?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 22:59:15 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Hey, do you know why this is going to be a piece of cake? Because we know how to handle the jaspers. The same way you handle the American voter. We'll just lie to them. Piece of cake.
Rove
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 22:58:21 (EDT)
My two cents are:
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tarbaby
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 22:56:55 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Liebral traitors. Once the Shia start dancing in the street for you, they never stop. This will be an endless honeymoon.
Ann Limbagh
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 22:55:06 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Why do the liberals want our hand-picked expatriot Shiite mullahs to be hacked to death?
Glint
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 22:53:36 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Don't you just love the lunatic right wing? If there wasn't any dogshit for them to step in, they'd run over to the pound and buy a bucket.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 22:52:44 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Treason, this is all treason. You don't need half a million troops to restore order in a country of 80 million people, 75 million of whom have K's. As soon as we find a local sheik to put in control of Baghdad, like the guy in Basra, and maybe back him up with whatever ex-patriot mullahs haven't been hacked to death, we can feel free to send the guys up to Tikret to clean out the Saddamites. This thing is in the bag, if I do say so myself. A cakewalk. Who do we attack next?
Glint Fan Club
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 22:51:05 (EDT)
My two cents are:
One of the problems with these Shi'a, they tend to be loyal to ayatollah's over there in Iran. You bring in some Shi'a cleric from London, a guy who's pals with Wolfenstein, there's no telling whether they'll hack him to pieces or not. I guess that's why the retired generals embedded in TV studios say that this might take a few more troops than Rummy figured it would.
patriot
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 22:47:24 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I trust Pete's sheik has got the looting under control? The Shi'a of Basra are happily under his governing thumb?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 22:45:15 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I figure that sheik can look forward to a long and happy career in the civil service. After all, he has Pete's OK.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 22:43:30 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Oh, yeah. Pete's Sheik of Araby: "They already turned over Basrah to a Sheik for local governance. See these liebral traitors naysay at every turn. It defines their treason and M.O. in politics. For them, it is always politics. It is they who make things unreasonably partisan. Traitors.
Pete�
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 15:06:09 "
The luckiest sheik in southern Iraq
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 22:42:45 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Can Bush become a sheik? That would be the bomb!
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 22:39:40 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Pete's hobby is monarch worship. A sheik! Talk about your rulers!
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 22:38:59 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The guy I'm worried about is the sheik that Pete so proudly announced had been selected to run Basra. Has that particular sheik been hacked to death yet?
patriot
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 22:32:37 (EDT)
My two cents are:
So, this guy who was hacked to death, he was one of Wolfie's hand-picked leaders of the new Iraq, eh? He was there to reconcile for the Wolfenstein.... I'm sort of glad I didn't give in to my compulsion and celebrate with Glint about the great victory and the new day dawning...
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 22:31:24 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Fleischer has always supported looting. He works for Snippy. Duh!
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 22:30:43 (EDT)
My two cents are:
White House press secretary Ari Fleischer called the scenes of joyful Iraqi defiance of Saddam Hussein's fallen regime "a powerful testament to mankind's desire to live free
so joyful they had a big looters party
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 22:26:35 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Make her go back to Free Iraq. We don't need her anymore.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 22:20:27 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Not only that, Clinton started bombing Iraq back in 1998 and never stopped. This has been a 5 year war. But the blood is on Snippy's hands. You just know Clinton would have won this thing clean, with even France, Germany and Russia on board, plus the UN. Maybe not Lithuania though. Or Angola.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 22:18:22 (EDT)
My two cents are:
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On March 14, when President Bush was seeking international support for an invasion of Iraq, he summoned Iraqi exile Katrin Michael to a meeting in the Oval Office, where she recounted her horrific story of being gassed by Saddam Hussein's troops in 1987.
That day, White House spokesman Ari Fleischer and State Department spokesman Richard Boucher both used the meeting as an opportunity to issue statements attacking Hussein for his use of chemical weapons. And Michael told her story on National Public Radio and ABC-TV.
A week later -- on March 21, the day after the war began -- Michael received a letter from the Immigration and Naturalization Service demanding that she report to a deportation officer.
"I was scared, I got crazy," says Michael, 53, who works as a translator for the Iraq Foundation in Washington. "I asked the deportation officer, 'You're going to deport me in this war situation?' And he said, 'No, you should be detained.' I said, 'I met President Bush last week and now I'll be in jail in America?' "
This morning, Michael is scheduled to meet with her deportation officer. "I'm going to take a picture of me with President Bush and show it to him," she says.
The White House declines to discuss Michael or the deportation action against her. A White House press officer referred inquiries to the National Security Council, which referred inquiries to the State Department, which referred inquiries to the Department of Homeland Security, where Greg Gagne, spokesman for the Executive Office of Immigration Review, uttered this on-the-record comment:
"We don't discuss these things."
that's YOUR Bush!
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 22:17:50 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Yeah, what happened to all those demoralized troops that Clinton created? And that military hardware that he allowed to rust and disintegrate. Looks like he took Poppy's dumb bombs and educated them. Even the Patriot Missle (the missle that couldn't shoot straight) works. Big Dog rules!
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 22:15:15 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The Gliton-For-Punishment has failed to notice that under Dim Son's moronist policies, market has already tanked. Big time. Duh.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 22:07:22 (EDT)
My two cents are:
CHENEY: CLINTON'S MILITARY WON IRAQ WAR
Former Secretary of Defense Credits Clinton Military with "One of the Most Extraordinary Military Campaigns Ever Conducted"
"A commander in chief leads the military built by those who came before him. ."
- Dick B. Cheney, Speech to Southern Center on International Studies
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 22:04:39 (EDT)
My two cents are:
If virtue counted for anything in this country, the whole Bush Gang would be up on treason raps.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 21:57:10 (EDT)
My two cents are:
So far you're right. Now is not the time to lower prices at the pump, not by much. I see them sinking, then slowly rising, then -BAM!- dropping like a rock in water, say about July, 2004. Maybe as late as October if an October Surprise is needed.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 21:49:58 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Sure, a short term stategy. Once the election is over, whether Snip wins or loses, watch that pump. This is when the greed factor kicks in. Big time.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 21:47:50 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Why do the liberals want the DOW to sink and my investments to bite gas?
Glint
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 21:47:47 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Not so sure about the Snip's ability to move prices downward at election or any other time. He has fair chances of influencing a price increase. Lowering prices, on the other hand, would run into the greed factor... is a Republican able to overcome greed for an immediate dime in order to get twenty cents later? Hasn't Snippy's economic plan so far demonstrated that the answer is no?
traitor
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 21:45:34 (EDT)
My two cents are:
SEVERAL things are likely to happen after this war to ensure this free access.
First, America will ensure that a friendly regime takes power in Iraq, so that pro-US companies are the chief beneficiaries of future oil concessions. This way, it will control the supply of Iraqi crude oil by proxy. Currently, of the five biggest oil companies in the world, four - ExxonMobil, Amoco, Chevron-Texaco (all American) and British Petroleum - are not present in the Iraqi oil sector. That they covet it is obvious.
As former Chevron chief executive officer Kenneth T. Derr said in a speech two years ago: 'Iraq possesses huge reserves of oil and gas - reserves I'd love Chevron to have access to.'
Next, the United Nations will play a part in rebuilding Iraq only after a pro-US regime takes power. America is also likely to ensure that the UN does not manage Iraq's oil sector, so that it can stave off competition, from France and Russia in particular.
In World War I, as Britain fought to take over the crumbling Ottoman empire's territories, which included Iraq and its oil reserves, War Cabinet Secretary Sir Maurice Hankey observed: 'Control of these resources becomes a first class war aim.'
Ninety years on, the aim remains the same.
traitor
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 21:41:58 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Never underestimate Snippy's ability to lower prices at the pump right at election time. This is his economic plan and the rubes tend to eat it up. Never mind that unemployment will hover at 10%, or that the Dow will continue to sink or that businesses will go bankrupt. Watch that pump! The Pioneers have it covered!
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 21:40:17 (EDT)
My two cents are:
NEXT, the IPC exploited only 5 per cent of its total concessions in Iraq and held the rest in reserve. It also withheld Iraqi crude from the world oil market, so that the value of the oil its subsidiary companies produced elsewhere would appreciate.
This meant that the Iraqis themselves received little benefit from the development of their own natural resource.
When Iraq caught on, it nationalised the oil sector through Law 80 in 1961, which expropriated all of IPC's concessions that were held in reserve.
Eventually, America and Britain lost control of the oil market to France and the Soviet Union. That has remained the case until today.
The US Department of Energy reported two months ago that TotalFinaElf, France's leading oil conglomerate, had signed a deal with Iraq to develop the Majnoon oil fields, which potentially hold reserves of up to 30 billion barrels. Russia's interest in Iraqi oil can be seen in its recent US$3.7 billion (S$6.5 billion) 23-year deal to rehabilitate Iraq's ageing oil fields.
traitor
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 21:39:20 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The Bush administration may claim that it has only altruistic aims. But if history and geo-political realities are anything to go by, that is hardly the full truth.
In the last century, great power rivalry and corporate competition have dovetailed in the name of oil in Iraq.
For example, after World War I, the world's leading powers - Britain, France, Holland and later America - formed the Iraq Petroleum Company (IPC) and signed the Red Line Agreement of 1928 for the joint and peaceful exploitation of hydrocarbon deposits.
This agreement ensured two other things.
First, the nationalistic aims of the Kurds went unanswered. Their traditional homeland, which encompasses northern Iraq, was and still is rich in oil deposits.
Hiving it off as a separate state would have involved the re-negotiation of oil concessions, a burdensome process which the major powers were keen to avoid. It therefore suited their interests to ensure that this region remained part of Iraq.
traitor
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 21:37:53 (EDT)
My two cents are:
What's stunning, simply stunning to me is poor Glit's idea that the Snipster has a plan to lower oil prices. Wow, gas is donw to 50% more than when Snip was appointed president! Doesn't the rube understand that it doesn't matter where the oil comes from, it still sells for the same price, and half of it comes from Texas? Kind of makes you wonder what will go first, the poor sap's hope that he'll start making money again, or his belief that someone is going to give him a break on gas.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 21:28:09 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Everything Snippy says or does is just perfect. I love the man.
patriot
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 21:19:36 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Not to worry. Snippy administration will see to it that a bunker-penetrating bomb will be dropped on these "entitlements" for servicemen/women.
the little rat-terrior watchdog
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 20:45:26 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I say the troops should just accept their fate and not go crying to the taxpayers about their so-called "disabilities" after the shooting stops. They served their purpose, now they need to get the fuck out of the way and not start whining about their fucking "entitlements."
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 20:34:11 (EDT)
My two cents are:
On the other hand, why are the troops so poorly trained that they wouldn't know better than to break UN seals on radioactive material? Now, Rummy's going to have to scurry like hell to deny the servicemen's claims that are sure to follow.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 20:30:37 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Interesting how the rubes just keep jumping on these initial reports even after Rumdum himself said they're generally just bullshit. It's as if the troglodytes are HOPING out troops stumble on WMD and die. Why do the trogs want the troops to die?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 20:27:53 (EDT)
My two cents are:
D'oh!
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 20:25:55 (EDT)
My two cents are:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=540&e=10&u=/ap/20030410/ap_on_re_mi_ea/war_nuclear_find_2
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 20:24:14 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I think his approval rating in Iraq is pretty dang high. And that's without a tax cut!
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 20:07:44 (EDT)
My two cents are:
East Bagtown Shi? You mean the guys who can't even pull down a statue without an Abrams tank?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 20:02:02 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Well, the bottom line as I see it is that Little Bush is admired, even respected, by quite a number of the young male Shi'a muslims of East Baghdad. How long this will last is anybody's guess, but let's bask in it while we may.
patriot
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 19:58:02 (EDT)
My two cents are:
L.G. has the common touch too. For a sophisticate, he knows when to throw in a "doncha know" for the rubes.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 19:57:54 (EDT)
My two cents are:
L.G. humor is too sophisticated for my taste. I'm after bellylaffs here.
Dances With Rubes
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 19:54:35 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Well, I sure don't think L.G. is witty beyound belief!
Francis X. Hix
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 19:50:12 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The glass if half full. Today's shot U.S. serviceman is tomorrow's picnic area.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 19:34:10 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Don't try and understand L.G. Just shake your head and enjoy.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 19:32:56 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Glit will think about American servicemen getting shot if and when Fox News decides it is time for him to think about American servicemen getting shot.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 19:32:50 (EDT)
My two cents are:
L.G. is a third-rater who labors mightily to fashion fourth rate posts that he/she is convinced are witty beyond belief.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 19:32:13 (EDT)
My two cents are:
You'd think that Glint's search for a college for his honor roll daughter would include at least a couple of schools with actual admissions requirements and perhaps academic reputation. Is this the fate of Carroll County students, to be cast on the academic slag heap in the real world?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 19:29:58 (EDT)
My two cents are:
What is it about olive loafs like L.G. that makes them want to think of tough people like Saddam "quivering?" It gives me a picture of lard-assed Pete sitting in his Salvation Army Barcalounger screaming at the television set that the quarterback is a sissy. Or Glint oblivious to the fact that American servicemen are getting shot, talking about how his famous victory and let's invade the next place. Is L.G. a woman, or just another of these queers?
patriot
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 19:27:47 (EDT)
My two cents are:
It was a poli-phi major with an avocation for the study of warfare and treason. Then, it was onto Harvard and an advanced degree in sloth law.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 19:23:04 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I though Pete majored in WWII naval battles. Just another of his lies?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 19:16:17 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The Iraqis became more civilized under Saddam Hussein, if you look at history. Saddam's predecessor, after all, was ripped to shreds in the street, without the use of swords and knives. Maybe next time they'll do the right thing and use smart bombs.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 19:05:20 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Pete's had a hard-on about treason for years now. One of these days, Ashcroft is going to call on the old Poli-phi major.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 19:03:25 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"Hold Your Applause: America broke Iraq; now America owns Iraq, and it owns the primary responsibility for normalizing it. If the water doesn't flow, if the food doesn't arrive, if the rains don't come and if the sun doesn't shine, it's now America's fault. We'd better get used to it, we'd better make things right, we'd better do it soon, and we'd better get all the help we can get. "
If this isn't treason, I don't know what is.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 18:54:24 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The Left has placed its people in comic books? So now the only place left for right-wing lunacy is in government and talk radio?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 18:36:38 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Geesh, if there are as many gas bombs and nukes in Iraq as Fox News has been turning up I'm scared just as shitless as Pete, only retroactively.
patriot
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 18:28:22 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I didn't know Glint had hamsters. Or that he named one after jism. Ol' Glint! What a card!
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 18:23:04 (EDT)
My two cents are:
US President George Bush said on Tuesday that Saddam's fate remained unknown.
"I don't know whether he survived," President Bush said.
a satanic cat with 9 lives?
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 18:08:42 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Stop harshing our mellow, traitor!
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 17:53:41 (EDT)
My two cents are:
So, you liebrals are going to begrudge the newly-liberated some celebratory hacking? geesh.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 17:50:57 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Bears repeating. More so than the rube cheers.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 17:46:49 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Old news.
posted previously at 12:07:06
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 17:36:23 (EDT)
My two cents are:
NAJAF, Iraq - A crowd rushed and hacked to death two Shiite Muslim clerics - one a Saddam Hussein loyalist, the other a returning exile who had urged support for U.S. troops - during a meeting meant to forge reconciliation at one of Shiite Islam's holiest shrines, witnesses said.
An unknown number of people were injured in the melee at the shrine of Imam Ali, one of the holiest sites of Shiite Islam, practiced by the majority of Iraqis.
"People attacked and killed both of them inside the mosque," said Ali Assayid Haider, a mullah who traveled from the southern city of Basra for the meeting in Najaf.
Reporters were taken by the U.S. military to witness the meeting, which was meant to show a spirit of reconciliation and openness among religious leaders in Najaf, which fell to U.S. troops at the end of March. However, the group arrived late in Najaf, and the killings had already taken place.
The shrine had been under the control of the widely disliked Haider al-Kadar, a Saddam loyalist who was part of his ministry of religion.
In a gesture of reconciliation, al-Kadar was accompanied to the meeting by Abdul Majid al-Khoei, a high-ranking Shiite cleric and son of one of the religion's most prominent ayatollahs, or spiritual leaders. He had just returned a week ago from exile in London to help restore order in the city.
When the two men appeared at the shrine, members of another faction loyal to a different mullah, Mohammed Baqer al-Sadr, verbally assailed al-Kadar, furious that he was there.
"Al-Kadar was an animal," said Adil Adnan al-Moussawi, 25, who witnessed the confrontation.
Apparently feeling threatened, and wanting to defend his fellow cleric, al-Khoei pulled a gun and fired one or two shots. There were conflicting accounts over whether he fired the bullets into the air, or in the crowd.
Both men were then rushed by the crowd and hacked to death with swords and knives, the witnesses said. Later, blood could be seen on a marble sidewalk near the gold-domed mosque.
"I think it remains to be seen what actually happened," said Maj. Dave Andersen, a Marine spokesman. "But this will be a challenge for Iraq itself and the sects inside it to co-exist and basically come to some kind of agreement or unity.
"This is going to be one of the real challenges because this is a historic trouble spot," Andersen said, referring to Najaf.
Al-Khoei was among the prominent returned exiles. Arriving in Najaf April 3, he said local clerics were attempting to negotiate a deal whereby Iraqi loyalists would leave the mosque in return for safe passage out of the city. Al-Khoei heads a London-based philanthropic group.
His father, Ayatollah Abul-Qassim al-Khoei, was the revered Shiite spiritual leader at the time of the 1991 Shiite uprising crushed by Saddam. He died in 1993, two years after he was forced to meet Saddam to prove loyalty. The meeting was televised by Iraqi TV in a gesture to humiliate the Shiites.
Al-Khoei told The Associated Press recently that he has urged his followers in the Shiite cities to stay at home and let the U.S. troops do their job. He said Saddam's tactics of urban warfare and the use of paramilitary militias made it highly risky for the population to revolt.
A tearful Ghanem Jawad at the Khoei foundation in London confirmed that al-Khoei had been attacked, but didn't know if he'd been killed.
He accused a group of "followers of the regime" of attacking the men.
Al-Khoei had lived in London since he defected after the 1991 Shiite uprising.
He returned to Najaf last week, shortly after it was liberated by U.S. troops.
"It is difficult now to convince people that the Americans mean business and they want to get rid of Saddam," al-Khoei told the AP from London in March 26.
After his arrival in Najaf, he told the AP by telephone that he and a group of exiled Iraqis have helped persuade locals in Najaf to cooperate with U.S. troops.
Najaf is the seat of the Shiites' spiritual leaders, known as ayatollahs, and the center for scientific, literary and theological studies for the Islamic world.
For the world's nearly 120 million Shiites, Najaf is the third holiest city, behind Mecca and Medina in Saudi Arabia.
Victory! Liberation!
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 17:18:26 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Aid? Why should we give them a thing? We liberated them. That's enough. Fucking ingrates!
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 17:16:07 (EDT)
My two cents are:
So, what do you figure to be the ongoing cost of foreign aid to Iraq? 6 billion per year? That's my guess. How long do you think it's going to take Congress to stop voting that 6 billion? Any guesses?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 17:11:35 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"Marines Find Possible Mobile Bio-Weapons Lab"
- By Rick Leventhal -
BAGHDAD, Iraq � U.S. Marines near Baghdad may have found a mobile biological- or chemical-weapons lab, Fox News learned Thursday afternoon.
Resembling a refrigerated truck from the outside, and containing guided-missile support equipment, the truck was found to have a false internal wall that concealed an remote-controlled electronic pulley-and-winch system and several open bins and containers.
Investigators told Fox News the system resembled a hazardous-materials lab, where substances could be mixed, cooled and heated without direct human contact.
Hazardous materials may have been found inside the truck as well.
Marines found the truck parked at what resembled a construction site, but it started to drive away as they approached and refused orders to stop. The U.S. forces fired upon the truck. There was no information on the driver, but video footage of the scene showed the driver's-door window shot out.
Anti-aircraft guns, a surface-to-air missile and several caches of weapons and ammunition were also found at the site.
this is just the beginning
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 17:08:40 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Demo of latest cool Microsoft product, Microsoft RG. Follow the link below, and then click on [Run WinRG Demo]!
worth it!
DemoWindows RG Demo page - Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 17:00:38 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"Anti-war protesters regroup; say their new focus is 'anti-occupation'"
WASHINGTON (Agence France-Presse) Apr 10, 2003 -
Far from celebrating the presumed quick end to the war in Iraq, US peace activists say they are outraged at the prospect of a lengthy military occupation there, and are gearing up for more protests.
Massive rallies had been planned for this weekend to call for an end to the US and British-led war, across the United States and in major cities around the world.
Now organizers say the rallying cry of those protests will be an end to the impending occupation of Iraq by coalition forces.
Sara Flounders, co-director of the New York-based International Action Center who is helping to organize the demonstration, insisted that despite the fast-changing events in Iraq, this weekend's world-wide protest "is absolutely going forward -- if anything with greater determination and greater clarity.
"Only now the focus is, 'no' to colonial occupation," said Flounders.
This weekend's protests are organized by ANSWER coalition, a confederation of anti-war and social action groups that was a key organizer of many of the massive demonstrations held in the weeks before the start of the war.
Protests are planned in San Francisco, Washington and several other US cities as well as 40 countries including Britain, Italy, Japan and Korea, said Flounders.
Unbelievably they stumble ahead piling high heaps upon heaps of their own stupidity
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 16:53:15 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"Schroeder warns against more US wars in other regions after Iraq war"
BERLIN, April 10 (Xinhuanet) -- German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder on Thursday warned the United States not to launch military strikes in other regions after the Iraq war.
?@?@"I warn against repetition" of the US-led war on Iraq, said Schroeder in an interview with German TV RTL.
Or else...?
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 16:47:48 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"As far as Peter Arnett goes, how am I to read Peter Arnett as reliable -- when he has that atrocity of a comb-over on the top of his head?!
He's got four hairs left. He's swirling around like some follicular dairy cream. You know, this guy is dangerously close to having to pull hair over from some other guy's head. Hey, Pete, you're not fooling anybody! We know you're bald. Your head is as empty on the outside and it is on the inside."
Dennis Miller on Peter Arnett
(Photo courtesy of the Associated Press)
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 16:43:53 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"Weapons-Grade Plutonium Possibly Found at Iraqi Nuke Complex"
BAGHDAD, Iraq � U.S. Marines may have found weapons-grade plutonium in a massive underground facility discovered beneath Iraq's Al Tuwaitha nuclear complex, an embedded reporter told Fox News Thursday.
Coalition forces are investigating a stash of radioactive material found at the site south of Baghdad, the reporter, Carl Prine of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, told Fox News.
The material was discovered at the complex, which is operated by the Iraqi Atomic Energy Commission and is located south of Baghdad's suburbs.
While officials aren't prepared to call the discovery a "smoking gun," two preliminary tests conducted on the material have indicated that it may be weapons-grade plutonium.
Is that gunsmoke I smell?
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 16:39:11 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"Children haunted by Iraq war"
Stockholm - They may be thousands of kilometres away from the fighting in Iraq, but children in Sweden are haunted by a war which stokes their worst fears about the world they live in, psychologists fielding calls on a war hotline said.
"Is there going to be war in Sweden?," an 11-year-old girl asked the therapist manning the hotline.
HELP! I've fallen, am ROTFFLMFAO and can't get up!
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 16:34:50 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The truth comes out in this unretouched version of the photo which had previously been modified to say "No Bush" and distributed by peacenik activists.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 16:09:22 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Don't try to understand Pete. Just sit back and laugh.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 16:01:05 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Empty Glint.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 16:00:31 (EDT)
My two cents are:
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 15:49:02 (EDT)
My two cents are:
If that doesn't define treason, nothing does.
then nothing does
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 15:46:20 (EDT)
My two cents are:
In Pete's America, anti-Peteism is treason.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 15:45:27 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Not so sure about the treason angle, Pete. First of all, your assumptions would have to be proven true. Second of all, in the USA every man has the freedom to root for any team he chooses. Are you a Muslim?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 15:44:12 (EDT)
My two cents are:
And I can smell your fear.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 15:37:25 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Terrific analysis, Pete the Amazed. I can tell you went to college.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 15:36:59 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Like good soldiers, the Left infiltrated every important life aspect of their enemy. America cannot be breached from the outside, so the Left chose the insidious placing of their spokespeople throughout our media, in our schools, in entertainment and now even in comic books. Whether the Left has useful idiots or the rank and file, the result is the same. Americans in broken record mode, spewing anti-American vile. This is no longer just war overseas, it is not just a matter of homeland security, it is a war for the hearts and minds of Americans.
The good news is, as we all know, the Left�s motives were exposed early. American polls show that nearly 8 out of 10 Americans are supportive of America�s war effort.
That does not necessarily mean that 80% of Americans are unaffected by the subtleties of the Left�s message and cannot be swayed further in that direction. The Left wants us to know that the world by and large hates us. They claim that it is our fault. We are told it is not the American people that are hated, but rather it is our foreign policy. All we need to do is change our foreign policy to the wishes of the �world street� and they will like us.
All we need to do is become less American, and more inter nationalistic in our ways, and we won�t be hated so much. If we could only abandon our principals, turn our backs on traditional friends in favor of the folks who now hate us, all would be better.
All we need to do is not be who we are.
The Left has an agenda. It is clear from their ranting that America remaining a superpower is an obstacle. However, the Left also knows that America warring against terrorism and despotic regimes is not just a detriment to their cause because American victories will enhance Americanism and not internationalism, it is also a threat to the far Left�s existence.
The Left knows that it is just a matter of time before Americans begin to see that the rhetoric coming from America�s enemies abroad is the same rhetoric coming from America�s Left. While the useful idiots may not know what horrors they are fomenting in their service to the Left�s leaders, it really doesn�t matter, the effect is the same.
What the Left does not want anyone to know is that the millions of America-haters abroad were not born that way. They had to be taught. It is only a handful of people who regulate the media or who have power in those foreign lands. Public opinion is shaped abroad, and is not based on fact. Trying to win the hearts and minds of the populations of other countries is an uphill battle when truth is looked upon by the �elite� of those countries with contempt. Our target should be focused on the elite, not the population. Once the �directors� are turned, the population will follow.
While every true American will agree that the freedoms bestowed on all Americans must be upheld, cherished and defended; it must be equally agreed to that certain acts are not an exercise of the freedom of speech or any other guarantee endowed on all Americans. Certain acts, certain behaviors must be called what they are, and in many cases the Left�s claim of acting and speaking in the best interest of American tradition is nothing more than a performance in sedition.
A Call to Arms!
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 15:26:03 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"Asked if they wanted [Hillary] Clinton to run, 54 percent of New York Democrats said no and 43 percent said yes in a poll conducted by the Marist Institute."
doesn't the old τωατ already have a 6-year commitment to fulfill?
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 15:23:17 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Amazing how our so-called liebral Americans are so bent on the US losing or looking bad. If that doesn't define treason, nothing does.
Pete�
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 15:23:05 (EDT)
My two cents are:
That pickup was probably shot up by the Republican Guard as they scrambled to get out of town several days ago.
Glint
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 15:16:17 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"How Saddam's remains could be identified"
Washington - If Iraqi President Saddam Hussein is dead, how will the world know?
As rumours swirled around Saddam, whose whereabouts remained unknown on Thursday, Dr Lawrence Kobilinsky spoke with clinical detachment about clues that might have been left if Saddam died in a massive US bomb attack earlier this week.
'Is his body intact or is it completely fragmented into large and small pieces?'
Four 900kg bombs reduced a building in Baghdad's Mansur district to rubble on Monday after the CIA received a tip that Saddam and his sons, Uday and Qusay, were inside meeting with Iraqi intelligence officials.
Despite the devastation, there might be enough evidence at that site to confirm Saddam's death, said Kobilinsky, a professor of forensic science at John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York City.
"We don't know if he was even there; but assuming he was there, and assuming he is dead, the question is: 'Is his body intact or is it completely fragmented into large and small pieces?'" Kobilinsky said in a telephone interview.
"If it's intact, they might be able, through visual observation of his facial structure, to determine if it's him or not," the scientist said.
Even if the face is not intact, the height and weight of the body or the presence of a distinguishing facial mole would be helpful, and it might be possible for investigators to obtain fingerprint samples from one of Saddam's palaces that could be used to confirm the death.
'I think he'll become a joke after a while, like Elvis or Hoffa'
However, reports of numerous Saddam look-alikes suggest that more technical methods might be needed, Kobilinsky said.
One way to confirm Saddam's death without banked samples of his DNA would be to get tissue samples from his body and those of his sons, if all three are found.
Because fathers pass along all of the genes on their Y chromosomes to their male children, Kobilinsky said, a check of the tissues of all three would be useful.
"If both sons are there, what they can do is examine the tissues and see if the Y chromosome material is identical and that way they actually can get some real hard data," he said.
Getting hard data about the ultimate fate of Saddam is essential, according to retired US Army Colonel Laird Anderson, who now teaches at American University.
"The man (Saddam) has done a brilliant job of keeping his presence a mystery but I still think we have to have something that says our best evidence is that this is Saddam Hussein," Anderson said by telephone.
Without positive identification, Saddam could join Osama bin Laden as an enemy of the United States whose final whereabouts are unclear, Anderson said.
Another possibility is that without certainty, Saddam could become a laughingstock.
"I think he'll become a joke after a while, like Elvis or Hoffa," Anderson said.
Questions linger in some quarters about whether rock 'n roll icon Elvis Presley and labour leader Jimmy Hoffa are actually dead despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, and the same could hold for Saddam, he said.
let's get the pieces and sticky goo on celebritymorgue.com for net-wide visual inspection
glint - Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 15:12:20 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Ann Coulter is not part of the free speech party, she's part of the Stalinist Suppression of Dissent Party--she's too stupid to have noticed.
does she have a boyfriend yet? a girlfriend? a friend?
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 15:10:20 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Bodies litter streets of Baghdad suburb
Thu Apr 10,10:52 AM ET Add Mideast - AFP to My Yahoo!
BAGHDAD (AFP) - Around 20 bodies and burnt-out cars littered the streets of the southwestern Baghdad neighbourhood of Al-Dora, an AFP photographer reported.
AFP Photo
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Bodies, including those of children, were still strewn over the road between Al-Dora and the international airport, which is under the control of US forces.
The putrid, fly-covered corpses were being buried in a mass grave along the side of the road by volunteers whose noses were covered with scarves agaisnt the stench, according to the photographer.
Some of the corpses were in or under the charred vehicles. Dead children lay on the side of the road, covered in sheets.
One family, two of whose members were completely incinerated, died in the back of a pick-up truck.
"If the price of freedom is this, we don't want it," said one Iraqi helping at the scene.
IF THIS IS THE PRICE OF FREEDOM, WE DON'T WAN IT <BUT THE BUSH CARTEL DOESN'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT WHAT YOU WHAT, ONLY WHAT IT WANTS>
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 15:08:40 (EDT)
My two cents are:
You can smell the fear behind the bravado. It's like, let's cheer real loud! That's the ticket!
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 14:52:13 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Same old Republican dance.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 14:46:55 (EDT)
My two cents are:
GO ANNE GO: Shock And Awe Campaign Routs Liberals
April 9, 2003
LIBERALS ARE NO longer a threat to the nation. The new media have defeated them with free speech � the very freedom these fifth columnists hide behind whenever their speech gets them in hot water with the American people. Today, the truth is instantly available on the Internet, talk radio and Fox News Channel. No wonder liberals accuse Matt Drudge of absurd sodomic acts, call Rush Limbaugh a "big fat idiot," and say "really stupid people" watch Fox News Channel � as anti-war actress Janeane Garofalo said between assuring us that Saddam Hussein has no weapons of mass destruction.
After the Dixie Chicks' lead singer, Natalie Maines, informed a concert hall on foreign soil that "just so you know, we're ashamed the president of the United States is from Texas," the New York Times reported that for several days there was not "a ripple about the remark."
Then Matt Drudge posted it on his website. The Drudge Report has been getting 11 million hits a day recently. In response to the instant uproar, including radio boycotts and public CD burnings, Maines was forced to issue a written apology for the remark. Then Maines explained it was a "joke," which is only slightly less enraging than being told to "chill out." At the Country Music Television awards last Monday, the very mention of the Dixie Chicks prompted booing.
Weeks after the Dixie Chicks imploded, Pearl Jam singer Eddie Vedder showed he's still got a way with words by repeatedly smashing a George W. Bush mask against the stage during a concert. Predictable heckling and booing broke out � robust even by Pearl Jam concert standards. Vedder asked in astonishment: "You're booing the story, right? You're not booing me?" Published claims that dozens of fans walked out at this point seem dubious, since that would require Pearl Jam's fan base to still number in the dozens.
Vedder continued with a rambling diatribe against the war, during which he announced � in a worldwide exclusive � that next year Americans will no longer be allowed to speak. When someone yelled at him to shut up, Vedder shouted down the dissenters with a microphone and 50,000 amps, saying, "I don't know if you heard about this thing called freedom of speech, man." This qualified as one of the most profound public statements ever punctuated with the term "man."
Soon, Vedder was backpedaling faster than a Dixie Chick: "Just to clarify ... we support the troops." To prove it, he cited his short haircut: "How could we not be for the military? I mean, look at this [expletive] haircut." Vedder said his remarks had been "misconstrued." The band issued a statement saying Vedder was just talking about "freedom of speech."
Also celebrating "free speech" recently was Columbia University professor Nicholas De Genova. Speaking at a "teach-in" a few weeks ago, he said patriots were white supremacists and that the "only true heroes are those who find ways that help defeat the U.S. military." Most charmingly, De Genova said: "I personally would like to see a million Mogadishus," referring to the dismembered bodies of American servicemen being dragged through the streets of Somalia in 1993. De Genova was given rousing applause from the college audience when he said: "If we really [believe] that this war is criminal ... then we have to believe in the victory of the Iraqi people and the defeat of the U.S. war machine."
The speech by this esteemed member of our nation's higher education system was followed by other Columbia professors, such as Eric Foner, who tepidly took exception only to De Genova's description of patriots as white supremacists. (Has anything good ever come of a "teach-in"? Even the promisingly titled "die-ins" always fail to deliver.)
The university initially responded to complaints about De Genova by issuing the usual traitors' dodge: free speech! But the uproar continued, eventually propelling the president of the university, Lee Bollinger, to say that De Genova's "million Mogadishus" comment "crosses the line."
Most auspiciously, Peter Arnett was fired from NBC for pinch-hitting for Tariq Aziz, Saddam Hussein's minister of propaganda. Consider that Arnett has retailed propaganda for the Iraqi regime about a "milk factory" being bombed by the Americans in 1991 � and that didn't get him fired. He has bragged that he would allow American servicemen to die rather than reveal enemy war plans he had acquired as a journalist � that didn't get him fired. Arnett once falsely reported that the U.S. military used poison gas on American defectors � and then hid behind his producers' skirts when CNN was forced to retract the report and fire the producers. That didn't get him fired.
Like Columbia University, NBC initially tried to stand by Tokyo Pete this time, issuing a statement that called his reporting "outstanding" and saying simply that his interview with Iraqi TV "was done as a professional courtesy." By 7 o'clock the next morning, deluged with thousands of e-mails demanding Arnett's head, NBC fired him.
Freedom of speech isn't working out so well for liberals now that they aren't the only ones with a microphone. It's not so much fun when the rabbit's got the gun.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 14:42:09 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"Deployed Marine helps Dad win the lottery" - Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - On Monday night, a New Windsor man won $50,000 tax-free from the Maryland Lottery - one of the winning numbers came from his son, a Marine fighting in Baghdad.
Lance Cpl. John Smith Jr. helped his father, John Smith Sr., pick out numbers for the lottery during a brief phone conversation from Baghdad. John Smith Jr., 23, who has been stationed in Iraq for four months, called his father at 4:30 the morning his father won.
"They got cut off there because there was bombing at the time. I think he'd rather be home right now," said his father. "The way it's looking right now, it's getting closer to being done in Baghdad."
During the phone conversation, father and son discussed lottery numbers, and John Smith Jr. gave his dad a number to use.
John Smith Sr. said he was in shock after learning he won. The state lottery is running a promotion right now where all the money won is tax-free, according to Joe Brittian, public affairs specialist for the lottery.
Smith played the lotto's Bonus Match 5 game, in which five numbers are picked as well as a bonus number. Contestants matching all five numbers get $50,000.
"I was just shocked for a little while," Smith said. "I didn't know they were paying all the taxes, either."
Smith said he picked his five numbers a variety of ways, but all the numbers came either directly or indirectly from his family.
He said he plans on using the money to fund his daughter's college education, to buy a used van, and to help pay his medical bills.
Smith has undergone more than 26 leg operations and six knee replacements after a 1986 work-related accident in which a crane accidentally pushed him off a 13-story building, he said.
But no amount of money could guarantee his son's safe return, John Smith Sr. said. He said his son called him on March 23 to tell him the first shell had hit his division.
"He said it shook his whole camp," Smith Sr. said. "It's scary and I don't like it. Them being over there and us over here is really different."
While her brother John Smith Jr. is fighting a war, Helen Smith, 13, has become a school celebrity. She is one of four Smith children.
"At first, I didn't believe him," she said. "My friends thought it was pretty cool."
Tax Free in Carroll County
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 14:41:46 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Speaking of which, here's a great site to balst away the dancing hamsters with song.
Pete�
http://www.newgrounds.com/assassin/hamster/ - Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 14:40:29 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Man, that's like finding a burning sack of shit on somebody else's doorstep!
scary
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 14:35:39 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Unusable radioactive material?
interesting
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 14:34:29 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"Underground Nuclear Facility Found in Iraq"
Thursday, April 10, 2003
BAGHDAD, Iraq � U.S. officials are investigating a massive underground nuclear facility that was discovered below the Al Tuwaitha complex of the Iraqi Atomic Energy Commission in a suburban town south of Baghdad.
While they aren't prepared to say the discovery is the smoking gun proving Iraq's possession of weapons of mass destruction, Fox News confirmed that officials are very interested in the labyrinth of labs and warehouses unearthed by U.S. forces.
The discovery was unexpected and forces in the area are testing a variety of things to best determine the significance of the find.
Marine nuclear and intelligence experts have far found 14 buildings that have high levels of radiation, an embedded reporter from the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review reported Thursday, noting that some of the tests have found nuclear residue too deadly for human occupation.
The Marine radiation detectors go "off the charts" a few hundred meters outside the nuclear compound, where locals say "missile water" is stored in enormous caverns, the correspondent, Carl Prine, reported. Prine is embedded with the U.S. 1st Marine Division.
"It's amazing," Chief Warrant Officer Darrin Flick, the battalion's nuclear, biological and chemical warfare specialist told the paper. "I went to the off-site storage buildings, and the rad detector went off the charts. Then I opened the steel door, and there were all these drums, many, many drums, of highly radioactive material."
This underground discovery could still test to be perfectly legitimate and offer no proof of chemical, biological or nuclear weapons. The CIA encouraged international inspectors in the fall of 2002 to probe Al Tuwaitha for weapons of mass destruction, and the inspectors came away empty handed.
"They went through that site multiple times, but did they go underground? I never heard anything about that," physicist David Albright, a former IAEA Action Team inspector in Iraq from 1992 to 1997, told the Tribune-Review.
"The Marines should be particularly careful because of those high readings," he told the paper. "Three hours at levels like that and people begin to vomit. That leads me to wonder, if the readings are accurate, whether radioactive material was deliberately left there to expose people to dangerous levels.
"You couldn't do scientific work in levels like that. You would die."
Capt. John Seegar, a combat engineer commander from Houston, is currently running the operation in Al Tuwaitha. "I've never seen anything like it, ever," he told the Tribune-Review. "How did the world miss all of this? Why couldn't they see what was happening here?"
interesting
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 14:32:00 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Very sobering news, Glint. Thank you for sharing. And thank Poe and Ji. Are they your hamsters?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 14:30:30 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Yes, thank you. Nothing like a helpful rube.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 14:28:38 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Thanks glint.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 14:26:58 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Who the fuck are Poe and Ji? Pussed over twats?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 14:24:56 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Very impressive, In Country Bumpkin! Who gives a fuck?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 14:24:16 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I know several there, so do Poe and Ji. Also have a neighbor less than a mile down the road whose won went in country and is currently in Baghdad. In fact yesterday the father, my neighbor, was on the front page of the paper because he won $50,000 in the lottery. He said that in a telephone conversation with his in country son they selected the winning numbers together. <> Hope that helps.
Glint
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 14:22:53 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Death of innocents has been marginalized. Totally irrelevant.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 14:22:40 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Terrorism has been marginalized. It is irrelevant.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 14:21:13 (EDT)
My two cents are:
WMD have been marginalized. Their discovery is irrelevant.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 14:20:36 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Very important question. I guess.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 14:19:07 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I'd just like to thank that hero for saving us from an attack by Saddam and making the world safe for democracy.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 14:15:53 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I know someone who's stationed in Iraq. What's it to you?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 14:09:12 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Nice of In Country Bumpkin to use the no-read font.
good rube
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 14:08:31 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Does anyone here even know someone stationed in Iraq?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 14:07:40 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Great revisionism!
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 14:07:17 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"Hawks Set Sights on Iran, Syria as Baghdad Falls"
[as a last resort] let's roll
Thu Apr 10, 9:26 AM ET
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Emboldened by the U.S. military's
apparent quick rout of Iraqi forces, conservative hawks in
America are setting their sights on regime change in Iran
and Syria.
"It's time to bring down the other terror masters," Michael
Ledeen of the American Enterprise Institute wrote on
Monday -- two days before U.S. troops swept into the heart
of Baghdad -- in a piece entitled "Syria and Iran Must Get
Their Turn."
"Iran, at least, offers Americans the possibility of a
memorable victory, because the Iranian people openly loath
the regime, and will enthusiastically combat it, if only
the United States supports them in their just struggle," he
added. "Syria cannot stand alone against a successful
democratic revolution that topples tyrannical regimes in
Kabul, Tehran and Iraq."
While some conservatives believe the example of Iraq could
serve to undermine the governments of some of its
nondemocratic neighbors, others simply hope it will
dissuade them from seeking biological, chemical and nuclear
weapons.
John Bolton, under secretary of state for arms control and
international security, told reporters in Rome he hoped
Iran, Syria and North Korea -- which the United States
believes is pursuing a nuclear weapons program -- will get
the message.
"We are hopeful that a number of regimes will draw the
appropriate lesson from Iraq that the pursuit of weapons of
mass destruction is not in their national interest," he
said, citing the three when asked what the post-war period
may hold.
Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, who on March 28 warned
Syria and Iran not to meddle in the Iraq war, said on
Wednesday the United States had evidence Damascus might be
helping Saddam's relatives and supporters flee the country.
While he did not cite Syria or Iran by name, Vice President
Dick Cheney said in a speech to newspaper editors that the
United States must "do whatever it takes" to defeat
terrorism and must confront nations that sponsor it.
The United States regards Iran and Syria as state sponsors
of terrorism. U.S. officials believe both are pursuing
weapons of mass destruction, accusing Iran of seeking
nuclear weapons. Iran says its nuclear program aims to
produce electricity.
"In removing the terror regime from Iraq, we send a very
clear message to all groups that operate by means of terror
and violence against the innocent," Cheney said. "The
United States and our coalition partners are showing ... we
have the capacity and the will to wage war on terror and to
win decisively."
"We have a further responsibility to help keep the peace of
the world and to prevent the terrorists and their sponsors
from plunging the world into horrific violence," he added.
Frank Gaffney, a senior Pentagon official under former
President Ronald Reagan, said he believed that regime
change should be the U.S. policy toward Iran and Syria and
said the United States could not rule out the use of force.
"If the threat metastasizes in such a way that we consider
it to leave us no choice but to use military force then
that would have to be an option," he said.
Gaffney, head of the Center for Security Policy think tank,
said many Iranians would like to see their government
change and the United States should help them through
information flows, economic assistance and possibly covert
activity.
"The use of military force is probably genuinely the last
resort here, but I certainly think it's like that we're
going to see efforts made to bring about change in Iran as
well as Syria ... and perhaps elsewhere in the region as a
matter of the natural progression of this war on terror,"
he added.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 14:07:02 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden have been marginalized. Their capture or death is irrelevant.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 14:06:34 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Never try to figure out a rube. Just sit back and enjoy it.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 14:03:59 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Bush has been higher and he will be lower, much lower. Remember Poppy!
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 14:03:18 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Give your movie stars a chance, L.G. Save your sardonic gloating till after Iraq becomes a democracy. Like Haiti. Like Bosnia. Like Afghanistan. Like, well, like The World after WWI. Wait at least until the Shiites kill all the Sunnis and the Kurds. Wait until the looting and dismembering ends. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 14:02:28 (EDT)
My two cents are:
No way Bush's approval ratings could be that high. It's been our experience that to get above 66% requires a fatch whore to give blow jobs on the OO carpet.
Democrat Zombies
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 13:56:07 (EDT)
My two cents are:
When will the antiwar opportunists among Hollywood's elite go on the talk show circuit and say how wrong they were about our country and what airheads they have been?
L.G.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 13:53:31 (EDT)
My two cents are:
An overwhelming majority of Americans predict more tough fighting ahead in Iraq, despite the fall of Baghdad, and also worry that winning the peace may prove to be more difficult than winning the war, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.
The survey also found that President Bush's overall job approval rating continues to rise in step with the upbeat news from the front. Three in four Americans now approve of the job that Bush is doing as president, his best rating since last June. Eight in 10 support Bush's decision to go to war, and nearly two thirds say the war is going "very well" for the United States-up 19 percentage points in less than a week.
77%
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 13:52:17 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Read in today's Daily Mirror that Saddam could be hiding underground. What would be the matter with finding which maze he is quivering in, sealing it up and leaving him to wander in eternal gloom, eating tinned food and watching archival footage of his favorite role model Joseph Stalin in a continuous loop, forever? It would save the cost of a bunker buster let him and the Butcher Boys beg for fresh air while they rot.
L.G.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 13:51:10 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Yeah, the dems are milque toast. All they have now are lies about abortion and socialism. (01)
Pete�
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 13:49:42 (EDT)
My two cents are:
MSNBC and CNN say Marines were wounded today by a suicide bombing at a military checkpoint in downtown Baghdad.
good luck to his family if they try collecting the $25,000 reward from Saddam
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 13:47:02 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Does anyone on this page have relatives in the military stationed in Iraq?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 13:46:29 (EDT)
My two cents are:
�The threat from the White House is to go in anyway. Our only ally would probably be Great Britain. That is not good enough. I see the possibility if we do that of really setting forth World War III.�
what makes In Country Bumpkin doubt this?
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 13:45:30 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"why do Iraqis fear what might follow Saddam?"
why should they fear the southern baptists?
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 13:29:30 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Before the war began, many relief groups warned that as U.S. and British forces swept through Iraq's cities and towns, they would leave behind a security vacuum as the local authorities, associated with the Baath Party, were killed or fled.
"There are no police -- they've all run," said Frederick Barton, head of the postwar reconstruction project at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington. "You can't salvage the local existing policing capacity, and security is a precondition for going forward" with humanitarian relief efforts.
Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld insisted Wednesday that shortages of food,
water and medicine in Iraq are the result of Saddam Hussein's policies, not the chaos generated by the war.
why do Iraqis fear what might follow Saddam?
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 13:19:42 (EDT)
My two cents are:
US female soldiers fall to 'friendly fire'
The prohibition of sexual intercourse among US squaddies has not prevented up to 20 of the fairer sex being sent back home after they fell pregnant while on duty in the war against Iraq, reports the German website Stern.
The problem is particularly acute at sea where the US navy conducts regular morality patrols to monitor the chastity of its crews.
On the USS Abraham Lincoln they inspect dark nooks and crannies, in order to prevent what has been called the "elimination" of female soldiers by this form of "friendly fire".
However, in the eyes of a religious advisor on the aircraft carrier they are rowing against the tide since almost all the troops are singles whose hormones defy all threat of sanction. --- Al Jazeera
Al Jazeera's gets in a witty belly laugh every now and then
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 13:10:26 (EDT)
My two cents are:
�The threat from the White House is to go in anyway. Our only ally would probably be Great Britain. That is not good enough. I see the possibility if we do that of really setting forth World War III.�
notice how this clueless jackass has finally decided to S
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 12:56:46 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Why does In Country hate Americans?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 12:31:12 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Poor, clueless asshole. Poor In Country Bumpkin.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 12:26:06 (EDT)
My two cents are:
No, the drawing board will come to the Democrats in the form of failed Republicanism, as always.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 12:25:00 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"Doomsday didn't happen: Pundits were wrong about resistance and uprisings, casualties and terrorist threats."
"The [liberal america-hating] critics have proven to be wrong"
'The critics have proven to be wrong'
Thursday, April 10, 2003
The allied invasion of Iraq, according to many pundits and
observers, would prove to be "another Vietnam."
The Pentagon, arrogant and overconfident, had grossly
underestimated Iraqi resistance, marching its troops down
a "road of ruin" toward an inevitable "bloodbath."
Even before the first bombs had dropped on
Baghdad, "quagmire" had become the buzzword of Gulf War II.
But today, as coalition forces and Iraqi civilians continue
to destroy the last remnants of Saddam Hussein's regime --
dragging the dictator's statue through the streets of
Baghdad -- it is clear that many of the war's doomsday
prognosticators were dead wrong.
Years from now, when scholars and historians look back on
the Iraqi invasion, one unavoidable issue will be the sheer
volume of inaccurate forecasts that preceded the actual
fighting. If truth is often the first casualty of war, then
punditry is surely this conflict's second fatality.
"A lot of people discussing this didn't really know what
they were talking about," said John Thompson, director of
the Mackenzie Institute, and himself an oft-quoted expert
on the Iraqi war. "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing."
With the war all but over, the quagmire is nowhere to be
found.
Allied ground forces did not get bogged down on the way to
Baghdad, despite charges that Donald Rumsfeld, the U.S.
Defence Secretary, had dispatched too few troops to the
desert.
Saddam's army did not lure allied soldiers deep into the
city, trapping them in a deadly ambush of guerrilla warfare
and chemical weaponry that many said would transform side
streets into coalition graveyards.
The regime's elite Republican Guard, lauded as much for its
fearlessness as its cunning tactics, was mediocre at best.
From the first allied tank incursion on Monday, it took
just three days for the capital to fall.
One analyst predicted early on that "the war will be akin
to throwing a grenade into a huge hornet's nest." In the
end, however, the hornets packed little sting.
Yesterday, as the media broadcast images of U.S. troops smoking and joking in Saddam's marble presidential palaces,
some headlines were still predicting a final showdown in
Baghdad. "Hussein's regime fights on," one declared.
But while fighting has been tough in certain pockets of the
city, Iraqi resistance has been mostly sporadic and
disorganized -- far from the "acid flashbacks to Vietnam"
that New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd recently
predicted.
"Some of the things we were supposed to see were products
of our own imagination as opposed to being products of
anything that the Pentagon told us," said Wesley Wark, a
professor of international affairs at the University of
Toronto. "In terms of the pace of the advance on Baghdad,
the critics have proven to be wrong."
But they were wrong about much more than just the allied
advance to Baghdad.
Observers warned the U.S.-led invasion would ignite an Arab
uprising in the region, prompting thousands of potential
suicide bombers to rush to Saddam's defence and motivating
millions of others to revolt against their own governments.
As of last night, the Middle East was not in flames.
Saddam failed to launch his missiles at Israel; nor did he
manage to set more than a handful of Iraq's oil fields
ablaze.
Casualties, both among allied forces and Iraqi civilians,
were also relatively low.
Many pundits had predicted Vietnam-style body counts, but
that never materialized. During the three-week invasion,
fewer than 100 U.S. troops and 30 British soldiers have
been confirmed dead.
In Washington, more than 58,000 names adorn the Vietnam War
Memorial.
Independent estimates put the number of Iraq's civilian
casualties at approximately 1,000, with thousands of others
wounded. Although most would agree that one civilian death
is too many, the number is well off the four million
casualties that a group of medical experts, taking into
account the environmental catastrophe associated with a
possible nuclear attack, predicted last November.
The list of unfulfilled prophecies goes on and on.
Observers said the war would trigger a flood of Iraqi
refugees, but camps in Jordan, Syria and Turkey remain
almost empty.
To the chagrin of the White House, the invasion has failed
to unearth Saddam's suspected stock of weapons of mass
destruction. Troops recently discovered approximately 20
medium-range missiles believed to contain sarin and mustard
gas, but the substances are still being tested.
But of all the expert predictions that did not materialize,
perhaps none was more repeated than the certainty of a
terrorist attack on American soil.
"That's one of the mysteries so far," Dr. Wark said. "Where
is al-Qaeda?"
There is, of course, a bigger question: How can so many so-
called experts get it so wrong?
No Vietnam. No Arab uprising. Definitely no quagmire.
Retired Major-General Lewis MacKenzie, himself a hired
pundit, said the flurry of inconsistent pronouncements is
the inevitable by-product of new-age war reporting.
"What other war have you had 24-hour coverage with a whole
bunch of retired State Department and general officers that
are being called upon to fill up the airwaves?" he said
yesterday. "I wouldn't want to name names, but I must admit
that because CNN and other networks had to use so many of
them, there were a number of them that were much more TV
personalities that had been doing this for conflict after
conflict than they were military analysts."
Earlier this week, Brian Burridge, the commander of British
forces in the Gulf region, lashed out at the media for
turning the war into "reality TV" -- high on guesswork and
low on analysis.
For example, if an embedded journalist reported that a
battalion of troops was eating only one meal a day,
analysts back at the studio would tell viewers that the
supply shortage was a clear indication the U.S. war plan
was in ruins.
In many ways, Maj.-Gen. MacKenzie said, networks rely on
dramatic predictions of bloody street battles and
inevitable carnage to help advertise the ongoing coverage,
keeping people glued to their televisions.
Such incessant punditry has evolved into a staple of all-
day news stations. And consequently, so has incorrect
punditry.
During the campaign to oust the Taliban regime, for
instance, observers warned of a "brutal Afghan winter" that
would surely hinder a quick American victory. By the time
January rolled around, balmy was about as "brutal" as
the "Afghan winter" got. (Similarly, the fierce heat of
Iraq's summer proved to be no obstacle to invading troops,
though many grumbled about the need to constantly wear
their anti-chemical suits.)
Last October, while police in the U.S. capital hunted for a
serial sniper, many experts were certain the person who
killed 10 random victims was a lonely white male in search
of revenge.
Authorities later arrested two black men in search of money.
In the end, the countless talking heads of the Iraqi war
may have simply underestimated the U.S. military -- while
at the same time overestimating the Iraqi forces.
U.S. commanders undoubtedly worried about the same doomsday
scenarios as the pundits -- burning oil fields, guerrilla
warfare and urban ambushes, to name a few -- but the plan
they drew up appeared able to anticipate most of the
expected Iraqi strategies, thwarting them before they even
began.
"Obviously the Americans are the class act of conventional
warfare," said Jim Keeley, a political science professor at
the University of Calgary's Centre for Military and
Strategic Studies.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 12:22:24 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"Palestinian Authority Mourns The Fall of Baghdad"
- After months of support of Iraq and promises that �Iraq would be a graveyard for US soldiers� the PA went into mourning over the quick fall of their hero Saddam Hussein.
The PA daily Al Ayyam published today�s headline of the fall of Baghdad with a black frame of mourning and the official PA daily Al Hayat Al Jadida published the political cartoon the entire "Arab Nation" is in mourning "Baghdad".
The editorial page in the official daily Al Hayat Al Jadida went even further, advising the Iraqi people to act against the American �occupation� by taking �the Palestinian experience as an example�.
"You'll know [shock and awe] when you see it." - Rummy
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 12:13:19 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"Crowd Kills Two Islamic Clerics in Iraqi Mosque"
A crowd rushed two Islamic clerics and hacked them to death in this holy city Thursday, witnesses said. An unknown number of people were injured.
thank allah islam is such a peaceful religion
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 12:07:06 (EDT)
My two cents are:
It's back to the drawing board for the 2004 Democrat hopefuls.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 11:57:26 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Oh, yeah, take all the credit for gas at only $1.55 to Snippy. I suppose Cheney and Kenny Boy are potted plants, eh?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 11:54:06 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The yahoos are great spellers. Not so strong in the logic department, but they got a good shot in the spelling bee.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 11:52:52 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"...let's take our minds of the sh[*]thole that Dim Son has dug for the US of A!"
At least the yahoos all know how to spell "off"
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 11:46:30 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"It's the same glee every yahoo troglodyte expressed after poppy conquered Arabia. Victory was there's..."
At least Trogs know how to spell "theirs"
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 11:36:32 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Gas is about $1.55 in these here parts. Still going down thanks to the success of Bush's energy plan. - Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 11:34:39 (EDT)
My two cents are:
They have lawn tractors in Baghdad?
Do they have lawns in Baghdad?
replying to clueless, down below - Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 11:31:16 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I heard some bonehead say we've got to leave decision-making "about the oil" to Iraqis.
Keep the bellylaffs coming, liberals.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 11:09:00 (EDT)
My two cents are:
???
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- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 11:08:04 (EDT)
My two cents are:
While we're busy killing our sons and our daughters, and other people's sons and daughter's, let's take our minds of the shithole that Dim Son has dug for the US of A!
yes, yes! war is peace! poverty is plenty!
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 08:21:28 (EDT)
My two cents are:
http://www.mnftiu.cc/mnftiu.cc/war23.html
Up Yours
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 08:17:38 (EDT)
My two cents are:
OK, we've now killed more Iraqis than the WTC bombers killed people in the WTC attack. Are we happy?
sip, sip, more blood! more vengeance on those not responsible for 9/11! let anthraxman go free! let Osama recruit! let's sip some more blood with our oil, hey?
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 08:14:44 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Well, more like in the USA, anyone with the right backing can assume power. Puppets like Reagan and Bush Lite. Dickheads like Dick Nixon. GOP--The Strangelovian party, and proud of it!
sieg heil, the fascist boom continues. who'll they invade next? how far into the shit can they drive the economy? More blood! More blood!
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 08:05:02 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Have to check fornigate and see what a horse's ass Glint is making of himself. Ahh, there it is. Now I can go to sleep.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 03:02:13 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Sickening how Bush kept looking at Blair with that half-assed smile as if expecting a doggy lick from the lap dog.
b & b admiration society
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 02:13:37 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Any student of parliamentary debate, and anyone who watched Tony Blair answer his domestic critics in his recent sessions in that chamber, would not have been surprised by the Odd Couple press conference George W. Bush and Blair held at Camp David. In contrast to Blair's urbanity, Bush's stultiloquence was enough to inspire a Sputnik-like initiative in U.S. schools to teach children how to answer questions truthfully, tactfully, and in something resembling English sentences. Pounding his hand, Bush repeated "however long it takes" three times in curt responses to a question about the time required to win the war. Blair instead made references to Kosovo and Afghanistan, gave a reminder of what had already been achieved in less than one week, and suggested as a reason for our timing a desire to achieve a number of aims�such as regime change, disarmament, and freeing Iraqis�in addition to military victory. In response to a concern about the absence of French, German, and Turkish support, Bush proclaimed his pleasure with "the size of our coalition" and then with a guffaw offered up the "list." Blair instead acknowledged both that "there are countries that disagree with what we are doing" and that a reluctance to commit to combat is understandable because war is "a brutal and a bloody business." It was a moment of American embarrassment, and not only about ineloquence. In the United States, perhaps anyone can grow up to become president. Becoming a leader, though, is more elusive. Leadership requires not only conviction but also honesty, empathy, patience, mercy, and not just the ability but also the desire to express them.
Antidote to that horseshit from the Lt. Col. flyboy
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 01:48:16 (EDT)
My two cents are:
It's the same glee every yahoo troglodyte expressed after poppy conquered Arabia. Victory was there's because Poppy's number du jour said so. Poppy was down to the mid-30s by the time his ass got tossed. It was the economy, stupid. Always is.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 00:26:00 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I'm encouraged by Pete's and Glint's glee and certainty that this signals the death of the Democratic Party and liberalism. It's the same glee they expressed with each new revelation about Clinton's dick. Victory was always theirs. Until it wasn't. To this day they still believe they brought the Big Dog down.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 00:19:47 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Now tell us how you also believe in the tooth fairy.
way to go rumdum
- Thursday, April 10, 2003 at 00:07:43 (EDT)
My two cents are:
For months, U.S. officials have gone to great lengths to assure the public, both in America and abroad, that the Iraq invasion is not motivated by oil interests�a sentiment echoed by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld during a press conference Monday.
"This war is not about oil," Rumsfeld said. "Our decision to intercede against this dictator and not against the dozens of other ruthless dictators in the world is not about oil. France and Russia's opposition to this war is not about the purely coincidental fact that both countries have lucrative, pre-existing oil contracts with Iraq. Furthermore, the interest of many U.S. corporations in the war has nothing to do with oil, either.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 23:57:24 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Let them run their dogpatch country. As long as Halliburton runs the oil fields, I'm happy.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 23:51:54 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Snippy said the Iraqi people are capable of running their own country.
sure, long as rumdum gets to choose the runners
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 23:45:40 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Some of them like us right now, Clyde, and some of them don't. None of them like one another. It's going to get ugly.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 23:32:26 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Well, Clyde, the good guys have rolled into the Sheeburger side of Bagtown, and folks is rubbing their crotch on pictures of Saddam. They're hoping for the Americans to go and take more of the guns away from the other side, so they can go over and cut some penises off, settle some scores. The Christians are scared shitless that the Shees are gonna come and cut their throats and steal their lawn tractors. With the Christians it's not about scores, it's just about having lawn tractors, and lawns. They are the Bagtown equivalent of Republicans, and they rightfully fear penile amputation. The yellowbellied Red Cross and Drs. Without Borders (a bunch of frogs) pulled out because they keep getting caught in crossfires, but we got a retired general who has some plan to give water and MRE's to the locals. The hospitals down south ran out of water to hose off the stumps, but that's probably because the limeys are fucking everything up. A lot of people who aren't there are assuming that something has been accomplished here, and it's clear that something has, just not what it is.
Smitts
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 23:30:42 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Is the war over yet? Did we win? I don't get FOX.
Clyde Harrington
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 23:20:30 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I'm a patriot, hear me roar. Not actually fight mind you, just roar.
lion king
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 23:19:25 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The Lions Club? Sounds about right for In Country Bumpkin.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 23:10:24 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Sweet dreams. May you dream of bloody stumps, bloody children, the lady in red (blood).
the sandman
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 22:56:15 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"Some are afraid of retaliation at work or at school or in their neighborhoods.
my advice is get used to it
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 22:45:16 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Day on fornigate isn't complete unless... Someone mentions the blue dress or the glipslop DNA, and somebody talks about anyone's stump. Thank you, I can get to sleep now. (01)
Glint
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 22:41:30 (EDT)
My two cents are:
It appears that the Bush administration will have succeeded in colonizing Iraq sometime in the next few days. This is a blunder of such magnitude -- and we will pay for it for years to come. It was not worth the life of one single American kid in uniform, let alone the thousands of Iraqis who have died, and my condolences and prayers go out to all of them.
So, where are all those weapons of mass destruction that were the pretense for this war? Ha! There is so much to say about all this, but I will save it for later.
What I am most concerned about right now is that all of you -- the majority of Americans who did not support this war in the first place -- not go silent or be intimidated by what will be touted as some great military victory. Now, more than ever, the voices of peace and truth must be heard. I have received a lot of mail from people who are feeling a profound sense of despair and believe that their voices have been drowned out by the drums and bombs of false patriotism. Some are afraid of retaliation at work or at school or in their neighborhoods because they have been vocal proponents of peace. They have been told over and over that it is not "appropriate" to protest once the country is at war, and that your only duty now is to "support the troops." Which is just another Stalinist way of saying, shut the fuck up and let us turn our ploughshares into missiles.
Dim Son invaded Iraq and all I got is this lousy deficit and more blood on our hands
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 22:37:52 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Small town night in Iraq. No dinner at the volunteer fire hall, just rubble and dust. Used to sit at long tables among the platesful of delicacies while the womenfolk served the platters. No more talk about the upcoming falafel feed and no food pavilion at the local carnival. Not really any drinkable water. If there were funds, we'd have a fund raiser for a transplant for some of the dismembered kids. More of the dismembered are in the hospital with broken hips, broken arms, broken everything. I even still have my bloodstained jacket on--some of it my blood, some of it the innocents I tried to save. A guy came over the table and held an arm stump out and asked if I was a veteran of the Iran Iraq War, or the Gulf War, or this one. When I said no he gave me one of the last books, a translated history of the thirty years' war, and some pictures of what the crusaders call collateral damage, but really is someone's wife, child, father, mother. Pictures of fresh corpses, Christian soldiers killed every one. Lovers of America who stand behind the president and blab about "supporting our troops" but really have blood on their hands, just blood on their hands. Knowing that God sees all that they do, and sees the real th!ngs--just as they are--their pathet!c efforts to hide their sins from His sight. (01)
Gliton
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 22:29:10 (EDT)
My two cents are:
http://www.regulareverydaypeople.com/
slide show for the pancake party?
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 22:25:57 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I was watching coverage of the Iraqi celebrations. There was a guy with an Elvis-like airbrush poster of Sadaam in sunglasses and a beret. He was hitting it with his shoe and another guy came up and punched it. Then another one leaned over and spit on it. Then this other fellow in a robe with a towel wrapped around his head stupped up, lifted his robe, and rubbed his crotch on Saddam's face. Fox News has the best coverage by far. <> Speaking of berets, did you see the video released a couple of days ago, the one with Saddam and all his generals, each wearing a beret except his son Queasy who was wearing Armoni? They looked like a room full of little old Monicas. If only their uniforms were blue insteado of green.
Glint
Have to keep this board somewhat on topic. - Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 22:25:39 (EDT)
My two cents are:
http://www.buzzflash.com/editorial/03/04/09.html
send a copy to Dim Son and to his Mom
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 22:19:09 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Small town night in America. Dinner at the volunteer fire hall. Sitting at long tables among the fire engines while the women folk served the sausage platters. Talk about the upcoming pancake feed and food pavilion at the local carnival. Fund raiser for a liver transplant. A member is in the hospital with a broken hip. I even still have my flag ribbon on. A guy came over the table and held one out with a star pin attached and asked if I was a veteran. When I said no he gave me one with a cross. Christian soldiers every one. Lovers of America who stand behind the president and support our troops. (01)
Glint
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 22:17:45 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Al Queda struck again today. Another bomb threat closed the building. I think I have it figured out. One of the busineses in the building has American in its name. Whenever America shines or mourns we get an incoming one. Last one was on the 9/11 anniversary. <l;> Liberals really dug themselves into a hole over this war. That Gov. of VT basically lost his entire campaign platform. Tough sh1t, @ssh0l3.
Glint
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 22:06:32 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Shouldda just shot em.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 21:41:41 (EDT)
My two cents are:
BY WIL SHANE Northwest Arkansas
Monday, April 7, 2003
A Fayetteville man was arrested for criminal trespass Saturday at the Northwest Arkansas Mall when he and other members of a University of Arkansas student group attempted to enter the facility wearing T-shirts emblazoned with antiwar slogans.
Daniel Vaught, 22, a member of the university�s Progressive Student Association, said he tried to enter the mall�s north entrance after he and his fellow PSA members had been demonstrating around Fayetteville. "Some of us had been demonstrating down on College and Dickson," Vaught said. "We just went to the mall for some lunch, but security wouldn�t let us in."
The group members � shirts bore the slogans "Support the troops, not war or Bu $ h." "They met us at the curb and said we weren�t welcome," he said. "They told us our shirts were the reason."
Baghdad looting puts some backbone in America's mall cops.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 21:36:08 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Yep, they's hair on the walls in old Bagtown tonight. Wahoo!
Smitts
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 21:33:14 (EDT)
My two cents are:
No way the tax cut proposals could hurt growth! We just kicked the shit out of some ragheads!
Hurt growth my ass. We bad.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 21:32:22 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"Time actually didn?t report the quote exactly that way. Apparently not to offend readers who admire Bush?s moral clarity, Time printed the quote as 'F--- Saddam. We?re taking him out.'"
more satire? make people think he really said "Fart Saddam?"
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 21:32:04 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Patriotic songs, eh? Yup, there's nothing makes a man feel so good as beating up someone littler than he is. Especially when the little fucker was the kind who wised off. Bring it on, world!
patriot
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 21:30:24 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"The IMF also said that given the timing of the administration's tax cut proposals, the measures could hurt growth."
Satire? International Muther Fuckers?
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 21:28:21 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Breightlys were dinner guests at one of the local Lions clubs this evening. No. 6 was there to receive a monetary award for an essay contest. With Saddam toppled the business meeting gave way to a rousing chorus of patriotic songs. One of the Lions sittin next to me said he was on the committee which picked the winners. "All the winners were girls," he said. "You mean that no boys entered the contest?" I asked. "Sure they did," he replied, "but we just picked girls." Bunch or dirty old men after my heart. When I left they stuffed a membership application in my coat. <> I'm going to stop referring to her as #6. Her name is Ji.
Glint
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 21:22:25 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"Nice try---a crook, a Zionist, an old spy to run Iraq."
molly ivins
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 21:06:23 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Unfortunately, I'm sworn to secrecy about a Bush family Saddam hang-up I learned about from an author whose been to Kennenbunkport and is a friend of Poppy. If only I could tell you how sick it really is.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 20:48:55 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Bush's Alderaan
By Robert Parry
April 8, 2003
In the latest sign of a troubled American democracy, a large majority of U.S. citizens now say they wouldn�t mind if no weapons of mass destruction are found in Iraq, though it was George W. Bush�s chief rationale for war. Americans also don�t seem to mind that Bush appears to have deceived them for months when he claimed he hadn�t made up his mind about invading Iraq.
As he marched the nation to war, Bush presented himself as a Christian man of peace who saw war only as a last resort. But in a remarkable though little noted disclosure, Time magazine reported that in March 2002 � a full year before the invasion � Bush outlined his real thinking to three U.S. senators, �Fuck Saddam,� Bush said. �We�re taking him out.�
Time actually didn�t report the quote exactly that way. Apparently not to offend readers who admire Bush�s moral clarity, Time printed the quote as �F--- Saddam. We�re taking him out.�
Bush offered his pithy judgment after sticking his head in the door of a White House meeting between National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice and three senators who had been discussing strategies for dealing with Iraq through the United Nations. The senators laughed uncomfortably at Bush�s remark, Time reported. [Time story posted March 23, 2003]
It now is clear that Bush never intended to avoid a war in Iraq, a conflict which has so far claimed the lives of at least 85 American soldiers and possibly thousands of Iraqis.
Sorry, we checked our "pro-life" crap at the door.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 20:37:56 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 20:37:14 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I see history repeating itself. Bush history. Riding high in April, shot down in May.
Chairman of the Board
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 20:36:10 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Alas, America still remains under the thumb of a cruel dictator. . .
ah, peace and prosperity--those were the golden years!
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 20:33:26 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"The U.S. economy still faces considerable downside risk, even with the Iraq war apparently about to conclude successfully, the chief economist of the International Monetary Fund cautioned on Wednesday. The IMF also said that given the timing of the administration's tax cut proposals, the measures could hurt growth, not boost it."
Read the article for reasoning and possible ramifications. Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan and finance industry analysts have questioned recent US fiscal policy; it's unsettling to hear the IMF voice similar concerns.
well, duh--what did you expect from Bush's ruined economy?
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 20:30:59 (EDT)
My two cents are:
These troglodytes sure like to rub it in about Gore winning the election, yet Bush being appointed president. Good thing John's not here to pop a nut about it, and the rest of us are the strong, silent type who won't be goaded into fury.
16
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 19:22:59 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Too bad Arabs don't get to vote in 2004. Half the Arabs in Messopotamia would vote for Snippy. The other half will be in Miami, learning how to fly jumbo jets.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 19:19:13 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Hey, when I saw the picture of the raghead kissing the photo of Snippy, I realized that this thing was in the bag. I'm throwing my support to Bush!
patriot
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 19:18:01 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Hey, the cakewalk has yet to begin. Glint's betting on the Bush economy, Pete has thrown away his thorazine, and at least two factions in Iraq love each and every one of us! It's the dawn of a new day, the end of history, the end of terrorism! We have achieved peace in our time! Or more wars, depending on what the rest of the world wants! Bring it on!
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 19:16:51 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Not if he follows in daddy's footsteps.
easier to destroy a regime than to build one
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 19:08:46 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Nah, Bush'll kick the sh*t out of the Democrat's asses in 2004. Best war victory yet.
�
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 18:59:47 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Al Quaida?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 18:42:56 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Glit's right. Whose ass should we kick next?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 18:42:25 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Nope, you doinks are wholly clueles of the "real" codes. (01)
Pete�
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 18:34:53 (EDT)
My two cents are:
This is the real code! (01)
Idiot!
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 18:33:29 (EDT)
My two cents are:
CAMP BUSHMASTER, Iraq - In this dry desert world near Najaf, where the Army 5th Corps combat support system sprawls across miles of scabrous dust, there's an oasis of sorts: a 500-gallon pool of pristine, cool water.
It belongs to Army chaplain Josh Llano of Houston, who sees the water shortage -- which has kept thousands of filthy soldiers from bathing for weeks -- as an opportunity.
"It's simple. They want water. I have it, as long as they agree to get baptized," he said.
And agree they do. Every day, soldiers take the plunge for the Lord and come up clean for the first time in weeks.
"They do appear physically and spiritually cleansed," Llano said.
First, though, the soldiers have to go to one of Llano's hour-and-a-half sermons in his dirt-floor tent. Then the baptism takes an hour of quoting from the Bible.
"Regardless of their motives," Llano said, "I get the chance to take them closer to the Lord."
A blue-eyed 32-year-old with an abundance of energy, Llano goes out every day to drum up grimy soldiers for his pool. He talks to truck drivers, tank drivers, computer specialists -- anyone and everyone. He goes out to the combat zone to the fighting soldiers and the combat support soldiers who keep them in supplies.
"You have to be aggressive to help people find themselves in God," he said.
He calls himself a Southern Baptist evangelist and justifies the war and killing with a verse from the Gospel of Matthew, which he often recites: "Give unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's and unto God the things that are God's."
"This means we are called upon by our government to fight, and that is giving unto Caesar, as the Bible tells us," he said.
Earlier this week, word went out that portable showers might be installed here soon, but Llano was undaunted.
"There is no fruit out here, and I have a stash of raisins, juice boxes and fruit rolls to pull out," he said optimistically.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 18:32:39 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Nice try, but 18:10 fails the code test also.
US�
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 18:32:11 (EDT)
My two cents are:
It was the Iraqis who dropped like flies!
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 18:22:00 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Me too! He spoke with the seeming authority of a Neil Caputo!
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 18:20:54 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I got to admit, though, the guy had me going for a while!
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 18:20:05 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I agree, 18:14! That crazy Iraqi information minister wouldn't know the gates of Bagdad from the manhole covers of Stockholm. What a lame-O.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 18:17:55 (EDT)
My two cents are:
My two cents are: Gore is surging right to the White
House............John? J - Tuesday, October 24, 2000 at 11:22:45 (EDT)
and the invading crusaders are dropping like flies on the walls of baghdad!
and snowballs don't melt in hell, - Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 18:17:11 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Whoever this Neil Caputo is, he's a deep one all right. I'd keep up with what he has to say from now on, if someone will explain how I might do that. Does he have a radio show, or is he on TV?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 18:16:10 (EDT)
My two cents are:
My two cents are: Enough to say,hang it up,Trogs. Gore is the anointed
one and will be in Wash. for his inaugeration in Jan..........John? J - Wednesday, September
20, 2000 at 19:00:04 (EDT)
and america's army will be falls slain on the gates of baghdad
and pigs will soar, - Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 18:14:12 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I, too, am sickened.
Yepe�
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 18:13:42 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I would like to jump in here and say that I, too, am sickened by the performance of old Europe, not to mention those who were against the uncurling thumb of the cruel dictator.
Proud to be the Liberator of Araby
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 18:13:01 (EDT)
My two cents are:
This is the end of history. (01)
Pete�
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 18:10:30 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Nice try, but 18:07 fails the code test.
Glint
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 18:08:59 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Glint gets so officially poetic when he's being self-righteous. I particularly like that "being beamed across the world....", although "under the thumb of a cruel dictator" ain't bad. It's as if some with a name like Neil Caputo taught him to write just the way he thinks.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 18:08:08 (EDT)
My two cents are:
18:02 fails the code test.
Glint
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 18:07:04 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Who's Neil Cavuto?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 18:04:19 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Right, Glint. And the U.N. resolution demanding that Iraq destroy its supplies of nerve gas and anthrax would be seen as a mere scrap of paper. And we would be sitting here like ducks in a state of orange.
Pete�
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 18:02:24 (EDT)
My two cents are:
So that's it? The slime retreated into marginalized coffee kisks? The pendulum swang? I feel all fresh and new all over, like a naked baby in his nurse's arms. I feel like a flower that has just unfolded its petals in a gentle rain. I'm not worried-- I can't even imagine worrying. THE MAN is in charge!(01)
Glint
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 17:59:05 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Neil Cavuto's comments were dead on concerning the sickening and pathetic performance in recent months by the old Europe nations of France and Germany. I feel that what he said applies equally well to all the pancake flapping red paint splashing peaceniks who have tried to turn public opinion against the liberation of Iraq. If it were up to them, the crowds of celebrating Iraqi citizens being beamed across the world today would still be under the thumb of a cruel dictator.
Glint
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 17:54:01 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Tarek al-Absi, a Yemeni university professor, was hopeful Saddam's end presaged more democracy in the region. "This is a message for the Arab regimes, and could be the beginning of transformation in the Arab region," al-Absi said. "Without the honest help of the Western nations, the reforms will not take place in these countries."
worth repeteing
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 17:16:04 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Glint, it seems that the liberals are in total complete retreat. Victory is Right, not Left. The lies of the liberals are exposed. The last vestiges of the Cliton slime is retreating into marginalized coffee kiosks. The pendulum has swung back to truth and independence, not lies and fractionalized socialism. Democrats as failed policy liars are done. The Victory is complete. Out. (01)
Pete�
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 17:01:13 (EDT)
My two cents are:
RIYADH, Saudi Arabia (AP) -- The fall of Baghdad provoked shock and disbelief Wednesday among Arabs, who expressed hope that other oppressive regimes would crumble but also disappointment that Saddam Hussein did not put up a better fight against America.
"Why did he fall that way? Why so fast?" said Yemeni homemaker Umm Ahmed, tears streaming down her face. "He's a coward. Now I feel sorry for his people."
Arabs clustered at TV sets in shop windows, coffee shops, kitchens and offices to watch the astounding pictures of U.S. troops overwhelming an Arab capital for the first time ever.
Feeling betrayed and misled, some turned off their sets in disgust when jubilant crowds in Baghdad celebrated the arrival of U.S. troops.
"We discovered that all what the (Iraqi) information minister was saying was all lies," said Ali Hassan, a government employee in Cairo, Egypt. "Now no one believes Al-Jazeera anymore.
In a live report from Baghdad, correspondent Shaker Hamed of Abu Dhabi Television said:"We are all in shock. How did things come to such an end? How did U.S. tanks enter the center of the city? Where is the resistance? This collapse is puzzling. Was it the result of the collapse of communications between the commanders? Between the political leadership? How come Baghdad falls so easily."
Mohammed al-Shahhal, a 49-year-old teacher in Tripoli, Lebanon, said the scenes reminded him of the collapse of the Soviet Union.
Tannous Basil, a 47-year-old cardiologist in Sidon, Lebanon, said Saddam's regime was a "dictatorship and had to go."
"I don't like the idea of having the Americans here, but we asked for it," he said. "Why don't we see the Americans going to Finland, for example? They come here because our area is filled with dictatorships like Saddam's."
Tarek al-Absi, a Yemeni university professor, was hopeful Saddam's end presaged more democracy in the region.
"This is a message for the Arab regimes, and could be the beginning of transformation in the Arab region," al-Absi said. "Without the honest help of the Western nations, the reforms will not take place in these countries."
The overwhelming emotions for many Arabs were disbelief or disillusionment after weeks of hearing Saddam's government pledge a "great victory" or fight to the death against "infidel invaders."
"We Arabs are clever only at talking," Haitham Baghdadi, 45, said bitterly in Damascus, Syria. "Where are the Iraqi weapons? Where are the Iraqi soldiers?"
Many resorted to conspiracy theories to explain the rapid collapse.
"There must have been treason," said Ahmed Salem Batmira, an Omani political analyst.
"It seems there was some deal. Saddam has put himself ahead of his people," said Yemeni government employee Saad Salem el-Faqih, 50.
Three men having tea and smoking in a coffee shop in Riyadh were unsettled as they watched the TV - even though they said they were against Saddam and felt sorry for the long-suffering Iraqis.
"I can't say that I'm happy about what's going on because these are non-Muslim forces that have gone in and I hope they will not stay," said Mohammed al-Sakkaf, a 58-year-old businessman.
In Jordan, hotel receptionist Wissam Fakhoury, 28, said he was disappointed in the Baghdad crowds.
"I spit on them," he said. "Do those crowds who are saluting the Americans believe that the United States will let them live better?" Fakhoury said.
Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Saud, looking upset at a news conference, called for a quick end to Iraq's "occupation." In a rare departure from diplomacy, Saud responded to a question about Arab anger toward the United States with: "I don't want to talk about anger if you don't mind today."
see what happens when people finally open their eyes to the truth! Naysayers will nitpick, but they are jsut proving their stupidity and hatred for the truth and love only for their own agenda
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 16:57:39 (EDT)
My two cents are:
VANCOUVER -- Jane Fonda told a Canadian audience that she fears the U.S. campaign in Iraq will turn people all over the world against America.
``What it's going to mean for (America's) stability as a nation, for terrorism, for the economy - I can't imagine,'' Fonda said Tuesday. ``I think the entire world is going to be united against us.''
That frightens her, she said, but she isn't sure what Americans can do about it.
``I don't know if a country where the (liberal) people are so ignorant of reality and of history, if you can call that a free world,'' she said.
naysaying traitors must look in teh m irror first adn stand aghast at their own total ignorance
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 16:48:50 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I just witnessed something I don't think I'll ever forget. I was down near the cafeteria in the Pentagon meeting a friend for lunch and I see a very large crowd of people inside.
I walk in and soon find myself standing less than three feet away from our Commander-in-Chief and right beside the Secretary of Defense (and a bunch of Secret Service folks).
President Bush was walking around shaking hands and thanking all of us for what we do. He kept saying to people "Don't Worry" -- as if to say, I've got it under control. He must have shaken 1000 hands or more. What particularly struck me was his presence - not a particularly large man in stature, but he had an aura of a giant - a smile on his face, yet you can sense he was a man on a mission - a man of purpose and conviction - there was just this feeling that he is THE MAN, and he is in charge - he had a quiet confidence that was deafening!
Then, a group of folks just behind me started singing God Bless America and, in no time, the entire room - which was packed - was singing the song. It was enough to give anyone goose bumps. If there was a dry eye in the place, I couldn't see it (probably because my eyes weren't too dry). It was just one of those once-in-a-life-time experiences that I shall never forget.
After God Bless America, there were a few chants of "USA-USA-USA," followed by a lot of applause.
When President Bush finally made his way toward the entrance, he turned with his confident smile and waved at everyone, and the room just erupted in cheers and whistles and applause.
I've been to professional football games where the noise wasn't that loud. It was just such a wonderful experience and it made me:
1) So very happy that George W. Bush is our president and Commander-in-Chief.
2) So proud to be an American.
Just thought I'd share, Rick
LtCol Rick Jones HQ USAF
President Bush!
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 16:14:24 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Ahmed Chalabi, leader of the opposition Iraqi National Congress, has allegedly received an enthusiastic welcome in southern Iraq.
The controversial Mr Chalabi, who wants to be prime minister, was flown to Nassiriya by the US military on Sunday, despite objections from the CIA and state department that he is not a credible leader.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 16:03:53 (EDT)
My two cents are:
How's Osama's recruiting going?
oh gosh, wasn't there a war when someone actually attacked us? as opposed to the reverse?
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 16:03:51 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Handle international conflict? Sheeit, I thought they created international conflict. Glad I'm not sitting within range of Kim Jong, though, and don't have to shit in my pants about any more Jose Padillas now that terrorism has been stomped.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 15:48:35 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The shows that seek my attention are Entertainment Tonight and Get Me Out of Here, I'm a Celebrity. I will stand up and fight for my right to request the exclusion of the faces of liberal Hollywood from those shows.
Patriotic TV Fan
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 15:40:59 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I particularly want to see the faces of liberal Hollywood excluded from NASCAR racing and professional bowling, both of which seek my attention.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 15:37:19 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I would stand up and fight for Jon Alvarez's right to request the exclusion of the faces of liberal Hollywood from shows and sponsors that seek his attention, but my lottery number was too low.
Pete�
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 15:36:12 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Pete, ever the man of nuance, opines as how North Korea is a different kettle of fish.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 15:30:45 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Pod People Follow Your Leader!
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 15:29:07 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I think good spin for the picture would be "happy mother and daughter celebrate the banishment of scoundrels from the Middle East."
Glint
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 15:28:56 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Of course, the liebrals want to set the hoenst truth loving Americans up for failure. North Korea is an entirely different issue. Bush also knows this. Keep watching, you traitors might learn how the real Americans (as opposed to the Madeline Dim-wit and Cliton morons) handle international conflict. Thank God those idiots are OUT of power. Let's keep it that way forever!
Pete�
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 15:24:47 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Now that the Middle East has been pacified, now that it's all over but the award ceremony, can we take on this lunatic in North Korea?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 15:09:45 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Grumbles you doubt that Abu Ghazaleh ever grumbled.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 15:08:11 (EDT)
My two cents are:
�We will stand up and fight for our right to request their exclusion from shows and sponsors that seek our attention.�
Alvarez writes with almost the lucidity of a Pete
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 15:06:19 (EDT)
My two cents are:
There was shock and disbelief in the West Bank and Gaza Strip Wednesday as Palestinians gathered around TV sets to watch US Marines and Iraqi residents knock down a giant statute of Saddam Hussein in Tahrir Square in central Baghdad.
"I'm stunned and appalled. I can't understand what is happening," said Rustum Abu Ghazalah, a 30-year-old shopkeeper in the center of Ramallah.
He and grim-faced fellow shopkeepers zapped from one Arab TV station to another with the hope of discovering that what they were hearing and watching was nothing more than a US-produced Hollywood film.
"This can't be true," grumbled Abu Ghazaleh. "Where are the suicide bombers? Where are the Fedayeen of Saddam? Where are the heroic Republican Guards?"
Some Palestinian officials, however, expressed relief that the war was in its final stages now that Saddam's regime has collapsed. They said they hoped that now the US and the rest of the world would pay more attention to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
"We hope that Washington will now have time to solve our problems here," one official told The Jerusalem Post. "Let's hope that the US will now implement the road map plan for peace in the Middle East and force Israel to stop its aggression on our people."
Since the beginning of the war, many Palestinians have been staging daily demonstrations in support of Saddam. The protests have often turned into anti-American and anti-British rallies where Palestinians burned effigies of US President George W. Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair.
At least two Palestinian groups, Fatah and Islamic Jihad, announced that they had dispatched suicide bombers to Iraq to join in the fight against the US and British troops. Hundreds of Palestinian volunteers from Lebanon, Syria and the West Bank and Gaza Strip are reported to have arrived in Iraq to participate in the fighting.
"This is a sad day for all the Arabs and Muslims, particularly the Palestinians," said Nael al-Am, a 36-year-old grocery owner in Ramallah. He is one of the few merchants who still keep a large-size poster of the deposed Iraqi president. Friends describe him as a staunch supporter of Saddam.
"I invested a lot of money in buying a satellite dish and a new TV set because I wanted to watch the day the battle for Baghdad begins," explained the bearded shopkeeper. "I was sure that this was going to be one of the great battles of the century, where an Arab army would inflict heavy losses on the invading crusaders. I feel as if a dagger has been stuck in my heart when I see American soldiers strolling in the heart of Baghdad."
Salim Jaber, a taxi driver from the nearby town of Beitunia, said he decided to call it a day when he heard on radio the news from Baghdad. "I just couldn't continue driving," he said. "It was very difficult for me and the passengers. I've never seen such solemn faces. It was as if they had lost dear ones."
Many Palestinians said Saddam was the only Arab leader who sided with them both morally and financially in their confrontation with Israel. "He gave us a sense of pride because he was the only Arab leader who stood up against Israel and the US," said Abdel Majiud al-Bahs, a 46-year-old engineer. "Now that Saddam is gone, the Palestinians feel like orphans. We have lost an important ally. He was even more popular than Yasser Arafat."
Since the beginning of the intifada more than two years ago, Saddam has paid about 30 million dollars to families of Palestinian victims of the violence, including suicide bombers who blew themselves up in Israel. The money was channeled through the pro-Iraqi Arab Liberation Front, a tiny Palestinian faction operating in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. The last time Saddam's representative handed out checks to Palestinians was last week.
Some Palestinians chose to vent their anger on the Arab media, especially al-Jazeera, Abu Dhabi and al-Arabiya TV stations, for broadcasting lies about the developments on the battlefield. "For the past three weeks these stations gave us the impression that Iraq had the upper hand in the fighting against the US and British forces," complained Yahya al-Natsheh, the owner of a boutique in al-Bireh, the twin city of Ramallah.
"Where is the liar [Iraqi information minister Mohammed] Sahhaf," he asked rhetorically. "He sounded and looked so confidant when he told us that the Iraqis were slaughtering the crusaders and mercenaries at the gates of Baghdad. Everyone believed that the Iraqis were cleverly luring the Americans and British into Baghdad, which was supposed into a huge graveyard for the crusaders."
Older Palestinians said the events in Iraq are reminiscent of the Six Day War, when Arab radio stations and leaders told their audiences that Israel was on the verge of defeat. They said the TV appearances of the Iraqi information minister, who remained defiant till the last minute, insisting that everything was under control and that the enemy had been defeated.
"Sahhaf reminded me of [Egyptian radio propagandist] Ahmed Said, who during the 1967 war, told us that the Israeli warplanes were falling like flies," said Abed al-Zamel, a 70-year-old retired schoolteacher from Silwad village near Ramallah. "Once again the Arabs have fallen victim to the lies of their leaders and media. We never learn from our mistakes. When the war erupted, I warned my sons not to watch Arab TV stations so they would not be disappointed and depressed when the truth eventually comes out."
just like liebrals who are forced to see the truth
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 15:05:24 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Damn straight! Let's stop these Hollywood bastards from forcing themselves down Jon Alvarez's throat! It is akin to rape, the way they been going at the poor bastard!
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 15:05:05 (EDT)
My two cents are:
We do not wish to see the faces of liberal Hollywood, particularly those that provided aid and comfort to Saddam Hussein,� protester Jon Alvarez e-mailed ABC. �We will stand up and fight for our right to request their exclusion from shows and sponsors that seek our attention.�
more warriors fro the battle against the treasonous liebrals
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 14:54:48 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Freedom & Dignity Iraqis get a taste.
By Amir Taheri
he Don't-Touch-Saddam lobby in Europe and the U.S. had prophesied that Baghdad would become Stalingrad 1942.
On Thursday, Baghdad became Paris after liberation in 1944.
It was a day of song and dance and jubilation in a capital liberated from more than four decades of brutal tyranny.
It was a day in which the accumulated angers and frustrations of almost two generations were released. In just hours the villainous icons, created over a quarter of a century, that symbolized a despicable regime, had been smashed into oblivion.
The people of Baghdad showed the world that they recognized liberators when they saw them. Their cries of Shukran Ya Bush (Thank You Bush) confounded the Hate-America International that had insisted that the Iraqis did not wish to be liberated and that, even if they were, they would hate the U.S. even more for it.
Here is the first lesson to draw from the liberation of Baghdad: Iraqis, and Arabs in general, are no different from other human beings. They, too, prefer to live in freedom and dignity. They, too, are grateful to those who come to their aid in their hour of need. They, too, reject the disease of anti-Americanism that prevents so many otherwise sane people from acknowledging that the United States can be a force for the good.
� Amir Taheri, Iranian author of ten books on the Middle East and Islam, is based in Europe.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 14:51:20 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Try spin this you fuckwad liebral traitors.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 14:25:47 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I have had chance for speaking the phrase often. "In country" that is. Ever since those feet-in-the-sink-washing prayer rug pilots were causing everybody's pants to get wet creased each time they washed their hands in the lavatory.
Glint
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 14:21:22 (EDT)
My two cents are:
In country bumpkin.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 14:20:59 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Why does a fascist like Glint even pretend to like America?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 14:17:03 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Why would a lump of dirt, like Glint, even venture to say, "in country?"
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 14:13:45 (EDT)
My two cents are:
you see, what the tired old geezer is trying to say is that "in country" means "in vietnam" not in iraq. now, will you please stop arguing with the fuddy duddy pensioner so he'll finally stfu?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 14:10:43 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Sounds like Glint is going to make a killing off this war! Now tell me that's not Americanism.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 14:07:13 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Out here in California, Glit, we like to think that eating Rice-a-Roni is an act of Americans, and indeed a celebration of America. We of course honor your right to celebrate the facility with which our armed forces can kill people, and respectfully request that you validate our alternate varieties of Americanism.
patriot
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 14:05:13 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I say they all get a free subscription to "Hi!"
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 14:02:03 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Again with the California jealousy. Pathetic.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 14:01:26 (EDT)
My two cents are:
This is great! They love us! Let's go make more friends!
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 14:01:21 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The best thing about terms like "in country" is how some ugly rube tosses them around when he gets to watch a war on the TV. Wonder if he also rents a realistic uniform from the costume shop.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 14:00:17 (EDT)
My two cents are:
To a perceptive guy like Glit, a vulgar celebration of interim jingo is necessarily "pro-American." But why can't an enthusiasm for Pepsodent tooth paste be equally pro-American? Why do we cut out the Dodge Truck advertising campaign? And then we have Chinese New Year, isn't that pro-American when you get right down to it? We don't have to dismember and burn people to be American, do we? An what does the grunt-in-the-street say about all this? Are they taking ears, or are they a little queasy about what it turns out to be like? Tell me more, Glit. Tell me what else you've learned from watching television.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 13:59:39 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Yeah right.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 13:58:44 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Wait a minute, guy-- Glit heard it on TELEVISION! You're not one of these guys who goes around dissing what he hears on television, are you?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 13:53:13 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Those of us who have been in-country, Glit, understand its use. We cannot be held responsible for the utterances of retired officers of the quartermaster corps.
patriot
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 13:52:16 (EDT)
My two cents are:
With fire and sword the country round
Was wasted far and wide,
And many a childing mother then
And newborn baby died;
But things like that, you know, must be
At every famous victory.....
"They say it was a shocking sight
After the field was won;
For many thousand bodies here
Lay rotting in the sun;
But things like that, you know, must be
After a famous victory....
"And everybody praised the Duke
Who this great fight did win."
"But what good came of it at last?"
Quoth little Peterkin.
"Why that I cannot tell," said he,
"But 'twas a famous victory."
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 13:49:38 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I heard the phrase "in country" used on TV today. One of those retired general types talking about which groups ought to be next to go "in country." Funny how little phrases like that tickle some people's fancy so much. Oh well, probably because you don't understand its use. <> Pro-America demonstrations from Baghdad to Michigan today. California may take a while. Aversion to good news in tight @assed Liberal enclaves such as those clingons hanging around on the bay doors.
Glint
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 13:47:34 (EDT)
My two cents are:
10% per year. The economy will perk up after the 2004 purge.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 13:47:20 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Good advice, but history shows you can count on a 10% rise in equities over any 29 year period. Get in for the long haul and stay in.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 13:46:36 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Why, exactly, does anyone think the US economy is going to perk up?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 13:45:23 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Roth IRA's? Might be a good bet. Sure, stocks could go down, but I like to think you can bet on a 3% rise, not counting dividends, which, who knows, more outfits might distribute some if they think there'll be a tax revolt.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 13:44:15 (EDT)
My two cents are:
That's really interesting, In Country. Geesh, you lead a fascinating "life."
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 13:20:47 (EDT)
My two cents are:
My guess is those "skanky peacenick bitches" would be relieved to know that a squash-faced rube pervert, like Glint, says he doesn't hunger for them. Poor Brenda.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 13:19:39 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Gas prices here are almost breaking into the $1.50's on the way down. Thanks to the Bush Iraqi energy plan Wall Street is expecting gas prices to continue downward over the summer. <> Liberal Montgomery County wants to enable donut killers to photograph license plates and send tickets in the mail. The state's Repbulican Gov is expected to veto the fascist's plan.
Glint
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 13:16:50 (EDT)
My two cents are:
It's always amazing to me how an eyesore like In Country can possibly find any woman not up to his standards.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 13:15:10 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Classy, In Country, classy.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 13:13:25 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I just got done shaving my wife's pussy. Stepped in the door and found her sh1tty tailed cat has been dragging its ass from carpet to carpet leaving smears like I haven't seen since those skanky peacenick bitches stood up in the snow with their ugly pancake breasts flopping around. - Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 13:09:12 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Good thing because I just opened two new Roth IRAs earlier this week in anticipation. Now watch them rise. >< That patriot
screed below at 10:39 is music to the ear as the writer is apparently getting a whiff of morning in America coffee. Better get used to it. We don't like your kind. :-)
Glint
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 13:06:27 (EDT)
My two cents are:
NEW YORK�Buoyed by positive news from the war front, the Dow Jones Industrial Average soared more than 300 points Monday after the killing of more than 400 Republican Guard soldiers near the northern Iraqi town of Mosul. "These deaths have really boosted investor optimism and confidence," New York Stock Exchange chairman Dick Grasso said.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 10:42:28 (EDT)
My two cents are:
WASHINGTON, DC�During a White House meeting with visiting Spanish prime minister and fellow allied-forces leader Jose Maria Aznar, President Bush subconsciously sized up Spain for invasion Monday.
Above: Bush's mind wanders while he shakes Aznar's hand.
"Aznar was pledging his ongoing support for the Iraqi war effort when, out of nowhere, this odd look came across George's face," National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice said. "He sat quiet for a moment, like he was going to say something, but then he just shook his head as if to chase the thought away."
Next pi�ata, please.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 10:39:40 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Typical Old Europe. When are you going to get it? This isn't business as usual. We are not into nation-building. This is an oil grab. You show me oil in Israel or Palestine and I might think about it.
Cheney
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 10:28:11 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Liberation for Iraqi people.It is now an option.
Has Bush(Rummy) the balls to do the same for Israel and Palestine, that hemorrhoid of Earth?
Ever going conflict in that area is an origin for all the terrorism.
European
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 09:35:33 (EDT)
My two cents are:
When past and present meet. Bobbsey twins meeting in Northern Ireland (present victim of British colonialism) to discuss dividing up the spoils in Iraq (past victim of British colonialism).
bit of irony
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 02:45:45 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Pride in being an American? It's getting a little tough to maintain. America is doing some shitty things in the world, and can't seem to shake the disease of troglodytism at home. "American" is taking on ugly connotations steamed in the odor of mean-spirited shitheads like Pete and moronic yahoos like Glit, and the little shit who was installed in the presidency by the cynical ayatollahs of the Republican party. Maybe it's just Bush and the people who run Bush projecting the disgusting American yahoo out onto the world stage, foisting the bad stuff that was always here, the worse nature of America, onto the rest of the world and shaming us all. Maybe what's happening is that the bottom-feeders, who in the past stayed, pinch-minded and clutching their Bibles, in backwaters like Nebraska, have ventured forth into the world out of fear that they will run out of gas for their Oldsmobiles. Maybe America is no more shameful than it ever was, but is being shameful on a world stage and so seems much worse. Or maybe Glit is right and this really is "history", and good countries just don't last long (except for France), and George Bush Junior is what we deserve and what we are.
patriot
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 01:49:58 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Hey, Bosco, listen here... do you think that sort of thing helps the troops? Get with the program.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 01:36:52 (EDT)
My two cents are:
by Jerry Long
I've always had a fairly simple definition of patriotism: You can take pride in being an American and still dislike Lee Greenwood songs.
While Americans may not know the nationalities of the Sept. 11 hijackers, let alone the members of the Carlyle Group, we all claim to know what is or isn't patriotic in time of war. But do we? If people incinerate Dixie Chicks CDs while remaining uninterested in the number of innocent lives our bombs have incinerated, are they patriots? Second-tier celebrities Mike Farrell and Janeane Garofalo are vilified for their positions, but third-tier celebrity Ben Stein can declare Iraq would be a "cakewalk." Is that patriotic?
If Gen. Richard Myers labels criticism of the battle plan by retired military men concerned for the safety of our soldiers as "harmful to our troops," what of the Perles and Wolfowitzes and Kristols who did so much to bring about this war while painting scenarios of a flower-strewn frosting trot? Did that support the troops?
Many who have never seen combat have found a fail-safe way to prove they are patriots: They tell us they are. William Bennett, who never fought for anything more consequential than grant money, writing a book titled Why We Fight might not be as morally leprous as the jingoistic professor in All Quiet On The Western Front, but is it patriotism?
As for the media, in the months preceding our invasion, there was so much laughter at Pentagon press briefings reporters should have been charged a two-drink minimum. Was that patriotism?
Cable news programs will exhibit our weaponry, they will explain the ingenious capability with which it can kill... but they will not show us the dead. They will not show us the blood-spattered marketplace, the chunks of flesh, the severed head, the liquefied remains. Those images are reserved for the rest of the world.
Yet these same news organizations, which don't give a moment's thought to how the average Egyptian may view "situation room" set designs of Americans literally walking all over a map of the Middle East, will invariably ask themselves in sonorous tones: "Why do they hate us?" And nothing in the conclusions they draw will discourage an average citizen from believing that an Iraqi teenager who lost his entire family in a bombing raid hates us because he, in the words of our President, "hates our freedom." Is that patriotism?
Saddam is a butcher... but he always was. And it would have been nice if tough-talking Don Rumsfeld, during one of his early '80s grovels to Baghdad, in lieu of warm handshakes and canape nibbling, had shot him. It would be even nicer if so many of our leaders had not chosen to embed themselves with profit.
Dick Cheney amassed a fortune peddling connections made during the first Gulf War. Did he give any of that money to the families of the 148 Americans who died to win it?
Henry Kissinger and George Mitchell fled the 9/11 commission rather than reveal, or discontinue working for, their international clients. Vast bipartisan armies of retired politicians are fanned out over Capitol Hill, dedicated to maintaining the status quo on the security of our nuclear plants, food and water; representing the interests of foreign governments and multinational corporations, with no greater concern for future ramifications beyond their billable time for the next quarter. Is war profiteering by lobbyists the same as patriotism?
Just before his Oval Office speech announcing war, President Bush was shown joking with the makeup assistant, pumping his fist, and exclaiming, "I feel good." And while I'm unconditionally uninterested in how he feels, I do care what he thinks.
Does he truly think God has called him to fight evil? How does God tell him which evil to fight? How much evil will God sanction to destroy a great evil? And... if he knew this war would result in only one dead Iraqi child and one brave 20-year-old's casket on the tarmac at Dover, would Jesus "feel good" about starting it?
Or aren't those the thoughts of a patriot? ?
getting rid of saddam equates to jesus throwing out the money changers regardless of collateral damage dontcha know?
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 00:38:53 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Pete might be the lucky one. Glit was part of a family, but look at the loaf it pinched off. It's amazing they made it through the Nebraska ethanasia fads of the early 20th centurey.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 00:17:30 (EDT)
My two cents are:
When you think about it, Pete has never even belonged to a family, let alone a state. We're talking about a kid who was pinched out like a Jamaican loaf and fobbed off on whoever was willing to take a chance. He belonged only in the sense that he was acquired rather than born to those who would serve as his family, and was a belonging rather than a son, until, seeing the horrendous slime pod that the ugly duckling turned into, they turned their backs on him.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 00:13:07 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"A state is in its very idea a society," Newman wrote in 1853, "and a society is a collection of many individuals made one by their participation in some common possession, and to the extent of that common possession, the presence of that possession held in common constitutes the life, and the loss of it constitutes the dissolution, of a state." Now, Pete, who has never belonged to anything but the Crackpot Society, thinks that Iraqi oil is going to be the possession held in common that is the life of some state that he will actually get to belong to. Problem is, the Iraqi oil isn't going to be held in common. It is to be held by the people who, for lack of a better name, can be referred to as Halliburton. Certainly none of the wealth of Iraq is going to rub off on the island crackpot or the mediocre computer engineering rube. Pete will end up with neither state nor wealth, but that's about where he is now and what does he have to lose?
Newman, 1853
- Wednesday, April 09, 2003 at 00:09:50 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Typical socialist liberal traitors. This is surgical bombing, traitor. We don't hit the waiters, dishwashers, cooks, hat-check girls, bus-boys, rest-room attendants, and the other restaurant patrons. Oh, sure, sometimes there is a little collateral damage, a few families wiped out. But on the whole this is surgical. And the President told everybody to leave Iraq.
Pi�ata Boy
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 23:55:20 (EDT)
My two cents are:
2 senses of liberal
Sense 1
liberal, progressive -- a person who favors a political philosophy of progress and reform and the protection of civil liberties.
Sense 2
liberal -- a person who favors an economic theory of laissez-faire and self-regulating markets.
it's all good
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 23:50:32 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Friendly fire is something you do to yourself, unavoidably and unfixably or so it seems. Another unavoidable is the blown-up, burned, or dismembered children, who unlike professional soldiers shouldn't be expected to suffer for Bush Jr, or for Wolfie and the others who are supposed to have dreamed this up and sold it to the moron. It looks to me as if all they're getting for it is a few contracts for Halliburton and a lot of ill will from the craziest people on earth, and the opportunity to sit there watching it unfold for the next few years until it's all fucked up enough so that the only thing to do is leave.
patriot
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 23:43:52 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I heard the Bobbsey Twins today and must say I'm was so impressed. They're going to fix N. Ireland, Holy Land, and Iraq messes. Although don't recall if they said they would fix the friendly fire messes.
things are looking good
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 22:57:51 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Iraq is just the first pi�ata, jack. We need a whole ceiling full of pi�atas, because history is being written, here. Ain't never been nothing like it, not in Nebrasky, not nowheres! We'uns is on a roll, and it doesn't get anything but better.
Shallow Rube
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 22:48:45 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Hey, ya can't make an omelette without breaking a few pi�atas.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 22:47:00 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Well, I for one am glad that we have in our camp stout men who are capable of making cold decisions to bomb restaurants where they think a bad guy is eating, and who have the courage to sacrifice whatever maitre d', waiters, dishwashers, cooks, hat-check girls, bus-boys, rest-room attendants, and honeymoon couples may be nearby.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 22:45:48 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Snippy's staying the course. After all, we ignored the U.N. and went to war to show the Iraqis that the U.N. can't be ignored.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 21:45:23 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I need to hear that message many, many times.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 21:34:40 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Here�s what George W. Bush and Tony Blair promised at their news conference in Northern Ireland today. First, we�re going to get out of Iraq so that Iraqis can govern themselves. Second, we�re going to stay in Iraq so that Iraqis can govern themselves.�It�s important for the Iraqi people to continue to hear this message,� said Bush.
Operation Mass Confusion
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 21:31:02 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I told everybody to get out of Iraq. Nobody listened.
Snippy
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 21:18:15 (EDT)
My two cents are:
It's just one big pi�ata tournament and our team is at its peak. Bring 'em on! All our boys need is a few weeks R&R, then back at it. Pi�ata time!
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 21:16:58 (EDT)
My two cents are:
There is nothing so despicable in history as non-combattant jingos crowing about their famous victories. Entire literatures have been based on it, schools of though, maybe even religions. And yet the one thing we can always count on, forever without end, is flaccid self-satisfied parasitic couch potatoes like Pete and Glint, without the class or maybe the basic humanity to sense that war is a bad thing, in the long run even for the people who don't have to fight in it, and that it is not just a place provided for them to soothe their petty hatreds and frustrations with thoughts of somebody else's dead children.
patriot
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 21:15:27 (EDT)
My two cents are:
What history do you figure Glit thinks has a first pi�ata, whack it and toys and candy fall out, then a second pi�ata, with more toys and candy, then a third and so on until your forces are really hardened and can beat any great military power on the globe (except for North Korea, Vietnam or China.) Glit, Glit, Glit, history is always being made, and writes lessons that if you wait long enough you will see them on the History Channel. There might already be one about the little rube boy who thought that everything he hit would spout toys and candy, or is that the fairy tales? Relax, Glit. Let's wait and see what comes out of this pi�ata. Give it a year, Glit, or at least a month or two. As Rummy says, we don't really know what we have until we drag it in under the lights and check it out.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 21:05:52 (EDT)
My two cents are:
With Pete it's not being enough a part of America. The classic island inferority complex. Born in a "protectorate," Pete was made an honorary "American" stuck on a rock, surrounded by water, thousands of miles away from real America. Sad really.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 20:36:07 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Besides the cretins that flew Pete's planes into Pete's buildings, are dead.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 20:32:36 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I think the best is when he tries to pass himself off as some sort of intellecto-smart guy, as with the weird Newman fragments pasted in below. You really want peak lameness, there it is.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 20:32:00 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"We did nothing to these cretins who flew our planes into our buildings, but if they want to take it on, we will meet it...." Isn't it poignant when Pete thinks he is enough part of something to say "we?" The eternally wedgied bizarre clumsy lunk finally thinks he's found a home in somebody else's defense against imaginary threats. The poor, pitiful asshole.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 20:29:37 (EDT)
My two cents are:
11 Journalists Die in 21 Days of War
By TIMOTHY L. O'BRIEN
uring the 43 days that comprised the Persian Gulf war in 1991, no journalists lost their lives in the conflict. In the current war in Iraq, now just 21 days old, 11 journalists have died, including three who were killed today in United States military strikes in Baghdad.
Tariq Ayoub, a Jordanian journalist working for the Arab news service Al-Jazeera, died after two American missiles struck his company's headquarters in downtown Baghdad just after dawn today. Later in the day, about a mile across town, an American tank shelled Baghdad's Palestine Hotel, where most foreign journalists are based, killing two television cameramen � Taras Protsyuk, 35, a Ukranian national working for Reuters, and Jose Couso, 37, of the Telecinco Spanish television station, who was fatally injured in the attack.
American forces also reportedly fired on an office owned by Abu Dhabi Television, an Arab broadcasting network, this morning.
Joel Simon, acting director of the Committee to Protect Journalists, a New York-based non-profit group that monitors the welfare of journalists worldwide, said his organization plans to send a letter to Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld asking for an inquiry into the attacks on the Al-Jazeera headquarters and the Palestine Hotel strikes. He said the attacks, particularly on the hotel, may have violated international law by unnecessarily endangering civilians and non-combatants.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 20:12:52 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Mommy had to go down too. After all, she brought him into this Christians-only-be-prime-numbers world.
math problem
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 19:30:58 (EDT)
My two cents are:
He was hit because of the gas he sold as "Chemical Ali." Killed the Kurds with it then hid on a civilian bus and drew our fire, killing innocent civilians along with his leg. There's a place for people like him down in old Miss. Within sight of the cryin' virgin statue.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 18:21:30 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Hussein Ali Hussein, 26, a door-to-door gas salesman, lay on a bed, the stump of one leg covered in a bloody bandage, a mass of flies settling on the gauze. He said that he had been in a car that was hit by an American tank shell as he drove south toward Kifl, near Najaf.
"We believed the Americans, when they said they were not going to attack civilians," he said. "Why would the Americans do this to me?" As nurses arrived to wheel him away for surgery, he added: "But we Iraqis will never accept that this country is ruled by anybody but Iraqis, so we will fight to the last drop of our blood."
Another patient, Bassan Hoki, 38, said he was in the bus attack. Surgeons had amputated his right arm above the elbow, and seeping bandages covered deep wounds on both his legs. Mr. Hoki, with a neatly trimmed, gray-flecked beard, gesticulated with his remaining arm as he described seeing the tank from the window of the bus.
"There was no warning, they simply opened fire," he said. In Hilla, about 30 miles south of Baghdad, relatives of injured Iraqis crowded into Hilla Hospital on Wednesday. Iraqi officials said civilians were injured and killed in an American attack.
He said that his mother, who was seated beside him, was killed instantly in the blast. "I looked around me, it seemed like everyone was dead," he said, "people's heads were snapped off their bodies. The bus was torn to pieces."
He said, "I have just one thing to say to George Bush. He is a criminal and a liar to talk of bringing us freedom. He attacks civilians for no reason. This is a crime, a crime, a crime."
can't be true, they love the liberator
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 18:09:48 (EDT)
My two cents are:
WASHINGTON - Questioning whether Vice President Dick Cheney's former company has received favored treatment from the Pentagon, senior House Democrats asked Congress' investigative agency Tuesday to delve into contracts awarded Halliburton Co. over the past two years.
Halliburton's KBR subsidiary has a record of gouging the government in contracts awarded without competition, Reps. Henry Waxman of California and John Dingell of Michigan contended in a letter to the General Accounting Office.
Halliburton spokeswoman Wendy Hall said the lawmakers have ignored the exemplary record of the Houston-based firm that employed Cheney as chief executive officer from 1995 to 2000 and still pays him deferred compensation for his services during that period.
"With more than 60 years of government experience, KBR has a proven track record on military contracts such as production of Navy warships for World War II, construction of the Phan Rang air base in Vietnam in 1965 and designation as the premier logistics service provider for U.S. troops in the Balkans," she said.
The lawmakers said federal procurement data showed that the government awarded KBR work worth more than $624 million from October 2000 through March 2002. Waxman is the senior minority member of the House Government Reform Committee, and Dingell holds the same position on the House Energy and Commerce Committee.
Hall said Halliburton does not comment on the amounts of its contracts but contended KBR had competed for its government work during the period cited, which disputes the letter's contention.
The lawmakers cited these previous problems with KBR, formerly Kellogg, Brown & Root:
-A GAO finding in 1997 that the company billed the Army for questionable expenses for work in the Balkans, including charges of $85.98 per sheet of plywood that cost $14.06.
-A year 2000 follow-up report on the Balkans work that found inflated costs, including charges for cleaning some offices up to four times a day.
-$2 million in fines paid in February, 2002, to resolve fraud claims involving work at Fort Ord, Calif. The Defense Department inspector general and a federal grand jury had investigated allegations by a former employee that KBR defrauded the government of millions of dollars by inflating prices for repairs and maintenance.
The Securities and Exchange Commission already is investigating Halliburton's accounting practices, looking into an accounting change made in 1998, during Cheney's tenure as CEO.
Halliburton announced last week it had decided not to enter a bidding process open only to a few experienced and well-connected firms for major postwar reconstruction projects in Iraq. Instead, the company said it would focus on becoming a secondary contractor.
KBR already has work in Iraq under a previous Defense Department contract to extinguish oil well fires. The firm hired subcontractors Boots & Coots International Well Control Inc. and Wild Well Control Inc., both also from Houston, to handle the firefighting work.
The two lawmakers complained in their letter that the contract was awarded without competition or notice to Congress, and it has no set limits in time or dollars.
traitor demonrats!
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 18:06:26 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Dullard tactics do, however, equate with liberal tactics. take Al Gore, for example.
Pete�
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 17:51:36 (EDT)
My two cents are:
But having to announce what you do is the tactic of a dullard.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 17:43:59 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Actually, 17:12, both are liberal tactics. Oh behave!
Pete�
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 17:42:10 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Get out of Iraq or we will kill you.
Snippy
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 17:38:07 (EDT)
My two cents are:
How can you talk about FPOTs at a time like this?
cameramen are dying after flouting clear warnings from the CIC
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 17:35:33 (EDT)
My two cents are:
ROTFLMFPOTO!!
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 17:31:16 (EDT)
My two cents are:
STFU!
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 17:20:33 (EDT)
My two cents are:
TWJD
that's what Jesus did
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 17:14:31 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Nice hid at his rear side!
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 17:13:35 (EDT)
My two cents are:
You know, Pete, it's good of you to let us know when you think you're using "liberal tactics." Kind of like reasuring us that cunnilingus is your specialty.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 17:12:41 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Sorry, 16:20, only when using liebral tactics as a tool. Fun, even if it is evil. Indulge yourself. Oh well. Soemtimes to fight the devil, you msut descend to hell to get a good shot. POW!!!
Pete�
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 17:03:48 (EDT)
My two cents are:
So, Snippy told everyone to get out country?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 16:58:39 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Judging from the "friendly fire" murders and the helicopter crashes, Bush should have warned the military to get out too.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 16:55:26 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Uh, the part about the news blackout?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 16:54:03 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"For their own safety, all foreign nationals, including journalists and inspectors, should leave Iraq immediately" -George W. Bush on March 17, 2003.
what part of this didn't they that are now dead understand
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 16:48:48 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I beg to differ. Pete is the first pi�ata.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 16:41:07 (EDT)
My two cents are:
That was pretty good GlipSpit satire. So much for we're not the policemen of the world. Har har har. Almost as good as balancing the budget. Haw haw.
bushist fascist sheeple invasion lemmings
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 16:38:12 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Hardened troops, that's what In Country loves. The harder the better.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 16:36:36 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The Last Refuge
By PAUL KRUGMAN
n 1944, millions of Americans were engaged in desperate battles across the world. Nonetheless, a normal presidential election was held, and the opposition didn't pull its punches: Thomas Dewey, the Republican candidate, campaigned on the theme that Franklin Roosevelt was a "tired old man." As far as I've been able to ascertain, the Roosevelt administration didn't accuse Dewey of hurting morale by questioning the president's competence. After all, democracy � including the right to criticize � was what we were fighting for.
It's not a slur on the courage of our troops, or a belittling of the risks they face, to say that our current war is a mere skirmish by comparison. Yet self-styled patriots are trying to impose constraints on political speech never contemplated during World War II, accusing anyone who criticizes the president of undermining the war effort.
Last week John Kerry told an audience that "what we need now is not just a regime change in Saddam Hussein and Iraq, but we need a regime change in the United States." Republicans immediately sought to portray this remark as little short of treason. "Senator Kerry crossed a grave line when he dared to suggest the replacement of America's commander in chief at a time when America is at war," declared Marc Racicot, chairman of the Republican National Committee.
Notice that Mr. Racicot wasn't criticizing Mr. Kerry's choice of words. Instead, he denounced Mr. Kerry because he "dared to suggest the replacement of America's commander in chief" � knowing full well that Mr. Kerry was simply talking about the next election. Mr. Racicot, not Mr. Kerry, is the one who crossed a grave line; never in our nation's history has it been considered unpatriotic to oppose an incumbent's re-election.
Anyway, what defines patriotism? Talk is cheap; so is putting a flag in your lapel. Citizens prove their patriotism when they make sacrifices for the sake of their country. Mr. Kerry, a decorated veteran, has met that test. Most of his critics haven't.
I'm not just talking about military service � though it's striking how few of our biggest hawks have served. Nor am I talking only about financial sacrifice � though profiting from public office seems to be the norm, not the exception, among those who wrap themselves in the flag. (Mr. Racicot himself accepted the job as R.N.C. chairman only on the condition that he remain on the payroll of Bracewell and Patterson, a law firm that specializes in lobbying.)
The biggest test of a politician's patriotism is whether he is willing to sacrifice some of his political agenda for the sake of the nation. And that's a test our current leaders have failed with flying colors.
Consider the case of Tom DeLay, the House majority leader, who also piled on Mr. Kerry last week. As it happens, during the war in Kosovo Mr. DeLay was a defeatist, and blamed his own country for provoking Serbian atrocities; any Democrat who said similar things now would be accused of giving aid and comfort to the enemy.
Mr. DeLay's political agenda hasn't shifted a bit now that we're at war again. He's still pushing for huge, divisive tax cuts that go mainly to the rich: "Nothing is more important in the face of a war than cutting taxes," he says. And he's still eager to slash any and all domestic spending. In the midst of war he pushed through a budget that included sharp cuts in, yes, veterans' benefits.
You can see why Mr. Kerry blasted back, "I'm not going to be questioned in my patriotism by the likes of Tom DeLay."
Some timid souls will suggest that critics of the Bush administration hold off until the war is over. But that's not the American tradition � and anyway, when will this war be over? Baghdad will fall, but during the occupation that follows American soldiers will still be in harm's way. Also, a strong faction within the administration wants to go on to Syria, to Iran and beyond. And Al Qaeda is still out there.
For years to come, then, this country may be, in some sense, at war. And all that time, if Mr. Racicot and his party are allowed to set the ground rules, nobody will be allowed to criticize the president or call for his electoral defeat. You know what? If that happens, we will have lost the war, whatever happens on the battlefield.
RACICOT MAKES TYPICAL BUSHIST STALINIST SLURS AGAINST DEMOCRATIC VALUES
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 16:36:31 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Good to hear from In Country.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 16:35:40 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Empty protestes? That's a good one, Glint.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 16:30:44 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Now that our forces are hardened through battle, let them mow down the next enemy. Pete, glopspit says it all. That's all they have left, and empty minded protestes against the destiny. History is being made and Baghdad is the first piñata. (01)
Glint
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 16:27:40 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"We did nothing to these cretins who flew our planes into our buildings" That's the war we ought to be fighting, instead of Perle's polisci wetdream imperialism grabaraboil plot.
Osama and Anthraxman, free and happy still
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 16:25:32 (EDT)
My two cents are:
???
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- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 16:23:57 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Pete counts himself as an adult?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 16:23:17 (EDT)
My two cents are:
concomitant.
get a spel-chek qik
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 16:22:13 (EDT)
My two cents are:
POT-y mouth pretty liberal only when casting aspersions.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 16:20:04 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Liberals said it all along--Bush Lite and his fascist bushists started World War III. Waste of our blood and money, courtesy of the blood and money-wasting bushist fascists. End o story.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 16:19:08 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Since we're already in the area, why don't we lift up the head of our dead sock puppet bin Laden and try whipping up the rabble. Start them walking into the buz saw we have waiting for them.
Weekend at Bernie's
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 16:12:46 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Rear Side and In Country. What a team!
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 16:10:02 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Lost his rear side.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 16:02:45 (EDT)
My two cents are:
You can't help us? You? You? A lunatic can't help us? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 16:02:02 (EDT)
My two cents are:
No "news" for faux-"patriot" worth his reading. The truth is odious to the likes of him and his ilk. Close your eyes and weep for those who don't swallow your naysaying glopspit. For those who do not listen to you, know the truth.
Pete�
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 16:01:48 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Yeah, dammit! Fly your own planes into our buildings!
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 16:00:45 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Well, these idiots obviously have no idea what is found to be a concomittant element found with sARS. I can't help you if you choose to be ignorant.
Pete�
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 15:59:59 (EDT)
My two cents are:
OK, so Pete is tangled up in a mess of half-understood excerpts from his JC philosophy textbook. Any other news today?
patriot
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 15:59:02 (EDT)
My two cents are:
If the shoe, fits (uh, sorta)...
lacking moral restraint, LICENTIOUS, not literal or strict, LOOSE
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 15:57:19 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I say, bring it on Osama, we have loads of liberals who want to be human shields. we can kill two birds with one stone. Look, liberal idiots, whether you want to admit it or not, we are in WWIII. Have been. You people need to step aside while the adults act to create the security essentila to preseerve your lattes. We did nothing to these cretins who flew our planes into our buildings, but if they want to take it on, we will meet it. Liberalism ahs allowed the insects to enter, right thinking Americans will now have to step up to the plate to return the proper balance. Get out of the way and shut the fuck up.
Pete�
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 15:56:29 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Geesh! You could have knocked me over with a feather when I found out that Newman said all that! And way back in 1853, too!
Big-hearted, bountiful, charitable, free, generous, lavish, magnanimous, munificent, open-handed, philanthropic, unselfish, unstinting,broad-minded, etc. liberal.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 15:54:09 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Anti-War Protesters Attack Mainstream Media.
About 1,000 people and I were standing at an anti-war rally in Harvard Yard a few days ago listening to the speaker, a Harvard professor named Brian Palmer, take the offensive. Palmer was angry -- not just at President Bush, Dick Cheney and Don Rumsfeld, but at the American media.
The press won't tell the truth about this war, Palmer declared. "CNN will show Iraqis dancing in the streets, but it won't show burned and crushed and obliterated bodies." The line brought a huge cheer.
Hostility to the American media has become an emerging theme of the anti-war movement. Protesters are giving voice to a feeling of betrayal, a sense that the media ought to be sympathetic to liberals but isn't -- and as a result, we're getting more propaganda than truth.
Thus, a Web site called UnitedForPeace.org lists the networks' phone numbers, urging callers to demand that the stations recite the numbers of civilian casualties. Protesters in Oregon have spat at and used pepper spray on media photographers.
At a recent San Francisco rally, a speaker from Pacifica Radio announced that he listened to NPR "to know what the enemy is saying. He added, "They talk a lot about being objective.... Well, we see what the objective of the mainstream media is. Their objective is to cheer the war on."
And in a letter to the Romenesko's Media News, a hangout for journalists, Nation columnist Katha Pollitt joined the anti-NPR chorus. Usually she loved NPR, she said, but now she found a lack of "serious discussion of how the invasion of Iraq is being discussed around the world." (Really? Sometimes I think that's all there is on NPR.)
Meanwhile, if I hear one more person tell me that I really need to watch the BBC to hear the truth, I'm going to start watching "Are You Hot?" just to show my patriotism. Some of this lashing out merely reflects the a cultural preference for things international -- if it's European, whether it's film, diplomacy or journalism, it must be better than the homegrown stuff.
Nor is all of the criticism wrong. The media have grown increasingly corporate, and large companies tend to be politically conservative. Partly as a result, the media have probably underplayed the intensity of the anti-war movement.
It's creepy to hear about Clear Channel, which seems to own just about every radio station in the country except NPR, forcing its station managers to organize pro-war rallies. Fox News, meanwhile, has become Faux News.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 15:49:28 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Don't forget these apt definitions of the slime that you are: "lacking moral restraint, LICENTIOUS, not literal or strict, LOOSE." Fits... Also: "Democratic law does not order, "Thou shalt not steal". It says that only certain people have the right to steal -- tax and customs agents. What does "power to the people" mean when the people enjoy fewer rights than their supposed servants?" ... Or: "Liberalism of whatever stripe cannot ground ethics, cannot constitute or legitimate a real res publica. Liberal relativists can raise doubts, but not children. "A state is in its very idea a society," Newman wrote in 1853, "and a society is a collection of many individuals made one by their participation in some common possession, and to the extent of that common possession, the presence of that possession held in common constitutes the life, and the loss of it constitutes the dissolution, of a state." Better yet: "Newman saw that "progressive," secular rationalism was more likely to lead to the anarchy of competitive self-interest than to common moral effort or utilitarian social progress: "The sentiment of the sacredness in institutions fades away, and the measure of truth or expediency is the private judgment of the individual. An endless variety of opinion is the certain though slow result; no overpowering majority of judgments is found to decide what is good and what is bad; political measures become acts of compromise; and at length the common bond of unity in the state consists in nothing really common, but simply in the unanimous wish of each member of it to secure his own interests." Is there a better brief summary of the effects of Western liberalism and libertarianism over the past two centuries? Authority dissolves; but of course will, appetite, and power do not; the traditional res publica, the labor of long ages, wanes; the so-called "liberated self" waxes."
Sip on real theory, stooges, not your tired admitted idiocy
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 15:47:11 (EDT)
My two cents are:
A new cassette tape purported to be from Osama bin Laden urges suicide attacks and calls on Muslims to rise up against Arab governments that support the attack on Iraq. In the audiotape, bin Laden�s supposed voice urges the faithful to attack the governments of Pakistan, Afghanistan, Bahrain, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. Unlike previous such tapes, this one had a single theme � suicide attacks.
snippy's foreign policty--FINALLY BEARING FRUIT!
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 15:16:38 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Yes, but consider--he knows how to spell "chlamydia"! What does that tell you re experience and priorities, hey?
hmmm
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 15:14:17 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Liebral talking points? Geesh, no! It's just some stuff I remember from econ 101. Can't be a good liberal unless you study up a bit on free-market laissez-faire economics, after all!
patriot
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 15:13:39 (EDT)
My two cents are:
laren ot ptye!
Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 15:11:50 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I trust the Sheik. The Brits know what they're doing, and the Sheik will know what he's doing, once the looting is under control. It's Bagtown I worry about.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 15:11:39 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Rumsfeld urges caution on chemical suspicions
By Marian Wilkinson, Herald Correspondent in Washington and agencies
April 9 2003
The United States military said yesterday that fears that five soldiers, who suffered blisters while on duty near the central Iraqi town of Najaf, had been exposed to mustard gas were believed to be a "false alarm".
The clarification came after the Defence Secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, urged caution over reports on discovery of chemical weapons. "We have to recognise that almost all first reports that we get turn out to be wrong", Mr Rumsfeld said .
burble burble rabid rightist fascist bushists
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 15:10:55 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Poor moron Pete hasn't heard that Basra is looting central right about now. No civil authority whatsoever. Except, of course, Pete's Sheik of Araby.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 15:10:04 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Yeah, yeah, ehre come the liebral talking points. Look, dimwit, the Demonrats are done. They will not win 2004. Not at all. You willw aste a lot of breath trying to convince people of things no one beleives any more. Defenders of teh indefensible, are exposed. Theya re marginalized. You tirds have toasted your buns. You are over and out. Done. Stoopid liberal morons.
Pete�
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 15:09:04 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Delusional definition that does not fit. The results of capitalism give you those things, not blind adherence to liberalism as practiced by teh demonrats in America. The true enemies of the good that they think they create. They do not!
Pete�
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 15:07:25 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The US economy is in bad shape for years into the future. Huge deficits limiting capital markets, productive capacity thrown away in the desert instead of producing useable goods, consumer spending limited by effects of harsh labor practices, Republican-style unemployment levels, and concentration of wealth toward the top end of non-producing inheritors, selectively restrictive trade policies, deliberate sabotage of international trade with major European partners... Nothing looks particularly rosy. And you can't really hedge in some of the traditional ways, because Snippy wants to eliminate dividend taxes and gut the bond market. We're screwed if we do and screwed if we don't. It will take at least two Democratic administrations to get this thing running again.
patriot
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 15:07:21 (EDT)
My two cents are:
They already turned over Basrah to a Sheik for local governance. See these liebral traitors naysay at every turn. It defines their treason and M.O. in politics. For them, it is always politics. It is they who make things unreasonably partisan. Traitors.
Pete�
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 15:06:09 (EDT)
My two cents are:
We are "the people." The Big-hearted, bountiful, charitable, free, generous, lavish, magnanimous, munificent, open-handed, philanthropic, unselfish, unstinting,broad-minded ones, anyway.
Liberals
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 15:00:52 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The thinking on Wall Street throughout the war so far had been that once the fighting is over, the U.S. economy would find itself on a straight path to recovery.
Just like in '91?
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 15:00:02 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Posters plastered throughout the city showed Bush's face and warned: "War criminal in Belfast."
Bush did not see the signs because he flew over the city in a helicopter, travelling from a military airbase to Hillsborough Castle for meetings with British Prime Minister Tony Blair and Irish Prime Minister Bertie Ahern.
Former U.S. president Bill Clinton drew a cheering crowd of 6,000 when he spoke in Belfast in December 2000, but Bush did not plan to visit this city scarred by decades of political and religious violence.
Bush was staying at the estate 20 kilometres southwest of Belfast.
Why do the liberal Irish love blow jobs? Glint
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 14:58:37 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Quick definitions (Fascism)
noun: a political theory advocating an authoritarian hierarchical government (as opposed to democracy or liberalism)
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 14:53:23 (EDT)
My two cents are:
U.S. President George W. Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair told a news conference Tuesday in NORTHERN IRELAND that they would hand over rule to Iraqis as soon as possible.
Now, THAT'S satire
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 14:51:54 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Yeah, "patriot" (Not) I imagine you avoided teh chlamydia-inspired SARS episodes in Rio? Every day the demonrats try to throttle truth with their version of events, the more marginalized they become. Like, not literal, loose, licentious. Traits which do not lead to civility, conformity or honesty with mores. But we all know this. Even if the liberals still think people are too dumb to get it. Mind manipulators of the past. exposed. Marginalized. Out of power. Back in the sewers where this slime belongs.
Pete�
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 14:48:45 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I'm beginning to suspect that the Iraqi minister of information is fibbing.
patriot
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 14:47:24 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Baghdad has gates?
doubt it
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 14:46:33 (EDT)
My two cents are:
These new dictionary discoveries are making me feel as though I've been living a lie, Pete. What are we going to do? We can't call them fascists or rubes, because we're the fascists and rubes, and we can't call them socialists, because they're free-market laissez-faire capitalists. Does Rove have any guidance on this? Is there an Open Letter we can consult on the freep? I'm at wit's end!
Glint
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 14:45:23 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"The infidels are committing suicide by the hundreds on the gates of Baghdad," he told reporters gathered on the roof of the ministry of information. "As our leader Saddam Hussein said, 'God is grilling their stomachs in hell.'"
no different than the liberal liars on here
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 14:45:21 (EDT)
My two cents are:
You mean liberal means good, and I've been living in awe and fear of something that never would have hurt me, would only have unselfishly and munificently tolerated me? How did this thing get so screwed up? Why didn't they pick a better demonizing label? WHAT THE H*LL IS WRONG WITH THE VAST RIGHT-WING CONSPIRACY!
Pete�
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 14:42:15 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Pete is back in the game with a stunning riposte to something or other! Welcome back, pineapple! Way to get back up on the horse!
patriot
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 14:38:00 (EDT)
My two cents are:
It's been 568 days since Bush said he'd catch Osama bin Laden 'Dead or Alive!'
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 14:35:57 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Amazingly false, edited, blindered definition of a word that has little if any application to the existing people who claim to be "liberal." In fact, they are dishonest, treasonous, hypocritical, virtueless, Godless, socialsitic, scumbag demonrats. A whole extra nine yeards of horse shit to wade through.
Pete�
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 14:31:18 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Collateral damage got you down, L.G.? You seem sort of... weary.... oddly cynical. It's not like you, L.G. It might help if you shared more with us. Let us take some of the load, let us feel your pain.
Your Friends at Fornigate
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 14:30:47 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Me, that's who. I ,really, am surprised and sorry for the slavering publishers who ponied up the fool's gold in the first place. I thought it was reasonable for them to assume that there would be a legacy left to talk about, beyond that involving blue dresses and ice cubes. But, nooo, it was not to be. The legacy bucket is e-m-p-t-y. Fortunately, the Clintons are so filthy rich now that they can afford to pay the advances back to the slavering publishers, who no doubt will jump at the dough, and let someone else publish the mythical books.
Big-hearted, bountiful, charitable, free, generous, lavish, magnanimous, munificent, open-handed, philanthropic, unselfish, unstinting,broad-minded, etc. liberal.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 14:22:26 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Since this is what most people are watching these days anyway, let's catch up on how the television news networks are faring in week one of Gulf War II.
CNN:
CNN has probably done the best job of exposing the more tragic aspects of this war -- namely the fact that its reporting crew got kicked out of Baghdad over the weekend. The resulting 72 hours of nonstop coverage of the crew's tearful group hugs at the Jordanian border and ceaseless "how did you feel?" line of questioning from Atlanta made me think I had stumbled on an episode of Oprah. The fact that this had suddenly become "the story" in CNN's eyes, even as U.S. and Iraqi soldiers were getting immolated across the border, illustrates the inward focus that has played a primary role in the network's downfall. If "sexy" Paula Zahn doesn't up the ante and start adopting a more aggressive interview style soon (think Sharon Stone in "Basic Instinct"), CNN is pretty much toast.
This Baghdad eviction has left the network in such a state that all it can do when the ratings-boosting pyrotechnics light up the Baghdad skyline is have sexy Wolf Blitzer narrate it from his suite at the Kuwait City Hilton, where the thundering in the background is just room service bringing up some fresh shrimp cocktail. Don't blame Fox News for your misfortunes, CNN -- blame AOL Time Warner. Things fall apart.
MSNBC:
What could be freakier than Lester Holt's botox permagrin as he recites the growing body count from the commander in chief's latest wacky misadventure? Maybe it wasn't botox -- maybe he was born with his mouth frozen like that. Regardless, it's trademark of MSNBC's robotic news delivery, which drones on for long sing-songy stretches only to be eventually shattered by Chris Matthews's hyperactive barking as he gnashes and hurls himself like a crazed Lhasa Apso at the heels of some unsuspecting liberal peacenik lured into the studio with the promise of some free government cheese.
One interesting feature of MSNBC's coverage is the huge map of Iraq laid down on the studio floor like a supermarket advertisement for Empire Flakes. All that's missing is the little toy tanks and planes being pushed around by generals on their hands and knees making zoom-zoom noises. MSNBC does claim frequent contact with an actual Baghdad correspondent, CNN refugee Peter Arnett, but Pete is suspiciously quick to note that he's actually a National Geographic correspondent, ostensibly left behind on a Mesopotamian excursion gone horribly awry.
FOX NEWS:
Like an Iraqi soldier dressed in civilian clothes, Fox News has crept in under the false cover of objectivity to unleash a blitzkrieg of bias so right wing that channel-surfers often mistake it for a eugenics infomercial. The only nod at an actual exchange of ideas is Hannity bitch-slapping the hapless Colmes while slobbering permaguest Bill Bennett slowly undoes his belt buckle in anticipation of giving that liberal f***** his final comeuppance. It's enough the scare the teeth right out of Ann Coulter's vagina.
On Fox News, it's not "Attack on Iraq," it's not "Gulf War II," no, it's "Operation Iraqi Freedom, ANY QUESTIONS, BITCHES?" I'm surprised Dick Cheney doesn't call to tell them to tone it down a bit. Fox News also takes the prize for being "most indignant" that the Iraqis have decided they have nothing to lose by not fighting fair. All I know is that it must drive the audio technicians nuts to keep having to pod down all that goose-stepping in the background. If you work at Fox News, this isn't Gulf War II -- it's Christmas.
AL-JAZEERA:
It's so obviously the Jews. While the Bush administration swims in hypocrisy with virtually every statement it makes, are there any Arabs who recognize that if they just had a news service that countered this with anything approaching objectivity, somebody might take them seriously? After all, this is a television station that still insists all the Jews got out of the World Trade Center before the planes hit despite the fact that this rumor was proven to be your basic email hoax. If email is Al-Jazeera's source du jour, why haven't they reported on the ease with which any man can lengthen his penis two inches? They would surely rule the world within days! Here's the truth: Until the Arab world gets a mouthpiece that generates information that doesn't read like headlines out of the Weekly World News Paranoid Edition, nobody will take their concerns seriously.
ABC, CBS, NBC:
Who gets home in time to watch the news at 5pm every day? The elderly and the unemployed, that's who. The traditional network news operations are so irrelevant it's a wonder the U.S. military still bothers to send them press releases.
THAT SAID, a lot of the failings of the war coverage are shared ones. Whether you're a war supporter or a war protester, there's a lot of information that's been withheld from you like you're a five-year-old, because American news coverage has self-censored itself to the point of irrelevance. We see when the pyrotechnics light up Baghdad, but we haven't seen the POWs, the civilian casualties, or the details of Halliburton's brazen and immediate lunge at the profit pi�ata. We haven't explored the curious absence of any evidence of weapons of mass destruction despite the fact that coalition troops now control large swaths of the country. We haven't explored the increasingly disturbing evidence that George W. Bush has turned over the day to day decision making to a little voice in his head he calls "God." No one asks the hard questions, which is why Donald Rumsfeld can wave the Geneva Conventions in the air with one hand while the other pushes the button to send electricity into the genitals of some innocent Afghani taxi driver rotting away at Guantanamo Bay, and not worry about being challenged by assembled reporters shaking in front of him like raw meat in front of a hungry lion.
This failure of American news coverage has its roots in the 1980s, when the corporatization of America's news media really got underway and professional worriers worried that if the process was allowed to continue, one day we wouldn't have a credible fourth estate when we really needed one. Like now.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 14:20:48 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Haw, them Clintons! They done it again!
G.L.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 14:17:21 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Lynne Cheney-Joe Lieberman Group Puts Out a Blacklist
by Roberto J. Gonzalez
AN aggressive attack on freedom has been launched upon America's college campuses. Its perpetrators seek the elimination of ideas and activities that place Sept. 11 in historical context, or critique the so-called war on terrorism.
The offensive, spearheaded by the American Council of Trustees and Alumni, a Washington-based group, threatens free speech, democratic debate and the integrity of higher education. In an incendiary report, ``Defending Civilization: How Our Universities Are Failing America,'' the American Council claims that ``colleges and university faculty have been the weak link in America's response'' to Sept. 11. It also asserts that ``when a nation's intellectuals are unwilling to defend its civilization, they give comfort to its adversaries.''
The report documents 117 campus incidents as ``evidence'' of anti-Americanism. More than 40 professors are named, including the president of Wesleyan University, who suggested in an open letter that ``disparities and injustices'' in American society and the world can lead to hatred and violence.
Other examples abound. A Yale professor is criticized for saying, ``It is from the desperate, angry and bereaved that these suicide pilots came.'' A professor emeritus from the University of Oregon is listed for recommending that ``we need to understand the reasons behind the terrifying hatred directed against the U.S. and find ways to act that will not foment more hatred for generations to come.''
Dozens more comments, taken out of context and culled from secondary sources, are presented as examples of an unpatriotic academy.
The American Council of Trustees and Alumni was founded in 1995 by Lynne Cheney, the vice president's wife, and Sen. Joseph Lieberman. Its Website claims that it contributed $3.4 billion to colleges and universities last year, making it ``the largest private source of support for higher education.'' Cheney is cited several times in the report, and is reportedly a close associate of its authors, Jerry Martin and Anne Neal.
You want satire? THIS is satire.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 14:15:11 (EDT)
My two cents are:
A CORRESPONDENT with Abu Dhabi TV issued an SOS to humanitarian organisations to rescue a group of journalists who are "surrounded" by warring forces in the satellite channel's Baghdad offices. The correspondent, Shaker Hamed, issued the call for help on Abu Dhabi TV saying that "25 journalists and technicians belonging to Abu Dhabi television and Qatari satellite television channel Al-Jazeera are surrounded in the offices of Abu Dhabi TV in Baghdad".
This MUST be satire, right?
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 13:37:45 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The famously and forever late Clintons have done it again. Seems they are both late with their multimillion dollar books and who, really, is surprised or sorry for the slavering publishers who ponied up the fool's gold in the first place? Seems there's no legacy left to talk about. At least none other than those involving blue dresses and ice cubes.
L.G.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 13:17:05 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Sure Cheney's a looker. But looks aren't everything, you know?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 13:11:53 (EDT)
My two cents are:
When's the parade?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 13:06:42 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Cheney is my ideal man. Because he's solid. He's funny. He's very handsome. He was a football player. People don't think about him as the glamour type because he's a serious person, he wears glasses, he's lost his hair. But he's a very handsome man. And you cannot imagine him losing his temper, which I find extremely sexy. Men who get upset and lose their tempers and claim to be sensitive males: talk about girly boys. No, there's a reason hurricanes are named after women and homosexual men, it's one of our little methods of social control.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 13:06:39 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Bloomberg enacted an anti-hosebag law?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 13:03:36 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The benefits of NYC's new anti-smoking law are already apparent.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 13:00:54 (EDT)
My two cents are:
What does Coulter have against Republican New York mayors?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 12:55:57 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Coulter was born in 1961. John Lindsay was mayor from 1965 to 1973. From the time she was three until she was 12, up there in Connecticut, the liberal bastard was constantly fucking up in Fat City, making her life a nightmare. No wonder she carries such blistered memories.
patriot
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 12:54:20 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Ann's gone? How much more bad news can New York take?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 12:43:47 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Now we see why she's so irritable in airports. Nicotine fit.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 12:39:34 (EDT)
My two cents are:
When Miami goes smoke-free she moves to Cincy, after that it's Othello, Washington, and finally, backed off completely, she'll end up in a cabin somewhere near Carhenge, Nebraska.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 12:38:51 (EDT)
My two cents are:
She bought the old reduced-bar-business argument? This chick is sharp as a tack.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 12:37:03 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Reduced bar business?
doubt it
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 12:34:59 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Go, Ann, go!
NYC
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 12:29:18 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Outta here
CONSERVATIVE pundit Ann Coulter is so upset by Mayor Bloomberg's Tali-ban on smoking, she's moved to Miami. "[Bloomberg] is wrecking New York City and I didn't want to pay for his fascist smoking police . . . Soon he'll be mandating that New Yorkers have a glass of milk and engage in calisthenics every day," Coulter fumed. "He seems to imagine that New Yorkers were drawn to that city for the clean living . . . I'm not sure even [former mayor John] Lindsay could have come up with something so breathtakingly stupid. Reduced bar business means reduced tax revenues means Ann-Pays-More. So I'm gone."
Normally, I don't encourage smoking, but I'll make an exception with Ann
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 12:28:21 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Did he pass her on? From George to Neil? What planet have you been living on?
In the Know
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 11:40:02 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Poppy's been married to the same man for years!
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 11:38:13 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Harris wins. Woman's a horse.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 11:37:36 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I thought Jeb was the one poking Harris. Did he pass her on?
sweet deal
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 11:35:38 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I think that's more of an anal sex contest that the twins are in, there in college. The pissing contest is between Mrs. Neil and Kathleen Harris.
In the Know
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 11:29:41 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Your side may be pissing, but looks like the competition is pussing.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 11:24:54 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"Chelsea earns six figures, and the Clintons are still married...yada yada yada...." The Bushes are still married (both POTUS/FLOTUS pairs) and the twins are in college.
pissing contest
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 11:23:56 (EDT)
My two cents are:
yes, the trolleys that climb half-way to the stars.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 11:21:07 (EDT)
My two cents are:
You hear it on the Golden Gate Bridge, on hippie hill, out in Laurel Heights and St. Francis Wood. In the Inner Mission the Mission and the Outer Mission. In Noe Valley and Nob Hill. And yes, on the trolleys. You hear it on the trolleys.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 11:19:12 (EDT)
My two cents are:
You hear it all the time on the trolleys?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 11:17:37 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Like Rice-a-Roni?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 11:16:35 (EDT)
My two cents are:
There ain't no oil in Afghanistan, asshole. Learn to live with it, traitor.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 11:16:05 (EDT)
My two cents are:
A San Francisco word.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 11:15:27 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Good word, pesky.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 11:14:37 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Always have, the pesky bastards.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 11:14:27 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Bush Loses War in Afghanistan
Taliban reviving structure in Afghanistan
KANDAHAR, Afghanistan (AP) -- Before executing the International Red Cross worker, the Taliban gunmen made a satellite telephone call to their superior for instructions: Kill him?
Kill him, the order came back, and Ricardo Munguia, whose body was found with 20 bullet wounds last month, became the first foreign aid worker to die in Afghanistan since the Taliban's ouster from power 18 months ago.
The manner of his death suggests the Taliban is not only determined to remain a force in this country, but is reorganizing and reviving its command structure.
There is little to stop them. The soldiers and police who were supposed to be the bedrock of a stable postwar Afghanistan have gone unpaid for months and are drifting away.
At a time when the United States is promising a reconstructed democratic postwar Iraq, many Afghans are remembering hearing similar promises not long ago.
Instead, what they see is thieving warlords, murder on the roads, and a resurgence of Taliban vigilantism.
RABID RIGHT--LIES AND FAILURE
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 11:14:12 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The liberal traitors feed on one another.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 11:13:59 (EDT)
My two cents are:
What's the deal with Frisco and "pesky?" First Jon Carroll uses it in his opening sentence, and then this traitor Morford uses it in the opening sentence and again in the same post! What next? Three times? This thing is snowballing. Forget Iraq, the real news is right here.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 11:13:31 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Today's Top Five Headlines on BuzzFlash.com:
Marc Racicot Crossed the Line and Ought to Apologize to John Kerry
Civilian Area Gets Blown Up in U.S. Effort to Kill Saddam. Article Says Saddam Thought They Wouldn't Bomb Him in a Civilian Area, But Bush, Of Course, Proved Him Wrong. Way to Go, George! You're A Tough Chickenhawk in your $5,000 Suits and $1,000 Shoes!
Hospitals in Iraq Overwhelmed by Living and Dead Civilians
Baghdad doctors overwhelmed by arrival of 100 patients an hour 4/8
Oakland Police Open Fire On Protesters, Longshoremen 4/8
Racicot--that's a french name--string him up?
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 11:10:53 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Good one, In Country. Hyuck, hyuck!
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 10:58:36 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Saddam's doctor called a meeting of all the Saddam body doubles.
"Men, I've got some good news and I've got some bad news!
The good news is that Saddam is still alive.
The bad news is that he's lost an arm".
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 10:52:13 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Everybody wants my rear side.
Pete�
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 10:25:09 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Who Cares About Dead Iraqis?
Body counts, Rummy's plan, and the grisly stuff they don't want you to see
By Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist Friday, April 4, 2003
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Dang that pesky collateral damage. Darn those brutal civilian deaths. Hundreds and hundreds of 'em, bloody decapitated mutilated bombed-out burned-out women and children and families, over there in Iraq.
Just another irritating little side effect, doncha know, of forcibly liberating a people who didn't really ask to be liberated and who are pretty much getting reamed from both ends and aren't exactly rushing out into the streets by the grateful thousands, as we had expected (except, finally, some in Najaf -- whew!) to toss flowers at the wide-eyed and confused U.S. troops and our well-armed Christian God and His almighty Starbucks franchises.
What happened there, anyway? Just bad PR? Someone miss a memo? Did no one tell them we are the Great Liberator, the bringer of peace and calm and nice big oil conglomerates that will soon help them "manage" all their hundreds of billions' worth of delicious natural resources? Haven't they seen the joy and happiness we have brought to Afghanistan? Oh wait.
Please believe it's not happening. Please ignore the actual data, the brutality, focus instead on the patriotism and the soothing sound of the war drum and the idea of liberation, as opposed to, you know, invasion. We don't want you to see. We don't want you to know. And we certainly don't want to make it easy for you to find out.
The U.S. military doesn't even "do" body counts. They actually said as much. Don't keep track of those dang dead civilians. We've got a repressed Islamic rubble-strewn nation to annihilate, they say, and a puppet government to forcibly install afterward and a whole hell of a lot of petrochemical companies lining up. We're a little busy.
And we've got lots and lots of sturdy and young and mostly poor mostly patriotically deluded U.S. troops to put in harm's way in the name of power and oil and Rummy's black-eyed sneer, many of our own troops dying from our own brilliantly termed "friendly fire," and what, you think we have time to keep track of how many foreigners we sort of accidentally blow up? Please.
Hell, a few dozen families, especially mothers and children, get themselves decapitated by a U.S. missile striking a civilian market -- hey, that's not our fault, is it?
After all, if Saddam hadn't been so downright evil in the first place, we wouldn't have to be invading his country and blowing up everything and killing children in the name of freeing them, and none of this would've happened, now would it? Beautiful is the logic of the Great Liberator. All hail.
Except that yes, it would have happened anyway, somehow, some way, because Dick and Rummy and Wolfie and about a dozen other ultra-conservative power-mad hawks had been planning and begging for this war for years. Yes, years. Before ShrubCo. Before 9/11. Before WMDs and Dick's defibrillator and Shrub embarrassing and humiliating this nation on a global scale, daily.
They had a plot all along. Oh yes they did. Overthrowing Iraq was to be merely the first step to forcibly restructuring the entire Middle East in the image of the U.S. and its corporate power interests. Their motto: First Iraq, then total power gluttony and empire expansion and big-ass cigars for everyone. More or less.
Way back in 1997, Dickie and Rummy and friends got together and drew up a vile little plan, called it the Project for the New American Century, and it included lots of info about nailing Saddam and reshaping the Middle East, along with a few other pesky countries, for good measure. According to ABC News, 18 neo-conservatives signed on to the plan. Ten of them are now in Bush's Cabinet.
And the plan was ugly and violent and military thick and war happy and it only needed a catalyst to kick it into gear, which 9/11 awkwardly provided, and a president other than too-smart Clinton to give it the smirking thumbs-up. And, lo and behold, BushCo illegally steals the presidency, and, boom -- here we are. Empire expanding, Iraqis dying. Neat! We are on plan.
making more corpse pix for gliton
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 10:14:53 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 10:13:31 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Snippy needs perpetual war to coverup his perpetual destruction of the US economy and oh our whole standard of living.
yep--keep them cannons rollin
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 10:09:45 (EDT)
My two cents are:
If you were to spin the globe and look for real estate critical to building an American empire, your first stop would have to be the Persian Gulf. The desert sands of this region hold two of every three barrels of oil in the world -- Iraq's reserves alone are equal, by some estimates, to those of Russia, the United States, China, and Mexico combined. For the past 30 years, the Gulf has been in the crosshairs of an influential group of Washington foreign-policy strategists, who believe that in order to ensure its global dominance, the United States must seize control of the region and its oil. Born during the energy crisis of the 1970s and refined since then by a generation of policymakers, this approach is finding its boldest expression yet in the Bush administration -- which, with its plan to invade Iraq and install a regime beholden to Washington, has moved closer than any of its predecessors to transforming the Gulf into an American protectorate.
Huzzah! Huzzah! I've killed the Devil!" shrieks Punch in his final triumph
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 03:10:58 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Eisenhower's old man probably never got past buck private.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 00:15:00 (EDT)
My two cents are:
We've got to find a nice border state for Neil and get him to settle down in a governorship. Boy's too wild. Too impatient for the main chance. He should relax and let it come to him, like the rest of the boys.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 00:13:44 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Johnson was way the hell over 126, too. Fucker was smart. I think that IQ list is a bunch of bullshit. Also, I've always had a sneaking suspicion that Eisenhower was way smarter than he pretended to be. He had Pete's hero, MacArthur figured out, anyway. Served as his chief of staff when he was king of the Phillipines and came away convinced he was a stone asshole. Of course, Pete, who has taken college courses on these matters, and who has made a hobby of it, and whose father was a Lt. Cmdr., probably knows more than Eisenhower did about it.
patriot
- Tuesday, April 08, 2003 at 00:12:00 (EDT)
My two cents are:
No way Bush has an IQ of 91!
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 23:06:30 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Another sweet deal for Sweet Deal Neil Bush?
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 22:48:52 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Wrong, Brad. This is oil-patch building. Fuck nations.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 22:46:57 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Kathleen Harris taught me love. She taught me that God is orgasm and orgasm is god. My only regret is the wasted time, the years I ignored Snippy and Jeb telling me to scoff that high society clam-dip....
Neil
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 22:45:36 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I voted for Bush because he said he WASN'T in favor on nation building. I'm sorely disappointed!
Brad
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 22:42:24 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Right before Korea.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 22:40:43 (EDT)
My two cents are:
We'll get to Osama later.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 22:39:44 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The broader the confrontation, the better.
Snippy
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 22:38:56 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"Shortly after Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld issued a stark warning to Iran and Syria last week, declaring that any 'hostile acts' they committed on behalf of Iraq might prompt severe consequences, one of President Bush's closest aides stepped into the Oval Office to warn him that his unpredictable defense secretary had just raised the specter of a broader confrontation. Mr. Bush smiled a moment at the latest example of Mr. Rumsfeld's brazenness, recalled the aide. Then he said one word - 'Good' - and went back to work."
took him a while to think up a one syllable word
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 22:34:47 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Pete, no direspect, but aren't you out of your fucking mind? I mean, really.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 22:32:47 (EDT)
My two cents are:
hid me with your best shot?
tePe
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 22:30:33 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"Half a story, half a lie, Fox ignores that people die"
Posted Sunday, April 6, 2003 by vgdesign
By ADRIEN HAMPTON,
Fox News, the conservative broadcast empire known most recently for strong pro-U.S. color in reporting on the Iraq war, is the latest target of antiwar media critics.
Playing their own game of sensationalism, activists Thursday stripped off their undergarments (worn over street clothes) to deliver "pink slips" for Fox employees Bill O'Reilly, Geraldo Rivera and Oliver North. Protesters from Global Exchange, Code Pink and Media Alliance, about threescore strong, also tried to gift Fox with the Society for Professional Journalists code of ethics and a textbook on reporting.
When Fox employees at Battery and Vallejo streets failed to come down from their offices, the activists moved across the street to shout down the local NBC affiliate for firing reporter Peter Arnett. MSNBC first defended Arnett for criticizing the U.S. war plan on Iraqi state TV, then fired him after a media storm of criticism led by Fox. Entertainment show "Extra" played on a bank of six TVs while demonstrators chanted and waved signs of wounded Iraqi civilians.
While protesters at Fox chanted "Half a story, half a lie, Fox ignores that people die" they held up signs like "Jingo-TV,"
moron tv
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 22:29:02 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"Half a story, half a lie, Fox ignores that people die"
Posted Sunday, April 6, 2003 by vgdesign
By ADRIEN HAMPTON,
Fox News, the conservative broadcast empire known most recently for strong pro-U.S. color in reporting on the Iraq war, is the latest target of antiwar media critics.
Playing their own game of sensationalism, activists Thursday stripped off their undergarments (worn over street clothes) to deliver "pink slips" for Fox employees Bill O'Reilly, Geraldo Rivera and Oliver North. Protesters from Global Exchange, Code Pink and Media Alliance, about threescore strong, also tried to gift Fox with the Society for Professional Journalists code of ethics and a textbook on reporting.
When Fox employees at Battery and Vallejo streets failed to come down from their offices, the activists moved across the street to shout down the local NBC affiliate for firing reporter Peter Arnett. MSNBC first defended Arnett for criticizing the U.S. war plan on Iraqi state TV, then fired him after a media storm of criticism led by Fox. Entertainment show "Extra" played on a bank of six TVs while demonstrators chanted and waved signs of wounded Iraqi civilians.
While protesters at Fox chanted "Half a story, half a lie, Fox ignores that people die" they held up signs like "Jingo-TV,"
moron tv
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 22:28:59 (EDT)
My two cents are:
So, where exactly is that minx, Kathleen Harris?
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 22:28:55 (EDT)
My two cents are:
All he ever was was rear side. Now he's nothing.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 22:28:20 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Ok, you liberals. Tell him where you hid it.
are we playing I spy?
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 22:03:48 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Watch your rear side, Pete! Oops, too late!
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 21:58:05 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Neil Bush�s shocking divorce --
Neil Bush and his wife, Sharon, are headed to divorce court, and a source says their lawyers are frantically working for a last-minute settlement.
The president�s brother is splitting from his wife of 23 years � there have been published reports that he has a replacement lover waiting in the wings � and a trial date has been set for mid-April in a Houston court, says a source familiar with the case.
�This thing could get really ugly,� says the insider.�We�re hoping that it will all get settled out of court. The last thing we want now is for the Bush family to be airing its dirty laundry.�
bush family values--drugs, sex, no rock n roll <meanwhile Chelsea earns six figures, and the Clintons are still married, oh and Americans are nostalgic for Clintonian peace and prosperity and Hillary's a senator from NY>
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 21:56:48 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Liberal tactics being what they may.
how true
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 21:51:51 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Okay, give him back his rear side, you cowards!
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 21:47:50 (EDT)
My two cents are:
the man's been in country too long.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 21:47:12 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Nothing more to prove. Try to hid his rear side, will you!
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 21:46:23 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Why are we wasting money on "Hi!" magazine for the 20% of the world's population we have to kill?
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 21:45:03 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Yes, liberal tactics being what they may, some of you cowards may try to hid my rear side, but the usual retort with the truth makes them scurry and hide in their hideous sewers pretty quickly. Treasonous slime. They know they are losers. Nothing more to prove. Out.
Pete�
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 21:43:54 (EDT)
My two cents are:
It appears that after this pesky war is over, the State Department will start publishing a magazine about American culture to be distributed in Arab countries. The name of the magazine is Hi.
I dunno. I've traveled in Egypt and Dubai and Oman and Muslim northern Nigeria, and they just weren't "hi" kinds of places. They were "you are very welcome in my home" kinds of places, and "you must pay the double because-it- is-Wednesday fee" kinds of places, and even "once again you have misunderstood everything, but please have some flat bread" kinds of places.
But not "Hi!"
Editing Hi is going to be something of a tightrope act. Even though it's going to be a "newsstand, lifestyle, consumer magazine," according to Richard Creighton, one of the publishers, the magazine is going to be distributed in 22 Arab countries, each of which has different laws, customs and levels of tolerance about, let's see, lifestyle issues.
Hi sounds a little jaunty under the circumstances. It's like, "Yes, we sent our myrmidons into Iraq to engage in house-to-house fighting, but now we'd like to tell you how to redecorate those houses." Or: "We vetoed lots of U.N. resolutions supporting the Palestinians against Israel and then whined when France threatened to veto one, count them, one of our resolutions, but how about that Chuck Berry, huh?"
From cluster bombs to cocooning -- not even the folks at Sunset could bring that off.
Still, one must press on. One must offer advice. So we've been having a little spitballing session to come up with story ideas for the first issue. When I say "we," I mean I and my household appliances.
Probably Hi should exploit to some extent the well-known American openness about sexual topics. I'm thinking something like "Everything you should know about 'girl parts' -- this month, the ankle." Candid, yet tasteful.
Since the United States has 86.5 percent of the world's celebrity reserves, Hi should be sure to mention as many of them as possible. Sample articles might include "Paul Newman: He really likes the Arabs" and "Ben Stiller: He's not Ben Affleck, he's the other one" and "Britney Spears: She really is a virgin; she just dresses that way to sell records."
Follow-up articles might include "Why Americans dress that way just to sell records."
Another important mission for Hi would be to correct common misperceptions about America. Maybe the first issue could have a cover story called "We're Not Really Suing Each Other All the Time," complete with interviews of 10 typical Americans who have never sued anyone or been sued and who don't dress that way.
Even though Hi is not a serious magazine, there are intellectual issues that do affect lifestyle choices. Hi could try advocacy ("Graven images: They're really not that bad"), but the best bet is a softer, live-and-let-live approach: "We don't take our shoes off inside the house and you do, and isn't it a funny world?"
I'm looking at two standing features here: "It's not about the oil," a monthly list of reasons for everything that don't involve petroleum products, and "Omar Sharif on Bridge." Yeah, he's old, but we need him.
It will be interesting to see how the staff for Hi is hired. Usually, when a big publisher starts a publication, he just hires six tosspot Australians and lets them loose on an unsuspecting nation. Clearly, though, "Mother Eats Baby on Bus" is not a headline that will fly in a State Department publication.
I think the staff should be drawn from our largest pool of modest, chaste and energetic workers: Christian youth. Sure, the editor might have to be on guard for the occasional "We're not going to hell" editorial, but all in all it's a pretty good match. Perfect first-issue feature: "Everyone likes Abraham! "
Jon Carroll, traitor
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 21:31:36 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Kerry Defends Right to Criticize Bush
April 7, 2003 04:11 PM EDT
CEDAR RAPIDS, Iowa - Presidential candidate John Kerry said Monday that democracy affords rival Democrats the right to criticize President Bush even with the nation at war.
The Massachusetts senator has come under a withering attack from Republicans for suggesting that the United States, like Iraq, needs a regime change. Traveling through Iowa, Kerry rejected what he called "phony arguments" from the GOP that political candidates should mute their criticism of the commander in chief.
"This is a democracy," Kerry said. "We could be at war a year from now. Would we put the election on hold?"
Kerry voted last fall for a congressional resolution granting Bush the authority to use military force to oust Saddam Hussein and disarm Iraq, but he has been sharply critical of the Bush administration's diplomatic efforts to assemble a coalition of allies. Last week, Kerry's regime change comment drew fire from top congressional Republicans who said the remarks were highly inappropriate with U.S. troops fighting overseas.
Since then, Kerry, a decorated Vietnam War veteran, has defended himself, arguing that unlike his Republican critics, he fought for his right to speak freely. At an elementary school in Iowa, he reminded his listeners of that past conflict and the political dynamic.
"We had an election in the middle of the Vietnam War," Kerry said. "It was the center of that election."
The lawmaker argued that the disparate views of Democrats should be central to the 2004 election, including where the candidates' stand on how the war is being conducted.
"Let's not have a lot of phony arguments here about what we can and can't talk about," Kerry said. "We need to talk in America about the things that make us strong as a country."
Despite his attempt to focus on education, Kerry repeatedly was asked about the U.S.-led war against Iraq and his recent comments. Besides the school visit, Kerry has been meeting with small groups of activists during his three-day trip to the site of the leadoff presidential caucuses.
Kerry impressed some listeners, including Susan Lagos, an elementary school principal who has a son in the Army. Lagos wasn't ready to endorse a candidate, but she pointed out, "we teach nonviolence here."
traitor
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 21:27:16 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Geesh, you guys, what's this win and lose thing all about? In a gunfight, the side with the tanks wins, there isn't any doubt about that and I never heard anyone suggest that there was. The unanswered question is and has been what happens after. Do you get a free-fire zone like in Afghanistan, or do you get an intifada or does everyone just sit back and relax and do the right thing and become American? I'm not sure you guys are particularly well-equipped to figure out what might happen outside of Nebrasky or the pineapple patch, although Pete came awful dang close with his call on the threat from the South American terror universities. If it makes you feel any better, nobody is supposed to win right away in an endless War on Terror. Let's keep an eye on this situation and see what develops, eh? Magnanimous in victory, eh, kids? Let's wear our laurels with couth and aplomb, and not do the Ted Nugent Victory Dance just yet.
patriot
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 21:15:05 (EDT)
My two cents are:
�We don�t do body counts�
General Tommy Franks, US Central Command
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 21:08:02 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Yeah, Pete, it's just like even if the senate lets Clinton skate and the court chucks the frivolous lawsuit he still lost because the Arkansas Bar said he wasn't up to Arkansas standards! We win no matter what!
Glint
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 21:06:28 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Glint, it all sounds familar.
Pete�
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 20:42:15 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Of the 108 coalition troops reported dead in Iraq as of midday Monday, 53 had been killed in action, according to military reports. Of the remaining 55, helicopter accidents had killed 28 and 14 others died in land accidents
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 20:40:50 (EDT)
My two cents are:
That's where their yaking points cum from. The info minister. If we lose, it's a bad thing. But if we win it's worse, according to the Liberal agenda, Pete. (01)
Glint
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 20:27:59 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Actually, faux patriot, the Iraqi Information Director sounds like the usual socialist demonrat. No wonder you people listen to such fools.
Pete�
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 20:20:27 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Where is that liberal who keeps asking what success is? Success is being able to go into someone else's country and kill people!
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 20:12:05 (EDT)
My two cents are:
When do we start converting them to Christianity?
Ann
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 20:10:43 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Feels good to have your boys kill a lot of people.
how sweet it is!
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 20:09:47 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Thing about Somalia, around a couple thousand Somalians died in that one fight for the down helicopter to go along with the 18 GI's. Low because the delta force didn't have armor, had to restrict defence to heavy machine guns and grenade launchers. Just think how much better collateral damage you get with APC's and tanks!
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 20:07:09 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"Arab rage fuelled by images of humiliation and despair"
THE sight of American troops storming Saddam Hussein�s presidential palaces yesterday has crushed Arab hopes that coalition forces would become embroiled in a bloody war of attrition in Iraq.
The imminent downfall of Saddam�s regime and virtual collapse of Iraqi resistance is likely to fuel the Arab sense of despair, rage and humiliation at the US-led invasion of a �brotherly� Arab country and raises the spectre of increased Islamic militancy.
Arabic television stations gave prominent coverage yesterday morning to the scenes of US armoured vehicles trundling through central Baghdad and soldiers wandering into Saddam�s palaces. Pictures of Iraqi Fedayin discarding their black uniforms and fleeing from the advancing American forces were also shown...
how sweet it is!
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 20:04:19 (EDT)
My two cents are:
No empire-building under Clinton? No wars to grab oil? No "preemptive" attacks? No tar-baby?
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 20:02:11 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Oh, I'm sorry. So no U.S. soldiers died in Somalia? Then it's true, there was not a single combat death under Bill Clinton.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 20:01:31 (EDT)
My two cents are:
???
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- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 19:50:53 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"...Not a single combat death [under Clinton]. - Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 23:27:50 (EDT)
yes, somalia was a cake walk with all customary protections in place
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 19:45:46 (EDT)
My two cents are:
We could go to the dictionary, except that the dictionaries all have treasonous definitions now. Why adopt a treasonous orthography? Maybe oppulent is the way a true American with mettle spells it.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 19:44:51 (EDT)
My two cents are:
What would we do without Captain Spell Checker???
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 19:24:00 (EDT)
My two cents are:
According to the brochures, more students have flunked out of Akron Bible than have flunked into it.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 19:17:12 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Don't let Po bring home any of them "urban" dudes. They steal.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 19:15:04 (EDT)
My two cents are:
When George Bush went to Congress to ask for $65.6 billion for the war, he earmarked $2.4bn for aid and reconstruction, with $17bn for other post-war costs. According to Pratap Chatterjee, of California-based CorpWatch, Halliburton subsidiary KBR still stands to make a killing. 'The main money is not in reconstruction; the main money is in supporting the troops. Whoever gets that money will be running all the bases for an army that is not going to leave. Around 80 per cent of the budget goes to the military, and the rest on reconstruction.'
The US garrison in Iraq will dwarf that in Afghanistan. In December 2001, KBR secured a 10-year contract from the Pentagon that enables it to run military related projects anywhere in the world, for a guaranteed profit. So far, KBR has netted $830m from the program.
sort of makes ya proud to be a Republican
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 19:11:07 (EDT)
My two cents are:
BABS ON BODY BAGS:
"WHY SHOULD I WASTE
MY BEAUTIFUL MIND?"
PREFERS MIND REMAIN UNDISTURBED BY REPORTS
OF YOUNG AMERICANS SENT TO VIOLENT AND
UNNECESSARY DEATHS BY ILLEGITIMATE SON
Jimmy Breslin:
The following is from an immensely interesting transcript of Barbara Bush on an ABC-TV morning show. She was asked if she and her husband, the former president, watch television...
"[W]hy should we hear about body bags and deaths and how many, what day it's going to happen, and how many this or what do you suppose? Oh, I mean, it's, not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?"
Is that more of that celebrated Babs Bush wit?
Are there any fully formed humans in that twisted, disgraced family?
Don't you worry, Babs. Your squatter spawn will make sure none of the American people are able to see his handiwork in Iraq. Additional unjustified, unprovoked, and immoral forays into other countries depend on it.
Military actions that, like the Iraq invasion, will be based on forged documents, endlessly repeated lies, and specious connections to 9/11 and will be promoted by failed, ratings-hungry national media. Actions that will undermine the security of the American people, kill many more US servicemen, and further wreck the US economy, but will be undertaken in hopes that perpetual war against swarthy populations will result in an electoral victory for this disastrous regime.
no beatiful mind there, Babsie
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 19:09:13 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Poe just accepted by Akron Bible College!
Glint (01)
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 19:06:26 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Opulent.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 19:04:44 (EDT)
My two cents are:
91. Yeah, but that was counting the ten points he got with Affirmative Action.
Dirty Bush--legacy lunkhead
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 19:04:31 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Pictures of interior of one of Saddam's palaces . Wow, almost as oppulant as the furnishings on TBN religious program.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 18:56:25 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Fearful that they were being attacked by suicide bombers, the Marines shot to immobilise the vehicles. Result? Besides Omar's father and mother, two of his sisters, one brother and an uncle were killed when the bus and truck in which they were travelling were punctured by gunfire. The children were aged three, six and 10.
Aleya, Omar's aunt, walked barefoot through shattered windscreen glass yesterday and climbed into the cab of the truck, which was being repaired to make it roadworthy. She was close to hysterics and past caring about minor physical pain. 'People cry for one dead person. Who am I going to cry for?', she screamed through her weeping.
Omar held up his clothes, dyed a hideous purple-brown colour with the blood in the night. His features kept twisting into the face of the about- to-cry. At one point he scampered to the edge of the road to lift the blanket over the face of his father before the Marines led him away.
In the end the corpses, including one the Marines had begun to bury, were carried by the Iraqis and the Marines to the back of the truck for the family to take away and inter. When Aleya went with a medic to change the dressing on the badly shot-up face of Omar's baby brother, Ali, she confided that she had seen one of the Marines weep in sympathy at the family's grief.
Kick that wuss out of my Marine Corps
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 18:51:28 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Spanish Fly?
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 18:07:38 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Can they still go Greek?
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 18:00:40 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I've forbidden my daughters to French kiss.
Glint
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 18:00:21 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I've done it. I've taken the vow, and will never eat another Belgian waffle.
Daughter of America
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 17:59:15 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Why not bring one of the negroes to the deck-staining? You could have pork chops and turnips for dinner to make him feel at home. Got to watch him like a hawk, though, on the job, because a lot of them big bucks are lazy.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 17:54:52 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Glit left his daughter with Negroes? Scratch one cherry.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 17:52:23 (EDT)
My two cents are:
How is he going to commit suicide? Slash his ankles?
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 17:51:00 (EDT)
My two cents are:
WASHINGTON --In a report published Monday, the Lovenstein Institute of Scranton, Pennsylvania detailed its findings of a four month study of the intelligence quotient of President George W. Bush. Since 1973, the Lovenstein Institute has published its research to the education community on each new president, which includes the famous "IQ" report among others.
According to statements in the report, there have been twelve presidents over the past 50 years, from F. D. Roosevelt to G. W. Bush who were all rated based on scholarly achievements, writings that they alone produced without aid of staff, their ability to speak with clarity, and several other psychological factors which were then scored in the Swanson/Crain system of intelligence ranking. The study determined the following IQs of each president as accurate to within five percentage points:
147 Franklin D. Roosevelt (D)
132 Harry Truman (D)
122 Dwight D. Eisenhower (R)
174 John F. Kennedy (D)
126 Lyndon B. Johnson (D)
155 Richard M. Nixon (R)
121 Gerald Ford (R)
175 James E. Carter (D)
105 Ronald Reagan (R)
98 George H. W. Bush (R)
182 William J. Clinton (D)
91 George W. Bush (R)
The six Republican presidents of the past 50 years had an average IQ of 115.5, with President Nixon having the highest IQ, at 155. President G. W. Bush was rated the lowest of all the Republicans with an IQ of 91.
The six Democrat presidents had IQs with an average of 156, with President Clinton having the highest IQ, at 182. President Lyndon B. Johnson was rated the lowest of all the Democrats with an IQ of 126.
No president other than Carter (D) has released his actual IQ, 176. Among comments made concerning the specific testing of President GW Bush, his low ratings were due to his apparent difficulty to command the English language in public statements, his limited use of vocabulary (6,500 words for Bush versus an average of 11,000 words for other presidents), his lack of scholarly achievements other than a basic MBA, and an absence of any body of work which could be studied on an intellectual basis.
The complete report documents the methods and procedures used to arrive at these ratings, including depth of sentence structure and voice stress confidence analysis. "All the Presidents prior to George W. Bush had a least one book under their belt, and most had written several white papers during their education or early careers..
Not so with President Bush," Dr. Lovenstein said. "He has no published works or writings, so in many ways that made it more difficult to arrive at an assessment. We had to rely more heavily on transcripts of his unscripted public speaking."
say it ain't so
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 17:48:21 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Well, power washed the deck. Now it's time to think about a new stain/sealer coating. We have a family tradition for this bi-annual event in which the boy friends get invited to dinner and I hand them each a paint brush and a bucket of sealer. The boys never turn down an opportunity for free food and a chance to watch the girls "work on their tans." It's the mid-western "Tom Sawyer" in me that makes me do it, I reckon. The girls are resigned to it and see it as an obligation to the family that requires their support. The only problem is that Poe is between boy friends. She knew this was going to be a problem when she saw me outside using the power washer. She has a date to the prom - a boy from her church choir. THey're just friends. She approached when I was putting the washer away and asked if it would be o.k. to invite her prom date for "dinner." I said that would be very helpful. She should tell him that dinner at the house will be informal and that he shouldn't feel that he needs to dress up. In fact he should probably wear something that he wouldn't mind getting stains on. Or paint. He should also plan to arrive at the house just as soon as he's finished eating lunch. Sure, the boy friends never hang around long after that, but that's one of the side benefits. (01)
Glint
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 17:34:53 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Took a daughter to one of those overnight college visits. This invitation was for something or other sort of "cultural diversity" event. I could tell she was nervous when we parked because she was babbling. It wasn't her idea. Her mother had signed her up for it. She didn't want to be there. I told her not to worry and walked her in. When we stepped into the lobby it was obvious that the culture they meant was urban. She turned and gave me this look, smiling lips and fearful eyes, that said without words, "See, I told you I shouldn't be here but It's too late to say anything out loud but look you've got me into, oh and by the way I hate you!" At that moment I could only shove her forward by the shoulders. But deep in my heart I wanted to tell her, "Look, make the best of things. Who knows, you just might have fun. Sure, the talk will probably turn to culture and current events, but just remember if they get on some Liberal trip about Iraq you should focus on supporting our president. You might remind them about some of the important people involved like Powell and Rice. If things get to the point where appeasement or placation is required just tell them that your dad voted for Alan Keyes in the last election." Any way, they all gathered around her and seemed to be trying to make her feel welcome. So I slipped out a side door. - Monday, April 07, 2003 at 17:21:09 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Any traitors here have French doors?
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 17:10:17 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Ali Ismaeel Abbas' very first "blow job."
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 17:07:51 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Why would pesticide be delivered in the tip of a rocket's warhead? Must be some awfully big cockroaches those missiles are aimed at.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 17:06:21 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"Can you help get my arms back? Do you think the doctors can get me another pair of hands?" Abbas asked. "If I don't get a pair of hands I will commit suicide," he said with tears spilling down his cheeks.
Ali Ismaeel Abbas, 12, was fast asleep when war shattered his life. A missile obliterated his home and most of his family, leaving him orphaned, badly burned and blowing off both his arms.
just another little collateral insect
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 17:05:50 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Oakland police fired rubber bullets and wooden pellets on Monday to disperse hundreds of anti-war protesters in what was believed to be the first such use against U.S. protesters since the American-led war on Iraq began.
try lead next time
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 17:02:03 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Now the liberal media are saying that the sarin turns out to be a pesticide! Right, I suppose there are a lot of "insects" in the desert. Will the liberals stop at nothing?
patriot
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 17:01:41 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Don't say anything against Rummy. Man's on a roll. Just about got Snippy a tar baby all his own.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 16:17:53 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Sarin? That's the stuff the religious nuts released in the Tokyo subway. Must be pretty hard to get. Killed some people, made a lot more sick. I'll take a 500-lb HE bomb every time.
HE? Whazzat?
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 16:16:53 (EDT)
My two cents are:
How can one not appreciate Rumdum bitchin' about any country that would supply Saddam with WMD? Did soldiers suffer from WMD or heat rash?
questions, questions
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 15:32:32 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Gas? Saddam had gas?
!
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 14:59:20 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 14:55:08 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Faux news is salivating. WMD have been found near Karbala?
a cautionary tale
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 14:48:40 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The U.S. and France share many trade similarities, particularly theirglobal standing as the world's top 2 exporters in 3 very important sectors:defense products, agricultural goods, and services. Franco-American trade is also remarkable for its symmetry, as 6 of the top 10 exports are thesame each way. France has the fourth largest economy in the world afterthe U.S., Japan and Germany. France is the second largest exporter of agriculturalproducts in the world after the U.S. In recent years, the U.S. has beenthe largest direct investor in France and France has been one of the threelargest investors in the U.S. French companies employ over 400,000 Americans.France is the third largest destination of foreign investments in the world.Overall, the French export more per capita than the Japanese and more than twice as much as the Americans. France is overall, the fourth largest exporting nation of the world. France is the world's leader in the production ofluxury goods. More tourists visit France than any other country in the world.
Froggie
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 14:47:03 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Chemicals? Invade France, find those chemicals, show them what happens to dissenters.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 14:36:15 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I covered my French clay tennis court with good American asphalt.
Pancho
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 14:35:36 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Principal French exports to the United States are aircraft and engines, beverages, electrical equipment, chemicals, cosmetics, and luxury products. France is the ninth-largest trading partner of the U.S.
Froggie
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 14:31:49 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I discarded the mayonnaise and the hollandaise and the bouillabaise. Changed the name of vol-au-vent to fly-in-the-wind.
patriot
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 14:22:42 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I chucked out all the poupon mustard.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 14:20:08 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I threw away my Tickle Me Elmo.
Hewdie
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 14:19:00 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Got rid of my French poodle.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 14:18:26 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I threw away all my French ticklers.
Grace
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 14:04:13 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I poured out all my French beer.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 12:07:45 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Wait a minute... OPEC has done a great job of keeping oil prices up. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Texas Oil Pumpers
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 10:42:21 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I took the Michelin tires off the jeep and hurled them into the land-fill.
Not big-hearted, bountiful, charitable, free, generous, lavish, magnanimous, munificent, open-handed, philanthropic, unselfish, unstinting,broad-minded, etc.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 10:41:00 (EDT)
My two cents are:
We can just have Halliburton join for us.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 10:38:01 (EDT)
My two cents are:
We'll OWWWNNNN OPEC. OPEC will be out bitch.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 10:37:37 (EDT)
My two cents are:
When we start the oil pumping again, are we going to have to join OPEC?
patriot
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 10:36:02 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Bush suffeer crazy.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 10:23:55 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Bush suffeer no crazy. Clinton win cold war, make easy for Bush, liberate Iraq. Iraq now free, peace, oil. You watch, is no joking.
Bulgario-lithuanian
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 10:21:55 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Europe is old. The whole thing. Old. Wise.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 10:17:19 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Old Europe, I presume.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 10:13:11 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Bush suffers still psychosis of a fear for Sovjet nuclear attack . His father was working for CIA to destroy Sovjet
system. This fear was the base of success of republican
party. Becase USSR is dead, there is need for another
object as replacement for the hatred and fear. Terrorists, which are criminals gave him(and for anyone whose mental health is dependent of hatred and fear) this gift of sept.11. to fill the vacuum.
This leads to liberation of Iraqi people. But it is not to
blur the fact that POTUS should be in mental treatment instead of being in office.
European
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 08:04:36 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Great. Now you guys are wide open. Pete is going to come in and rip up the pea patch. Maybe even Glit, although it appears that lately he's too gloomed out buy your wanting Marines to die to display his more vicious nature.
Not big-hearted, bountiful, charitable, free, generous, lavish, magnanimous, munificent, open-handed, philanthropic, unselfish, unstinting,broad-minded, etc/
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 07:00:07 (EDT)
My two cents are:
When the Supreme Court hands you the presidency.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 00:49:25 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Define victory.
Anonymous.
- Monday, April 07, 2003 at 00:12:15 (EDT)
My two cents are:
War news is reported the same way that traffic news is. There are vehicles, they are going someplace, in certain areas the route is clear and in others it is obstructed. Phrases like "heavy fire" are placeholders like "jack-knifed tractor trailer"; but so far the media has not told us anything about bodies, Iraqi or American, in piles, any more than the traffic report on the evening news shows us the bodies of dead drivers.Yet it could be argued that this is exactly what wars are about-- bodies, civilian and uniformed, lying in heaps. A press which reports the traffic--tanks moving around Basra, Apache helicopters overflying the environs of Baghdad--but refuses to report on bodies in piles is not an independent media, but more of a crooning baby, embedded in a tangle of warm quilts.
sanitized news
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 23:39:05 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Has the war used up enough blood and money yet?
war and poverty <I recall with happiness the Clinton years of peace--and prosperity.>
Not a single combat death., - Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 23:27:50 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Our president is even dumber than his foreign policy and his domestic policy. Put together.
how stupid is too stupid, you invasion lemming?
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 23:26:28 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Never trust someone who only uses one side of the mouth when speaking. With Cheney it's only his left side that moves.
rigid right
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 22:19:25 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Professor Katherine van Wormer of the University of Northern Iowa, an expert in addiction, says that Bush has many qualities of a ''dry drunk,'' a former alcoholic who stopped drinking but still thinks obsessively. She wrote:
'Bush's rigid, judgmental outlook comes across in virtually all his speeches. To fight evil, Bush is ready to take on the world, in almost a biblical sense. . . . Bush possesses the characteristics of the `dry drunk' in terms of his incoherence while speaking away from the script; his irritability with anyone (for example, Germany's Gerhard Schreoder) who dares disagree with him; and his dangerous obsessing about only one thing (Iraq). .
also worried about our president
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 22:13:48 (EDT)
My two cents are:
That definition in the dictionary is wrong because it reads like the list of characterstics Republicans pretend to have so they can scam voters into helping rich guys.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 21:34:34 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Cheney is a bad man but a good vice-president. He is going to put American business, or at least some American businesses, back on their feet.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 21:30:53 (EDT)
My two cents are:
That's the old definition of liberal. Today's liberals are the antithesis of that definition. There's a new definition of liberal somewhere, probably in Pete's fevered brain, all tangled up and sticky.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 21:28:44 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Pete knows patriots? Hah. Wouldn't know a patriot if it bit him in the lard. Pete doesn't even understand that America is a liberal idea, founded by liberal men, our founding fathers, as the great hope and experiment in liberalism, and rededicated to liberalism by history's greatest liberal, Abraham Lincoln. Where do you figure the poor pathetic jackass picked up his political philosophy? Do you suppose his political philosophy professor was the same moron who taught him that South America is full of "terror universities?" Remember that? When the pineapple got back from tourist safari and announced that the real threat was from the south, from the terror universities that a former Reagan advisor had taught him about? Poor Pete. The sap wrote the book on pathetic. I majored in "political philosophy", so you should listen to me. I know this stuff at a rigorous academic level. Trained by the world's foremost expert on the South American terror universities. Of which you treasonous slime have no clue, as the Iraqi fighters. And I am studying English as a foreign language and will soon be fluent in it, as Brooklyn schoolboys, my teacher say.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 21:22:18 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I never trusted Cheney, believe it or not. I think the search process he had for VP candidate was rigged from the start. And there's that sidelong sneer of his and the dead eyes. I'd hate to think he's a bad man, but maybe he is.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 21:21:52 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I support our president, but I'm worried about him. He looks peaked, worn out, distracted. I suspect that Cheney may be forcing him to give head.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 21:07:28 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Negro.
'nuff said
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 21:03:30 (EDT)
My two cents are:
That man couldn't see the big picture.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 20:52:20 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I wish that father of the kid who got killed early on in the war had some mettle. You know, the angry black man who said his kid had died for nuthin'. That man is the E-nemy of America and is probably rooting for Iraq, as are one out of three Frogs. That man is sssooo selfish. Just because his son died. Geesh.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 20:48:07 (EDT)
My two cents are:
She wouldn't even talk to FOX?
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 20:12:27 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Guess the Iraqis, as the liberals, didn't expect our moms to have such mettle.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 20:10:50 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Give the coffin flag to Mom, not that treasonous Iowa bitch.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 20:09:18 (EDT)
My two cents are:
A chaplain informed Kiehl's parents of their son's death Friday evening.
"We just want everyone to know we support the president and the troops, and we believe in what James went over there for," his mother, Janie Kiehl said in a telephone interview Friday night.
Kiehl's pregnant wife, Jill, in Des Moines, Iowa, has declined to talk to the media.
bitch has low-quality mettle
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 20:06:54 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Razor-sharp lead?
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 19:48:00 (EDT)
My two cents are:
"I like war," 7 year old Hakar says, lisping. "This is a war against Saddam Hussein. We are going to win. I'm going to be a peshmerga, and I will win the war."
But not yet, his father says, with a smile. For now, Hakar is only old enough to watch.
For a few minutes, Hakar stares, quietly, at the battlefield unfolding before his eyes. Then, he notices the little things, closer, such as a razor- sharp piece of shrapnel underfoot. With his right toe, he kicks the ammunition fragment off the dirt wall of the fortification where he is standing and listens intently to the sound of metal scraping against rocks as the jagged piece of lead falls into the valley below.
Then, Hakar looks at his father and grabs his big hand. He sticks a thumb in his mouth and, for a while, assumes that pensive, preoccupied look that any 7-year-old boy sucking his thumb has, anywhere in the world.
nice playground
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 19:32:40 (EDT)
My two cents are:
They're just testing your mettle, Glit.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 19:01:10 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Why do the liberals want to cut off our pencil puds and feed them to the ducks?
Glint
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 18:58:21 (EDT)
My two cents are:
B*llsh*t! Do you think Pete would stoop to posting made-up stuff, like the evil liberal media? A man devoted to Plato, warfare as a hobby, and the church of communication? Nope, when you see that tag "Special to Iraq Press", and that Baghdad dateline, you know you're getting the real goods. I only regret that whoever wrote it doesn't know the difference between a "mobile phone" and a satellite phone.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 18:57:29 (EDT)
My two cents are:
How do you tell a henchman or a crony from a loyalist? Come to think of it, how do you tell a henchman from a crony? Does it help to be out-country and winging it?
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 18:50:30 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Whoever got that inside scoop on the activities of the Mokhabarat certainly has a facility for getting unnamed Baghdad residents to open up. Not only did he get the skinny on the thoughts of Saddam's henchmen, cronies, and loyalists, but he got info from many residents of the sprawling city, most people, residents who tell about phones, emboldened residents, some who say, sources, residents who are anxious, one resident, many residents turning, and another resident. When you figure that at least some residents didn't want to talk to him, you have to admit that it adds up to a whole lot of leg-work. The guy is either a reporter's reporter or sitting at a computer console in the Washington Times building.
residents say (your beliefs here)
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 18:48:52 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Why do the liberals want our mothers to be raped?
Glint
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 18:38:30 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Uh-oh... it's the dread Mokhabarat. Those bastards have been giving me nightmares for years.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 18:36:46 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Has anyone noticed that Pete's delusions are getting wilder? Geesh, he reminds me of that Iraqi information minister who says the Americans aren't anywhere near Bagtown, with cannon fire in the background. I figure this Pete for an Arab manqu�, a mideast kind of guy who retreats into fantasy when reality doesn't suit him. But then, when did Pete ever perceive reality?
patriot
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 18:34:51 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Say what you will, island boy makes a good cheerleader even if he can't participate as a front linesman.
rah rah rah
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 18:33:40 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Baghdad, (Special to Iraq Press), April 3, 2003 � Many residents of this sprawling city of nearly 5.5 million people have received reports of the approaching U.S. troops with glee.
Despite the repeated denials by the regime's propaganda, most people here now believe western media reports that the Americans are at the gates of Baghdad and it is only a matter of time before they storm the city.
The sudden and startling advance has filled the hearts of Saddam Hussein's cronies, henchmen, and loyalists with fear.
The residents tell Iraq Press that the remnants of the dreaded Mokhabarat have mounted a hunt for mobile phones, which they say have helped the coalition troops to pinpoint attacks on buildings and facilities of the ruling Baath party and the fedayeen.
The Mokhabarat has announced rewards of millions of dinars (thousands of dollars) to people passing information on owners of mobiles in the city.
Mobile owners who come forward and give up their phones in the coming 48 hours will be forgiven, the Mokhabarat has said in a statement.
The statement said the authorities would immediately execute anyone found with a mobile phone.
But the U.S. advance to the outskirts of the city has emboldened Baghdad residents after decades of fear and oppression.
Some say they will guide U.S. troops once they land in the city as now they realize the days of Saddam Hussein are numbered.
Sources tell Iraq Press that the Mokhabarat believes scores of mobile phones have entered Iraq since shortly before the start of the war and the users have been passing sensitive information to coalition forces.
The residents are anxious to see a quick demise to Saddam Hussein's regime and an end to war and their misery.
"May God help us this time to get rid of him (�Saddam Hussein( and see an end to our difficult circumstances," one resident said.
What is turning many residents against the regime is the deployment of loyal troops in their areas.
"I cannot defy the fedayeen and Baath militia but inside I hate them. They have come and occupied a house inside our quarter and turned it into something like a military headquarters," another resident said.
Baghdadis are not allowed to change residence or leave their areas without permission.
oh the liberals loathe our victory and the ultimate victory over th eharts and minds of the oppressed
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 18:06:25 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Yes, liberal tactics being what they may, some of you cowards may try to hid my rear side, but the usual retort with the truth makes them scurry and hide in their hideous sewers pretty quickly. Treasonous slime. They know they are losers. Nothing more to prove. Out.
Pete�
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 18:04:31 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I know patriots, you are NO patriot.
Pete�
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 18:01:48 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Right about now a true American with mettle is spraying 25mm rounds into an Iraqi grandfather with K and a bag of clips who thinks he's a hero because he's shooting at an invading army. Why don't these guys do the right thing and desert?
patriot
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 17:44:24 (EDT)
My two cents are:
In this world it takes mettle. And gumption. And grit. True grit. Not to mention mustard. Mettle, gumption, grit, and mustard are just four of the things it takes. But the most is mettle. Good mettle, not the weak kind. Whe knew there was mettle inside all that Kevlar? Nobody had a clue, as the Iraqi fighters. Who had ever heard of a tough Marine? Who would have believed that Clinton would have developed all those great weapons? It comes as a total surprise that a post-Clinton Abrams tank can take one of those remaindered Soviet jobs. We're all standing here with our jaws open.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 17:32:22 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Delta's top five executives got full salaries plus bonuses totaling $4.8 million, while the company is hemorrhaging money. Another 55 second-tier executives got six-figure bonuses totaling $12.5 million. Delta also spent $25 million setting up special accounts to protect certain executives' pensions in the event of bankruptcy. The plan calls for two more payments this year and next.
I can't wait to help bail them out
And of course we are all happy to learn that the Bush administration plans to provide universal health care and massive school construction for postwar Iraq, while simultaneously cutting health and education funding here at home.
Those of you who feel an impulse to raise your hand and ask, "Uh, what about us?" are just being selfish. If we get universal health care and massive school construction (between one-third and one-half of all American schools are somewhere between dilapidated and flat falling apart), why then, Bush couldn't afford to give a $350 billion tax cut to the richest 1 percent of Americans. You see how selfish you're being?
Marian Wright Edelman of the Children's Defense Fund has a depressing new set of statistics about the damage being done to American children � more falling into poverty, more homeless, and cuts to Head Start, Medicaid, Children's Health Insurance Program, after school, pre-school, schools, food programs ... on and on the list goes. Edelman calls it "an ideological coup d'etat." Did anyone vote for this?
The other night in Ames, Iowa, a man stood up to ask me a question. "I'm from Texas, but I left 50 years ago," he said. "I guess I've just forgotten. Could you explain to me just what you Texans mean when you say, 'compassion?'"
molly's mettle
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 17:29:59 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Whose mettle is he talking about? Cheney's mettle? Snippy's mettle? Pearle's mettle? Kenny boy's mettle? How do we know who's a real American so we can judge the mettle?
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 17:25:27 (EDT)
My two cents are:
It's because he's a sinner.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 17:25:18 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Pete seems to believe there's something honorable in coming here every day and getting his ass kicked by liberals.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 17:21:43 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Easy to have mettle inside an iron kettle.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 17:09:12 (EDT)
My two cents are:
It's not often that the prize is your very own tar baby.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 17:06:36 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Some of the guys with the mettle are jazzed, others are a little queasy. None of them knew that being a hero was about sitting inside armor and wasting people who didn't seem to want to stop dying. It was a famous victory.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 17:03:41 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Sure, the have mettle, but how about their fettle? Are they in fine fettle?
doubt it
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 17:00:46 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Pete counts himself among those with a clue? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 16:59:50 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Nothing for a chuckle like one of these troglodyte science gothchas.
Professor Znatch
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 16:58:49 (EDT)
My two cents are:
When did they start keeping the records? Was Herr Farhenheit a middle ages guy? How about Se�or Celsius?
What the fu....?
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 16:57:08 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Amazing that the traitorous liberals have no clue, as the Iraqi fighters, of what mettle Americans, true Americans, are made of. Lesson to both: you lose. Checkmate.
Pete�
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 16:54:52 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Say what you will about the Graham family, the son will never out-sleaze the father.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 16:54:13 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Uh, he has a telescope?
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 16:52:25 (EDT)
My two cents are:
How does he know what the wrold sees?
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 16:49:32 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Oh, good. Fightin' Boy is here!
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 16:48:33 (EDT)
My two cents are:
How do you know they'll enver succeed? They ahve succeeded before. What's different now?
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 16:43:27 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Another day the wrold sees not to screw with the uS. Bring on your 100 bin ladens. Soon, terrorists will elarn that they will enver succeed, except in winning the hearts and minds of the treasonous liberals.
Pete�
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 16:29:49 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Claims that man-made pollution is causing "unprecedented" global warming have been seriously undermined by new research which shows that the Earth was warmer during the Middle Ages.
From the outset of the global warming debate in the late 1980s, environmentalists have said that temperatures are rising higher and faster than ever before, leading some scientists to conclude that greenhouse gases from cars and power stations are causing these "record-breaking" global temperatures.
Last year, scientists working for the UK Climate Impacts Programme said that global temperatures were "the hottest since records began" and added: "We are pretty sure that climate change due to human activity is here and it's accelerating."
more on the liberal liars
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 16:27:54 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Guy sounds like a Jabi to me.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 15:49:50 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Evangelist Franklin Graham, having already virtually taken over his father's organization, the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association, runs his own relief agency. Samaritan's Purse is one of the world's largest Christian relief agencies, and it "is mobilized and poised to assist those affected by the war to liberate Iraq," reports AgapePress, a Christian News Service. The Rev Donald Wildmon's American Family Association (AFA) also has a plan for a relief effort incursion. Despite an AFA Web site banner-headline that reads "Is Islam a Peaceful Religion?" (the AFA answers the question no) the pastor-with-a-plan hopes "to help raise money to help the displaced people of Iraq rebuild their lives and let them know that Christians in America care for them and want to help them through their struggle against tyranny."
That's a thought. While Christians (and Jews) in the Bush Administration mastermind the wholesale destruction of the country and the slaughter of thousands, Rev. Wildmon wants Iraqis to know that "compassionate" Christianity doesn't stop at the water's edge.
but no oars for the heathen
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 15:13:59 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Ai.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 15:06:36 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Bodian?
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 15:02:22 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Marine Cpl. Kemaphoom A. Chanawongse, 22, Waterford, Conn.
Pino?
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 14:50:28 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Sheeit, it's dangerous out country. But the rewards can be great glee at daily fighting the treasonous liberals. Doesn't do a damn thing for Halliburton, is the only problem.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 14:12:56 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Nobody said it wasn't dangerous in country.
Glint
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 14:04:05 (EDT)
My two cents are:
A quarter bil is a little on the high side. My guess is no more than 100 large per guy.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 12:47:42 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Halliburton gets at leats a quarter bil for each guy, long run.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 12:46:46 (EDT)
My two cents are:
DEATHS:
April 3:
Army Staff Sgt. Nino D. Livaudais, 23, Utah, combat
Army Spc. Ryan P. Long, 21, Seaford, Del., combat
Marine Pfc. Chad B. Metcalf, 20, Coahoma, Texas
Army Spc. Donald S. Oaks Jr., 20, Harborcreek, Pa., combat
Army Sgt. 1st Class Randy Rehn, 36, Longmont, Colo., combat
Army Capt. Russell B. Rippetoe, 27, Colorado, combat
Army Sgt. Todd J. Robbins, 33, Hart, Mich., combat.
April 2:
Marine Lance Cpl. Brian E. Anderson, 26, Durham, N.C., non-hostile accident
Army Spc. Mathew Boule, 22, Dracut, Mass., helicopter crash
Marine Cpl. Mark Evnin, 21, South Burlington, Vt.
Army Master Sgt. George A. Fernandez, 36, El Paso, Texas
Marine Pfc. Christian D. Gurtner, 19, Ohio City, Ohio, non-combat weapons discharge
Army Chief Warrant Officer 4th Class Erik A. Halvorsen, 40, Bennington, Vt., helicopter crash.
Army Chief Warrant Officer 3 Eric A. Smith, 42, Rochester, N.Y., helicopter crash
April 1:
Army Sgt. Jacob L. Butler, 24, Wellsville, Kan., combat
Marine Lance Cpl. Joseph B. Maglione, 22, Lansdale, Pa., non-combat weapon discharge
March 31:
Army Spc. Brandon Rowe, 20, Roscoe, Ill., combat
March 30:
Marine Capt. Aaron J. Contreras, 31, Sherwood, Ore., helicopter crash
Marine Sgt. Michael V. Lalush, 23, Troutville, Va., helicopter crash
Marine Sgt. Brian McGinnis, 23, St. Georges, Del., helicopter crash
March 29:
Marine Staff Sgt. James Cawley, 41, Layton, Utah, combat
Army Cpl. Michael Curtin, 23, Howell, N.J., suicide attack
Army Pfc. Diego Fernando Rincon, 19, Conyers, Ga., suicide attack
Army Pfc. Michael Russell Creighton Weldon, 20, Palm Bay, Fla., suicide attack
Marine Lance Cpl. William W. White, 24, New York, vehicle accident
Army Sgt. Eugene Williams, 24, Highland, N.Y, suicide attack
March 28:
Army Sgt. Roderic A. Solomon , 32, Fayetteville, N.C., vehicle accident
March 27:
Marine Gunnery Sgt. Joseph Menusa, 33, Tracy, Calif., combat
Marine Lance Cpl. Jesus A. Suarez Del Solar, 20, Escondido, Calif., combat
March 26:
Army Spc. William A. Jeffries, 39, Evansville, Ind., illness
Marine Maj. Kevin G. Nave, 36, White Lake Township, Mich., vehicle accident
March 25:
Navy Hospital Corpsman 3rd Class Michael Vann Johnson Jr., 25, Little Rock, Ark., combat
Marine Pfc. Francisco A. Martinez Flores, 21, Los Angeles, combat
Marine Staff Sgt. Donald C. May, Jr., 31, Richmond, Va., combat
Marine Lance Cpl. Patrick T. O'Day, 20, Santa Rosa, Calif., combat
Marine Cpl. Robert M. Rodriguez, 21, New York, combat
Air Force Maj. Gregory Stone, 40, Boise, Idaho, grenade attack
March 24:
Marine Cpl. Evan James, 20, La Harpe, Ill., drowned in canal
Marine Sgt. Bradley S. Korthaus, 29, Davenport, Iowa, drowned in canal
Army Spc. Gregory P. Sanders, 19, Hobart, Ind., combat
March 23:
Army Spc. Jamaal R. Addison, 22, Roswell, Ga., combat
Marine Sgt. Michael E. Bitz, 31, Ventura, Calif., combat
Marine Lance Cpl. Brian Rory Buesing, 20, Cedar Key, Fla., combat
Marine Lance Cpl. David K. Fribley, 26, Fort Myers, Fla., combat
Marine Cpl. Jose A. Garibay, 21, Costa Mesa, Calif., combat
Marine Cpl. Jorge A. Gonzalez, 20, Los Angeles, combat
Army Pfc. Howard Johnson II, 21, Mobile, Ala., combat
Marine Staff Sgt. Phillip A. Jordan, 42, Enfield, Conn., combat
Marine Lance Cpl. Patrick R. Nixon, 21, Gallatin, Tenn., combat
Marine 2nd Lt. Frederick E. Pokorney Jr., 31, Tonopah, Nev., combat
Marine Cpl. Randal Kent Rosacker, 21, San Diego, combat
Marine Lance Cpl. Thomas J. Slocum, 22, Thornton, Colo., combat
Marine Lance Cpl. Michael J. Williams, 31, Yuma, Ariz.
March 22:
Navy Lt. Thomas Mullen Adams, 27, La Mesa, Calif., helicopter collision
Marine Lance Cpl. Eric J. Orlowski, 26, Buffalo, N.Y., machine gun accident
Army Capt. Christopher Scott Seifert, 27, Easton, Pa., grenade attack
Army Reserve Spc. Brandon S. Tobler, 19, Portland, Ore., vehicle accident
March 21:
Marine Maj. Jay Thomas Aubin, 36, Waterville, Maine, helicopter crash
Marine Capt. Ryan Anthony Beaupre, 30, St. Anne, Ill., helicopter crash
Marine 2nd Lt. Therrel S. Childers, 30, Harrison County, Miss., combat
Marine Lance Cpl. Jose Gutierrez, 22, Los Angeles, combat
Marine Cpl. Brian Matthew Kennedy, 25, Houston, helicopter crash
Marine Staff Sgt. Kendall Damon Waters-Bey, 29, Baltimore, helicopter crash
Date not given:
Marine Lance Cpl. Thomas A. Blair, 24, Broken Arrow, Okla., combat
Marine Sgt. Nicolas M. Hodson, 22, Smithville, Mo., vehicle accident
Army Spc. James Kiehl, 22, Comfort, Texas, combat
Army Sgt. George Edward Buggs, 31, Barnwell, S.C., combat
Army Master Sgt. Robert J. Dowdy, 38, Cleveland, combat
Army Pvt. Ruben Estrella-Soto, 18, El Paso, Texas, combat
Army Chief Warrant Officer Johnny Villareal Mata, 35, El Paso, Texas, combat
Army Pfc. Lori Piestewa, 22, Tuba City, Ariz., combat
Army Pvt. Brandon Sloan, 19, Bedford Heights, Ohio, combat
Army Sgt. Donald Walters, 33, Kansas City, Mo., combat
CAPTURED:
March 24:
Army Chief Warrant Officer 2 Ronald D. Young Jr., 26, Lithia Springs, Ga.
Army Chief Warrant Officer 2 David S. Williams, 30, Orlando, Fla.
March 23:
Army Spc. Edgar Hernandez, 21, Mission, Texas
Army Spc. Joseph Hudson, 23, Alamogordo, N.M.
Army Spc. Shoshana Johnson, 30, Fort Bliss, Texas
Army Pfc. Patrick Miller, 23, Park City, Kan.
Army Sgt. James Riley, 31, Pennsauken, N.J.
MISSING:
March 23:
Army Sgt. Edward J. Anguiano, 24, Brownsville, Texas.
Marine Pfc. Tamario D. Burkett, 21, Buffalo, N.Y.
Marine Cpl. Kemaphoom A. Chanawongse, 22, Waterford, Conn.
Marine Lance Cpl. Donald J. Cline, Jr., 21, Sparks, Nev.
Marine Pvt. Jonathan L. Gifford, 30, Decatur, Ill.
Marine Pvt. Nolen R. Hutchings, 19, Boiling Springs, S.C.
Marine Sgt. Fernando Padilla-Ramirez, 26, Yuma, Ariz.
Marine Sgt. Brendon Reiss, 23, Casper, Wyo.
OTHER COALITION CASUALTIES:
DEATHS:
British:
April 1:
Unidentified soldier, killed in accident involving light armored vehicle.
March 31:
Staff Sgt. Chris Muir, Romsey, England, killed while disposing of explosive ordnance
March 30:
Marine Christopher R. Maddison, combat
Lance Cpl. Shaun Andrew Brierley, road accident
March 28:
Lance Cpl. Matty Hull, in combat; death is being investigated possibly as result of friendly fire
March 25:
Cpl. Stephen John Allbutt, Stoke-on-Trent, England, tank hit by friendly fire
Trooper David Jeffrey Clarke, Littleworth, England, tank hit by friendly fire
March 24:
Sgt. Steven Mark Roberts, Bradford, England, combat
Lance Cpl. Barry Stephen, Perth, Scotland, combat
March 23:
Sapper Luke Allsopp, London, combat
Staff Sgt. Simon Cullingworth, Essex, England, combat
Flight Lt. Kevin Barry Main, jet shot down by friendly fire
Flight Lt. David Rhys Williams, jet shot down by friendly fire
March 22:
Lt. Philip Green, helicopter collision
Lt. Marc Lawrence, helicopter collision
Lt. Antony King, Helston, England, helicopter collision
Lt. Philip West, Budock Water, England, helicopter collision
Lt. James Williams, Falmouth, England, helicopter collision Lt. Andrew Wilson, helicopter collision
March 21:
Color Sgt. John Cecil, Plymouth, England, helicopter crash
Lance Bombardier Llewelyn Karl Evans, Llandudno, Wales, helicopter crash
Capt. Philip Stuart Guy, helicopter crash
Marine Sholto Hedenskog, helicopter crash
Sgt. Les Hehir, Poole, England, helicopter crash
Operator Mechanic Second Class Ian Seymour, helicopter crash
Warrant Officer Second Class Mark Stratford, helicopter crash
Maj. Jason Ward, helicopter crash
� 2003 The Associated Press
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Not bad, considering gas is over two bucks
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 12:45:04 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Don't worry about Rove letting Rumsfeld go into Syria or Iran. These wars are hardly worth it if all you get is a four-point bounce.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 11:47:46 (EDT)
My two cents are:
What a bunch of sore losers. We killed, at a rough estimate, 2000 Iraqis in the latest surgical strike into Bagtown.
Anonymous.
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 11:46:02 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The president yelped?
doubt it-- the rest may or may not be true
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 11:45:00 (EDT)
My two cents are:
The minute it's made up, you'll hear about it
Ah yes, that chemical weapons factory that turned out to be an all-night petrol garage
By Mark Steel
03 April 2003
You expect lies, but usually they're found out once a war is over. But in this war the lying is so inept that it gets rumbled the next day. So the news starts "Oh, apparently that uprising we yelled about all through yesterday didn't happen" or "Ah, yes, that chemical weapons factory turned out to be an all-night petrol garage".
The military briefings must be given by one of those pathological liars you get in pubs. One day the press conference from Washington will begin: "Guess what, I won an Olympic swimming medal once. I had to swim underwater so no one could see me because I was in the secret service."
The presenters who front this bilge should say: "We're here to bring you 24-hour rolling cack that's been made up. The minute it's made up, you'll hear about it. And there's some breaking cack being made up right now, apparently Saddam has filled some clouds with anthrax and he's forcing giants in the Republican Guard to blow them towards Bournemouth. We'll bring you more as soon as it's made up."
One of the sickest examples is the squirming over how 55 civilians came to be killed in a market. Their investigations are going on, they tell us. Because it's a great mystery how, in a city in which 300 cruise missiles a night are exploding with "shock and awe", anyone might have been blown up. Working that out must be like living through an episode of Inspector Morse.
The most likely explanation, says Jack Straw, is that the Iraqis did it themselves, and the exploded missile with an American serial number found at the site was probably put there by wily Iraqis. Or maybe the Iraqis have built a replica Baghdad somewhere in the desert, where Saddam is forcing his people to blow themselves up so it can be filmed to make the Americans look bad.
Another persistent myth is that, as one report told us, "the main objective of the coalition forces is to get food and medicine into Basra". If the reporter is asked why, despite this generosity, the Iraqi people still don't seem to trust us, he'll probably say: "I expect it's because most people in Basra are, at the moment, on a diet. And they may resent the coalition for putting temptation in their way." I suppose that the Americans are hoping that eventually the people of Basra will come round and say: "They might have blown my mate's leg off, but credit where it's due, once they got here they gave him some very soothing cream for his stump."
On Tuesday night, a news report told us that anti-war protests had "melted away". To prove this, the reporter announced: "One night before the war Parliament Square was packed with protesters, but now there's just one lone man with a wet banner." Did it really not occur to this reporter that the reason there were no demonstrators was because on Tuesday night there was no demonstration? Perhaps he does sports reports where he says: "Support for Manchester United has melted away. On Saturday afternoon there were 60,000 people at Old Trafford, but the following morning there were just a couple of cleaners."
The terrifying thing is that the people who seem to fall for the propaganda most of all are the governments who make it up in the first place. The result is that the first two weeks of this war can appear like the first four years of Vietnam with the film speeded up. They expected to be welcomed, and when they weren't, they almost pleaded: "Can't you see? We're here to liberate you." So when civilians oppose them the generals declare they're "Republican Guard" in civilian clothing. So the whole population becomes a potential enemy, the troops get edgy and fire on women and children. And, as in Vietnam when Kissinger bombed Laos and Cambodia, the Americans are already threatening Syria and Iran.
So I don't follow the line that "We must support the war to back our troops". If teenagers run off to join the mafia, you don't say: "I was against them going but now they're there we can't undermine them by saying they should come home." The only consistent way to support the troops' safety is to demand that they come home and go back to starting fights in pubs in Colchester as normal.
Because when the Stars and Stripes flies in Baghdad, that isn't the end. Millions of Arabs won't walk away like a football manager after losing a match, muttering, "Well our defence let us down but good luck to Donald Rumsfeld in the next round." Because the country will be under the control of the President who, as he was about to announce the war had begun, threw his arms into the air and yelped: "I feel good."
Who knows how nutty he'll be next time? The war on Iran will begin with George Bush announcing: "Fellow Americans, get on up like a sex machine. We will not rest until I've been taken to the bridge."
re Dim Son propaganda
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 10:26:07 (EDT)
My two cents are:
I understand that Dim Son has requested that the needed weapons of mass destruction be planted by the Los Angeles Police Department.
way more patriotic than thou
- Sunday, April 06, 2003 at 10:17:31 (EDT)
My two cents are:
Big-hearted, bountiful, charitable, free, generous, lavish, magnanimous, munificent, open-handed, philanthropic, unselfish, unstinting,broad-minded, easygoing, enlightened, fair-minded, humanitarian, impartial, lenient, magnanimous, open-minded,tolerant, unbiased, unbigoted, unopinionated, unprejudiced, progressive, reformist?
Punch is all that?
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 22:07:14 (EST)
My two cents are:
???
?
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 22:03:29 (EST)
My two cents are:
What's Punch? A liberal?
Glint
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 20:57:45 (EST)
My two cents are:
Punch. That pretty much captures our boy. Shrieking, yes.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 20:17:40 (EST)
My two cents are:
Enough courage for Medal of Freedom?
Huzzah! Huzzah! I've killed the Devil!" shrieks Punch in his final triumph
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 19:52:18 (EST)
My two cents are:
I thought he came here to get attention.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 19:46:40 (EST)
My two cents are:
Pete says he comes here to fight every day. That ought to be enough to prove his courage.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 19:27:07 (EST)
My two cents are:
Jay Leno gave two uninterrupted complete segments to Dennis Miller to rail away at will. In the first segment he savaged anti-war demonstrators, especially Michael Moore. In the second segment he vigorously supported the war, and for good measure, made sure that we all understood that global warming was a myth. Speaking of climate change, hell will freeze over before Leno or anyone on NBC will let an anti-war comedienne rant and rave for two uninterrupted segments. NBC is owned by weapons manufacturer GE. But of course, NBC is, still, in the eyes of the blind-as-a-bat right wing pundits, part of the "liberal" media.
freedom of speech for all...I mean some
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 19:18:00 (EST)
My two cents are:
Why is it that lard-assed couch potatoes tend to set such a high value on courage, and despise prudence so? Is it the same thing that makes a fellow who has spent a lifetime worrying that he is queer pretend that his lady friends are Penthouse Pets?
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 19:01:39 (EST)
My two cents are:
Every now and then he would turn away from the Three Stooges and look at the pictures in his political philosophy text. A certain confusion crept in.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 18:56:06 (EST)
My two cents are:
Pete, San Pedro JC political philosophy aside, disagreeing with the government isn't treason. We settled that at Nuremberg.
patriot
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 18:54:11 (EST)
My two cents are:
Not possible that he's a coward. After all, didn't he experience playground battle injuries way back when?
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 18:53:24 (EST)
My two cents are:
What is all this about the demonrats not gaining any further power now? If that means they won't get reconstruction contracts, I can agree. If it means they won't win elections, I can't go along with it. With due respect for the possibility that Pete took a political philosophy class and understood some of it, a Bush war bounce is not really something you can take to the electoral college.
patriot
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 18:51:36 (EST)
My two cents are:
My dad was a full captain, and I'm afraid of my shadow!
Leech
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 18:43:21 (EST)
My two cents are:
Pete discovered long ago that it is impossible to understand poetry. Hence, poetry.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 18:42:16 (EST)
My two cents are:
The misfortune of putting eye to letter?
Church of Communication
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 18:41:20 (EST)
My two cents are:
It takes a lot of courage to watch the bullets fly on television. Especially with these embedded reporters. Talk about harm's way!
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 18:40:17 (EST)
My two cents are:
True. It's hard to believe that anyone who took college courses on WWII Pacific battles and made a hobby of warfare could be a coward.
Patriot
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 18:39:22 (EST)
My two cents are:
Pete, a coward? How could that be? His dad was a Lt. Commander!
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 18:37:59 (EST)
My two cents are:
Pete knows cowardice like a leper knows his disease.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 18:06:29 (EST)
My two cents are:
Cowards, eh? Man, that hurts coming from a brave dude like you.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 18:05:23 (EST)
My two cents are:
These liberal traitors are the biggest COWARDS that I have ever had the misfortune of putting eye to letter. Truly the primary enemy agaisnt America within. There is no chance the demonrats will gain any further power now. Their sick lies and distortions and agenda read loud and clear now to even the msot simple American boob. You pod people are done. Good.
Pete�
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 17:02:15 (EST)
My two cents are:
Amazing to see the constant stream of negativity from the traitor demonrat party. Keep at it. It gets you nowhere but further marginalized.
Pete�
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 16:50:14 (EST)
My two cents are:
So President Bush announced the start of the US-led invasion of Iraq. In the two weeks since, however, the White House has slowly shifted its rhetoric. In recent speeches, Bush and other administration officials have said relatively little about disarming Iraq, focusing instead on the promise of regime change in Baghdad.
The shift is understandable, given that US and British forces have yet to actually locate any clear evidence of the banned weapons the White House insists Iraq is hiding.
maybe you could play 'diggin' up bones'
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 15:52:40 (EST)
My two cents are:
Merry-go-round music sound clips don't seem to fit these serious times.
times require dirge sound clips
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 15:46:05 (EST)
My two cents are:
Whoever thought it would be cute to post that Three Stooges sound clip is skating pretty close to treason. We're in the middle of a war, for Christ's sake, and we should be supporting Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld, not making fun of them.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 15:21:01 (EST)
My two cents are:
And if he can keep a tight lid on the Baghdad intifada.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 15:18:33 (EST)
My two cents are:
The problem is not with the concern about the Iraq war. The problem is the underlying weakness with the economy," Treasury Secretary John W. Snow said in Orlando on Thursday. Asked about the possibility of a return to recession, he said that "we need to guard against it" because of a "clear weakness."
regular little hummingbird?
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 15:15:47 (EST)
My two cents are:
His numbers are up and they will stay up as long as the economy keeps humming along!
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 14:26:12 (EST)
My two cents are:
Snippy's approval is up again. What can one expect when there's 24 hours a day sanitized news coverage. Like playground war. First second graders can see, hear about dirt-ball bombings pelting little ants trying to scramble to safety. Thanks to the Bush administration we have war in all its glory.
shoot for the moon, even if you miss, you'll land on the stars
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 14:23:43 (EST)
My two cents are:
Done.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 12:44:58 (EST)
My two cents are:
This is pronto?
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 12:43:08 (EST)
My two cents are:
Can we still make it a shit-all-over-petefest?
curious Tampa grandmother
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 12:41:15 (EST)
My two cents are:
John never rambled about the squirrels. He posted a number of clean and concise reports on the squirrels. John wasn't a rambler. There's probably a lot more that you never noticed about John, but why make this nice day into another miserable shit-all-over-glintfest?
patriot
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 12:39:24 (EST)
My two cents are:
Well, not so much lies as manages information.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 12:37:12 (EST)
My two cents are:
Ah, I'll send that one pronto.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 12:36:15 (EST)
My two cents are:
You're no John.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 12:35:44 (EST)
My two cents are:
Just in case you hadn't heard, it's the one with the pole lady and father time.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 12:35:02 (EST)
My two cents are:
To whoever posted the link. <> I've pulled the poles out of the ground used to mark the edge of the driveway during plowing. So spring has officially started. Got 50 gal. of driveway sealer, but with rain expected today and Monday that will have to wait. Going to go out and powerwash the deck to prepare it for staining. I feel like John?
when he'd ramble about the squirrels.
Glint
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 12:33:29 (EST)
My two cents are:
Brunhilda sent. More later.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 12:32:00 (EST)
My two cents are:
Glint just can't bring himself to admit that even the guys with the white hats make hundreds of mistakes and kill thousands of innocents. Hell, they even kill themselves by the dozens, but Glint can't see that. He also seems to have an inordinate amount of faith in the government for such a normally wary rube. And yet, the biggest lies about American wars have come from the government, not the press, not the liberals, but the government. the government lies, Glint.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 12:30:56 (EST)
My two cents are:
Enough of this sour dwelling on the glorious war. This is a good day to get some crabgrass poison and spread it on the lawn. Maybe lighten up by reviewing the collection of Three Stooges tapes. Go boating tomorrow if the sun stays out, work on the tan. You can only get so much satisfaction, as a liberal, out of hoping for our Marines to die and loving murderers.
patriot
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 12:28:47 (EST)
My two cents are:
He knew they were Iraqi soldiers because of the Saddam tattooes.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 12:25:36 (EST)
My two cents are:
Where the hell is my pix?
Lou Medina
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 12:24:18 (EST)
My two cents are:
There was a Republican Guard dude in a civilian hospital? If that's not the smoking gun I don't know what is.
patriot
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 12:23:36 (EST)
My two cents are:
Glint, who are you talking to today? You seem kind of lathered up.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 12:07:25 (EST)
My two cents are:
Good German.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 12:04:30 (EST)
My two cents are:
I checked out that carnage site posted earlier. Besides the American casualties were civilian hospitals full of Iraqi soldiers as patients. Guess that's because there are so few civilian casualties by comparision. Heard a NRP reporter today say how she visited a civilian hospital near Baghdad. She was talking to one of the "innocent victims" about his pain and suffereng when his father became impatient and said his son is strong and fierce, and a brave member of the Republican Guard. But it's a free country so nobody can stop you from deluding yourselves.
Glint
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 12:02:34 (EST)
My two cents are:
Did you ever get the idea that Glint craves attention?
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 12:00:14 (EST)
My two cents are:
Why do liberals love murderers?
Glint
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 11:57:16 (EST)
My two cents are:
Let's see. Glint's list today includes: Saddam Hussein, the French, the Russians, garages, the ACLU (which may soon be headed by either Dick Armey or Bob Barr), murderers, doctors and liberals. Dumb in country Pino.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 11:49:21 (EST)
My two cents are:
Garage is one of those French words that may need replaced. Saw a photo in the Carroll County Times of a parking garage in Westminster that collapsed during construction. Since when did Westminster get large enough to need a parking garage? Stupid French. <> So is the ACLU ready to defend Saddam? When the coalition begins running into Russinan tanks and French white flags shipped in violation of the sanctions will the ACLU delcare that the evidence was siezed without a warrant and should be excluded and charges against their guy dismissed? The LIberals never met a murderer or abortionist they didn't like.
Glint
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 11:36:28 (EST)
My two cents are:
Z�, I just want the one, with Brunhilda. Can't you e-mail in raw form? If Saddam Hussein descended into the fog every time he had a fever or a hangnail Baghdad would be called Bush City by now.
Nonato
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 10:50:09 (EST)
My two cents are:
I got pictures. I just haven't had the energy to do anything with them. But the fog of fever is lifting now. I'll put them on a CD and mail them to you, in raw form. Later, I can fix some of the better ones up and send them.
Z�zinho
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 09:44:31 (EST)
My two cents are:
Oh, Z�zinho... you got any pictures me? Please send, so I can impress the chicks.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 08:48:03 (EST)
My two cents are:
The B-2 bomber carries sixteen 2'000 lb. JDAM bombs. If all goes 100% as planned (the bomb does not fall outside of its specified margin of error of 13 meters, and the GPS guidance system is not foiled by a $50 radio jammer kit, easily purchased), then here is what one such bomb does:
everyone within a 120 meter radius is killed;
to be safe from serious shrapnel damage, a
person must be at least 365 meters away;
to be really safe from all effects of
fragmentation, a person must be 1000 meters away, according to Admiral Stufflebeem.
We don't do body counts --General Franks
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 01:51:27 (EST)
My two cents are:
You're not going to impress Glint with pictures of torn up children. You might get him to masturbate a little more fervently, but you're not going to impress him.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 01:34:16 (EST)
My two cents are:
Fuck 'em. The oil makes up for everything.
Anonymous.
- Saturday, April 05, 2003 at 01:28:19 (EST)
My two cents are:
The hawks' whole plan rests on the assumption that we can turn it into a self-governing democracy--that the very presence of that example will transform politics in the Middle East. But what if we can't really create a democratic, self-governing Iraq, at least not very quickly? What if the experience we had after World War II in Germany and Japan, two ethnically homogeneous nations, doesn't quite work in an ethnically divided Iraq where one group, the Sunni Arabs, has spent decades repressing and slaughtering the others? As one former Army officer with long experience with the Iraq file explains it, the "physical analogy to Saddam Hussein's regime is a steel beam in compression." Give it one good hit, and you'll get a violent explosion. One hundred thousand U.S. troops may be able to keep a lid on all the pent-up hatred. But we may soon find that it's unwise to hand off power to the fractious Iraqis. To invoke the ugly but apt metaphor which Jefferson used to describe the American dilemma of slavery, we will have the wolf by the ears. You want to let go. But you dare not.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 23:42:48 (EST)
My two cents are:
Where are the "Pro-Lifers"? Who Cares About Dead Iraqis? Mark Morford You won't see them on CNN, or on GOP-lickin' Fox News, or even on this Web site. It's just too much. But if you want to know what Bush's little war is really inflicting, you might want to take a look. Here's just one site, from New Zealand, that's collected a number of such grisly images from foreign presses. Also includes photos of dead U.S. soldiers. Warning: Graphic content. Warning: Perspective altering. Where are all the so-called "pro-lifers" who tell us pregnant women considering abortion and the public considering abortion rights must view images of aborted fetuses if they are to make a fully informed judgment, since witnessing the gruesome realities is important in determining whether abortion or abortion rights are moral - a perfectly reasonable position? Why aren't they demanding for these images of wounded or slaughtered children to be featured in every newspaper and on every TV network, so that Americans can make an informed decision about the justification and morality of this war?
why? because we don't give a shit about anything alive once it leaves the womb, that's why <sorry posted the rest by accident>
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 22:46:54 (EST)
My two cents are:
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/features/?s=warimages
a little something for Glit
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 22:45:38 (EST)
My two cents are:
Welcome to Media Whores Online
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Opportunistic Vultures
I wish he were around to celebrate our victory over Saddam. But in a small way, he helped make it happen.
- Andrew Sullivan on the death of Washington Post columnist Michael Kelly
Consistent with the right's now well-known, pathological enthusiasm for exploiting the deaths of those who can no longer speak for themselves, a vulgar Andrew Sullivan disgraces the memory of Michael Kelly by suggesting the Post columnist - again, who can no longer speak for himself - would have "celebrated" the aftermath and consequences of the Iraq invasion (consequences as yet unknown but that will affect the entire world for the rest of all of our lives), and that he would have been proud of any role he had in bringing about those consequences or regard them as "our victory over Saddam."
Only we don't know that Michael Kelly would have celebrated at all. No one does, and only someone as arrogant and opportunistic as Andrew Sullivan would claim to possess that knowledge. (Such as Peggy Noonan, who presumed to speak on behalf of Senator Paul Wellstone after his death, insisting he would not have approved of the celebration of his life by his family and friends. Ironically, Noonan's own Kelly "tribute" is nothing more than a tacky, sleazy, thoroughly political anti-Clinton smear job.)
Sully describes Kelly as an old fashioned Irish-Catholic Democrat and a liberal. If he was those, he almost certainly had moments of doubt about the morality and justification of the Iraqi invasion, and considered the Pope's instruction following Bush's issuing his 48 hour notice of commencement of the Iraqi invasion: "Whoever decides that all peaceful means made available by international law have been exhausted, assumes a grave responsibility before God, his conscience and history."
Michael Kelly might well have repented or begun to repent before his death for any past support for war. Christians believe that one can never know that about a person - any person, including any journalist and any soldier - and no one should presume to know it or make judgments based on their presumption.
In fact, Michael Kelly's last published piece certainly doesn't read as though it was written by someone still certain about the morality of the Iraq invasion:
Across the Euprhates
Michael Kelly
EAST OF THE EUPHRATES RIVER, Iraq -- Near the crest of the bridge across the Euphrates that Task Force 3-69 Armor of the 1st Brigade of the 3rd Infantry Division seized yesterday afternoon was a body that lay twisted from its fall. He had been an old man -- poor, not a regular soldier -- judging from his clothes. He was lying on his back, not far from one of several burning skeletons of the small trucks that Saddam Hussein's willing and unwilling irregulars employed. The tanks and Bradleys and Humvees and bulldozers and rocket launchers, and all the rest of the massive stuff that makes up the U.S. Army on the march, rumbled past him, pushing on.
On the western side of the bridge, Lt. Col. Ernest "Rock" Marcone, commander of Task Force 3-69, stood in the sand by the side of the road, smoking a cigar and drinking a cup of coffee. Marcone's soldiers say he deeply likes to win, and he seemed quietly happy. At 2 a.m. yesterday, Marcone had led his battalion into the assault with two objectives, both critical to the 3rd Infantry's drive to Baghdad. The first was to seize the Karbala Gap, a narrow piece of flat land between a lake and a river that offers a direct and unpopulated passageway to this bridge. The second was the bridge itself, the foothold across the Euphrates, last natural obstacle between the division and Baghdad...
But none of this affected the outcome, or even much slowed the advance. "First we destroyed all the near-side forces," Marcone said. "Then with artillery and aviation we destroyed much of the far side. The 3-7 crossed the river in boats, six of them, with engineers, to deal with the demo [explosives]. That was followed by an armored assault by three companies, two tanks and one infantry."
The fight lasted only several hours but was intense, Marcone said. "We took no prisoners," he said. "They fought until they died."
Those passages read as though they were written by someone very far from certain the US's overwhelming might is making right. Someone who was not convinced that the possibly "unwilling" old man's death was just, either in the grand or smaller scheme of things, or that Lt. Col. Marcone was not a twisted and bloodthirsty warmonger inappropriately reflecting "happiness" attributable to his enjoyment of a "win" resulting from overwhelming military superiority, as opposed to sadness attributable to his role in carrying out a necessary evil.
Andrew Sullivan should be ashamed of himself once again, and should retract those parts of his tribute that presume Michael Kelly supported the Iraqi invasion at the time of his tragic death.
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Army Chaplain withholds Aid from Soldiers
(Unless they Agree to Baptism)
CAMP BUSHMASTER, Iraq - In this dry desert world near Najaf, where the Army V Corps combat support system sprawls across miles of scabrous dust, there's an oasis of sorts: a 500-gallon pool of pristine, cool water.
It belongs to Army chaplain Josh Llano of Houston, who sees the water shortage, which has kept thousands of filthy soldiers from bathing for weeks, as an opportunity.
''It's simple. They want water. I have it, as long as they agree to get baptized,'' he said...
Earlier this week, word went out that portable showers might be installed here soon, but Llano was undaunted.
''There is no fruit out here, and I have a stash of raisins, juice boxes and fruit rolls to pull out,'' the chaplain said optimistically.
Story
MWO,
Remember the Spanish Inquisition? Jews who accepted Christ would be spared death. So, if you are a desperately thirsty Jewish soldier, do you have to accept Christ to get a juice box from this "man of God"?
I don't know what fries my toast more, that he's holding water from our fighting men and women, or that he's extorting them with that water, or that he thinks he's doing God's work by his actions. Can we get this guy pulled from the front lines? This is just unconscionable. Apalling. Barbaric. And he's doing this to OUR men and women. In the name of God. Somehow, I don't think God would be so pleased.
Lynn in Miami
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Horse,
Today Reuters says: "One of Washington's main stated reasons for going to war was the need to ascertain that Iraqi President Saddam Hussein had no banned weapons.." This is of course completely wrong. The administration never stated that the need for war was to ascertain that Iraq had no banned weapons! The stated reason we needed to go to war because Saddam definitely HAS them! At least that was what all the neocons and virtually the entire press corps have been telling us. It looks like they are getting concerned and starting to cover the Pres. and their own behinds by engaging in a little retrospective change of history. In any event it is clear that a lot of people in the US are just now realizing what the rest of the world knew- we started this thing without real proof and if we don't find anything we are screwed. Of course by starting the war prematurely, without proof, we have given control of our credibility over to Hussein. Do we really expect him to protect the veracity of George W. Bush? Did no one ever think that the worst that Saddam could do to us in general and to Bush in particular is to not have these weapons? To go down in history as the President who started a major war based upon a false accusation, a lie, is a terrible thing. Maybe Hussein is stupid enough to have these things and stupid enough to commit suicide over them, but then again maybe he caught on early that these weapons are much more powerful for his cause if they simply don't exist at all.
Roger Hurst
Notice we're hearing about "regime change" and "liberation" more and more frequently, but "weapons of mass destruction" and "the safety of the American people" less and less frequently?
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Regime Begins Campaign of Lies for Next War
Evidence Against Syria Is Questioned
Washington - The CIA has no credible evidence that the government of Syria has had a role in the shipment of night-vision goggles and other military equipment to Iraq, according to an administration official familiar with U.S. intelligence in the region.
Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld last Friday suggested that Syria was responsible for the shipment to Iraq of defense-related goods, including the goggles, and warned that the United States considered "such trafficking as hostile acts and would hold the Syrian government accountable." Syria quickly denied the accusation.
And the administration official yesterday said that while military goods, including goggles, have been smuggled through Syria into Iraq for many years, "It's not necessarily with the knowledge, consent or approval of the Syrian government."
That sounds a lot like Russia's Iraq "problem." But something tells us the Unelected Fraud's solution in this case won't be ringing up Syria's leaders on the telephone, but instead will involve sending hundreds or thousands more Americans to their deaths.
Fable of the Day WWIV
The Wolf and the Lamb
Once upon a time a Wolf was lapping at a spring on a hillside, when, looking up, what should he see but a Lamb just beginning to drink a little lower down. "There's my supper," thought he, "if only I can find some excuse to seize it." Then he called out to the Lamb, "How dare you muddle the water from which I am drinking?"
"Nay, master, nay," said Lambikin; "if the water be muddy up there, I cannot be the cause of it, for it runs down from you to me."
"Well, then," said the Wolf, "why did you call me bad names this time last year?"
"That cannot be," said the Lamb; "I am only six months old."
"I don't care," snarled the Wolf; "if it was not you it was your father;" and with that he rushed upon the poor little Lamb and ate her all up. But before she died she gasped out
"Any excuse will serve a tyrant."
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Reminder: Take Back the Flag
But the hard part will be strategic. As I�ve argued before, much of the Vietnam anti-war movement turned out to be counterproductive in that the protesters were even less popular than the war. The current movement needs to keep its patriotism front-and-center, and it needs to keep the media as honest as possible in reporting not only the war but also the opinion of the millions of Americans who do not want to see our nation ruined by the Bush administration�s hubristic desire to become the world�s policeman, judge, jury and executioner.
Altercation
Take lots of flags along with you to your anti-war protests.
Remember, people who already oppose the Unelected Fraud's regime don't need convincing. But Moron-American sheep who might otherwise be inclined to support it if they didn't see flags at anti-war protests do.
If the public sees a sea of American flags at anti-war rallies, eventually those ubiquitous car flags, lapel pins, etc. will cease to be automatically perceived as an endorsement of the immoral, warmongering chickenhawk regime's policies. And since Moron-Americans are particularly susceptible to herd-think and they vote, that matters.
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Where are the "Pro-Lifers"?
Who Cares About Dead Iraqis?
Mark Morford
You won't see them on CNN, or on GOP-lickin' Fox News, or even on this Web site. It's just too much. But if you want to know what Bush's little war is really inflicting, you might want to take a look. Here's just one site, from New Zealand, that's collected a number of such grisly images from foreign presses. Also includes photos of dead U.S. soldiers. Warning: Graphic content. Warning: Perspective altering.
Where are all the so-called "pro-lifers" who tell us pregnant women considering abortion and the public considering abortion rights must view images of aborted fetuses if they are to make a fully informed judgment, since witnessing the gruesome realities is important in determining whether abortion or abortion rights are moral - a perfectly reasonable position?
Why aren't they demanding for these images of wounded or slaughtered children to be featured in every newspaper and on every TV network, so that Americans can make an informed decision about the justification and morality of this war?
why? because we don't give a shit about anything alive once it leaves the womb, that's why
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 22:42:09 (EST)
My two cents are:
Evidence Against Syria Is Questioned
Washington - The CIA has no credible evidence that the government of Syria has had a role in the shipment of night-vision goggles and other military equipment to Iraq, according to an administration official familiar with U.S. intelligence in the region.
Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld last Friday suggested that Syria was responsible for the shipment to Iraq of defense-related goods, including the goggles, and warned that the United States considered "such trafficking as hostile acts and would hold the Syrian government accountable." Syria quickly denied the accusation.
And the administration official yesterday said that while military goods, including goggles, have been smuggled through Syria into Iraq for many years, "It's not necessarily with the knowledge, consent or approval of the Syrian government."
That sounds a lot like Russia's Iraq "problem." But something tells us the Unelected Fraud's solution in this case won't be ringing up Syria's leaders on the telephone, but instead will involve sending hundreds or thousands more Americans to their deaths.
retraction of more lies
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 22:40:12 (EST)
My two cents are:
Re: Mustard & Cyanide Found?
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I heard the same thing earlier this morning. Not so sure about the "mustard" label as that seems a rather innocuous item to track let alone identify on the fly. IIRC, mustard gas decomposes rather rapidly in water so unless they�re talking of some organic decay product from it I�m not so sure they mean that either.
Cyanide could be from industrial pollution (mining and refining). When I worked at an aluminium smelter we did a fine trade in producing cyanide (carbon burning with nitrogen from the air) as a by-product.
Not the sort of things you�d dump deliberately in to a water way.
Re: Mustard & Cyanide Found?
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If the amounts are as heavy as or heavier than the amounts found in the gulf end of the mississippi river, then we're in business..
Re: Mustard & Cyanide Found?
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LOL !!!
Yes the thought had occured to me that it migh be industrial. It'll be interesting to see the concentration.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 22:33:46 (EST)
My two cents are:
"I'm not going to let the likes of Tom DeLay question my patriotism..."
Yes!
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 22:03:56 (EST)
My two cents are:
Finally, some backbone. About time.
you go, john
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 21:54:11 (EST)
My two cents are:
Kerry Lashes Out at Republican Criticisms
April 4, 2003 05:31 PM EST
WASHINGTON - Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry lashed out at top congressional Republicans on Friday after they assailed him for saying the United States, like Iraq, needs a regime change.
"The Republicans have tried to make a practice of attacking anybody who speaks out strongly by questioning their patriotism," the Massachusetts senator said in a telephone interview with The Associated Press. "I refuse to have my patriotism or right to speak out questioned. I fought for and earned the right to express my views in this country."
Kerry, a decorated Vietnam War veteran, backed a congressional resolution last fall giving President Bush the authority to use force to oust Iraqi President Saddam Hussein, but he repeatedly has criticized the president for failing to give diplomacy more time.
In a speech Wednesday in Peterborough, N.H., Kerry said Bush so alienated allies prior to the U.S.-led war against Iraq that only a new president can rebuild damaged relationships with other countries.
"What we need now is not just a regime change in Saddam Hussein and Iraq, but we need a regime change in the United States," Kerry said. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Texas, called Kerry's words "desperate and inappropriate." Said House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., "Once this war is over, there will be plenty of time for the next election."
Kerry dismissed the attacks, telling an Atlanta political gathering Thursday that patriotism is not mutually exclusive with questioning the war. One day later, he delivered an even sharper rebuke to the GOP complaints.
"If they want to pick a fight, they've picked a fight with the wrong guy," Kerry said in a telephone interview.
The lawmaker said this round of charges and countercharges is not the first time Republicans have made a "phony issue of patriotism." He cited last year's campaign against former Georgia Democratic Sen. Max Cleland, who lost both legs and an arm in the Vietnam War.
As part of a broader GOP campaign, Bush and other Republicans criticized Senate Democrats for holding up legislation to create a Department of Homeland Security over a labor provision, suggesting that the delay reflected weakness on national security. Republican Saxby Chambliss unseated the first-term Cleland in the November elections.
"I watched what they did to Max Cleland last year," Kerry said. "Shame on them for doing it then and shame on them for trying to do it now."
Kerry also mentioned recent GOP criticism of Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle, D-S.D., who said Bush's diplomatic efforts had failed "miserably" because he didn't secure a U.N. resolution for the war. Following a speech to the New York State United Teachers convention in Washington, Kerry said, "I'm not going to let the likes of Tom DeLay question my patriotism, which I fought for and bled for in order to have the right to speak out."
Neither Hastert, Frist nor DeLay served in the military.
Kerry said Republicans have no right to criticize him when they are cutting funds to veterans hospitals.
go john go
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 21:03:37 (EST)
My two cents are:
I think today's red post says it all perfectly. It predicts invented history will repeat itself. Or something like that. It's an important post from the fevered brain of Glint.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 20:51:41 (EST)
My two cents are:
I thought it was about the red states and the blue states.
Glurp
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 20:08:13 (EST)
My two cents are:
I thought it was about a big-nosed woman's right to clean up in a political smear lawsuit. But certainly it wasn't about blow-jobs, which were ruled irrelevant to that particular frivolous lawsuit.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 20:07:47 (EST)
My two cents are:
It's not about blow jobs! It's about sexual harrassment in the work place! It's about the sacred oath of the county civil court system! It's about the sacred trust that our society has in the honesty of lawyers, as guarded by organizations such as the Arkinsaw Bar! It's about the bent pencil pud whanging against the leaden lectern that is my rectitude! But it's not about blow jobs! No siree!
Pete�
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 19:39:08 (EST)
My two cents are:
Thanks for clarification.
sounds reasonable
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 19:37:23 (EST)
My two cents are:
Yup. Pretty much says it.
Glint
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 19:35:51 (EST)
My two cents are:
Conservatives don't care. These guys aren't conservatives and wouldn't know conservativism if it munched them in the ass. They are troglodytes. They care about blow jobs. They impeach for blow jobs. They believe that the blow job is a crime against nature. The blow job is why they hate fairness, tolerance, broad-mindedness, generosity, laissez-faire open-market capitalism, and all the other traits of the liberal. Conservatives are conservative. These guys are lunatic right-wing radicals. Of course they care if someone is getting a blow job. The care pretty much defines them. That and the lack of mental acuity.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 19:34:42 (EST)
My two cents are:
Why do conservatives care?
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 19:29:29 (EST)
My two cents are:
Why do liberals like blow jobs?
Glint
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 19:26:47 (EST)
My two cents are:
Are you the faux Glint or the real Glint? It's impossible to tell!
Pete�
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 19:25:29 (EST)
My two cents are:
"I will not allow this little dictator to control 25 percent of the civilized world's oil." George I
not to worry dad, I'll take care of if for you
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 19:20:07 (EST)
My two cents are:
Sure, make excuses for your beloved dictator. Why do liberals love Saddam Hussein?
Glint
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 19:02:18 (EST)
My two cents are:
Maybe a little mustard gas in river water is normal. Maybe all the world's waters have a touch of mustard gas. It just hasn't been one of the routine checks until recently. Maybe the mustard gas is what gives water its taste.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 19:00:24 (EST)
My two cents are:
Geesh, I didn't know Glit was this dumb. Always thought the guy had more on the ball. On the other hand, maybe the exhilaration is getting to him-- all these dead Marines and GI's, most of them in their early 20's. To say nothing of the dead ragheads. Maybe after he stops cumming he'll collect his wits and seem normal.
traveler
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 18:56:47 (EST)
My two cents are:
It's good to know that the standard drinking-water test includes a check for mustard gas. Wouldn't want any of THAT to turn up in my springhouse.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 18:37:44 (EST)
My two cents are:
It's an interesting page, even if you don't have a password. Just the front of it shows who is jerking the little synapse-strings in the dynamic duo's brains. You don't even need to read the in-depth member stuff.
student of rube hilarity
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 18:34:00 (EST)
My two cents are:
The three pies had to be posted by Glit. Pete thinks Rush is infantile, and probably never grazes his page for political philosophy.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 18:31:53 (EST)
My two cents are:
You don't hear them complaining though. They leave that to the likes of Pete and Glint.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 18:29:18 (EST)
My two cents are:
That Braskan inferiority complex is pretty awesome.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 18:28:15 (EST)
My two cents are:
I for one am stunned to find that the people with most of the income pay most of the income tax!
wow, this ain't Neebrasky, toto!
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 18:27:52 (EST)
My two cents are:
Who is it that fell for the RushLimbaugh.com "wage earners" pie chart? Bill Gates's income is wages? Is that you, Glimp? Twice burned, just as dumb as ever?
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 18:26:08 (EST)
My two cents are:
Glint's a desparate rube. He's just trying to bury his humiliation in a pile of nonsense. Inside, he's seething. He'll lash out soon, against his betters.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 18:24:14 (EST)
My two cents are:
Looks like Glint figures he has a winner with this who said what when riff.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 18:22:03 (EST)
My two cents are:
If you've got a τωατ then STFτU!
I only talk this way to slide past the packet sniffers
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 18:15:35 (EST)
My two cents are:
America. Ah-may-ree-ka. It was the most powerful word in the world. It would leave the lips of grown men and their hearts would crack open. Please, if you can help me I will do anything -- I will work for free, I will take care of your children, I will take care of your garden. I will stay only for one year, if you can just buy me a plane ticket to New York City.
But after the bombing started, the worm turned. We were counting on struggling masses yearning to breathe free, but video of the bombs hitting Baghdad, the video of crying children, the reports of dead civilians...these have been played over and over, sometimes with sentimental Enya-like music, and it's just been too much for the people here. They are Kurds and their identity is linked to their Kurdish culture, but, apparently, their religious identity is stronger than this. Our attack on Iraq is being seen as an attack on their Muslim brothers and sisters. It has become a religious war, and Saddam Hussein is now being called a hero, even among the Kurds. In fact, the war has given the Kurds and the Turks a common ground, perhaps the first time they've ever agreed on anything.
It seems we've blown it, again, by not understanding the Muslim mind. We thought the Iraqis would run towards our troops waving white flags, but instead they seem to be willing to die as martyrs. No one offers to talk to me now. No one offers tea and cigarettes. I've been told to say that I am Dutch or Australian, anything but an American.
Ah-may-ree-ka. The word is now joined with the Turkish word for war -- Savas -- pronounced with a hiss, ssha-vasssh. By Scott Carrier
but snippy said they want to be liberated
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 18:14:31 (EST)
My two cents are:
Post more π charts, please!
∞ man
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 18:12:00 (EST)
My two cents are:
Must be the beer.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 18:11:55 (EST)
My two cents are:
Wat? Nice try, rube. Watch it, or I'll send you in country.
God
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 18:11:20 (EST)
My two cents are:
Sure he's a liberal. He didn't find what Snippy wanted him to find.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 18:10:20 (EST)
My two cents are:
¥
and one of your balls is on top - now look, my ωat's been sewn shut t!
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 18:09:55 (EST)
My two cents are:
Blix is liberal?
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 18:09:34 (EST)
My two cents are:
Pino!
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 18:08:54 (EST)
My two cents are:
The biggest mistake the United States made in the war, Zinni said, was speaking of "shock and awe." "That was a way to say: "Your fate is inevitable. We're going to crush you. The might of America will defeat you. Just surrender and throw down your arms.'
"You don't speak to Arab pride and Arab manhood in this way. That whole psychological business gave them another cause to fight for, more than they would have fought just for Saddam."
OH GOD--ZINNI IS A TRAITOR
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 18:07:57 (EST)
My two cents are:
'The wrong war at the wrong time,' former Mideast envoy maintains
By ANTHONY VIOLANTI
News Staff Reporter
4/4/2003
Click to view larger picture
DEREK GEE/Buffalo News
"I had grave reservations" about the war, retired Marine Gen. Anthony Zinni said.
America may be on the threshold of military victory in Iraq, but that hasn't changed Anthony Zinni's feelings against the war.
"This is in fact the wrong war at the wrong time," the retired Marine general said Thursday night at Canisius College. Zinni was head of Central Command until Gen. Tommy Franks took over nearly three years ago.
Zinni had served as President Bush's peace envoy to the Middle East until this month, when he spoke out against the war. "I had grave reservations about this whole undertaking and expressed those," Zinni said. "That's one reason why I'm no longer the Middle East envoy.
"We have to look for solutions that can come about without military action," Zinni said during the William H. Fitzpatrick Lecture at Canisius. "We're applying military action to places where it isn't necessary. I don't think the American people will stand for a series of wars like this."
love, Zinni, a Bush guy. <hey, I thought you were supposed to gas people with mustard gas.>
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 18:07:05 (EST)
My two cents are:
‰
hey look, i've got 3 balls!
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 18:05:36 (EST)
My two cents are:
That's some pie high there. Wow, looks like the Democrats want the people on the white part of the graph to get the break on the taxes paid by the folks in the colored section. (01)
Glint
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 18:03:12 (EST)
My two cents are:
Keeping explosives in vials that also contain WMD is still being analyzed. Hidden from Hans Blix and the other liberal front stooges.
Remember: The Boogie Man uses Chain saws when least expected
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 18:02:05 (EST)
My two cents are:
Ha! the progressive income tax. What do you know? Bully!
Teddy Roosevelt
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 18:01:10 (EST)
My two cents are:
STFU, Pino!
God
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 17:59:58 (EST)
My two cents are:
1+1=2
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 17:59:42 (EST)
My two cents are:
Liberal monkey poo Monkey eat it. So the media didn't say that the white powdered boxes contained thousands of WMDs. That was the Liberal ButtFlash spin on the story. So what if BABY POWDER ≠ WMD. Who said it did?
Glint
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 17:56:48 (EST)
My two cents are:
How dare they contaminate our water supply!
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 17:54:30 (EST)
My two cents are:
Putting poison and mustard gas in the Euphrates sure qualifies for use of WMD.
doink!
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 17:50:58 (EST)
My two cents are:
Blair had to persuade Bush: Taliban first, Iraq second
Tony Blair had to persuade George Bush to tackle the Taliban before attacking Iraq after September 11, according to the former British Ambassador to the US.
Group Captain Mandrake says, "That's our Bush!"
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 17:50:15 (EST)
My two cents are:
Probably the monkey virus at work.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 17:50:00 (EST)
My two cents are:
Quite a stir? Did they not want to show it, because of Family Values?
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 17:49:01 (EST)
My two cents are:
I understand the story about the oldsters getting married created quite a stir on FOX yesterday, when it was still news.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 17:48:04 (EST)
My two cents are:
Useless to consult rightwinginfested media, weapons of mass distraction. Try www.warblogs.cc.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 17:43:45 (EST)
My two cents are:
Glint believes Iraq wasn't allowed to have gun powder.
poor rube
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 17:43:17 (EST)
My two cents are:
Say, sorta sounds like that MSNBC story. We're really desperate to find some WMD's. Got any?
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 17:42:26 (EST)
My two cents are:
OKLAHOMA CITY -- After 77 years of living together, Zyness O'Haver and Sallie Warren have decided to make it legal.
The blushing bride is now 94 and her new groom is 95.
The couple married Wednesday at the Oklahoma County Courthouse in Oklahoma City.
The judge said he can't remember a more anxious bride.
Three of the couple's four grandchildren were on hand.
Family members say it was O'Haver's idea to finally get married. He made good on a frequent promise to make an "honest woman" of his housemate.
my hero
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 17:41:50 (EST)
My two cents are:
It was kind of him to share it with us, though. A window into the heart of madness. Tertiary syphilus?
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 17:41:27 (EST)
My two cents are:
US finds 'suspect vials'
The US military says one sample was labelled "tabun"
US troops say they have found thousands of boxes of unidentified white powder and some nerve agent antidote at an industrial site south-west of Baghdad.
They also said they discovered documents in Arabic, which apparently explain how to carry out chemical warfare.
A special team has been sent to investigate the discovery at Latifiya - part of a large military complex frequently visited frequently by UN weapons inspectors before the war began.
US troops have also reportedly found a second site nearby containing vials of unidentified liquid and white powder.
The Iraqi authorities have not commented on the finds so far. The regime has denied hiding chemical weapons and other weapons of mass destruction from UN inspectors.
this is the original story, before the restraction. <white powder==gunpowder>
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 17:39:49 (EST)
My two cents are:
That's a good example of Pete getting lost in thought, or in a though. It just goes on and gets closer and closer to nowhere. Uncanny. Almost as if planned by a higher being.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 17:38:20 (EST)
My two cents are:
How will we know when you're fighting?
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 17:36:16 (EST)
My two cents are:
There's a war against liberals? Who's fighting them?
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 17:34:50 (EST)
My two cents are:
Well, what do you know? And all along I thought you were just a fucking lunatic.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 17:33:52 (EST)
My two cents are:
Thanks for explaining what it is you do, Pete. Who knew?
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 17:31:42 (EST)
My two cents are:
Using Liberal tactics, I admit, is a real risk, but necessary to expose their evil. Most Americans shun the fight to allow the demonrats to infect the minds with their sickness. They are much holier than I, but I go willingly to battle agaisnt the tyrants of reason. Of course, Zen mongers and atheists and lapsed spiritual people care not for the moral glue that binds people. to them, they follow daily, without diversion, the mandates of Psalms 1:1
"Blessed is the man who does not walk in the counsel of the wicked or stand in the way of sinners or sit in the seat of mockers." I admit to being a sinner in the war against the liberals, but I also admit to fighting their form of evil with whatever method will save others from their deathly grip of disinformation and misery.
Pete�
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 17:29:28 (EST)
My two cents are:
Up until now, there was little doubt that the massive US funding expected for "rebuilding" Iraq would be doled out to French, Russian, German and Syrian (Syrian?) companies. And English, Bulgarian, and Lithuanian companies. Halliburton and Bechtel were already whining about the massive giveaways to furriners expected. But now the wisdom of the House of Representatives has put the kibosh on all that. No longer will the USA throw billions at foreign companies. It's over. Get used to it.
Glint, which part of "bonehead" don't you understand?
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 17:28:46 (EST)
My two cents are:
So...your point?
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 17:28:23 (EST)
My two cents are:
It's a volunteer army, dipshit. Gotta have women...or children. What, we should allow fat, middle-age hoales in?
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 17:27:27 (EST)
My two cents are:
US Marines found cyanide and mustard agents in high concentrations in the Euphrates River near Nassiriya in Iraq, television network MSNBC has reported.
The network said a briefing from Marine officials was its source for the information.
The agents were found during routine tests conducted to ensure the water being used is safe, MSNBC said.
Neither Centcom officials in Qatar nor US military officials in Iraq have confirmed the MSNBC report.
Mustard gas produces painful, long-lasting blisters and often leads to blindness, while cyanide kills by preventing blood from transporting oxygen.
heres your use of WMD you sick lying liberal traitors
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 17:24:20 (EST)
My two cents are:
We can thank the feminazis and the Cliton lap dogs for putting women in war for worse treatment than men. Equal? Ha. No way. Women are potentially much more likely to be tortured and abused. Reason enough to keep them off the front lines.
Pete�
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 17:20:19 (EST)
My two cents are:
We are glad "sigh" exists to exhale multiple forms of gas. There is a purpose for everyone, i suppose.
Pete�
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 17:16:00 (EST)
My two cents are:
Idiot. Gunpowder is a weapon of mass destruction?
choke on your war
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 17:07:20 (EST)
My two cents are:
I spit on Faux. I spit on MSNBC.
angry confirmed liberal
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 17:06:17 (EST)
My two cents are:
CNN is total rightwing bullshit. Faux is faux.
confirmed liberal
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 17:05:33 (EST)
My two cents are:
I watch Fox to see how a semi-objective news agency sets forth both sides of the story. I watch CNN to see what the enemy of America (liberal democraps) are doing. If you don't know the difference, then you are a confirmed liberal.
Pete�
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 16:53:46 (EST)
My two cents are:
"US bans France, Germany from rebuilding Iraq" -
Agence France Press -
The House of Representatives has passed a supplementary budget amendment excluding France, Germany, Russia and Syria from taking part in US-funded reconstruction bids in Iraq, because they opposed the US-led war in Iraq.
So? What part of for us or against us didn't they understand?
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 16:42:24 (EST)
My two cents are:
Oh, the white powder is ONLY an explosive. Better put on your BABY MILK FACTORY smock when you say that.
Glint
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 16:36:28 (EST)
My two cents are:
We liberals are so fortunate that Tweedledum and Tweedledee are never boring.
sigh
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 16:36:15 (EST)
My two cents are:
Euthanasia?
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 16:35:26 (EST)
My two cents are:
There's a good one down there where Pete analyzes "Bush's 66%" and how it makes Clinton's knocking Poppy out of the box look weak. He says the Snippy poll number "sure beats" winning AND legal election results. Regresses to his earlier whine about how Clinton's election was besmirched by his beating Poppy and Perot separately but not if you added their votes together. There's not much one can say about all this, except that it hardly comes up to the infantile Rush level. When Pete starts parodying Pete, you know the poor pathetic asshole is feeding on the bottom. Flit, isn't there some way you can help the lard?
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 16:34:20 (EST)
My two cents are:
I think you can still speak of them, Glint, just not for them. In fact you just did.
Pete�
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 16:25:16 (EST)
My two cents are:
"I watch Fox News," he said proudly.
Weep for me, Columbia
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 16:23:27 (EST)
My two cents are:
Geesh, that Pete is sharp as a tack! He can tell the fake Petes from the real Petes! Got more on the ball than I thought!
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 16:21:28 (EST)
My two cents are:
Pete's points are random. He burbles out the slogans he remembers from back in the day when he listened to Rush Limbaugh, and lets them make whatever point they don't make.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 16:19:43 (EST)
My two cents are:
15:02, 03 and 04 are cheap imitations. Liberals can never improve on the real McCoy� Plus, the code-challenged nature of these idiots is really laughable.
Pete�
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 16:19:13 (EST)
My two cents are:
American officials have admitted that the thousands of boxes of white powder they seized north of Baghdad are explosives.
"The US military and various media outlets had suggested that [thousands of boxes of white powder seized north of Baghdad] may have made the first discovery of chemical weapons in Iraq." I heard about the powder but never heard such claims made about it. Of course I watch FoxNews so I can't speak of your own sources ala BuzzFlash and Mediac0>k5uckers.com.
Glint
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 16:18:37 (EST)
My two cents are:
Pete forgot the Mexican War and the Spanish-American War, but he made up for it by throwing in the Cold War, which wasn't a war and therefore good enough for two depending on whatever point he thought he was making.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 16:18:16 (EST)
My two cents are:
Glit! You're way too tricky today! Machiavellian! Awesome!
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 16:16:28 (EST)
My two cents are:
15:08 tends to make up its news out of hot ass gas. Coup coup.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 16:15:03 (EST)
My two cents are:
Why do the Liberals on this page post urban legends only to debunk their own material? Are you trying to bore us into leaving the site?
Glint
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 16:12:24 (EST)
My two cents are:
Bush's 66% sure beats Cliton's never winning more than 50% in either of his "stolen" (Perot-aided) elections. And don;'t even begin with the popular vote (the Constitution currently calls for selection by the Electoral College, not popular vote) and liberal Florida Supreme Court's coup efforts to change Florida recount law.
Pete�
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 16:12:18 (EST)
My two cents are:
These polls simply confirm the ability of the US media to shape Americans' perception of reality. All the more reason to go back to absics and remove liberals from the major media unless a real conservative is available to couteract their lies, distortions and socialistic naysaying agenda. At present, Fox News is the only one that comes close.
Pete�
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 16:08:41 (EST)
My two cents are:
Wondering apparently ignored whole sections of civics classes on the American Revolution, War of 1812, Civil war, WWI, WWII, Cold War, Gulf War, etc. Typical myopis idiot.
Pete�
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 16:06:13 (EST)
My two cents are:
There's no room in this government for any cabinet members, including Treasury Secretaries, who go around touring Africa with a boner. It's already been done before. Clinton went to cricket world and beat his little bongo and smoked a stogie. Price tag for the R&R was $90M.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 15:54:04 (EST)
My two cents are:
We liberals are too dumb to understand the wisdom of bombing, destroying, killing now in order to rebuild later (with the right companies, of course)?
just wondering
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 15:49:12 (EST)
My two cents are:
Are Snippy's low ratings the cause of his looking like a trapped rat during his public appearances and photo ops? Or is it his misgivings on the Lord?
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 15:39:36 (EST)
My two cents are:
Atropine is supposed to be the antidote, not the weapon. Are you sure the boxes were supposed to contain atropine?
reading comprehension?
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 15:36:11 (EST)
My two cents are:
Snippy sounds like a duncan yo-yo. Maybe he needs new bearings.
or a new string
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 15:33:21 (EST)
My two cents are:
The "impeachment" and "wartime" ratings do not necessarily reveal anything, because the impeachment wasn't real while the war is. Since all but the most gullible or troglodytic voters realized that the impeachment was a scam of the lunatic Republicans who had siezed control of Congress, it could be not be expected to have an effect on Clinton's ratings as President. The war, is not generally known by American voters to be an illegal attack on a sovereign nation, and it should guarantee the president, like any wartime president early in the war, at least a 90% favorable rating. That Bush's rating is somewhere in the 50-60% rating amounts to a crushing lack of confidence in the commander-in-chief compared to others in the same role.
patriot
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 15:32:27 (EST)
My two cents are:
No, the boxes of "atropine" turned out to be boxes of explosives.Initially, this find was sold as WMD proof.
reading comprehension
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 15:27:42 (EST)
My two cents are:
Support For War Slips Back to 54%, 42% Oppose; Opposition Grows With Possibility of American Casualties; Bush Job Performance Rating Remains Steady at 54% in New Zogby America Poll
� Support for a war against Iraq has slipped back to 54%, and opposition has increased to 42%, according to a poll of 1,129 likely voters conducted March 14-15 by Zogby International. Support was 57% and opposition was 40% in similar polling March 5 � 7. Both polls have a margin of error of +/- 3%.
�When the president appears before the public to make his case, support moves up slightly,� noted pollster John Zogby. �But support quickly slips back down, and it�s part of a steady pattern we�re seeing. Opposition has been creeping up since early February, and is now at 42%.�
my bad--approval now at 54%
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 15:25:18 (EST)
My two cents are:
To be liberal about it, I don't think there are any lies or retractions of lies in that story. All along, the white powder was "suspected" of being some sort of chemical weapon. No untrue claims were made. This is assuming the atropine was for real. If there's a story here it is that the American reporters talking about finding gas masks universally supposed that this showed that the Iraqis were intending to use poison gas because we good guys don't use it. Yet some of these reporters would know that we use CS gas or other non-lethal chemical agents (to quote Rummy), and that the Iraqis would be fools not to have gas masks whether they intended to use gas or not. Thank you for your patience.
Liberal Patriot #54,789,234
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 15:20:33 (EST)
My two cents are:
Coded images in oil paintings reveal plans for an upcoming "massive germ attack on the U.S."
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 15:19:02 (EST)
My two cents are:
A man caught in the explosion of one of the World Trade Center towers rode bits of the falling building down to safety.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 15:17:44 (EST)
My two cents are:
Osama bin Laden owns Snapple.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 15:16:09 (EST)
My two cents are:
US military admits 'suspicious' powder is explosive
American officials have admitted that the thousands of boxes of white powder they seized north of Baghdad are explosives.
The US military and various media outlets had suggested that they may have made the first discovery of chemical weapons in Iraq.
The claim that the Latifiyah complex was "a suspicious site" was made by a US colonel.
He also claimed to have discovered nerve agent antidote and Arabic documents relating to chemicals.
Colonel John Peabody, an engineer brigade commander with the 3rd Infantry Division, had stated troops found thousands of boxes, each of which contained three vials of white powder, together with documents written in Arabic about chemical warfare.
He said they discovered atropine, used to counter the effects of nerve agents.
The facility had been identified by the International Atomic Energy Agency as a suspected chemical, biological and nuclear weapons site.
UN inspectors visited the plant at least nine times, including as recently as February 18.
latest lies retracted
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 15:15:13 (EST)
My two cents are:
America Prefers "Impeached" Clinton to "Wartime" Bush Newsweek reports Bush's approval rating at a sad 66% - a full seven points lower for the "popular wartime preznit" than Clinton's approval rating the day after "impeachment." That must be so embarrassing.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 15:12:26 (EST)
My two cents are:
STFU!
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 15:09:24 (EST)
My two cents are:
re Mr. Piggy's solution: reincarnation of Sepoy Mutiny general?
that explains it!
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 15:08:55 (EST)
My two cents are:
Rightwingers tend to rely on the internet and talk radio for their "news."
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 15:08:38 (EST)
My two cents are:
Report: US forces use schools for cover Friday, April 4, 2003
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Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 15:06:26 (EST)
My two cents are:
An Israeli friend recently informed me that the UK fought the Islamic terrorist attacks by burying the criminals with a pig. Apparently the Islamic belief is that if ones' body is buried with a pig (because they are considered unclean) their soul will go to hell. I did a little research into this subject matter and found it to be true. This got me thinking.
If we put a baby pig on every airline flight then all suicide terrorists would abort their missions as they would not want their souls to go to hell. Additionally, if we drop shipped, oh say, 100,000 pigs into Afghanistan I think our recon and assault efforts may be more successful. Apparently Muslims dislike the very sight of pigs A LOT!
They are also adamantly opposed to alcohol, thus we spike their water supply with a few thousand gallons of moonshine, get them drunk and turn the pigs loose. The war would be over in a weekend.
Pete�
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 15:04:20 (EST)
My two cents are:
HOW TO STOP ISLAMIC TERRORISTS . . . it worked once in our History . . .
Once in US history an episode of Islamic terrorism was very quickly stopped. It happened in the Philippines about 1911, when Gen. John J. Pershing was in command of the garrison. There had been numerous Islamic terrorist attacks, so "Black Jack" told his boys to catch the perps and teach them a lesson.
Forced to dig their own graves, the terrorists were all tied to posts, execution style. The US soldiers then brought in pigs and slaughtered them, rubbing their bullets in the blood and fat. Thus, the terrorists were terrorized; they saw that they would be contaminated with hogs' blood. This would mean that they could not enter Heaven, even if they died as terrorist martyrs.
All but one was shot, their bodies dumped into the grave, and the hog guts dumped atop the bodies. The lone survivor was allowed to escape back to the terrorist camp and tell his brethren what happened to the others. This brought a stop to terrorism in the Philippines for the next 50 years.
Pointing a gun into the face of Islamic terrorists won't make them flinch. They welcome the chance to die for Allah. Like Gen. Pershing, we must show them that they won't get to Muslim heaven (which they believe has an endless supply of virgins) but instead will die with the hated pigs of the devil.
Pete�
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 15:03:35 (EST)
My two cents are:
I feel that it is important to inform you of very important information that I was told. Seven women have died after smelling a free perfume sample that was mailed to them. The product was poisonous. If you receive free samples in the mail such as lotions, perfumes, diapers etc... throw it away. The government is afraid that this might be another terrorist act. They will not announce it on the news because they do not want to alarm us of any danger.
Pete�
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 15:02:13 (EST)
My two cents are:
I heard a rumor that Osama Bin Landen has underdeveloped genitals because of a medical accident that happen to him as a baby. Supposedly, an American woman laughed at him before they had sex and ever since then, he has become bitter at Americans.
Have you heard the one about Osama going to school in Chicago, dating an american girl, and getting laughed at by her because of the small size of his penis?
pass this one on, Pete
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 15:01:31 (EST)
My two cents are:
Can you say, "I'm a sucker," Pete?
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 14:57:24 (EST)
My two cents are:
In mid-2002, the "Oliver North warned us about Osama" falsity was twinned in e-mail with another wildly popular Internet muddling, the "We freed Mohammed Atta" claim. Like its North counterpart, the Atta story was half-baked at best; it was a different Atta.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 14:56:19 (EST)
My two cents are:
The terrorist North mentioned in his testimony was not Osama bin Laden, however. To the extent that bin Laden was known to the western world in 1987, it was not as a "terrorist" but as one of the U.S.-backed "freedom fighters" participating in the war against the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. Osama bin Laden's hatred of the U.S. and conversion to "terrorist" status is not believed to have come about until the Gulf War of 1990-91, when he was outspokenly critical of Saudi Arabian dependence upon the U.S. military and denounced U.S. support of a "corrupt, materialist, and irreligious" Saudi monarchy. (The Saudi Arabian government stripped bin Laden of his citizenship in 1994 for his funding of militant fundamentalist Islamic groups.)
No, Oliver North did not testify about or speak the name Osama bin Laden during the Iran-Contra hearings. He claimed that threats against his life had been made by terrorist Abu Nidal, telling a congressional committee: " want you to know that I'd be more than willing . . . to meet Abu Nidal on equal terms anywhere in the world. There's an even deal for him. OK? But I am not willing to have my wife and my four children meet Abu Nidal or his organization on his terms." To emphasize his point, North showed the committee a blow-up of a newspaper article detailing the atrocities of Abu Nidal and recalled that an 11-year-old girl named Natasha Simpson, the daughter of an Associated Press news editor, had been gunned down (along with four other Americans) during an attack by an Abu Nidal group on the El Al terminal at the Rome airport in December 1985. North also later claimed that an attempt on his life had been made five months before his congressional testimony at the instigation of Libyan leader Mohmmar Qadaffi:
In February 1987, Muammar Ghadaffi ordered his thugs to carry out a threat made against me in 1986. Thankfully, the FBI intercepted the well-armed perpetrators on the way to our home, and my family and I were sequestered for a time on a military base. The orders from Tripoli were delivered to a terrorist cell in Virginia -- at the offices of The People's Committee for Libyan Students.
So no, Oliver North didn't warn us back in 1987 about Osama bin Laden's "potential threat to the security of the world" or suggest that bin Laden be hunted down by "an assassin team," nor was he given the brush-off by a clueless senator "who disagreed with this approach." Eventually, Col. North drafted his own response to this piece of misinformation:
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 14:55:43 (EST)
My two cents are:
One of the versions in circulation concludes "The senator disagreed with this approach and that was all that was shown of the clip. If anyone is interested, the Senator turned out to be none other than . . . Al Gore." (Senator Al Gore of Tennessee was not a member of the United States Senate Select Committee on Secret Military Assistance to Iran and the Nicaraguan Opposition and therefore did not take part in the questioning of any witnesses before the Committee.)
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 14:52:37 (EST)
My two cents are:
Good story about Ollie North, except it isn't true. Ollie North and his family were not being targeted by Osama bin Laden, at least not according to Ollie North. No, the little felon and his family were being targeted by Abu Nidal, dontcha know.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 14:50:40 (EST)
My two cents are:
An elderly woman named Hamida Abed lay bandaged and still while a young boy nearby with severe bruises all over his body screamed uncontrollably.
A nurse said 15 members of Abed's family had died in a bombing: "She lost all her children, their spouses and her grandchildren."
hope island boy is enjoying the roll
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 14:43:53 (EST)
My two cents are:
I liked the Treasury guy. The one who did the Africa tour with Bono. Now that he's been shitcanned I like the new guy, whoever he is. A leader on the economic front. Knows that a tax cut that couldn't hurt because the surplus was so high will stimulate the economy and create a surplus now that Snippy pissed the old one away.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 14:33:21 (EST)
My two cents are:
I like Tom Ridge. The duck tape guy. His peak leadership was when he allowed as how the probability of a terrorist attack was 9 out of 10 during the orange days. I doubt if Pete could have come up with a better one, even following the gridlines.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 14:30:09 (EST)
My two cents are:
The one I like is that sad-sack ex-governor. Tommy Thompson? The one who humiliates himself and Snippy every time he opens his mouth. Isn't he the one leading us toward smallpox vaccination, for reasons knowable only to the scared shitless? Is Pete following him or is he following the Petes?
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 14:27:43 (EST)
My two cents are:
You couldn't hold Dick Cheney's water, you traitor.
doink
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 14:27:07 (EST)
My two cents are:
I agree. Norman Minetta is a hell of a leader.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 14:24:38 (EST)
My two cents are:
Hey, a gap-toothed lieutenant colonel running a private foreign policy out of the White House looks like Paul Revere to the lunatic right wing. So long as he pretends to believe in God and wants a government somewhere to the right of Attila. If he was misusing government money to protect his private home from imaginary bad guy, so much the better. Shows he knew his way around the trough-- something that was confirmed when he became a millionaire hard-selling marked-up editions of his collected bleats to little old patriot ladies after his lectures. As far as the lunatic right is concerned, the sleazier the better. That's why they'll never turn against any administration that includes Dick Cheney.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 14:22:45 (EST)
My two cents are:
Even Ollie North made Al Gore look stupid. Hilarious liberal idiots.
Hard act to follow.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 14:20:46 (EST)
My two cents are:
I refuse to listen to him jsut as I refuse to listen to the hordes of uneducated leftist actors that you alls eem to idolize. I prefer taking my policy from real leaders, like those in the Bush cabinet. Real Americans. Not you.
Pete�
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 14:19:51 (EST)
My two cents are:
When you box yourself into the moron corner, the best way to punch your way out of it is spring a few quotations from Ollie North's glory days. See if you can't turn the poor lunatic's paranoia fence into some weird sort of imaginary trimph. Haw, Ollie North was scared shitless that Osama bin Laden was after his ass way back when, and stole $60K from the government to protect himself from the imaginary threat.
Good ol' Pete-- always the laffs
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 14:15:40 (EST)
My two cents are:
It's not so much that Rush is infantile, he's just not smooth like Pete. He doesn't have the calm, crystal-clear thinking and communication skills that Pete demonstrates daily. Of course a slick, sophisticated guy like Pete would find Rush infantile, even though his whole schtick consists of Rush arguments from back during the impeachment farce.
partiot
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 14:11:01 (EST)
My two cents are:
And you don't find yourself infantile?
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 14:08:15 (EST)
My two cents are:
You wish, I haven't heard Rush since the Cliton impeachement treason season. Truth comes in one package. Those who see it run on realistic parrallel courses. I know liberal evil when I see it. You people are all infected. Rush obviously knows the truth when he sees it to, even if I have no idea what you refer to about his rantings. I find him infantile, even if he is right.
Pete�
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 14:04:46 (EST)
My two cents are:
Lt.Col. Oliver North testifiedat the [trum ped up liberal witch huint]Iran-Contra hearings during the Reagan Administration.
He was being drilled by a "senator;" "Did you not recently spend close to $60,000 for a home security system?"
Ollie replied, "Yes, I did, Sir."
The senator continued, trying to get a laugh out of the audience, "Isn't that just a little excessive?"
"No, sir," continued Ollie.
"No? And why not?" the senator asked.
"Because the lives of my family and I were threatened, sir."
"Threatened? By whom?" the senator questioned.
"By a terrorist, sir" Ollie answered.
"Terrorist? What terrorist could possibly scare you that much?"
"His name is Osama bin Laden, sir" Ollie replied. At this point the senator tried to repeat the name, but couldn't pronounce it. A couple of people laughed at the attempt.
Then the senator continued. "Why are you so afraid of this man?" the senator asked.
"Because, sir, he is the most evil person alive that I know of", Ollie answered.
"And what do you recommend we do about him?" asked the senator.
"Well, sir, if it was up to me, I would recommend that an assassin team be formed to eliminate him and his men from the face of the earth."
The senator disagreed with this approach, and that was all that was shown of the clip.
By the way, that senator was Al Gore
the complete idiocy of the demonrats
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 14:02:35 (EST)
My two cents are:
Pete gets plenty of glee using Rush's arguments. He doesn't need to think up new ones.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 13:59:43 (EST)
My two cents are:
Don't bother with Pete. He's just a liar with not much to lie about except his girlfriends and his car and his eyepiece. Glit is the powerhouse here. Glit is the one with the deadly rapier intelligence and wit. And the Bible facility... Glit is great at interpreting the Bible, combing it for calls to crusade. Better than the whole liberal fact-checking apparatus. Pete's just a third rate childish liar. Glit is dangerous.
liberals
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 13:58:02 (EST)
My two cents are:
You kill cockroaches one by one? Shit, you'd never even clean out under the stove that way, much less the whole liberal conspiracy.
DeLay Pest Control
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 13:52:05 (EST)
My two cents are:
I'll bet it would give Pete even more glee if he could think up some coherent arguments.
liberals
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 13:49:48 (EST)
My two cents are:
Kerry dared to suggest the replacement of America's commander-in- chief? Hey, that's crossing the line! Does Ashcroft know about this?
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 13:46:54 (EST)
My two cents are:
The Democrat Party is full of Frenchmen and frensymps.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 13:45:12 (EST)
My two cents are:
Daschle... the name does sound suspiciously French.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 13:44:03 (EST)
My two cents are:
What's political about pointing out the shocking statements of Democrat leaders taking the French line and blaming America first?
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 13:43:29 (EST)
My two cents are:
RNC Chairman Marc Racicot really wraps Snippy up in the flag, doesn't he? Do you suppose he's playing the "commander-in-chief" angle for some sort of political advantage?
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 13:40:33 (EST)
My two cents are:
Sorry, no one "gets" to me. My entire purpose in life is to fight you lying sick liberal socialsitic demonrat traitors. Nothing else gives me more glee. I say start the war within the war when the one in Iraq is done, but take no prisoners. These liars need to be eradicated like cockroaches. One by one.
Pete�
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 13:39:13 (EST)
My two cents are:
By "getting to Pete" you mean that he's using colorful language without asterisks? I think all that's going on there is that he has finally decided that God really is the vibration at the edge of the universe, and doesn't care whether there are asterisks or not.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 13:29:19 (EST)
My two cents are:
Call for a crusade? Easy: "Then, of course, you have the deluded women peace niks who have no idea they are being seduced by the devil."
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 13:24:42 (EST)
My two cents are:
Don't tell anyone, but I think our daily subliminal brainwashing is getting to Pete.
liberals
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 13:23:53 (EST)
My two cents are:
Well said, Pete. I agree.
Glint
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 13:22:34 (EST)
My two cents are:
"Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone."
If that's not a call for a crusade, I don't know what is!
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 13:21:55 (EST)
My two cents are:
If that's not a call to crusade, I don't know what is? Well, how about "Let's have a crusade!"
seems simple to me
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 13:20:22 (EST)
My two cents are:
You know, Glint, it can only occur in liberal land for people who behave ass backward. Americans know they are dealing with politicizing liberal traitors, but these fuckwads do not care. They pander to the idiot/moron crowd who hear inciting sound clips and place them like brain washed pods in their Hungry Man mentalities. It is sound bite, subliminal brainwashing with the lies of the left. Daily. Then, of course, you have the deluded women peace niks who have no idea they are being seduced by the devil. They ahve no idea that their vote suppoerts other sick self destructive causes anti-thetical to the overall good. Those are the sad ones, really. But you get what you deserve and supporting traitorous evil will only bring ruin to these stupid people. The enemy is in America located with the treasonous liebral demonrats. Always ahs been, always will be.
Pete�
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 13:19:43 (EST)
My two cents are:
To me, it sounds more like an offer of free baptism than a crusade. I missed where it calls for the surgical bombing.
Bible Guy
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 13:18:49 (EST)
My two cents are:
Way to scare Pete, Kerry!
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 13:18:22 (EST)
My two cents are:
Way to go, Kerry!
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 13:16:36 (EST)
My two cents are:
Are we really allowed to replace a Commander-in-Chief? They're still going to have elections during the War on Terrorism? Is this constitutional?
Worried Nebraska Clodhopper
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 13:15:17 (EST)
My two cents are:
Smart move on Kerry's part. Not only is he right, but he's ahead of the curve. I say this gives him a bounce.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 13:15:03 (EST)
My two cents are:
"Nowhere does the Bible call for crusades" - German President Johannes Rau, a Protestant preacher's son who makes no secret of his own faith. <> "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit" - Matthew 28:19. If that's not a call to crusade, I don't know what is.
Sounds like the Germans don't know their bible and neither do the fact checkers in the Liberal press
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 13:14:30 (EST)
My two cents are:
I responded to the faux Glit? Oh geesh geesh geesh geesh! I feel like I have dogshit on my shoes. This is awful!
liberals
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 13:13:26 (EST)
My two cents are:
10-4.
Glint
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 13:13:24 (EST)
My two cents are:
Yesterday, John Kerry shocked many Americans when he called for "regime change" right here in the U.S. By comparing our commander-in-chief to Saddam Hussein's brutal regime at a time of war, Kerry showed just what he is willing to say to appeal to liberal Democrat primary voters.
RNC, Chairman Marc Racicot quickly responded saying, "Senator Kerry crossed a grave line when he dared to suggest the replacement of America's commander-in- chief at a time when America is at war. Critical analysis offered in the best interests of the country is part of a healthy democracy. But this use of self- serving rhetoric designed to further Senator Kerry's political ambitions at a time when the lives of America's sons and daughters are at stake reflects a complete lack of judgment."
Senator Kerry's shocking comments come just three weeks after he said he would end any criticism if America goes to war, saying, "It's what you owe the troops ... if America is at war, I won't speak a word without measuring how it'll sound to the guys doing the fighting." It appears Senator Kerry is more interested in appealing to a small, radical faction of voters than leading all Americans.
These comments are just the latest example of Democrat leaders blaming America first. Last week, Tom Daschle echoed the French line, blaming our nation for the war, even after the United Nations gave Iraq 12 years to disarm. Joe Lieberman called President Bush a "greater threat to peace than Saddam Hussein." Dick Gephardt claimed that President Bush is "bullying" the world.
more evidence of demonrat treason: Kerry just slit his own throat politically
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 13:13:20 (EST)
My two cents are:
Roger. Willko.
Pete�
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 13:12:58 (EST)
My two cents are:
As long as Pete knows, that's what counts!
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 13:11:58 (EST)
My two cents are:
We're afraid that when the Iraqi people get all that oil, they'll piss it away on beer and cigarettes. We think that the oil should be given to someone responsible, like Texas.
laissez-faire free-market liberals
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 13:11:26 (EST)
My two cents are:
Ha! Idiot! You responded to the faux Glint. Didn't pass the code test (01).
Glint
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 13:11:16 (EST)
My two cents are:
We don't love Saddam Hussein, Glit. We're just worrying that Halliburton is taking too big a risk with this war thing. It could go sour and then our stock will be worth jack sh*t.
liberals
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 13:09:31 (EST)
My two cents are:
Sure, the spoils, but why couldn't Halliburton have just kept milking the status quo? Were they afraid the frogs would ace them out? Sounds to me like they're killing the goose for the golden egg, since Snippy is giving all the oil to the Iraqi people.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 13:07:47 (EST)
My two cents are:
Iraqis fleeing Baghdad and Iran says, "Don't be coming our way!"
what next
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 13:07:15 (EST)
My two cents are:
Why do liberals love Saddam Hussein?
Glint
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 13:06:32 (EST)
My two cents are:
There will be no change in Canada without war.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 13:05:40 (EST)
My two cents are:
If Saddam died of old age, Halliburton could get left out of the spoils. Duh!
grow a brain stem
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 13:05:15 (EST)
My two cents are:
There will be no change in North Korea without war.
Khidhir Hamza
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 13:04:26 (EST)
My two cents are:
Hamza used to be in country.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 13:03:45 (EST)
My two cents are:
Couldn't you also have change if Saddam croaked of old age?
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 13:03:34 (EST)
My two cents are:
Dirty Pinos.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 13:03:09 (EST)
My two cents are:
STFU!
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 13:02:36 (EST)
My two cents are:
Three-Bus Crash Injures 59 Maryland High School Students
Glint's a bus driver?
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 13:02:09 (EST)
My two cents are:
Hamza? Again?
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 13:01:33 (EST)
My two cents are:
You talkin' t' me, pal? What for? (01)
Glint
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 13:00:56 (EST)
My two cents are:
BLOOMINGTON -- Khidhir Hamza was a member of the Iraqi elite -- part of Saddam Hussein's inner circle and the top official in the country's nuclear weapons program. Yet he and millions like him left their native land because they saw no hope.
"We gave up," Hamza said.
Now, Hamza is preparing to go back to Iraq in a month.
His return will probably be during wartime, and he goes back a defector who had to escape through the mountains of Turkey in 1994. But he goes home filled with hope, and he does it to help rebuild his country.
"There could be no change in Iraq without war," Hamza said at Illinois Wesleyan University on Thursday.
"It is impossible to change the system from within. Without an external force going in an uprooting the system, there is no way anyone has enough leverage to get rid of him."
Hamza admitted his opinion might not be popular with his mostly student audience. IWU students have used peace rallies and protests to question the justification for "Operation Iraqi Freedom."
Students say they aren't sure Hussein has nuclear, biological and chemical weapons. They're skeptical of the link between Iraq and al-Qaida.
Hamza told them not to be.
"Iraq has two technologies that can enrich uranium," he said. "And it is full of bases for training terrorists. The relationship to al-Qaida is an extensive, long-term kind of coordination."
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 13:00:12 (EST)
My two cents are:
Sure, Glint, that ought to draw ydog out. Except that he lives in Austin, you rube.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 12:58:48 (EST)
My two cents are:
SAN ANTONIO, April 4 (UPI) -- A San Antonio man who allegedly padlocked his wife to a 30-foot dog chain in the backyard was in jail himself Friday.
One end of the chain was padlocked to 45-year-old Patricia Thomason's neck, and the other end was attached to a car where her husband Jerry Thomason, 41, was sleeping when police arrested him Thursday at their home.
Firefighters used bolt cutters to remove the chain that was wrapped around the woman's neck and padlocked. She was treated and released later at a hospital. Police are not sure how long she had been chained up.
Neighbors said the bizarre situation began when the woman told her husband she wanted to leave him.
"He also had her in a cage, chained up in a cage, because he didn't want her to leave" neighbor Yolanda Esquivel told WOAI radio.
Another neighbor who asked that his name not be used said Thomason had "said before he'd keep her in a cage if he had to."
so they finally caught yellowdog
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 12:47:43 (EST)
My two cents are:
STFU? Oh, now I get it! Shut the Fuck Up. Nice try.
God
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 12:41:25 (EST)
My two cents are:
You'd think the miserable rube would be happy. It's Beer Friday.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 12:40:20 (EST)
My two cents are:
He hates Americans.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 12:39:02 (EST)
My two cents are:
What I like about the red post is how Glint deduces that 65% of the people were Clinton enablers.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 12:35:05 (EST)
My two cents are:
Red font still clinging to jism like a baby to a pacifier.
jism in the rubber vs blood in the streets
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 12:32:18 (EST)
My two cents are:
Too bad about Kelly. I figure it's Glint's fault for crowing about dead human shields. God is watching, Glint.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 12:30:10 (EST)
My two cents are:
Pete is probably one of the few iians who isn't proud. He probably views it as treason.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 12:29:25 (EST)
My two cents are:
REPORTEREDITOR MICHAEL KELLY DEAD IN IRAQ....
First Olson, now Kelly! Will the terrorists stop at nothing?
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 12:23:51 (EST)
My two cents are:
Hawaii Poised To Become First State To Officially Oppose Provisions Of Patriot Act...
so Pete has at least one thing to be proud about
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 12:19:46 (EST)
My two cents are:
Damn Braskens!
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 12:19:19 (EST)
My two cents are:
Like the Ornians? The Ylanders? The Skans? The Iians?
curious Pa grandmother
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 12:14:01 (EST)
My two cents are:
And the Reans.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 12:13:40 (EST)
My two cents are:
The Nese.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 12:13:07 (EST)
My two cents are:
Exactly. Like the Aqis. You know, the Abs.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 12:11:42 (EST)
My two cents are:
They're traitors to what exactly? Who are these foreignors?
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 12:08:39 (EST)
My two cents are:
You can take the clodhopping out of the clodhopper, but you can't take the clodhopper out of the clodhopping.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 12:08:19 (EST)
My two cents are:
Pino?
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 12:06:42 (EST)
My two cents are:
Bart Crols in Brussels, Andrew Hay in London, Erik Kirschbaum in Berlin, Patrick McLoughlin in Stockholm, Ron Popeski in Moscow, Carlos Santamaria in Madrid, Estelle Shirbon in Rome and Kevin Smith in Dublin
Mark these names on the list of godless Traitors.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 12:06:07 (EST)
My two cents are:
Yeah, but you see, the reporter who is in country can say he is in country. Glit, in Maryland, isn't in position to say the reporter is in country, for the simple reason that a listener could never be sure what country he's talking about. What Glit is doing is trying to adopt the lingo of the soldier or diplomat or other American with an official role in a foreign country; except that he's adopting the lingo of in-country television personalities adopting the lingo. When it gets so far removed from the authentic usage, a rube is bound to go wrong. It's as if he went to Harlem and commented on the "high-yallers" or asked the corner dealer for some "muggles." What we have here is a rube trying to pass himself off as something other than a rube. The essence of futility.
traveler
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 12:01:12 (EST)
My two cents are:
Bush Mix of God and War Grates on Many Europeans
Fri April 4, 2003 09:13 AM ET
By Tom Heneghan
PARIS (Reuters) - The religious overtones in President Bush's speeches increasingly grate on many ears in Europe, where leaders invoking God in times of war are widely suspect of misusing faith for political purposes.
No less than the German president, French prime minister and Belgian foreign minister have joined religious leaders in expressing concern about Bush's beliefs and the place of religion in U.S. politics.
Media commentators, especially in northern European countries with Protestant heritages, have branded Bush's evangelical views as Christian fundamentalism, with some even comparing them to the Islamic fundamentalism of Osama bin Laden.
The discussion reflects both the widespread popular anti-war sentiment in Europe and the deeper gulf between a continent where faith is on the wane and an America where religious values probably play a more prominent political role than ever before.
German President Johannes Rau, a Protestant preacher's son who makes no secret of his own faith, reacted sharply this week on n-tv television to press reports that Bush believed defeating Iraqi President Saddam Hussein was part of a divine plan.
"George Bush has got a completely one-sided message. I don't think a people gets a sign from God to liberate another people," he said. "Nowhere does the Bible call for crusades."
Belgian Foreign Minister Louis Michel, a vocal critic of the war, said before hostilities broke out last month that he saw Christian fundamentalism gaining influence in Washington and added: "That is, of course, a dangerous point of departure."
French Prime Minister Jean-Pierre Raffarin, asked about a U.S. weekly's cover story on Bush and God, told Le Point magazine: "In no way can God be called on for a vote of confidence."
UNEASE AT GOD TALK
Bush's firm faith, rooted in an evangelical Protestantism that reflects an important voter bloc in his Republican party, has also prompted questions in mainstream U.S. media about how much it colors his stand on Iraq and his war on terror.
In his speeches, he has asked for guidance from "the loving God behind all of life and all of history," hinted he believed there was a "divine plan" for the world and warned Americans that "we are in a conflict between good and evil."
These references may not seem so out of place in the United States, where all presidents say "God bless America" and "In God We Trust" is emblazoned on dollar bills.
But they stand out and sometimes even shock many Europeans who remember how German soldiers trooped off to World War One with "Gott mit uns" (God with us) stamped on their belt buckles.
"I believe George Bush's religious views are genuine," Cardinal Karl Lehmann, head of the German Bishop's Conference, told the Catholic weekly Rheinischer Merkur in an interview on Thursday. "But this careless way of using religious language is not acceptable anymore in today's world."
In Sweden, invoking God in politics is so unusual that parliamentarian Hans Lindqvist told Reuters: "I've never seen anything like this before."
Commentators in Britain, where Prime Minister Tony Blair's firm but discreet Christian beliefs have also aroused critical attention, have described Bush as "chaplain in chief" and analyzed his use of religious phrases and images in detail.
"For world-weary Europe, the presidential language evokes mirth and queasiness in equal measure," The Independent wrote.
In France, where even practicing Catholic or Jewish politicians shrink from mentioning religion, the daily Le Monde reacted sharply last week to the news that the U.S. House of Representatives had called for a day of national prayer and fasting to secure divine blessings for U.S. troops in Iraq.
"This bizarre approach shocks Europeans," it said in an editorial. Its religion correspondent accused Bush and Iraqi President Saddam Hussein of "gross misuse" of religion.
"One is tempted to say the destiny of America is in the hands of a small group of Protestant bigots," Henri Tincq wrote.
The religious side of Bush's thinking has attracted much less public attention in traditionally Catholic countries such as Ireland, Italy and Spain, where the Roman church has lost most of the vast influence it used to wield in secular affairs.
Media there have focused mostly on whether the Iraq conflict is a just war, sometimes quoting the pronounced anti-war stand of Pope John Paul II.
Russia, which in its old communist days might have churned out caustic criticism about the White House and "the opium of the people," has also shown little interest in Bush's beliefs.
"Politicians now routinely invoke God and Orthodoxy for all sorts of things," one longtime foreign resident remarked. "You can't open a billiard hall without an Orthodox priest present." (Additional reporting by Bart Crols in Brussels, Andrew Hay in London, Erik Kirschbaum in Berlin, Patrick McLoughlin in Stockholm, Ron Popeski in Moscow, Carlos Santamaria in Madrid, Estelle Shirbon in Rome and Kevin Smith in Dublin)
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=3UE15TWKENDMMCRBAE0CFEY?type=politicsNews&storyID=2509186
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 11:24:30 (EST)
My two cents are:
Well, I think the boy might have been questioning whay someone else was "in country," possibly a reporter or a Pino.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 11:18:23 (EST)
My two cents are:
Yet he has a problem with getting things exactly right. Doesn't know, for example, that you don't say "in country" unless you're in country. You can't use it from stateside. But, hey, the rube is trying.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 11:16:33 (EST)
My two cents are:
Well, Glint seems to perk up when a war is on. He gets to say stuff like, "in country."
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 11:09:47 (EST)
My two cents are:
I'm mustering my press-agents to the front to protect my beloved Snippy by claiming that the North Koreans already had atomic bombs so it doesn't matter if they start turning out on a month and, like every other weapon they've ever built, start selling them to the downtrodden.
But God didn't say anything to me about the North Koreans.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 10:57:52 (EST)
My two cents are:
Stop Twisting French Udders?
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 10:49:29 (EST)
My two cents are:
Sit Tight Fuck-Ups?
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 10:49:01 (EST)
My two cents are:
I'm proud of how far Glit has come. A couple of years ago he was fat, dumb, and happy in the face of the Iraqi threat. He sat contented on his lawn tractor, thinking of the country as just another Halliburton client, hardly ever even thinking of it or how many dead Marines and how much collateral dead Iraqi childhood it would take to hose out the Iraqi stables. Now he's all teeth and claws, a hopping mad all-American war puppy. Go, Glit, go!
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 10:47:03 (EST)
My two cents are:
Because he thinks it will drive up Snippy's numbers? Geesh, isn't that sort of "wag the dog?"
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 10:43:41 (EST)
My two cents are:
Glit thinks it's necessary. Today he thinks it's necessary because Iraq has some awful weapon. Yesterday he thought it was necessary to free the downtrodden Iraqi peasant. Tomorrow it's anyone's guess. What's the real reason? He thinks it will drive up Snippy's poll ratings?
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 10:41:50 (EST)
My two cents are:
He needs no encouragement. He actually believes this shit.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 10:40:07 (EST)
My two cents are:
Was this war necessary? Does anybody but the admirers of Snippy and the poor American asshole-in-the-street think so?
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 10:40:05 (EST)
My two cents are:
Bad night, Glint?
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 10:37:43 (EST)
My two cents are:
I often get a kick out of Glit's words. "Muster", for example. "They'll muster their ACLU types to the front...." How often do you hear that word? How often do you hear it used as a transitive verb, "muster to?" I'm going to muster my pundits to the op-ed page. I'm going to muster my ACLU types to the front to protect my beloved dictator. I guess heavy thoughts require heavy diction. I guess the man couldn't have said it without "muster." And mustering them "to the front" made it ever more true and meaningful. Stop dissing this Glit. Boy's one to watch. A man to encourage.
patriot
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 10:37:26 (EST)
My two cents are:
Good fantasy. Somebody believes Saddam doesn't have WMD? Who? What is STFU?
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 10:35:55 (EST)
My two cents are:
Hey Glint. You're dumb fuck. Do you really believe people like Saddam Hussein?
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 10:29:15 (EST)
My two cents are:
He's angry today.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 10:28:05 (EST)
My two cents are:
???
??
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 10:27:36 (EST)
My two cents are:
That's right. You've got lips locked tight around the Saddamite.
Glint
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 10:25:35 (EST)
My two cents are:
Ohhh, is THAT what happened? I see.
rube's gone round the bend
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 10:15:38 (EST)
My two cents are:
I guess the bloody font is because the rube thinks this one is special. Or maybe he really thinks the "history" that will repeat itself actually happened. What a dumb-ass rube.
Sigh
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 10:07:15 (EST)
My two cents are:
Weird. Creative History.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 10:01:09 (EST)
My two cents are:
I predict history is going to repeat itself. Back in the bygone days of Clinton you had the enablers demanding proof. "It's unsubstantiated, just he-said she-said - nothing more. If you don't have any pictures or a rubber full of jism you shouldn't be taking serious the deluded school girl dreams of that woman Monica Lewinsky! Of course if there was jism - which there isn't and will never be, well, that would certainly be verrrrrry serious indeed. But there's not, so just STFU!" Now they've supplanted Clinton with Saddam. "We have no right to invade Iraq, because there is no evidence of WMD except in the schoolboy mind of George Bush. Of course if there really were WMD that would be a verrrrrry big deal indeed. But Hans and the frogs say there's not, so just STFU!" I imagine that once Saddam, if he is still alive, is captured, and if there are any WMD still in the country, and if they are discovered, then the Liberals will change their tune. They'll muster their ACLU types to the front to protect their beloved dictator by claiming that the evidence was obtained in an illegal search and that the charges should be dropped. Maybe Johnny Runningcock can find a glove that doesn't fit Saddams hand. The bottom line is the Looney LIberal Left has found a new remedy to placate their oral gratification: Saddam! - Friday, April 04, 2003 at 09:58:34 (EST)
My two cents are:
Pop-tarts don't count as sweets?
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 09:34:18 (EST)
My two cents are:
Did he give up ALL the sweets? Even the Nerds? Even the Tootsie-Pops?
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 09:33:38 (EST)
My two cents are:
People who know Bush well say the strain of war is palpable. He rarely jokes with staffers these days and occasionally startles them with sarcastic putdowns. He's being hard on himself; he gave up sweets just before the war began. He's frustrated when armchair generals or members of his own team express doubts about U.S. military strategy. At the same time, some of his usual supporters are concerned by his insistence on sticking with the original war plan.... He's got that steely-eyed look, but he is burdened," says a friend who has spent time with the president since the war began. "You can see it in his eyes and hear it in his voice. I worry about him."... News coverage of the war often irritates him. He's infuriated by reporters and retired generals who publicly question the tactics of the war plan.... Bush's schedule still includes meetings on matters unrelated to the war, many of them on the economy, but the meetings are shorter now.
maybe he should eat some chocolate
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 01:27:07 (EST)
My two cents are:
If our military budget was $400 billion while Iraq's was $1.4 billion shouldn't be too difficult determining who will win this one.
there's no business like war business
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 01:04:34 (EST)
My two cents are:
Clinton's points had legs too. None of this soaring to the top with each new disaster, then crashing down once everyone calms down.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 00:05:53 (EST)
My two cents are:
America Prefers "Impeached" Clinton to "Wartime" Bush
Newsweek reports Bush's approval rating at a sad 66% - a full seven points lower for the "popular wartime preznit" than Clinton's approval rating the day after "impeachment."
That must be so embarrassing.
Anonymous.
- Friday, April 04, 2003 at 00:01:15 (EST)
My two cents are:
A color picture of Pete's suicide? Sad, really.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 23:46:13 (EST)
My two cents are:
Woolsey will be backing democracy in America sometime soon?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 23:44:00 (EST)
My two cents are:
"As we move toward a new Middle East," Woolsey said, "over the years and, I think, over the decades to come ... we will make a lot of people very nervous." It will be America's backing of democratic movements throughout the Middle East that will bring about this sense of unease, he said. "Our response should be, 'good!'" Woolsey said
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 23:13:40 (EST)
My two cents are:
World War IV, huh? This guy is what? Some sort of visionary? The fool will be long dead before none of what he predicts happens.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 23:12:19 (EST)
My two cents are:
Sheeit, if you think Snippy's stirring up the Arabs is going to be long-term bad, wait until you see fifty years of economy based on the little shit bankrupting the country.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 23:09:24 (EST)
My two cents are:
Ex-CIA director: U.S. faces 'World War IV'
From Charles Feldman and Stan Wilson
CNN
Thursday, April 3, 2003 Posted: 5:02 PM EST (2202 GMT)
LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- Former CIA Director James Woolsey said Wednesday the United States is engaged in World War IV, and that it could continue for years.
In the address to a group of college students, Woolsey described the Cold War as the third world war and said "This fourth world war, I think, will last considerably longer than either World Wars I or II did for us. Hopefully not the full four-plus decades of the Cold War."
Woolsey has been named in news reports as a possible candidate for a key position in the reconstruction of a postwar Iraq.
He said the new war is actually against three enemies: the religious rulers of Iran, the "fascists" of Iraq and Syria, and Islamic extremists like al Qaeda.
Woolsey told the audience of about 300, most of whom are students at the University of California at Los Angeles, that all three enemies have waged war against the United States for several years but the United States has just "finally noticed."
"As we move toward a new Middle East," Woolsey said, "over the years and, I think, over the decades to come ... we will make a lot of people very nervous."
It will be America's backing of democratic movements throughout the Middle East that will bring about this sense of unease, he said.
"Our response should be, 'good!'" Woolsey said.
Singling out Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and the leaders of Saudi Arabia, he said, "We want you nervous. We want you to realize now, for the fourth time in a hundred years, this country and its allies are on the march and that we are on the side of those whom you -- the Mubaraks, the Saudi Royal family -- most fear: We're on the side of your own people."
Woolsey, who served as CIA director under President Bill Clinton, was taking part in a "teach-in" at UCLA, a series of such forums at universities across the nation.
A group calling itself "Americans for Victory Over Terrorism" sponsors the teach-ins, and the Bruin Republicans, UCLA's campus Republicans organization, co-sponsored Wednesday night's event.
The group was founded by former Education Secretary William Bennett, who took part in Wednesday's event along with Paul Bremer, a U.S. ambassador during the Reagan administration and the former chairman of the National Commission on Terrorism.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 22:50:16 (EST)
My two cents are:
It's always been about the next phase, pineapple, and the phase after that. It's always been about unleashing the Wilds, not about Iraq or Saddam (although I'd like to know your "exit strategy" on that one too.) Bush, himself, is but a temporary danger who, unfortunately, will cause permanent harm. In two years, when he goes back to the comfort of his couch and TV, bowl of pretzels nearby, your A-rab hordes will still be exacting a constant, ugly vengeance for Snippy's Folly. Define "winning."
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 20:52:29 (EST)
My two cents are:
I think Pete's frothing just because he feels he should live up to his image. His heart doesn't seem to be in it. Hasn't been, really, since about three years ago, when he first realized he was hopelessly outclassed.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 20:44:50 (EST)
My two cents are:
Yup, Saddam got her between the eyes.
Eeewww
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 20:31:48 (EST)
My two cents are:
Isn't that the frog chick reporter?
Can't be a Chirac-a-shot.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 20:31:25 (EST)
My two cents are:
No more Socialists allowed!
Let's storm Boston too!
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 20:30:45 (EST)
My two cents are:
Good shot!
Non-Traitor
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 20:30:01 (EST)
My two cents are:
Eeewww.
thats the ticket!
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 20:29:16 (EST)
My two cents are:
E
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 20:28:57 (EST)
My two cents are:
Bloodlust for Eeewwwlinor?
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 20:28:43 (EST)
My two cents are:
Good catch Pete at March 26, 2003 at 13:36:33
ahead of his time
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 20:26:38 (EST)
My two cents are:
touch. E!
lie-bra-l fewl
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 20:24:53 (EST)
My two cents are:
No, it is bloodlust.
fewl
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 20:13:13 (EST)
My two cents are:
...but is it bloodless?
just wondering
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 20:06:13 (EST)
My two cents are:
Stupid liberal traitors = stupid liberal koo-koos = stupid liberal insane = stupid liberal coup-coups
grow a brain stoopid!!!
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 20:01:54 (EST)
My two cents are:
Yes, watch everyone. Watch very clearly. Watch very carefully. Watch how the treasonous lying socialist liberals will now start to shift their negative criticisms to the next phase. Watch how they say we didn't win enough eharts and minds. Watch them try desperately to find any nook and cranny to wedge in a criticism of Bush or anythiong non-liberal treasonous demonrat. Watch how they take up the crusade of the Syrian/Iranian terrorists and threaten the US. Watch treason within this country. Watch the liberals. Never turn your back on one. They are sick, lying, treasonous scumbag socialsits. They are the true enemies of America. POW!!!
Pete�
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 19:59:54 (EST)
My two cents are:
Christ, we are killing more of our own guys with our own accidents and mistakes than the whole dang 4th largest army in the world. Bring on the koreans.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 19:56:40 (EST)
My two cents are:
Have we won the hearts and minds of the Baghdadois yet? I don't get the cable.
Clyde Harrington
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 19:55:36 (EST)
My two cents are:
I think you struck a nerve. Note the collapse.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 19:53:36 (EST)
My two cents are:
Parden my ignorance. What is a liberal coup-coups? Is it bloodless?
wondering in aliceland
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 19:52:30 (EST)
My two cents are:
Thanks anon for confimring that Pete is funny in a sly, ironic, sophisticated, urbane, intellectual way....
doink
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 19:51:42 (EST)
My two cents are:
The Lumbering Lummox of Twat.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 19:51:37 (EST)
My two cents are:
No, cowardly liberal socialsit traitor cdemonrat Anonymous at 19:47:49, if I really wanted to hear something that pathetic, I'd listen to you. Not.
Pete� <[email protected]>
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 19:50:46 (EST)
My two cents are:
True, he thinks it's funny, but funny in a sly, ironic, sophisticated, urbane, intellectual way. If you really wanted to hear something that pathetic.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 19:47:49 (EST)
My two cents are:
He thinks that "coup coup" thing is funny. It's like, geesh, ma, I thought it up all by myself! Aren't you proud of me?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 19:46:22 (EST)
My two cents are:
Why, yes, the fat, ugly, unloved rat terriers do.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 19:44:41 (EST)
My two cents are:
So, what you're saying is rat terriers spend a lot of time biting their own tails?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 19:43:54 (EST)
My two cents are:
Pete, The Chief Lummox of Truth.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 19:43:25 (EST)
My two cents are:
Pete, a legend in his own mind.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 19:42:10 (EST)
My two cents are:
Lieberman, for all his faults, is probably a decent, honest man. He should have known better than to go in without at least a zip gun and a shiv to battle a lying thug.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 19:41:08 (EST)
My two cents are:
Of course he'll be back. After all, he's a regular rat terrior watchdog protecting patriotic fgaters from any liberals on this page.
carry on little warrior
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 19:39:10 (EST)
My two cents are:
No, Pete appears as he sees fit to unleash the truth on the unsuspecting liberal coup-coups.
Pete�
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 19:36:56 (EST)
My two cents are:
Bush's "bungling of the economy?" You might call it bungling. The dictionary would call it looting.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 19:31:31 (EST)
My two cents are:
I miss Pete. Is he going to come back and froth at the mouth some more?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 19:29:41 (EST)
My two cents are:
The great Leiberman-Cheney debate looked pretty much like a push to me, if you discount the fact that Lieberman was mostly right and Cheney was wrong. The sad thing about it was that Lieb didn't call Big Dick when he lied about making his millions "without any help from the government." It's the general unwillingness of our press and politicians to point out politicians' lies that permits the sort of government we are subjected to today, and which has allowed the development of a class of ignorant yahoo "conservatives" like Pete and Glint, who wouldn't know conservativism if it came up and bit them on the ass.
patriot
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 19:28:01 (EST)
My two cents are:
I'd say that 9% are probably Democrats who lied about being Republicans claiming to oppose the war.
DEMOCRATS are ALL liars!
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 19:11:37 (EST)
My two cents are:
Richard Cheney. Aka "Dick" and "Mr. Vice President." Ripped open a new one on Lieberman's backside during the vice presidential debates. Lieberman should have known better than to go defenseless into a battle of wits.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 18:52:17 (EST)
My two cents are:
Richard Cheney. Aka "Dick" and "Mr. Vice President." Former CEO of Halliburton, currently Vice-president of the United States.
Wanted for: serial use of offshore tax shelters; overstating Halliburton revenue by $100 million; doing $73 million worth of post-gulf war business with Saddam Hussein, then denying it; overseeing Halliburton's consistent overbilling of the Pentagon (a habit that led to $2 million in fines); helping to systematically gut decades-worth of environmental protections; and fighting tooth and nail to keep secret the records of his very-energy-industry-friendly energy task force.
Identifying marks include a distinctive sideways smirk, and an implantable cardioverter defibrillator (a device the size of an electronic garage door opener) embedded in his chest. Hide-outs: his secure, undisclosed location and GOP fundraisers.
Known Associates: Ken Lay, anyone with a campaign donation for the GOP, and little buddy George W. Bush.
crimestoppers textbook
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 18:28:21 (EST)
My two cents are:
I understood that! You are doomed.
God
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 18:12:55 (EST)
My two cents are:
A lot of Bush's problems, spike aside, seem to be the result of his bungling of the economy. There's not one positive poll to cherry pick. Each is worse than the last.The bandy-legged little drunk is in deep doo-doo. Not today, not this week, maybe not even this month. But, his "support" is soft, soft, soft and seems dependent on endless war. But endless war is also a loser in the long run. The guy is, in fact, phuct.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 17:59:51 (EST)
My two cents are:
Didn't Bush I have 95% during his war? What's the deal here? Why has treason advanced to far? Was it the example set by Trent Lott? Does real treason beget the treason that is merely non-support of a stupid politician?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 17:57:24 (EST)
My two cents are:
I chose Zogby just to satisfy the rubes. They worship Zogby. But, shit! Zogby's numbers show a world of shit for Snip.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 17:54:51 (EST)
My two cents are:
Does that mean that only 9% of Republicans are traitors?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 17:53:21 (EST)
My two cents are:
It's called a spike, Glub. That's all. Seen it before. Not much of a spike at that.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 17:53:01 (EST)
My two cents are:
You're just cherry-picking the polls for the cases where the citizenry have figured out that Bush is a moron and his friends are crooks. Why not post the polls that support him? 91% of Republicans support the war, for example.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 17:51:58 (EST)
My two cents are:
"Right now, do you think that economic conditions in the country as a whole are getting better or getting worse?"
Better 33% Worse 56% Same 9% No opinion 2%.
Gallup 3/31/03
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 17:51:21 (EST)
My two cents are:
As usual the traitors are in the minority. Thankfully a majority of true blue red county Americans remains in power.
Glint
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 17:50:42 (EST)
My two cents are:
All right! Bring on the next bunch of evil ones! Time to avenge Pork Chop Hill!
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 17:48:52 (EST)
My two cents are:
CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll. Latest: March 14-15, 2003. N=1,007 adults nationwide. MoE � 3.
"How would you rate economic conditions in this country today -- as very good, somewhat good, somewhat poor, or very poor?"
Very Good 2% Some-what Good 33% Some-what Poor 39% Very
Poor 25%
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 17:48:38 (EST)
My two cents are:
One thing we know: with minimal casualties we can kick the crap out of a poordevil army with obsolete equipment as long as he has nothing to hide behind.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 17:47:35 (EST)
My two cents are:
They'll all support the Snip when Saddam "topples." Nothing like toppling a guy to earn the support of your countrymen and, yea, of the wide world.
patriot
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 17:43:54 (EST)
My two cents are:
Two in three voters (67%) support the war being waged against Saddam Hussein; 31% oppose. Support is strongest in the Central/Great Lakes region (72%-27%), as well as in the South (69%-28%) and West (69%-30%). While 58% support in the East, 41% are opposed. Greatest support is among Republicans (91%-8%), while only 46% of Democrats are supportive and 52% are opposed. Independents support the war 69% to 30%.
Still, a thrilling majority for killing Snippy's enemies!
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 17:41:24 (EST)
My two cents are:
Had to bring up the error band, didn't you, traitor? Well, yeah, as a matter of fact the 3% "bounce" is irrelevant.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 17:41:15 (EST)
My two cents are:
The good news is Bush now bags 51% against an unspecified Democrat. That's a war bounce of 7%!
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 17:39:15 (EST)
My two cents are:
3%? Is that within the error band?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 17:34:36 (EST)
My two cents are:
Zogby International America Poll and Reuters/Zogby Poll. Bush -- Job Rating: 3/24/03.Excellent/Good 57% Fair/Poor 43%.
3% bump for starting a war.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 17:33:03 (EST)
My two cents are:
That guy sounds like a veteran of liberal wars, though. WWII probably, maybe Korea. This isn't a liberal war, it's a troglodyte war, a war for oil and contracts and the perks of a few over the rights and the hopes of the many. Any soft bleeding-heart liberal can serve in a war against someone like Hitler, a dangerous weasel killer on the loose. It takes toughness though, to go out and grab another country's resources for yourself, which is what the Bush War is about. More than anything else, after all it's supposed reasons have been put forth or sent up as trial balloons, this war is the use of the American military, the Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marine Corps, to directly enrich a few select persons by forcing access to another country's oil. Poor, pathetic, lard-brained Pete thinks that this is somehow going to trickle down on him, that he will get something out of it. But he's not. All that he's going to do is lose more money, as he has since the day Bush was inaugurated. It is probably a subconscious realization of this banal reality that is making the poor sap froth at the mouth today.
patriot
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 17:14:41 (EST)
My two cents are:
"From One Bomb, A Swarm of Tank Killers"
Smarter Cluster Bombs Against Iraqi Tanks -
April 3 � If any Iraqi soldiers had looked up at the right moment, they would only have seen the contrail of a B-52.
The crew of that plane, we are told, dropped what looked like a fairly standard 1,000-pound bomb.
But this particular one, dubbed the CBU-105, is seeing its first action ever in combat, and according to the U.S. Air Force, it is especially deadly.
"It's a fearsome weapon," said John Pike, the head of globalsecurity.org and an ABC NEWS consultant. "If an armored convoy is moving down a road, an attack by this cluster bomb unit would basically stop that armored assault in its tracks."
As the bomb falls, it splits open in midair � and releases 10 smaller units, each of which descends under a small white parachute.
As they approach the ground, those units split as well, each one ejecting four armor-piercing explosives.
The result, say sources: one bomb drop causes 40 explosions, spread out over 15 acres or more.
The CBU-105 is a heat-seeking weapon. Its sensors look for engines of tanks, personnel carriers and other sources of high temperature. As the bombs descend, they can be steered by small fins, to get closer to their targets, and to counteract the force of the wind. The bombs are less sophisticated than weapons guided by satellites or lasers, but analysts say they can do a lot more damage.
"With a cluster bomb like this," says Pike, "a single B-52 can destroy an entire armored division, whereas in the past you had to send out dozens of airplanes that might have to drop hundreds of bombs to achieve the same effect."
U.S. forces capture Saddam International Airport near Baghdad.
President Bush tells cheering Marines at Camp Lejeune, N.C., "Our destination is Baghdad, and we will accept nothing less than complete and final victory."
Power goes out in much of Baghdad, though U.S. Central Command says it has not targeted the city's power grid.
One U.S. soldier was killed in a possible friendly fire incident involving an F-15E fighter jet, U.S. military officials say.
U.S. Special Forces raid one of Saddam Hussein's palaces near Baghdad, taking documents and suffering no casualties, U.S. officials say.
Heat-seeking cluster bombs have been in development for two decades. They were originally designed with Soviet tanks in mind. The original versions were to be dropped from fighter-bombers, flying at low altitude to evade enemy radar.
But with the collapse of the Soviet Union, the mission changed. The U.S. military expected to be fighting adversaries that had less air power. The bombs were reconfigured to be dropped from higher altitudes, since radar was less of a threat, but anti-aircraft fire remained.
"This is basically a Cold-War weapon that has finally found a post-Cold-War application," said Pike.
The weapons were controversial when they were first discussed, because of their potential to cause indiscriminate damage over such a large area. The Defense Department says the new version, though, is a "smarter" weapon, only to be used when the risk to civilians is small.
The Air Force says it dropped six of the bombs on the first run. There is no saying yet how they did.
no pictures yet of the carnage, but no doubt it's been brutal
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 17:06:50 (EST)
My two cents are:
I'll be sure to tell the liberal veteran that served in 3 wars that he's weak. So tell us how you're doing the 'strong' thing. Maybe boycotting french toast, french fries, french bread, wienerschnitzel?
I'm so impressed with such a fine warrior
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 16:57:07 (EST)
My two cents are:
We toppled Saddam? I thought the guy died two weeks ago.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 16:48:23 (EST)
My two cents are:
The war is over? Dang, I missed the finish!
Clyde Harrington
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 16:46:46 (EST)
My two cents are:
They already named an airstrip down south for Snippy. This one might as well be named Halliburton International and cut out the middle-man.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 16:46:13 (EST)
My two cents are:
I see the fat boy is frothing again.
Grommet
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 16:43:21 (EST)
My two cents are:
This airport thing is bad news. It means we might be closer to toppling Saddam. Then when Saddam's gone the world may view the war as just and there we'll be still standing at the plate without a bat.
Lberalz
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 16:42:47 (EST)
My two cents are:
Pete, your standards of proof are too high. Way up there at the right-wing talk radio line!
Troglodyte but not Stupid
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 16:42:19 (EST)
My two cents are:
Millions of documents detailing alleged atrocities during Saddam Hussein's reign in Iraq will likely be moving from the University of Colorado due to budget cuts.
No future home has been chosen.
CU librarian Bruce Montgomery has protected the collection of more than 5.5 million documents of the alleged atrocities for nearly five years.
Kurdish rebels stormed Iraqi government offices and seized the documents at the end of the 1991 Persian Gulf War, Montgomery said.
"At first they were interested in finding out who among them were snitches," Montgomery said. "Then they started realizing that these could be used in trials if the Iraqi leaders were ever prosecuted."
He said the collection includes pictures of some of the victims of the alleged atrocities.
"I couldn't understand the Arabic, but I could still see what was in the photos," he said. "Some have official seals of secret police or presidential seals. Most of the documents are handwritten."
lets see if the liebrals now try to destroy the evidence. Expected.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 16:42:00 (EST)
My two cents are:
??????
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- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 16:40:01 (EST)
My two cents are:
Ha Ha Ha. I know a guy who has a large family, who runs a village and they have a friend who knows a guy who's sister was in the military and that guys's sister's other friend once saw a bent pencil dick draft dodger say an un-American utterance once. Proves SQUAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bring in the Raid for these pests
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 16:39:04 (EST)
My two cents are:
Liberal brainwashing extends to the hearts and minds of many. Too bad they are so weak. Don't worry, the strong will have to carry your load. Just stay indoors, close the blinds and retreat from reality. It is what you liberals do best. The rest of America knows the score now and are nno longer buying your BS. Knowing some uneducated hick former military maens nothing. I know Iraqis who are damn happy this is coming about. I'd work on your gullibility and inane willingness to compromise the truth for sick power perverts. You people are toasted. Done. Gone. Out.
Pete�
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 16:36:53 (EST)
My two cents are:
That's ok Pete. We don't want you to be one of us. I have relatives who happen to be liberals who also happen to be veterans. Some of them don't support this war. Also know a pilot who is not in favor of war with Iraq but still does whatever he has to do. Jeesh, do you suppose any of the soldiers are of liberal bent? Surely you don't believe that all servicemen/women are in the Armed Forces only because of patriotism. More than a few chose the military in order to get some of the benefits in regards to education. But war got in the way.
now snippy want to take away some of those benefits
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 16:14:09 (EST)
My two cents are:
No, only liberals think they are superiod. Most conservatives who are God-fearing place God above them. Personally, as an independent, I can question God and existence (infinity too) without running afoul of the limits placed by either side. But, i will never ever ever be a liberal demonrat. DELUSIONAL LIARS, one and all! No-siree!
Pete�
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 16:03:11 (EST)
My two cents are:
Looks like Saddam Airport now becomes George W. Bush Hero International Airport. Good Work Heroes! Fuck the liebrals!
Pete�
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 16:01:13 (EST)
My two cents are:
Interesting how conservatives believe they are on high moral ground and all liberals abide in swampland.
boggles the mind
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 16:00:15 (EST)
My two cents are:
Liberals: not strict or literal. Not conforming to convention. Loose.
Fits
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 15:57:44 (EST)
My two cents are:
Hey, I got an idea! Maybe a troglodyte should write a textbook! Go for it, Pete! Not you, Glint. Sorry. The perversion thing. You understand.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 15:45:38 (EST)
My two cents are:
Another shitty student takes a shot.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 15:43:29 (EST)
My two cents are:
We all know who writes modern American textbooks.
socialists
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 15:39:38 (EST)
My two cents are:
Someone has really gone round the bend to bend their delusions into definitions. Lierally. Ha!
The Demonrats are now failed politically-driven socialist traitors going coup-coup.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 15:38:36 (EST)
My two cents are:
Liberal: ...generous, abundant, lavish, broadminded, tolerant, enlightened, charitable among others. Not bad, eh?
Conservative: ...stingy, miserly, reactionary, regressive, bigoted, prejudiced, biased, narrow-minded and more. Ouch!
sounds good to me
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 15:37:19 (EST)
My two cents are:
Yes, indeed. The Demonrats are now failed politically-driven socialist traitors going coup-coup.
Pete�
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 15:34:47 (EST)
My two cents are:
15:01 "wishes" it were so, but alas the truth always eludes these traitors. Funny, really, to watch the demonrats implode. No one listens to these cretins any more. They are as marginalized as the Iraqi military. A Few pot shots from Fedayeen like these tirds on here, a few communist-inspired anti-American rallies there, but hey, the silent vast majority knows the score now. They will no longer listen to the lies of the left. Back to the sewers where you traitors belong. You are a failed troups of nutso coup mongers going coup-coup.
Pete�
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 15:33:21 (EST)
My two cents are:
Anyone up for some dictionary definitions of liberal? There are quite a few dictionaries that haven't been posted yet!
Grommet
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 15:26:01 (EST)
My two cents are:
I'm with Glit. I just can't believe that there are people who wouldn't support the Commander-in-Chief in time of conflict!
Trent Lott
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 15:24:05 (EST)
My two cents are:
I, too, was shocked by the headline dump. Shocked and dismayed. How can there be people who don't love our bandy-legged little drunk child-fearing ruler? Glint, do you think we should start a support group for guys like us? Guys who have looked through the chocolate hole?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 15:22:18 (EST)
My two cents are:
Syria? No, no, you've got it all wrong. The Bush family licks Syria's ass. Goes with the territory. No swiffering for Syria. Maybe some bluster, but no real action. That ass tastes too good to the Bush family.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 15:19:38 (EST)
My two cents are:
The Associated Press
Thursday, April 3, 2003; 9:23 AM
A National Guard battalion commander is being relieved of his command for running naked outside the barracks at Fort Bragg.
Lt. Col. J.D. Webster was one of several soldiers seen streaking on Feb. 18, the military said.
Maj. Gen. Zannie O. Smith, acting commander of the 18th Airborne Corps and Fort Bragg, has told Webster he intends to take away his job as commander of the 1st Battalion of the 130th Aviation Regiment, an Apache attack helicopter unit.
Final action will be taken after the officers have been offered a chance to give a rebuttal.
Smith also issued written reprimands to Webster and another officer, said Maj. Gary Tallman, a Fort Bragg spokesman.
An acting commander has been appointed for the battalion, Tallman said.
Webster declined to comment through a spokesman.
More liberal slime.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 15:17:06 (EST)
My two cents are:
Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 15:16:31 (EST)
My two cents are:
This war really is about housecleaning and next on the agenda we're going to swiffer Iran, Syria.
forget about any bush dustballs under the bed
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 15:12:18 (EST)
My two cents are:
Buzzflash headline dumping at 22:47 was an eye opener. A curious naked un-retouchedsnapshot of the cesspool of garbage filth and hatred masquerading as contemporary Liberal thought. High level view of world viewed from the chocolate hole. (01)
Glint
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 15:10:14 (EST)
My two cents are:
Well, you'll have to admit that Bush did get the crew from the crash-landed spy airplane back.
W Fan Club
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 15:07:04 (EST)
My two cents are:
Who the hell is defending him? You are so lame if you can't seem to understand that this country also needs some housecleaning.
clean our own house before we attempt to clean others
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 15:04:28 (EST)
My two cents are:
Right! We don't like dictionaries, and we can pretend that liberal means bad instead of good and that disaster is accomplishment.
you're getting the idea, fuzzy liberals
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 15:04:02 (EST)
My two cents are:
Accomplishments? He's looted the treasury, creating a huge deficit that will increase costs of capitalization and retard growth into the forseeable future, he has thrown the economy into an intractable recession, he has taken productive capicity and blown it up in Iraq, he has substantially reduced the rights of citizens at home, he has created enemies abroad and stirred up a mess in the middle east that will bring nothing but horror and terrorism to all, he has sparked a nuclear arms race in asia, sheeit, the list goes on and on. These things are considered accomplishments by the few men who will make short-term money from them, the Cheney/Bush/Kenny Boy types; because these men control the propaganda apparatus of the Republican Party, they are likewise seen as accomplishments by meek and weak untutored hangers-on like poor Pete and unwholesome Glint. So I guess it's all in the definitions.
Grommet
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 15:01:32 (EST)
My two cents are:
Wrong, but typical rhetoric from the delusional left. Removing Saddam is a duty of free loving honest, virtuous civilized human beings. Leaving him in power and finding indefensible reasons to defend him are not. Same with Cliton. Same with Demonrats. Same old same old. Traitors. Next.
Pete�
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 14:59:02 (EST)
My two cents are:
What accomplishments??? We think we can tell another country how to behave. What about this country. Read the newspapers. Everyday you can read of horrific events. Kids being killed either in their homes or a foster home, rampant gang warfare where innocent people are also killed or maimed, husbands killing wives, wives killing husbands...the list goes on and on. So this kind of killing is more acceptable than when a dictator does it?
try getting your own head out of the sand
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 14:53:11 (EST)
My two cents are:
They's naysayers, is what they are!
Rube
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 14:42:19 (EST)
My two cents are:
Bush's accomplishments?
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 14:41:17 (EST)
My two cents are:
Yeah, 14:17's agenda is just like every other treasonous liberal: find any way possible to naysay Bush's accomplishments. It is all about these traitor's political agenda. Always is with demonrats. That is why they are the enemy of truth. every single time.
Pete�
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 14:34:29 (EST)
My two cents are:
The economy is not getting worse for the companies who land the rebuild contracts, nor is it getting worse for the bankers in the Cook Islands. Halliburton ought to do pretty well, and the oil extractors down Texas way haven't been hurt by the doubled gas prices. Who ever said that a Bush economy wasn't a money tree?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 14:28:02 (EST)
My two cents are:
I read it. I read everything.
Glint
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 14:25:03 (EST)
My two cents are:
It's neat that Glint became conscious of Ramsey Clark this year. How did it happen? I forget. Must have been some garbled Rush whine that didn't quite punch into the gray matter. Now our boy is picking up some milage dissing Ramsey, not knowing that he deep-ended along about 1970 and hasn't been taken seriously by anyone but the gurney-dwellers since. When is Glint going to take on Donald DeFreeze? The Guru Maharaj Ji? With the rube duking it out with Ramsey Clark and the crybaby haole duking it out with Barbara Streisand, there should be belly-laughs for the whole crew! Stay tuned.
traveler
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 14:22:19 (EST)
My two cents are:
Ok, so protesting the war is like spitting into the wind, it's a done deal. So what happens when it comes to rebuilding a war torn country? We're out of money, in debt, and economy is getting worse and worse. We're in a bit of a tiff with United Kingdom and United Nations about who's going to control oil sales when warring stops...if it ever does. Most Arabs don't want us there, think we're the seed of the devil. But listening to Snippy, it's like happy days are gonna be here again when/if he gets rid of the tyrannical sadistic leader of Iraq. Are we to believe that other dictators over there want a successful free Iraq? Why do people in the Middle East think of Saddam as a hero? Is it because he thumbed his nose at us after the Gulf War, didn't play suck-up like other dictators over there?
questions, questions, in aliceland
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 14:17:36 (EST)
My two cents are:
Does anyone here actually read urinefont?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 14:15:43 (EST)
My two cents are:
You mean impeachment is political????
geesh
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 14:13:01 (EST)
My two cents are:
The Creative History buff checks in.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 14:11:44 (EST)
My two cents are:
It's such a hoot how Liberals are so excited over impeachment. You've got Ramsy Clark getting moist and cranking out articles. Only problem is there are no high crimes this time around. Not even any hint of Mr. Meeners either. They are so desperate they will clamor at anything and old codgers like Clark are coming out of the woodwork because they have no new talent. (01)
Glint
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 14:09:46 (EST)
My two cents are:
It's always the shitty students who play the "Never-persuaded-by-the-lies-of-the-left" card.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 14:07:48 (EST)
My two cents are:
Pete, you're just a mediocre guy with no common sense and no education you ever understood. You are also such an obvious liar that it is a wonder you keep at it-- you must be called on it daily, unless you spend your days oozing beer sweat in a lonely Salvation Army chair in front of a television set. You are right to set yourself at the level of high-school dropout actors. Do battle with them, fat man! We've been waiting for someone who can go head to head with Barbera Streisand! You da man, you poor, disgusting asshole.
patriot
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 14:05:24 (EST)
My two cents are:
So, you didn't pay attention to your teachers? Why is it that I'm not surprised?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 14:02:00 (EST)
My two cents are:
The truth is, I make politics a study. Majored in college. Spent work on a grad degree in Political Philosophy. Then Law. Spent quite a few years in the halls of liberal academia. Never persuaded by the lies of the left. It all adds up to a decision to follow the views of high school drop out actors and failed socialsits or those who actually studied and act what they opine about. Feel free to pick. No one is forcing you to accept the truth you ignore. Next liebral idiot please.
Pete�
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 13:50:11 (EST)
My two cents are:
Someone said, "What pisses me off is these animists whose holy days are random." That reminded me of the following article from an issue of the C.C. Times I brought back with me from my time travels into the future.
Glint
Many annual events that we celebrate, such as birthdays, occur on
a specific calendar date. New Years Day is always on January 1.
Independence Day is July 4. Traditionally, the only national
holiday whose date changed from year to year was Thanksgiving which
is pegged to the fourth Thursday in November.
Several traditional holidays are now observed on Mondays and so
their dates vary from year to year. Memorial Day, Labor Day,
Columbus Day, President's Day, and MLK's birthday are all Monday
holidays.
Although their dates change from one year to the next, the Monday
and Thursday holidays always occur about the same week each year.
Merchants find the Monday holidays particularly useful for their
annual three-day weekend sales events. However, Easter bucks the
system.
Easter can occur in March or April. The date is determined
astronomically from the positions of the earth and moon in relation
to the sun.
Traditionally Easter is said to occur on the first Sunday, after
the first full moon, following the vernal or spring equinox. The
vernal equinox marks the start of spring and may occur on March 19,
20, or 21 in our currently used Gregorian Calendar.
For simplicity the astronomical vernal equinox is ignored in the
formula used for calculating Easter. The equinox is assumed to be
March 21. That means that Easter depends primarily on determining
when the next full moon - known as the "Paschal Moon" - occurs.
Technically the astronomical definition of "full moon" isn't used
either. Instead the "ecclesiastical" full moon used is defined as
the 14th day of lunation, or 14 days past new. New Moon is
determined by what is called the "Metonic cycle" which is named
after the Greek philosopher Meton of Athens. (The Metonic cycle is
approximately 19 years in length.)
According to Guy Ottewell in his Astronomical Calendar, if March 21
is a Saturday and the Paschal Moon falls on that day then Easter
comes earliest - on March 22. On the other hand, if April 18 is a
Sunday and the Paschal Moon falls on that day, then Easter will
come at its latest - on April 25.
Once the date of Easter has been calculated, then the other related
dates of observation can also be pegged. These include Good
Friday, Maundy Thursday, Ash Wednesday, Shrove or Fat Tuesday, and
the season of Lent.
The first Easter coincided with the Jewish Passover. In subsequent
years Easter was celebrated on the Sunday which followed Passover.
The Jewish Calendar was reformed several hundred years later. In
1582 the Roman Catholic Church replaced the Julian Calendar with
the Gregorian Calendar and thus the two religious holidays are now
more or less independent.
The association of Easter with the Passover and the Passover in
turn based on astronomical criteria leads to an interesting
question: Is it possible to determine the precise date of Christ's
crucifiction? Many scholars have addressed the subject and several
possible dates have been proposed.
Astronomer Sten Odenwald has also addressed the issue. Based on
contemporary political and religious information, biblical
writings, and a lunar eclipse he has determined the most likely
date of the crucifiction to be Friday, April 3, 33 AD. His
analysis is interesting and can be found on-line at
http://itss.raytheon.com/cafe/qadir/q867.html. For more
astronomical information see Dr. Odenwald's "Astronomy Cafe" page
at http://itss.raytheon.com/cafe/.
As far as Christian holidays go, Easter is the only whose
commemoration is done in the spirit of the 14th verse of the first
chapter of Genesis.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 13:48:37 (EST)
My two cents are:
Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 13:40:47 (EST)
My two cents are:
So, it was Peter Arnett who lost Vietnam to the commies. I suspected it all along.
patriot
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 13:40:11 (EST)
My two cents are:
When you think about it, there's probably nobody who sees the big picture in Pete's brain. Well, maybe one or two guys, but they're permanently cathetered and strapped to gurneys, and the drugs rob them of the ability to explain it to persons less blessed.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 13:37:12 (EST)
My two cents are:
They paved paradise and put up a parking lot.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 13:31:09 (EST)
My two cents are:
Something about Joni Mitchell not being able to see the big picture. Unlike Pete. I guess.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 13:28:46 (EST)
My two cents are:
You know, Pete makes a lot of sense. Or at least I assume he would if it were possible to understand his gibberish.
patriot
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 13:15:19 (EST)
My two cents are:
Joni Mitchell is a staunch supporter of the dark sky movement, so she is the near-antithesis of a liberal. Pete, did you hear that Wayne Newton and Yanni are giving a free concert on the Mall when Baghdad surrenders? There are a few perks to living in a blue state!
Glimpse
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 13:13:23 (EST)
My two cents are:
Anyone who might listen to Joni Mitchel for her political views should paint with mud. Joni is a poet/musician. In that vein alone, she is worthy of a listen. These people ahve no idea of the big picture politically, although they of course have the right to speak, and then be shouted down as liberal traitors. If they still want to sign and sell their music, more power to them. I think you traitors call it "compartmentalizing"? Ha! It is called incongruity, but we all know what you tirds are good for. So we take the good artsy fartsy sh*t and you can keep the leftover political insanity. Picka nd choose, that's the best way to coexist with liberal traitors who are not yet prosecuted.
Pete�
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 13:10:23 (EST)
My two cents are:
The Viet Cong Admiration Society Retreats
April 2, 2003
HISTORIAN PAUL JOHNSON refers to the American left's behavior during the Vietnam War as "America's suicide attempt." The firing of NBC reporter Peter Arnett this week proves the nation has fully recovered. Now we don't have to wait 20 years for a history book to tell us that Walter Cronkite lied about the Viet Cong's Tet offensive being a smashing success. The sedition lobby can't compete with the truth available in the new media.
As American servicemen swept through Iraq, securing oil fields, rescuing POWs, risking their own lives to protect Iraqi civilians, Peter Arnett went on Iraqi television � the propaganda arm of the enemy � to proclaim that the Americans' "war plan has failed."
Though U.S. forces were in shambles, Arnett cheerfully reported, the Iraqi regime was in good shape. He rambled on and on about "the determination of the Iraqi forces, the determination of the government, and the willingness to fight for their country."
Arnett also bragged about the demoralizing effect his reporting was having back home: "Our reports about civilian casualties here, about the resistance of the Iraqi forces, are going back to the United States. It helps those who oppose the war when you challenge the policy to develop their arguments."
Any journalist who boasted that his reports were helping demoralize the enemy the way Arnett was boasting that his reports were demoralizing his own country would be brought before the Columbia School of Journalism on ethics charges. What journalists mean by "objectivity" is: relentlessly attacking your own country while engaging in mindless boosterism of the enemy. At least now we know.
With three U.S. journalists missing and believed kidnapped by the Iraqis, Arnett praised the way the Iraqi regime treats journalists: "I've met unfailing courtesy and cooperation, courtesy from your people and cooperation from the Ministry of Information." The Italian government treated Ezra Pound pretty well, too.
Days before Arnett's boffo appearance on Iraqi television, he was on NBC's "Today" show, saying how well American and British POWs were being treated. At that point, videos of the POWs had been posted on the Drudge Report. Across the globe, anyone with a modem could see that POWs had been shot execution-style, their pants pulled down and their corpses defiled. Yet Arnett assured viewers that "President Saddam Hussein had personally ordered that these prisoners be treated well. ... Saddam wants them given the best medicine and the best food."
Arnett's most comical promotion of enemy propaganda came during the first Gulf War in 1991. The Iraqis claimed a chemical weapons factory bombed by the Americans was an infant-milk factory. To prove it, they produced scores of workers with uniforms stamped with "BABY MILK FACTORY" � written in English. Arnett somberly reported that the United States had bombed a baby-milk factory, remarking that the factory "had been producing 20 tons of powdered milk a day and was the only source of infant formula food for children 1 year and younger in Iraq."
As usual, Arnett went the extra mile, adding his own credibility to the preposterous "milk factory" story, saying the plant "looked innocent enough, from what I could see." When pressed by a CNN anchor quoting a U.S. military spokesman who said the plant had been heavily guarded and was "associated with biological warfare production," Arnett insisted that the plant had only one guard at the gate when he arrived and that workers were "bringing out a cart full of powdered milk."
Arnett's report on the "milk factory" was such a joke that the New York Times later tried to cover for him with an extraordinary rendition of the facts. William Prochnau wrote an article in the Times magazine stating: "Arnett, never a sucker for anyone's official line, had gone to great pains to point out (slipping it by the censor at his elbow) that the factory's 'baby milk' signs were printed in English."
Alas, the facts did not fit the Times' Herculean defense of their boy. Weeks after his report, Arnett gave an interview to Newsweek magazine in which he was still doggedly insisting that the plant was a baby-formula factory. "I think that was a mistaken bombing ... I think the U.S. just miscalled it. ... There was no doubt in my mind that it was unlikely to be a supersecret facility ... I just cannot conceive [of their having] the limited kind of security that they had if it was such a secret installation."
Arnett even had an innocent (and incoherent) explanation for the English-language signs, which, he said, "seemed to make sense to me." So much for � as the New York Times put it � Arnett not being "a sucker for anyone's official line." (Arnett's original report for CNN is not available on Lexis-Nexis. But in dozens of accounts of his notorious broadcast, only in the Times' account is it Arnett who points out that the signs were in English.)
In response to Arnett's most recent foray into enemy propaganda, the Times was again doing defense work for a traitor. Walter Cronkite praised Arnett on the op-ed page for "his knowledgeable dispatches" � simply ignoring that every "fact" reported by Arnett on his Iraqi broadcast was demonstrably false.
Amazingly, Cronkite also claimed that it was "conceivable" that Arnett's warm relationship with the enemy was "of some value to our own military." Only when reporters act as tools of the enemy's propaganda do we hear about the great help they are giving the U.S. military. Normally, journalists denounce such services to their country as a violation of their famed "objectivity."
Thirty years ago, Arnett would have won a Pulitzer Prize for his seditious performance in Iraq � as he did for similarly accurate reporting on the Vietnam War. NBC initially tried to stand by him, but the reaction of the American people was too strong this time. The sedition lobby had a good long run, but their ascendancy is over.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 13:04:39 (EST)
My two cents are:
I prefer to think of it as a world of imagination and cruel wit. A poetical world, dontcha know.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 13:01:55 (EST)
My two cents are:
Joni Mitchell = Liberal Traitor
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 12:59:47 (EST)
My two cents are:
21:56 is simply more proof that liebrals live in a world of make-believe. Anyway, did anyone else watch that Joni Mitchell special on PBS alst night. Pretty good show.
Pete�
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 12:45:44 (EST)
My two cents are:
TRAITOR: Senator John F. Kerry said yesterday that President Bush committed a ''breach of trust'' in the eyes of many United Nations members by going to war with Iraq, creating a diplomatic chasm that will not be bridged as long as Bush remains in office.
''What we need now is not just a regime change in Saddam Hussein and Iraq, but we need a regime change in the United States,'' Kerry said in a speech at the Peterborough Town Library.
this socialsit mutherfuckin traitor will go down in flames like saddam. <Maybe he got his "Irish" up about Bush. Ha!>
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 12:42:25 (EST)
My two cents are:
Overcompensation? Like the Penthouse Pets?
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 11:26:32 (EST)
My two cents are:
The Stooges are kind of a guy thing and Pete is desparate to be thought of as a guy.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 11:25:07 (EST)
My two cents are:
Gosh, remember the Three Stooges. Geesh, but those were the good old days. And FUN-EEEE?
Pete�
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 11:05:04 (EST)
My two cents are:
What about the New York Times? When a famous NASCAR driver dies, the New York Times doesn't put it on the front page. Or they do, but they don't want to. It's all the fault of the New York Times. And that Jap, Minetta.
Ann Coulter
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 11:03:25 (EST)
My two cents are:
Carter. It's all Carter's fault. And Bing. Bing is somewhere near the bottom of this too.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 11:01:42 (EST)
My two cents are:
Trust but verify. Unless of course Snippy says Saddam is out to get us. In that case, just trust. If Clinton said the same thing, do not trust. It can get a little confusing, this trust but verify bullshit.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 10:38:40 (EST)
My two cents are:
Now the limeys are stabbing Cheney in the back, complaining that they should get some of the billions worth of reconstruction contracts to be paid off with the Iraqi people's resources, as is only just. I mean, they're the ones getting the roads and the buildings and the new marketplaces and hospitals to replace the bombed ones. What makes the Brits feel they deserve a place at this trough? All they've done in the whole bruhahah is screw around in Basra and bitch about our Warthog cowboys. Get real, limeys, you are SO Old Europe.
Anonymous.
- Thursday, April 03, 2003 at 09:40:14 (EST)
My two cents are:
"I'll be judge, I'll be jury," Said cunning old Fury: "I'll try the whole cause, and condemn you to death."
Rumdum motto
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 23:38:18 (EST)
My two cents are:
"Trust but verify...." It has sort of a poetic, stupid ring to it, doesn't it? Sort of like "build it and they will come." Moronic and wrong, to be sure, yet there is a certain dopey poetry there.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 23:23:56 (EST)
My two cents are:
Finally, the Syrians. Those characters have always been the biggest supporter of terrorism in the Middle East. Always. Yet Bush has licked their anus for two and a half years now. Do you suppose they have something on him? Films of those fraternity gang-rapes and coke parties? What gives.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 23:20:19 (EST)
My two cents are:
Jordanian king slams 'invasion' of Iraq
April 3 2003, 4:07 AM
Jordan's King Abdullah II today described for the first time the US-British-Australian attacks on neighbouring Iraq as an "invasion" and said his country had persistently refused to open its airspace to the coalition.
Abdullah, in an interview with the official Petra news agency, also expressed his "pain and sadness" over civilian war casualties in Iraq, whom he described as "martyrs".
"Frankly speaking, we were asked to open our airspace to military aircraft but we steadfastly refused," the king told the director of Petra, who was asking him to comment on reports that coalition planes used Jordan to attack Iraq.
"Jordan is not and will never be a launchpad for strikes on brethren in Iraq and if our airspace was being used for that purpose we would not have allowed civil aviation to use it and would have closed it like other countries have," he said.
Jordanian airspace has remained open since the start of the war on Iraq on March 20.
The king also strongly denied press reports alleging that US troops could deploy through Jordan to attack Iraq after Turkey denied them passage, saying: "This was never proposed to us and we would never allow it".
And he likewise dismissed as "shameful" reports suggesting that Israeli troops were deployed in Jordan as part of the war effort on Iraq.
Twice in the interview Abdullah referred to the "invasion" of Iraq by the coalition forces, insisting on his opposition to the war and to any new leadership imposed by external forces on Baghdad.
"We have used all our contacts with influential countries across the world in order to avert this day in which we see brethren Iraq facing an invasion and all the pain it carries for the innocents," the king said.
"The Iraqi people have the right to chose their leadership and because we believe in democracy ... we cannot imagine that any people will agree to a leadership imposed on them from the outside, against their will," he said.
Abdullah also said he shared his people's anguish at seeing "on television screens the rise in the number of Iraqi civilian and innocent martyrs" killed in the war.
"We strongly denounce the killing of women and children ... and as a father I feel the pain of each Iraqi family, and each Iraqi child and father," he said.
"We are one with our people who reject and condemn the invasion," he said.
ABDULLAH IS TOO LIBERAL
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 23:03:08 (EST)
My two cents are:
U.S. FORCES BLOW UP IRAQI PIPELINE TO SYRIA
ABU DHABI [MENL] -- U.S. special operations forces are said to have blown up an Iraqi pipeline that delivered more than 200,000 barrels of oil a day to Syria.
The Kuwaiti Al Rai Al Aam daily reported on Wednesday that U.S. forces sabotaged the Iraqi oil pipeline to Syria last week in an operation in northwestern Iraq. The newspaper quoted U.S. sources as saying the forces also blew up a railroad link between Iraq and Syria.
Until the start of the U.S.-led war against Iraq, Syria obtained 250,000 barrels of oil per day through two pipelines that stemmed from the northern Iraqi city of Kirkuk. One pipeline reached the Syrian port of Banyas for export. The other provided oil directly to the Syrian national energy grid.
The U.S. sources said the destruction of the main pipeline came amid a warning by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld for a halt to Syrian military supplies to the regime of Iraqi President Saddam Hussein. The newspaper reported that on Monday the pumping station on the Iraqi side of the pipeline had broken down.
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PUNISHMENT FOR EVIL SYRIANS
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 22:59:05 (EST)
My two cents are:
Pete can't post a definition any more than Glit can. Liberal is a mystic concept to these rubes, akin to vibration at the end of the universe. Or maybe it's just that the troglodyte necessity of lying and pretending to believe lies makes it hard for troglodyte rank and file to understand connections between words and reality. Fellas, you could simplify things by just assuming that liberal is whatever gets Annie Coulter's panties in a bunch. Make it easy on your poor, overheated noggins.
patriot
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 22:58:17 (EST)
My two cents are:
I'm a bit confused by the lying definitions in the dictionaries. Can Pete, the real, code-bearing Pete, please post the real definition from the real dictionary? Thanking you in advance, I am
liberal, maybe, depending on definition
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 22:50:52 (EST)
My two cents are:
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- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 22:47:06 (EST)
My two cents are:
Liar! You do too care about the code. You wish you had a code like me and Glint ahve a code. But you will never ahve a code and you can't deal with that. Doinkerz!
Pete�
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 22:01:17 (EST)
My two cents are:
You two butt-buddies need to humor us. We don't give a shit about the code except for the entertainment value your love for it provides. It's really keen that you two can tell if it's the real Pete or the real Glint, but the rest of us just don't care. We post as Glint or Pete when we think of something one of you might say or some extension of something you did say. It makes us laugh and it's not important to us that it's not coded. The intent is not to deceive either one of you (not that we could because of your code.) The intent is to amuse us. You guys are funny and silly and foolish. The more we can get of you, the better. Whether it's the "real" you or not.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 21:56:00 (EST)
My two cents are:
Pete did indeed post a code. It was transparent because of the cloaking device. I would have used it here, except it overheats and takes a while to cool down. Roger, over and out.
Glint
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 21:47:47 (EST)
My two cents are:
Pretty sly, Pete. Posting without the code.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 21:13:17 (EST)
My two cents are:
Lay that real defintion on me, dude!
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 21:12:42 (EST)
My two cents are:
Code thing. Is that what makes the little hour glass appear, page freeze so you can't scroll?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 21:12:03 (EST)
My two cents are:
The opposition to the war is all only about liberal (yes the real definition, not the lies) socialsitic demonrat politics. End of Story.
Pete�
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 20:59:59 (EST)
My two cents are:
No, the code dosn't spew liberal lies. We know I have not been ehre since 13:42:48. There are only three formats: (00), (01) and (11). You tirdz will never get them. Never! Too stoopid!
Pete�
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 20:58:59 (EST)
My two cents are:
Babies that, if left to live, could be molded into perfectly useful teen-age transvestites.
Glint
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 20:47:07 (EST)
My two cents are:
Oh, and they like to kill babies.
Glint
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 20:44:44 (EST)
My two cents are:
The liberals hate God, cheer at the deaths of our troops and are near-antithetical to any dictionary definition of "liberal." There, I said it!
Glint
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 20:41:59 (EST)
My two cents are:
Ramadan, a topsy-turvy religious holiday.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 20:40:41 (EST)
My two cents are:
Why do the liberals hate God? Why why why?
Glint
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 20:37:03 (EST)
My two cents are:
I'm proud to say that I'm the man who floats the turd in the Ramadan punch-bowl.
James Merritt, head of the Southern Baptist convention
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 20:35:26 (EST)
My two cents are:
Southern Baptists rule, man.
Christer Joe
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 20:33:21 (EST)
My two cents are:
Duh. Can you spell Southern Baptist Convention?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 20:32:11 (EST)
My two cents are:
When you get right down to it, it doesn't seem that James Merritt, the head of the Southern Baptist convention, is one of the brightest peas in the pod.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 20:31:27 (EST)
My two cents are:
I pray at the f*cking Eastern Orthodox turkeys all twelve days of Christmas.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 20:29:39 (EST)
My two cents are:
What pisses me off is these animists whose holy days are random-- just when they have enough palm wine to get drunk and grovel at the bowl of goat blood. Hard to pray at them on their religious days if you don't know when those days are.
Holy Baptist
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 20:28:12 (EST)
My two cents are:
Hannuka is the best time to pray at the Jew.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 20:25:24 (EST)
My two cents are:
I always pray at the Chink on Chinese New Year's.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 20:24:56 (EST)
My two cents are:
Hey, I have a great idea! At the end of the Muslim holy period of Ramadan, right when they have the big mutton-roast, let's all get together and pray for them to convert to Christianity! Come on, Gang, on your knees!
you won't feel so happy when they pray at you on Christmas
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 20:24:07 (EST)
My two cents are:
Weak-ass and stupid. You can write all the foul sh1t you want and the fvcker won't catch it if you outfox the bestard.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 20:15:13 (EST)
My two cents are:
If you ask me, a God that can't even forcibly convert Muslims away from Allah is a pretty weak-ass God. But then we don't understand His works, do we?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 20:10:21 (EST)
My two cents are:
Praying to convert Muslims sounds like conversion to you? It's either Aliceland or the famous God-warp of the Nebraska Rube.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 20:09:18 (EST)
My two cents are:
Sounds like baptist-kebob to me.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 20:04:58 (EST)
My two cents are:
The head of one of the largest Christian churches in the United States has called for its members to give special prayers at the end of Ramadan with the aim of converting Muslims to Christianity.
James Merritt, the head of the Southern Baptist convention which has nearly 16m members, said Baptists needed to act in order to share the gospel.
The Convention is calling on Baptists to pray for Muslims on Sunday.
sounds like conversion to me but what do I know, I'm in aliceland
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 20:02:56 (EST)
My two cents are:
I don't know. Muslim or not, it's pretty hard for anyone to resist the call to Jesus when you place snakes in his hands.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 19:55:37 (EST)
My two cents are:
Muslims don't convert. Nobody knows that better than the Baptists. They don't waste a nickel trying to convert Arabs or any other Muslim. They go after the Catholics and the pagans.
traveler
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 19:29:27 (EST)
My two cents are:
I'm sure they'll be met with open arms by the liberated masses.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 19:24:27 (EST)
My two cents are:
The Coulter Plan?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 19:22:02 (EST)
My two cents are:
What, Baptists have plans to invade Iraq after the war to convert all the heathens? Baptists should be kept at the bottom of the Pandora Box.
with the lid nailed shut
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 19:21:17 (EST)
My two cents are:
It's when they don't use the code and ream eachother out that I find fascinating.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 19:07:22 (EST)
My two cents are:
Something to do with (03).
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 18:59:08 (EST)
My two cents are:
(01) is a little closer with Glint than (02). They had a falling out.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 18:58:35 (EST)
My two cents are:
Dueling codes.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 18:57:33 (EST)
My two cents are:
No, it's not.
(02)
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 18:57:15 (EST)
My two cents are:
It's fake.
(01)
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 18:56:51 (EST)
My two cents are:
B*llsh*t it's fake! I just forgot to add the code! Don't believe him, Pete! I just forgot to add the code!
Glint
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 18:55:27 (EST)
My two cents are:
Easy, RNC. The Democrats fought one of those Democrat wars against Hitler, so of course we still like him. Just don't like him while the asshole-in-the-street voter is listening.
Rove
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 18:53:37 (EST)
My two cents are:
Pete, if you're a little confused about 18:48:14, don't be. It's fake. Treat it as a fake post without the code. Don't ignore it like a real post with non-alphas. Roger?
Grommet
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 18:53:10 (EST)
My two cents are:
I thought we were FOR Hitler! Is this a new plank in the platform? Why doesn't anyone tell me these things?
RNC
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 18:52:01 (EST)
My two cents are:
Yeah. Liberals are like, you know, Al Gore. And Hitler. And the French. And those guys in the South American terror universities...
Pete�
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 18:50:17 (EST)
My two cents are:
I just wish people wouldn't post stuff from the dictionary! It's so wrong it makes me want to scream!
Glint
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 18:48:14 (EST)
My two cents are:
Listen, the secret code makes Glint and the whiner feel better about themselves. Can't we let them have that? The dynamic duo is going through a tough week, here, and everybody keeps throwing their bats out of the park. Ease up, and let a little equanimity trickle down on the lads.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 18:45:47 (EST)
My two cents are:
Not many people do.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 18:43:46 (EST)
My two cents are:
Is the Battle for Baghdad in the bagh yet? I don't get FOX.
patriot
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 18:42:42 (EST)
My two cents are:
Give me a little room... My most cherished dumb concepts are being challenged here and it's BORING! Stand back, I need air.
Glimpse Faintly
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 18:42:03 (EST)
My two cents are:
I love how the Glit and Pineapple find the need for a secret code so they can tell which of the other's posts is real. Sort of says something, doesn't it?
Captain Parody
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 18:41:31 (EST)
My two cents are:
I'm stunned to learn that all the dictionaries are wrong.
Glot
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 18:40:12 (EST)
My two cents are:
I thought a liberal was someone who likes neegars!
Glint
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 18:39:23 (EST)
My two cents are:
Geesh! Liberal is what I thought I thought all along but was too stupid to think! Where do I sign up?
Pete�
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 18:38:09 (EST)
My two cents are:
I though laissez-faire self-regulating markets was when a Secretary of Defense with no business experience is hired as the CEO of an outfit that lives on DOD contracts, or when a President's friends get together and buy a baseball team for a President's son!
Gloot
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 18:36:50 (EST)
My two cents are:
I thought laisseq-faire self-regulating markets was when the American Medical Association squawks about socialism or when the Pest Control Guild sits on the Pest Control Licensing Board!
Yepe�
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 18:35:11 (EST)
My two cents are:
It's the laissez-faire and self-regulating markets that reams my pineapples! I thought that giving special deals over the transom to Enron in exchange for "contributions" was what laissez-fair self-regulating markets were about!
Pete�
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 18:32:09 (EST)
My two cents are:
Dictionary Options Tips
Definition of liberal
1. [n] a person who favors a political philosophy of progress and reform and the protection of civil liberties. More...
2. [a] showing or characterized by broad-mindedness. More...
3. [a] having political or social views favoring reform and progress. More...
4. [a] tolerant of change; not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or tradition. More...
5. [a] given or giving freely. More...
6. [n] a person who favors an economic theory of laissez-faire and self-regulating markets. More...
7. [a] not literal. More...
Keep them dictionaries coming!
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 18:29:36 (EST)
My two cents are:
Seems a shame that Glit and the crybaby have wasted all that effort trying to be almost antithetical to something they can't define. Just think where they'd be if they'd tried to be the opposite of something that really exists, like the rube.
Unexamined life? Unexamined essential vocabulary.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 18:27:24 (EST)
My two cents are:
I can't define liberal, but I know what it is when I see it.
Almost Antithetical Troglodyte
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 18:23:43 (EST)
My two cents are:
OK, I'll bite. What IS the meaning of liberal? (just providing something "almost antithetical" to what the dictionary mistakenly says doesn't count.)
Almost Antithetical Liberal
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 18:22:39 (EST)
My two cents are:
Surely God looks with loving kindness, tender mercies on those who use symbols instead of letters when typing certain words.
true warriors
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 18:22:11 (EST)
My two cents are:
Pete, that was (01) if you ignore the non-alphas.
Glint
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 16:55:21 (EST)
My two cents are:
I ♥ little t1ts up shields.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 16:54:11 (EST)
My two cents are:
Yes, it's too fu<king bad the Liberals are liberal in name only.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 16:49:26 (EST)
My two cents are:
Why wonder about what Liberal is? You're simply posting the dictionary definition of liberal. But the meaning of Liberal is entirely different, almost antithetical to the definitions posted below. (01)
Glint
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 16:27:34 (EST)
My two cents are:
But it's BORING! Where are the "crispy critters?" Where are the women with dicks? Where are the pictures and the cheat sheets?
Glint
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 16:23:52 (EST)
My two cents are:
Someone with a little more on the ball than Glint would start wondering what liberal really means right about now. But I'm not suggesting anything here! Wishing the pig shit out of a rube wouldn't be any nicer than wishing death on your soldiers.
student of the rube
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 16:22:09 (EST)
My two cents are:
BORING...
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 16:21:29 (EST)
My two cents are:
Gwersh, why's them leebruls want our soldiers to die? It jest don't seem bighearted, bounteous, bountiful, freehanded, handsome, giving, or openhanded.
Glint
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 16:19:22 (EST)
My two cents are:
Antonyms of adj liberal:
5 senses of liberal
Sense 1
narrow-minded, narrow -- (lacking tolerance or flexibility or breadth of view; ``a brilliant but narrow-minded judge"; "narrow opinions'' )
Sense 2:
liberal -- (having political or social views favoring reform and progress)
INDIRECT (VIA left, center) -> right -- (of or belonging to the political or intellectual right)
Sense 3:
(resistant to change)
blimpish -- (pompously ultraconservative and nationalistic)
buttoned-up -- (conservative in professional manner; ``employers are looking for buttoned-up types'' )
fusty, standpat(postnominal), unprogressive, nonprogressive -- (old-fashioned and out of date)
hidebound, traditionalist -- (stubbornly conservative and narrow-minded)
ultraconservative -- (extremely conservative)
Sense 4:
stingy, ungenerous -- (not generous; ``she practices economy without being stingy"; "an ungenerous response to the appeal for funds'' )
We ain't no liberals in Nee-brasky
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 16:14:18 (EST)
My two cents are:
Hyponyms of noun liberal
1 of 2 senses of liberal
Sense 1
liberal, progressive -- (a person who favors a political philosophy of progress and reform and the protection of civil liberties)
latitudinarian -- (a person who is broad-minded and tolerant (especially in standards of religious belief and conduct))
neoliberal -- (a liberal who subscribes to neoliberalism)
pluralist -- (someone who believes that distinct ethnic or cultural or religious groups can exist together in society)
Whig -- (urged social reform in 19th century England)
Hyponym? Wha...?
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 16:07:52 (EST)
My two cents are:
Antonyms of noun liberal:
1 of 2 senses of liberal
Sense 1
liberal, progressive -- (a person who favors a political philosophy of progress and reform and the protection of civil liberties) Antonym of conservative (Sense 1)
conservative, conservativist -- (a person who has conservative ideas or opinions)
in other words, a goober
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 16:06:39 (EST)
My two cents are:
Overview of adj liberal:
The adj liberal has 5 senses (first 4 from tagged texts)
1. (6) broad, liberal, tolerant -- (showing or characterized by broad-mindedness; ``a broad political stance"; "generous and broad sympathies"; "a liberal newspaper"; "tolerant of his opponent's opinions'' )
2. (4) liberal -- (having political or social views favoring reform and progress)
3. (3) liberal -- (tolerant of change; not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or tradition)
4. (3) big, bighearted, bounteous, bountiful, freehanded, handsome, giving, liberal, openhanded -- (given or giving freely; ``was a big tipper"; "the bounteous goodness of God"; "bountiful compliments"; "a freehanded host"; "a handsome allowance"; "Saturday's child is loving and giving"; "a liberal backer of the arts"; "a munificent gift"; "her fond and openhanded grandfather'' )
5. free, loose, liberal -- (not literal; ``a loose interpretation of what she had been told"; "a free translation of the poem'' )
Gesh! Sounds just like Rush Limbaugh!
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 16:04:38 (EST)
My two cents are:
Overview of noun liberal:
The noun liberal has 2 senses (first 2 from tagged texts)
1. (27) liberal, progressive -- (a person who favors a political philosophy of progress and reform and the protection of civil liberties)
2. (1) liberal -- (a person who favors an economic theory of laissez-faire and self-regulating markets)
markets?
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 16:03:20 (EST)
My two cents are:
Still, I gots to know... why do the liberals want our soldiers to die? Please....
Glint
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 16:00:15 (EST)
My two cents are:
Glint is not "dumb" so much as he is "ignorant", "bigoted", "dogmatic", "muddle-headed", and "rube."
Caption Diction
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 15:58:42 (EST)
My two cents are:
On the other hand, one needs to consider that Glint is simply a nasty, jealous, selfish, malevalent shithead who hates most people.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 15:39:15 (EST)
My two cents are:
Leave it to Shemp to further bog down the page.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 15:30:21 (EST)
My two cents are:
Glint's dumb? This is too radical a concept for me to deal with. Let me sit down.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 15:26:34 (EST)
My two cents are:
"Hello"
Larry, Moe, and Curly
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 15:26:04 (EST)
My two cents are:
It's dumb to say that opposition to war automatically makes you "anti-American."
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 15:23:25 (EST)
My two cents are:
I am of the opinion that Glint is an honest rube troubled by the fact that liberals want our soldiers to die. I believe that this wishing of death on our soldiers eats at Glint's gut. I perceive in his stunned questioning an unwillingness to believe, an inability to understand, that fellow human beings, even liberal human beings, could ever be so un-groovy. It is this streak of tender soul that sets Glint apart from tough realists like Pete and Lowell Ponte. The honest rube shaken by a sudden view into the heart of darkness-- that's the way I see Glint. The glass is shattered, and the man will never so happily hop a clod as he did before his eyes were opened and his trust clubbed with the ugly truncheon of reality. An egg has been broken, but let us still hope that an omelette has been made. The egg of rube innocence has been busted to fry up the omelette of sophistication.
student of rubes
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 15:12:37 (EST)
My two cents are:
he read "Bias," by that guy who never could crack the bigtime.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 15:05:00 (EST)
My two cents are:
All of the opinions Glint expresses are his own. Except possibly the one about how Jimmy Carter sold us out to the Koreans. He found that on the sidewalk, written on a discarded gum-wrapper.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 15:04:41 (EST)
My two cents are:
You aren't much of a student of rubes, are you, student of rubes.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 15:02:28 (EST)
My two cents are:
How in the world did anyone ever get the idea that Glint gets his opinions from yahoo radio? The one about how Christians are an oppressed minority in America? Hey, say it ain't so. He thought that one up himself, didn't he? And the one about how the "media" are "liberal?" That's original, isn't it, the result of logic applied to empirical evidence?
student of rubes
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 15:00:49 (EST)
My two cents are:
Look, he's just a ghoulish, manic-depressive drama queen.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 15:00:00 (EST)
My two cents are:
So Glit figures that when someone else has opinions against, say, a war, it means he wants its proponents or pawns to die? Geesh, I thought he was just re-spouting something he heard on the radio.
Glit's been thinking for himself on this one?
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 14:58:07 (EST)
My two cents are:
Glit's problem there is that when he's against something he wants everyond involved with it to die. It's his first reaction in a disagreement, no matter how ignorant his position, no matter what depth on the goober's bench he dredged it from. It's his ol' sparky mind wrinkle. Have you ever noticed that when he's on the up cycle, when he's happy, he gleefully posts pictures of dead peopls? Let's just say that the fellow is not in the high part of the curve.
not to mention more than a little unwell
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 14:55:21 (EST)
My two cents are:
Not supporting going to war with Iraq equals wanting our soldiers to die.
sounds like limboob math
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 14:49:21 (EST)
My two cents are:
Hello? Does "Dr. Dean Edell" ring a bell?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 14:42:29 (EST)
My two cents are:
If Glit reads every word, that would explain the mood swings.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 14:42:26 (EST)
My two cents are:
I am probably not only the one person on here who saw the Three Stooges as a child, I am probably the only one who took courses on the Stooges at San Pedro and made a hobby of them and who's father was a Lt. Commander and personally involved in watching the Three Stooges with me.
Yepe�
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 14:41:05 (EST)
My two cents are:
"radio witch doctors of the Left ? " Names?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 14:40:25 (EST)
My two cents are:
Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 14:39:33 (EST)
My two cents are:
Pete thinks the Three Stooges are funny.
am I surprised or what?
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 14:38:34 (EST)
My two cents are:
Hey, no fair, I thought Glit read every word!
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 14:37:03 (EST)
My two cents are:
Don't understand jihad? Shit, we don't even understand the French fried potato.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 14:36:38 (EST)
My two cents are:
I wonder if Pete talks the way he writes.
scary thought
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 14:36:01 (EST)
My two cents are:
Armed only with his quick wit and confusing keyboard.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 14:32:27 (EST)
My two cents are:
Ah, I see the junior Lt. Commando has come back to fight again.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 14:31:10 (EST)
My two cents are:
I glanced in the middle of that mush and figured this out. Austin Powers - bad. The Siege - good. It's a movie review.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 14:22:27 (EST)
My two cents are:
Oh, unless you meant "site." Hard to tell.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 14:19:55 (EST)
My two cents are:
"Citation."
Captain Correction
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 14:19:32 (EST)
My two cents are:
"(01)and a record at that too." I don't know Pete. I got an fail alarm on that one. However, I do say Roger and how!
Glint
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 14:15:52 (EST)
My two cents are:
The culture that we have created about us celebrates ignorance more than ever. Only 48% of Americans voted in the last election. Many were influenced by the irresponsible, ratings driven, grenade throwing, radio witch doctors of the Left and Right. Other, more responsible, citizens read the rubbish posing as political analysis in McPapers across the country. Many Americans still cannot find Afghanistan on a map, this after September 11. Profits from movies like Dumb and Dumber, Austin Powers, etc. rise like the bull market of the nineties, but serious, thoughtful movies like The Siege are sunk by critics who find them too serious, too sober. We devour television shows celebrating ignorance, sophomoric foolishness and outright cruelty in a way that would make the twisted Roman Emperor Caligula blush. Our choice of leaders is no better.
Somehow we were lulled into thinking that our President�s lack of knowledge on all things foreign strengthened his leadership credentials, that his �executive� acumen might somehow ameliorate his ignorance. Thus, Greeks become Grecians and Africa becomes �just� a nation with a disease problem. We learn, to our collective astonishment, that Brazilians have blacks too and �Mexican� is actually a language. This from the president who prides himself in speaking Spanish.
He can�t even speak English. His press conferences sound like the English language rammed into a garbage compactor. His gaffes, if they were not so serious, would be laughable: on at least two occasions he�s bemoaned his life in politics, wishing he were dictator. Our strong, talented leader, however, feels �this foreign policy stuff is a little frustrating.� We feel his pain.
It must be frustrating confusing a continent with more than 40 independent nations and almost a billion people ravaged by disease, genocide and civil wars, with a nation. �These are only minor details,� we are told, �so stop quibbling, he gets the big stuff.�
We are convinced into believing that minimizing the �War on Terrorism� as a fight between �the good guys with white hats� and �the bad guys with black turbans� lends strength and decisiveness to our cause. It does no such thing. This simple, Manichean reductionism lulls us into a sense of false righteousness, that all of our actions are justified, moral and without meaningful political consequences. Nothing could be further from the truth, or more dangerous. All international violence is political in nature. We have done nothing to explore why such acts of sheer political desperation were committed against us only judging them under the microscope of our own domestic mindset: the liberty of profits, � ber-� lles. There has been little, if any, attempt to look into the sources, impulses and motives of our adversaries international conduct. �They want to destroy our way of life,� we are told. We believe it to be true, thus it must be true. There is no discussion on the nature of jihad; why there is jihad; what is jihad all about? This is not a justification for extremist terrorism--for there can be no justification for September 11 and no moral equivalency--it is only a plaintive entreaty to look more closely into the minds of our adversaries, if not for our own edification, for our own security. At a minimum, knowing the heart of our enemy can better hasten his destruction.
Alas, we trudge on in the warm, dull embrace of our ignorance without any thought of the consequences of our actions, ever forgetting that the seeds of the next conflict are sown on the fields of the current one.
The Truth Is Easy to Kill, But a Good Lie Lives Forever
LIAR BUSH
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 14:15:50 (EST)
My two cents are:
Saw Rube Goldberg's anme as a producer for the Three stooges in one of last night's 75th anniversary clips on the Three stooges. Still funny after all tehse years. But, it was a weak show. Who did "slowly I turn, step by step, inch by inch ...."
Pete�
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 13:42:48 (EST)
My two cents are:
The words Carter and "negotiate" are incongruous. Surrender and failure are synonymous with carter.
Pete�
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 13:40:56 (EST)
My two cents are:
You know what, Glint, if I were a liar socialist, it would be fabulous to delude the masses about my failed political achievements about economic suicide. I would be an idiot, but I would never admit how stupid my own beleifs were because I would never know how brainwashed I am to beleive a proven failure system is the answer. When you spend a whole life worshipping failure, you either started out as one of became one pretty quickly. [(01)and a record at that too]!
Pete�
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 13:39:04 (EST)
My two cents are:
Who thinks there is a need2know? (01)
Glint
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 13:37:29 (EST)
My two cents are:
Is this Glint character for real? Some sort of archetypal goober?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 13:35:18 (EST)
My two cents are:
Don't worry about North Korea. Merely a regional problem that the Chinaman and the Russian and the Jap could handle if the Chinaman and the Russian and the Jap would handle instead of refusing to handle. First we've got to take out Iraq and Iran and Syria, then we'll get on to regional problems.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 13:31:33 (EST)
My two cents are:
The way Glint figures it, we didn't verify whether Kim Jung Il didn't break the treaty and now we can't verify whether he did break the treaty so there's nothing to worry about. All we have to go on is what the maniac says. He probably isn't making atomic bombs now that he says he's shit-canned the treaty any more than he wasn't making them when he claimed to be honoring it.
trip into the troglodyte mind
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 13:28:31 (EST)
My two cents are:
Wouldn't the decent thing be to attribute this all to Glit's discombobulation in the face of the question of why the liberals want our soldiers to die? Give the poor rube a pass? We're lucky he didn't hurl himself out of the park instead of the bat.
be kind to rubes day
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 13:24:41 (EST)
My two cents are:
Any time now, he's going to post a picture of the Chattanooga Choo-choo as incontrovertible proof.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 13:22:18 (EST)
My two cents are:
Forget about Clark. Bing was the one behind it all.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 13:20:31 (EST)
My two cents are:
Oh yeah? Did Rush say anything about where Ramsey Clark was during all this?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 13:19:53 (EST)
My two cents are:
I think he's talking about the 1994 agreement between us and the North Koreans. Carter negotiated it as a private citizen. One of the reasons he one the Nobel Prize. That's the treaty that Bush reneged on, which Kim Joong used as an excuse to get back into the nuclear business after he found himself in the Axle of Evil. What's a matter, you don't listen to Rush?
Captain Troglodyte Knowledge
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 13:18:20 (EST)
My two cents are:
Remember the Mayaguez!
Ramsey Clark
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 13:15:08 (EST)
My two cents are:
And I notice that Ramsey Clark didn't let Carter sign that treaty until the crew of the Pueblo was safely back in San Diego!
For the Record
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 13:04:43 (EST)
My two cents are:
Eisenhower, Korea, what does it matter? Ramsey Clark was operating in the shadows the whole time.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 13:03:40 (EST)
My two cents are:
Huh? I thought it was Ikensower who bowed down to lick the Koreans' ass. Thought it was part of the platform. Geesh, which end IS up?
no rube but still confused
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 13:02:55 (EST)
My two cents are:
Sorry, Glirt, I'm preoccupied with my disgust for the infamous Carter-Korea treaty... Oh if only...
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 13:01:03 (EST)
My two cents are:
The most dangerous man in the world today is George W Bush.
"called by God"
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 12:50:05 (EST)
My two cents are:
I am now supposedly denying what, again? Can you provide a cite? I am truly interested and want to help you with your first, second, third, one two terd. (01)
Glint
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 12:47:52 (EST)
My two cents are:
Way to whack a touchdown!
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 12:44:43 (EST)
My two cents are:
Creative Personal History. Deny, deny, deny
Flea brain
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 12:43:40 (EST)
My two cents are:
"...First, when was Ramsey Clark Carter's AG?" - Anonymous@11:45:59. Second, learn to tell the real Glint from the fake ones, flea brain.
Glint
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 12:16:55 (EST)
My two cents are:
Treaties is made to be broked.
Snippy
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 12:10:21 (EST)
My two cents are:
Creative History.
Ramsey Clark, AG for Jiimy Carter
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 12:07:01 (EST)
My two cents are:
Sure, a great ballplayer will always carry his bat softly out of the park. It's the bad ones who throw them over the fences.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 12:06:13 (EST)
My two cents are:
He threw the big stick he needed to carry softly out of the park.
I see, a baseball metaphor doncha know
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 12:04:51 (EST)
My two cents are:
???
????
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 12:03:20 (EST)
My two cents are:
Oh God. Look, rube, sooner or later you've got to step up to the plate if you hope to throw the bat out of the park. Come on, weasel.
Rose Pistola
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 12:02:25 (EST)
My two cents are:
"Need to know about Korea and Carter" - 10:46:48. Carter negotiated a treaty with North Korea. All trust and no verify. He threw the big stick he needed to carry softly out of the park. I used the baseball metaphor in honor of John.
Glint
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 12:01:19 (EST)
My two cents are:
Q: Did Poppy have UN approval to take over Iraq? Does Snippy?
A: Yes. Read the resolutions.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 11:55:49 (EST)
My two cents are:
You know, somebody said right now, hundreds of American soldiers dying and being wounded in a war that was sold to Americans on a shifting desert sand of lies. As proof they offered the name of three vets killed in Nam. Their power of reasoning boggles the mind.
Alice
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 11:50:32 (EST)
My two cents are:
Thanks for the correction. I was about to ream you out.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 11:46:42 (EST)
My two cents are:
Huh? Look, rube, before we learn anything more about your resume, you need to clear up a few things. First, when was Ramsey Clark Carter's AG? Second, tell us about the Carter/Korea fiasco. Finally, in which sport are you rewarded for throwing the bat out of the park?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 11:45:59 (EST)
My two cents are:
Correction: Make that 60-70± rounds.
Glint
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 11:45:53 (EST)
My two cents are:
"I will never forget that noise as long as I live. It is a noise I never want to hear again. There was no gap between the bullets." - Lance Corporal of Horse Steven Gerrard, describing the deadly A-10 attack. Got that right. One of the production problems with the A-10 was that even a feather touch on the trigger fired off 69-70 rounds from its eight-barelled gatling gun. I used to work for the company that built the A-10 in Maryland. They used to show films of tanks getting torn to confetti in the cafeteria. The belly laughing helped the food to digest. No wonder those friendly pilots are belly aching about their filled drawers.
Glint
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 11:42:08 (EST)
My two cents are:
See, Glintster, we don't really care which Glint we respond to. Doesn't matter. The fact is, rube, you did ask why liberals were against the troops, asked it a couple of different ways, in fact. These question deserve answers, no matter which Glint is asking them at any particular point in time. Can you even begin to understand that concept?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 11:41:04 (EST)
My two cents are:
Why do the liberals want to kill our boys, anyhoo? (0X)
Glint
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 11:28:17 (EST)
My two cents are:
21:04 responded to another fake Glint, once again. (01)
Glint
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 11:25:22 (EST)
My two cents are:
Boy spent four years in college and never learned the Windsor knot. Went in wearing a clip-on and came out wearing a clip-on. The cycle of rubeism.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 11:15:25 (EST)
My two cents are:
Another of Carter's failures. He didn't break the vicious cycle of rubeism.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 11:12:58 (EST)
My two cents are:
Hard to blame Glint. He was just a boy learning about airplane glue when all that stuff was going on. I say it's a failure of a non-voucher school system. Many a rube child was left behind.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 11:11:13 (EST)
My two cents are:
Oh, yeah? Was it Ramsey Clark who invented Carter's Whip Inflation Now (WIN) campaign? What a floperoo THAT was!
For the Record
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 11:09:27 (EST)
My two cents are:
Ramsey Clark was always doing Carter's dirty work. He was Carter's Griffen Bell, in a way.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 11:07:52 (EST)
My two cents are:
And if "the coalition" still existed, I'll wager that it would follow Little Bush the same as it followed Big Bush. It's not the governments of the world that hate the bandy-legged little guy. It's the goddamn populace.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 11:04:40 (EST)
My two cents are:
Maybe Carter didn't throw any softballs to the Koreans. The point is, though, that he would have if he had been given the chance. Or his attorney general, Ramsey Clark, would have done it.
For the Record
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 11:01:31 (EST)
My two cents are:
Well, Glint DID say the "coalition" negotiated the surrender or else, not Poppy. The Glint got all cool, all Clint Eastwood, and said, "Well, else." The only problem is that "coalition" no longer exists and Snippy has taken it upon himself to "enforce UN resolutions," while telling the UN to fuck itself. It is a puzzlement.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 11:01:21 (EST)
My two cents are:
Hey, let the man lick his wounds.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 10:50:16 (EST)
My two cents are:
Come back, rube. Need to know about Korea and Carter. Also, bats being thrown out of stadiums. Thanks.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 10:46:48 (EST)
My two cents are:
What is it about the acceptability of casualties commesurate with the murder rate in an American city that these limeys don't understand?
Rummy
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 10:43:57 (EST)
My two cents are:
Bush believes he was called by God to lead the nation at this time, says Commerce Secretary Don Evans, a close friend who talks with Bush every day. His history degree from Yale makes him mindful of the importance of the moment. He knows he's making "history-changing decisions," Evans says. But Bush doesn't keep a diary or other personal record of the events that will form his legacy. Aides take notes, but there's no stenographer in most meetings, nor are they videotaped or recorded.
It's widely assumed that one reason Bush wants to rid the world of Saddam Hussein is to complete the mission his father, former president George Bush, began in 1991. The senior Bush led a coalition to eject Iraqi troops that had invaded Kuwait, but knowing that the U.N.-backed alliance was formed solely to liberate the country, he decided against going on to Baghdad to remove Saddam from power.
Two birds with one stone - Bush is crazy and Poppy didn't negotiate shit
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 10:43:53 (EST)
My two cents are:
I was ready to let some limey companies a slot at the reconstruction trough. Until these Lance Corporals of Horse started bitching about our Warthog cowboys.
patriot
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 10:40:58 (EST)
My two cents are:
What I hear, only American companies are allowed to bid on the reconstruction contracts. Companies like Bechtel, which does have its corporate headquarters in America -- even though it does its banking in the Cook Islands. I'll bet all those goddamn treasonous limeys in the House of "Commons" are going to give Tony Blair a world of shit about this, too.
patriot
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 10:36:47 (EST)
My two cents are:
Throwing the bat out of the park? See, it's stuff like that and the beard that convinces me Glint is a she-he tranny.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 10:36:30 (EST)
My two cents are:
I'm waiting to see if the rube is for real on this Carter/Korea thing. Oh, and throwing the bat out of the park. That too.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 10:34:38 (EST)
My two cents are:
Is Glint for real? Absolutely.
Creative History Major
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 10:33:37 (EST)
My two cents are:
Every time a Marine gets burned up in a Bradley it makes ME hurt.
Lithuanian Patriot
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 10:32:48 (EST)
My two cents are:
And let me tell you, it's tough carrying the load a Bulgarian has to carry in this fight.
Patriotic in Bulgaria
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 10:31:32 (EST)
My two cents are:
Hey, it was the brazen quality of his flouting that sealed my support for jumping this tar-baby.
Patriotic Bulgarian
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 10:30:40 (EST)
My two cents are:
I knew it was bad, but I didn't know his flouting had been brazen. Maybe if he hadn't been brazen about it we wouldn't be in this world of shit. Maybe we still could have worked something out. On the other hand, if he hadn't been brazen, maybe we wouldn't have picked up the Bulgarians and the Lithuanians and the Seychelle Islanders in the Coalition of the Willing.
patriot
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 10:29:25 (EST)
My two cents are:
Did Poppy have UN approval to take over Iraq? Does Snippy?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 10:15:21 (EST)
My two cents are:
Way to admit you lied, rube.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 10:14:25 (EST)
My two cents are:
"The U.N. insisted that, as a condition of his continuation as president of Iraq."
Ahh, so it was the UN! By the way, which rightwing site did you steal this from? Pretty "brazen."
Glint is a rube. For real., - Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 10:12:09 (EST)
My two cents are:
Great table, 09:43:57. What did you do, hurl last night's dinner of alphabet soup?
Glint
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 10:09:42 (EST)
My two cents are:
In 1991 the gulf war was summarily interrupted, in order to negotiate the terms of surrender with the unjust aggressor, Saddam Hussein. At the peace table, the U.N. insisted that, as a condition of his continuation as president of Iraq, Saddam Hussein must (1) disarm and (2) provide proof to the U.N. that he had disarmed, accounting with transparency for all his known weapons systems and arsenals. In particular, Saddam Hussein was ordered to destroy his stocks of mustard gas, sarin, botulin, anthrax, and other chemical and biological agents. He was also to provide proof that he had destroyed all his prior work toward the development of nuclear weapons.During the next twelve years, despite constant warnings, Saddam Hussein brazenly flouted all these obligations. In late 2002, the Security Council again solemnly put Saddam Hussein under edict to prove that he had carried out these obligations, on which his very right under international law to remain in power depended. Again, he provided no such proof thereby continuing to insult the Security Council by his performance.
Therefore, the original Gulf War never ended. It was paused in order to negotiate the terms of surrender. Hostilities have resumed because Saddam Hussein has violated those terms by refusing to divest himself of weapons of mass destruction.
Is Glint for real? Absolutely.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 10:06:50 (EST)
My two cents are:
Fever down to 100.3. Happy days are here again!
Harlan St. Wolf
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 09:51:57 (EST)
My two cents are:
Right now, hundreds of American soldiers are dying and being wounded in a
war that was sold to Americans on a shifting desert sand of lies. Most of
the men who are responsible for sending our brave young men off to die
were themselves cowards (Chickenhawks) who supported the Vietnam War, but
sent other young men to die in their places.
The top two Chickenhawks, George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, had different
excuses to explain the yellow streaks down their backs. Dick Cheney said
he was too busy to go to Vietnam. George W. Bush said he was too busy
patrolling the skies of Texas. The reality is that both of them spent most
of the Vietnam War boozing themselves up (and in George W's case indulging
in some white candy on the side).
In memory of the young men in Vietnam who died in combat so that George
and Dick could save their hides and guzzle down the booze, we are posting
this BuzzFlash editorial.
Here are the young men from Midland, Texas, (Bush's hometown) who died in
Vietnam in place of George W. Bush, as he stayed in Texas afraid to go to
war:
(1) LASTNAME: CUTBIRTH FIRSTNAME: KENDELL DWAYNE IDNO: 1912851 SVC: M
COMP: R RANK: SSG GRADE: E6 MOS: 0369 AGE: 23 HOME: MIDLAND ST: TX
CASDATE: 19670225 CAS1: A1 CAS2: G CAS3: 7 BODY: --- CTRY: VS PROV: 01
LSVC: 06 BIRDATE: 19430429 RACE: C REL: PN MAR: M SEX: M CIT: 1 TOURD:
------ PANL: 15E LINE: 089 REFNO: 2287 PDATE: 6702
(2) LASTNAME: DYER FIRSTNAME: IRBY III IDNO: 458709452 SVC: A COMP: R
RANK: SGT GRADE: E5 MOS: 91B40 AGE: 23 HOME: MIDLAND ST: TX CASDATE:
19661202 CAS1: A3 CAS2: B CAS3: 6 BODY: BNR CTRY: LA PROV: LZ LSVC: **
BIRDATE: 19430612 RACE: C REL: 99 MAR: M SEX: M CIT: 1 TOURD: 661202 PANL:
13E LINE: 004 REFNO: 133 PDATE: 6701
(3) LASTNAME: GUERRERO FIRSTNAME: ANDREW CASTRO IDNO: 449984505 SVC: A
COMP: R RANK: CPL PP: + GRADE: E3 MOS: 11B10 AGE: 19 HOME: MIDLAND ST: TX
CASDATE: 19701217 CAS1: A1 CAS2: D CAS3: 7 BODY: --- CTRY: VS PROV: 02
LSVC: ** BIRDATE: 19510516 RACE: C REL: RC MAR: S SEX: M CIT: 1 TOURD:
700619 PANL: 06W LINE: 127 REFNO: 28717 PDATE: 7012
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 09:43:57 (EST)
My two cents are:
Sounds like the coals aren't hot enough to sear the meat..
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 09:42:32 (EST)
My two cents are:
Don't have a fever. At least I don't think so, don't have a thermometer. But I do have something that makes hardened snot shale up on the larynx and come out in chewy wafers. Maybe we're just the one or two that you lose daily, the same as in any American city. An acceptable price for cutting loose from your supply lines and thrusting deep into the desert.
traveler
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 08:03:03 (EST)
My two cents are:
Why? Why? Why? Yo, I'm tearing my hair out, here!
Glint
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 07:59:27 (EST)
My two cents are:
Yes, Jessica should have some good ones to tell the lads.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 07:58:54 (EST)
My two cents are:
When Private Jessica calms down, she can tell us why Private Showanda looked like Buckwheat in a roomful of ghosts.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 07:57:14 (EST)
My two cents are:
Hey, I'm howling in the wilderness here! Why do the liberals want our soldiers to die?
Glint
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 07:55:11 (EST)
My two cents are:
Wagons... horse... cowboy... didn't we put those concepts away with Ronald Reagan's brain?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 07:54:31 (EST)
My two cents are:
So the limejuicers lose a Lance Corporal of Horse or two? You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.
warfare is my hobby
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 07:52:15 (EST)
My two cents are:
Yah, I'm sure that the cowbody warthog pilot said, "that'll be one to tell the lads..."
geesh, these limeys...
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 07:50:36 (EST)
My two cents are:
What next? Look for the Hustler spread on Private Jessica, the POW.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 07:49:26 (EST)
My two cents are:
The U.S. military came up with a solution yesterday for the penniless people of this port town begging for water: Sell it.
Despite general mayhem at distribution points - including knife fights - the Army has struck a hasty agreement with local Iraqis to expedite distribution of water to the roughly 40,000 living here.
Under the deal, the military will provide water free to locals with access to tanker trucks, who then will be allowed to sell the water for a "reasonable" fee.
"We're permitting them to charge a small fee for water," said Army Col. David Bassert.
A British military spokesman angrily objected to the water deal. The British control the city of Umm Qasr while the Americans are in charge of the port.
"We're not going to have any charging for water. What kind of an aid plan would that be? These people don't even have shoes," the spokesman said.
friendly fire, friendly water, what's next?
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 03:31:01 (EST)
My two cents are:
Wounded British soldiers condemn 'cowboy' US pilot
PA
31 March 2003
British soldiers injured when an American "tankbuster" aircraft attacked their convoy, killing one of their comrades, today complained about the "cowboy" pilot.
Troops wounded in Friday's attack accused the A-10 Thunderbolt pilot of "incompetence and negligence" while others privately called for a manslaughter prosecution.
The comments came as America's most senior military official vowed to make it his quest to stop future "friendly fire" tragedies.
General Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, apologised for the deadly error by the A-10 in southern Iraq.
He told BBC1's Breakfast With Frost: "It's the absolute saddest tragedy that any of us can experience.
"I don't think we have to live with situations like that, and one of my jobs has to be to ensure that we get the resources and the technical means to ensure that in the future this never, never happens again. And that will be my quest."
But the crews of the two British forward reconnaissance Scimitars which were attacked by the A-10 could not contain their anger.
Lance Corporal of Horse Steven Gerrard, speaking from his bed on the RFA Argus in the Gulf, said: "I can command my vehicle. I can keep it from being attacked. What I have not been trained to do is look over my shoulder to see whether an American is shooting at me."
LCoH Gerrard, the commander of the leading vehicle, described to Patrick Barkham of The Times how the deadly A-10 attack began. The pilot made two swoops.
"I will never forget that noise as long as I live. It is a noise I never want to hear again," he said.
"There was no gap between the bullets. I heard it and I froze. The next thing I knew the turret was erupting with white light everywhere, heat and smoke."
He added: "I'll never forget that A-10. He was about 50 metres off the ground. He circled, because he can turn on a 10-pence.
"He came back around. He was no more than 1,000 metres away when he started his attack run. He was about 500 metres away when he started firing."
On the back of one of the engineers' vehicles there was a Union Jack.
"It's about 18 inches wide by about 12 inches. For him to fire his weapons I believe he had to look through his magnified optics. How he could not see that Union Jack I don't know."
Packed with hundreds of rounds of ammunition, as well as grenades, rifle rounds and flammable diesel fuel tanks, the front two Scimitars exploded into flames.
One of their comrades, Lance Corporal of Horse, Matty Hull, 25, was killed.
LCoH Gerrard also criticised the A-10 for shooting when there were civilians close by.
He said: "There was a boy of about 12 years old. He was no more than 20 metres away when the Yank opened up.
"He had absolutely no regard for human life. I believe he was a cowboy. There were four or five that I noticed earlier and this one had broken off and was on his own when he attacked us. He'd just gone out on a jolly."
He added: "I'm curious about what's going to happen to the pilot.
"He's killed one of my friends and he's killed him on the second run."
Trooper Chris Finney, 18, added: "All the wagons have markings to say they are Coalition. I don't know why he shot a second time, he was that close.
"To be honest, I think they are just ignorant. I don't know if they haven't been trained or are just trigger happy."
Another of the injured, Lieutenant Alex MacEwen, 25, added: "A mistake has happened but too many things suggest it was down to pure incompetence and negligence."
Trooper Joe Woodgate, 19, the driver of the Scimitar in which gunner LCoH Hull was killed walked away with holes in his bullet-proof vest and torn clothes.
He told Audrey Gillan of The Guardian: "I don't suppose they have learned much from the first war. I can tell what an American tank looks like from every direction.
"It was the most irresponsible thing in the world. They didn't know what was going on. We were just getting on with our mission and they were messing around in the skies and saw us and said 'let's get ourselves a couple of wagons, that'll be one to tell the lads when we get back to the base'.
"How come somebody who is a top-notch Thunderbolt pilot can't tell what a British tank looks like. I think someone in the Pentagon or somewhere needs to sort something out there."
Its the Bushist fascist stupidity, stupid! <I miss peace and prosperity, a balanced budget, oh well, an actual budget surplus, and while you're at it, I miss all of our combat troops actually coming home--every manJack and woman Jill of them. Awesome, Big Dog! hoo-ah!>
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 00:27:19 (EST)
My two cents are:
Maybe Glint will come back and explain: 1. What this Carter/Korea scandal is all about, and 2. In what game is throwing the bat out of the park considered a good thing.
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 00:06:18 (EST)
My two cents are:
Once again, I utter the plaintive bleat: why do the pinkos want our soldiers to die?
Glint
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 00:05:22 (EST)
My two cents are:
Well, of course. Who do you think I am, Jimmy Carter handing melons to the Koreans?
Anonymous.
- Wednesday, April 02, 2003 at 00:02:57 (EST)
My two cents are:
You sure threw the bat out of the park on that one!
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 23:56:56 (EST)
This posting was modified by the Webmaster to protect the innocent.
My two cents are:
If you think adoption only throws the curve balls one way, consider this: how would you like to be adopted out of China, and grow up into a sudden stark realization that you were in the Rölle family? There you are, a normal human being, and all around you the people you thought were your family are shuffling back and forth carrying pods, putting them on busses and ships and airplanes, and when they see you they open their mouths and all that comes out is a hideous screech....
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 23:42:14 (EST)
My two cents are:
Can you imagine how horrified the Lt. Cmdr. and his wife must have been when the sweet drooling baby they adopted grew up and revealed itself to be Pete? Like bringing home a four-inch pot from the nursery and planting it by the door, and it turns out to be poison oak or kudzu. Can you imagine how the old lady felt when the huge cuckoo-boy lumbered up from the schoolyard whining about the day's wedgies? As a parent, it gives me the willies just to think about it.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 23:37:00 (EST)
My two cents are:
Insanity, pluck, what's the difference?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 23:28:57 (EST)
My two cents are:
Sure Pete fights but he has no weapons. I call that insanity.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 22:03:05 (EST)
My two cents are:
It could be the LSD or maybe Glint's just oblivious to what's happening.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 21:55:38 (EST)
My two cents are:
I think it's the LSD that scrambled Glint's brain.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 21:37:54 (EST)
My two cents are:
Creative history is my hobby.
Glint
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 21:33:44 (EST)
My two cents are:
Say what you will about Pete, but that man is here everyday, fighting like a rabid lunatic! Despicable and clueles thought he may be, you've got to admire his pluck.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 21:33:07 (EST)
My two cents are:
Good hobby! I'm proud of you, adopted son!
Lt. Commander
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 21:28:18 (EST)
My two cents are:
I agree wholeheartedly. If Grant had taken out Lee's railroad system, the Civil War would have been over a lot sooner.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 21:20:07 (EST)
My two cents are:
If you ask me, this war is being run all wrong. We should have taken out the rail system first. Then we should have dropped percussion bombs on their gunnery placemats, and gone in over the mud while they were bogged down in the mud.
warfare is my hobby
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 21:18:35 (EST)
My two cents are:
The three-hundred-mile undefended supply line was Rummy's idea? I thought this was Tommy Franks's war!
Yepe�
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 21:14:45 (EST)
My two cents are:
Listen, is this a great country or what? Where else can a guy like Rummy dangle a couple of divisions at the end of a three-hundred mile undefended supply line in a sandstorm? Makes you kind of proud, doesn't it?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 21:13:33 (EST)
My two cents are:
"President Bush said this Iraq situation looks like 'the rerun of a bad
movie.' Well sure, there's a Bush in the White House, the economy's going
to hell, we're going to war over oil. I've seen this movie, haven't I?" --
Jay Leno
"President Bush has said that he does not need approval from the UN to
wage war, and I'm thinking, well, hell, he didn't need the approval of the
American voters to become president, either." -- David Letterman
"In a speech earlier today President Bush said if Iraq gets rid of Saddam
Hussein, he will help the Iraqi people with food, medicine, supplies,
housing, education � anything that's needed. Isn't that amazing? He
finally comes up with a domestic agenda � and it's for Iraq. Maybe we
could bring that here if it works out." -- Jay Leno
"President Bush announced tonight that he believes in democracy and that
democracy can exist in Iraq. They can have a strong economy, they can have
a good health care plan, and they can have a free and fair voting. Iraq?
We can't even get this in Florida." -- Jay Leno
"Democrats were quick to point out that President Bush's budget creates a
1 trillion dollar deficit. The White House quickly responded with 'Hey,
look over there, it's Saddam Hussein.'" -- Craig Kilborn
"We have it. The smoking gun. The evidence. The potential weapon of mass
destruction we have been looking for as our pretext of invading Iraq.
There's just one problem -- it's in North Korea." -- Jon Stewart
"War continues in Iraq. They're calling it Operation Iraqi Freedom. They
were going to call it Operation Iraqi Liberation until they realized that
spells 'OIL.'" -- Jay Leno
"CNN said that after the war, there is a plan to divide Iraq into three
parts ... regular, premium and unleaded." -- Jay Leno
"Iraq began destroying those missiles they don't have over the weekend.
See, President Bush may be the smartest military president in history.
First, he gets Iraq to destroy all of their own weapons. Then he declares
war." -- Jay Leno
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 21:13:18 (EST)
My two cents are:
I don't want soldiers to die, yet I still support General Custer.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 21:11:29 (EST)
My two cents are:
If Government Issue was never lost, where would Glint lay out the picnic blanket?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 21:08:31 (EST)
My two cents are:
G.I. means Government Issue. No more crocodile tears for things, okay? Real people die every day in American cities and Glint gets a belly laugh out of it. Surely, he can abide the loss of some Government Issues.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 21:07:26 (EST)
My two cents are:
If Glint weren't real, the Disney organization would have invented him to fill the void.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 21:05:38 (EST)
My two cents are:
Glit, we liberals don't want our soldiers to get killed. But we do recognize the need to hurl them in howling waves against the ungodly Arab, and we do recognize that many of them must die if we are ever to have cheap oil again. What sort of timid milquetoast are you, anyway? You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs! Get with the program, boy! Grit your teeth. America has been wallowing in the Vietnam please-no-body-bags mentality for way too long. Soldiers are a weapon, goddamn it! Do you want to keep you weapon sheathed, or do you want to swing it around and kick some ass? Some will die but a lot will live. Get used to it! Let's roll!
serious student of poor rubes from Nebraska
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 21:04:20 (EST)
My two cents are:
Gee, when you put it that way, it appears that wanting our soldiers to get killed is independent of liberalism. Who would have thunk it?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 20:59:34 (EST)
My two cents are:
1. Liberal [n.] 1. City in Kansas (USA), population 16573; zip code 67901. , 2. City in Missouri (USA), population 684; zip code 64762.
2. liberal [n.] 1. A person who favors a political philosophy of progress and reform and the protection of civil liberties; progressive. , 2. A person who favors an economic theory of laissez-faire and self-regulating markets.
3. liberal [adj.] |ETYM| French , Latin , from free; perh. akin to , , it pleases, Eng. . Related to . , 1. Having political or social views favoring reform and progress. , 2. Tolerant of change; not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or tradition.
4. Liberal Party [n.] A major political party in Great Britain in the 19th century; now the third largest; advocated reforms and improvement of the conditions of working people.
5. liberalise [v.] Alternate (chiefly British) spelling of "liberalize."
6. liberalize [v.] (�� Alternate spelling: liberalise�) , To make liberal or more liberal, of laws and rules.
7. liberalism [n.] |ETYM| Cf. French . , 1. A political orientation that favors progress and reform. , 2. An economic theory advocating free competition and a self-regulating market and the gold standard.
8. liberality [n.] |ETYM| Latin : cf. French . , 1. An inclination to favor progress and individual freedom; liberalness. , 2. The trait of being generous in behavior and temperament; liberalness.
9. liberally [adv.] 1. Freely in a nonliteral manner; "he embellished his stories liberally." , 2. In a generous manner; "he gave liberally to several charities"; munificently, generously.
10. liberalisation [n.] Alternate (chiefly British) spelling for "liberalization."
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 20:56:23 (EST)
My two cents are:
Is Glint for real? His misinterpretation of history is truly awesome.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 20:55:14 (EST)
My two cents are:
That's the trouble with these modern general types. Always yapping for overwhelming force, yapping for the extra divisions, yapping for the northern force to be brought around if the Turk won't let it through. Shit, if we'd left it up to the real generals we wouldn't have three hundred miles of steaming sand and pissed-off Arabs behind the vanguard. There wouldn't be no so-called "pause."
rube afficionado
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 20:54:00 (EST)
My two cents are:
Hey, this is Tommy Franks' war now. Rummy's got other things to do.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 20:53:25 (EST)
My two cents are:
Did you see the press conference where somebody asked Rummy about the unprotected supply lines and the captured Welfare Mother/soldier/cook and he said you expect to lose a few every day, same as you lose a few in any American city? And then the chairman jumped in and said, hey, we do protect our supply lines, we're not throwing soldiers away the way Rummy says it's OK to do. This here Rummy, he's willing to pay the price, an undefended supply line here, a misdirected patriot there, a veggie market blown up over yonder. Leave it to the generals to try to take care of the troops.
serious student of rubes
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 20:51:02 (EST)
My two cents are:
Don't ask. Just stand back and take a history lesson from Cigar-Boy.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 20:47:05 (EST)
My two cents are:
Carter and the North Korea team? Did I miss something? He's not thinking about the Pueblo, is he, and mistaking Carter for Ford, the way he mistook Ramsey Clark for Griffen Bell?
serious student of rubes
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 20:44:11 (EST)
My two cents are:
Why do liberals want our soldiers to get killed?
Glint
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 20:42:40 (EST)
My two cents are:
Stability is not the issue anymore. Trust Perle and Rummy.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 20:42:01 (EST)
My two cents are:
Middle East - AP
Tobacco Shortage Makes Marines Irritable
Tue Apr 1,11:57 AM ET
By RAVI NESSMAN, Associated Press Writer
IN CENTRAL IRAQ - There is a war on, and danger lurks ahead, and the Marines of the 3rd Battalion, 7th Infantry are getting desperate � for tobacco.
It's been two weeks since they left they relative luxury of their camp in Kuwait and their supplies of cigarettes and chewing tobacco are running out. They are rationing their precious supplies, and even begging smokes from local farmers.
An army, Napoleon reputedly said, marches on its stomach. But for generations, armies have also marched on nicotine. And these Marines � smoking more than usual under the stress of battle conditions � are getting antsy.
"It just crushes morale," said Cpl. Jonathan Kibler, 22, of Lexington, Va.
Bush crushes military's morale
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 20:40:42 (EST)
My two cents are:
The last thing either Bush wants is stability in the mid-east.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 20:39:37 (EST)
My two cents are:
WASHINGTON (AdAge.com) -- The White House anti-drug office will end its controversial drugs-and-terror advertising campaign and, in a reversal, shift more of its $150 million budget toward children's media as it fights for Congress to extend the program another five years. The Office of National Drug Control Policy will also cease a polarizing $8 million annual study that found the ads aimed at youth were not working and that pitted the drug office against the Partnership for a Drug-Free America.
Youth-oriented media
Now, the office will direct 60% of its buys toward youth-oriented media -- the same percentage it had previously directed at adults -- and will focus on halting drug use among children already using rather than aim to deter youth from starting drugs. The drugs-and-terror ads will end in May.
The drugs-and-terror campaign first broke five months after the Sept. 11 attacks, with two Super Bowl ads that cost the drug office more than $3 million to run. The spots centered on the idea that people who purchase drugs help fund terrorism. One ad showed a shopping list that includes an AK-47 rifle. "Where do terrorists get their money?" said the voice-over. "If you buy drugs, some of it might come from you." Later ads replaced "terrorism" with "terror," suggesting drug buys supported drug-cartel attacks on innocent civilians.
Ogilvy & Mather controversy
The ads were controversial not only because of their message, but because of the way they were produced. While almost all White House Office of National Drug Control Policy creative comes from the Partnership, the terrorism ads were produced outside the Partnership by the drug office's agency, WPP Group's Ogilvy & Mather.
The Partnership said the ads were off-strategy and refused to do any of the spots. Partnership Vice Chairman Allen Rosenshine, chairman-CEO of Omnicom Group's BBDO Worldwide, ripped the campaign in a congressional hearing.
Spending cuts
The battle, coming to a drug office already wounded by complaints over Ogilvy's initial stewardship of the account, bolstered congressional critics who tried to cut spending dramatically. They eventually reduced it by about $25 million to about $150 million.
Legislation to continue the program is expected to soon be proposed by a bipartisan group of senators. Reps. Mark Souder, R-Ind., chairman of the Government Reform panel, and Rob Portman, R-Ohio, said last week that it would likely include language limiting the drug office's ability to go outside the Partnership for creative and also language that could require the drug office to rebid the contract won last year by Ogilvy.
money well spent
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 20:38:45 (EST)
My two cents are:
Glint's specialty is dressing like a cigar, not fact.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 20:34:45 (EST)
My two cents are:
"threw the bat out of the park." Pretty damn good at bat. Where did the ball land after the bat was thrown.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 20:34:08 (EST)
My two cents are:
No, no, Glint. It was all about limits within the UN resolution, not a "surrender" to the USA. The resolution only allowed Poppy and the "coalition" to take back Kuwait. In addition, Poppy WANTED to keep Saddam in control rather than unleash Mid-East chaos. Rube.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 20:33:13 (EST)
My two cents are:
"So that's why Bush, The Elected, didn't finish off the job. He got a promise to be good from Saddam." More than a promise. A surrender with conditions and penalties for violent penalties for non-compliance. Much unlike Carter's softball game with the North Korea's team. He stepped bravely up to the plate and threw the bat out of the park.
Glint
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 19:59:29 (EST)
My two cents are:
Curses! Foiled again! Damn code!
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 19:36:09 (EST)
My two cents are:
Well, 19:32, you really aren't Glint so how would you know?
doink�
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 19:34:48 (EST)
My two cents are:
So that really wasn't you, Pete? Damn!
Glint
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 19:32:08 (EST)
My two cents are:
"Remember when Kuwait was invaded and the coalition stopped kicking his ass if he promised to be good, or else?" No, I don't remember this little slice of history. All I remember is Bush The Bug Chaser cited two reasons for not finishing the job. First, he was adhering to the UN resolution that only gave authority to retake Kuwait. Second, it was his opinion that, without Saddam, there would be critical instability throughout the Mid-East. Little did I know that he had, in fact, exacted a commitment from Saddam Hussein to be good or else. Thank goodness the American-hating rube remembers this. Or else.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 19:31:22 (EST)
My two cents are:
No code, 19:20.
doink
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 19:23:18 (EST)
My two cents are:
I'm sorry these post-Vietnam jaded liberals have turned traitor. It is one of the most disgusting and despicable things to watch them claim some sort of moral superiority on advice just because their number got punched and they took a tour. It is as if they now have some crusty right to disseminate disgust at this country for pulling a military time card. Basicly, these are dudes who never got to make policy so their little egos feel so cool dissing those who do have the courage, stamina and intelligence to lead. Look pal, we ALL live in the cave. For every one of you who defile America anew, 5 or more do not. Love it or leave it. You aren't anything special. Other than your failed efforts to prove you are. Not. Go Away Traitors! - Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 14:14:41 (EST)
Pete� sure has a point here!
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:31:18 (EST)
Yes, he does!
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 19:22:16 (EST)
My two cents are:
Hey, Glint. Now that we boht have telescopes and the code, why don't we really start blowing their mnids by dressing the same? What do you say, buddy?
Pete�
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 19:20:57 (EST)
My two cents are:
Who helped Cheney plan this whole thing? Was it a sub-section of the Energy Policy? He shouldn't have to tell us, though. If he told us who advised him, which interest groups he invited into the government, that would have a chilling effect on interest groups' willingness to go inside the government and tell it what to do in their interests. Wouldn't it? It must be so, because that's what Honest Dick says.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 19:10:06 (EST)
My two cents are:
The United States consumes about 20 million barrels of oil a day. Eleven million of those barrels are imported, but 9 million are from domestic oil production. Oil is oil, and when events -- a war in the Middle East or an OPEC ministers' meeting in Vienna -- affect the price of oil we import from Saudi Arabia and Iraq, they have the same effect on the oil produced in the United States.
In recent months, as America has threatened and prepared for war against Iraq, the price of oil has gone from the low $20s to the high $30s a barrel. American consumers, therefore, are paying an extra $15 a barrel, or $300 million a day, or more than $100 billion a year as a "war premium" on the oil they consume. It's like a tax -- imposed as a result of government policy -- except that the government doesn't get the money. That's before the war even starts, and it is in addition to the $300 billion or so they're saying that prosecuting the war is going to cost directly. Of that $100 billion, $55 billion pays for the oil we import. But $135 million a day -- a day -- or more than $45 billion a year (minus some taxes) goes into the pockets of domestic oil producers.
"Producer" is a misleading term for people who pull oil out of the ground and sell it. "Oil extractors" would be more accurate. The oil is there, produced from leftover dinosaurs that God or nature has tossed into the recycle bin. This oil costs something to extract, but that something is less than $25 a barrel, or no one would have been extracting it before the war buildup started. So the extra $15 is a gift from Hussein and Bush.
I don't believe that Bush is prosecuting a war against Iraq in order to enrich -- or, more accurately, further enrich -- his oil-patch cronies. But we all are happier when we can make our friends happy. All this happiness among his buddies must at least make a man like Bush, who is not plagued by self-doubt or second thoughts in any event, even more confident as he marches forward.
bushonomics 101
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 19:04:56 (EST)
My two cents are:
Glint has turned to posting his favorite urban legends.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 19:04:17 (EST)
My two cents are:
Tax breaks for the rich allow them to invest in job making opportunities for people who earn a real living.
One more proven reason why demonratic sociajism is dead wrong.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 19:01:14 (EST)
My two cents are:
Geesh, that story is about a month old and completely discredited.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 19:01:06 (EST)
My two cents are:
Remember when Kuwait was invaded and the coalition stopped kicking his ass if he promised to be good, or else?
Who cuuld possibly ever forget?
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 19:00:10 (EST)
My two cents are:
NASHVILLE, Tenn. (BP)--Thousands of people knowingly infect themselves with the HIV virus each year, according to Rolling Stone magazine -- a practice commonly known as "bug chasing" and cited by those who participate in it as the ultimate form of erotic fulfillment.
Bug chasing is most commonly associated with homosexual men, Rolling Stone reports, and is propagated through a vast Internet network of websites and chat rooms where bug chasers can arrange sexual encounters with carriers of AIDS.
at elast one element of the demonrat gene pool is removing itself from circulation on a darwinian scale
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 18:59:21 (EST)
My two cents are:
Yep. It's history. You could look it up.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 18:58:02 (EST)
My two cents are:
So that's why Bush, The Elected, didn't finish off the job. He got a promise to be good from Saddam. Geesh, I forgot all about that.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 18:41:22 (EST)
My two cents are:
So that's why there's a UN?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 18:40:08 (EST)
My two cents are:
Russia obviously lied.
duh
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 18:38:25 (EST)
My two cents are:
The United Nations began life as a result of a secret meeting on board the warship "Prince of Wales" which was moored off of the coast of Newfoundland in August 1941. The United Nations came from a meeting was between F D Roosevelt and Winston Churchill. At this time America was not in World War Two though she was giving help to the Allies as a result of Lend-Lease. Roosevelt and Churchill met to discuss what shape the world might take once the war ended.
They came up with the so-called Atlantic Charter which they deemed would be governed by a body to be called the United Nations. The charter outlined the hopes of Roosevelt and Churchill for a better world. The main points to it were:
All countries should have a democratic government.
All countries would engage in trade freely with one another.
All countries would share in world prosperity.
All countries would seek to reduce their weaponry. All countries should be free of fascist tyrannies.
To achieve such laudable aims, Roosevelt and Churchill wanted to create "a wider and permanent system of general security" under the United Nations. This system was charged with enforcing the goals established by the founding leaders.
After America joined the war in December 1941, the title "United Nations" was formally adopted � at the instigation of Roosevelt � by the Allies fighting the Axis forces. The title United Nations was adopted on January 1st 1942 and was used by all those nations who were at war with the Axis. This so-called United Nations Declaration stated that all signatories agreed with the principles of the Atlantic Charter. Twenty-six nations signed it in January 1942, including Britain, America, Soviet Russia and China. These four nations were essentially a �Big Four.'
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 18:37:24 (EST)
My two cents are:
While the fighting men, women of America are doing the war thing for Snippy the administration is poised to slash $15 billion in veterans's benefits over next 10 years. So display those yellow ribbons and hold marches supporting the troops, then say nothing as education grants and disability payments are cut. Show your support for leaders who would rather give a tax break to the rich and spend billions trying to knock off Saddam rather than providing troops what is their due. Republicans in my area say, "Hey, it's a difficult situation because we're not in the black." Following Snippy's lead we could be in the red...for how long?.
female in aliceland
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 18:35:03 (EST)
My two cents are:
I don't remember what the "coalition" did, but I remember George Bush I pulling up short at the border and yapping about how the Kurds and the southern muslims should revolt. And then watching as they soaked up Rummy's nerve gas.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 17:49:59 (EST)
My two cents are:
The think that even a twig of the tree could be so ignorant, so stupid.
Lord Beeston
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 17:47:16 (EST)
My two cents are:
This doper didn't forget that the UN was originally established with the Joseph Stalin kin of slimeball tyrant regimes on the Security Council.
Captain History Doper
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 17:46:29 (EST)
My two cents are:
Certainly an interesting theory there, Pete. It would be a stroke of genius, a page right out of Weekend at Bernie's. Say that you are going to war to eliminate the threat of WMD's, when what you're really doing is freeing the Iraqi People from the scourge of dictatorship. Truly awesome and diabolically clever, if that's that case.
Glint
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 17:44:30 (EST)
My two cents are:
What's the gourd posting this Gore-on-the-Board stuff for? Knowing Glirt, he's trying to say something. But what is it?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 17:36:41 (EST)
My two cents are:
Yes, (01), as these dopers all forget, the UN was originally established to remoove this kin of slimeball tyrant regimes.
hahahahahahahahahahahaha
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 17:34:41 (EST)
My two cents are:
Keep in mind he's an astronomer, not a writer
also knows how to embed the code into a message
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 17:32:34 (EST)
My two cents are:
The battle for freedom is difficult. That is why I fight these liebral mutherfuckerz on here ever single day. You are the enemy within America and if dying to prove the truth is required, so be it.
Why, he once even took a paper cut to the left index finger for the cause!
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 17:22:43 (EST)
My two cents are:
Of course, if Gore was on the board of Microsoft, I'd feel differently about it.
Glut
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 17:20:18 (EST)
My two cents are:
It's evil dictators or disciples of Joe Stalin which threaten the planet and need extermination that leads to war.
Keep in mind he's an astronomer, not a writer.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 17:16:37 (EST)
My two cents are:
It's evil dictators or disciples of Joe Stalin which threaten the planet and need extermination that leads to war. Remember when Kuwait was invaded and the coalition stopped kicking his ass if he promised to be good, or else? Well, else. (01)
Glint
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 17:10:24 (EST)
My two cents are:
Yes, (01), as these dopers all forget, the UN was originally established to remoove this kin of slimeball tyrant regimes. Notice how virulently the treasonous liberals defend this scum, with a brief break while Cliton spanked Kosovo, as further proof that it is only and always will be only about politics for these liars. Traitors. Plain and simple.
Pete�
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 17:07:30 (EST)
My two cents are:
$450,000.
Not bad for a lying defender of the indefensible scumbag traitor liebral demonrat
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 17:02:23 (EST)
My two cents are:
SAN JOSE, Calif. (AP) -- Former Vice President Al Gore, who was elected last month to Apple Computer Inc.'s board of directors, has been granted the quintessential high-tech perk: stock options.
Gore was granted 30,000 stock options with an exercise price of $14.95, according to a regulatory filing released Monday. It's the standard compensation package for outside directors such as Gore, the company said.
Under the plan, options vest and can be exercised in three annual installments of 10,000 shares, beginning with the initial election. Gore was elected to the board March 19.
gory hypocrisy
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 17:01:30 (EST)
My two cents are:
Wrong, evil dictators or disciples of Joe Stalin who threaten the planet bring on war. (01)
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:59:24 (EST)
My two cents are:
The battle for freedom is difficult. That is why I fight these liebral mutherfuckerz on here ever single day. You are the enemy within America and if dying to prove the truth is required, so be it.
pathetic words of a chickenhawk
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:58:29 (EST)
My two cents are:
hmmmmmmmmmm......
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:54:55 (EST)
My two cents are:
Did the Liberals really expect Bush to come right out and say we're invading Iraq to topple Saddam and free the Iraqi people? Of course not. What Liberal Democrat would vote "yes" for toppling a beloved and envied dictator? He had to sugar coat it with the threat of WMD.
the truth can finally be said out loud
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:51:33 (EST)
My two cents are:
Glint isn't in it for the long haul, like Pete. Just you wait and see: Glint will get bored and start writing virtual love-letters to the neighbor children who are the objects of his perverted longings. He will post a draft of his latest star-gazing screed in the local throwaway. Once the bodies start coming in tens or hundreds, Glint will be sated and will turn away. Pete, on the other hand, will be hallucinating heroes until it is obvious even to him that the whole thing has turned to shit.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:41:55 (EST)
My two cents are:
Glint is the more repulsive of the two IMHO. I figure Pete to be just a harmless, drooling whack job. Glint is the evil one. He hates Americans more than Pete. Pete's more of the neglected puppy-dog type.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:41:37 (EST)
My two cents are:
Pete, you better write a letter to Mom. If you die "fighting" on this page, that's the only way you'll be considered heroic.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:38:26 (EST)
My two cents are:
Yes, but along with every evil stupid fat man, there is also a mediocre, mildly perverted, slightly chubby, bland, sqinch-faced television fan like Glint. The mildly perverted, slightly chubby, bland American contributes just as much as the evil stupid fat man. Don't cut Glint and his clones out of the picture. The Glints help make it all possible, too.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:37:47 (EST)
My two cents are:
It makes the death merchants fell better to think of Rincon as a hero rather than just a tragic waste.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:36:52 (EST)
My two cents are:
If Pete dies the truth will be proven?
Sounds good to me
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:35:42 (EST)
My two cents are:
Are you fighting, Pete? Hadn't noticed.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:34:37 (EST)
My two cents are:
There's a point?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:33:29 (EST)
My two cents are:
The battle for freedom is difficult. That is why I fight these liebral mutherfuckerz on here ever single day. You are the enemy within America and if dying to prove the truth is required, so be it.
Pete�
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:33:22 (EST)
My two cents are:
It makes Pete's heart swell with pride to read sappy letters to Mother by some poor kid who got blown to pieces and burned up for nothing. Talk about evil. The old banality of evil. The evil stupid fat man. Every fucking time, without fucking fail, there is an evil, stupid fat man with his fat heart swelling with pride.
patriot
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:32:27 (EST)
My two cents are:
I'm sorry these post-Vietnam jaded liberals have turned traitor. It is one of the most disgusting and despicable things to watch them claim some sort of moral superiority on advice just because their number got punched and they took a tour. It is as if they now have some crusty right to disseminate disgust at this country for pulling a military time card. Basicly, these are dudes who never got to make policy so their little egos feel so cool dissing those who do have the courage, stamina and intelligence to lead. Look pal, we ALL live in the cave. For every one of you who defile America anew, 5 or more do not. Love it or leave it. You aren't anything special. Other than your failed efforts to prove you are. Not.
Go Away Traitors!
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 14:14:41 (EST)
Pete� sure has a point here!
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:31:18 (EST)
My two cents are:
Lamers like Pete are responsible for wars?
makes sense
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:29:09 (EST)
My two cents are:
In what twisted, parallel universe is getting blown up for no good reason considered heroic? What kind of demented waterhead would even suggest such a thing?
geesh
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:27:51 (EST)
My two cents are:
You'd think an expert like Pete would know what a hero is. Pete, you don't get to be a hero just because you're standing nearby when a suicide bomber touches himself off. You got to do something, like take out Telemon Aeias or run up a hill with a pistol and a hand grenade and reduce a Kraut pillbox ("reduce" because in time of war it behooves us all to talk like we know what we're talking about, eh, Glit?) Getting blown up doesn't qualify you to be a hero, no matter how many girlish letters you wrote to Mamacita. All it qualifies you for is to be a splatter, or a splotch, or hamburger, or cannon fodder, or a guy in the wrong place at the wrong time. There are no heroes except in the minds of lamers like you, Pete, which is a good part of why we have wars.
patriot
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:27:27 (EST)
My two cents are:
At a party, you have had a little too much to drink. Elect one of the following as your designated driver:
George Bush (3) 14%;
Al Gore (5) 23%;
Pat Buchanan (1) 5%;
Ralph Nader (5) 23%;
Soupy Sales (8) 36%;
22 Total Votes
soupy sales, the wolverine, is 77
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:24:30 (EST)
My two cents are:
No need to replay anything. Once the tax cuts start working their magic, Snippy is home free.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:23:56 (EST)
My two cents are:
Glint, the phony drama queen. The rube who has given zilch. A ghoul who parties on the graves of the fallen.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:21:48 (EST)
My two cents are:
"The last word I say will be Mrs. Botsford."
Diego writing to his creative writing teacher
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:20:58 (EST)
My two cents are:
Faith in my decisions. Exactly what the suicide bomber said before he made the ultimate sacrifice for God and his cause.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:20:12 (EST)
My two cents are:
"The last word I say will by Suzie."
Diego writing to Suzie Creamcheese
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:20:08 (EST)
My two cents are:
"The last word I say will be Yolonda."
Diego Rincon writing to Yolonda Titz after finishing his letter to Mama
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:19:33 (EST)
My two cents are:
16:07:38 or 16:07:36? Which one should be "replayed?"
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:18:03 (EST)
My two cents are:
"...faith in my decisions?" What in God's sweet shit has happen to my Marine Corps? Who let this grunt greaser think he gets to make decisions?
patriot
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:17:23 (EST)
My two cents are:
Pete is confused today.
Pete 101
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:14:37 (EST)
My two cents are:
"I believe God has a path for me."
Not so fast Rincon. Snippy has a path for you too.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:13:56 (EST)
My two cents are:
No, whatever the fuck is in Boston.
stoopid!
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:13:51 (EST)
My two cents are:
The last word I gurgle will be "Mother."
dead meat
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:13:43 (EST)
My two cents are:
He died for at least the same reasons that your Cliton sent troops to Kosovo to remove Milosevic, you sick traitor. Fortunately, this cause is much greater. Much, excpet for the agenda of a liar socialsit demonrat who knows that Bush is kicking their asses politically. That is what it is all about for these liberal traitors: power at any cost.
Pete�
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:12:59 (EST)
My two cents are:
What is all this crap about "the Iraqi people?" I thought we were in this thing to stop Saddam from attacking us with "Weapons of Mass Destruction." Or were we in it because Saddam ran airplanes into the World Trade Center? Or at least it was to defend the integrity of the United Nations. Or whatever the fuck. OK, freeing the Iraqi People sounds good, Ma.
The last word I scream will be Mother, I promise, Ma.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:12:00 (EST)
My two cents are:
16:07 should be replayed during election time to prove what slime infests the demonrat party. The good news is these slime are so infected they will never know when they ahve crossed the line of no return for the real Americans they despise. Funny, really, how bad these sewer dwellers have become in their hatred for Busha nd the truth. True enemies of America. NEVER FORGET.
Pete�
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:10:45 (EST)
My two cents are:
Of course, Glint's millions of counterparts and singing about the heroism of the suicide bomber.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:10:12 (EST)
My two cents are:
He died for what again? Glint?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:09:01 (EST)
My two cents are:
Oh, Glint, that was an (01) below!
Pete�
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:08:44 (EST)
My two cents are:
Yes, it can be amazing to see actual heros like the deceased soldier Rincon. Compare and contrast with the sick defenders of the indefensible here and on CNN. I dare say, the liebrals are losing so badly after Cliton and now this war stance. All that si left is to fully and thoroughly explain the biggest Democrat lie of all: socialism. Once that happens we can drive the final nail into the coffin of these liberal thugs. America is coming to its senses. It is rejecting the lies, hypocrisy, thievery and outright treason by these scumsucking liebrals. Hallelujah!
Pete�
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:08:12 (EST)
My two cents are:
If we have many more marines as fuzzy/liberal as Diego Rincon, I fear for our chances for success in the Bush War. These guys are supposed to be trained killers, not girly-teen diary writers. Jesus H. Christ, when I was in the Marine Crotch they'd knock the Mama out of Mama's Boy before they sent a kid out. What the fuck has become of my Corps?
Simper Fye
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:07:38 (EST)
My two cents are:
He's dead. That's enough to give Glint a hard-on.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:07:36 (EST)
My two cents are:
Glint hates Americans. What does he know about "our finest?"
Rose Pistola
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:05:26 (EST)
My two cents are:
What makes Diego Rincon a True American Hero? He sounds like a scared kid to me.
patriot
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:04:19 (EST)
My two cents are:
Phony letter.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:03:42 (EST)
My two cents are:
Often, the executions have been carried out by the Fedayeen Saddam, a paramilitary group headed by Mr. Hussein's oldest son, 38-year-old Uday. These men, masked and clad in black, make the women kneel in busy city squares, along crowded sidewalks, or in neighborhood plots, then behead them with swords. The families of some victims have claimed they were innocent of any crime save that of criticizing Mr. Hussein. �John F. Burns, "How Many People Has Hussein Killed?"
New York Times, January 26, 2003
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I participated in many demonstrations against the Vietnam War, including some civil disobedience�though I was careful not to catch the eyes of the cops, sometimes a way of not getting arrested. But I could not participate in the demonstrations against the war on Iraq. As I told The New York Sun in its March 14-16 roundup of New Yorkers for and against the war:
"There was the disclosure . . . when the prisons were briefly opened of the gouging of eyes of prisoners and the raping of women in front of their husbands, from whom the torturers wanted to extract information. . . . So if people want to talk about containing [Saddam Hussein] and don't want to go in forcefully and remove him, how do they propose doing something about the horrors he is inflicting on his people who live in such fear of him?"
I did not cite "weapons of mass destruction." Nor do I believe Saddam Hussein is a direct threat to this country, any more than the creators of the mass graves in the Balkans were, or the Taliban. And as has been evident for a long time, I am no admirer of George W. Bush.
The United Nations? Did the inspectors go into the prisons and the torture chambers? Would they have, if given more time? Did they interview the Mukhabarat, Saddam's dreaded secret police?
An Iraqi in Detroit wanted to send a message to the anti-war protesters: "If you want to protest that it's not OK to send your kids to fight, that's OK. But please don't claim to speak for the Iraqis."
In The Guardian, a British paper that can hardly be characterized as conservative, there was a dispatch from Safwan, Iraq, liberated in the first days of the war: "Ajami Saadoun Khilis, whose son and brother were executed under the Saddam regime, sobbed like a child on the shoulder of The Guardian's Egyptian translator. He mopped the tears but they kept coming. 'You just arrived,' he said. 'You're late. What took you so long?' "
The United Nations? In 1994, Kofi Annan, then head of the UN's peacekeeping operations, blocked any use of UN troops in Rwanda even though he was told by his representative there that the genocide could be stopped before it started.
Bill Clinton refused to act as well, instructing the State Department not to use the word genocide because then the United States would be expected to do something. And President Clinton instructed Madeleine Albright, then our representative to the UN, to block any possible attempts to intervene despite Kofi Annan. Some 800,000 lives could have been saved.
The United Nations? Where Libya, Syria, and Sudan are on the Human Rights Commission? The UN is crucial for feeding people and trying to deal with such plagues as AIDS; but if you had been in a Hussein torture chamber, would you, even in a state of delirium, hope for rescue from the UN Security Council?
From Amnesty International, for whom human rights are not just a slogan, on Iraq: "Common methods of physical torture included electric shocks or cigarette burns to various parts of the body, pulling out fingernails, rape. . . . Two men, Zaher al-Zuhairi and Fares Kadhem Akia, reportedly had their tongues cut out for slandering the president by members of Feda'iyye Saddam, a militia created in 1994. The amputations took place in a public square in Diwaniya City, south of Baghdad."
As John Burns of The New York Times wrote in January: "History may judge that the stronger case [for an American-led invasion] . . . was the one that needed no [forbidden arms] inspectors to confirm: that Saddam Hussein, in his 23 years in power, plunged this country into a bloodbath of medieval proportions, and exported some of that terror to his neighbors."
When it appeared that Tony Blair's political career was near extinction, he gave a speech in the House of the Commons, as quoted in the March 18 issue of The Guardian:
"We must face the consequences of the actions we advocate. For me, that means all the dangers of war. But for others, opposed to this course, it means�let us be clear�that the Iraqi people, whose only true hope of liberation lies in the removal of Saddam, for them, the darkness will close back over them again; and he will be free to take his revenge upon those he must know wish him gone.
"And if this house now demands that at this moment, faced with this threat from this regime, that British troops are pulled back, that we turn away at the point of reckoning, and that is what it means�what then?
"What will Saddam feel? Strengthened beyond measure. What will the other states who tyrannise their people, the terrorists who threaten our existence, what will they take from that?. . . Who will celebrate and who will weep?"
The letters section of The New York Times is sometimes more penetrating than the editorials. A March 23 letter from Lawrence Borok: "As someone who was very active in the [anti-Vietnam War] protests, I think that the antiwar activists are totally wrong on this one. Granted, President Bush's insensitive policies in many areas dear to liberals (I am one) naturally make me suspicious of his motives. But even if he's doing it for all the wrong reasons, have they all forgotten about the Iraqi people?"
And, in the March 23 New York Times Magazine, Michael Ignatieff, a longtime human rights investigator, wrote of "14,000 'writers, academics, and other intellectuals'�many of them my friends�[who] published a petition against the war . . . condemning the Iraqi regime for its human rights violations and supporting 'efforts by the Iraqi opposition to create a democratic, multi-ethnic, and multireligious Iraq.' " But they say, he adds, that waging war at this time is "morally unacceptable."
"I wonder," Ignatieff wrote�as I also wonder�"what their support for the Iraqi opposition amounts to."
way ahead of the traitors on this one
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:03:03 (EST)
My two cents are:
Where's the poll on whether Soupy Sales can make a comeback?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:02:02 (EST)
My two cents are:
We having polls on whether certain Marines should have shot up a certain car at a certain checkpoint?
can you spell g-e-e-s-h?
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 16:01:09 (EST)
My two cents are:
Amazing letter written by one of our finest. (01)
Glint
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 15:53:34 (EST)
My two cents are:
Lame and wrong.
Fits for a Liberal
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 15:51:49 (EST)
My two cents are:
Perle...purevil Anonymous
lame but it'll stick
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 15:50:26 (EST)
My two cents are:
Text of Slain Soldier's Last Letter Home
By The Associated Press
The last letter written by Army Pfc. Diego Fernando Rincon, 19, of Conyers, Ga., to his mother. It is dated Feb. 22 and received March 22. Rincon was killed in Iraq in a suicide bombing attack Saturday:
Hola Mother,
How are you doing? Good I hope. I'm doing OK I guess. I won't be able to write anymore starting the 28th of this month. We are moving out. We are already packed and ready to move to a tactical Alpha-Alpha (in Iraq). Once that happens, there will not be any mail sent out. We will only receive mail that is less than 12 ounces. At least that's what they said. I'm not sure where exactly we're going be at yet, but it is said to be a 20-hour drive in the Bradleys.
So I guess the time has finally come for us to see what we are made of, who will crack when the stress level rises and who will be calm all the way through it. Only time will tell. We are at the peak of our training and it's time to put it to the test.
I just want to tell everybody how much you all mean to me and how much I love you all. Mother, I love you so much! I'm not going to give up! I'm living my life one day at a time, sitting here picturing home with a small tear in my eyes, spending time with my brothers who will hold my life in their hands.
I try not to think of what may happen in the future, but I can't stand seeing it in my eyes. There's going to be murders, funerals and tears rolling down everybody's eyes. But the only thing I can say is, keep my head up and try to keep the faith and pray for better days. All this will pass. I believe God has a path for me. Whether I make it or not, it's all part of the plan. It can't be changed, only completed.
Mother will be the last word I'll say. Your face will be the last picture that goes through my eyes. I'm not trying to scare you, but it's reality. The time is here to see the plan laid out. And hopefully, I'll be at home in it. I don't know what I'm talking about or why I'm writing it down. Maybe I just want someone to know what goes through my head. It's probably good not keeping it all inside.
I just hope that you're proud of what I'm doing and have faith in my decisions. I will try hard and not give up. I just want to say sorry for anything I have ever done wrong. And I'm doing it all for you mom. I love you.
P.S. Very Important Document.
Your son,
Diego Rincon
A True American Hero
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 15:43:52 (EST)
My two cents are:
Sounds like Mrs. Doubtfire is doing just that. Watch out for the flambe of ta ta.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 15:39:47 (EST)
My two cents are:
"Perle...purevil
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 14:25:35 (EST)"
and these traitors complain about Pete? Sheesh!
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 15:30:39 (EST)
My two cents are:
Damn! There goes the plan!
Al-Qaeda
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 15:30:17 (EST)
My two cents are:
Earth to Mork!
Nanoo Nanoo Doink
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 15:29:17 (EST)
My two cents are:
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Recent intelligence has the FBI worried that al-Qaida may be recruiting and training women to carry out terror attacks, trying to regain an element of surprise for a network thinned by arrests, officials say.
For the first time in the war on terror, the FBI has issued a be-on-the-lookout bulletin for a woman, a Pakistani neurological expert, wanted for questioning in connection with Osama bin Laden's terror network. Analysts also are examining claims another woman made in an Arab newspaper that she was asked by bin Laden to open training camps for female terrorists.
Female attackers, successfully used by other terror organizations such as the Palestinian Al Aqsa Martyrs' Brigade, would represent a major tactical shift for al-Qaida after years of being aligned with the Afghan Taliban regime that oppressed women and considered them unworthy to participate in an Islamic holy war, officials said.
all one needs to do is witness the treasonous terrorist liberal females on here to know this is all too apparent
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 15:24:10 (EST)
My two cents are:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/030323/168/3lley.html
true face of war
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 14:56:15 (EST)
My two cents are:
Damn civilians! What are they doing in country?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 14:47:07 (EST)
My two cents are:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/030328/170/3ngwz.html
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 14:46:27 (EST)
My two cents are:
Rescue effort for Bliss unit left 9 Marines dead, 8 missing
Diana Washington Valdez
El Paso Times
U.S. Marines were sent to rescue wounded members of the 507th Maintenance Company on March 23, the day the Fort Bliss unit was attacked in Iraq, but nine of the Marines who took part in the rescue effort were killed and eight others are missing, Pentagon officials said Sunday.
Fucking Carter!
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 14:44:39 (EST)
My two cents are:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/030329/161/3nro9.html
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 14:43:30 (EST)
My two cents are:
ROBIN WILLIAMS BLASTS BUSH
Funnyman Robin Williams has launched a scathing attack on President George W. Bush and his decision to go ahead with war on Iraq.
The "One Hour Photo" actor also criticizes what he sees as his country's mixed messages when it comes to national security.
He says, "America is broke, basically, but Bush wants to wage a war that costs pretty much a billion dollars a month.
"We have a president for whom English is a second language. He's like 'We have to get rid of dictators,' but he's pretty much one himself.
"In America, we have orange alert, but what the hell does that mean? We're supposed to be afraid of Krishna? Of orange sorbet? Then it's like, 'You can't go out and shop, it's too dangerous out there,' but if that happens then the economy falls.
"The message is so mixed: 'Be afraid, but not too afraid.'"
Blinfold and a smoke for Mork
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 14:43:10 (EST)
My two cents are:
Okay. Glint, if that last post isn't faux, it's breadth of stupidity and naivete is awesome. You are truly and ingnorant rube. What makes me think it faux, besides the statement, "Nobody's going to bomb schools and hospitals," is your assumption that "liberals" were involved. What a pigfucker you are. May your family all contact smallpox.
Rose Pistola (cowardly and spineless no more!)
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 14:39:18 (EST)
My two cents are:
It's spineless and cowardly because it's anonymous.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 14:37:07 (EST)
My two cents are:
I would pray for Bush, but I know God does not hear my prayers because of the bad things in my head.
Glint
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 14:34:29 (EST)
My two cents are:
Somebody better pray for Bush, he'll need it come Judgement Day.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 14:31:01 (EST)
My two cents are:
Bush got his taste of blood as governor of Texas.
serial killer
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 14:29:27 (EST)
My two cents are:
Wasn't speaking about smallpox, spineless. It was your your other cowardly cloaked bile. - Glint
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 14:15:00 (EST). A POST WORTHY OF THE PINEAPPLE! Now, my little rube, what's the "spineless" and "cowardly" all about? I thought it was pretty brave.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 14:28:14 (EST)
My two cents are:
Perle...purevil
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 14:25:35 (EST)
My two cents are:
"Too many law enforcement and military personnel act like "cowboys," never stopping to think about who they are and what they are called to do. I hope I am able to give them a reality check."
David Grossman
(David Grossman is a military psychologist who coined the term killology for a new interdisciplinary field: the study of the methods and psychological effects of training army recruits to circumvent their natural inhibitions to killing fellow human beings.)
www.killology.com
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 14:22:13 (EST)
My two cents are:
Glint, if that last post isn't faux, it's breadth of stupidity and naivete is awesome. You are truly and ingnorant rube. What makes me think it faux, besides the statement, "Nobody's going to bomb schools and hospitals," is your assumption that "liberals" were involved. What a pigfucker you are. May your family all contact smallpox.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 13:30:45 (EST)
What offends you, Glint. Let's rap.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 14:20:05 (EST)
My two cents are:
Julian Borger in Washington
Thursday July 13, 2000
The Guardian
The Middle East peace talks at Camp David became the subject of a political scandal in the US last night when reports emerged that one of George W Bush's foreign policy advisers had warned the Israeli delegation to be prepared to walk out of negotiations.
Richard Perle, a veteran cold war warrior and former assistant secretary of state, urged the Israeli prime minister, Ehud Barak, not to agree to any settlement which left the future status of Jerusalem unresolved, according to the New York Post website.
The website quoted a message received by Mr Barak yesterday from two of his emissaries, Yoram Ben-Ze'ev and Yossi Alpher. The two men said Mr Perle "asked us to send a clear message" to Mr Barak that it would be a "catastrophe" if the Jerusalem question was not dealt with, and urged him "to walk away" from the Camp David negotiations if faced with that outcome.
Mr Bush's office had no comment on the report yesterday. Mr Ben-Ze'ev, contacted by mobile phone, said he was in Houston, Texas - Governor Bush's home state - but would not explain the purpose of his visit and also refused to comment on the newspaper report.
Democrats responded angrily to what they portrayed as Republican meddling in the delicate negotiations currently under way at the presidential retreat at Camp David, Maryland, aimed at reaching a final settlement in the 52-year Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
"While I and all Americans are hoping and praying that the critical meeting at Camp David will be the beginning of a new era of peace for the Middle East, some are playing politics with this historic opportunity," said Sam Gejdenson, the ranking Democratic mem ber of the house committee on international relations.
Mr Gejdenson described Mr Perle's alleged intervention as "an outrage" and urged Mr Bush to disown his advisers' remarks. "In matters of life and death there is no room for politics and ego," he said.
In a further complication to the talks, entering their third day today, sources close to Yasser Arafat said he intended to summon Palestinian politicians to Camp David to discuss the next step.
Joe Lockhart, the White House spokesman, said the US mediators had not been informed of Mr Arafat's inten tions and said there was no provision in the Camp David ground rules for delegation members to come and go.
Mr Barak meanwhile offered his hosts a gift, promising to scrap the planned sale of a sophisticated airborne radar system to China. This would remove a longstanding irritant to US-Israel relations and lift a potential obstacle to increased US financial aid.
"They took into account our security concerns. We appreciate that and we welcome the decision," Mr Lockhart said.
Gadi Baltiansky, the chief Israeli spokesman at the talks, said Mr Barak had agreed to cancel the sale of the Phalcon early warning system to China at a Tuesday night meeting with President Clinton. The decision, Mr Baltiansky said, was aimed at improving the country's "intimate relations" with the US.
"Israel is right now together with the United States in the midst of an effort to achieve historic decisions relating to her vital interests," Mr Baltiansky said, explaining the background to the announcement. He said Mr Barak had "expressed sorrow" over the deal's cancellation in a letter to the Chinese president, Jiang Zemin.
Perle = traitor
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 14:18:25 (EST)
My two cents are:
Fortunately, americans are now sending a message to these people: Don't mess with us. Texas aside.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 14:16:55 (EST)
My two cents are:
Saw the Quiet American last night. Anyone know if there was any truth to the characters in that Graham Greene novel?
Pete�
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 14:15:22 (EST)
My two cents are:
Wasn't speaking about smallpox, spineless. It was your your other cowardly cloaked bile. (01)
Glint
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 14:15:00 (EST)
My two cents are:
I'm sorry these post-Vietnam jaded liberals have turned traitor. It is one of the most disgusting and despicable things to watch them claim some sort of moral superiority on advice just because their number got punched and they took a tour. It is as if they now have some crusty right to disseminate disgust at this country for pulling a military time card. Basicly, these are dudes who never got to make policy so their little egos feel so cool dissing those who do have the courage, stamina and intelligence to lead. Look pal, we ALL live in the cave. For every one of you who defile America anew, 5 or more do not. Love it or leave it. You aren't anything special. Other than your failed efforts to prove you are. Not.
Go Away Traitors!
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 14:14:41 (EST)
My two cents are:
Warning shots not withstanding.
american "trigger happy" cowboys
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 14:12:15 (EST)
My two cents are:
Tell Bush to take a number and get in line.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 14:10:52 (EST)
My two cents are:
Were U.S. troops justified in firing on a van that didn't stop at a checkpoint? //
Yes 85% 203171 votes //
No 15% 37201 votes //
Total: 240372 votes
Americans are wising up. No more BS from the anti-war crowd
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 14:10:44 (EST)
My two cents are:
Pray for the devil?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 14:09:34 (EST)
My two cents are:
WAR WATCH
Soldiers Facing Death Asked to Pray For Bush
"They may be the ones facing danger on the battlefield, but US soldiers in Iraq are being asked to pray for President George W Bush.
Thousands of marines have been given a pamphlet called "A Christian's Duty," a mini prayer book which includes a tear-out section to be mailed to the White House pledging the soldier who sends it in has been praying for Bush.
"I have committed to pray for you, your family, your staff and our troops during this time of uncertainty and tumult. May God's peace be your guide," says the pledge, according to a journalist embedded with coalition forces.
The pamphlet, produced by a group called In Touch Ministries, offers a daily prayer to be made for the US president, a born-again Christian who likes to invoke his God in speeches.
Sunday's is "Pray that the President and his advisers will seek God and his wisdom daily and not rely on their own understanding".
Monday's reads 'Pray that the President and his advisers will be strong and courageous to do what is right regardless of critics.'" --abc, 03.30.03
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 14:08:54 (EST)
My two cents are:
Richard Perle, did not serve.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 14:04:02 (EST)
My two cents are:
Ah, a student of history.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 14:00:17 (EST)
My two cents are:
Iraq War Could Be Shorter Than Gulf War
Sun Mar 30, 2:31 PM ET
By David Ljunggren
OTTAWA (Reuters) - Controversial Pentagon adviser Richard Perle said on Sunday the Iraq war could be shorter than the six-week Gulf War in 1991, predicting again the conflict could be easier than it has so far turned out to be.
"The last Gulf War involved several weeks of bombing before the first ground forces touched Iraqi soil. I don't think it will be longer than that and maybe shorter," Perle said in an interview with CBC Television.
Perle, who resigned last week as chairman of the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board over alleged conflicts of interest, is seen as a leading architect of the Bush administration's drive to topple Saddam Hussein in the face of global opposition.
An influential neoconservative voice in Washington, Perle has been criticized for underestimating the difficulty of defeating the Iraqi president.
"Support for Saddam, including within his military organization, will collapse after the first whiff of gunpowder," Perle said last July.
President Bush and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld have warned since the conflict started that the war, now in its 11th day, could be long and difficult.
Rumsfeld, a friend of Perle's, has been criticized for committing too few troops to the battle that has resulted in overstretched supply lines and attacks in the rear of the advanced U.S.-British positions.
Perle said his earlier prediction that a major U.S. force in Iraq would not be necessary was made when he thought the war would be conducted on "an entirely different strategy."
But he insisted the war would still be short. "I think it will be a quick war, certainly by historical standards," he told CBC.
He also said he did not think the number of U.S. casualties would be high.
"It's not going to be tens of thousands and I hope it's not even thousands. I hope it's not in the high hundreds but I don't know, nobody knows."
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 14:00:08 (EST)
My two cents are:
A long time ago, Britain and France were at war. During one battle, The French captured an English major. Taking the major to their headquarters, the French general began to question him. The French general asked, "Why do you English officers all wear red coats? Don't you know the red material makes you easier targets for us to shoot at?" In his bland English way, the major informed the general that the reason English officers wear red coats is so that if they are shot, the blood won't show and the men they are leading won't panic.
And that is why from that day to now all French Army officers wear brown pants
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 13:58:31 (EST)
My two cents are:
Geesh, Glint! I thought you'd appreciate the outrageousness of my wish for you family's death. You're a little touchy today.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 13:57:45 (EST)
My two cents are:
I think he defines it as "all Iraqis dead," which of course doesn't sit well with the current title of the production. But that's why he's "controversial"!
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 13:52:37 (EST)
My two cents are:
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0401-04.htm
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 13:50:40 (EST)
My two cents are:
What does Perle define the end of the war as?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 13:50:12 (EST)
My two cents are:
- Controversial Pentagon adviser Richard Perle said on Sunday the Iraq war could be shorter than the six-week Gulf War in 1991, predicting again the conflict could be easier than it has so far turned out to be.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 13:47:22 (EST)
My two cents are:
Rummied.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 13:47:04 (EST)
My two cents are:
Sure, it was easy to come up with "McNamaraed," but which way do I go with "Rumsfeld"? Leave as is, or "Rumsfelded"?
The writing half of Tom and Jerry
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 13:46:16 (EST)
My two cents are:
Yeah, this baby is all Tommy Franks' war now. Can you say, hot potato(e)?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 13:44:26 (EST)
My two cents are:
It's spineless to wish horrors on your family, Glint? How so? I think it takes great courage and I thought you would too. Choke on what?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 13:42:03 (EST)
My two cents are:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=68&ncid=68&e=1&u=/nyt/20030401/ts_nyt/rumsfeld_s_design_for_war_criticized_on_the_battlefield
"not my war" rummy
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 13:40:56 (EST)
My two cents are:
Nobody is going to bomb a power plant. Duhhhhh! Nevertheless, I'm glad I'm not in country.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 13:39:23 (EST)
My two cents are:
THREE wounded British soldiers described yesterday how they survived a terrifying attack by an American anti-tank aircraft that killed one of their troop and destroyed two armoured vehicles.
One of the survivors criticised the American pilot for showing �no regard for human life� and accused him of being a cowboy who had gone out on a jolly.
Another survivor said that he had stumbled out of the burning wreckage of his light tank and waved frantically to the pilot of the low-flying A10 to try to halt his �friendly fire� as he returned to attack again.
Before leaving the Argus they spoke of their bewilderment and anger that, despite flying very low over their heads, the A10 pilot apparently failed to recognise the coalition identification markings on their British-made tanks. Another vehicle in the five-strong convoy patrolling the marshes near the meeting of the Euphrates and Shatt al-Arab rivers bore a large Union Jack. .
Another survivor said that he had stumbled out of the burning wreckage of his light tank and waved frantically to the pilot of the low-flying A10 to try to halt his �friendly fire� as he returned to attack again.
�All this kit has been provided by the Americans. They�ve said if you put this kit on you won�t get shot,� LCoH Gerrard said from his hospital bed on the Argus. �We can identify a friendly vehicle from 1,500 metres, yet you�ve got an A10 with advanced technology and he can�t use a thermal sight to identify whether a tank is a friend or foe. It�s ridiculous.
friendly fire
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 13:39:06 (EST)
My two cents are:
Choke on it, you spineless 13:30 coward.
Glint
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 13:38:33 (EST)
My two cents are:
Good news! My HMO told me not to come in. Just hunker for a couple more days and drink lots of liquids. I feel better already!
Harl
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 13:38:12 (EST)
My two cents are:
She. Whatev.
Glint
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 13:36:32 (EST)
My two cents are:
"When the allied missile attack on Iraq started Friday, Ingrid Ternert did not budge. The Swedish math and physics teacher was among at least 12 "human shields" pledging to remain at a potential airstrike target: the Al-Douri power plant." Do you think the reason he didn't budge was because maybe there were no bombs being dropped at the power plant? Duuuuuuhhuuuuuuhhhh!
Glint
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 13:35:47 (EST)
My two cents are:
"I will not leave my brothers in Iraq alone if I am allowed to fight their American and British enemies," he said. "Many Iraqis don't fight for Saddam. They fight for their land. They want to keep their country clean from foreign occupation," Heidari said.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 13:35:13 (EST)
My two cents are:
Hey, we're "winning!"
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 13:34:40 (EST)
My two cents are:
Iran Stops Volunteers at Iraqi Border
Tue Apr 1, 2:21 AM ET
By ALI AKBAR DAREINI, Associated Press Writer
TEHRAN, Iran - Iran is preventing its citizens from crossing the border into Iraq to fight for President Saddam Hussein , saying that would violate its neutral status.
AP Photo
Latest news:
� Saudi foreign minister "clarifies" call for Saddam to quit
AFP - 6 minutes ago
� Explosions Thunder in Baghdad, Saddam Complex Hit
Reuters - 9 minutes ago
� Saddam Statement Calls for Jihad Vs. U.S.
AP - 9 minutes ago
Special Coverage
"I tried to cross the border, but military forces blocked my way," Mohammad Kanani, 23, a fruit vendor from the border Ahvaz province, said Monday. "I'm ready to sacrifice my blood to fight American and British occupiers. Courageous Saddam is standing up to them."
Iranian military officials on the border said they were under orders not to let anybody through.
"We have prevented and will prevent anybody seeking to cross the border without authorization," a military officer said, speaking on condition of anonymity.
U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has warned Iran that the United States would hold it responsible if any Iranian-sponsored forces crossed into Iraq. Iranian Foreign Minister Kamal Kharrazi said Iran was determined not to take sides in the war.
Iran is known to be ambivalent about the war. On the one hand, Tehran is eager to see the end of the regime of Saddam Hussein, whom it blames for an eight-year war with Iran in the 1980s. On the other, Iran is loathe to see another neighbor � after Afghanistan and Pakistan � fall under American influence.
However, the war in Iraq has aroused the sympathies of the Arabic-speaking people of western Iran. Many such people regard themselves as Arabs first, Iranians second. Iran's main language elsewhere is Farsi.
Pro-Saddam demonstrations were reported last week in Ahvaz and Abadan, a port city on the border with Iraq.
Abbas Heidari, an Arabic-speaking resident of Ahvaz, said he would wait for permission to cross into Iraq.
"I will not leave my brothers in Iraq alone if I am allowed to fight their American and British enemies," he said.
Heidari, a driver in his thirties, said Arabic-speaking Iranians routinely tuned in to Iraqi television, followed its news and sympathized with Iraqi war victims.
"Many Iraqis don't fight for Saddam. They fight for their land. They want to keep their country clean from foreign occupation," Heidari said.
worst is yet to come
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 13:32:46 (EST)
My two cents are:
So, we target power plants?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 13:32:40 (EST)
My two cents are:
Red double decker buses make the best targets.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 13:32:00 (EST)
My two cents are:
"In country." This is Glint, the military lingo whiz.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 13:31:48 (EST)
My two cents are:
Was the power plant on the bus too?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 13:31:21 (EST)
My two cents are:
Glint, if that last post isn't faux, it's breadth of stupidity and naivete is awesome. You are truly and ingnorant rube. What makes me think it faux, besides the statement, "Nobody's going to bomb schools and hospitals," is your assumption that "liberals" were involved. What a pigfucker you are. May your family all contact smallpox.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 13:30:45 (EST)
My two cents are:
BAGHDAD, Iraq - When the allied missile attack on Iraq started Friday, Ingrid Ternert did not budge.
The Swedish math and physics teacher was among at least 12 "human shields" pledging to remain at a potential airstrike target: the Al-Douri power plant, which was damaged in the 1991 Gulf War . Ternert said she was risking her life because Iraqi children will suffer if the plant is destroyed.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030321/ap_wo_en_ge/me_gen_iraq_human_shields_1
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 13:27:10 (EST)
My two cents are:
15 people were in a four-wheel drive Toyota and 10 were killed, including five children who appeared to be under 5. One of the wounded was a man not expected to live.
wonder if surviving relatives are now our friends, or our enemies
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 13:26:39 (EST)
My two cents are:
Why were the human shields in country? To protect what? Was it schools and hospitals? From what? Nobody's going to bomb schools and hospitals. That's not what human shields do in Iraq. They either don't know the history of human shields in Iraq or they were lying when they called themselves human shields. Too bad they were so seriously deluded but can one really expect more from the Liberal mind? (01)
Glint
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 13:24:54 (EST)
My two cents are:
Takes a real warrior to type pissing.
but rest assured he will defend his tractor
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 13:24:46 (EST)
My two cents are:
The enemy, Glint? Well, yes, I guess when you invade a sovereign nation, pre-emptively, you DO create some enemies that weren't there before. Like the Japs. They made us their enemy. Bush is today's Jap. Don't it feel grand?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 13:24:36 (EST)
My two cents are:
"You just expletive killed a family because you didn't fire a warning shot soon enough!" according to the Post. "It was the most horrible thing I've ever seen, and I hope I never see it again," Sgt. Mario Manzano, 26, a medic, told the Post.
"expletive." This is how our boys talk these days. We are so fucked!
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 13:22:10 (EST)
My two cents are:
p1ssing???
ball-less rube
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 13:20:38 (EST)
My two cents are:
Protect Saddam? Where does this asshole get his information? May your children dies horrible deaths right before you beady little eyes! Then we all can chuckle.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 13:19:59 (EST)
My two cents are:
Human shields went there to protect Saddam?
who's the idiot?
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 13:16:39 (EST)
My two cents are:
"I wouldn't poke fun at the human shields. Five children under five died in that van." Don't be such an idiot. The Iraqi propaganda minister said the shields were killed in an air attack. You're p1ssing in the wrong pot. <> Look, the shields went there to protect Saddam or die trying. Military went there to hunt and kill the enemy. If the report is true then it's missions accomplished all around!
Glint
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 13:15:02 (EST)
My two cents are:
They tried to warn the vehicle to stop; it did not stop," U.S. Marine Gen. Peter Pace told the American channel PBS television. "And it was unusual that that vehicle would be full of only women and that the driver was a woman. So we need to find out why it was that they were acting the way they did."
The military statement said 13 women and children were in the van. But The Washington Post, whose reporter is with the 3rd Infantry, said 15 people were in a four-wheel drive Toyota and 10 were killed, including five children who appeared to be under 5. One of the wounded was a man not expected to live, the Post reported on its Web site.
In its description of the shooting, the Post quoted a 3rd Infantry Division captain as saying the checkpoint crew did not fire warning shots quickly enough.
The Post described the captain watching through binoculars and ordering the soldiers by radio to fire a warning shot first and then shoot a machine-gun round into the vehicle's radiator. When the vehicle kept coming, the captain ordered, "Stop him!"
About a dozen shots of 25mm cannon fire were heard from one or more of the platoon's Bradley fighting vehicles, the Post said.
The captain then shouted over the radio at the platoon leader, "You just expletive killed a family because you didn't fire a warning shot soon enough!" according to the Post.
"It was the most horrible thing I've ever seen, and I hope I never see it again," Sgt. Mario Manzano, 26, a medic, told the Post.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 13:13:57 (EST)
My two cents are:
Mr Bush vowed not to stop until Saddam had gone.
then what?
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 13:12:42 (EST)
My two cents are:
How can Bush kill the devil ? He is the devil.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 13:10:01 (EST)
My two cents are:
eBay's PayPal Accused of Violating Patriot Act
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 13:09:04 (EST)
My two cents are:
Trying to combat deep-rooted fears that American forces may withdraw before they have toppled Saddam Hussein, and suspicions about US motives, Mr Bush vowed not to stop until Saddam had gone.
�I give this pledge to the citizens of Iraq: we are coming with a mighty force to end the reign of your oppressors,� he said. �We are coming to bring you food and medicine and a better life. We are coming and we will not stop, we will not relent, until your country is free.�.
"Huzzah! Huzzah! I've killed the Devil!" shrieks Punch in his final triumph
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 13:08:05 (EST)
My two cents are:
I wouldn't poke fun at the human shields. Five children under five died in that van. I have more respect for those that would take the blow for them, than I do for those that think this is funny.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 13:06:43 (EST)
My two cents are:
Yes, code check ok Roger.
Pete�
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 13:05:12 (EST)
My two cents are:
The code shows they aren't ringed truth at all. (01)
Glint
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 13:03:44 (EST)
My two cents are:
no need to alert one to the code the faux glint has more depth than the real mccoy
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 13:00:11 (EST)
My two cents are:
They may be fake but they ring true. Don't be ashamed of your opinions, Glint, no matter who posts them for you.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 12:59:50 (EST)
My two cents are:
I'm ashamed Bush is from America.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 12:58:50 (EST)
My two cents are:
The code failing fake posts: 12:54 & 12:52. (01)
Glint
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 12:58:23 (EST)
My two cents are:
My lawn tractor is real. My eyepieces are real, which is more than I can say for some people's eyepieces. My love for Big Red is real. My sexual perversions are real. Why do I need real war?
Glint
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 12:54:28 (EST)
My two cents are:
if it were only true (the lie is betrayed in the last line)
What a sicko.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 12:52:52 (EST)
My two cents are:
Sure, as long as my tractor survives the blast.
Glint
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 12:52:13 (EST)
My two cents are:
Heartwarming how Glit focuses in on what's important. Years from now, when he is Old Man Glit telling his great-grandchildren and the neighborhood hermaphrodites about his role in the War of Bush, they will go thinking it was about greasing human shields, and not about oil at all.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 12:51:48 (EST)
My two cents are:
Hey, Glint, wouldn't be cool if, say, a suitcase bomb was detonated in your front yard? It's one thing to watch death and destruction on the tube, but don't you hunger for something real?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 12:51:11 (EST)
My two cents are:
I'm ashamed of Bush and Texas, too. But as a good American, I wouldn't tell it to a London concert crowd. Americans abroad should keep in mind that they are each of them an ambassador, and they should speak well of the President and his home state, so long as he is Republican.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 12:49:12 (EST)
My two cents are:
Hmm, does the minister think we blasted them human pant shields accidentally? Isn't that what they're there for? (01)
Glint
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 12:44:44 (EST)
My two cents are:
A dixie chick is ashamed Bush is from Texas? Big fat deal. I'm ashamed that Texas is in the United States.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 12:43:52 (EST)
My two cents are:
I don't know about this bus-attacking strategy. Sure, we might get some human shields, but if you go indiscriminantly attacking buses you are sure to grease a bunch of Iraqi civilians and lose their hearts and minds. Our war plans depend on these guys coming out throwing kisses and fruit, so let's not piss them off by trying too hard for the human shield traitors.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 12:42:16 (EST)
My two cents are:
(3/31/03, 7 a.m. ET) -- The Dixie Chicks controversy continues with the trio getting some support from former Vice President Al Gore. Gore spoke to a college audience last week on the subject of fewer companies owning more media outlets, and what he sees as the increasing lack of tolerance for opposing views.
According to the Tennessean, Gore used recent attacks on the Dixie Chicks that followed anti-war comments by Natalie Maines as an example. Gore told the audience, "They were made to feel un-American and risked economic retaliation because of what was said. Our democracy has taken a hit," Gore said. "Our best protection is free and open debate."
Record sales have fallen for the Chicks and radio stations across the country banned the trio's music after Maines told a London concert crowd that she was "ashamed the President of the United States is from Texas." Maines later released an apology.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 12:40:31 (EST)
My two cents are:
I'm waiting for the NASDAQ to come back before I throw my support to the troops. The troops will have to earn it this time. No more mindless support for what may be the losing team, the way the Bush family and the GOP supported Hitler in 1939. There's no telling who will win a war until it's over.
patriot
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 12:38:21 (EST)
My two cents are:
"Iraq: U.S. attacked American human shields"
BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Iraq's information minister accused U.S. forces Tuesday of "indiscriminately" killing their own citizens in a bus attack.
"Yesterday, an American warplane attacked two buses on the highway between Baghdad and Ahman," Mohammed Saeed al Sahaf told reporters.
"Those people on those two buses are human shields coming to participate in defending civilian installations like water sanitation stations, electricity generation stations, and so on."
Sahaf said: "The 'brave' Americans start shooting the Americans [in the buses]. They are indiscriminately killing people."
He said Iraqis are awaiting more details on the incident., and the U.S. Central Command said it is investigating the claim.
Iraqi troops, however, are prevailing, the minister said.
if it were only true (the lie is betrayed in the last line) <yee-haw!>
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 12:37:11 (EST)
My two cents are:
What were terrorist reporters doing in the Stock Market to begin with? Where the hell is Tom Ridge? Where is Ashcroft? If this keeps up, w will win the war but lose the danged homeland.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 12:35:10 (EST)
My two cents are:
The Dow's up 14 points!
Happy Days are Here Again
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 12:34:53 (EST)
My two cents are:
We've won the Battle of Wall Street, Clyde, and that's pretty much the same as winning the war. "What people do with their money is a rather more profound barometer of how people feel than any stupid poll, much less bald assertions by New York Times reporters."
patriot
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 12:32:52 (EST)
My two cents are:
Have we won the war yet? We don't get the cable up here.
Clyde Harrington
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 12:32:03 (EST)
My two cents are:
I've adopted a wait-and-see policy. If and when the sniping and suicide attacks drop off, I will throw my support behind the war. Until then, I am taking my orders from the market. Where, I might add, an American doesn't have to rub shoulders with any reporters from Al Jazeera.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 12:30:44 (EST)
My two cents are:
Watch the money. Watch the markets. The markets will tell the tale. "What people do with their money is a rather more profound barometer of how people feel than any stupid poll, much less bald assertions by New York Times reporters."-- Ann Coulter
patriot
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 12:27:39 (EST)
My two cents are:
I myself lost faith in the integrity of FOX news when they first hired that hippie. The network has a long way to go before it redeems itself. Firing Jerry Rivers will be just a first step.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 12:26:08 (EST)
My two cents are:
Until he shaves off that Stalin moustache, he is no true soldier for FOX.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 12:24:43 (EST)
My two cents are:
As much as I'd like to support Geraldo now that he's part of the Fox News team, perhaps they ought to let him go. He's damaging their credibility.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 12:19:42 (EST)
My two cents are:
The bottom line is that once we beat these ragheads we will have the biggest army in the Middle East, unless you count the totality of Jew-rusalem. That makes me feel tough and proud, like a guy pounding Leyland cypress stakes.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 12:13:41 (EST)
My two cents are:
If only the Iraqi chiefs had been Osama, or Saudi!
Kill, kill them all, god will know his own!
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 11:59:36 (EST)
My two cents are:
Today's Top Five Headlines on BuzzFlash.com:
The Democratic Leadership Doesn't Even Have a Clue. Second Part of a BuzzFlash Editorial Series: Winning the Hearts and Minds of Americans: The Battle for Democracy in Our Homeland
British Newspaper Daily Mirror Hires Peter Arnett
The Legacy of Bush, the Man Who Loves Death Too Much: U.S. Forces Kill Seven Iraqi Women, Kids 4/1
The Bush Legacy: A Gruesome Scene on Highway 9,10 Dead After Vehicle Shelled at Checkpoint. Included Among the Dead Were Five Young Children. George W. is Sure "Liberating" Those Iraqis, Ain't He? 4/1
U.S. Casualties Could Be 'Shocking'
shock, no awe
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 11:58:17 (EST)
My two cents are:
102 degrees? Could be chagas disease. Shistosomiasis, maybe. Have you been in a malaria area? Have you been to any airports, especially one used by travellers from Hong Kong or other Asian areas? I can't narrow this down without more information.
Dr. Wang
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 11:56:22 (EST)
My two cents are:
Who is this Arnett? He sounds like a traitor, so maybe it's best I don't hear him. But I'd still like to know who the turncoat is. What does this have to do with Vietnam? Answers, please.
Clyde Harrington
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 11:54:31 (EST)
My two cents are:
"US assassins 'kill Iraqi chiefs' in Baghdad "
AMERICAN special forces have assassinated several senior Iraqi officials in a series of bomb and sniper attacks in Baghdad and other cities, it was revealed yesterday.
American government sources say that in the past week of covert operations "more than a handful" of Republican Guard commanders and Ba�ath Party officials have been killed.
The ultimate aim of the undercover squads, according to sources, is to kill Saddam Hussein�s closest associates and even the Iraqi president himself.
A source said at least some of the explosions seen and heard in Baghdad were not the result of air strikes, but bombs planted by special forces.
The operations suggest US efforts to destroy the Iraqi government�s leadership are far more extensive than previously known.
CIA officials declined to comment, but Pentagon spokeswoman Victoria Clarke said: "As we have said before, we have special forces in the north, west and south of the country."
The undercover teams carry sophisticated weapons and communications equipment capable of receiving real-time targeting intelligence to guide them to the locations of sought-after individuals and also of transmitting information about targets with similar speed.
The agents are believed to be getting help from small numbers of trusted Iraqi exiles, who have slipped back into Baghdad, and opponents of the regime in the city.
America has a policy going back more than 20 years which bans political killings, but the Bush administration has concluded that it does not prevent the president from lawfully singling out a terrorist for death by covert action.
The CIA in particular has been given the go-ahead to undertake much more risky and sensitive operations to kill enemies in the war against terror following the September 11 atrocities.
more good news missed by the viet-deja-nam nabobs
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 11:51:20 (EST)
My two cents are:
Pusbrain? Jismhead? Necrophiliac?
coaltion of the willing to buy the geek antibiotics
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 11:47:57 (EST)
My two cents are:
HOME OF THE FREE: ARNETT JOINS MIRROR Apr 1 2003
THE reporter sacked by American TV for telling the truth about the war is joining the Daily Mirror.
Veteran newsman Peter Arnett was axed by NBC yesterday accused of being a Saddam stooge. He told state-run Iraqi TV the conflict was not going to plan because of fierce resistance and said his Baghdad reports "help those who oppose war".
He joins the Mirror on the day it was revealed that 8,700 bombs have rained down on Iraq in 12 days, including 3,000 missiles over the weekend.
OUTSPOKEN: Live from Baghdad
After his sacking, Pulitzer Prize winner Arnett said: "I report the truth of what is happening here in Baghdad and will not apologise for it. I have always admired your newspaper and am proud to be working for it."
The New Zealand-born journalist was vilified across the US for an interview in which he said: "The first war plan has failed because of Iraqi resistance. Now they are trying to write another war plan. Clearly, thewar planners misjudged the determination of the Iraqi forces. In my TV commentaries I'd tell the Americans about the Iraqi forces and their willingness to fight.
"President Bush says he is concerned about the Iraqi people. But if Iraqi people are dying in numbers, then American policy will be challenged very strongly."
Arnett, 68, added that there was growing opposition about the conduct of the war.
He said: "Our reports about civilian casualties here, about the resistance of the Iraqi forces, are going back to the US. It helps those who oppose the war when you challenge the policy."
On Sunday, NBC praised the reporter for risking his life to deliver news from Baghdad.
The station said of the Iraqi TV interview: "He answered their questions out of professional courtesy. He saw it as purely analysis."
But the furious White House said Arnett spoke from "a point of complete ignorance".
They day after backing him, NBC cut him loose.
Yesterday Arnett said on NBC: "I want to apologise to the American people. It was clearly a misjudgment talking to Iraqi TV.
"I'm not anti-war. I said what we all know about this war. But I've created a firestorm and for that I'm sorry."
Asked about his future, he joked: "There's a small island in the South Pacific I'll try to swim to. I'll leave."
Arnett was one of the few TV journalists in Baghdad. He said: "The Iraqis let me stay because they see me as a fellow warrior. They know I might not agree with them. But I've got their respect."
The reporter, the first Western journalist to interview Osama bin Laden and the last to interview Saddam Hussein, was accused of peddling pro-Iraqi propaganda while covering the 1991 Gulf War.
But he gained much of his prominence for reporting the last conflict with Iraq for CNN.
His Pulitzer Prize came for reporting in Vietnam in 1966 for the Associated Press.
THIS WAR IS NOT WORKING
HOME OF THE FREE--and its not NBC
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 11:43:59 (EST)
My two cents are:
"Jordan Detains Iraqis in Alleged Sabotage Plot"
AMMAN (Reuters) - Jordan has arrested an undisclosed number of Iraqis suspected of plotting to contaminate a water tank supplying U.S. troops in the desert near the Iraqi border, Jordanian officials said on Tuesday.
"They were arrested in connection with a plot to contaminate water supplies to U.S. troops in the country," said one official who declined to be named.
Other officials identified the target as a facility supplying water to hundreds of U.S. troops at a base at Khao, close to the industrial Jordanian city of Zarqa.
should force them to take a swig
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 11:42:22 (EST)
My two cents are:
Shock and awe.
puslady
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 11:35:29 (EST)
My two cents are:
Class act, shock jock.
Greaseman
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 11:30:15 (EST)
My two cents are:
What happened, did your pus membrane break today?
Glint
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 11:29:03 (EST)
My two cents are:
Hey, I've got a fever. 102 this morning, now it's down a bit. What do you think it is?
Harlan St. Wolf
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 11:27:48 (EST)
My two cents are:
Seen them all before? You sure?
speak for yourself.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 11:26:44 (EST)
My two cents are:
Glint has only one daughter. Plus a foreigner he is training up as a love slave for his dotage. At least that's what I heard on the grapevine. Sounds about right.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 11:00:21 (EST)
My two cents are:
What are you talking about? I don't get the pix or the music. Bad browser or something. Is Glit posting pictures of his daughters? What?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 10:58:45 (EST)
My two cents are:
Which one is Glint?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 10:55:06 (EST)
My two cents are:
Which one is Poe?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 10:54:39 (EST)
My two cents are:
Man, half of them look shaved. Of course at this resolution they could simply be pussed over.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 10:51:29 (EST)
My two cents are:
You know, Glint, the pictures you love to post have either been seen before or are uninteresting. Oh, and you have the wit of an infant.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 10:51:03 (EST)
My two cents are:
THIS WAR IS NOT WORKING
Apr 1 2003
By Peter Arnett
I am still in shock and awe at being fired. There is enormous sensitivity within the US government to reports coming out from Baghdad.
They don't want credible news organisations reporting from here because it presents them with enormous problems.
I reported on the original bombing for NBC and we were half a mile away from those massive explosions. Now I am really shocked that I am no longer reporting this story for the US and awed by the fact that it actually happened.
That overnight my successful NBC reporting career was turned to ashes. And why? Because I stated the obvious to Iraqi television; that the US war timetable has fallen by the wayside.
I have made those comments to television stations around the world and now I'm making them again in the Daily Mirror.
I'm not angry. I'm not crying. But I'm also awed by this media phenomenon.
The right-wing media and politicians are looking for any opportunity to be critical of the reporters who are here, whatever their nationality. I made the misjudgment which gave them the opportunity to do so.
I gave an impromptu interview to Iraqi television feeling that after four months of interviewing hundreds of them it was only professional courtesy to give them a few comments.
That was my Waterloo - bang!
I have not yet decided what to do, whether to pack my bags and leave Baghdad or stay on.
I'll decide what to do today, right now I'm chewing on what has happened to me. But whatever happens I will never stop reporting on the truth of this war whether I am in Baghdad or somewhere else in the Middle East - or even back in Washington.
I was here in 1991 and the bombing is very similar to that conflict but the reality is very different.
The US and British want to come here, take over the city, upturn the government and take us through to a new era. The troops are in the country and fighting there way up here. It creates a very different atmosphere.
The Ba'ath party, currently led by Saddam Hussein, has been in power for 34 years. Tariq Aziz told me the US will have to brainwash 25 million Iraqis because these people think exactly the same as Saddam does.
Maybe he is wrong, maybe not.
For months, Iraqis have said officially and privately: "We will fight the Americans, we will use guerrilla tactics, we will surprise them."
But the Iraqi opposition has said: "This will be a pushover, everyone wants to rebel against Saddam."
Now the reality is being played out on the battlefield.
We have to watch the reality now and some Iraqis are fighting and the government does seem very determined. For me to see that and to be criticised for saying the obvious is unfair. But it has made me a target for my critics in the States who accuse me of giving aid and comfort to the enemy.
I don't want to give aid and comfort to the enemy - I just want to be able to tell the truth.
I came to Baghdad with my crew because the Iraqi side needs to be heard too.
It is clear the original timetable that America would be in Baghdad by the end of March has fallen by the wayside.
There is clearly debate in the US about this, reinforcements are being sent in and there are delays.
This doesn't mean it is going badly. Every casualty is a loss but they have been in limited numbers so far.
Every night and every day I hear the B-52s and the missiles hammering the defences Baghdad.
Just like in Afghanistan and Vietnam, the US is bringing enormous firepower to bear which it believes will grind the Iraqis down. I have seen it before and it has been enormously effective. The US optimism is justified.
On the other hand, at what cost to civilians ?
During the Tet Offensive in Vietnam, I entered a US-held town which had been totally destroyed.
The Viet Cong had taken over and were threatening the commander's building so he called down an artillery strike which killed many of his own men.
The Major with us asked: "How could this happen?" A soldier replied: "Sir, we had to destroy the town to save it."
The Bush and Blair administration does not want that label stuck on this war, it is a liberation for them. But the problem is US Marines at checkpoints are suspicious of every man, woman and child because of the suicide bomb.
Already there is suspicion growing.
And in the south, there have not been popular rebellions and uprisings. As the battle for Baghdad grows, the potential for civilian casualties grows. This is the spectre rising as this war continues. The US and Britain have to figure this out.
I don't think you can tell how it will end, there are many scenarios. A siege of Baghdad... a special operations strike on Saddam. Optimists in the Pentagon talk about an internal coup.
Who would have had believed Umm Qasr would hold out for six days or US Marines directing traffic would be killed by a suicide bomber? This is more like the West Bank and Gaza and it could become like that in some areas.
The US and Britain must avoid that scenario.
Forces come in, communities resist, then suicide bombing and resistance from guerrillas.
Except the Iraqis will be putting up a stiffer fight than the Palestinians because they are better armed.
We know the world, including many Americans, is ambivalent about this war and I think it is essential to be here.
I'm not here to be a superstar. I have been there in 1991 and could never be bigger than that.
Some reporters make judgements but that is not my style. I present both sides and report what I see with my own eyes.
I don't blame NBC for their decision because they came under great commercial pressure from the outside.
And I certainly don't believe the White House was responsible for my sacking.
But I want to tell the story as best as I can, which makes it so disappointing to be fired.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 10:48:41 (EST)
My two cents are:
Posted for art's sake.
had no idea there were so many 'y's in bush!
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 10:45:48 (EST)
My two cents are:
I thought those coke bottles Saddam used for glasses had a familiar look.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 10:37:06 (EST)
My two cents are:
Jim Wolf
AS SAYLIYA CAMP, Qatar (Reuters) - The United States is prepared to pay a "very high price" in terms of casualties to capture Baghdad and oust President Saddam Hussein , a senior official of the U.S. Central Command said on Monday.
"We're prepared to pay a very high price because we are not going to do anything other than ensure that this regime goes away," the official told reporters, adding that U.S. casualties in the 12-day-old war had so far been "fairly" light.
"If that means there will be a lot of casualties, then there will be a lot of casualties," said the official, who spoke on condition that he not be named.
Referring to nights in World War II "when we'd lose 1,000 people," he added: "There will come a time maybe when things are going to be much more shocking."
The official, addressing reporters at the Central Command's forward headquarters in Qatar, said the net result of reporting by correspondents with the invasion force was creating a false impression of "constant, ferocious battle."
Such reports, he said, created the impression of a much more difficult campaign than it was. "That's not what's going on out there," he added. "It's military action at places primarily of our time and choosing."
The official said there were "an awful lot of ominous signs" that Saddam had prepared his forces to use banned chemical weapons. He listed chemical detection equipment, protection suits, new masks and atropine injectors used to protect against nerve agents, all of it found on the battlefield.
"To me, as a solider, it indicates that he was preparing his troops for the possibility of chemical operations," the official said. "Will people hesitate to act on those orders? I can only say, I hope so."
The official predicted that Saddam would probably mount a "layered" defense of Baghdad, with his best-trained and best-equipped troops, the Republican Guard, arrayed on the outskirts of the city.
An inner cordon would most likely include officials of Saddam's ruling Baath party, militia and Republican Guard infantry, he added.
The official said the United States was paying a price for having failed to protect uprisings by Shi'te Muslims in Iraq 's south and Kurds in the north after a U.S.-led alliance drove Iraqi invaders from Kuwait in 1991.
"I think we bear a certain responsibility for what we didn't do in 1991 and it's playing itself out on the battlefield," he said. "I mean you let somebody down once, you don't want to let them down twice. I guess I'm being too candid." The official said the United States had underestimated the fear instilled by Saddam loyalists and the difficulty Iraqis would have in revolting until Saddam was known to be out of the picture.
"We Americans aren't very good at judging what a totalitarian regime looks like, does, acts like," he said. "I just don't think we're very good at it."
But he said he sensed anti-Saddam popular uprisings were "near" in the southern city of Basra and in Nassiriya, midway to Baghdad. "I think once the tipping point comes, it starts to spread," he said.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 10:31:21 (EST)
My two cents are:
The foe has buckled. It's all over but the mopping up.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 10:27:45 (EST)
My two cents are:
If you drop enough bombs on a country, you can beat that country.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 10:26:27 (EST)
My two cents are:
No fear. They aren't going to be building many roads in Maryland in the next lifetime or so.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 10:25:31 (EST)
My two cents are:
No cong? As long as there's no cong, we ARE winning.
yippee!
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 10:24:03 (EST)
My two cents are:
An Air Force general said bombing worked? Shet my mouf'.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 10:22:22 (EST)
My two cents are:
Glit is absolutely right, build it and they will come. That was proved by the movie where they built a ball field and Shoeless Joe Jackson and Ty Cobb crept out of the cornfield and played ball. Incontrovertable.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 10:21:04 (EST)
My two cents are:
Define "winning."
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 10:05:11 (EST)
My two cents are:
"FOE BUCKLES IN BAGHDAD"
April 1, 2003 -- U.S. warplanes inflicted some of the heaviest bombing of the war on Republican Guard and other targets in and around Baghdad last night, further battering Saddam Hussein's already weakened forces.
At least a dozen explosions rocked the capital, one striking the Iraqi Olympic Committee building downtown where Saddam's son Uday tortured athletes who performed poorly in competitions.
A palace used by Saddam's other son, Qusay, was hit for a second day, and the warplanes blasted a prison in western Iraq where Saddam's death squads had gathered.
Just across the Tigris River, another bomb struck less than a mile from the Palestine Hotel, where many foreign journalists are staying. They said the building shook as if hit by a powerful earthquake.
Maj. Gen. Stanley McChrystal told a Pentagon briefing that 3,000 precision-guided bombs were launched at Iraqi forces over the weekend - more than a third of the 8,000 unleashed since Operation Iraqi Freedom began.
The waves of bombings have caused "a very significant weakening of the forces," he said.
Some of the Republican Guard units surrounding Baghdad were at less than half-strength, with the Medina and Baghdad divisions the most severely degraded, he said.
On the ground, U.S. troops advanced into Hindiyah, a strategic city 50 miles from Baghdad, seizing stockpiled machine guns and mortars and capturing dozens of elite Republican Guard members.
"We're coming. Where the regime is, we're coming," said Brig. Gen. Vincent Brooks of the U.S. Central Command.
An armored unit of the 3rd Infantry Division entered the city - between Karbala and the ruins of ancient Babylon - at dawn and rolled toward a Euphrates River bridge that leads to Baghdad.
Iraqis hiding behind hedges and brick walls met the U.S. troops with small-arms fire and rocket-propelled grenades. The Americans returned the fire, and at least 35 Iraqi troops were killed.
The U.S. soldiers stormed the local Ba'ath Party office, seizing tons of ammunition and hundreds of weapons, including several boxes of American grenades marked "Property of the Ministry of Defense of Jordan."
Maps inside the building showed Iraqi military positions and the expected route of the U.S. attack.
President Bush said, "Day by day, we are moving closer to Baghdad. Day by day, we are moving closer to victory."
He told Iraqis, "We are coming with a mighty force to end the rule of your oppressors. We will not stop; we will not relent until your country is free."
just like vietnam, but without the jungles, the cong, and johnson; oh yeah - and we're winning.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 10:03:55 (EST)
My two cents are:
I was replying to 21:22.
Flap
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 10:02:13 (EST)
My two cents are:
The flapping jaw @22:21 made a good point. If you build it they will come. City people who want to live in the country but when the sun goes down are pants sh1tting scared of the dark. I've always said what this country needs are higher gas prices to discourage would be commuters from leaving the comfort zone of their street light. <> Saw some soldiers knocking down an Iraqi "light tower" in some footage from the front. Said Saddam's forces were using it for spreading light pollution which the spotter then used to aim the mortars. Seems like the door would swing both ways on that. <> How about the Simpson's episode on light pollution the other night? Kids liked it although they eagerly pointed out the bad science used. (01)
Glint
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 09:34:20 (EST)
My two cents are:
You sent reply to the fake Glint@20:18 stupid anony@20:49. <Chuckle>. (01)
Glint
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 09:26:31 (EST)
My two cents are:
It's not the resentment that bothers me. It's the planes flying into buildings.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 03:13:36 (EST)
My two cents are:
So, you guys invaded an Arab country to stop Arab resentment...?
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 03:13:00 (EST)
My two cents are:
What the hell does Hosni Mubarak know about it?
Rummy
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 03:11:19 (EST)
My two cents are:
As long as it's not thee or me.
depending on who thee be
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 01:51:32 (EST)
My two cents are:
Well enough alone ended on 9/11. Now it's either me or them.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 00:40:45 (EST)
My two cents are:
There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened.
some people just can't leave well enough alone
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 00:36:40 (EST)
My two cents are:
Maybe the idea is to create lots of bin Ladens and watch them trip all over eachother. Like a Chinese fire drill.
Anonymous.
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 00:17:53 (EST)
My two cents are:
Does Snippy know there could be one hundred new bin Ladens incubating?
oh rats, he's anti abortion
- Tuesday, April 01, 2003 at 00:03:08 (EST)